Everyone seems to have questions about wheel sizes, offsets, manufacturers, etc. It's also not the easiest to go through searching all the threads to try and find a snid-bit here and there of what you're looking for. So, I decided to start a thread where everyone can list their wheel brands, sizes, offsets, and anything unique about them - maybe discuss any issues or advantages, and post a pic if they have it. If you read this thread, please participate and encourage others you know to do so too. It will help everyone, especially with the more custom wheels. Thanks in advance for your participation! :2thumbs: :popcrn:
What are you running on your car? I really like the way it sits. I'm going to be replacing my wheels soon and my car is 500 miles away at the moment so I can't post my measurements.
I found this to be very helpful when no one can give me an answer: http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html
:popcrn:
The wheels you see on my car are 14X7 aluminum slotted mags. I changed them to 15's, with 10's in the back and 7's in the front. The 15X10's had 55 series 275's on them, they were really tall and filled out the wheel well. I have a poor quality shot of the car with the 15's on but there are more pics of the 14's on my rebuild thread.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,55034.0.html
What I'm looking to upgade to is 17 or 18 in Magnum 500's. Bull scored us a great deal at Specialty Wheels, but the biggest they go is 17X8's. I could live with 17's, but I'd like them to be a little wider than 8. That's my dilemma. Not sure what I'm going to do yet. :scratchchin:
I love the vexer link. I just shared that with someone last week or so. It's very helpful. :2thumbs:
Here's that other pic I mentioned...
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on October 30, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
The wheels you see on my car are 14X7 aluminum slotted mags. I changed them to 15's, with 10's in the back and 7's in the front. The 15X10's had 55 series 275's on them, they were really tall and filled out the wheel well. I have a poor quality shot of the car with the 15's on but there are more pics of the 14's on my rebuild thread.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,55034.0.html
What I'm looking to upgade to is 17 or 18 in Magnum 500's. Bull scored us a great deal at Specialty Wheels, but the biggest they go is 17X8's. I could live with 17's, but I'd like them to be a little wider than 8. That's my dilemma. Not sure what I'm going to do yet. :scratchchin:
I love the vexer link. I just shared that with someone last week or so. It's very helpful. :2thumbs:
Here's that other pic I mentioned...
I'm diggin' your 15" Slots.
I want to buy them.
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on October 30, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on October 30, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
The wheels you see on my car are 14X7 aluminum slotted mags. I changed them to 15's, with 10's in the back and 7's in the front. The 15X10's had 55 series 275's on them, they were really tall and filled out the wheel well. I have a poor quality shot of the car with the 15's on but there are more pics of the 14's on my rebuild thread.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,55034.0.html
What I'm looking to upgade to is 17 or 18 in Magnum 500's. Bull scored us a great deal at Specialty Wheels, but the biggest they go is 17X8's. I could live with 17's, but I'd like them to be a little wider than 8. That's my dilemma. Not sure what I'm going to do yet. :scratchchin:
I love the vexer link. I just shared that with someone last week or so. It's very helpful. :2thumbs:
Here's that other pic I mentioned...
I'm diggin' your 15" Slots.
I want to buy them.
love the slots :coolgleamA:
i'm running 18x9 0-offset/4.5 backspacing in front and 18x10 0-offset/ 5 backspacing in the rear.
Tires are 245/45/18's all around
The wheels are made by DPE and are the R05.
All around pretty good, but I could fit way more wheel in there.
Picture:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0209copy.jpg)
I also tried putting the 18x10's on the front(below), but they rubbed on the inside a little bit under full lock. So a couple mm of negative offset would fix that.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0160.jpg)
Quote from: METROID on October 30, 2009, 12:39:55 PM
I found this to be very helpful when no one can give me an answer: http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html
Yeah, that site is cool. :whistling:
Here's my setup, Bassett DOT rims:
F-15x7 235/60 3-5/8 bs (-0.625 offset (-5/8 inch))
R-15x8 295/50 4-1/2 bs (0 offset)
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on October 30, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
I'm diggin' your 15" Slots.
I want to buy them.
That can be arranged! I will be on new rubber and wheels come spring. They're sitting in the corner right now. Where are you located?
kcederwall08 - I love those wheels! I think I PM'ed you asking about them once. Those are the one wheel I considered over 17-18" Magnum 500's. So, you have no turning issues? No rubbing? They look AWESOME! Is that QQ1 on your 68?
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on November 01, 2009, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on October 30, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
I'm diggin' your 15" Slots.
I want to buy them.
That can be arranged! I will be on new rubber and wheels come spring. They're sitting in the corner right now. Where are you located?
I'm in Southern Illinois.
Just a little east of St. Louis :coolgleamA:
If and when this thread gets some wheels under it (ha, ha, I made a funny) I vote it gets a sticky. Toooooo many backspacing threads around here. :-\
I'll post the info on the back wheels but I don't have anything to share yet on the fronts.
My 15x8 Magnum 500 rear wheels have 4.5" backspacing with 295/50-15 Cooper Cobras and I wouldn't mind if the BS was about 4" or even 3.5" to get them closer to the lip of the wheel well. As it sits I have an inch of space between the widest part of the inside tires and the leaf springs and 1.5" between the lip on the quarter panel wheel well and the outside of the tires.
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41200.0;attach=66900)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41200.0;attach=66901)
Those Cooper 295/50/15s look good, I need to find a set of those to go on the Cragars for the back wheels on my 68. :2thumbs:
Blue68- The wheels had some rubbing issues on the inner front fender support due to the car being so low. It only rubbed a tiny bit (enough to take off the dirt from the metal), but I cut out the support on my car later on. You shouldn't have any problems as long as you aren't super low. the paint code is LL1 :)
I agree that this thread should be made into a sticky if it pans out. I'd also like to see wheel/tire info for all gens in here.
I also agree... Actually this thread should follow this thread's structure & posting rules
Here's an example from another forum I visit.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-tire-rubber-fitment-thread.html
:icon_smile_big: Awesome thread. I don't have any wheels on my 69 at the moment or I would share. This thread is certainly a big help in deciding. Seeing the wheels and tires on the car is a huge benefit. Thanks guys.
Ok, maybe it's a novice question, but I have to ask. I too would like to go from my stock 14 inch rims to a 16, or 17 inch wheel.
One thing that I would like to find out is if there is a ride quality penalty you pay for by going with a larger wheel and less tire wall.
Any one with some info out there?
Mike
Here are all the measurements I took from mine when I was ordering wheels. Obviously, I was more focused on the rears; I just took 'normal' sizes for the fronts :)
These measurements are from a '72 - I would assume it would apply equally to other 3rd gens as well.
63" width between stock hub mounting surface
74.5" confirmed safe tire outer limit (outside edge of current tires, which clear fender fine - more might be possible, not sure)
47.3" stock spring perch center-to-center
49.8" stock spring outer edge to outer edge
limiting widths: 49.8" inside, 63" mounting, 74.5" outer.
tire space: (0" - 6.6" - 12.35")
On mine, I used a doctordiff spring relocation kit - http://www.doctordiff.com/?page_id=41 - The front spring mounts are bolt-on, and the rear shackles are bolt-on. The only non-bolt-on piece is the spring perches on the rear end, which must be ground off and relocated (preferably replaced).
Here are the measurements on mine after spring relocation:
45.05" spring perch center-to-center
47.55" spring outer edge to outer edge
limiting widths: 47.55" inside, 63" mounting, 74.5" outer (with relocation kit)
tire space: (0" - 7.725" - 13.475") (with relocation kit)
I used torq thrust M 17x10.5 wheels with at +28mm offset along with a 1/4" spacer on each. They're technically intended for mustang cobras, which means they're very readily available and relatively inexpensive. A slightly lower offset, maybe something around 20-22, probably would probably have been perfect, but then you're probably talking about custom wheels. In any case, the ones I used were: http://www.streetortrack.com/Torq-Thrust-M-Black-with-Shelby-cap-17x10.5-pr-22584.html
As for tires, I found Sumitomo HTR-Z 315/35zr17 tires pretty inexpensive. In a perfect world I'd want something closer to 315/50zr17 - the sidewall on these is a little less than I like - but I couldn't find anything like that for anywhere close to a reasonable price.
In any case, probably the two single most important specs - my rear tire section width is 12.6" on an adjusted offset of around +22mm. I clear the springs by around 1", so I would definitely not go further inside, but I think I've still got some room between the fenders, so further extention outside would be possible. I wouldn't go wider than 13" section width on around a 10mm offset though. And again, this is with reloc kits, you'll need to lose an extra 1-1/8" on the inside without them.
Also, all this is based on a tire with around 26" diameter. I don't *think* there was anything that would get in the way of a slightly larger diameter, but I knew I was using this diameter anyway, so I wasn't looking closely.
For the fronts, I wasn't nearly so demanding, I just got the same rims in 8" width, 0mm offset - http://www.streetortrack.com/Torq-Thrust-M-Black-with-Shelby-cap-17x8-pr-22578.html and the same tires in 245/45zr17 - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z&partnum=445WR7HTRZ&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=0 - I'm betting wider could be used, but these look perfect and I expect they'll perform really well.
All this is copy/pasted from some other wheel thread, but I like your idea of putting all the experiences with tire/wheel size in one place. I spent weeks searching through threads looking for measurements, giving up and educating myself on how to take the measurements myself, figuring out what I was wrong about, fixing it, and finally settling on a wheel/tire. And before anyone says I should just have taken it to a local tire place, I tried that - several places wanted to look in a book and sell me something MUCH narrower because that's what the book said would fit. Nobody was willing to go outside the defaults.
Quote from: kcederwall08 on October 31, 2009, 04:32:18 AM
i'm running 18x9 0-offset/4.5 backspacing in front and 18x10 0-offset/ 5 backspacing in the rear.
Tires are 245/45/18's all around
The wheels are made by DPE and are the R05.
All around pretty good, but I could fit way more wheel in there.
Picture:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0209copy.jpg)
I also tried putting the 18x10's on the front(below), but they rubbed on the inside a little bit under full lock. So a couple mm of negative offset would fix that.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0160.jpg)
WOW LOVE THAT CAR THE WHEELS ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
Not the best pic but this is my 70 with Mickey Thompson 295/50/15 on the rear the back spacing is 3-3/8
Here is another pic. sorry not to much room in my garage.
OK I have a few more pics. There is about one inc clearance from the tire to the outer wheel lip on my car. The first pic I believe that there is no weight on the rear end so that is why it looks like there is so much clearance
18x8 in the front, 20x8.5 in back. No rub unless the air-ride is fully deflated.
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs008.snc3/11531_208859533740_663053740_3113922_4475016_n.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4241_81373923740_663053740_1902304_633019_n.jpg)
hey kcederwall took ya advise :cheers:
i recently purchased a set of rushforth rims 18x8 fronts 0-offset and 19x10 rear 0-offset 5 backspace,
i wanna go 245 fronts and 305 wide rear not sure on side wallprofile with 19's , i had a set of torq thrust in 17's i had a set of 305 on the rear.... so they do fit , i removed that side wall piece in the rear tubs that pervents ya lowering to much, and i also cut and made a new tighter fitting front guard support thingy too, low is the go,, lol
Quote from: kcederwall08 on October 31, 2009, 04:32:18 AM
i'm running 18x9 0-offset/4.5 backspacing in front and 18x10 0-offset/ 5 backspacing in the rear.
Tires are 245/45/18's all around
The wheels are made by DPE and are the R05.
All around pretty good, but I could fit way more wheel in there.
Picture:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0209copy.jpg)
I also tried putting the 18x10's on the front(below), but they rubbed on the inside a little bit under full lock. So a couple mm of negative offset would fix that.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/DSC_0160.jpg)
Quote from: dodgey68 on December 24, 2009, 11:15:26 PM
hey kcederwall took ya advise :cheers:
i recently purchased a set of rushforth rims 18x8 fronts 0-offset and 19x10 rear 0-offset 5 backspace,
i wanna go 245 fronts and 305 wide rear not sure on side wallprofile with 19's , i had a set of torq thrust in 17's i had a set of 305 on the rear.... so they do fit , i removed that side wall piece in the rear tubs that pervents ya lowering to much, and i also cut and made a new tighter fitting front guard support thingy too, low is the go,, lol
Awesome Man! post up some pictures, lets see it!
I recently put a 2" spacer on the front and rear wheels just to see how much wheel width the car could really fit, and the wheels and tires Barely fit. I am lowered way too much in the front to drive it, but it could work with some modifying.
So with a 2 in spacer on a 9 in wheel it seems the max i could see anyone ever running is a 18x11 -25 offset wheel in front, not that anyone would want too
In the rear, there is still room between my leaf spring and wheel, so i don't know the max it could be back there. I estimate it would be about an 18x12 -25 offset?
Keep in mind the numbers in front are with my amount of camber and ride height, so yours may be different.
Fronts: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/20379_231526541648_642856648_324111.jpg)
Rears: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Delta6164/20379_231574091648_642856648_324129.jpg)
i altered the rear tubs myself , got rid of the buldge bit and front guards i altered the cross support, made a new tight guard huggin one,
This is great stuff guys! Love it! :cheers: Keep it coming! :2thumbs:
Hey blue
Any progress on your car? Gonna be done for the picnic this summer?
Reed
Quote from: dodgey68 on January 10, 2010, 09:23:03 PM
i altered the rear tubs myself , got rid of the buldge bit and front guards i altered the cross support, made a new tight guard huggin one,
thats a good idea :yesnod: what about rolling the lip also :scratchchin:
Quote from: GPULLER on February 10, 2010, 03:26:29 PM
Hey blue
Any progress on your car? Gonna be done for the picnic this summer?
Reed
Hey Reed, progress is coming along. The sheetmetal in the back is finally starting to go back on rather than off. I hope to have it done for Car Craft but we'll see. The picnic is in August, right? I am down in SC for work and it's supposed to last another year but I will plan to be back for those two event, granted I get it finished. :paintingpink:
Quote from: tan top on February 10, 2010, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: dodgey68 on January 10, 2010, 09:23:03 PM
i altered the rear tubs myself , got rid of the buldge bit and front guards i altered the cross support, made a new tight guard huggin one,
thats a good idea :yesnod: what about rolling the lip also :scratchchin:
oh yes i did roll both front and rear lips also,,,, :2thumbs:
Quote from: dodgey68 on February 12, 2010, 04:18:17 AM
Quote from: tan top on February 10, 2010, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: dodgey68 on January 10, 2010, 09:23:03 PM
i altered the rear tubs myself , got rid of the buldge bit and front guards i altered the cross support, made a new tight guard huggin one,
thats a good idea :yesnod: what about rolling the lip also :scratchchin:
oh yes i did roll both front and rear lips also,,,, :2thumbs:
guess you would of done :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
anyone with cragar SS? :shruggy:
BLUE68RT4ME, I really like the stance of your car. I've been thinking 15x10's in the back and 15x7's in the front also. How did you arrive at your car's stance? Do you have any rubbing issues in the back especially with 2 people in the backseat? Thanks for your work here!
Tom
I realize that this thread is leaning more for the larger wheels, but I figured info is info. I hope to do a larger wheel before too long, but for now this is what Im running. 15x7's with 3.5in backspacing, 235/60/15's, with a 1in spacer all four corners..
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2561/thehotrod070resizedx0.jpg)
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3835/thehotrod013resizejc8.jpg)
For me the real dilemma here seems to be why it is that no one wants to take the time to take their own measurements, or to learn how? The fact that one combination worked well for this guy, does not mean it will work well for the other guy... There are to many variables... even things like tire sizes are not consistent from one manufacture to the next... for instance a 295/50/15 Cooper Cobra is not as wide as a 295/50/15 BFG Radial T/A (see images below)... so if your going to fit either of these tires to your wheel wells and place them exactly where you want them, you are going to have to account for this difference when choosing a backspace for your rim. I have 295/50/15 BGF's on the rear of my car, mounted on 15 X 10 Cragars with a 5" backspace, and they are perfectly centered. If I was going to run a tire like the 295/50/15 Cooper I would have changed that backspace based on my own measurements and the information provided by the tire manufacture. I would have also asked around here first, to see just how wide a particular brand of tire really is on a 10" rim (if available), to help me dial it in.
I know... Party Pooper :lol:
Musicman is right, but this thread does give everyone ideas on different combos though which is still a good thing
even left to right measurements can be different, i'll have to go get mine again with new pics but one side is definitely closer to the wheel lip than the other
i haven't checked my car for squareness but i do know that its never been in a major accident so it should be fairly square still
Quote from: mauve66 on February 20, 2010, 02:32:42 PM
This thread does give everyone ideas on different combos though which is still a good thing
Agreed :cheers:
Quote from: mauve66 on February 20, 2010, 02:32:42 PM
Even left to right measurements can be different
Very common... Mine had a 1/8" difference to be exact :yesnod:
My combo:
17x7 with 235/45/ZR17s Front
18x9.5 with 295/45/ZR18s Rear
Centerline Softtail Wheels
Nitto NT555 Tires
Front 0 offset
Rear 5" Backspacing, they rub on big bumps but I really need to rebuild the stock rear suspension.
In my case 5.25 BS would've been ideal, as I thought 5.5" would rub the leafs.
In the future I'll go wider up front also, an 8" wheel and 255 tires would be perfect I think.
I love the look of Chargers and B-Bodies in general with staggered wheels, particularly 17s front 18s rear. :drool5:
:cheers:
Before I stripped it and sprayed it with flat black epoxy primer
:yesnod:
BTW - kcederwall08, love the stance and the wheels, great job picking something out of the mainstream, it looks great :2thumbs:
Quote from: Musicman on February 20, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
For me the real dilemma here seems to be why it is that no one wants to take the time to take their own measurements, or to learn how? The fact that one combination worked well for this guy, does not mean it will work well for the other guy... There are to many variables... even things like tire sizes are not consistent from one manufacture to the next... for instance a 295/50/15 Cooper Cobra is not as wide as a 295/50/15 BFG Radial T/A (see images below)... so if your going to fit either of these tires to your wheel wells and place them exactly where you want them, you are going to have to account for this difference when choosing a backspace for your rim. I have 295/50/15 BGF's on the rear of my car, mounted on 15 X 10 Cragars with a 5" backspace, and they are perfectly centered. If I was going to run a tire like the 295/50/15 Cooper I would have changed that backspace based on my own measurements and the information provided by the tire manufacture. I would have also asked around here first, to see just how wide a particular brand of tire really is on a 10" rim (if available), to help me dial it in.
I know... Party Pooper :lol:
But what if I want a BFG 295/50/15?... then your info would be priceless....which it is!!
Quote from: twodko on February 12, 2010, 02:50:57 PM
BLUE68RT4ME, I really like the stance of your car. I've been thinking 15x10's in the back and 15x7's in the front also. How did you arrive at your car's stance? Do you have any rubbing issues in the back especially with 2 people in the backseat? Thanks for your work here!
Tom
Hey Tom, so sorry for the delayed response, I haven't been on here much lately. Glad you like the stance, I'm assuming you're referring to the picture in the garage. As poor as that picture is, I love the way the car looks ready to jump right out of the garage. :icon_smile_big:
Honestly, the guy that I bought my car from was engaged to my cousin and he sought the car out for me, basically. He was trying to help a fellow Charger lover out. When I bought the car, he gave me the option of running the 15's or the 14's. The 15's had to be polished but had new tread on them, the 14's were already on the car but the tires were not as new and didn't fill the car out as well. He had both sets lying in his shop. He'd just through them on any car he bought until he got the wheels he wanted. He builds Chargers for a living and turns them around so he get's plenty of wheels to sell after upgrading them.
Anyway, that's how I came to choose them. It was the little 14's or the big meats on the 15's. I like the look of the full wheel well and the wide tires in back. I didn't have any issues with rubbing anywhere. I DID have air shocks on at the time so I can't say that I'm sure that the look was truly natural regarding the spring stance but I never filled the shocks up much because I didn't want the ride to get rough, nor did I want the rear end WAY up in the air for look and because it's hard on the shock mounts. However, it wouldn't have mattered how low the shocks were, they never would have rubbed. My buddy, who's a Chevy nut, had never been up close to a Charger before and he looked at the space I had in the well and couldn't believe it. His little Chevy II is tubbed and he doesn't have the kind of clearance we do. He commented on how we could probably run a real slick without any worries. So, as long as you keep the backspacing right, you should not have to worry about clearance on the lip or inside the lip.
If I can help you any more let me know. Thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread! :2thumbs:
Mark
Quote from: Lostsheep on February 19, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
I realize that this thread is leaning more for the larger wheels, but I figured info is info. I hope to do a larger wheel before too long, but for now this is what Im running. 15x7's with 3.5in backspacing, 235/60/15's, with a 1in spacer all four corners..
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2561/thehotrod070resizedx0.jpg)
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3835/thehotrod013resizejc8.jpg)
Lostsheep, thanks for your post. No, this thread is for everyone and any combination! Don't anyone misunderstand that. Yes, the larger wheels bring more questions as to fit, but there are more people on here running 14's and 15's either because they want to or have to and it's nice to know what others are running, and how they look. ALL posts are useful!
By-the-way, I love the pic of your car in the garage. The thing looks sweet! :drool5:
Mark
Shopping for wheels can get confusing. Within reason, if you find a car who's wheels you like that has the same as yours , you can save a lot of headache and use the same size...within reason. There will be some variations as they aren't all made perfectly the same. Unless the rims you like are really pushing the envelope of fitment, you should be ok.
I'm looking for new wheels and I learned the hard way. I knew what backspace was, but had no idea that an inch or so would be huge. I ended up selling a set of wheels for a loss because the backspace was all wrong (the look was wrong too) When you look for wheels, the different terms get you also. Offset vs. Backspace. Here is a pic that may help, plus a chart from a great website I found that actually lists offset vs. backspace for different width wheels.
Quote from: dkn1997 on February 27, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Shopping for wheels can get confusing. Within reason, if you find a car who's wheels you like that has the same as yours , you can save a lot of headache and use the same size...within reason. There will be some variations as they aren't all made perfectly the same. Unless the rims you like are really pushing the envelope of fitment, you should be ok.
I'm looking for new wheels and I learned the hard way. I knew what backspace was, but had no idea that an inch or so would be huge. I ended up selling a set of wheels for a loss because the backspace was all wrong (the look was wrong too) When you look for wheels, the different terms get you also. Offset vs. Backspace. Here is a pic that may help, plus a chart from a great website I found that actually lists offset vs. backspace for different width wheels.
Awesome post! Thanks for the great input! :cheers:
Very good info, solves headaches indeed.... :2thumbs:
Know need to know what kind a rims.
:scratchchin:
Quote from: dkn1997 on February 27, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Shopping for wheels can get confusing. Within reason, if you find a car who's wheels you like that has the same as yours , you can save a lot of headache and use the same size...within reason. There will be some variations as they aren't all made perfectly the same. Unless the rims you like are really pushing the envelope of fitment, you should be ok.
I'm looking for new wheels and I learned the hard way. I knew what backspace was, but had no idea that an inch or so would be huge. I ended up selling a set of wheels for a loss because the backspace was all wrong (the look was wrong too) When you look for wheels, the different terms get you also. Offset vs. Backspace. Here is a pic that may help, plus a chart from a great website I found that actually lists offset vs. backspace for different width wheels.
This is an issue that has taken a lot of time/money to get right for us. Having just finished our 69's resto it was time for new shoes. The choices/combinations of tires and wheels are endless and frustrating. For us it was either polished TTII's or Wheel Vintiques Mag 500's. Again, it wasn't a simple choice but we went with chrome 8 x 15 Mag 500's with 275/60/15's on the rear and 235/60/15's on the front and they look great..........except IMO the 8's on the front were too wide for the 235's. The 235's contrast well with the 275's and we even tried a pair of 255's on the front which I though were to wide. So I bought a pair of 7 x 15 Mag 500's for the front and its the look I was after. The flip side of this is I had to buy another pair of wheels AND I have a shiny new pair of 8 x 15 Mag 500's I probably won't use. It's a costly error for me especially in this crappy economy but, like many, in certain cases I need to lay eyeballs on something instead of making a choice based on numbers but its cost me $350+. My advice is this thread, look at pictures and other Chargers' setups. Good luck to all.
Basicly 15 or 16 inch and 7 in front and 8 in the back.
is 9 too much? :scratchchin:
on a 2nd gen charger, 15" wheels, you can go 10 in the back
Quote from: dkn1997 on October 28, 2010, 06:17:08 PM
on a 2nd gen charger, 15" wheels, you can go 10 in the back
yeah i believe a lot have done it !! 15 x 10 wheel with a 5 & a half back space !! would of thought that its with the stock width quarter wheel arch lip , & not the wider ones on the repoped quarters , unless thay are trimed to stock width :shruggy:
check the link out :2thumbs:
http://vexer.com/68rt/old_outdated_badly_coded_old_old_old_wheelguide.html
Hi guessing your car has them on, maybe got a pic of car to see how great 10's looks like...
