Found a nice lady to help me with it. I was out for a drive on a secondary highway when a lady in an SUV pulled out of a parking lot. I slammed on the brakes but she kept coming. I veered to the left but she never stopped. It was a hard impact. Both of us had only slight injuries. I feel worse today. I don't know if the car is a write off or not.
Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!
Did they charge her???
Quote from: J.Bond on May 21, 2012, 08:59:09 AM
Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!!
Did they charge her???
Yes they did. I didn't ask what the charge was. She was found totally at fault. The cops were on my side all the way.
Just sad
All it takes is one idiot.
Hope your OK!!!
Very sorry to hear/see this,this is our worst fear with any of our collector/classic cars,rergardless of having insurance coveragefor the loss. :rotz:
Holy crap I feel bad for you :rotz: the main thing is that nothing really serious happen to you. I know you must be hurting inside its going to take a little while to decide what to do with the car. Keep us posted.
:brickwall: How do you not see a bright red car?
Sorry to hear, luckily your ok and I hope the car makes a full recovery too.
Also looks like a solid double yellow
Thanks guys. It was a super clean car, painted undercarriage and all. All original panels, glass, floors. Never had anything more than traces of rust. I finally got it running and tuned to a state of perfection this weekend for the first time ever. I was determined that I would drive and enjoy the car. No museum status for me. I also accepted the fact that one day, someone might hit it. That doesn't upset me much. Accidents happen. I would be much angrier if someone ran a nail down the side of it. I'm just glad nobody got seriously hurt.
Quote from: 440 on May 21, 2012, 09:22:57 AM
:brickwall: How do you not see a bright red car?
Sorry to hear, luckily your ok and I hope the car makes a full recovery too.
Also looks like a solid double yellow
Actually, I was in the right lane where the SUV is. The skid marks go much further back. As you can see, I ended up in the oncoming lanes. I'm so lucky nothing hit me head on. A lot of big trucks use that road.
The double yellow isn't broken so she shouldn't have crossed there anyways....
Quote from: 440 on May 21, 2012, 09:42:18 AM
The double yellow isn't broken so she shouldn't have crossed there anyways....
Actually, she's allowed to turn there (when no cars are coming). I found out that lap belts really work, it's just that people didn't wear them in the old days. I just managed to get the hood open. Here is a pic showing how much it got pushed back.
Help me understand the impact. She was pulling out from the right in your picture going to turn left and hit you head on? :o
Ouch!!! Man that sucks, sorry to hear your baby is probably a gonner :rotz:
Interesting, I thought you couldn't cross a double yellow unless it was broken for a driveway etc. I looked it up and in most states you can as long as it is always on the left.
I don't have enough Cuss words in my vocabulary for some ^@?^%^@&^#/$&@$^@! MORON like that :RantExplode: :RantExplode: :RantExplode: :RantExplode: :RantExplode:
What a damn pill to swallow..glad you are okay but I would be livid at her! I was really looking forward to seeing that car in person this summer. Again I am sorry to hear this happened to you and your machine as it must be a nightmare.
Wow! That sucks!
Quote from: PocketThunder on May 21, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
Help me understand the impact. She was pulling out from the right in your picture going to turn left and hit you head on? :o
The impact spun her vehicle around. She was in the driveway on the right trying to pull out to turn left. You can see all the dust marks on the pavement where other cars have turned there. I was in the right lane closest to the driveway. You can see how my skid marks suddenly change direction at the moment of impact. She probably only looked left once and was looking right as she went across. It's an awful road. The worst around here. Many people killed there all the time.
So sorry!!!!! You've got a better attitude about it than I would. Hope you can get her fixed. That will NOT buff out.......
That sucks !!
I hope the insurance companies take car of you.
Glad your not seriously injured.
In CA you can cross the road a double yellow to enter or leave the roadway but you cannot cross to pass other cars. If there is a double double set of yellow lines then you cannot cross period.
Sorry to see but good that you're not seriously hurt.
This is exactly why I will not ride a street bike.
I have to say, you have an attitude most of us would pay good money for. Cops would have had to pry my hands of her throat.
So sorry to see your baby like that but I agree, better this than someone running a nail down the side. At least this was an accident.
You're insured, you'll be able to have her better than new once more but it still sucks.
So sorry buddy.
As long as you and her are not injured then it's a good day... insurance will cover the car - these things happen
Wow, sorry to hear about this, especially after you just got it to the point of enjoyable driving. I am surprised you were not more seriously hurt, that impact moved the radiator not far from where the hood hinges are. dang!
Good to hear nobody got really hurt.Looks like it might have some firewall - floor pan damage from that impact.Still if the rest of the car is really solid it probably is worth fixing.
im surprised that so much damage was done hitting a crush can. those things are made to collapse to take the blow, but it really collapsed that front end of the charger also. it must be because it took the blow on the side of the suv instead of head on? :shruggy: i see where her tire kinda drug sideways.
oh my god tahi is very hard good luck for you and your car :-\
Sorry for your loss... you should let the car rot in your yard to remind you of how fragile life is... and have some kick-ass yard art.
Your attitude is amazing, however when her insurance company starts to screw you, it will change rapidly.
Glad you are not hurt, becasue with only lap belts a face full of sterring wheel is no fun.
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 21, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
im surprised that so much damage was done hitting a crush can. those things are made to collapse to take the blow, but it really collapsed that front end of the charger also. it must be because it took the blow on the side of the suv instead of head on? :shruggy: i see where her tire kinda drug sideways.
Here is a pic of the other car. As you can see, I hit the most solid part of it and the damage is heavy also. My Charger still seems perfect from the doors back although the fenders are hooked over the door edges a bit. I couldn't open either door and had to do a dukes of hazzard move to climb out. I noticed I am becoming a little bitter about it. At first your just glad to be in one piece but then it sets in that every day will be boring and yes, you do wonder what the insurance will say. I will be sure to announce the results. Thank you all for the concern.
omg :o
Glad you're ok. Almost had a similar thing happen to me last weekend. It amazes me how stupid some drivers are.