Quote from: tan top on October 28, 2010, 06:37:54 PM
Quote from: dkn1997 on October 28, 2010, 06:17:08 PM
on a 2nd gen charger, 15" wheels, you can go 10 in the back
yeah i believe a lot have done it !! 15 x 10 wheel with a 5 & a half back space !! would of thought that its with the stock width quarter wheel arch lip , & not the wider ones on the repoped quarters , unless thay are trimed to stock width :shruggy:
check the link out :2thumbs:
http://vexer.com/68rt/old_outdated_badly_coded_old_old_old_wheelguide.html
I'm running 'plain steelies' 7 x 15 wheels in front and 10 x 15 in back. no problems. stock offset...and I have ssb discs set up on all 4. got my wheels from wheels vintiques.
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I will be going to a larger diameter tire ..probably Hoosier 295/60D/15s in the rear. right now ts a 295/50/15
Quote from: PatrickPeeters on October 29, 2010, 10:45:35 AM
Hi guessing your car has them on, maybe got a pic of car to see how great 10's looks like...
Quote from: tan top on October 28, 2010, 06:37:54 PM
Quote from: dkn1997 on October 28, 2010, 06:17:08 PM
on a 2nd gen charger, 15" wheels, you can go 10 in the back
yeah i believe a lot have done it !! 15 x 10 wheel with a 5 & a half back space !! would of thought that its with the stock width quarter wheel arch lip , & not the wider ones on the repoped quarters , unless thay are trimed to stock width :shruggy:
check the link out :2thumbs:
http://vexer.com/68rt/old_outdated_badly_coded_old_old_old_wheelguide.html
want fatty & skinny tires on the charger , ie the drag strip look !!, as awesome as it is :drool5: & chargers with that combo , look mean SOBs !! i was more into highway performance , crusing ability with the 2:94 gears in the suregrip eight & three quarter rear !! so went with 15x8 & 255x60r15s all round , after spending along time , playing with a wheelrite thingy , made by percys !! hours of fun !! ;)
http://www.percyshp.com/WheelRite.html
Quote from: SFRT on October 29, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
I'm running 'plain steelies' 7 x 15 wheels in front and 10 x 15 in back. no problems. stock offset...and I have ssb discs set up on all 4. got my wheels from wheels vintiques.
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I will be going to a larger diameter tire ..probably Hoosier 295/60D/15s in the rear. right now ts a 295/50/15
now thats what i'm talking about !! mean SOB :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :yesnod: :coolgleamA: that thing looks a mean mutha:2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Look great......not to much and for sure not to small.
hey Tan Top, ya gonna rent it out to recoup your money and save the rest of us half???????
shipping about $10 each way in a postoffice priority box and maybe $10 rental................
Quote from: mauve66 on October 30, 2010, 08:04:43 AM
hey Tan Top, ya gonna rent it out to recoup your money and save the rest of us half???????
shipping about $10 each way in a postoffice priority box and maybe $10 rental................
aww man yeah , sorry too late , sold it to a mopar/chebby bud , well practaly gave it away sort of !! as soon as i finished with it !! about a year & half ago ! figuring , it was only a one off deal ! expencive tool to have hanging around never to be used again & could be of use to someone else , if it was not for the shipping , you guys could of borrowed to for nothing :yesnod:
Tan Top where did you get your rims? I'm thinking of copying yours if you don't mind. Any pics of them on the Charger yet? (No sense in wasting all your research!) :yesnod:
Quote from: b5blue on October 30, 2010, 01:10:41 PM
Tan Top where did you get your rims? I'm thinking of copying yours if you don't mind. Any pics of them on the Charger yet? (No sense in wasting all your research!) :yesnod:
no worries B5B :2thumbs: if i can help i will :yesnod:
was originally going to get a custom made rallyes ( yeah i know a 70 charger wheel !! but like them :drool5: , plus the second owner of my charger had them on at one point , & seeing the pictures looked good to me ))), 15 x 8 with a 4 inch back space , so i could run a 255 tire on all four corners , ideally though a custom back space of 4 & 1/8 th of an inch is what you need !! well at least on mine !!
got my steel 15x8 with a four inch back space from wheel vintiques !! ( was about to paint them Y2 , but think it looks too much for my taste !!so painted them satin black )) was going to get a custom back space of 4 & 1/8th also , but at the last minute of ordering went with 4 , 4 & 1/8 would of been better in the rear ! but wanted a 5 wheels the same !!
also all this messing about cause i wanted as deeper dish look as i could with all the wheels being the same , & the tires tucked under the wheel arch lip !! & no chance of rubbing :yesnod:
have a read through my posts in these threads , especially the one in the areo section !! :popcrn:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,73119.100.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,70474.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,74591.0.html
Well we do think the same, my concept was a 5 matched set like you. :2thumbs: (Just "in case")
I put Mickey Thompson Drag Radials, 325/50/15's on 15x10's with a 5.5 inch BS on the rear and Mickey Thompson Sportsman ST 245/60/15 on 15x8's in the front.
I used Bull's deal he made with Kelly at Specialty.
There is BFG Radials on the other one 295/50/15 on 15x10's with 5 inch BS. I couldn't use the neutral BS wheels with the bigger tires.
good info in this thread :cheers:
Yes, I wish more people would contribute to it. Whether it's working out sizing problems or finding a good look, there is a lot of good help here already and there is so much more that could be shared. This thread has really been helpful to me.
:popcrn:
I tried the 15x10's with 5.5bs, they were close, I would need a spacer to keep em off the leaf springs. Im thinking 5" bs with a 305 tire...?
Quote from: Patronus on December 09, 2010, 10:53:56 AM
I tried the 15x10's with 5.5bs, they were close, I would need a spacer to keep em off the leaf springs. Im thinking 5" bs with a 305 tire...?
:iagree: they are close. I'm just finishing rebuilding the Dana and switched to 4.10's. I'm planning on taking the advice of Ron and use 295/65/15's. I'll gain 2 inches in height and narrow the tire an inch which should give me more of a gap to the leaf spring.
Take the rear end color poll http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75942.0.html
khodne do you think 325-50-15 would fit on 15x10 with 5 backspace?
i am running 295-50-15 right now but i do Not know how much wider they are.
I removed original comment. Patronus is correct, it is to tight without a spacer. I thought 5 inch would be to close to the quarter. Here is a picture of the green Charger with 5 inch BS and 295/50/15's.
I believe you mean the 5.5 stick IN too far... anyway... if anyones wondering, the nitto555r comes in a 50 series to match the rear (15")...not like BFG's, the fronts are 60's
From what I am seeing and reading, it seems I can tuck a 335-17 on an 11 inch wheel in the rear. I measured and looks like I have 13 inches of clearance from the spring to the inner lip. Anyone know for sure ?
Quote from: cotton on December 22, 2010, 04:49:23 PM
From what I am seeing and reading, it seems I can tuck a 335-17 on an 11 inch wheel in the rear. I measured and looks like I have 13 inches of clearance from the spring to the inner lip. Anyone know for sure ?
Wow! That's some meat! You'll have to post pics if you go with it. I'm intruiged!
wheel vintiques 15x 8, with 4.25 back space . don't remember the sisze of the tires but i think there big 70's :cheers:
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on February 26, 2010, 10:31:18 PM
By-the-way, I love the pic of your car in the garage. The thing looks sweet! :drool5:
Mark
Thanks bud. Hadn't been by in a while.
Hi I haven't posted much on this forum, yet, but my rear tire/wheel combo is:
345/30 ZR 19 Michellin Pilot PS2
Wheel: Budnik 19x 13
wWe widened the tubs up to the frame rail, about 3in. Std diff width flange to flange. wheels & tires fit great, not a lot of clearance but do not rub.
:2thumbs:
rear wheel:
Quote from: darrenb811 on February 05, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Hi I haven't posted much on this forum, yet, but my rear tire/wheel combo is:
345/30 ZR 19 Michellin Pilot PS2
Wheel: Budnik 19x 13
wWe widened the tubs up to the frame rail, about 3in. Std diff width flange to flange. wheels & tires fit great, not a lot of clearance but do not rub.
:2thumbs:
WOW!!! :notworthy:
This is a GREAT topic and post session! Some VERY informative goodies! And AWESOME Pics!!!! Keep it coming guys, there are LOTS of us who haven't picked our wheels yet! :cheers: :o :drool5: :icon_smile_big: :yesnod: :2thumbs: :thumbs: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
I just mounted mine up.18x9 and 18x10 4.5" back spacing in front and 5 in rear. 275/40/18 front 295/45/18 rear. Went with Budniks GTB wheels powdercoated.
that is some serious meat on these wheels!
275s in front! :o NICE!
Front; 235/60x15, 15x8 4.25 back space Rear; 275/60x15, 15x10 5.0 back space. Billet Magnum wheels
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/highplainsperformance/charger0001.jpg)
Same front, this rear set is 295/65x15 BFG drag radial on 15x8 4.5 back space. Rear is Cragar Dragstar
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/highplainsperformance/charger0003.jpg)
Tire and wheels that were on it when I bought it in 1998.
Front: AR Outlaw I 15x7 3.75" backspacing with a 205/60R15.
Back: AR Outlaw I 15x10 4" Backspacing with a 295/50R15 .
The rear tires rubbed.
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New Wheels I just bought, March 2011.
Front: AR Hopster 15x7 3.75" backspacing with 235/60R15 Cooper Cobra GT.
Back: AR Hopster 15x8 4" backspacing with 275/60R15 Cooper Cobra GT.
No rubbing issues.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5544016627_e54ef67593_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustininwy1/5544016627/)
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Quote from: v21hemicharger on February 18, 2011, 12:43:52 PM
I just mounted mine up.18x9 and 18x10 4.5" back spacing in front and 5 in rear. 275/40/18 front 295/45/18 rear. Went with Budniks GTB wheels powdercoated.
What brake kits is that on your front?
Big wheels with big rubber. I don't think I've ever seen rubber that big, impressive. Most of the time people put super small rubber on so it looks like rubber bands over the wheels. Now that look I don't care for.
I'd really like to see some profile pix of your ride. :2thumbs:
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on April 03, 2011, 12:46:59 AM
Big wheels with big rubber. I don't think I've ever seen rubber that big, impressive. Most of the time people put super small rubber on so it looks like rubber bands over the wheels. Now that look I don't care for.
I'd really like to see some profile pix of your ride. :2thumbs:
i agree. i dont really care for the "chip foose dub" look. it just does not look right on old muscle cars. when i see our old cars that look like the whole chip foose catalog was thrown at it, i just.. :rotz: but then again i'm old school too...
:icon_smile_big:
Quote from: oldschool on April 03, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on April 03, 2011, 12:46:59 AM
Big wheels with big rubber. I don't think I've ever seen rubber that big, impressive. Most of the time people put super small rubber on so it looks like rubber bands over the wheels. Now that look I don't care for.
I'd really like to see some profile pix of your ride. :2thumbs:
i agree. i dont really care for the "chip foose dub" look. it just does not look right on old muscle cars. when i see our old cars that look like the whole chip foose catalog was thrown at it, i just.. :rotz: but then again i'm old school too...
:icon_smile_big:
I also agree but to me 40's are not enough I have a set of 17's still in the boxes. On the back, I have a 275/55/17 and on the front, a 235/50/17 what I would really like, is a 18 on the back but I would still have a 50 sidewall on it I might go to 45 (on the 18) but that would be the limit.
May be a dumb question but will 15x10s work on the front of a 69 charger?
Quote from: dkn1997 on February 27, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Shopping for wheels can get confusing. Within reason, if you find a car who's wheels you like that has the same as yours , you can save a lot of headache and use the same size...within reason. There will be some variations as they aren't all made perfectly the same. Unless the rims you like are really pushing the envelope of fitment, you should be ok.
I'm looking for new wheels and I learned the hard way. I knew what backspace was, but had no idea that an inch or so would be huge. I ended up selling a set of wheels for a loss because the backspace was all wrong (the look was wrong too) When you look for wheels, the different terms get you also. Offset vs. Backspace. Here is a pic that may help, plus a chart from a great website I found that actually lists offset vs. backspace for different width wheels.
Love the look in this picture! So what rims are you using and tire sizes on this one?
Quote from: freddyd02 on April 07, 2011, 10:07:32 PM
May be a dumb question but will 15x10s work on the front of a 69 charger?
Not in a stock layout with stock suspension, fenders, and fenderwells.
Quote from: rrob on April 12, 2011, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: dkn1997 on February 27, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Shopping for wheels can get confusing. Within reason, if you find a car who's wheels you like that has the same as yours , you can save a lot of headache and use the same size...within reason. There will be some variations as they aren't all made perfectly the same. Unless the rims you like are really pushing the envelope of fitment, you should be ok.
I'm looking for new wheels and I learned the hard way. I knew what backspace was, but had no idea that an inch or so would be huge. I ended up selling a set of wheels for a loss because the backspace was all wrong (the look was wrong too) When you look for wheels, the different terms get you also. Offset vs. Backspace. Here is a pic that may help, plus a chart from a great website I found that actually lists offset vs. backspace for different width wheels.
Love the look in this picture! So what rims are you using and tire sizes on this one?
Those wheels are gone now, but they were american racing torque thrust 2, 16x8 with 4.5" backspace all around. front tires 245/50, rear 295/50
I really want to go 17" all the way around. Anyone running 17's all the way. Please post pics and specs of wheels and tires.
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
Quote from: Patronus on April 24, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
NICE! ive allways thought about doing those wheels on my car, they definately look good. Are those panasports?
Quote from: Patronus on April 24, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
what tire size are you running there?
345 rears:
Quote from: chargerhunter on April 27, 2011, 06:54:16 AM
Quote from: Patronus on April 24, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
what tire size are you running there?
The rims are V-48's from Wheel Vintiques. Tires are Kumhos :eek2: 245 45 17 and 275 40 17. I'll probably run the Nitto 555r on some 18" for the Charger, they make 275 50's and 305 50's.
Thanks! :2thumbs:
Quote from: dangina on April 02, 2011, 07:26:22 AM
Quote from: v21hemicharger on February 18, 2011, 12:43:52 PM
I just mounted mine up.18x9 and 18x10 4.5" back spacing in front and 5 in rear. 275/40/18 front 295/45/18 rear. Went with Budniks GTB wheels powdercoated.
What brake kits is that on your front?
I used wilwood hubs with coleman rotors and US Brake calipers and made my own adapters. I, too, hate the rubber band look. That's why I went with the "rolled" lip and powder coated the rim black to make it look like more sidewall. Mike
:2thumbs: I love your car!!!
Quote from: SFRT on October 29, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
I'm running 'plain steelies' 7 x 15 wheels in front and 10 x 15 in back. no problems. stock offset...and I have ssb discs set up on all 4. got my wheels from wheels vintiques.
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I will be going to a larger diameter tire ..probably Hoosier 295/60D/15s in the rear. right now ts a 295/50/15
This is a great look! I really like your setup with the OE chrysler steel wheels. I guess you have 5,5'' backspace on the rear rims. If that is "stock offset"? Am I right??
But what backspacing is it on the 7 x 15s in the front? And do you think you can fit 8 x 15s up front??
Thanks
keep in mind the wider the front track theres a tendacy the fronts will groove and tend to pull into the ruts in the road. so even though its super cool to stuff the fenders too fat is no good.
maybe some dudes dont drive there cars in order to determine that
i won't go wider than a 245 15 on these old b body's in the front . i had 255's in the front of the 68 charger and i didn't like them . :Twocents:
Quote from: HPP on March 01, 2011, 10:29:07 PM
Front; 235/60x15, 15x8 4.25 back space Rear; 275/60x15, 15x10 5.0 back space. Billet Magnum wheels
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/highplainsperformance/charger0001.jpg)
Same front, this rear set is 295/65x15 BFG drag radial on 15x8 4.5 back space. Rear is Cragar Dragstar
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/highplainsperformance/charger0003.jpg)
Nice look and stance you have got there HPP. What kind of tires (brand) are you running on the:"Front; 235/60x15, 15x8 4.25 back space Rear; 275/60x15, 15x10 5.0 back space. Billet Magnum wheels."
And would you be able to run 15x8 with 4.5 back space up front, and 15x10 with 5.5 back space in the back?
And if you don't mind me asking, how much room clearance do you have on each side of your rear tire??
Thanks.
Quote from: darrenb811 on April 27, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
345 rears:
345 rears:
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WOW! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I had my original Cragar S/S 14s powder coated and now I'm looking for tires. I found 14" tires on Summit for a decent price but I'm not really sure what size tires to put on the rims. My father gave me the car with 5 wheels, 2- 14 X 8 and 3- 14 X 7. I am looking to put some BFG T/A 245/60R14 on the rears and BFG 225/70R14 on the front. I'm using these wheels primarily for the resto but I do plan on burning up the rears the first chance I get. If anybody can suggest a better place to find 14" tires or a recommendation on tire size it would help.
Thanks, DRE.
Quote from: mysil bergsprekken on September 20, 2011, 01:31:03 AM
Nice look and stance you have got there HPP. What kind of tires (brand) are you running on the:"Front; 235/60x15, 15x8 4.25 back space Rear; 275/60x15, 15x10 5.0 back space. Billet Magnum wheels."
And would you be able to run 15x8 with 4.5 back space up front, and 15x10 with 5.5 back space in the back?
And if you don't mind me asking, how much room clearance do you have on each side of your rear tire??
Thanks.
These are just some low cost Grand Am radial GT tires. Yes, you could run 4.5 backspace up front with that tire. In my experience, the max backspace you can run on the front with a 15" wheel is 4.75. With a 235 tires, this barely clears the control arm and ball joints.
Out back a 5.5" backspace would work as well. With the current set up it is a couple of inches to both side of the spring and almost that much to the fender lip. Changing to a 295 tire may reduce that space 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch per side though.
Quote from: BigBlockSam on August 21, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
i won't go wider than a 245 15 on these old b body's in the front . i had 255's in the front of the 68 charger and i didn't like them . :Twocents:
Why didn't you like them, specifically? Stock tires on my '99 T/A are 275 up front and I don't like them either, they really shouldn't be any wider than 245. Hell even a comparable year 'Vette only runs 245's. When the new wheels and tires for the Charger come up I'd like to keep them 245 up front and maybe 275 in the back. Do the wheels have to be different widths to accomodate this, like an 8" versus a 9"?
Quote from: Patronus on April 24, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
Anyone know what kind of wheels these are?? thanks.
Quote from: elanmars on April 25, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
Quote from: Patronus on April 24, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Here's 17x8 4.5bs and 17x9 5.0bs
Anyone know what kind of wheels these are?? thanks.
Quote from: Patronus on April 27, 2011, 04:37:21 PM
The rims are V-48's from Wheel Vintiques. Tires are Kumhos :eek2: 245 45 17 and 275 40 17. I'll probably run the Nitto 555r on some 18" for the Charger, they make 275 50's and 305 50's.
Any idea if the BFG 295/50/15's will fit on an 8.5 wheel?
Quote from: Ex President on September 04, 2012, 12:36:59 AM
Any idea if the BFG 295/50/15's will fit on an 8.5 wheel?
I have 295 50 15s on 8.5 rears. Not BFG but I wouldnt have thought that would make a difference.
Quote from: Ex President on September 04, 2012, 12:36:59 AM
Any idea if the BFG 295/50/15's will fit on an 8.5 wheel?
what year charger ? what back space is the wheel ? :popcrn:
I didn't see it discussed, but what is a good set up for all four 15" Magnum 500s being the same size? What tire size and what backspacing, considering the wheels would be the same front and rear?
I bought the car with 295-50/15 on the rear and 205/65-15 on the front. The tires are old and the wheels are pitted, with some rust breaking through the chrome on the left rear wheel, so I'm leaning toward getting a new set of 500s. The rear wheels have two 1/4" spacers on each side, but even with those, the raised white letters, which are mounted toward the inside, have been nearly wiped off by the inner wheel well. I guess the offset is stamped on the inside the rim, so you can't see it with the tires mounted? That's convenient. ::)
The fronts seem too skinny, but maybe that's just in comparison to the wide ones in the rear. I don't feel the need to fill the rear wheel wells, and I'd be happy with something just slightly larger than the stock 14" size in a 15" set of wheels.
Quote from: twenty mike mike on September 10, 2012, 01:06:19 PM
I didn't see it discussed, but what is a good set up for all four 15" Magnum 500s being the same size? What tire size and what backspacing, considering the wheels would be the same front and rear?
I bought the car with 295-50/15 on the rear and 205/65-15 on the front. The tires are old and the wheels are pitted, with some rust breaking through the chrome on the left rear wheel, so I'm leaning toward getting a new set of 500s. The rear wheels have two 1/4" spacers on each side, but even with those, the raised white letters, which are mounted toward the inside, have been nearly wiped off by the inner wheel well. I guess the offset is stamped on the inside the rim, so you can't see it with the tires mounted? That's convenient. ::)
The fronts seem too skinny, but maybe that's just in comparison to the wide ones in the rear. I don't feel the need to fill the rear wheel wells, and I'd be happy with something just slightly larger than the stock 14" size in a 15" set of wheels.
That depends entirely on the look you want. To have the same size on each corner I think 15x7 with 255's looks pretty good.
Quote from: Dino on September 10, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
To have the same size on each corner I think 15x7 with 255's looks pretty good.
Wow, Slim Pickens in that size. I'm surprised at how few tires are available. Thanks for the input.
Quote from: twenty mike mike on September 11, 2012, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dino on September 10, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
To have the same size on each corner I think 15x7 with 255's looks pretty good.
Wow, Slim Pickens in that size. I'm surprised at how few tires are available. Thanks for the input.
I've only looked at BFG, Mickey Thompson and Cooper Cobra's and they all have the 225/60 15 with rwl. If you go bigger then you might have issues up front, I'm not sure what the biggest tire is that'll fit the front. If you go smaller to let's say a 245 then I would use more backspace on the rear rims to push the tire closer to the outside to at least give the illusion that those massive wheelwells are a bit more filled.
I've just ordered some Nitto 450s - 275/50/17 for out back, and 255/50/17 for the front. They will be on Torq Thrust originals. I *had* Fuzion ZRI 255/50/17s all around, but, in shipping the car, the back 2 were damaged without having ever driven it :| Anyhow, looking forward to the new setup, and having a slightly beefier tire out back. Probably going to white the letters on them too. The 450s have some good block lettering that will support that nicely. I just need old school white letters on my 70's car. :)
Ok guys looks like the secret code for me is 15x10 with 5' backspace. Problem is I want cragar ss' and that size isn't available...know any sources???
some manufacturers will make you a special wheel backspace for an additional cost, call/email thier customer service dept
Got hold of Cragar's Customer service and you can special order custom backspace. $25-35 per wheel and takes 3 weeks
I ordered my Cragars custom spaced through Summit. It was Cragar that told me to go through them, but that was a few years ago. :shruggy:
It was only like $12 a rim at the time, but again that was a few years back.
Quote from: AKcharger on October 22, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Ok guys looks like the secret code for me is 15x10 with 5' backspace. Problem is I want cragar ss' and that size isn't available...know any sources???
Here is a 68 with 10" Cragar SS wheels and 4.25" of backspacing - which is what I think they come with. So it seems it can be done. I don't know if it has Super Stock springs. The car belonged to VegasMike but it has since been sold to a new owner who is also a member:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6000.msg356593.html#msg356593
Hi guys,im new at the Chargerforum! looks like a great forum with lots of knowledge. Great thread and info!, but retarded as i am ( maybe cause im from Sweden...) i still have a question about clearance for my 69 charger. im thinking of mountuing a set of billet specialties street lite (black) with hoosier quick time d.o.t.
but what sizes do i need? as i live in sweden im pretty darn worried about order the wrong wheels from USA, hop to get it right the first time if you know what i mean, anyway, im thinking in the back -
Billet Specialties street lite (black)15x10" with 4,5" backspace. tires = Hoosier 295/60-15 (can`t find 5"bs on summit)
Front ? i have no idea.....please help. i`ve seen Hoosier 245 /60-15 on summit, maybe that will work in the front? but i dont know what kind of backspace and width i would need for the front?
Im about to order this stuff, so i would be more than happy i anyone would help me with this questions as soon as possible :popcrn:
//Adam -Sweden
Come on guys, time is running out.... :'(
Anyone? i have looked a little on the Aero wheels as well, pretty cool steel wheels for 65$ each.. what do you think of thoose?
btw SFRT , the pic on that black Charger with steelwheels is the coolest i have seen in years!
//Adam
Quote from: AdamA on October 29, 2012, 04:31:48 AM
Billet Specialties street lite (black)15x10" with 4,5" backspace. tires = Hoosier 295/60-15 (can`t find 5"bs on summit)
Front ? i have no idea.....please help. i`ve seen Hoosier 245 /60-15 on summit, maybe that will work in the front? but i dont know what kind of backspace and width i would need for the front?
Im about to order this stuff, so i would be more than happy i anyone would help me with this questions as soon as possible :popcrn:
//Adam -Sweden
A 15x10 with 4.5" backspace will most likely rub. I had 15x10 with a 5" backspace with a 295/50 tire and it just barely fit. As for the front go with a 15x8 with 4.5" of backspace with a 245/60 tire. Thats what I had and it fit great. :cheers:
Ok, so maybe i should go for a 8" wheel instead of 10? and maybe a 275 tire? or will it work with 10" with 5,5 " BS? goddamn i think this stuff i difficult :'( we have the metric system in Sweden, inches is difficult to calculate with when youre not used to it... :shruggy:
Thanks for the reply !
15x10 5in back space 295-50-15 will fit,5.5 back is better,my car has 10 s 5 in back & they clear.
Ok great so i Will be searching for 5,5"bs on a 10" rim then. I have seen the billet spec "street lite" in that combo but i cant seem to find the street lite in black in that dimensions.... Anybody know if it exists? Maybe just me missed on summits HomePage?
//Adam
Quote from: AdamA on October 30, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
Ok, so maybe i should go for a 8" wheel instead of 10? and maybe a 275 tire? Thanks for the reply !
That depends entirely on the look you are after. A 15x8 with a 275 tire will have that typical muscle car balloon look to the tire where a 15x110 with 295 wiull have straighter and flatter sidewalls. I'm going for the 275 combo myself.
Quote from: AdamA on October 30, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
:'( we have the metric system in Sweden, inches is difficult to calculate with when youre not used to it... :shruggy:
Thanks for the reply !
If your on the metric system you should be using offset measurements which are much simpler to work with than backspace measurements.
Ok , anyway i ordered the 15x10" with 5,5 BS for the rear and the 15x8" with 4,5 BS to the front.. hope it will work with 295/60 in rear and 245/60 in the front.... :popcrn:
Hi again, do you guys think a Hoosier with 65 profile will work in the back or will it rub? i prefer 65 profile if its possible...
/Adam
I went similar to user "mxzx440" so I can't really take credit for my choices although they are a little different is size. My fronts are 17X7's where his were 17X8's. The backs are 18X9.5. The tire sizes are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2's. They hook-up great and I love the look!
love the pic :coolgleamA:
Looking good. Nice wheels.
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on November 08, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
I went similar to user "mxzx440" so I can't really take credit for my choices although they are a little different is size. My fronts are 17X7's where his were 17X8's. The backs are 18X9.5. The tire sizes are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2's. They hook-up great and I love the look!
Thanks for posting the info.. It looks great! :cheers:
I thought I put my specs. in here but guess not.
Rear: 275/60/15 on 8.5" width wheels 3.75" bs
Front: 235/60/15 on 7" width wheels. Not sure bs but it must be around 3.5".
Initially I wanted to put 295's on so I sold the torqs that came on the car 8" width rears but 4" bs for the current set.
The 3.75" scared me. Hindsight I would have been better off with the original set but the 295 is too much for an 8" wheel. There's a member who runs the 295s' with my wheels bs & has no issues.
In the end I wanted the ass end a little higher & going with the 295s' would have defeated that so I went with the 275s'.
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/motelnightbefore.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/SRUpurpgoingdowntheroad6-1-084edd.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/P1015655edd.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/SRUpurpgoingdowntheroad6-1-088edd.jpg)
Ok, so i think i saw M/T have 60 profile on the 295`s , maybe that will work..
didn`t buy those, bought bf goodrich 245/60-15 front 295/50-15 back hope that will work, but i have to wait 2 months for my wheels to travel over the water from USA....
heres a great site to compare wheels and tires!! http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp :cheers:
16 x 8 American Racing AR898 rims with P235/60R16 Falken SN211 tires. Now I just need to buy the Wilwood brakes for front and back. Note: the new rear springs have a one inch lift greater than stock.
Mike
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on November 08, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
I went similar to user "mxzx440" so I can't really take credit for my choices although they are a little different is size. My fronts are 17X7's where his were 17X8's. The backs are 18X9.5. The tire sizes are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2's. They hook-up great and I love the look!
Damn Mark your car turned out sweet! Hopefully get to see it this year at
Mopars in the Park.
Quote from: GPULLER on January 06, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
Damn Mark your car turned out sweet! Hopefully get to see it this year at
Mopars in the Park.
Thanks buddy! Look forward to seeing you then!
I have been looking for tires for a 17 inch rim that are equal to a 275/60/15 but for a 17 inch rim 28 inches tall and 10 inches wide is anyone running something like this?
Thanks
275 50/17 should be 27.8" tall
I would be interested in seeing this if anyone has this combination.
255/50R17 in the front on 17x9 and 275/50R17 in the rear.
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss108/jhowdle/1971%20Charger%20Superbee/0717_zpsc7d1a774.jpg)
Wookie316 what tire are you running? brand?
Thanks!
Nitto 555 up front. M & H Drag Radials out back.
Quote from: 1st_charger on January 10, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
I have been looking for tires for a 17 inch rim that are equal to a 275/60/15 but for a 17 inch rim 28 inches tall and 10 inches wide is anyone running something like this?
Thanks
Go to tirerack.com and click on the "tires" arrow on line 2. In the "Shop for Tires" section select an approximate size to what you think is the size you're looking for (however, just getting the 17" wheel size right is most important part of this right now).
Select the "Go" button once you have your size selected and on the next page there will be the first of several pages of possible tires. On the left, there are filters. You can select the brands you wish to view here. After selecting the brands you like, you can browse all the potential tires available.
Once you see a brand/tire design you like, select the word "specs" in the "additional tire information" section in that tires preview ad. This will take you to that tires spec page. Here, you will see the size details of every aspect of this tire. If it does meet your requirements (this is the whole point of my comments here) there is a tab below labeled "other sizes" and here you can view every aspect of every single size of that type of tire.
Some brands, like Dunlop, do not provide a spreadsheet of everything all at once but there is a list of other tire sizes which you can select another size then go to the spec tab again and view its details. However, on BFGoodrich and Michellin tires for example, you will find a spreadsheet of every size and every detail of that series of tire. Just look down the diameter and width columns and you should find your tire (just make sure it's a 17"! :icon_smile_wink:). The closest I've seen thus far was 27" I believe but if it's out there, this will lead you to it!
Hope this helps! Good luck! :cheers: :2thumbs:
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on October 30, 2009, 10:23:30 AM
Everyone seems to have questions about wheel sizes, offsets, manufacturers, etc. It's also not the easiest to go through searching all the threads to try and find a snid-bit here and there of what you're looking for. So, I decided to start a thread where everyone can list their wheel brands, sizes, offsets, and anything unique about them - maybe discuss any issues or advantages, and post a pic if they have it. If you read this thread, please participate and encourage others you know to do so too. It will help everyone, especially with the more custom wheels. Thanks in advance for your participation! :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Yea that would be great... I almost didnt want to ask becuase Im sure everyone and their brother has asked about wheel/tire combos... :slap:
Post some pics on that new thred everyone! :2thumbs:
Just put Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials on. 295/65/15 on 15x10's. They fit much better than the 325/50's that were on the car.
Rear.
Close.
need to swap em left/right to get the direction tread facing the correct direction.
They'll be on and off a couple of more times before spring. I didn't pay that much attention to them when I put them on. I just wanted to see what they'd look like.
Does anybody know of any one that makes a low profile tire with raised white lettering. Or what the smallest side wall is out there with (RWL).
My 71 with 17" Year One Rally Wheels. 17x8 front 255/50R17 Nitto 555 & 17x9 rear 295/45R17 Mickey Thompson. Huge improvement I think. ;) :)
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss108/jhowdle/1971%20SuperBee/0756_zpsff93bac4.jpg)
Quote from: khodne on January 18, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
Just put Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials on. 295/65/15 on 15x10's. They fit much better than the 325/50's that were on the car.
Khodne,
I'm debating on putting these on as well, if not too much trouble, can you post a pic of a side view of the whole car so I can see the stance? Also, what size do you have on front and did you use a 5.5" BS on the back?
thanks!
245/60/15's on 15x8's on the front and 295/65/15's on 15x10's with a 5.5 BS. Firefighter and MeFirst have some good pictures on here of their cars with the same setup.
A close up.
Quote from: khodne on February 24, 2013, 08:17:26 AM
245/60/15's on 15x8's on the front and 295/65/15's on 15x10's with a 5.5 BS. Firefighter and MeFirst have some good pictures on here of their cars with the same setup.
Thanks! :cheers: Thats a real good look you got there :2thumbs:
Man those 295/65's sure fill the wheel well!
Has anyone tried Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R 28X12R15 on the back and can share a pic?
thanks!
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss108/jhowdle/1971%20SuperBee/IMG_1475C_zps439bf994.jpg)
17x8" on the front and 17x9" on the rear. 255/50 Nitto 555 front and 295/45 Mickey Thompson rear.
Front 20x9 265-35-20
Rear 20x11 325-30-20
Rim offset 15mm front and rear
Spacer front 5mm rear 6mm
Quote from: Charger1968R/T on May 03, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
Rim offset 15mm front and rear
Spacer front 5mm rear 6mm
looks low & mean :yesnod: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
thanks, alot of work to get there !!!!!!
love this thread....
(http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/image.jpg) (http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/image)
(http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/1image.jpg) (http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/1image) hope you like it pat! /Adam
Great lookin R/T Adam :drool5: :2thumbs:
Quote from: AdamA on May 25, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
(http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/1image.jpg) (http://forumbilder.se/CEAJ9/1image) hope you like it pat! /Adam
Looks great! I think I'll run that same size.
Thanks for posting!
-Pat
AdamA, what are those wheels - who makes them? Looking nice!
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on new wheels and tires, but as usual I'm still unsure about sizes.
For example, I'm pretty much set on the diameter at 18", however I'm not sure about the width. I was guess-timating that with this nose-heavy 2nd Gen I should keep the wheels and tires up front not as wide, like maybe a 245? The stock tire width on my '99 F-bird is a 285 and it's a handful to turn sometimes, which I figure could only be worse with the Charger. So, if I have a 245 wide tire, what about the rim itself? Would it be an 18x7? 18x9?
I figure my rear wheels aren't as important, I'm "guessing" 18x9 wheels with a 285 tire width?
I just put 245/45r17 on the front and it drives a bit different then when it had the skinnies on there. There's nothing wrong with how it drives but you can notice the play in the steering wheel more and I have to work a bit harder at it to keep it straight when I stomp on it. My front rim is 8" wide.
I run a 275 on the rear which is 9.5" wide. I love the look because it's a high sidewall tire but likely your tires will be low profile. If you go too wide, the tire will look stretched, too narrow and it'll try to balloon which is a bad thing on a low profile. 9 should be pretty spot on.
Find out what the real width of rims and tires you want is. One brand to the next there can be quite the difference between two identical sizes.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,101768.0.html
Quote from: Brass on May 30, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
AdamA, what are those wheels - who makes them? Looking nice!
Street Lite (http://www.billetspecialties.com/wheels/street-lite/) made by Billet Specialties.
Quote from: myk on July 10, 2013, 02:37:54 PM
I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on new wheels and tires, but as usual I'm still unsure about sizes.
For example, I'm pretty much set on the diameter at 18", however I'm not sure about the width. I was guess-timating that with this nose-heavy 2nd Gen I should keep the wheels and tires up front not as wide, like maybe a 245? The stock tire width on my '99 F-bird is a 285 and it's a handful to turn sometimes, which I figure could only be worse with the Charger. So, if I have a 245 wide tire, what about the rim itself? Would it be an 18x7? 18x9?
I figure my rear wheels aren't as important, I'm "guessing" 18x9 wheels with a 285 tire width?
If you are looking at a 245 tire go with an 8" rim. I run a 245/40/18 on the front of mine and have absolutely no issues with rubbing or problems turning.
As for the rear, you can fit a 10" wide with up to a 295/40 without any modifications. Mine are 10" wide with a 285/40/18 with no problems.
What wheels are you thinking about getting?
Quote from: Dino on July 10, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
I just put 245/45r17 on the front and it drives a bit different then when it had the skinnies on there. There's nothing wrong with how it drives but you can notice the play in the steering wheel more and I have to work a bit harder at it to keep it straight when I stomp on it. My front rim is 8" wide.
I run a 275 on the rear which is 9.5" wide. I love the look because it's a high sidewall tire but likely your tires will be low profile. If you go too wide, the tire will look stretched, too narrow and it'll try to balloon which is a bad thing on a low profile. 9 should be pretty spot on.
Find out what the real width of rims and tires you want is. One brand to the next there can be quite the difference between two identical sizes.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,101768.0.html
Thank God for your thread; I've been agonizing over a wheel and tire selection since 1994 when I bought this damn car and coincidentally I narrowed it down to your wheels, the MB Old Schools, or the Replica Alloy's knock-off Torq Thrust D wheels. $1300 is a great price when all is said and done...
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on July 11, 2013, 03:50:13 PM
If you are looking at a 245 tire go with an 8" rim. I run a 245/40/18 on the front of mine and have absolutely no issues with rubbing or problems turning.
As for the rear, you can fit a 10" wide with up to a 295/40 without any modifications. Mine are 10" wide with a 285/40/18 with no problems.
What wheels are you thinking about getting?
Interesting. Would you happen to have a side view shot of your car?
So, 18x8 rim up front, and I guess I'll go with an 18x9 out back. I couldn't help but notice how pricey tires are for the rear like the ones you guys are running, though. Still not sure about the backspacing/offset measurements also...
Myk also look at the Coy C55, that's where MB got the design from. Notice the wider lip on my rear wheels, you can only get that with the MB 17x9.5. The 18" version is 9" wide and has the narrow lip like the front. I'm not sure how the Coys are.
My rear tire was around $140 each after rebate, that's not too terrible for the size. My wife's T/A tires are double that.
Quote from: myk on July 13, 2013, 06:15:06 AM
Interesting. Would you happen to have a side view shot of your car?
So, 18x8 rim up front, and I guess I'll go with an 18x9 out back. I couldn't help but notice how pricey tires are for the rear like the ones you guys are running, though. Still not sure about the backspacing/offset measurements also...
Here is a side shot from recently. My wheel measurements are fronts are 18x8 245/40/18 with a 4.75" backspace and the rears are 18x10 185/40/18 with a 5.5" backspace.
I think my rear tires were only like $20 bucks more for each. Not too bad. :shruggy:
:cheers:
Quote from: Dino on July 13, 2013, 08:29:36 AM
Myk also look at the Coy C55, that's where MB got the design from. Notice the wider lip on my rear wheels, you can only get that with the MB 17x9.5. The 18" version is 9" wide and has the narrow lip like the front. I'm not sure how the Coys are.
My rear tire was around $140 each after rebate, that's not too terrible for the size. My wife's T/A tires are double that.
No it isn't too bad of a price, maybe my timing is just off with no rebates or specials going on as of now. I will definitely go with the MB's like yours or the Replica Alloy's Torq-Thrust knock-off in gunmetal.
What sort of T/A are we talking about? My WS6 clone has the factory 17" wheels and I spent about $600 on a set of Hankook's, which I happen to like ALOT...
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on July 14, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
Here is a side shot from recently. My wheel measurements are fronts are 18x8 245/40/18 with a 4.75" backspace and the rears are 18x10 185/40/18 with a 5.5" backspace.
I think my rear tires were only like $20 bucks more for each. Not too bad. :shruggy:
Thanks for the picture, that helps a lot and your car is awesome, BTW.
I think part of my problem is that I'm dealing strictly with Discount Tire; I trust them implicitly with my wheel/tire needs and maybe it's time to go somewhere else. Although, I've been thinking about wheels and tires for so long I might just pull the trigger regardless of the quality of the deal.
Question: asides from "looking better" is there an actual performance benefit to having a wider rear tire than the front? My two F bodies and Mustang have the same wheel width on all corners and they seem to run just fine.
Another question: both of you boys have the air dam-thingy under your cars; what is that and where can I get one for my car?
Myk the T/A is an '02 WS6 Ram Air, one of the last to roll off the line. It's running Good Years now, I'll take a look at the Hankook's.
The same size wheel and tire all around is always the best when it comes to performance. A staggered look actually hurts it but you'd have to race the car to notice. For a street car it's fine as long as you don't go too crazy with sizes. My current setup gives the car a much better and stable feel than it did with the stock 14" rims.
The spoiler is for a '69 Camaro. Find the one that comes with the brackets. There is a long bracket that comes with it that when you flatten one end fits perfectly between spoiler and K member. The whole thing was something like $40, I forgot where I got mine, some online Chevy shop. If I can find it I'll post it. Mine is the plain black plastic they come in, W&R's is painted white.
Found it. I got the spoiler from Ground Up and you're in luck, they have a sale going on! $30 for spoiler and brackets.
http://www.ss396.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=camaro6769&Product_Code=MSK-69F
Note that the spoiler in the picture is the higher model from the 67 models but it should be the smaller one. You may want to email them to make sure you get the one you want. NYCMille is running the tall one on his 68 btw.
IF I still have the packaging I'll post the part number.
.
I also run the larger diameter wheels. Custom made Boyd Shrike wheels with Nitto 555 tires.
Front- 17X8 with 4.5" backspace. Tires 245 40 17.
Rear- 18X10 with 5.5" backspace. Tires 285 40 18.
I do not get any rubs anywhere. My stance is just like Claytons car. You can go wider tires if you do some "work" on the rear wheel wells.
Quote from: Dino on July 14, 2013, 08:42:42 AM
Myk the T/A is an '02 WS6 Ram Air, one of the last to roll off the line. It's running Good Years now, I'll take a look at the Hankook's.
The same size wheel and tire all around is always the best when it comes to performance. A staggered look actually hurts it but you'd have to race the car to notice. For a street car it's fine as long as you don't go too crazy with sizes. My current setup gives the car a much better and stable feel than it did with the stock 14" rims.
The spoiler is for a '69 Camaro. Find the one that comes with the brackets. There is a long bracket that comes with it that when you flatten one end fits perfectly between spoiler and K member. The whole thing was something like $40, I forgot where I got mine, some online Chevy shop. If I can find it I'll post it. Mine is the plain black plastic they come in, W&R's is painted white.
Wow ok thanks, I didn't know that, although the Corvette since.......'97 (?) has run a staggered wheel setup so I figure it shouldn't hurt our cars too much, right? Regarding your wife's T/A, if you're running Good Year I wouldn't bother with the Hankooks-I went with them because they were cheaper and had a decent warranty with them, about 40K.
Thanks for the lead on the air dam-now I can get the Charger stuck on the same speed bumps and curbs that my '99 T/A and '97Z's airdams get stuck on, lol...
Hey MYK,
I ran 17X7's in the front but I would have liked to go with 17X8's however the 7's were discounted enough to justify going with them. The width I'm running handles great and the lower profile sidewall eliminates a lot of roll in the corners. I'm really happy with it.
If it wasn't for Discount Tire I wouldn't have even known about the tires I have on the car right now. The tread pattern alone adds such an amazing aspect to the look of the car that it wouldn't even be the same car now if I had to replace them with something else. I owe it to the guys at Discount Tire for bringing the KDW 2's to my attention.
I know a lot of people running 18X8's in front with no issues. I think you'd be happy with that. I think you'll love that handling improvement too, especially if you've gone through the front end. But as mentioned before, if your dealing with some big HP your may get a little squirly when you're really into the throttle because you're running on the corners of the tires.
Good luck and I look forward to seeing what you end up doing! :)
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on July 17, 2013, 10:42:14 PM
Hey MYK,
I ran 17X7's in the front but I would have liked to go with 17X8's however the 7's were discounted enough to justify going with them. The width I'm running handles great and the lower profile sidewall eliminates a lot of roll in the corners. I'm really happy with it.
If it wasn't for Discount Tire I wouldn't have even known about the tires I have on the car right now. The tread pattern alone adds such an amazing aspect to the look of the car that it wouldn't even be the same car now if I had to replace them with something else. I owe it to the guys at Discount Tire for bringing the KDW 2's to my attention.
I know a lot of people running 18X8's in front with no issues. I think you'd be happy with that. I think you'll love that handling improvement too, especially if you've gone through the front end. But as mentioned before, if your dealing with some big HP your may get a little squirly when you're really into the throttle because you're running on the corners of the tires.
Good luck and I look forward to seeing what you end up doing! :)
Hmmm...17x7's? What width of a tire did you run? 245? What are your sizes now? Nice car btw...
Thanks a lot! My tires are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. I essentially had two choices for tires front and back because of the 17 by 7 wheels in front and going with the KDW 2's in order to maintain at least the same size side wall front and back with the KDW 2's. It would have looked ridiculous if I ended up with less sidewall in the back. That's one thing everyone should keep in mind, subtract the wheel diameter from the tire diameter both front and back to make sure your rears don't end up with less sidewall than up front. Wide tires are sexy but not if they fail to coordinate with the fronts.
:Twocents:
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on July 18, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
Thanks a lot! My tires are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. I essentially had two choices for tires front and back because of the 17 by 7 wheels in front and going with the KDW 2's in order to maintain at least the same size side wall front and back with the KDW 2's. It would have looked ridiculous if I ended up with less sidewall in the back. That's one thing everyone should keep in mind, subtract the wheel diameter from the tire diameter both front and back to make sure your rears don't end up with less sidewall than up front. Wide tires are sexy but not if they fail to coordinate with the fronts.
:Twocents:
Ok thanks for the heads up, but....you wouldn't get less sidewall in the back unless the aspect ratio number (40, 45, etc) in the back was smaller than the front, right? If you don't mind would you be able to post a side shot of your car? Not only do I want a better look but I want to see how a setup with a smaller front diameter looks. Is your car at the stock ride height?
Quote from: myk on July 23, 2013, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on July 18, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
Thanks a lot! My tires are 235/45R17's and 275/40R18's. I essentially had two choices for tires front and back because of the 17 by 7 wheels in front and going with the KDW 2's in order to maintain at least the same size side wall front and back with the KDW 2's. It would have looked ridiculous if I ended up with less sidewall in the back. That's one thing everyone should keep in mind, subtract the wheel diameter from the tire diameter both front and back to make sure your rears don't end up with less sidewall than up front. Wide tires are sexy but not if they fail to coordinate with the fronts.
:Twocents:
Ok thanks for the heads up, but....you wouldn't get less sidewall in the back unless the aspect ratio number (40, 45, etc) in the back was smaller than the front, right? If you don't mind would you be able to post a side shot of your car? Not only do I want a better look but I want to see how a setup with a smaller front diameter looks. Is your car at the stock ride height?
The numbers don't compare like that. If you take the ratio of the front vs ratio of the rear, the rear still has more sidewall. 40% of 275 is more than 45% of 235.
Ok thanks for explaining that; you really can learn something everyday. I didn't know that the aspect ratio number was a percentage of the width of the tire, I thought it was just a "number," that referred to the measurement from the rim to the tread itself, lol. Forgive my ignorance, I'm the only Asian on the planet that's bad at math...
Quote from: Charger1968R/T on May 03, 2013, 03:17:12 PM
Front 20x9 265-35-20
Rear 20x11 325-30-20
how did you fit 11inch wide rims in there I thought 10 was the most you could do?
Hey Guys - Got a question. Looking at the American Eagle rims (111 series, gunmetal), basically a Torque Thrust II. But I'm a little worried on the BS stuff. The fronts would be 15x7 with 3.85 BS with zero offset, the rears would be 15x8 3.966 BS with -12 offset. I'm a little worried about the rears, the fronts I think will be fine. Tire size is 275/65/15 rear and I think it's 245/55/15 front :scratchchin:, maybe not, but Im 100% sure on the rears.
Think I will have tire rub issues in the rear? The front I believe is the same specs that I have on the car now which I dont think will be a problem.