I would have stayed in the car & laid there like a slug in the seat....bet she was on the cell phone too :rotz:
Sorry to see the car the way it is now. Glad to hear you are ok as well...
Your car was one of my inspirations to go back to my original R6....one day
Sorry. Is the frame bent? PLEASE rebuild if possible!
Quote from: billschroeder5842 on May 21, 2012, 06:19:25 PM
Sorry. Is the frame bent? PLEASE rebuild if possible!
I don't know if the frame is bent yet. I don't think it is. The K member is bashed in pretty good. The inner fender is badly damaged. One hood hinge is ripped right off and the cowl is bent too. The original windshield lives on. I think they will write it off, especially when they see the grade of shop it's going to.
You should have had the police check her cell phone for activity AT THE TIME OF THE CRASH ! she may have been texting and if so should lose her license for 6 months :icon_smile_angry: i think these idiotic measly fines for texting while driving are a joke and SOME of the people who do it also think the fines are laughable and no deterrant. I hope you get your car repaired because it is too hard to find another. get a police report and pictures.
IF she was pulling out of a parking lot then SHE IS AT FAULT PERIOD, YOU HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY !!! Did the cops say anything about your charger ???
glad your ok, hope the charger is repairable. such a beautiful car needs to live. :2thumbs:
She was found totally at fault. I think she looked left once and then spent the rest of the time looking right only. She was an older lady. Not likely texting. It is a tough highway to cross. The cops were admiring the car. They really liked it. Only one lane partway on the shoulder was open for traffic to get by. One guy in a passing car asked me twice if I wanted to sell it. Do they ever stop?
Not sure who you are insured with, but i assume it must be insured for north of 40k being an R/T and supper shape. I'd think they would fix it if the frame rails are ok. New AMD front clip,inners,firewall,bumper, grill, supports ect. We will say $5-6k in parts. I'd think $15k parts and labor would easily get it back on the road.
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 21, 2012, 08:02:39 PM
Not sure who you are insured with, but i assume it must be insured for north of 40k being an R/T and supper shape. I'd think they would fix it if the frame rails are ok. New AMD front clip,inners,firewall,bumper, grill, supports ect. We will say $5-6k in parts. I'd think $15k parts and labor would easily get it back on the road.
It's an R/T clone although probably one of the finest on the planet. Insured for $35,000 guaranteed payout if written off. I know you can get all new outer panels but, do they make replacement grilles? What about inner fenders and cowls? Being a clone, originality doesn't really matter. Top quality work does matter because it was a top quality car.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 21, 2012, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 21, 2012, 08:02:39 PM
Not sure who you are insured with, but i assume it must be insured for north of 40k being an R/T and supper shape. I'd think they would fix it if the frame rails are ok. New AMD front clip,inners,firewall,bumper, grill, supports ect. We will say $5-6k in parts. I'd think $15k parts and labor would easily get it back on the road.
It's an R/T clone although probably one of the finest on the planet. Insured for $35,000 guaranteed payout if written off. I know you can get all new outer panels but, do they make replacement grilles? What about inner fenders and cowls? Being a clone, originality doesn't really matter. Top quality work does matter because it was a top quality car.
AMD does not make a grill, but i thought there was somebody repoping the 69 grill. AMD does make inner fenders,upper and lower cowl,firewall, frame rails. The only thing i can think off they don't repop for the 68-70's is the door hinge pillar and inner 1/4 and roof structures. They even make door jambs.
I'm wondering what happens if say the frame rails are bent and they want to fix it,but you don't ?
I'm cautiously optimistic its repairable. I would go with the "assumptive sale" and approach the insurance company as if there's no question they're going to fix it. (If the rails are okay.) But it's not your insurance company you'll have to fight with, its hers – and they may try to lowball you and total it. Be prepared for a fight, and know what it would cost to replace that car because that's how much they need to pay out one way or the other. With Ebay, it's a nationwide market now too – go find some high dollar examples you can point to.
So very sorry! Let us know how this develops.
sorry for your loss.
I think it could be fixed, but it wont be cheap. hope the insurance works out. otherwise, I would probably make that into a prostreet style car, cut everything up front and make some serious suspension and engine there...
Here in Ontario, we have "no fault insurance" which I think means my insurance pays and that's it. My classic car insurance company is supposed to provide guaranteed full value payout based on my current appraisal. At this point, I don't know if it's a write off and I don't know whether I'd be happier with the money or fixing the car. I have tried to think of another car I'd like more but I can't because this one was so perfect for me. It would have been easier to decide a few weeks ago but as I mentioned earlier, I finally got it running perfect.
Who is your insurer?
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 22, 2012, 05:57:19 AM
Here in Ontario, we have "no fault insurance" which I think means my insurance pays and that's it. My classic car insurance company is supposed to provide guaranteed full value payout based on my current appraisal. At this point, I don't know if it's a write off and I don't know whether I'd be happier with the money or fixing the car. I have tried to think of another car I'd like more but I can't because this one was so perfect for me. It would have been easier to decide a few weeks ago but as I mentioned earlier, I finally got it running perfect.
Very glad you are ok. In the end, it's only a car. It is a beautiful car, but I think I would want it to be totalled, especially if there isn't an exceptional shop in your area. If the damage is that extensive, it will take a lot of skill to get it back to where it was, and the likelihood of it ever being the same is slim. There is so much potential for headaches if you don't get just the right shop to repair it. You may end up with a impossibly flawed car that you hate that has a damage history that makes it difficult to sell.