Figured i'd add input as i just put on new wheels and tires on the charger's rear set. I bought American Racing AR500 17x11 (magnum 500 style) with a 5.5" backspace (not sure what the offset if any was) and installed Nitto 555R 315 35x17s on them. The wheels fit the width of the wheelwell just fine, the sidewall is a bit lower than the L50-15 bias ply's that have been on the car forever....or the last 35 years, but do clear the outer lip of the wheelwell, and have decent clearance on the inside. The Nittos were chosen because of their width and a past preference to the 555 line of tires. For anyone who is considering 17x11 magnum 500s (as the first poster mentioned), I'd keep them as a possibility, the appear to fit just fine on my car. I don't expect it to actually use this rubber anytime soon except to support the vehicle, but now i can consider what to get for the front set. 17x8s would probably be the best bet for me.
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This shot should show the position of the tire while mounted and sitting without support, sorry i couldn't get a side view, i was blocked, did the best i could with what i have, when i get the fronts i will get a better picture. The wheels are inside the lip of the fender, I may have to lower mine a little to reduce the gap of the lower profile tire, I'll worry about that later, today the wall of rubber in back is impressive to see.
PBBBBBB........... :brickwall:
Ok, after much deliberation I'm sure I want to go Dino's route and get the MB Old School wheels that he has:
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...but in 18" size. Problem is, according to 'Discount the only wheels they have available for me would be the 18" with 4.5" backspacing for both front AND back-I guess there's no 5.5" backspacing in 18" for that wheel, on my car.
What do you guys think? Will 4.5" stick the wheel out too far in the rearon my car? 4.5" backspacing is good on the front, right? Also, since I'm not going to stagger this setup, what profile tire should I get? I'm being told that an 245/45-18 is the perfect size. Wouldn't that be too tall? Wouldn't a 245/40-18 be better? I dunno.... :shruggy:
Myk, be aware that ONLY the 17 x 9.5 has the wide machined lip, all others look like my front wheels.
I have 4.5 bs on the front and 5.5 on the back but 5.5 is too much. The rear should be 5 or maybe even 4.5 but yeah it will get damn close with the latter, if not touching. Lookup my before I start thread and see what the 5.5 did to my wheel wells. Nothing major but just so you know.
245/45 18 is roughly 26.7" tall and 245/40 is only 25.7. That's less than stock.
My rear tire is 275/50 17 and is almost 28" tall. For an even look having all the same tires I would get the 245/45 or maybe look into a 255/45 at just over 27" tall. The bs on the front will have to be dead on though so hopefully the 255 wide tire owners can chime in on their backspacing. Why do I not see the bs on the discount tire website??
U got any side pics? Yours looks stock height?
Quote from: Lord Warlock on August 24, 2013, 05:38:27 PM
Figured i'd add input as i just put on new wheels and tires on the charger's rear set. I bought American Racing AR500 17x11 (magnum 500 style) with a 5.5" backspace (not sure what the offset if any was) and installed Nitto 555R 315 35x17s on them. The wheels fit the width of the wheelwell just fine, the sidewall is a bit lower than the L50-15 bias ply's that have been on the car forever....or the last 35 years, but do clear the outer lip of the wheelwell, and have decent clearance on the inside. The Nittos were chosen because of their width and a past preference to the 555 line of tires. For anyone who is considering 17x11 magnum 500s (as the first poster mentioned), I'd keep them as a possibility, the appear to fit just fine on my car. I don't expect it to actually use this rubber anytime soon except to support the vehicle, but now i can consider what to get for the front set. 17x8s would probably be the best bet for me.
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This shot should show the position of the tire while mounted and sitting without support, sorry i couldn't get a side view, i was blocked, did the best i could with what i have, when i get the fronts i will get a better picture. The wheels are inside the lip of the fender, I may have to lower mine a little to reduce the gap of the lower profile tire, I'll worry about that later, today the wall of rubber in back is impressive to see.
Quote from: Dino on August 30, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
Myk, be aware that ONLY the 17 x 9.5 has the wide machined lip, all others look like my front wheels.
I have 4.5 bs on the front and 5.5 on the back but 5.5 is too much. The rear should be 5 or maybe even 4.5 but yeah it will get damn close with the latter, if not touching. Lookup my before I start thread and see what the 5.5 did to my wheel wells. Nothing major but just so you know.
245/45 18 is roughly 26.7" tall and 245/40 is only 25.7. That's less than stock.
My rear tire is 275/50 17 and is almost 28" tall. For an even look having all the same tires I would get the 245/45 or maybe look into a 255/45 at just over 27" tall. The bs on the front will have to be dead on though so hopefully the 255 wide tire owners can chime in on their backspacing. Why do I not see the bs on the discount tire website??
Well in that case the 4.5" backspacing should be fine for the rear then; you have 4.5" backspacing on your fronts so my car should look like yours, the only difference being the diameter. I've learned that Discount shows offset, not backspacing; I had to use a backspacing/offset calculator to try and convert their offset numbers into backspacing.
Wait a minute. If backspacing measures the distance from the mounting point to the inner wheel surface then my 18x8 wheel with 4.5" backspacing will be tucked in further into the car than your 17x9.5 wheel with 5.5" backspacing. At this rate if I really want that style of wheel I might have to go with the 17's.
:brickwall:
BTW what is the stock height of a stock 14" wheel and tire?
Quote from: myk on August 30, 2013, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: Dino on August 30, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
Myk, be aware that ONLY the 17 x 9.5 has the wide machined lip, all others look like my front wheels.
I have 4.5 bs on the front and 5.5 on the back but 5.5 is too much. The rear should be 5 or maybe even 4.5 but yeah it will get damn close with the latter, if not touching. Lookup my before I start thread and see what the 5.5 did to my wheel wells. Nothing major but just so you know.
245/45 18 is roughly 26.7" tall and 245/40 is only 25.7. That's less than stock.
My rear tire is 275/50 17 and is almost 28" tall. For an even look having all the same tires I would get the 245/45 or maybe look into a 255/45 at just over 27" tall. The bs on the front will have to be dead on though so hopefully the 255 wide tire owners can chime in on their backspacing. Why do I not see the bs on the discount tire website??
Well in that case the 4.5" backspacing should be fine for the rear then; you have 4.5" backspacing on your fronts so my car should look like yours, the only difference being the diameter. I've learned that Discount shows offset, not backspacing; I had to use a backspacing/offset calculator to try and convert their offset numbers into backspacing.
Wait a minute. If backspacing measures the distance from the mounting point to the inner wheel surface then my 18x8 wheel with 4.5" backspacing will be tucked in further into the car than your 17x9.5 wheel with 5.5" backspacing. The 17x9.5 Old School that you have is no longer available, btw...
:brickwall:
No you're fine. The more backspacing, the deeper the wheel moves inward. Less backspacing means that the distance between wheel hub and axle is shorter so the distance between axle and outside of the rim is larger. A 4.5 bs will stick out more and thus closer to the fender lip than a 5.5 will.
My front tires are only 245 wide so I think you should be fine with that or a 255 in the rear with 4.5 bs. My 275 with 4.5, that may be a problem but nothing a little tweaking can't fix. I would love to bring my rear tires out about a half inch, that would be spot on and stop the rubbing, although that is rare to happen.
The 17x9.5 Chrome wheel is on the site. When I first found the wheels on the dt site they had chrome and the gunmetal ones I have so I printed off the sheet for the latter. A week later they were off the site so I went to my local dt and they punched the number in the computer and found dozens. If the discontinued them , they are still available. Just go to or call dt and ask for the 17x9.5 in gunmetal. It's still available I'm sure.
Myk,
Huh i just had my 14 inch magnums on could of told ya.
As for the 4.5 rear backspace yes it's closer to the inner car from what i understand my magnums are 4.5 bs and man it makes the car swallow the tire/rim combo.
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Quote from: Dino on August 30, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: myk on August 30, 2013, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: Dino on August 30, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
Myk, be aware that ONLY the 17 x 9.5 has the wide machined lip, all others look like my front wheels.
I have 4.5 bs on the front and 5.5 on the back but 5.5 is too much. The rear should be 5 or maybe even 4.5 but yeah it will get damn close with the latter, if not touching. Lookup my before I start thread and see what the 5.5 did to my wheel wells. Nothing major but just so you know.
245/45 18 is roughly 26.7" tall and 245/40 is only 25.7. That's less than stock.
My rear tire is 275/50 17 and is almost 28" tall. For an even look having all the same tires I would get the 245/45 or maybe look into a 255/45 at just over 27" tall. The bs on the front will have to be dead on though so hopefully the 255 wide tire owners can chime in on their backspacing. Why do I not see the bs on the discount tire website??
Well in that case the 4.5" backspacing should be fine for the rear then; you have 4.5" backspacing on your fronts so my car should look like yours, the only difference being the diameter. I've learned that Discount shows offset, not backspacing; I had to use a backspacing/offset calculator to try and convert their offset numbers into backspacing.
Wait a minute. If backspacing measures the distance from the mounting point to the inner wheel surface then my 18x8 wheel with 4.5" backspacing will be tucked in further into the car than your 17x9.5 wheel with 5.5" backspacing. The 17x9.5 Old School that you have is no longer available, btw...
:brickwall:
No you're fine. The more backspacing, the deeper the wheel moves inward. Less backspacing means that the distance between wheel hub and axle is shorter so the distance between axle and outside of the rim is larger. A 4.5 bs will stick out more and thus closer to the fender lip than a 5.5 will.
My front tires are only 245 wide so I think you should be fine with that or a 255 in the rear with 4.5 bs. My 275 with 4.5, that may be a problem but nothing a little tweaking can't fix. I would love to bring my rear tires out about a half inch, that would be spot on and stop the rubbing, although that is rare to happen.
The 17x9.5 Chrome wheel is on the site. When I first found the wheels on the dt site they had chrome and the gunmetal ones I have so I printed off the sheet for the latter. A week later they were off the site so I went to my local dt and they punched the number in the computer and found dozens. If the discontinued them , they are still available. Just go to or call dt and ask for the 17x9.5 in gunmetal. It's still available I'm sure.
Dino thanks for the follow-up; it seems you're right, for some reason my internet-fu wasn't working right and I didn't see it. Well, I'm PROBABLY going to go with the MB Old Schools in 18x8, 4.5" backspacing/0 offset, with a 245/45-18 tire on all corners, unless you guys have anything else to suggest. I feel stupid paying what I am for the tires considering the car will get MAYBE 2,000 miles on it in a year, but oh well...
Buy used tires with 50% thread left.....that be half price or so.
I don't have side pics yet, the blue car on the right is in the way right now, when i can move the car out of the way I'll take side pics of the charger. I doubt they are stock height in the back, I need to put the old wheels next to the new wheels and check the difference.
Well I finally pulled that trigger: 18x8 MB Old School wheels, 4.5" backspacing/0 offset, 245/45-18 rubber; let's see if I hit the mark. :shruggy:
nice...im sure they gonna look good...no matter what anyone saids :2thumbs:
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on August 31, 2013, 02:50:56 PM
nice...im sure they gonna look good...no matter what anyone saids :2thumbs:
Assuming everything fits and works properly I'll post up some 'pics ASAP; might get the wheel/tire package in a week or so.
-Wait a minute. Those of you running aftermarket wheels, did the aftermarket lugs have a left-hand thread set? Our cars have left-hand threads on one side, right?
The original lugs on our cars are LH on the Left side, and RH on the right. Thats gonna change when i put the new rotor on the left side tomorrow, as it uses RH on both rotors for the front brakes. When i ordered new lugs recently they sent 20 lugs in a bag in the mail, think they are all RH threaded, were supposed to be half RH and half LH, but think i got snookered... then again i ordered those before i ordered the new rotors and now it makes more sense to just replace the rear left with RH threaded studs, two are already out of the axle.
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on August 30, 2013, 04:49:37 PM
Myk,
Huh i just had my 14 inch magnums on could of told ya.
As for the 4.5 rear backspace yes it's closer to the inner car from what i understand my magnums are 4.5 bs and man it makes the car swallow the tire/rim combo.
I'm "guessing" that 14" wheels and matching tires on an otherwise stock '69 Charger is about 26.1" in overall tire height. The wanna-be Vector's with the 245/60-15 I'm running right now are at 26.6" in height. The wheel and tire setup I just ordered will come in at 26.7" in height. It didn't occur to me that my new setup will fill the exact same space in the wheel well, just with a different rim diameter...
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First wheel is on, now I have to stop and think....
Take the wheel well lip moulding off or leave it on? What do you guys say?
i say take it off just me since you have a black rim if it was chrome then leave it on.
lookin nice bro seems you and i are working at the same pace on wheels/rims :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on September 07, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
i say take it off just me since you have a black rim if it was chrome then leave it on.
lookin nice bro seems you and i are working at the same pace on wheels/rims :icon_smile_big:
I saw that-looks like you're coming along rather well also...
I looked at your pic again and I know like it with the chrome piece.... :icon_smile_big:
take it off, take another pic and post them both side by side so we can tell you which one WE like on YOUR car
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on September 08, 2013, 09:04:47 AM
I looked at your pic again and I know like it with the chrome piece.... :icon_smile_big:
But, but....you said to take it off! Lol. Obviously I can't decide either.
Quote from: mauve66 on September 08, 2013, 10:53:43 AM
take it off, take another pic and post them both side by side so we can tell you which one WE like on YOUR car
That's the plan! Stupid as it may sound I'm going to remove one side and leave it that way until I make up my damn mind...
Quote from: myk on September 07, 2013, 06:29:53 PM
Take the wheel well lip moulding off or leave it on? What do you guys say?
I say buy another Charger without it, there you go one with and one without. Best of both worlds.
Quote from: Mopar Nut on September 08, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: myk on September 07, 2013, 06:29:53 PM
Take the wheel well lip moulding off or leave it on? What do you guys say?
I say buy another Charger without it, there you go one with and one with. Best of both worlds.
No. I am never going through this old-car song and dance again. Like marriage and kids, once is enough for this life and the one after it...
I agree definitely off
Quote from: TXcharger70 on September 08, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
I agree definitely off
Thank you! I'm going to try taking them off tomorrow and seeing how it hits me.
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Thank you!
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Thank you!
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I want to thank everyone in DC.com, especially in this thread, as well as a special salute to Dino for finally helping me decide on the wheels and tires; much like the rest of the car I wouldn't have accomplished this without all of your input. What else is there to say? I've loved this car since I bought it 19 years ago, but seeing it as it is now I'm definitely in love again...
Bye bye old wheels! Thanks for 20 years of service and timeless memories!
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Now...What do you guys think about a non-R/T tail stripe? :scratchchin:
I like the R/T tail stripe, but again, it looks good without too.
Quote from: Mopar Nut on September 09, 2013, 09:29:49 AM
I like the R/T tail stripe, but again, it looks good without too.
I agree. I am not a fan of the non-R/T tail stripes.
I wish there was a way you could put something like a stripe on temporarily, like a vinyl decal or something. Like you guys, I think it looks good with and without...
A little too much orange in my book. I'm in the same boat though not having a vinyl top to set off the main color. How about a pinstripe just along the top of the fenders and quarters? I seen a newer orange Charger that had the pinstripes on it in black and didn't look too bad. :popcrn:
Personally, I'm tired of seeing R/T stripes on almost every car.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2013, 03:26:54 PM
A little too much orange in my book. I'm in the same boat though not having a vinyl top to set off the main color. How about a pinstripe just along the top of the fenders and quarters? I seen a newer orange Charger that had the pinstripes on it in black and didn't look too bad. :popcrn:
Personally, I'm tired of seeing R/T stripes on almost every car.
I saw a Year One 'ad in one of the first pages of a recent Mopar 'mag; it featured a rendered '69 in burnt orange, with a black vinyl top, black R/T stripe, black wheels and a hood with some black on it. I figured it was too much black on the car, but it did inspire me to think about breaking up the "too much orange" on my own car...
Wheels look sweet myk! :drool5:
I'd lose the wheel moldings though. :Twocents:
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 11, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
Wheels look sweet myk! :drool5:
I'd lose the wheel moldings though. :Twocents:
DONE! Thanks guys!
Quote from: myk on September 11, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 11, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
Wheels look sweet myk! :drool5:
I'd lose the wheel moldings though. :Twocents:
DONE! Thanks guys!
they will be back on in 3 weeks....
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on September 11, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: myk on September 11, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 11, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
Wheels look sweet myk! :drool5:
I'd lose the wheel moldings though. :Twocents:
DONE! Thanks guys!
they will be back on in 3 weeks....
I don't think it looks bad with them on but with the dark wheels I think it would just look cleaner going right into the orange without the chrome breaking it up.
Kinda like the year one charger, it just looks clean without em on certain colors.
damn, i need to buy those lowering blocks to get into the wheel like like that...
oh u know eventually we all want to change the look of our cars lol.....i plan to buy 15 inch steelies eventually.
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 11, 2013, 05:01:30 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on September 11, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: myk on September 11, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 11, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
Wheels look sweet myk! :drool5:
I'd lose the wheel moldings though. :Twocents:
DONE! Thanks guys!
they will be back on in 3 weeks....
I don't think it looks bad with them on but with the dark wheels I think it would just look cleaner going right into the orange without the chrome breaking it up.
Kinda like the year one charger, it just looks clean without em on certain colors.
Speaking of lowering blocks, I'll probably need those once I install new leafs-I'm sure the car's JUST RIGHT in stance because of dead springs lol. Once the new leafs go in I'm sure that rear end is going into the skies.
As for the wheel moulding/trim, they're staying off... :icon_smile_wink
Finally, wow-I didn't know about the Year One Charger. I really dig that darker orange...
Hello guys, Have a 69 B.B. charger, would you guys happen to know what the widest tire that would fit rear tucked in the wheel well without tubbing, car will sit level front to rear, like DeAngelo halls 69 charger, yearone car, I'm sure his was tubbed, maybe?. Thanks guys. Pat
Ah ah ah! No help from us until you post pictures of your car!
Lol, just kidding man, although we do want to see what you've got.
In any case, I think guys in here are putting as large a 295's on their cars, someone correct me if I'm wrong. What diameter rim will you be running?
I've got 315zr17s on my rear wheels (17x11 5.5bs) and they fit without rubbing, its close though, if the backspace was off it wouldn't fit.
Jesus! That's a freaking tire!
The lower profile makes it easier to fit, it isn't as tall as the 15s that were on it before, think i'll go with a 245/45 on the front, I'd like a little more sidewall than the rears. Nittos tend to run a little narrow for the size, and they are street DRs (N555R). I'm hoping to get N555 regulars for the front. I have to decide soon since the wheels will arrive tomorrow. I plan to remove the 15 inch bfg's on the front and use it on the spare wheel, a 15 inch chrome original magnum 500 that came with the car.
time for me to donate to the thread now.
295/45/20 BFG KDW and fronts are 245/45/18. The rims are 20x10 and 18x8 I think a 18x9.5 would of fit and looked better, but I read somewhere that having a too wide of a tire for these does not good for the turns??? I got a bottom out on the driver rear when i was turning I hit a mini pothole and heard my tire hit and stopped to check her and sure enough I got a minor scrap on the outer tire overall she does great if I didnt hit the pothole.
Hotchis setup leaf spring and shocks and torsion bars.
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Nice looking car :2thumbs: I did a double take on the front bumper.
my new shoes AR tourq thrust 2 17X8 front and 18X8 rear with nitto motivo tires 225/55 front and 245/55 rear.
one more
last one
Quote from: XH29N0G on October 13, 2013, 07:59:34 AM
Nice looking car :2thumbs: I did a double take on the front bumper.
They come in Thursday :lol:
nice topic :cheers: where i fine a V-48s wheels vintage?? i like this for my car.
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on December 13, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
nice topic :cheers: where i fine a V-48s wheels vintage?? i like this for my car.
Here is Patronus's 69 with the V-48s in 17's. Looks awesome.
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on December 13, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on December 13, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
nice topic :cheers: where i fine a V-48s wheels vintage?? i like this for my car.
Here is Patronus's 69 with the V-48s in 17's. Looks awesome.
thank you is iit ok with unmodify body? WITH 17x7 et back spacer 3-3/4 ??
I'd go wider than the 7" rim. These chargers have plenty of room to add a wider tire. Go with an 8" front try to get as close to 4.5" backspace as you can. The back can fit up to a 10" wide with a 5.5" backspace with no modifications depending on tire size. :cheers:
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on December 16, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
I'd go wider than the 7" rim. These chargers have plenty of room to add a wider tire. Go with an 8" front try to get as close to 4.5" backspace as you can. The back can fit up to a 10" wide with a 5.5" backspace with no modifications depending on tire size. :cheers:
thank you for your explication :cheers:
Hi Guys, I see no one has written on here for a while, but i figured I'd throw a couple questions out there. I'm looking for 18" wheels, 15" dont do it for me. I want at least 10" wide in the back and 8 in the front. Can anyone tell me a good site to buy aftermarket wheels that don't look like different versions of wheels from the 70's or 80's? I'm looking for a modern pro-touring look with a polished black surface and chrome lip. I love the rims on the year one charger but those suckers are 1200$ a pop. While I'm willing to pay for a custom wheel, that's a little ridiculous. I did find a nice wheel at Mickey Thompson but the Offset and backspacing looks like it wont work. 28 x 10.5 with 6.5 back space and 21mm offset. I think that means almost a 1" positive offset which would put that rim into the stock fender well. what do you guys think? any recommendations on where to buy a better sized wheel? Will that mickey Thompson work?
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=StreetComp
Quote from: SFRT on October 29, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
I'm running 'plain steelies' 7 x 15 wheels in front and 10 x 15 in back. no problems. stock offset...and I have ssb discs set up on all 4. got my wheels from wheels vintiques.
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I will be going to a larger diameter tire ..probably Hoosier 295/60D/15s in the rear. right now ts a 295/50/15
Would you happen to know what the stock offset is?
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on December 13, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on December 13, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
nice topic :cheers: where i fine a V-48s wheels vintage?? i like this for my car.
Here is Patronus's 69 with the V-48s in 17's. Looks awesome.
i have one probleme i would buy this rims or sell didn t give to me one reponce for shipping in France :'( have you got one idea for me?
Well finally my turn to reach this point :icon_smile_big:
I just ordered some new shoes for the 68 Charger. Questions is will they fit!
Front: 17x7 with 225/50/r17
Rear: 17x8 with 275/50/r17
Anybody see any fitment issues here? I don't want any rub or bottom out.
if you have the proper backspace, no problem. Those wheels are pretty little.
I'd agree. In front you should have no concerns at all unless you have some huge custom calipers or something and not enough clearance. I really doubt you need to worry though. As for the back, as long as you have the right backspacing your golden. If you look at some of the first posts I put up on this thread, my 15's were about a foot wide and 295 tall I think. They were huge. Granted I had air shocks at the time but they were fine no matter what. If I was loaded down heavy, maybe. Let's say if were picking up chicks, I would just have to make sure none of them tipped the scales! ;)
Your concerns will be completely eliminated if you go onto the site we posted earlier in this thread. It shows the location of the tires/wheels in the back of the Charger (Gen II) and allows you to change your perimeters as fits your purchase. That thing was as good as gold for me! Oh... I just went to the page and see he took it down. I have sent an email to him and asked if he'd be willing to put it up again. I'll keep everyone informed if I hear back from him.
So, with that said, I'd say go to the 2nd page of this thread and use the graph and detail that DKN1997 posted. That's perfect. The key is to keep your mounting surface centered in the wheel and your tire will be too. I think you're safe, if you do that, up until about 12.5" wide. At that point you're very close to the fender lip and the frame rail/leaf springs.
I'm going off memory here so if I'm wrong, please someone correct me because I don't want him to have any issues! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Last thing, congrats on getting to this point. I know it's exciting. Everyone of us has been there and I was jumping out of my skin when I got mine! Hope it turns out well!
Mark
Great news everyone! I was able to contact the guy who had the vexer wheel and tire selection tool up online and he was willing to put it back online for us! We should be very grateful he was willing to do so without requiring money or anything! Sending out a big thanks! :2thumbs: :cheers:
So, here it is again! Enjoy! http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/wheelguide
Quote from: BLUE68RT4ME on April 11, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Great news everyone! I was able to contact the guy who had the vexer wheel and tire selection tool up online and he was willing to put it back online for us! We should be very grateful he was willing to do so without requiring money or anything! Sending out a big thanks! :2thumbs: :cheers:
So, here it is again! Enjoy! http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/wheelguide
:2thumbs:
AMEN! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
i change my rims
these wheels are ROTA RKR (drift wheels) in 17x8.5 off set -10 mm my tires in front 225/40/17 in good yers eagle F1 and my rears tyres are 255/40/17 in continantale sport 3
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/361594arota11.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=361594arota11.jpg)
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Not sure if this has been posted. I found this to be helpful when trying to calculate for my new tires. I checked it against some BFG's that I had on my 71 and found that the tires were only 1/8" wider than what this program showed.
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
This is cool too.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php
lets you look at both tires side by side in side view.