Someone will buy it and put it back on the road. I just don't think I would want to be the one. I would take the cash and look for a nice solid car that I can get in and enjoy and move on with my life. :Twocents:
The damage always looks far worse than it is. If you unbolt all the broken mess it will look a whole lot better. The frame can be straightened but it may be easier to just get another front clip. That call should be made when the front end is frame and cage only. Once that frame is done all the new parts will bolt back on. I've done hundreds of collisions like that and it's really no big deal to repair. Tons of new parts needed yes but that's what insurance is for. That car is not bad enough to let go, at all. Just my :Twocents:
I don't think there is any frame damage. It looks very repairable to me now that I know you can buy inner fenders and cowls. I was leaning towards hoping they write it off but now, I'm starting to hope they save it. I want to see if there is an opportunity to do a colour change. You will notice I gave this thread a DMCL title because the damage looks so much like the car in that movie. Fact is, I think I would like to paint it citron yella and make it into a DMCL replica as that is my favourite movie of all time. I bet many here would say leave it red as it is such a beauty but let's face it, the car is a non matching clone that has now taken a big hit. Perfect candidate for a movie tribute car. My favourite colour is hemi orange but, I get enough DOH comments as it is. All opinions are welcome. Thanks.
Well the car is repairable... they make almost every panel for these things now-a-days... The hardest thing to find will be the grille... but even those are not impossible to find.
Your attitude is great - just consider it a life lesson and continue on - life is too short to spend it pissed off
awwwwwww nooooooooooo :icon_smile_blackeye: :'( sorry to see this , crikey , glad no one was hurt , you going to get it repaired ?
do the doors open & close ok ? has the engine hit the fire wall ?
She is your car who cares what others think :) DMCL clone would be awesome. Partially the reason i'm going top banana with my 70 r/t.
Back to the fixing thing. The good thing is you know what you have already, and the front end can be fixed easily. If you have to start from scratch with another car who knows what little gremlins are hiding.
I would get some yellow paint and a pallet of AMD parts and not look back :drive:
Wait a minute i have already bought 2 pallets of amd parts lol.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 22, 2012, 09:40:02 AM
I don't think there is any frame damage. It looks very repairable to me now that I know you can buy inner fenders and cowls. I was leaning towards hoping they write it off but now, I'm starting to hope they save it. I want to see if there is an opportunity to do a colour change. You will notice I gave this thread a DMCL title because the damage looks so much like the car in that movie. Fact is, I think I would like to paint it citron yella and make it into a DMCL replica as that is my favourite movie of all time. I bet many here would say leave it red as it is such a beauty but let's face it, the car is a non matching clone that has now taken a big hit. Perfect candidate for a movie tribute car. My favourite colour is hemi orange but, I get enough DOH comments as it is. All opinions are welcome. Thanks.
i for one love the idea. its yours and there arent really that many out there. i was really wanting to do one also, but didnt find a 69 when i was searching. found the 70. even thought about painting it that way anyway untill i found the color i used. i say go for it. bring her back as the DMCL. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 22, 2012, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 22, 2012, 09:40:02 AM
I don't think there is any frame damage. It looks very repairable to me now that I know you can buy inner fenders and cowls. I was leaning towards hoping they write it off but now, I'm starting to hope they save it. I want to see if there is an opportunity to do a colour change. You will notice I gave this thread a DMCL title because the damage looks so much like the car in that movie. Fact is, I think I would like to paint it citron yella and make it into a DMCL replica as that is my favourite movie of all time. I bet many here would say leave it red as it is such a beauty but let's face it, the car is a non matching clone that has now taken a big hit. Perfect candidate for a movie tribute car. My favourite colour is hemi orange but, I get enough DOH comments as it is. All opinions are welcome. Thanks.
i for one love the idea. its yours and there arent really that many out there. i was really wanting to do one also, but didnt find a 69 when i was searching. found the 70. even thought about painting it that way anyway untill i found the color i used. i say go for it. bring her back as the DMCL. :2thumbs:
got to be DMCL :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :yesnod: :coolgleamA:
Nothing wrong with hemi orange, you'll get the doh remarks regardless, that's not going to change.
I'm restoring 68 grilles at this moment for Troy, the site's owner, so if you need one please contact him. Where in Ontario are you? I'm in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I am pretty much only doing the plastic but since you need everything else I'm sure we can come up with something. I have frames, headlights, wiring, the works.
They will be restored to be as new, I don't take short cuts. Heck you can even pick the type of black and grey/silver!
The really sad part? That SUV will be back in the road in a couple months. like it never happened. That Charger will take a minimum of about 1 year to be in primer done correctly, and all parts located.
This is why I can't see these cars in the road as daily drivers. Now, turn in that claim, and get to ordering replacment parts.
Quote from: Cooter on May 22, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
The really sad part? That SUV will be back in the road in a couple months. like it never happened. That Charger will take a minimum of about 1 year to be in primer done correctly, and all parts located.
This is why I can't see these cars in the road as daily drivers. Now, turn in that claim, and get to ordering replacment parts.
That suv will be back on the road next week. When all the parts are lined up, the Charger will be right behind it, but it's not as easy as a modern car no.
Depending on the driving conditions it may or may not be a good daily. Safety or lack thereof is my main concern with these cars. My drive to work is about 20 minutes and I don't see why I can't use it as a daily all the time but it's not ideal no, not unless you modernise it a bit.
Glad to hear there is so much support for the DMCL car. I think I'll do it. It will be fun at the shows to park beside the guy with the near perfect GL car. Charger_fan, you make an excellent point. If I get another car, there could be many little gremlins hiding. If I keep this one, I will still know 90% of it. Tan top, you asked if the doors open. I think they do but, the fenders are overlapping just a touch so, I don't want to force them. I had to climb out on the highway DOH style. It was easier than I thought and fun too. I have talked to the insurance. They sound totally helpful so far. I've always had perfect experiences with insurance companies believe it or not. I will keep you all posted.
Seen this type of collision lots during my time as a collision investigator in the military. Judgeing from that a-pillar on the Hyundai that could have put you in her blind spot if she didn't pay attention, also everyones judgement on approaching traffic is different, hence getting cut off or worse as in your case. Looks like she was leaving a flower shop and wasn't paying attention enough to her main task..... driving. I feel for ya and hopefully your ins coy comes thru.What was the speed limit there must have been a 80 zone by the length of your skidmarks.