Will 15x8's with 4 1/4 back spacing and 235 60 15 fit on the front with no rubbing issues ?car is a 69 with drums , going with crager s/s rim.
I put 18X8's with a 4.5" backspace and 245 35 rubber on. And there was no problem with that.
I looked for over two months at all these wheel threads. Have chrome mags on my other two Chargers so I needed something different. Thought about going all black but a photochop didn't look good. Ended up with the American Racing Vectors. 15x8.5 with 275/60's on the back. 15x8 with 235/60's on the front. Probably could have gone 295/60 on the back but didn't want to push it. And- NO, I'm not a DOH fan. Not a fan of the 18's on old muscle and the engine build blew my budget. Wheel package cost me $1,400.00. couldn't justify spending that on just one wheel/tire.
Looks great!!! :cheers: :yesnod:
Nice!!!!!!!!
Here are a few of mine..
And another
last one
:cheers: Looks great Comet :cheers:
What tire sizes you running?
Did you get the rears widened to 10.5" like you were talking about?
Thanks NH!
They are 295/50/15
I really was going to get them widened but I like the way they look right now.
Gots my new wheels!!!! :coolgleamA:
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Don't mind the fact that I haven't washed the car yet. They're working on the road here and its f'ed
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I like those! The whole combo works real well!
I went dirt cheap summit wheels, 1973 non-SE, 15x8 with 4" bs up front 255/60R15 they fit perfect. In back I have 15x10 with 4" bs and 295/60r15, I'm a full inch out from under the qp. I intend to find a pair of 15x9 with 4.5" bs to fix the issue.
i finally did it so I figured I would post up here in case it could do anyone else any good in the future.
My fronts are 18x8 wheels with 4.5" backspace and a +2 offset with 245 45 18 tires.
My rears are 18x9.5 wheels with a 5" backspace and -4 offset with 285 40 18 tires.
Everything fits perfect. I think it looks good, there are no rubbing issues at all lock to lock, bumps, inclines, anything I have encountered.
The car is on a Hotchkis / Firmfeel suspension that lowered it pretty well also so that affects fit and look.
I did not add photos because the photo is in the signature, but I suppose they may not always be. So here is a before and after (both pics on the lower suspension).
What brand and model of wheel are you running?
Quote from: 505charger on September 21, 2014, 10:26:19 AM
What brand and model of wheel are you running?
Boss 338's
http://www.bossmotorsports.com/custom_chrome_wheels.cfm?id=1920&cat=466
So much better in my opinion. Very nice!
Thank you!
I agree! :2thumbs: Good choice. :cheers:
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Got 15x8 4,5"rear spacing and 15x10 5" inch rear spacing
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Hautala/DSC_09041.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Hautala/media/DSC_09041.jpg.html)
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I think that the rims fit well ;D Tires are 245 in front and 295/50 cooper cobra in rear.
Hello everyone! I have read this entire thread and still have a few questions on wheel/tire fitment.
Wondering if the below will work on a 68 Charger with no modifications other than those listed below.
Stock wheel wells front and rear
PST 2 in drop spindles with the Willwood disc brake upgrade on front
1 in drop rear leafs
stock 8 3/4 rear with drums
Here is the wheel/tire combo I am thinking about
Circle racing series 94 billet magnum 500s
17 x 7 front with 4.5 in bs
18 x 9.5 rear with 5 in bs
Diamond back classics redlines (Nitto 555s)
255/50/17s front
295/45/18s rear
any thoughts or other recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
EDIT: Got this figured out I think. ordered wheels and tires a few days ago!
Quote from: NHCharger on May 11, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
And- NO, I'm not a DOH fan..
I'm a huge DOH fan, so I think it looks great!!!
Hey guys,
My car is in the body shop right now and leaving soon. I want to throw some wheels and tires on it before it leaves.
I'm going with the Billet Specialties SLG60 wheel.
Front - 17x8" (backspace offered: minimum/4025, maximum/6.125)
Rear - 17x10" (backspace offered: minimum/4.25, maximum/8.125)
My rear end is a Strange Dana 60 built to stock length and specs (NOT shortened).
I'm going to order those rims this weekend if possible.
I've seen those sizes on a million chargers and know they work without tubbing wheel housings and using stock suspension.
Furthermore, I have a full Reilly Motorsports coil over system in the front right now, and I'm going to install the rear when I get the car back (so I should have more clearance than with the OEM setup, especially with eliminating the rear leafs).
Can you guys that have done this before just throw out some backspacing numbers for the front and rear. I guess I want the tire to sit in the center of the wheel well as much as possible and take up as much space. If it had to lean either way outside of the center, I guess I would want them a little wider apart than closer together, but center sounds perfect. I think that's what everyone tries to shoot for, right?
Thanks for anything!
Jeff
For what it's worth, I ordered the following for my car. 68 charger, 8 3/4 rear, car is lowered 2 inches, no other suspension modifications in the back, stock width rear.
17x8 front 4.5 backspace 245/45/17 tire size
18x9.5 rear 5 backspace 285/40/18 tire size
It depends on where you read, some say a 5.5 backspace will fit, I measured and could not see how it would work on mine. Others say 5.25 would be ideal. I went with 5" based on my measurements
Wes
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on March 09, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
For what it's worth, I ordered the following for my car. 68 charger, 8 3/4 rear, car is lowered 2 inches, no other suspension modifications in the back, stock width rear.
17x8 front 4.5 backspace 245/45/17 tire size
18x9.5 rear 5 backspace 285/40/18 tire size
It depends on where you read, some say a 5.5 backspace will fit, I measured and could not see how it would work on mine. Others say 5.25 would be ideal. I went with 5" based on my measurements
Wes
What did you do to lower the car?
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on March 09, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
For what it's worth, I ordered the following for my car. 68 charger, 8 3/4 rear, car is lowered 2 inches, no other suspension modifications in the back, stock width rear.
17x8 front 4.5 backspace 245/45/17 tire size
18x9.5 rear 5 backspace 285/40/18 tire size
It depends on where you read, some say a 5.5 backspace will fit, I measured and could not see how it would work on mine. Others say 5.25 would be ideal. I went with 5" based on my measurements
Wes
Thanks for the input! :cheers:
I talked with Bill over at Reilly Motorsports and he said that he would run the 17x*" front with 5.25" of backspacing.
He said that 5 & 5.5 were both on the extreme sides of the spectrum (he may have just been accommodating his suspension setup that's on my car).
Rear - 17x10" with 5.5" of backspacing.
Hopefully that setup will work!
Do you have a pic of your car with that staggered wheel stance? :drool5:
Jeff
Quote from: Toni on February 15, 2015, 11:26:42 AM
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Hautala/DSC_08991.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Hautala/media/DSC_08991.jpg.html)
Got 15x8 4,5"rear spacing and 15x10 5" inch rear spacing
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Hautala/DSC_09041.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Hautala/media/DSC_09041.jpg.html)
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Hautala/DSC_09031.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/Hautala/media/DSC_09031.jpg.html)
I think that the rims fit well ;D Tires are 245 in front and 295/50 cooper cobra in rear.
By the way Toni, I absolutely love those Centerline convo Pro's! :2thumbs:
Great look and choice! :cheers:
Jeff
Quote from: Dreamcar on March 09, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on March 09, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
For what it's worth, I ordered the following for my car. 68 charger, 8 3/4 rear, car is lowered 2 inches, no other suspension modifications in the back, stock width rear.
17x8 front 4.5 backspace 245/45/17 tire size
18x9.5 rear 5 backspace 285/40/18 tire size
It depends on where you read, some say a 5.5 backspace will fit, I measured and could not see how it would work on mine. Others say 5.25 would be ideal. I went with 5" based on my measurements
Wes
What did you do to lower the car?
I am using 2 in drop spindles in the front and blocks in the rear for now until I save up for custom springs.
Quote from: MxRacer855 on March 09, 2015, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on March 09, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
For what it's worth, I ordered the following for my car. 68 charger, 8 3/4 rear, car is lowered 2 inches, no other suspension modifications in the back, stock width rear.
17x8 front 4.5 backspace 245/45/17 tire size
18x9.5 rear 5 backspace 285/40/18 tire size
It depends on where you read, some say a 5.5 backspace will fit, I measured and could not see how it would work on mine. Others say 5.25 would be ideal. I went with 5" based on my measurements
Wes
Thanks for the input! :cheers:
I talked with Bill over at Reilly Motorsports and he said that he would run the 17x*" front with 5.25" of backspacing.
He said that 5 & 5.5 were both on the extreme sides of the spectrum (he may have just been accommodating his suspension setup that's on my car).
Rear - 17x10" with 5.5" of backspacing.
Hopefully that setup will work!
Do you have a pic of your car with that staggered wheel stance? :drool5:
Jeff
I will once they come in and I get the tires mounted. Just ordered them this past weekend. I will post a pic when they are on the car.
Quote from: NHCharger on May 11, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
I looked for over two months at all these wheel threads. Have chrome mags on my other two Chargers so I needed something different. Thought about going all black but a photochop didn't look good. Ended up with the American Racing Vectors. 15x8.5 with 275/60's on the back. 15x8 with 235/60's on the front. Probably could have gone 295/60 on the back but didn't want to push it. And- NO, I'm not a DOH fan. Not a fan of the 18's on old muscle and the engine build blew my budget. Wheel package cost me $1,400.00. couldn't justify spending that on just one wheel/tire.
where did you get the 15x8s at. i could only get 15x7 from the website.
luke
Rear 18x9,5 with 295/40
Front 17x8 with 255/45
17x8 245/40
17x7 225/45
I know it´s not a charger ;)
Quote from: Axelssson on March 10, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Rear 18x9,5 with 295/40
Front 17x8 with 255/45
Uh....NICE!!!!
A question.
Im ordering Foose f204 coronet wheels for another charger.
Im thinking 20x10 rear but i cant decide about backspace. BS between 5 and 5,5 inch.
Front im going for 19x8 but its the same there. BS between 4 and 4,5inch.
Rear BS is optional 5, 5.25, 5.5
Front is optional 4, 4.25, 4.5
Whats your recommendation?
It´s a 70 charger
Quote from: lukedukem on March 10, 2015, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: NHCharger on May 11, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
I looked for over two months at all these wheel threads. Have chrome mags on my other two Chargers so I needed something different. Thought about going all black but a photochop didn't look good. Ended up with the American Racing Vectors. 15x8.5 with 275/60's on the back. 15x8 with 235/60's on the front. Probably could have gone 295/60 on the back but didn't want to push it. And- NO, I'm not a DOH fan. Not a fan of the 18's on old muscle and the engine build blew my budget. Wheel package cost me $1,400.00. couldn't justify spending that on just one wheel/tire.
where did you get the 15x8s at. i could only get 15x7 from the website.
luke
Luke- check here.
http://www.americanracing.com/wheels/VN47/VN0477/techsheet
Quote from: NHCharger on March 16, 2015, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: lukedukem on March 10, 2015, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: NHCharger on May 11, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
I looked for over two months at all these wheel threads. Have chrome mags on my other two Chargers so I needed something different. Thought about going all black but a photochop didn't look good. Ended up with the American Racing Vectors. 15x8.5 with 275/60's on the back. 15x8 with 235/60's on the front. Probably could have gone 295/60 on the back but didn't want to push it. And- NO, I'm not a DOH fan. Not a fan of the 18's on old muscle and the engine build blew my budget. Wheel package cost me $1,400.00. couldn't justify spending that on just one wheel/tire.
where did you get the 15x8s at. i could only get 15x7 from the website.
luke
Luke- check here.
http://www.americanracing.com/wheels/VN47/VN0477/techsheet
again, i'm still not seeing
15x8.... they have 15x7 and 15x8.5, but not 15x8. unless i'm blind, its not on there....
luke
Geeze- I've got to stop reading through these posts so fast. I did get the 8.5's for my rear wheels, not the 15x8. sorry to mislead you. No clearance issues, could have gone bigger on the tire size.
Just ordered a set of Cooper Cobra's to replace my Indy 500 Firehawks that are 12 years old.
Unfortunately they don't make the Indy 500 Firehawk with RWL any more in a decent size but the Cobra's still have that old school look. It's really a shame, the Firehawk's look awesome.
255/70r15 rear and 235/70r15 in the front should be interesting :2thumbs:
Soon there won't be anymore classic old school rwl tires being made.
You drove around on 12 year old tires?
Yes I did.
Got my new ones delivered Friday, spent today mounting and balancing and then test drove. Verdict= purely awesome.
These tires raised the car 1 inch on all corners and rides completely different now. Plus I really love the old school look. No rubber band tires for me.
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/20150411_135642.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/20150411_163815.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/2015-04-11%2017.04.29.jpg)
:2thumbs:
For you guys that are truly DIY like I am, I thought I'd share this.
So I bought one of those portable tire changer things for 45 bucks at Fleet Farm for changing tires on my 4 wheeler. Harbor Freight has them for less I think. Anyway, it works perfect for full size tires too. I swapped tires onto my magnums with no issues, no scratches, no problems. Takes about 5 minutes to dismount and 5 min to mount. I bolted mine to my garage floor with recessed anchors so I can store it and bolt it down when I need it.
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/20150411_112850.jpg)
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/20150411_131026.jpg)
I took all the lead weights off the wheels and balanced with airsoft pellets, similar to Dynabeads. Being skeptical, I figured if it doesn't work, I can take them out and get the wheels balanced professionally.
I put 4 oz of pellets in each tire then seated the beads and aired up, super easy.
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/20150416_104515.jpg)
All installed, I took it for a test drive, all different speeds up to 85 mph and absolutely no vibrations. It works perfect and that jar was like 8 bucks, enough to do 8 wheels.
:2thumbs:
I'm looking for some new wheels for my car and found some camaro wheels for $100
Camaro back p265/15r70 front p225/15r70
75Charger back p235/15r70 front p225/15r70
Both are 5 bolt pattern
The whees swill not fit. Camaro bolt pattern is 5 on 4.75", the Charger is 5 on 4.5".
Quote from: HPP on April 26, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
The whees swill not fit. Camaro bolt pattern is 5 on 4.75", the Charger is 5 on 4.5".
:iagree:
Thank you for the information
These are my new shoes. The lettering (rubber from Tredwear) is not glued on yet, so it's just sitting there, off center. Yeah, I know, I just like raised letters in all their glory. :) Anyway, they are 275/50/17 for out back, and 255/50/17 for front. Going on TT originals.
Nice! I've been thinking about getting a set of those Tredwear letters for mine as well. Not many people like the white letters on big wheels but I do. :2thumbs:
I agree white and red!
I love them.
If you get them, please post pics!
:2thumbs:
Quote from: comet_666 on May 16, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
last one
What's your wheel width? Those look like the new vectors, so I can't tell if they are the 7's or 8.5's. Since unlike the older Vectors, AR put the width differences in the backspacing. I'm buying new tires in the next few weeks, so I'm doing some more research before I buy. Thanks!
Ive read through this entire thread and there are so many wheel/tire and suspension combos not to mention BS
I've had a set of wheels boxed for 3 years because i haven't got the balls to go buy a set of tires only to find I've got it wrong so......
In your opinion with 15x10 with 5" BS fitted with BF G 295/50 rubber fit on my 68 with the rear lowered 1.5"?
Quote from: MellowCharger on May 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Ive read through this entire thread and there are so many wheel/tire and suspension combos not to mention BS
I've had a set of wheels boxed for 3 years because i haven't got the balls to go buy a set of tires only to find I've got it wrong so......
In your opinion with 15x10 with 5" BS fitted with BF G 295/50 rubber fit on my 68 with the rear lowered 1.5"?
Without lowering, yes. With lowering, I don't know, but I wonder if you could handle passengers and/or extra weight in the trunk. If it hits, it would probably be on the flat side of the outer wheel well so modifications may be needed.
Why don't you call your local tire place and ask if they have something old in that size you could try? It's a long shot but you never know.
I'm with you...inclined to think it'll catch on the outer lip
..new rubber on back rims today...half the reason to drive a 70's car is for raised lettering on the tires... One done. Given that there was a bit of a learning curve, I expect the next one to go much quicker.
Looks good!
Love the Nitto logo!
Quote from: Dino on May 17, 2015, 02:26:13 PM
Quote from: MellowCharger on May 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Ive read through this entire thread and there are so many wheel/tire and suspension combos not to mention BS
I've had a set of wheels boxed for 3 years because i haven't got the balls to go buy a set of tires only to find I've got it wrong so......
In your opinion with 15x10 with 5" BS fitted with BF G 295/50 rubber fit on my 68 with the rear lowered 1.5"?
Without lowering, yes. With lowering, I don't know, but I wonder if you could handle passengers and/or extra weight in the trunk. If it hits, it would probably be on the flat side of the outer wheel well so modifications may be needed.
Why don't you call your local tire place and ask if they have something old in that size you could try? It's a long shot but you never know.
I have coker magnum replicas 15x 10 with 295 50 15 cooper cobra radial gt
Car is lowered with xv leaf springs shocks...had to trim pass side wheel well inner lip because it rubbed the side wall over bumps or rear passengers...driver side ok
lot depends on rear quarter situation... my car was AMD sheetmetal from full resto...lot of alignment and welding....ended up mayber 1/4 inch tighter on passenger side
hello guy this link is broken. who repar this link?
http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html
BECAUSE i search a full size rims for my daytona project thank for me and all
Quote from: 444spd on May 31, 2015, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: Dino on May 17, 2015, 02:26:13 PM
Quote from: MellowCharger on May 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Ive read through this entire thread and there are so many wheel/tire and suspension combos not to mention BS
I've had a set of wheels boxed for 3 years because i haven't got the balls to go buy a set of tires only to find I've got it wrong so......
In your opinion with 15x10 with 5" BS fitted with BF G 295/50 rubber fit on my 68 with the rear lowered 1.5"?
Without lowering, yes. With lowering, I don't know, but I wonder if you could handle passengers and/or extra weight in the trunk. If it hits, it would probably be on the flat side of the outer wheel well so modifications may be needed.
Why don't you call your local tire place and ask if they have something old in that size you could try? It's a long shot but you never know.
I have coker magnum replicas 15x 10 with 295 50 15 cooper cobra radial gt
Car is lowered with xv leaf springs shocks...had to trim pass side wheel well inner lip because it rubbed the side wall over bumps or rear passengers...driver side ok
lot depends on rear quarter situation... my car was AMD sheetmetal from full resto...lot of alignment and welding....ended up mayber 1/4 inch tighter on passenger side
A 69 Charger parked next to a classic 911...that's like my dream garage. I'm jealous
Quote from: Dreamcar on June 05, 2015, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: 444spd on May 31, 2015, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: Dino on May 17, 2015, 02:26:13 PM
Quote from: MellowCharger on May 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Ive read through this entire thread and there are so many wheel/tire and suspension combos not to mention BS
I've had a set of wheels boxed for 3 years because i haven't got the balls to go buy a set of tires only to find I've got it wrong so......
In your opinion with 15x10 with 5" BS fitted with BF G 295/50 rubber fit on my 68 with the rear lowered 1.5"?
Without lowering, yes. With lowering, I don't know, but I wonder if you could handle passengers and/or extra weight in the trunk. If it hits, it would probably be on the flat side of the outer wheel well so modifications may be needed.
Why don't you call your local tire place and ask if they have something old in that size you could try? It's a long shot but you never know.
I have coker magnum replicas 15x 10 with 295 50 15 cooper cobra radial gt
Car is lowered with xv leaf springs shocks...had to trim pass side wheel well inner lip because it rubbed the side wall over bumps or rear passengers...driver side ok
lot depends on rear quarter situation... my car was AMD sheetmetal from full resto...lot of alignment and welding....ended up mayber 1/4 inch tighter on passenger side
A 69 Charger parked next to a classic 911...that's like my dream garage. I'm jealous
thanks for the compliment dream car. It's an 88 911 Turbo that i daily drive and hammer on. Picked it up cheap about 5 years ago before the values went up. Do most of the wrenching myself. Doesn't quite compare though to a 496 stroker at 6000 rpm.
Very different worlds...luv em both.
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on June 05, 2015, 10:36:16 AM
hello guy this link is broken. who repar this link?
http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html
BECAUSE i search a full size rims for my daytona project thank for me and all
Use this link instead:
http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/wheelguide
:cheers:
thank you for link :cheers:
Quote from: richsteele on July 01, 2015, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on June 05, 2015, 10:36:16 AM
hello guy this link is broken. who repar this link?
http://vexer.com/68rt/wheelguide.html
BECAUSE i search a full size rims for my daytona project thank for me and all
Use this link instead:
http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/wheelguide
:cheers:
thx to the person with one post, lol...I love this link could never find it till now.
I went through the whole thread and learned a lot, thanks for all the info.
On my '69 Charger I'm changing from 275/60/15's to an 18x9 or 10 rear wheel. Like many I don't want to sacrifice the meaty look in the back and also want to go with a bigger wheel. Plugging in the numbers in the vexer tool (http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/wheelguide) I get ok clearances with 275/60/18 with about 5.5 BS and a +0.5 offset.
Question 1: What are my limits as far as total wheel+tire diameter? My original combo is 28" overall. If I go 18" wheel, that's 31" overall- will that still fit in the wheel well? If not, what's my limit?
Question 2: Where are you all finding 18" tires that are around 275/60 but aren't truck or SUV tires? I checked a bunch of sites without much luck. I see lots of 275/40 skinny tires...
Thanks and sorry if its already been answered in the previous 13 pages.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDc1MA==/z/E8cAAOSwBLlVChmi/$_12.JPG
I want something different from the cragar, Torque thrust look for my 68. Something a bit more modern. What do you all think of these on a 68?
That didn't work. I'll try it again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/18x9-XD801-Crank-Chrome-Wheels-Set-of-4-/161742146729
:eek2: To me, those are truck wheels. Hence the 8 bolt holes...
100% truck wheels.
I was afraid everyone would notice that. My son threatened to disown me, and asked if a 6" lift and 4wd was next. I don't know why, but I keep finding wheels I like only to see that they are truck wheels. :P I must be getting loosing it. I still think they would look cool, but I would be the only one who thought so, and I would probably get ridiculed to no end. :eek2:
Quote from: mike337 on January 06, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
16 x 8 American Racing AR898 rims with P235/60R16 Falken SN211 tires. Now I just need to buy the Wilwood brakes for front and back. Note: the new rear springs have a one inch lift greater than stock.
Mike
Here is another I like from this thread, but...you guessed it they are truck wheels too. :brickwall:
Stay away from the truck wheels! :lol: Get a wheel that has some lip to it. The wheels where the spokes meet the outside of the hub always look out of place on muscle cars. :Twocents:
What style wheel are you looking for? Modern as in multi spoke, retro modern, luxury?
I have narrowed it down to either 18" all around or 18 in back and 17 in front. I would like 18 x 10 in back and 18 x 8 or 9 in front or 17 x 8 or 9 in front. I also think I want chrome or aluminum, but not painted. Other than that I am open to anything, but I have had Cragars on there for 40 years and everyone has them or something similar, so I would like something to stand out a little bit.
What's your budget on them?
Here are a couple that I have liked for a while. On the 5 spoke it has a polished outer with brushed spokes. Looks real good in person.
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on August 19, 2015, 06:07:00 PM
What's your budget on them?
Here are a couple that I have liked for a while. On the 5 spoke it has a polished outer with brushed spokes. Looks real good in person.
My budget is flexable. The first one is too much like the Cragar Torque Thrust etc. I like the second one better.
I like the American Racing Gasser, but I don't know if I can get 18 x 10 on it.
http://www.customwheelsexpress.com/images/AR-VN474-Gasser-2.jpg
How about something like this? Same style as the Gasser wheel, just a little bit different. And comes in just about any size you want.
The only other wheel outside of the traditional Torq Thrust style that I've ever considered are the ones run by "white and red" who posted above me and MSRacing89. There just aren't many styles that work, in my own very narrow opinion...
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on August 19, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
How about something like this? Same style as the Gasser wheel, just a little bit different. And comes in just about any size you want.
I like that newstalgic one. I'll have to look for some pics on Chargers if possible.
I actually like the 4th rim that White and Red posted!
Pretty cool looking rim for and old school style! :2thumbs:
Jeff
Quote from: 68charger440 on August 19, 2015, 08:22:15 PM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on August 19, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
How about something like this? Same style as the Gasser wheel, just a little bit different. And comes in just about any size you want.
I like that newstalgic one. I'll have to look for some pics on Chargers if possible.
Perfect timing! :2thumbs:
Quote from: MxRacer855 on August 19, 2015, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: 68charger440 on August 19, 2015, 08:22:15 PM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on August 19, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
How about something like this? Same style as the Gasser wheel, just a little bit different. And comes in just about any size you want.