Quote from: Blown68Coronet on May 22, 2012, 02:38:10 PM
Seen this type of collision lots during my time as a collision investigator in the military. Judgeing from that a-pillar on the Hyundai that could have put you in her blind spot if she didn't pay attention, also everyones judgement on approaching traffic is different, hence getting cut off or worse as in your case. Looks like she was leaving a flower shop and wasn't paying attention enough to her main task..... driving. I feel for ya and hopefully your ins coy comes thru.What was the speed limit there must have been a 80 zone by the length of your skidmarks.
Sounds correct. Yes it was an 80 zone. I kinda wanted a DMCL car a while ago but, there was no way I was gonna change that nice paint job. Now it makes more sense. I will certainly have lots of time to locate the correct slotted mags. Here is another pic showing how short the car is now.
QuoteHere is another pic showing how short the car is now.
Well parking will be easier :icon_smile_big:
A smart car R/T.
Sad to see it this way.You should have no problem getting it back to it's glory.I'm for the DMCL look.Good luck.
Quote from: AirborneSilva on May 23, 2012, 05:36:57 AM
QuoteHere is another pic showing how short the car is now.
Well parking will be easier :icon_smile_big:
I can tell you one thing, there's now a lot more room to walk around in my garage. I have made up my mind. I am going with the DMCL look. I was also planning on pulling the motor before the car leaves so I can freshen up the bearings and to make it easier for the shop to work under the hood. I just hope I can make enough room to get the motor out. I still have to wait and see if the insurance company is going to save it. I'm going to jack the car up tonight to see if there is any frame damage.
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just saw this. Son of a &#&%@!
That car was awesome. I can't believe how well you are taking it. I've seen the car in person and it is stunning. I guess we won't be parking together at any shows this summer....damn what an absolute shame. If you are with Lant/Haggerty they should come through for you.
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/DodgeDon/013-1.jpg?t=1310606678)
Again who is your insurer?
I wouldn't really touch the car until the insurance company makes a decision. Easier to restore it back then to convert to DMCL.
Quote from: 440 on May 23, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
I wouldn't really touch the car until the insurance company makes a decision. Easier to restore it back then to convert to DMCL.
I think your right. I better not touch it. I don't know how insurance companies think and I've got way too much to lose. Thanks for the concern Don. I think the car will be better than ever once again. Tough time of year for the car to go off the road. I really have no idea how long it will be down for. I'll have to look up my insurer name when I get a chance. Hey Don, I value your opinion. What do you think of the DMCL idea for a car like mine? I'm tired of the red.
That's a damn shame. A driver not paying attention is one of my greatest fears when I take mine out.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 06:51:36 AM
Quote from: 440 on May 23, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
I wouldn't really touch the car until the insurance company makes a decision. Easier to restore it back then to convert to DMCL.
I think your right. I better not touch it. I don't know how insurance companies think and I've got way too much to lose. Thanks for the concern Don. I think the car will be better than ever once again. Tough time of year for the car to go off the road. I really have no idea how long it will be down for. I'll have to look up my insurer name when I get a chance. Hey Don, I value your opinion. What do you think of the DMCL idea for a car like mine? I'm tired of the red.
You should do whatever you want as it is your car. Honestly not a big fan of the DMCL or DOH look but that is just my opinion. I looked at the 69 Charger Registry to look at factory available colours and just based on my personal preferences, since you have a black interior I like the A4 Silver and I've come to like the look of a white Charger...with black V21 hood stripes and a black bumblebee stripe....I think that combo looks sharp. If you go DMCL I'm sure it will be the sharpest out there.
im speechless... hope everything works out. :'( this will be a very close watched thread for sure....
Quote from: Dodge Don on May 23, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 06:51:36 AM
Quote from: 440 on May 23, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
I wouldn't really touch the car until the insurance company makes a decision. Easier to restore it back then to convert to DMCL.
I think your right. I better not touch it. I don't know how insurance companies think and I've got way too much to lose. Thanks for the concern Don. I think the car will be better than ever once again. Tough time of year for the car to go off the road. I really have no idea how long it will be down for. I'll have to look up my insurer name when I get a chance. Hey Don, I value your opinion. What do you think of the DMCL idea for a car like mine? I'm tired of the red.
You should do whatever you want as it is your car. Honestly not a big fan of the DMCL or DOH look but that is just my opinion. I looked at the 69 Charger Registry to look at factory available colours and just based on my personal preferences, since you have a black interior I like the A4 Silver and I've come to like the look of a white Charger...with black V21 hood stripes and a black bumblebee stripe....I think that combo looks sharp. If you go DMCL I'm sure it will be the sharpest out there.
OK thanks for the honest opinion Don. I do like a '69 in silver. White is nice too but, not for me. It's still possible that I might go hemi orange with the same tail stripe. I'm all for anyone who goes the DOH route but I would never do it myself.
Silver = :drool5: .....DMCL would be cool also.
Quote from: Dodge Don on May 23, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
a white Charger...with black V21 hood stripes and a black bumblebee stripe....I think that combo looks sharp.
That's pretty much where I'm headed.
I never liked the DLCM Charger, or at least the color. The stripe is kinda cool. I had slot mags on my 68, they are nice rims and they're everywhere.
Do whatever your heart pleases 404, it's your car and whatever color you give it, it'll still be one fine 69! :2thumbs:
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 09:24:33 AM
I'm all for anyone who goes the DOH route but I would never do it myself.
Then, you better not paint it plain orange. You WILL get tired of "Where's the 01 and flag?" Comments as well...
Do the DMCL as not too many of the DOH fans today even know bout that car.
I'll trade you my slotted mags for your steel wheels, they are only 14's though :rotz:
If the NO FAULT Ontario Companies work like they do here in Quebec you can probably buy your car back from the Ins. company if they do want to scrap it and you want to keep it and repair it.You will not get the full amount of $$$ but you will get to keep your car and have some $$$ to play with.
GO DMCL.....
Quote from: 65post on May 23, 2012, 11:49:43 AM
If the NO FAULT Ontario Companies work like they do here in Quebec you can probably buy your car back from the Ins. company if they do want to scrap it and you want to keep it and repair it.You will not get the full amount of $$$ but you will get to keep your car and have some $$$ to play with.
GO DMCL.....
I'm sure he can buy back the car but then he will also have a "salvaged" title.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 09:24:33 AM
White is nice too but, not for me.
Really?
You don't see many in white but it's awesome
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/100_0175ss.jpg)
Quote from: AirborneSilva on May 23, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: 65post on May 23, 2012, 11:49:43 AM
If the NO FAULT Ontario Companies work like they do here in Quebec you can probably buy your car back from the Ins. company if they do want to scrap it and you want to keep it and repair it.You will not get the full amount of $$$ but you will get to keep your car and have some $$$ to play with.
GO DMCL.....
I'm sure he can buy back the car but then he will also have a "salvaged" title.
A salvaged title to someone like 404 who isn't lookin to flip it I don't think it really matters. An insurance company in QC will right off a car if its stolen for more than 30 days even if recovered on the 31st day and untouched. Most restored cars are reskinned anyway, so i don't see much difference in whether it was rotted or racked same difference on an old car. A newer car well thats a different story. I've bought a salvaged car before that was a theft recovery. As long as you look it over to make sure it wasn't something where it was wrecked and 2 cars joined into 1.
Quote from: 1BAD68 on May 23, 2012, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 09:24:33 AM
White is nice too but, not for me.
Really?
You don't see many in white but it's awesome
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g446/allsystemz/100_0175ss.jpg)
that car looks familiar... :rofl:
QuoteA salvaged title to someone like 404 who isn't lookin to flip it I don't think it really matters.
I'm sure you are right, if I was in his position I know I would still want to buy it back :yesnod:
UUUGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :faint:
I kinda skimmed over the title of this thread at first, not knowing what was inside.
So sorry to see this. That car is beautiful. Your positive attitude is certainly commendable. I wish you lots of luck & strength in repairing it. Hope everything works out for you.
:scope: I must say though, judging by the pictures you've posted it is a good indicator that there is inherent frame rail damage. Once the shop takes it apart it will reveal all hidden damages, I hope they are minimal.
Good luck!
Thanks again everyone for the interest and support. It does give me strength to get my car back off the ground. I am talking to a top notch mopar specialty shop. I don't want to post too many insurance details or shop info on a public forum until the deal is settled. I really do believe this car is easily repairable and will be even better than before. As for things like salvage titles and such, none of that bothers me. The car is a keeper. It's my damage and I know the history. Every piece of metal from the firewall back on this Texas car is original and clean as new inside and out. That's getting to be hard to find. I did think about whether I should get some other kind of car but the answer is clear. A '69 Charger is me. There can be no other model or even year. I still think it will have to be a DMCL car. I was talking about that long before the crash. Funny how my wife didn't like citron yella colour when I had to pay for it all. Suddenly she loves the colour, hmmm. As for the offer of slot mags for steelies, thanks but yes, I need 15".
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 01:16:32 PM
Thanks again everyone for the interest and support. It does give me strength to get my car back off the ground. I am talking to a top notch specialty shop. I don't want to post too many insurance details or shop info on a public forum until the deal is settled. I really do believe this car is easily repairable and will be even better than before. As for things like salvage titles and such, none of that bothers me. The car is a keeper. It's my damage and I know the history. Every piece of metal from the firewall back on this Texas car is original and clean as new inside and out. That's getting to be hard to find. I did think about whether I should get some other kind of car but the answer is clear. A '69 Charger is me. There can be no other model or even year. I still think it will have to be a DMCL car. I was talking about that long before the crash. Funny how my wife didn't like citron yella colour when I had to pay for it all. Suddenly she loves the colour, hmmm. As for the offer of slot mags for steelies but yes, I need 15".
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In the last pic it looks like the passengers wheel is back further in the hole. Is it just the fender mangling or is the whole shock tower pushed back ?
Looks like the door is out of align too. Wonder what moved ?
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 23, 2012, 01:39:36 PM
In the last pic it looks like the passengers wheel is back further in the hole. Is it just the fender mangling or is the whole shock tower pushed back ?
Looks like the door is out of align too. Wonder what moved ?
In that pic, the fender is pushing on the tire. The firemen later tried to beat the metal back with a sledge hammer with limited success to assist the tow truck driver. The door is ajar because I tried to open it and then realized the fender was touching. I couldn't close it easily like that especially at a time like that while I have cops, firemen and ambulance crews all wanting something from me so, I just left it hanging. BTW. I'm sure most of you wear your seat belts but I bet a few of you don't especially when the cops can't spot your lap belts. Have a look at the crash photos. I'm living, walking proof that seatbelts save. Remember what you saw in the movie DMCL. "What did that billboard say"?
Bummer. I'd guess best way to fix would be remove both frame rails with both inner fenders & Radiator core support all together in one piece from Donor car. Bolt on new parts (fenders, ect) & suspension & you'll be fine. Good luck. LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on May 23, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
Bummer. I'd guess best way to fix would be remove both frame rails with both inner fenders & Radiator core support all together in one piece from Donor car. Bolt on new parts (fenders, ect) & suspension & you'll be fine. Good luck. LEON.
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Ive been in a few love taps.. I always try to clear traffic, see if everyone's ok, you know.. calm in a crisis kinda guy... but if that was my car you'd have to pull me off her.. :flame:
Quote from: Patronus on May 23, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
Ive been in a few love taps.. I always try to clear traffic, see if everyone's ok, you know.. calm in a crisis kinda guy... but if that was my car you'd have to pull me off her.. :flame:
Well, 30 years ago that probably would have been me too but as I've gotten older I've realized that stuff happens and if you have something nice, it's gonna get damaged or stolen somehow. I poked around under the hood and under the car tonight to check for damage. It's much worse than I thought. The front frame is bent and even kinked. The K member is badly bent and smashed. The inner fender is torn apart and has crushed the headers. The firewall might be slightly caved in at the bottom. The front wheel is pushed back about a foot along with all the suspension. The center link has also crushed the headers at the bottom. Here is a more complete pic that shows how much it is pushed back. Can you believe I walked away from this?