I like that newstalgic one. I'll have to look for some pics on Chargers if possible.
Perfect timing! :2thumbs:
Who makes that one? I couldnt find it online.
Never mind...I found it.
:cheers:
The Intro Newstalgic is way nicer than the truck wheels :lol:
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on August 20, 2015, 12:56:14 AM
The Intro Newstagic is way nicer than the truck wheels :lol:
I'm gonna put those truck wheels on along with the 6" lift and 4wd; then I gonna hook it up to my doublewide an move to where I'm appreciated! :smilielol: :slap: :rofl:
Quote from: 68charger440 on August 19, 2015, 03:52:17 PM
I was afraid everyone would notice that. My son threatened to disown me, and asked if a 6" lift and 4wd was next. I don't know why, but I keep finding wheels I like only to see that they are truck wheels. :P I must be getting loosing it. I still think they would look cool, but I would be the only one who thought so, and I would probably get ridiculed to no end. :eek2:
Actually, they do offer 5 lug versions. However, they don't have a compatible bolt pattern listed. You need a 5 on 114mm. The smallest they offer is 127mm.
http://www.kmcwheels.com/wheelSpecs.cfm?id=35&f=1&wiid=56
Yeah, i saw that also, and I also found some other similar wheels that actually have the 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern, but everyone will still make fun of it. Part of me says it is my car and I'll do what I like, while the other part of me says if everyone thinks it looks stupid then there must be something wrong with me. :shruggy:
These have the 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern.
You do what you feel is right. People can flap their gums all day about YOUR car, but at the end of the cruise or show-n-shine you have to drive your car home, park it, and live with it.
Personally, I think those wheels look great. Maybe someone can photoshop those wheels onto your car as a preview?
Unless they are cognizant of truck wheel manufacturers, most won't know the difference. I also wouldn't automatically dismiss using a part because it is designated as LT, especially tires. On some items, the extra beef that comes with a truck part is welcome. In others, not so much.
Myk is right. Ultimately, you have to go with what you think looks good. It's your car. It needs to make you happy, not everyone else.
Maybe you'll be sprites and get a lot of compliments for it too! Or maybe you'll son won't ever talk to you again, lol.
Either way, it's easily reversal if you don't like it.
Jeff
Hi guys and gals,
Wheels and tires came in. 245/45/17 in front, 305/45/18 in back....its gonna be close.
I'll post pics when installed.
Thanks for the advice and photos.
Nice looking, congrats!
Sweet! That baby's gonna have some serious rake to it! :2thumbs:
Yeah, its got shackles too...so it is gonna be a lot of rake.
Hope it looks good :)
Quote from: Charge_her on August 29, 2015, 05:15:31 PM
Yeah, its got shackles too...so it is gonna be a lot of rake.
Hope it looks good :)
I feel a 70s vibe coming on. :lol:
Shackles are cheap and easy to replace, just in case.
Good call. These look good:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/m20ProductDisplayView?pageSize=10&resultCatEntryType=2&searchTerm=&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&productId=1348818&storeId=10001&sType=&pgGrp=search
Those look SWEET! :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
I can't wait to see them on. What springs and shocks do you have?
Had front end rebuilt when I first got it many moons ago. Mostly standard replacements for stock parts. Springs front, leafs back. Not sure on brand of shocks.
Quote from: Charge_her on August 29, 2015, 06:14:43 PM
Good call. These look good:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/m20ProductDisplayView?pageSize=10&resultCatEntryType=2&searchTerm=&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&productId=1348818&storeId=10001&sType=&pgGrp=search
Those will work! I got the stock shackles which came with bushings but used the Moog bushings instead. It was just under $60 all in so the Hotchkis is not a bad deal.
Love it!!! :2thumbs:
Thanks. I'll post pics of them on next week.
Quote from: Charge_her on August 30, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
Thanks. I'll post pics of them on next week.
Looking forward to seeing them on.
As promised here are some pics.
The 305/45/18's fit great on the left side, not quite on the inside right. Once the rear discs go on I'll get about 1/4" more room between the tire and inside wheel well wall. I'm looking to add a 1/4" wheel spacer on the right as well. Anyone else run into differences between right and left fitment before? I guess its only noticeable when you cram that much meat in there. :icon_smile_big:
Fronts are 245/45/17 w/ NITTO555, backs are NITTO 555R
Quote from: Charge_her on September 15, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
As promised here are some pics.
The 305/45/18's fit great on the left side, not quite on the inside right. Once the rear discs go on I'll get about 1/4" more room between the tire and inside wheel well wall. I'm looking to add a 1/4" wheel spacer on the right as well. Anyone else run into differences between right and left fitment before? I guess its only noticeable when you cram that much meat in there. :icon_smile_big:
Fronts are 245/45/17 w/ NITTO555, backs are NITTO 555R
I have 1/8" diff between right and left. I think it is the odd one that is perfect from side to side.
Can you post a pic or three from a bit further away so I can see the whole car, and from the ground level instead of on the lift. I am looking at the same combo, so I want as many looks as I can get.
Thx
They look good!
Here ya go. Pics when its on the ground and from further back. I think adjusting the torsion bars will help bring the front down an inch or so, should look good.
Charger Her - is that thing tubbed, or stock?
Jeff
Stock. But I only have about 1/4 - 1/2" of space on each side of the tire (on the left side). Its got old leaf springs and shackles, once those are replaced and rear discs on things will be a bit different....hopefully better (especially on the right side where I have no room on the inside between tire and wheel well wall). I'll add a 1/4" spacer plus the discs to push the wheel out a 1/2", hopefully leaving 1/4" on each side. We will see.
A lot of folks were wondering if this setup would work, so I gave it a shot. Wish me luck! :cheers:
I like it... part of me still misses the raised white lettering from back in the day though.
Agree, it was hard going away from the 15" rims and white letters. But she wore them for 10-15 years, time for a new pair of shoes and more modern look. Maybe in 10 years I go back to Cragar SS and BF Goodrich Radial T/A's.
So what is the backspacing on them, and are they TT2 wheels?
Funny you mention the Cragarss and radial T/A... that is what I have now and am looking for a change too.
That looks fantastic! Good job! :2thumbs:
I agree dropping the nose a bit will make it just right.
Lowering the front a little would give it a nice stance. :2thumbs:
Thanks! I'm happy with them.
18x10 AR Torq Thrust 2.1 - 5 x 4.5 bolt, 5.75 bs
17x8 AR Torq Thrust 2.1 - 5 x 4.5 bolt, 4.75 bs
305/45R18 Nitto NT555R Drag Radial
245/45R17 Nitto NT555 Extreme Radial
Quote from: Charge_her on September 17, 2015, 06:33:44 PM
Thanks! I'm happy with them.
18x10 AR Torq Thrust 2.1 - 5 x 4.5 bolt, 5.75 bs
17x8 AR Torq Thrust 2.1 - 5 x 4.5 bolt, 4.75 bs
305/45R18 Nitto NT555R Drag Radial
245/45R17 Nitto NT555 Extreme Radial
So how much space do you have between the inside of the wheel well lip and the tire if the tire were up higher in the well? It looks like you would have about an inch. I like that tucked in look that comes out close to the lip. I've always wondered if the 305/45/18 would fit on a 4.75 back spaced 18" wheel. I did the calculations for my car and it looks like it would be too close to call.
Yeah, very close. I have about 1/2 - 3/4" on one side and none on the other. Moving the right wheel out about a half inch with a spacer and disc conversion. No guarantee I won't rub, we will see.
Quote from: familymopar on September 21, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: 505charger on September 21, 2014, 10:26:19 AM
What brand and model of wheel are you running?
Boss 338's
http://www.bossmotorsports.com/custom_chrome_wheels.cfm?id=1920&cat=466
Hey Family man, how've you been? Haven't seen you around and yer inbox is full. Hope all is well with you, family and Charger...
Quote from: Charge_her on September 16, 2015, 07:10:26 PM
Here ya go. Pics when its on the ground and from further back. I think adjusting the torsion bars will help bring the front down an inch or so, should look good.
News flash, my friend: SHE ALREADY LOOKS GOOD :punkrocka:
Thanks dude
Question guys: I really love my wheels but wish the back wheel was an 18 x 9 with a zero offset instead of an 18 x 8. Discount Tire, the maker of these wheels, doesn't carry that size, so my only option is to go to the 17" wheels, which do come in a 9" wheel with a +6 offset, or try to find this style of wheel with the measurements I need. How do I go about doing that? Is there some sort of search engine for wheels on a website somewhere? Wheels tend to be copied by all of the various wheel companies, so I find it hard to believe that Discount Tire is the only place that has this style. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
Quote from: myk on November 30, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Question guys: I really love my wheels but wish the back wheel was an 18 x 9 with a zero offset instead of an 18 x 8. Discount Tire, the maker of these wheels, doesn't carry that size, so my only option is to go to the 17" wheels, which do come in a 9" wheel with a +6 offset, or try to find this style of wheel with the measurements I need. How do I go about doing that? Is there some sort of search engine for wheels on a website somewhere? Wheels tend to be copied by all of the various wheel companies, so I find it hard to believe that Discount Tire is the only place that has this style. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
Hey Myk, what about getting your 18x8s widened? Should cost less than getting a whole new set of wheels...I think?
http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/
Or there might be a shop local to you that could handle it. :2thumbs:
Wow, thanks for the link; that might be just what I need. Someone, somewhere told me that widening or shortening wheels is potentially unsafe. Do you know of any instances of problems?
I've heard people say the welds could fail and that it weakens the overall structure but I think it all depends on the shop doing the work. I think in the scenarios that professionally widened wheels have failed have been in hard impacts where a normal wheel would have failed as well. And then of course you hear about the guys who do it themselves in the backyard and wonder why the wheels can't be balanced.
I was looking into getting my wheels widened a while back and talked to a few guys who had theirs done at Weldcraft and all of them said they were perfect with no issues with strength or balance and no concern about failures. As long as a reputable shop is handling it I would have no problems putting them on my car.
Quote from: myk on November 30, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Question guys: I really love my wheels but wish the back wheel was an 18 x 9 with a zero offset instead of an 18 x 8. Discount Tire, the maker of these wheels, doesn't carry that size, so my only option is to go to the 17" wheels, which do come in a 9" wheel with a +6 offset, or try to find this style of wheel with the measurements I need. How do I go about doing that? Is there some sort of search engine for wheels on a website somewhere? Wheels tend to be copied by all of the various wheel companies, so I find it hard to believe that Discount Tire is the only place that has this style. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
ridler makes the clone of your wheels.....
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on November 30, 2015, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: myk on November 30, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Question guys: I really love my wheels but wish the back wheel was an 18 x 9 with a zero offset instead of an 18 x 8. Discount Tire, the maker of these wheels, doesn't carry that size, so my only option is to go to the 17" wheels, which do come in a 9" wheel with a +6 offset, or try to find this style of wheel with the measurements I need. How do I go about doing that? Is there some sort of search engine for wheels on a website somewhere? Wheels tend to be copied by all of the various wheel companies, so I find it hard to believe that Discount Tire is the only place that has this style. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
Hey Myk, what about getting your 18x8s widened? Should cost less than getting a whole new set of wheels...I think?
http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/
Or there might be a shop local to you that could handle it. :2thumbs:
WOW im interested in this because I want to minitube, but new rims will cost me 4 grand or more for 4 I can widen my rears up 2 more inches wonder what the costs be.
If you get a price post it. I am interested in getting some widened also.
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 30, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
ridler makes the clone of your wheels.....
Thanks for the heads up. I checked them out but of course, they don't have my sizes either. I guess it's either do what Clayton says, or switch to 17's, or change wheel styles... ::)
So with my new +1" springs on my '68 I am thinking of getting new 15x10 w/ 5" bs Cragars. 440, 3.23 gears, 727, street driven but I like to light em up and go light to light every once in a while.
I searched through this thread but could not find the combo I'm considering so would like to throw it out to the group for feedback or anyone who is running close to this combo.
Either:
MT Sportsman SR 30x12R15 rear, 26x10 or 28x10 front - are 10' too wide up front?? Is 30 to 26" to much of a stagger??
https://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=SportsmanSR
Or
Hoosier Pro Street Radials 29x12.5 rear, 28x9.5 or 27x10.5 - again are the 10.5 too wide?
http://www.hoosiertire.com/pdfs/prostr.pdf
Quote from: 303 Mopar on January 22, 2016, 11:45:40 PM
So with my new +1" springs on my '68 I am thinking of getting new 15x10 w/ 5" bs Cragars. 440, 3.23 gears, 727, street driven but I like to light em up and go light to light every once in a while.
I searched through this th2R15read but could not find the combo I'm considering so would like to throw it out to the group for feedback or anyone who is running close to this combo.
Either:
MT Sportsman SR 30x1 rear, 26x10 or 28x10 front - are 10' too wide up front?? Is 30 to 26" to much of a stagger??
https://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=SportsmanSR
Or
Hoosier Pro Street Radials 29x12.5 rear, 28x9.5 or 27x10.5 - again are the 10.5 too wide?
http://www.hoosiertire.com/pdfs/prostr.pdf
I think the front will give you some trouble on driveway bumps etc. when at full turning radius and at stock ride height. Not sure about the back, but I think that might rub also at stock height.
Quote from: 303 Mopar on January 22, 2016, 11:45:40 PM
So with my new +1" springs on my '68 I am thinking of getting new 15x10 w/ 5" bs Cragars. 440, 3.23 gears, 727, street driven but I like to light em up and go light to light every once in a while.
I searched through this thread but could not find the combo I'm considering so would like to throw it out to the group for feedback or anyone who is running close to this combo.
Either:
MT Sportsman SR 30x12R15 rear, 26x10 or 28x10 front - are 10' too wide up front?? Is 30 to 26" to much of a stagger??
https://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=SportsmanSR
Or
Hoosier Pro Street Radials 29x12.5 rear, 28x9.5 or 27x10.5 - again are the 10.5 too wide?
http://www.hoosiertire.com/pdfs/prostr.pdf
The SR 26x10 should fit up front okay if you have the right backspace on the wheels. You'll need a 15x8 with at least 4.25 backspace, 4.5"-4.75" would be preferred. Anything less than 4.25 and you may be rubbing the fender. Anything greater than 4.75" and you'll hit the upper ball joint.
26" to 30", that is a 4" diameter difference, so half of that is 2", that is how much it will lift the rear. Combined with you 1.5" over stock springs, you are now looking at a 3.5" rake. You could simulate this with a floor jack to get a view.
Quote from: HPP on January 23, 2016, 11:11:46 AM
The SR 26x10 should fit up front okay if you have the right backspace on the wheels. You'll need a 15x8 with at least 4.25 backspace, 4.5"-4.75" would be preferred. Anything less than 4.25 and you may be rubbing the fender. Anything greater than 4.75" and you'll hit the upper ball joint.
26" to 30", that is a 4" diameter difference, so half of that is 2", that is how much it will lift the rear. Combined with you 1.5" over stock springs, you are now looking at a 3.5" rake. You could simulate this with a floor jack to get a view.
Thanks HPP. I am shooting for a nice rake without the "stink bug" look. I think 4" is too much so I maybe looking at a 28" tall tire for the front if I go 30" rear. I want to fill all this room in the back I have now!
US Mags U102. 17x8 255/45, 18x9 265/50 Nitto P555 . 4.5" BS in front and 5.25" rear. Thanks to all the information on here, I could figure out what I wanted. Was looking for a classic look in a larger wheel with a tire with some sidewall to it.
I'll post better pics when I get it home
Quote from: out there on February 03, 2016, 05:12:55 PM
US Mags U102. 17x8 255/45, 18x9 265/50 Nitto P555 . 4.5" BS in front and 5.25" rear. Thanks to all the information on here, I could figure out what I wanted. Was looking for a classic look in a larger wheel with a tire with some sidewall to it.
Nice! Great wheel choice :2thumbs:
What's the logo on the stripe?
Thanks! :2thumbs: I spent a ridiculous amount of time studying pictures and sizes. I was afraid to gamble on some other ideas I had that may not have come out so well.
The stripe says 605/Hemi
You did good on those wheels! :2thumbs:
Quote from: Dino on February 03, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
You did good on those wheels! :2thumbs:
X2. Love it.
Thanks guys! I was looking at options with more black on them, but with the green body and silver stripe I decided to play it safe rather than gamble.
My choices ranged from dog dish, which I really like to pro touring, so I was all over the board. The information on here was plenty to make a decision without having the car to measure. My first choice, initially, turned out to be $1700 a wheel :o, so the search went on...
Is anyone running 15x10 with 30x12 tires or close to it on a 2nd gen Charger? I'm curious on the fit with backspace being 5.5 or 4.5, the only options Weld Wheels offers.
Here's specs on some reasonably priced wheels I got for the Charger while I make the transition to a touring build. The Pilot Super Sports have transformed the car vs the 215/295 Coopers I pulled off.
Front:
275/35R18
18x9.5"
Rear:
295/35R19
19x10.5
(http://i.imgur.com/pkqOYSoh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/arFcD0Hh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/saejIRNh.jpg)
Looking good! :2thumbs: Did you have to modify the wheel openings to get the 275's on the front?
Thanks! I massaged the front fenders out about a half inch just in case I had some flex while turning and hitting a bump simultaneously. It's been working well so far, no rubbing and the car has much improved turn-in with the wide fronts. And I can't recommend the Michelin PSS's enough, compared to 5-10 year old tire tech like the PS2's they are a big improvement but compared to 25-30 year old "performance" tires it's like driving a whole different car!
BombSquad- your car looks awesome ! :coolgleamA:
Quote from: crj1968 on April 01, 2016, 11:25:55 AM
BombSquad- your car looks awesome ! :coolgleamA:
Thanks man, I appreciate it! I know the wheels aren't going to be popular with most lot of guys here, but hell, I like different. I wanted to give it a bit of a gritty road race/Trans Am feel but a bit more modern like the current Hellcat and SRT designs. The wheels are based on a 90's Japanese design from Work called the Emotion... they're also actually a dark bronze color but you can't tell in these pics (digging my own grave here lol).
New Weld Prostars (15x8 with 3.5 bs and 15x10 with 5.5 bs) with M/T sportsman S/R (28x10 and 30x12). I did have to use 1/4" spacers on rears but fronts fit no problem.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/danfrazz/1968%20Charger/IMG_0365_zpsh5tso44j.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/danfrazz/media/1968%20Charger/IMG_0365_zpsh5tso44j.jpg.html)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/danfrazz/1968%20Charger/IMG_0390_zpsexhmgwq3.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/danfrazz/media/1968%20Charger/IMG_0390_zpsexhmgwq3.jpg.html)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/danfrazz/1968%20Charger/IMG_0307_zpsg6zibdbz.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/danfrazz/media/1968%20Charger/IMG_0307_zpsg6zibdbz.jpg.html)
Very Nice !
IMO, You NAILED it :2thumbs:
So I am wondering, would the 15 X 9 pro Stars on the 4.5" B.S. eliminate the need for the 1/4" Spacers on the rear ?
How is the rear clearance outwards to the 1/4 panel lip ?
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 23, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
Very Nice !
IMO, You NAILED it :2thumbs:
So I am wondering, would the 15 X 9 pro Stars on the 4.5" B.S. eliminate the need for the 1/4" Spacers on the rear ?
How is the rear clearance outwards to the 1/4 panel lip ?
yes that should work, but all cars are a little different.
Bombsquad and 303, both cars are fantastic. Totally different style wheels, tires and stances and they both are killer :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: out there on April 26, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
Bombsquad and 303, both cars are fantastic. Totally different style wheels, tires and stances and they both are killer :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Thanks and I agree, both look great and everyone should build it the way they want. I am fortunate enough to have a '70 Cuda that I built to look more "road course" low and tight suspension/steering. IMHO the Charger looks great with bigger tires and I wanted more of an old school straight line strip looking car.
Hi Bombsquad !
What is your back spacing on your front wheel to get 9.5 inch to fit ?
Thank you :cheers:
Wanted to post another pic of my car with new tires on it. i have 15x7 rims all around, i went with 245/60r15 all around as well, so i can rotate them.
Luke
I went with American Racing Torq Thrust IIs. 18x8 with 4.5" backspace in front with 255/45R18. 18x10" with 5.75" backspace and a 3/8" spacer in the rear with 295/45R18. Tires are Nitto NT555.
With the spacer in the rear I have 1" of clearance from tire to leaf spring.
The fronts fit great on the driver's side, dead center in the wheel opening. On the passenger's side they are very close to the forward fender lip, so there's an alignment or geometry issue I'll be chasing shortly. Ride height in the front is right at 27" to the highest point of the wheel opening.
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Passenger1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Driver1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/IMG_1699.jpg)
Looks great! :cheers: :2thumbs:
Nice! :2thumbs:
Quote from: Axelssson on March 10, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Rear 18x9,5 with 295/40
Front 17x8 with 255/45
Wow, that looks awesome!!! :o I like your choice in color and wheels! ;) ;)
I regret that I have not been here very much over the last couple years but I must say, I'm really happy to see how this thread has grown and all of the valuable input everyone has shared. I can see that it has helped a lot of people and that was my hope when I started it. Thanks everyone! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Now, keep it rollin'! :popcrn:
Quote from: funknut on June 30, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
I went with American Racing Torq Thrust IIs. 18x8 with 4.5" backspace in front with 255/45R18. 18x10" with 5.75" backspace and a 3/8" spacer in the rear with 295/45R18. Tires are Nitto NT555.
With the spacer in the rear I have 1" of clearance from tire to leaf spring.
The fronts fit great on the driver's side, dead center in the wheel opening. On the passenger's side they are very close to the forward fender lip, so there's an alignment or geometry issue I'll be chasing shortly. Ride height in the front is right at 27" to the highest point of the wheel opening.
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Passenger1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Driver1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/IMG_1699.jpg)
This is exactly the setup I'm going with on my '68 except i did the PVD finish. Great to see that it works how do you like it?
Quote from: CB Freshness on September 01, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
This is exactly the setup I'm going with on my '68 except i did the PVD finish. Great to see that it works how do you like it?
I actually haven't put too many miles on it since I installed the new wheels. The plan was for a quick brake conversion and get it back on the road for the rest of the summer season, but I found a few things I needed to deal with that have kept it in the garage.
In the limited amount of driving I've done on them (less than 200 miles) I haven't had any rubbing.
One plus is that they are significantly lighter than the Magnum 500s and BFG Radial T/As I replaced.
Amazing cars fellas! Must found the perfect place about tires thanks to some help! Anyways I was wondering what would be the best tire for my 1973 charger for the rear and front. I want the widest you can get without it rubbing . Personally it can stick out of the wheel wells that doesn't bother me. But I was looking for the tires to be on 17" rims thanks guys!!
Anyone know who makes a 275/50R/14 ?
No one that I'm aware of. DB Tires has a 275/50x15, but the widest 14" tire these days is going to be limited to 235-255.
Thanks, might end up increasing to a 15 inch rim.
I have 28x10x15's on the front and 30x12x15 in the back and was thinking about going a little smaller all the way around. Right now for the 30x12 I have to run a spacer and even then they are rubbing sometimes on the inner well on turns. The fronts have a couple of bubbles on the sidewalls so M/T said no problem, order new ones and send these back for a refund.
So questions:
- Would a 26x8 be better than a 26x10 in the front? I've heard that wider tires tend to track with grooves in the road.
- With 26s in the front, I'm planned to go with 28x12 or 28x10 or 26.6x11.6 (295x50). Would the 28x12's also rub, or is the whole aspect ratio changed since its a 2" shorter tire?
- I have +1" springs but also sensa-trac shocks with coil overs that I want switch out with Bilsteins. Should the car lower a bit with out the coil shocks? I want to keep the wheel well full of tire and like the wide track look too. So my concern with the 295x50 is they would be too short (30 down to 26.6).
Open to another suggestions too.
Thanks!
Will I be able to fit a 15"x10" rim with 5,5" BS set ut with BFG's 275 60 R15 in the rear of a 1970 Charger? I currently run 15"x8" with 3.75" BS with the same BF tire (275 60 R15)
Quote from: chargererik on January 24, 2017, 02:45:53 AM
Will I be able to fit a 15"x10" rim with 5,5" BS set ut with BFG's 275 60 R15 in the rear of a 1970 Charger? I currently run 15"x8" with 3.75" BS with the same BF tire (275 60 R15)
Looks great. Do you ever have any issues with running on the back tires?
What do you mean with running on the back tire?
Very sorry. Typo. I meant to ask if you have RUBBING issues...