I think most of us could learn something from you.
Quote from: 65post on May 23, 2012, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on May 23, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
Bummer. I'd guess best way to fix would be remove both frame rails with both inner fenders & Radiator core support all together in one piece from Donor car. Bolt on new parts (fenders, ect) & suspension & you'll be fine. Good luck. LEON.
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Yep. I also agree 100 %
Sorry about your accident. I really hope you fix it. Stories like this make me want to pull the tags and insurance off of my charger's and keep them in the garage.
404 disregard my post on the grilles, I had a brain fart and though you had a 68 for a minute, my bad.
Nothing in front of the firewall should remain, it has to go, all of it. Get a new front clip and all new suspension, k member, the works.
Quote from: Dino on May 24, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
404 disregard my post on the grilles, I had a brain fart and though you had a 68 for a minute, my bad.
Nothing in front of the firewall should remain, it has to go, all of it. Get a new front clip and all new suspension, k member, the works.
As long as things work out with the insurance, all will be well. I found an incredible shop that does amazing work. They say they can fix anything and Mopar muclecars are all they work on. More info on them later.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 24, 2012, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: Dino on May 24, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
404 disregard my post on the grilles, I had a brain fart and though you had a 68 for a minute, my bad.
Nothing in front of the firewall should remain, it has to go, all of it. Get a new front clip and all new suspension, k member, the works.
As long as things work out with the insurance, all will be well. I found an incredible shop that does amazing work. They say they can fix anything and Mopar muclecars are all they work on. More info on them later.
that's awesome :2thumbs:
Bring it to Hodges Mopar restorations, it will look better then new and be correct. Check out the site
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 23, 2012, 08:31:09 PM
Quote from: Patronus on May 23, 2012, 06:10:05 PM
Ive been in a few love taps.. I always try to clear traffic, see if everyone's ok, you know.. calm in a crisis kinda guy... but if that was my car you'd have to pull me off her.. :flame:
Well, 30 years ago that probably would have been me too but as I've gotten older I've realized that stuff happens and if you have something nice, it's gonna get damaged or stolen somehow. I poked around under the hood and under the car tonight to check for damage. It's much worse than I thought. The front frame is bent and even kinked. The K member is badly bent and smashed. The inner fender is torn apart and has crushed the headers. The firewall might be slightly caved in at the bottom. The front wheel is pushed back about a foot along with all the suspension. The center link has also crushed the headers at the bottom. Here is a more complete pic that shows how much it is pushed back. Can you believe I walked away from this?
I guess that means that the old UNIBODY mopars do better in crash tests than the OTHERS.......
Quote from: Patronus on May 23, 2012, 09:05:58 PM
I think most of us could learn something from you.
You betcha. I don't want to lecture people but, I feel it is my duty to show everyone what even a simple lap belt can do as I am now solid proof of that. Here's a pic from DMCL.
Yes, look at how the old Mopar unibody performed. Today, they talk about controlled crumple zones and cabin preservation. Looks like Chrysler got it right a long time ago.
I too didn't open this thread .
Ugg
All the best in getting the car back in top shape , I am glad you walked away as well .
Hard to believe that a Hyundai(?) could do that much damage to your car.
All the best with the outcome.
Quote from: doctor4766 on May 25, 2012, 04:23:33 AM
Hard to believe that a Hyundai(?) could do that much damage to your car.
All the best with the outcome.
I know what you mean. I'm certain the Hyundai is totalled. Bent wheel, rad bashed into the engine, air bag deployed. The insurance appraisal dude is coming by tommorrow. Is repair or write off his decision, anyone know? Do I have to wait for someone else to decide? This is the part that's hard is wondering what the outcome will be. I'm sure it will get fixed. Everything from the windshield back is still flawless.
You're taking this a helluva lot better than I would be. Hopefully the insurance pulls through.
when we restored a firebird for my son someone turned infront of him the second time out of the garage. the guys insurance company tried to lowball me and i complained about the new motor and new paint and such that went into this build. then my insurance company told me they would get their lawyer to look at it if i wasnt happy. well when i tiold the other ins. co. that they said "no, you have to get the lawyer, not your ins. co." i told them that state farm said they will supply the lawyer for me and that was the deal. so the guy calls back with a good offer and cuts me a check. :2thumbs: i think you said you have to settle there with your own ins. good luck, i hope they are fair.
if you do fix her, make sure they check all other body specs, my buddy had a hard hit like that in his 70 Challenger R/T, it actually crinkled the roof a little and his floor boards were messed up, it was totalled. i wish you all the luck yours may not be anywhere that bad. i can't imagine what it would be like for this to happen. At least you are ok, both my buddies knee caps were shaved off.
Quote from: TheGhost on May 25, 2012, 10:29:03 AM
You're taking this a helluva lot better than I would be. Hopefully the insurance pulls through.
I'm taking it well based on the fact it was an accident and the assumption that my car will be properly repaired at no cost to me. If things don't go perfectly with the insurance, it will be a whole new attitude. I won't accept any BS from them whatsoever.
You have my support to.
I have to drive my Charger on the 407etr tomorrow and now I am scared. Meaning that this will be on my mind and I will take extra precaution on my drive.
I am with LANT (broker) / Aviva Elite. I'm in Vaughan / North Toronto - just near by.
Mopar Spring Fling in Mississauga is on Sunday too... That's where I usually see you... That's to bad. I hope this works out painlessly for you.
Quote from: Cooter on May 22, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
The really sad part? That SUV will be back in the road in a couple months. like it never happened.
Not if the airbags deployed. The guy State Farm sent to our house to look at my wife's truck said if SF wanted to try & fix it that I should ask them if they're gonna sign off a waiver saying the new air bags will deploy if in another accident. But when he was through with his estimate, it come up with over $20k in repairs.
That intersection looks like a good place for one of these:
(http://www.exchange3d.com/images/uploads/aff186/No_Left_Turn_Text.jpg)
After that last pic of your ride, there's no way the frame rails aren't at least somewhat tweaked. Both of the frame rails' in my wife's truck were bent @ a 90 degree angle in her truck & the damage doesn't look as severe.
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/03%20Sport%20Hemi%20Ram%202wd/P1015286-1.jpg)
Even though our cars' are replaceable iron/art, you or her aren't. Glad you & her are OK.
It's kind of a pain in the rear but I wear my shoulder harness as well
most of the time. It wouldn't be so uncomfortable if the belt didn't dig into my neck.
Oh no... Just finished reading this thread, and my hats off to you 404.. You seem to be taking this very nice, way nicer than I think I could.. I hope you get a fair treatmemt from the insurance company... Best of luck..
Latest update. The appraiser looked at the car today. He was surprised to see me standing there when he saw the extent of the damage. I'm getting total cooperation. I will still be another week before I get a final answer because the appraiser knows that Charger parts are expensive and obviously the restoration costs have to be less than the write off price. If all goes well, the car will be going to a dedicated Mopar only restoration shop, more on that later. As for me, what slight injuries I have are fading fast and I will be 100% again soon. As for my car, it will be a lost season this year. The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it. Being that my car won't be costing me a dime to operate, it will allow me to save up for any changes I want to make as now is the time while the car is apart. If I can make the car even better and my way, it will be worth the wait. Thanks again everyone.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
Latest update. The appraiser looked at the car today. He was surprised to see me standing there when he saw the extent of the damage. I'm getting total cooperation. I will still be another week before I get a final answer because the appraiser knows that Charger parts are expensive and obviously the restoration costs have to be less than the write off price. If all goes well, the car will be going to a dedicated Mopar only restoration shop, more on that later. As for me, what slight injuries I have are fading fast and I will be 100% again soon. As for my car, it will be a lost season this year. The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it. Being that my car won't be costing me a dime to operate, it will allow me to save up for any changes I want to make as now is the time while the car is apart. If I can make the car even better and my way, it will be worth the wait. Thanks again everyone.
Hopefully I'll see you tomorrow at the Mopar Spring Fling and we can catch up.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
Latest update. The appraiser looked at the car today. He was surprised to see me standing there when he saw the extent of the damage. I'm getting total cooperation. I will still be another week before I get a final answer because the appraiser knows that Charger parts are expensive and obviously the restoration costs have to be less than the write off price. If all goes well, the car will be going to a dedicated Mopar only restoration shop, more on that later. As for me, what slight injuries I have are fading fast and I will be 100% again soon. As for my car, it will be a lost season this year. The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it. Being that my car won't be costing me a dime to operate, it will allow me to save up for any changes I want to make as now is the time while the car is apart. If I can make the car even better and my way, it will be worth the wait. Thanks again everyone.
10 months doing the repair and color change ie painting underneath and all ?
My 70 had been pretty much re-skinned,trunk floor,extensions, tail panel,rear valance, both full 1/4's, rear window frame rebuilt,rocker and some other patchwork in less than 3 months.
Like suggested above complete front clip from a donor car with complete rails would be the way to go. Much faster and probably a better fit than trying to piece together new AMD framerails,inners,rad support. I think the longest part would be finding parts that re not reproduced.
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 26, 2012, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
Latest update. The appraiser looked at the car today. He was surprised to see me standing there when he saw the extent of the damage. I'm getting total cooperation. I will still be another week before I get a final answer because the appraiser knows that Charger parts are expensive and obviously the restoration costs have to be less than the write off price. If all goes well, the car will be going to a dedicated Mopar only restoration shop, more on that later. As for me, what slight injuries I have are fading fast and I will be 100% again soon. As for my car, it will be a lost season this year. The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it. Being that my car won't be costing me a dime to operate, it will allow me to save up for any changes I want to make as now is the time while the car is apart. If I can make the car even better and my way, it will be worth the wait. Thanks again everyone.
10 months doing the repair and color change ie painting underneath and all ?
My 70 had been pretty much re-skinned,trunk floor,extensions, tail panel,rear valance, both full 1/4's, rear window frame rebuilt,rocker and some other patchwork in less than 3 months.
Like suggested above complete front clip from a donor car with complete rails would be the way to go. Much faster and probably a better fit than trying to piece together new AMD framerails,inners,rad support. I think the longest part would be finding parts that re not reproduced.
I hope your right. That is what the appraiser said but, It depends on the shop and other factors. I'm looking forward to my first visit to the shop assuming they don't write the car off which I doubt they will.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 08:17:01 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 26, 2012, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
Latest update. The appraiser looked at the car today. He was surprised to see me standing there when he saw the extent of the damage. I'm getting total cooperation. I will still be another week before I get a final answer because the appraiser knows that Charger parts are expensive and obviously the restoration costs have to be less than the write off price. If all goes well, the car will be going to a dedicated Mopar only restoration shop, more on that later. As for me, what slight injuries I have are fading fast and I will be 100% again soon. As for my car, it will be a lost season this year. The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it. Being that my car won't be costing me a dime to operate, it will allow me to save up for any changes I want to make as now is the time while the car is apart. If I can make the car even better and my way, it will be worth the wait. Thanks again everyone.
10 months doing the repair and color change ie painting underneath and all ?
My 70 had been pretty much re-skinned,trunk floor,extensions, tail panel,rear valance, both full 1/4's, rear window frame rebuilt,rocker and some other patchwork in less than 3 months.
Like suggested above complete front clip from a donor car with complete rails would be the way to go. Much faster and probably a better fit than trying to piece together new AMD framerails,inners,rad support. I think the longest part would be finding parts that re not reproduced.
I hope your right. That is what the appraiser said but, It depends on the shop and other factors. I'm looking forward to my first visit to the shop assuming they don't write the car off which I doubt they will.
Unfortunately, 10 months and longer isn't unusual for this type of situation. Not that it will actually take that long, but usually shops will do the quick and easy collision work first and put the time consuming projects on the back burner. You will be way ahead if you find a shop that specializes in older cars and is actually enthusiastic about this type of work. Otherwise you may be in for a long frustrating road ahead. I have seen this so many times before. The shop promises the world, then the car sits in the dusty corner untouched for months while the shop owner BSs the customer and strings them along. Most production type shops take on this type of work to fill in between other jobs. And whatever you do, DON'T tell them to take their time or say you aren't in a hurry. Try to get it in writing how long it will take. Give them a definite deadline and make sure they agree to it.