Currently no rubbing issues with 15"x10" with 3,75 BS with BFG's 275 60 R15
I don't think you should have issues with the 15"x10" rims with 5,5" bs. There's plenty running that with a 295 without rubbing.
I guess most people running 295's got 50 profil, Do you still think the 275's with 60 profil will run clean? anyone that run this combo?
I run a 275/50R17 and it's about 28" tall like a 275/50R15. No issues with that.
That's a good looking Charger! What tire/rim size and backspace are you running on the front?
Not sure about the BS, it's a 7x15" rim with a 225 70 15 BFG
Quote from: Charge_her on August 29, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
Hi guys and gals,
Wheels and tires came in. 245/45/17 in front, 305/45/18 in back....its gonna be close.
I'll post pics when installed.
Thanks for the advice and photos.
Hey guys!
I would actually like to order this same setup this week (size wise). Do you know how it turned out? I have a four link setup in the rear and an AlterKation kit up front, which should give me more room. I just want to make sure they don't rub on the the lip of the quarter or inner wheel well.
Thank you
Jeff
Quote from: MxRacer855 on May 15, 2017, 09:57:02 AM
Quote from: Charge_her on August 29, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
Hi guys and gals,
Wheels and tires came in. 245/45/17 in front, 305/45/18 in back....its gonna be close.
I'll post pics when installed.
Thanks for the advice and photos.
Hey guys!
I would actually like to order this same setup this week (size wise). Do you know how it turned out? I have a four link setup in the rear and an AlterKation kit up front, which should give me more room. I just want to make sure they don't rub on the the lip of the quarter or inner wheel well.
Thank you
Jeff
She was recently active, maybe she will reply or send a pm. Assuming you saw all the pics on most of page 15 and mention of possible rubbing top of page 16, due to difference in gap side to side.
I'm New to the form. I have been reading on here before and thanks for helping navigate the mine fields of what not to do. So my car is a 1969 Dodge Charger vin is G G I think that it is a se but if the is a spot for build threads someone can correct me it's way older than me. My ? Are for the breaks and rims I'm at the Point where I'm finishing the plumbing needs a master cylinder and my car has no vac for power brakes is there a thred for this?. The rims I have came off a jeep 2005 ish they where off a buddy jeep so I got them jeep like less than 120$ a wheel he wanted new rims but the willwood hubs do not fit and I'm wondering if I'm better off selling them or going to the Machine shop and having it fixed
here is my 1970 charger with some new wheels american racing
front 15/7 3.75bs running 225/60 bfg
rear 17/8.5 3.75bs with 275/60 bfg
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/audi200/20170626_191808_zpsdfsvqyut.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/audi200/media/20170626_191808_zpsdfsvqyut.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/audi200/20170626_191456_zpsxrjbmpej.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/audi200/media/20170626_191456_zpsxrjbmpej.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/audi200/20170626_191733_zps01o45eod.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/audi200/media/20170626_191733_zps01o45eod.jpg.html)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/fitz73chrgr/20170627_175223_zpsyay4hzlt.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/fitz73chrgr/media/20170627_175223_zpsyay4hzlt.jpg.html)
American Racing VNT70R's
Front: 17x8 with 245/45 Nitto 555 G2's
Rear: 17x9 with 275/40's
Quote from: CB Freshness on September 01, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: funknut on June 30, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
I went with American Racing Torq Thrust IIs. 18x8 with 4.5" backspace in front with 255/45R18. 18x10" with 5.75" backspace and a 3/8" spacer in the rear with 295/45R18. Tires are Nitto NT555.
With the spacer in the rear I have 1" of clearance from tire to leaf spring.
The fronts fit great on the driver's side, dead center in the wheel opening. On the passenger's side they are very close to the forward fender lip, so there's an alignment or geometry issue I'll be chasing shortly. Ride height in the front is right at 27" to the highest point of the wheel opening.
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Passenger1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/Charger_Driver1.jpeg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/funkyjonx/IMG_1699.jpg)
This is exactly the setup I'm going with on my '68 except i did the PVD finish. Great to see that it works how do you like it?
Got any pics of yours?
Hey guys, quick question. I have stock wheel wells on my '68 (not tubbed). I am running a 4-link setup instead of springs which gives me a tiny bit more clearance.
I'm about to order a set of 18x10's with 5 1/2" of backspacing. I've had a lot of help from some pretty knowledgeable people that got me to this point, but could use some additional input. I know that a 285/40-18 is a safe bet, but I'm going to be putting some good power down and really want a bigger tire. A 295 is a hard size to find in what I'm looking for, so I want to run a 305/45-18. Are any if you running that right now? I just want to make sure it will fit with minimal rubbing. I've seen it before on here, but I guess am just looking for last minute advice to feel better. Lol.
I also really love the look of that size.
Thank you!
Jeff
I have 295/45R18s on 18x10 w/ 5.75 BS and a 3/8" spacer. They are close but I think another 5mm inboard would be ok.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,63191.msg1551481.html#msg1551481
All my geometry should be stock. Stock replacement springs and I haven't had any rubbing either inboard or outboard.
Hello all,
I am looking to put 295s on a 10.5 wheel on the rear. What is considered too tall? I see that 295/35/18 matches our stock height? Also on the front I thought 245s was the biggest in regards to steering and suspension issues? Iam concerned with the car looking too tall. The matching stock height up front is 245/40/18.
thanks
Quote from: frank1966 on December 29, 2017, 08:52:03 AM
Hello all,
I am looking to put 295s on a 10.5 wheel on the rear. What is considered too tall? I see that 295/35/18 matches our stock height? Also on the front I thought 245s was the biggest in regards to steering and suspension issues? Iam concerned with the car looking too tall. The matching stock height up front is 245/40/18.
thanks
Too tall as in interfering with drive-ability or personal preference? I run a 28" tall tire on the rear but I like the staggered look.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=101768.0
You can run wider up front but you'll have to be careful with backspacing. There's people here running 255s and even 275s up front.
Can our stock steering handle 275 tires up front?
I did some playing around yesterday in the cold, we have a lot of room up front! I put on a 275/40/20 9.5 wheel from my 2015 charger with a 18.5mm offset - 6in backspace.
It only bumps the frame when turned all the way in. There is at least 1.5 inches to the lip as well. With a zero offset these wheels would fit with ease. zero offset bumps the wheel out 0.7 inches with still more room to go to the lip
They fit the backs easily as well, with at least an inch to the lip and 1/2 to the leaf spring.
Quote from: funknut on December 01, 2017, 02:05:05 PM
I have 295/45R18s on 18x10 w/ 5.75 BS and a 3/8" spacer. They are close but I think another 5mm inboard would be ok.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,63191.msg1551481.html#msg1551481
All my geometry should be stock. Stock replacement springs and I haven't had any rubbing either inboard or outboard.
Why are you running a 3/8" spacer on there? It looks like you'd have enough clearance without them.
Quote from: Moparmatty on January 03, 2018, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: funknut on December 01, 2017, 02:05:05 PM
I have 295/45R18s on 18x10 w/ 5.75 BS and a 3/8" spacer. They are close but I think another 5mm inboard would be ok.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,63191.msg1551481.html#msg1551481
All my geometry should be stock. Stock replacement springs and I haven't had any rubbing either inboard or outboard.
Why are you running a 3/8" spacer on there? It looks like you'd have enough clearance without them
The picture is a little deceiving, it was
really close without the spacer. Less than half a finger's width for sure and with any sidewall flex I'm pretty sure it would rub. I used 3/8" because I had some handy but I would have been fine with 1/4" as well. Just a little extra insurance.
It's too bad they make those 18"x10" wheels with a +6mm (1/4") offset instead of a 0mm offset.
I'm going to be using the same ones.
I am looking at stepping up to 17s that will fill my fender well (soon I hope). I have been through these 18 pages and unfortunately soooo many of the pictures are gone and the links have died. I'm still trying to determine the offset and backspacing.
It took two and a half months to get the wheels on backorder, but got them in this weekend. Weld S79 18x10 with 5.7 inch bs in the back wrapped in Nitto NT01 305/35 and 18x8 with 4.7 bs in the front in 245/30. Will try and find a taller profile tire next time around, but for now I think dropping the suspension about an inch will get the gaps about right.
Quote from: chargedup68 on March 18, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
It took two and a half months to get the wheels on backorder, but got them in this weekend. Weld S79 18x10 with 5.7 inch bs in the back wrapped in Nitto NT01 305/35 and 18x8 with 4.7 bs in the front in 245/30. Will try and find a taller profile tire next time around, but for now I think dropping the suspension about an inch will get the gaps about right.
Looks awesome! :2thumbs: Got any details on the build and more pics?
Very Nice
Quote from: chargedup68 on March 18, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
It took two and a half months to get the wheels on backorder, but got them in this weekend. Weld S79 18x10 with 5.7 inch bs in the back wrapped in Nitto NT01 305/35 and 18x8 with 4.7 bs in the front in 245/30. Will try and find a taller profile tire next time around, but for now I think dropping the suspension about an inch will get the gaps about right.
:2thumbs: Looks great! Something different than the usual suspects.
Well the car started out as a standard 318/727 car and I started tearing it apart back in 2001. In the past 17 years I have swapped out just about all the sheet metal save a a door, fender, roof and firewall. I put in a RMS Alterkation kit up front and street lynx in the rear with strange D60 with 4.10's. Wilwood brakes all around and a hydromax booster. Tremec TKO600 with a hydrualic clutch that I need to plumb in. 608HP/658Ft LBS MASSFLO injected 505 wedge, 26 in Champion 3 core with twin fans. At this point I need to order a drive shaft, plumb the brakes and fuel system, finish off the interior, reassemble the grille and drive it!
Nice setup. That should be a ton of fun when you start driving it :2thumbs:
HI im new to this site
ive just imported a dodge charger to the UK and want to change the wheels- currently they are after market ones
What would be the wheel bore size and PCD and offset I would need to go for?
Also what would be the maximum size I can put on without affecting the suspension and wheel bearings? I was thinking 17/18 inch?
thanks
I used this:
http://wheel-guide.com/makers/dodge/charger/1969-Dodge-Charger/
:2thumbs:
Thanks alfsitalia much appreciated. I've an oil leaking onto exhaust manifold and when hot it smokes. It's at back of engine towards bulkhead/firewall. I think it may be inlet manifold seal??? Not sure as it only slightly drips when engine running. Is that what you suspect. Im taking on Monday to be put on ramp
Quote from: chargedup68 on March 18, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
It took two and a half months to get the wheels on backorder, but got them in this weekend. Weld S79 18x10 with 5.7 inch bs in the back wrapped in Nitto NT01 305/35 and 18x8 with 4.7 bs in the front in 245/30. Will try and find a taller profile tire next time around, but for now I think dropping the suspension about an inch will get the gaps about right.
Those wheels look great. I'm really digging your paint color as well!
Thought I would show a pic of the new wheels. Year one 17" Magnums, 17x8 in front and 17x9 in rear.
Quote from: 69chargerboy on May 21, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
Thought I would show a pic of the new wheels. Year one 17" Magnums, 17x8 in front and 17x9 in rear.
Nice! What tire sizes are you running?
Quote from: Dreamcar on May 21, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: 69chargerboy on May 21, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
Thought I would show a pic of the new wheels. Year one 17" Magnums, 17x8 in front and 17x9 in rear.
Nice! What tire sizes are you running?
Sorry, forgot to say. They are Nitto NT555 G2 all around. 245/45 in front and 255/50 in rear.
Thanks.
very nice
After a long search for some slots and days getting them polished back to life I finally got to temp install them and immediately found I have problems. I think slots are PERFECT for a 3rd Gen but it's not gonna work so new plan is leave cragars on '72 and put slots on '70, but need help. The Axle to wheel flange is 6 1/2 inches, the wheel had 6 inches of "front space" so I only have room for 1/2 and inch of sidewall "bulge"
Im thinking a 24560 15 would give me the least amount of "bulge" and still be somewhat tall...what do you guys think?
pic 1 - plum bob set up on '70
pic 2 - distance axle to fender (6.5 inch)
pic 3 wheel mount padto wheel lip (6 inches)
pic 4 - '72 set up and wheel measure. interestingly enough the '72 has 5.5 inches axle to fender and the '70 6.5...I thought they'd be the same? Also the 275/60/15's on the '72 "bulge" 1 inch past the wheel lip
Quote from: AKcharger on August 30, 2018, 11:53:41 PM
After a long search for some slots and days getting them polished back to life I finally got to temp install them and immediately found I have problems. I think slots are PERFECT for a 3rd Gen but it's not gonna work so new plan is leave cragars on '72 and put slots on '70, but need help. The Axle to wheel flange is 6 1/2 inches, the wheel had 6 inches of "front space" so I only have room for 1/2 and inch of sidewall "bulge"
Im thinking a 24560 15 would give me the least amount of "bulge" and still be somewhat tall...what do you guys think?
pic 1 - plum bob set up on '70
pic 2 - distance axle to fender (6.5 inch)
pic 3 wheel mount padto wheel lip (6 inches)
pic 4 - '72 set up and wheel measure. interestingly enough the '72 has 5.5 inches axle to fender and the '70 6.5...I thought they'd be the same? Also the 275/60/15's on the '72 "bulge" 1 inch past the wheel lip
You left out the most important part: How wide are the wheels? Many slots I've seen have 3.75" backspacing. On an 8" wheel (9" edge to edge) that would be 5.25" from the pad to the outer edge of the front. In general, you could run tires with a tread width less than the rim width and they likely won't bulge - but may look funky and may not be safe (check with the manufacturer for recommended rim widths). Manufacturers and model will vary but, basically, 235 mm = 9.25", 245 mm = 9.6", 255 mm = 10" and 275 mm = almost 11" in tread width. Obviously the sidewall will be wider - but it's dependent on how wide the rim is. A wide tire on a skinny rim will have the widest part near the tread and the center of the tire will be raised. A skinny tire on a wide rim will have the widest part at the mounting surface and the center of the tire may be caved in. When it's "just right" (somewhere within the recommended combination) there will be a sidewall bulge about midway between the rim and tread and the tread will be flat across. The sweet spot will be about where the tread and rim widths match (the listed width which is mounting surface NOT outside edges).
Having said all that... your tire won't "ride" with the sidewall at the same level as the wheel well lip. When your suspension compresses it "usually" in an arc so the tire is moving toward the inside as it moves up and will miss the lip. For example, in a turn to the right the outer (left side) suspension compresses and the body leans to the left while the axles stays mostly flat. The left side tire is now stuffed into the wheel well but leaning in with regards to the body. The right side tire is now outside the body so, even though it is leaning out in relation to the body it still clears everything. I have seen many cases where a tire is basically sitting even or slightly outside the wheel well lip at rest that never hits under normal driving conditions. Try cycling the suspension and measuring again (may be easier to see the difference with your old wheels and tires mounted).
And having said all that, the front is a completely different animal because the wheels also turn and there's more stuff for them to run into (fender brace, control arms, strut rods, etc.). Even with a perfect wheel/tire combination I'm not sure you can fit anything much wider than a 255. A 235 on an 8" rim is about normal. A rim with a small backspace is going to shove the tire right into the fender (ask me how I know).
Troy
Quote from: Troy on September 08, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
... your tire won't "ride" with the sidewall at the same level as the wheel well lip. When your suspension compresses it "usually" in an arc so the tire is moving toward the inside as it moves up and will miss the lip.
Troy
good news, that should give me some more wiggle room. I went with 245/60 15s and using the "plum bob method" I have 9/64 of an inch clearance on the drivers side (more room on pax) so I'm gonna install and drive around to make sure it really works then order up the front. Nothing funky there.
Hi all, first off thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! It was a great resource when I was looking into my wheel and tire setup and researching different options. Just installed my wheels and tires recently so I’m excited to be able to post my setup for posterity and hopefully help someone in the process!
I wanted to go for a poser stock-car look so I went with some Wheel Vintiques 63 series steelies mounted on ‘Goodyear Radial T/As’ ;) (put Goodyear tire stickers on the blackwall side of some BFGs). Very happy w/ the look overall and fitment of the setup but not very happy with Wheel Vintiques – I’ll get to that in a sec.
But first, the specs!
Front: 15x8 (4" bs) on 245/60/15
Rear: 15x10 (5.25" bs) on 295/50/15
I ordered custom backspacing for the rear since the standard backspacing of 5.5” put the tires too far inward so it was rubbing on the inside fender. 5.25” centers it just perfectly for mine and I have no rubbing issues front or rear, even with 3 people in the car.
As far as Wheel Vintiques, I wasn’t pleased with the custom backspacing wait time and the finish of the wheels. When I put in the custom backspacing order I was quoted 4-6 weeks and it took 8. The finish on the custom order wheels did not match the standard backspacing wheels I got for the front and the finish on the wheel edges was damaged pretty badly. Since I didn’t want to deal with waiting another 8 weeks for replacements I just took them to a local powdercoater and had them repowdercoated to match the fronts. Came out looking great but in hindsight I would’ve pursued buying them through Pete Paulsen Motorsports (recommended by the powdercoater) or Stockton Wheel.
Onto the pictures!
(https://i.imgur.com/gaAovich.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nJiOIu8h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SLTqeOch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dkQKCqvh.jpg)
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:2thumbs: Looks great! Thanks for posting. My plan was also to custom order 5.25bs on 15x10, after reading all the posts here. It seems to be the sweet spot and you have confirmed it.
Looks great!
Agreed! Difficult to tell from that photo angle....but it looks like you could get the tyres even closer to the fenders for even more of a race car look...still looks great though.
Thanks Finn and Bigblck11! Yea the 5.25 backspacing centers the rear wheels pretty perfectly - just make sure you measure first to confirm that would be the case on yours as well.
Quote from: alfaitalia on October 25, 2018, 04:02:47 AM
Agreed! Difficult to tell from that photo angle....but it looks like you could get the tyres even closer to the fenders for even more of a race car look...still looks great though.
Yea the front wheels/tires have room to come out some more - could've gotten away with a more aggressive backspacing there. The rears wouldn't have much room to come out at all w/o modifying the fenders
New Wheels,
American Racing 500 15x7 3.5" Backspace and 15x10 5.25" Backspace with 225/60R15 and 295/50R15 BF Goodrich T/A Radials.
Looks great! :2thumbs:
Quote from: ikbrown on October 23, 2018, 03:38:46 PM
Hi all, first off thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! It was a great resource when I was looking into my wheel and tire setup and researching different options. Just installed my wheels and tires recently so I'm excited to be able to post my setup for posterity and hopefully help someone in the process!
I wanted to go for a poser stock-car look so I went with some Wheel Vintiques 63 series steelies mounted on 'Goodyear Radial T/As' ;) (put Goodyear tire stickers on the blackwall side of some BFGs). Very happy w/ the look overall and fitment of the setup but not very happy with Wheel Vintiques – I'll get to that in a sec.
But first, the specs!
Front: 15x8 (4" bs) on 245/60/15
Rear: 15x10 (5.25" bs) on 295/50/15
I ordered custom backspacing for the rear since the standard backspacing of 5.5" put the tires too far inward so it was rubbing on the inside fender. 5.25" centers it just perfectly for mine and I have no rubbing issues front or rear, even with 3 people in the car.
As far as Wheel Vintiques, I wasn't pleased with the custom backspacing wait time and the finish of the wheels. When I put in the custom backspacing order I was quoted 4-6 weeks and it took 8. The finish on the custom order wheels did not match the standard backspacing wheels I got for the front and the finish on the wheel edges was damaged pretty badly. Since I didn't want to deal with waiting another 8 weeks for replacements I just took them to a local powdercoater and had them repowdercoated to match the fronts. Came out looking great but in hindsight I would've pursued buying them through Pete Paulsen Motorsports (recommended by the powdercoater) or Stockton Wheel.
Onto the pictures!
(https://i.imgur.com/gaAovich.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nJiOIu8h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SLTqeOch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dkQKCqvh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tcEiViCh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GZU1bNFh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SiNyOvph.jpg)
DAMN! That looks BADASS! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Where did you order those rims with customized backspace?
I have this rims -> Wheel, Chrysler O.E. Style, Steel, Black, 15 in. x 10 in., 5 x 4.5 in. Bolt Circle, 5.5 in. Backspace Summit Nr: WVI-63-5012052
Wrapped in this tyres -> 295/50/R15 Summit Nr: BFG-16225
And I think I have this problem you mentioned with the 5.5 in backspace that the tyres touching the inner fender when 2 persons in the back of the car.... :-(
On the front I am running on 15x7 rims with 245/60/15 but there is too much space to the outer fender.
I definitely need to go with 15x8 rims on the front as you do but maybe with juuust a little different backspace to come closer to the outer fender....
What do you think about 3" backspace?
Regards
Roland
Quote from: rollo1504 on October 30, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
DAMN! That looks BADASS! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Where did you order those rims with customized backspace?
I have this rims -> Wheel, Chrysler O.E. Style, Steel, Black, 15 in. x 10 in., 5 x 4.5 in. Bolt Circle, 5.5 in. Backspace Summit Nr: WVI-63-5012052
Wrapped in this tyres -> 295/50/R15 Summit Nr: BFG-16225
And I think I have this problem you mentioned with the 5.5 in backspace that the tyres touching the inner fender when 2 persons in the back of the car.... :-(
On the front I am running on 15x7 rims with 245/60/15 but there is too much space to the outer fender.
I definitely need to go with 15x8 rims on the front as you do but maybe with juuust a little different backspace to come closer to the outer fender....
What do you think about 3" backspace?
Regards
Roland
Hey Roland, I ordered the custom backspacing wheels through Summit as well. You just have to do the order over the phone and they'll submit the custom order to Wheel Vintiques for those wheels. If you want to do both front and rear as custom backspacing I would find another company than Wheel Vintiques tho in my opinion. My powdercoater recommended Pete Paulsen enterprises and I've also heard of people getting them through Stockton Wheel. Especially if you're considering custom backspacing for the front as well. You may be able to find better places to do custom steel wheels that are local to you which would make things easier.
I'd recommend measuring for your specific application in the front. On the front 15x8s I have a 4" bs which is half an inch further toward the outside fender than the standard centered offset of 4.5". 3" would probably be too far but I think but it may be worth measuring on yours to see if it would be achievable
As promised...the new slots
Hi there, so with all this great info, I am still not getting it I guess
Hello
Has anyone heard of "Vision Wheels" they sell on ebay?
I actually like the style, and they are really cheap (which is what I need right now)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-18-Wheels-Rims-Dodge-Charger-Coronet-Lexus-RX-350-F-RX450H-AWD-39008-/272846051957?vxp=mtr&hash=item3f86e45a75
Or if I did 15" HE SAID "I have 15x8 with -19 or 0 offset"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-17-Wheels-Rims-Dodge-Charger-Coronet-Lexus-RX-350-F-RX450H-AWD-39004-/272845966809?vxp=mtr&hash=item3f86e30dd9
Or if I did 15" HE SAID "I have 15x8 with -19 or 0 offset"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-15-Wheels-Rims-Dodge-Charger-Coronet-Lexus-RX-350-F-RX450H-AWD-39003-/272845954592?vxp=mtr&hash=item3f86e2de20
hE HAS 15X7 and 15X8
Or if I did 15" HE SAID "I have 15x8 with -19 or 0 offset"
These cars are old enough now I can't get any meaningful advise from the wheel sellers. I think they just import and flip.
I would like to go with a more or less STOCK suspension but I do like the look of bigger wheels. However, with the right wider tires I think 15" is OK as well
Anyone of you members maybe work at a tire shop to let me know if any of the above stuff is going to work on the 69?
I don't think I want to go all the way to 14" because if I put discs in the front, I understand they want you to have at least a 15" rim
A little more info came....
I was told by the wheel seller that in 15" they had in a 7" wide either a -7 offset, OR a +6
And I was told on the 15" at 8" wide they have 0 (zero) off set OR a -19
I think she was implying the +5 in the front and a -19 in the back would give it a meaner stance. But she said she wasn't sure I could go 8" wide in the back without issues
On the old Weld wheels on there now, it has p295/50 R15 105S M+S that look amazing on the back and P22560R 15 on the front, IF that even matters as tires are really old bit look like they fit the car well
Questions are
With a stock set up (except front disc brakes), can a 8" wide rim fit the back of a charger with NO mods done
and
Will these offsets work, with the listed options of offsets?
If no one knows, but can refer me to someone that does, much appreciated
These are the rims.....the black ones are 18 only, the more gray torq type are the 15 (they also make 17 and 18's in those)
If you read any part of this thread before asking.... :P
A Charger has huge wheel wells. An 8" wheel is not a problem. I like getting matching wheels so I get all 4 in 8" but staggered 7" front and 8" rear is also fairly common. Of your choices, get 0 offset. Your front tires should easily fit with either width as long as you keep the offset near 0.
That rear tire on your car is fairly large. I'd almost bet the wheel that it is on is 9" or 10" wide. *Usually* a 275 is about the maximum recommended for an 8" wheel and you're wider than that. With a tire that big you need to be very careful with the spacing as it's probably fitting tight everywhere (although I have seen 325s fit in back with no modification). Again, 0 offset is likely the best route. On a 10" wheel this will be 5.5" backspacing (5" backspacing on 9" wheel). I'd measure the ones that are already on the car to be sure.
Troy
Thanks Troy.
Quote from: ikbrown on October 23, 2018, 03:38:46 PM
Hi all, first off thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! It was a great resource when I was looking into my wheel and tire setup and researching different options. Just installed my wheels and tires recently so I'm excited to be able to post my setup for posterity and hopefully help someone in the process!
I wanted to go for a poser stock-car look so I went with some Wheel Vintiques 63 series steelies mounted on 'Goodyear Radial T/As' ;) (put Goodyear tire stickers on the blackwall side of some BFGs). Very happy w/ the look overall and fitment of the setup but not very happy with Wheel Vintiques – I'll get to that in a sec.
But first, the specs!
Front: 15x8 (4" bs) on 245/60/15
Rear: 15x10 (5.25" bs) on 295/50/15
I ordered custom backspacing for the rear since the standard backspacing of 5.5" put the tires too far inward so it was rubbing on the inside fender. 5.25" centers it just perfectly for mine and I have no rubbing issues front or rear, even with 3 people in the car.
As far as Wheel Vintiques, I wasn't pleased with the custom backspacing wait time and the finish of the wheels. When I put in the custom backspacing order I was quoted 4-6 weeks and it took 8. The finish on the custom order wheels did not match the standard backspacing wheels I got for the front and the finish on the wheel edges was damaged pretty badly. Since I didn't want to deal with waiting another 8 weeks for replacements I just took them to a local powdercoater and had them repowdercoated to match the fronts. Came out looking great but in hindsight I would've pursued buying them through Pete Paulsen Motorsports (recommended by the powdercoater) or Stockton Wheel.
Onto the pictures!
(https://i.imgur.com/gaAovich.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nJiOIu8h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SLTqeOch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dkQKCqvh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tcEiViCh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GZU1bNFh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SiNyOvph.jpg)
I think you about
NAILED IT ! Great looking Charger, absolutely fantastic stance.
WOW, just read twenty pages of info on rims and tires and I gotta say it was a great read..Just got my '68 Charger and looking for steelies for it and feel good about what I'm looking for.. thanks
275/60/15 ON A SECOND GENERATION CHARGER
After reading every single post on this thread for months - I, like many, took the collective advice here and bought $1000 (In 2016, sorry it took so long to post this!) worth of wheels and tires for my 69 Charger RT. Thank you to all who have posted as I enjoyed looking at every combination from 14" slot mags to 15" steal rims to 17 - 18" modern styles and they are all a compliment to these cars.
I went with the common American Racing TTO (Torque Thrust Original) in a staggered size in 15" for the old school look. My 14" magnum 500's with all original 50 year old suspension was fine for the past 20 years but I wanted a slight rake to the car with wider and taller tires in the back. I also wanted the rims to have the same appearance even though they are staggered in width.
After much reading here, the question of, "WILL 275/60"s FIT THE REAR OF MY CAR" was my focus of research. I found several members who had no issues with rubbing on this size tire with the small 3.75" backspace so I went to America's Tire during a sale and bought:
15" x 7" TTO's with Cooper Cobra 235/60/15's for the front
15" x 8.5" TTO's with Cooper Cobra 275/60/15's for the rear.
Both front and rear rims have a 3.75 backspace.
For reference, the suspension is all original with over 100 k miles, original quarter panels and factory 4 wheel power drum brakes. It sits very level with the same size tire on all 4.
The result was exactly what I was looking for. A slight rake and wide tires that fit without any rubbing or modification. The factory 355 sure grip rear has much longer legs now with the tall 275's but I have plenty of power with the 440 auto so it's not an issue. A 323 rear gear might be for some I imagine. Unfortunately I hate that these rims are Chinese made (As is many things these days!). I have owned the true original American Racing Torque Thrusts years ago on a 69 Road Runner and it is true, these are not the same. The new ones have a machined surface instead of a polished surface like the originals. Good luck finding a nice set of polished originals that are affordable. For the price, these are very nice, the quality is decent and the Cooper Cobra is a great tire. The balance is perfect so far on them.
Anyway, hope this helps for those sitting on the fence about what wheels you might put on your Charger. Your time reading this thread will help you make your decision! The photos are from the first car show with the new wheels.
Randy
Looks good :2thumbs:
This is an 18 inch rim
:o
In 2003, I bought my wheels. The bigger wheel trend was already in place and even though I have never been one to jump onto a bandwagon, I embraced the larger diameter theme quickly. I didn't want super low profile tires though. I went with 18x10s out back with a 295-45-18. Now I am tempted to go with a lower profile because to me, the rear wheelwell looks a bit overstuffed. Fronts are 18x9 with a 275-40-18.
This forum sucks ass for posting pictures. I get tired of having to rename an image that I have posted before. The explanation as to why is an unacceptable reason as well.
Quote from: thor on February 10, 2020, 07:44:45 PM
:o
try this site to resize pictures ! use 600 pixels width https://picresize.com/b5dbc1c848cd7c
Quote from: Challenger340 on August 08, 2019, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: ikbrown on October 23, 2018, 03:38:46 PM
Hi all, first off thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! It was a great resource when I was looking into my wheel and tire setup and researching different options. Just installed my wheels and tires recently so I’m excited to be able to post my setup for posterity and hopefully help someone in the process!
I wanted to go for a poser stock-car look so I went with some Wheel Vintiques 63 series steelies mounted on ‘Goodyear Radial T/As’ ;) (put Goodyear tire stickers on the blackwall side of some BFGs). Very happy w/ the look overall and fitment of the setup but not very happy with Wheel Vintiques – I’ll get to that in a sec.
But first, the specs!
Front: 15x8 (4" bs) on 245/60/15
Rear: 15x10 (5.25" bs) on 295/50/15
I ordered custom backspacing for the rear since the standard backspacing of 5.5” put the tires too far inward so it was rubbing on the inside fender. 5.25” centers it just perfectly for mine and I have no rubbing issues front or rear, even with 3 people in the car.
As far as Wheel Vintiques, I wasn’t pleased with the custom backspacing wait time and the finish of the wheels. When I put in the custom backspacing order I was quoted 4-6 weeks and it took 8. The finish on the custom order wheels did not match the standard backspacing wheels I got for the front and the finish on the wheel edges was damaged pretty badly. Since I didn’t want to deal with waiting another 8 weeks for replacements I just took them to a local powdercoater and had them repowdercoated to match the fronts. Came out looking great but in hindsight I would’ve pursued buying them through Pete Paulsen Motorsports (recommended by the powdercoater) or Stockton Wheel.
Onto the pictures!
(https://i.imgur.com/gaAovich.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nJiOIu8h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SLTqeOch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dkQKCqvh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tcEiViCh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GZU1bNFh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SiNyOvph.jpg)
I think you about NAILED IT !
Great looking Charger, absolutely fantastic stance.
:2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :drool5:
Quote from: RTsehibb on December 19, 2019, 01:02:36 AM
275/60/15 ON A SECOND GENERATION CHARGER
After reading every single post on this thread for months - I, like many, took the collective advice here and bought $1000 (In 2016, sorry it took so long to post this!) worth of wheels and tires for my 69 Charger RT. Thank you to all who have posted as I enjoyed looking at every combination from 14" slot mags to 15" steal rims to 17 - 18" modern styles and they are all a compliment to these cars.
I went with the common American Racing TTO (Torque Thrust Original) in a staggered size in 15" for the old school look. My 14" magnum 500's with all original 50 year old suspension was fine for the past 20 years but I wanted a slight rake to the car with wider and taller tires in the back. I also wanted the rims to have the same appearance even though they are staggered in width.
After much reading here, the question of, "WILL 275/60"s FIT THE REAR OF MY CAR" was my focus of research. I found several members who had no issues with rubbing on this size tire with the small 3.75" backspace so I went to America's Tire during a sale and bought:
15" x 7" TTO's with Cooper Cobra 235/60/15's for the front
15" x 8.5" TTO's with Cooper Cobra 275/60/15's for the rear.
Both front and rear rims have a 3.75 backspace.
For reference, the suspension is all original with over 100 k miles, original quarter panels and factory 4 wheel power drum brakes. It sits very level with the same size tire on all 4.
The result was exactly what I was looking for. A slight rake and wide tires that fit without any rubbing or modification. The factory 355 sure grip rear has much longer legs now with the tall 275's but I have plenty of power with the 440 auto so it's not an issue. A 323 rear gear might be for some I imagine. Unfortunately I hate that these rims are Chinese made (As is many things these days!). I have owned the true original American Racing Torque Thrusts years ago on a 69 Road Runner and it is true, these are not the same. The new ones have a machined surface instead of a polished surface like the originals. Good luck finding a nice set of polished originals that are affordable. For the price, these are very nice, the quality is decent and the Cooper Cobra is a great tire. The balance is perfect so far on them.
Anyway, hope this helps for those sitting on the fence about what wheels you might put on your Charger. Your time reading this thread will help you make your decision! The photos are from the first car show with the new wheels.
Randy
nice looking charger :2thumbs:
After reading this entire thread I still have some questions. Bear with me please. Subject vehicle is a 69 charger, stock suspension, factory rear with factory front disc brakes. Time for some new wheels and tires. My idea at the moment is the following:
Wheels - Crager ss. 15x7, 4.25 or 4.5 offset, 5x4.5 bolt pattern. 235/60/15. Front
Crager ss. 15x8, 4.25 or 4.5 offset, 5x4.5 bolt pattern. 275/60/15. Rear
1) will I be good on this with no rubbing or clearance issues?
2) will they physically fit?
3) there are several "ss" wheels that look the same. Opinions?
4) are there other options I should be considering?
Not really trying to get all the meat I can under it just want it to look clean and close to stock.
Is that vexer wheel well site or tool online anywhere?
I see many people asking how well 275/60-15 tires fit on 8" and 10" rims, so here's how they fit on my '69 Chargers. The black one has original R/T leafs with the front hangar flipped, lowering it about 1", and has them mounted on 15x8 Magnums, 4-1/2 backspace, 0 offset. There's evidence of them rubbing, but I've never noticed it while driving. The Cordovan has original 383 leafs, mounted on 15x10 steelies, 5-1/2" backspace, 0 offset. I can only hear them rubbing when turning into steep driveways, or driving through the drainage ditch on my street to park. That's probably the only time the black Charger rubbed, too.
275/60-15 on 15x8 rear, 245/60-15 on 15x7 front. I think this gives the perfect look.
(https://i.imgur.com/eSabVAX.jpg?1)
Rubs on inner wheel well
(https://i.imgur.com/41Jacmk.jpg?1)
Rubs the outer wheel well hump
(https://i.imgur.com/JcJgo7I.jpg?1)
Outer wheel well clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/cUpmN5c.jpg?2)
Inner wheel well clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/q7U1E10.jpg?1)
Leaf spring clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/fRTZCoZ.jpg?1)
275/60-15 on 15x10 rear, 205/65-15 on 15x8 front. Ride height is ok, but the front tire is too small for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/gYdeaKA.jpg?1)
Rubs inner wheel well
(https://i.imgur.com/cF99lO1.jpg?1)
Rubs outer wheel well
(https://i.imgur.com/XSJFmAu.jpg?1)
Outer wheel well clearance. You can see the hump prominently intruding into the wheel well. My Coronet has this, too. Do Plymouths have them?
(https://i.imgur.com/hLuY2T3.jpg?1)
Inner wheel well clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/lp8cTES.jpg?1)
Leaf spring clearance
(https://i.imgur.com/uMMCwAE.jpg?1)
Quote from: khodne on January 18, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
Just put Mickey Thompson ET Drag Radials on. 295/65/15 on 15x10's. They fit much better than the 325/50's that were on the car.
I apologize, I know this is a really old thread, but was reading through it and was wondering about your comment on the 325s. Did you have problems with the 325s rubbing? I was thinking of those for my 70 Charger.
Don't know the answer, but found this thread. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=54403.20 (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=54403.20)
I'm thinking of changing my tires and rims on the front. I currently have 235/60/15 BFG on a Wheel Vintiques Magnum 500 15x7 with 4 1/4" backspace. Thinking of going with a 245/60/15 Cooper Radial GT on a Wheel Vintiques Magnum 500 15x8 with 4 1/2" backspace. Would there be any clearance issues with the extra 1/4" backspace? My rears are BFG 295/50/15 on a Magnum 500 15x10 with 5" backspace. I do have SS springs. I'm just switching from BFG to Cooper Radial GT tires and not the rims.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45075.0;id=73915;image
Lots of people run 4.5" BS on the front without any issues. I run a 255/45R18 on the front with an 8" wheel and 4.5" BS with no problems. I did have to add a small spacer to clear the disc brakes but everything fit up fine when I was running drums.
Quote from: 70sixpkrt on May 23, 2020, 06:12:27 PM
Thinking of going with a 245/60/15 Cooper Radial GT on a Wheel Vintiques Magnum 500 15x8 with 4 1/2" backspace. Would there be any clearance issues with the extra 1/4" backspace?
I tried my 275/60-15 on those rims. Lots on inside room, but really close on the lip of the fender, so you should be fine with 245/60-15. This was on my lowered Charger with the suspension compressed. I'll post some pics when I get home.
will a 15x8 with 4 1/4 with 235 60 15 backspacing fit on front without any problems? stock set up 69 charger.
Hey guys -
What size are the best looking/widest/beefiest tires you can
reasonably and correctly put on the stock wheels?
The wheels on my 68 Charger 383 are stock and they
currently have 215/75R/14. They look tiny and dinky to me.
Anything else I can get, preferably at Costco or Discount tire center?
Trying to be a bit budget because I spent all my disposable income on
engine rebuild.
Thanks!
14" tires are mostly extinct, at least in big enough diameters to use on a car the size of a Charger. They do exist but it's getting to be mail-order-only stuff. That, and reproductions that are expensive because they look authentic to the 50yo ones. There's about 2-3 companies to choose from and their newest 14" tire models were designed in the 1990s.
:Twocents:
If you aren't wedded to the 14" rim diameter on principle then make your life easier and switch to some 15" rims. The world is full of cheap used (and cheap new) 15s.
basically you are limited to:
215/70/14 (~F70-14) - stock size '68 R/T w/440
215/75/14
225/70/14 (~G70-14) - stock size '71 R/T w/440
by modern desired "LOOK" all the above may be considered too small on a second generation B-body
if you want to stay with the stock 14" wheels, the 215/70/14 & 225/70/14 are available in:
BFG Radial T/A
Cooper Cobra
Milestar Streetsteel
Hercules H/P 4000
General Altimax RT43
Hankook Kinergy ST H735
& probably a couple others .....
and currently a "discount" on BFG at Costco until the end of the month
Oh nice, thanks! I think I'll buy those 225/70/14 from Costco. Appreciate it.
Later down the line I'll get cragar SS and wider tires.
your wheels, if original to the Charger, should be 14x5.5"
Gotcha, thanks. So those 225/70/14 BFG should fit, correct?
Thanks!
Quote from: BrokenHero on January 22, 2021, 04:43:35 PM
Gotcha, thanks. So those 225/70/14 BFG should fit, correct?
Thanks!
Chrysler wouldn't put a G70-14 on a 5.5" wheel (6.0" was used) - on a 5.5" wheel, it is not ideal but it has been done plenty of times
I have a thread on here about my 1968 Charger mods, but figured I would post something here for those interested.
**NOTE** - Will have better pics soon with it on the ground after my suspension/brakes are completed.
I have videos posted on this topic on my Youtube page - www.youtube.com/98saleen
My Charger came with 15x7 American Racing wheels (VN5155765) and Cooper Tires 235-60-15 when I bought it last year.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/n28/98saleen/IMG_0952.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/98saleen/a/930a44bc-07b9-4c6e-81cd-34f0bbec9f17/p/0265d93b-e96f-495d-9cb0-7dc9a97198d9)
I am currently upgrading my suspension and brakes and just happen to have quite a few sets of Mustang Wheels laying around.
So the bolt pattern is the same (5x114.3 OR 5x4.5) but the center hub size is different.
Mustang = 70.5mm, Charger 71.5mm
I put some wheel spacers on it in a 1" offset with a larger center hub to ensure it would fit properly.
I can fit any of my 94-2004 mustang wheels on it now without any problem.
I have a set of Mach 1 wheels that I put onto it.
Specs -
Front wheels
18x9 - AFS Wheels - Mach 1 style
Tires - 275-35-18 Toyo T1
Rear wheels
18x10.5 - AFS Wheels - Mach 1 style
Tires - 305-35-18 Toyo R888R
Fit like a glove!
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/n28/98saleen/IMG_8835.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/98saleen/a/930a44bc-07b9-4c6e-81cd-34f0bbec9f17/p/06751a6c-b8ce-40a5-a0ae-64588a9f3b3f)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/n28/98saleen/IMG_8837.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/98saleen/a/930a44bc-07b9-4c6e-81cd-34f0bbec9f17/p/cfbe246e-0240-49bc-9114-a0eb67eb480c)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/n28/98saleen/IMG_1270.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/98saleen/a/930a44bc-07b9-4c6e-81cd-34f0bbec9f17/p/5530a82c-85e8-4c30-8eb8-63b1068c9b20)
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Updated 6/1/2021 - Had some photos snapped this past weekend.
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US Wheel 17x8, 5" backspace. 4.5" would have been better, but it's all they offer. The dog dishes are too loose. They just slip off by hand. I heard other people have had the same problem with aftermarket wheels. More shitty aftermarket quality. Maybe I can try to weld a tiny bit of bead on there. Tires are 245/50ZR17 Michelin Pilot Sport AS4. I needed something that didn't slide everywhere in the rain. BFGoodrich and Cooper Cobra weren't cutting it, and these tires are getting great reviews dry and wet, hot and cold.
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Quote from: 375instroke on August 06, 2021, 11:34:06 PM
US Wheel 17x8, 5" backspace. 4.5" would have been better, but it's all they offer. The dog dishes are too loose. They just slip off by hand. I heard other people have had the same problem with aftermarket wheels. More shitty aftermarket quality. Maybe I can try to weld a tiny bit of bead on there. Tires are 245/50ZR17 Michelin Pilot Sport AS4. I needed something that didn't slide everywhere in the rain. BFGoodrich and Cooper Cobra weren't cutting it, and these tires are getting great reviews dry and wet, hot and cold.
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Nice. How's the cornering response and noise level of the Michelin PS A/S4? I'm currently checking the tires on 4wheelonline and can't decide between that and the DWS06 Plus.
Response is great. I had BFG on before, and these feel a lot better. Car has 1.04" torsions, 1-1/8" front sway bar, Firm Feel UCA, original R/T leafs with hangar flipped, QA1 adjustables, and old cop car steering box. I haven't found the limits of the suspension with the old tires, so I probably won't with these. Rain's a different story. Slide and hydroplane everywhere with the BFG on this car, and Cooper Cobra on my other Charger. I haven't noticed tire noise.
Quote from: 375instroke on August 19, 2021, 12:34:04 AM
Response is great. I had BFG on before, and these feel a lot better. Car has 1.04" torsions, 1-1/8" front sway bar, Firm Feel UCA, original R/T leafs with hangar flipped, QA1 adjustables, and old cop car steering box. I haven't found the limits of the suspension with the old tires, so I probably won't with these. Rain's a different story. Slide and hydroplane everywhere with the BFG on this car, and Cooper Cobra on my other Charger. I haven't noticed tire noise.
Nice to know that. Now I know what to get. Thanks.
Updated 1-2022 -
Put new Nitto G2 555 tires on it front and rear.
Went up a size in height on the backs.
Fronts - 275-35-18
Rears - 295-40-18
Wheels - 18x9 front and 18-10.5 rears
Suspension - QA1 front upper control arms, Hotchkis rear leaf springs, with Hotchkis/Fox shocks front and rear. Has 1" longer shackles on rear as well.
I rolled the torsion bars down and then got it aligned as close as I could to the following specs -
Caster - +3.5*
Camber - -0.5*
Toe - 1/16"
It rides and handles more like a modern muscle car now. I love it.
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Very nice!
Updated 8/31/2022
Finally got my American Racing Vector wheels in (been waiting 3 months!) and Cooper Cobra tires.
15x7 front and rear sizes (8.5 wheels are still on backorder till end of year)
235-60-15 front
275-60-15 rear
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Old school cool. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TTSaleen on August 31, 2022, 11:02:01 AM
Updated 8/31/2022
Finally got my American Racing Vector wheels in (been waiting 3 months!) and Cooper Cobra tires.
15x7 front and rear sizes (8.5 wheels are still on backorder till end of year)
235-60-15 front
275-60-15 rear
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Nice!
There was a Duke's episode where they painted the general green. Always thought the green with the vectors was such a cool look. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TTSaleen on August 31, 2022, 11:02:01 AMUpdated 8/31/2022
Finally got my American Racing Vector wheels in (been waiting 3 months!) and Cooper Cobra tires.
15x7 front and rear sizes (8.5 wheels are still on backorder till end of year)
235-60-15 front
275-60-15 rear
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Those are awesome. Any chance you know the backspace on those wheels? Doing 15's on my 69 and that's just about the perfect look.
Hi Guys. I have a problem, I'm looking for a solution.
Dad passed away, now I have the car in my sister's garage. The tires were rotting off, so I jacked the car up, took the American Racing Vector wheels off and brought them to a shop to have the tires removed. The car is on blocks (and it hasn't run since 1992), so now I know it is safe and sound, no one will roll it away.
I was niece and thought I could just get a cheap set of 4 tires for $100 to throw on the wheels, but at the shop, the guy laughs and says they don't make tires for these anymore—they have to be ordered and they are spendy.
Now I need to move it from the garage. I need a budget option to get this car rolling onto a trailer.
I did read through a lot of this thread, but to be honest with you, it's coming across as a different language. References to backspace and certain brands and wheel bore size and alterations ... does not compute right now. (But all your wheels and tires look amazing!)
Is my cheapest option to buy a pair of the Cooper Cobras (like above?) Amazon lists them for $150 per tire (so times four would be $600 plus ~$80 mounting), which would put me at almost $700 to get the car onto a trailer. Is there a better option here?
Thanks in advance!
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p.s. I did call some local junkyards for cheep rim and tire combos, but they told me they wouldn't have anything that would fit a 1969 Charger.
Quote from: family_dodge on May 18, 2023, 01:16:17 PMHi Guys. I have a problem, I'm looking for a solution.
Dad passed away, now I have the car in my sister's garage. The tires were rotting off, so I jacked the car up, took the American Racing Vector wheels off and brought them to a shop to have the tires removed. The car is on blocks (and it hasn't run since 1992), so now I know it is safe and sound, no one will roll it away.
I was niece and thought I could just get a cheap set of 4 tires for $100 to throw on the wheels, but at the shop, the guy laughs and says they don't make tires for these anymore—they have to be ordered and they are spendy.
Now I need to move it from the garage. I need a budget option to get this car rolling onto a trailer.
I did read through a lot of this thread, but to be honest with you, it's coming across as a different language. References to backspace and certain brands and wheel bore size and alterations ... does not compute right now. (But all your wheels and tires look amazing!)
Is my cheapest option to buy a pair of the Cooper Cobras (like above?) Amazon lists them for $150 per tire (so times four would be $600 plus ~$80 mounting), which would put me at almost $700 to get the car onto a trailer. Is there a better option here?
Thanks in advance!
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p.s. I did call some local junkyards for cheep rim and tire combos, but they told me they wouldn't have anything that would fit a 1969 Charger.
I'm not sure about American Fords but a lot of full size Australian Fords had the same stud pattern as our cars.
When I bought my 70 Charger, the previous owner gave me a set of late 70s/early 80s Falcon rims that he used to take the car for inspection for licensing here.
I'm sure someone here will know what model car you'd get a set off, even if the tyres are average.
:iagree: I used some 17" Ford Mustang rims this winter
Quote from: metallicareload99 on May 26, 2023, 03:40:24 PM:iagree: I used some 17" Ford Mustang rims this winter
Great! So I could just add late-70s model Fords as a junkyard option.
Yes, Ford uses the same bolt pattern. I'm sure any five lug Mustang will work. Try Dodge vans, too. Usually some in any junk yard.