Ouch!!! Sorry aboutcar but it`s repairable. You have a good guardian angel
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 26, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
The appraiser thinks it will be 10 months to a year to restore it.
don't insurance jobs typically get priority at smash repairers?
just adding my 1c best wishes and glad you are ok.
Quote from: WhiteOnGreen on May 27, 2012, 09:11:43 AM
Ouch!!! Sorry aboutcar but it`s repairable. You have a good guardian angel
I sure do have a guardian angel. I've always noticed that. I just don't know why I deserve one. I've been doing some parts availability research. Very encouraging to say the least. Even if they wrote it off I figure I could do most of the repairs myself and pocket thousands. One way or another, the car will live again.
Where did it happen btw?......almost looks like Highway 6 between Guelph and Brantford
I am involved in the unibody repair business. You do have extensive unibody (frame) damage. As in the rails have been shortened up by about a foot. You need a complete front clip with suspension from a donor all the way back to the firewall. You do not yet know the level of secondary damage that has traveled through the car. You do not yet know the level of damage the drive line may have sustained.
I hope I am wrong, but I think it will be a tall order for the estimate to come in below the threshold of a total. Sure it can be fixed, but it just depends on the price. What is working against you is the price of the parts, and the specialized labor chewing up your available dollars for the repair.
You must take into account the unibody straightening time before all the old parts are removed. Then you have the welding and install of the donor structural parts. Then you have paint and refinish time and material costs. Will you be satisfied with a blend into the doors, or will the whole car be resprayed? No matter the sentiment of it being rust free, if they want to total it, it is probably in your best interest to take the money, walk away and buy another Charger.
Let's say they total the car and you decide to buy it back at an agreed price. Then you get into a salvage title. Are you willing to accept the diminished value of the repaired car that goes along with a salvage title? If the agreed price is fair, it could make sense to buy it back so you can transfer parts onto the next car.
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91812.0;attach=174081;image)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91812.0;attach=173913;image)
Would this work in your situation?
Schwartz Full Frame Chassis for 1968-1970 Mopar B-Body, Charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schwartz-Full-Frame-Chassis-1968-1970-Mopar-B-Body-Charger-Roadrunner-Etc-/160805580498?hash=item2570c26ed2&item=160805580498&pt=Race_Car_Parts&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schwartz-Full-Frame-Chassis-1968-1970-Mopar-B-Body-Charger-Roadrunner-Etc-/160805580498?hash=item2570c26ed2&item=160805580498&pt=Race_Car_Parts&vxp=mtr)
Quote from: DC_1(formerly Sydmoe) on May 27, 2012, 08:43:18 PM
Where did it happen btw?......almost looks like Highway 6 between Guelph and Brantford
Yup. That's where it happened.
Good news. The car has been examined. This was not the big crash that it appears to be. There was no big impact driving the entire frame rearward. There is no ripple through the body. No damage to the firewall. Not even a crack in the factory windshield. No damage to the drivers side at all. It was a concentrated impact similar to hitting a pole moderate speed. It was the corner of the SUV that punched the car next to the one frame rail with lots of angles involved which caused that rail to fold in typical unibody fashion. With the strongest part out of the way, the sheet metal and that decorative chrome strip that Chrysler laughingly refers to as a "bumper" were easily crushed making things look worse than they were.
Now it all makes sense. I am completely uninjured as is the lady (I checked on her yesterday). Not even slight whiplash. I remember the crash clearly. I never felt very scared. No feeling that I would die or even get badly hurt. My only feeling before and during impact was disappointment as my prediction was about to come true and I knew it would not buff out. Although I wasn't going very fast, I noticed that my useless tires were not scrubbing off much speed and collision was unavoidable. Even the impact didn't seem that bad. I got out of the car and was not shaken up in the slightest. I calmly walked to the trunk of my car and got the lady a lawn chair to sit on until the calvary arrived. Had the impact been severe, there is no way I could have walked away in that old lapbelt equipped car.
The repair should be relatively simple and not too expensive I think. Complete southern clips are available here in Canada for less than a grand. I've often heard that nobody makes hoods for these cars. As some of you know, AMD makes hoods and everything else. Nothing costs more than a grand. I bet I could fix the car myself if I had to. I'm starting to feel a bit happier now.
Quote from: GordonGriggs on May 28, 2012, 01:28:15 AM
Would this work in your situation?
Schwartz Full Frame Chassis for 1968-1970 Mopar B-Body, Charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schwartz-Full-Frame-Chassis-1968-1970-Mopar-B-Body-Charger-Roadrunner-Etc-/160805580498?hash=item2570c26ed2&item=160805580498&pt=Race_Car_Parts&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schwartz-Full-Frame-Chassis-1968-1970-Mopar-B-Body-Charger-Roadrunner-Etc-/160805580498?hash=item2570c26ed2&item=160805580498&pt=Race_Car_Parts&vxp=mtr)
I wouldnt recommend that for anyone, if you have to have a full-race-chassis under your car, get a good one and not that piece of joke.
Sounds somewhat promising 404...good luck :2thumbs:
Thanks Ridelikehell. As for my laidback attitude towards it all, if I was age 18 or so, I would probably have been screaming at her till the cops pulled me off and if it was a man, I might have punched him. I'm pushing 50 though and I'm grateful every day I wake up sucking air instead of pushing daisys. Take a stroll through the cemetary and have a look how close the dates are on so many headstones. Yup, lot's of folks never got a chance to save up for a Charger. Sure it bothers me that my car is damaged but one reason it's damaged is because I'm lucky enough to own one. It bothers me more that nobody has damaged my Bugatti Veyron. Why? Because I don't own a Bugatti Veyron and probably never will. As for the lady, if any of you still think I should strangle her, I don't have a problem with that either.
Nigel at nationalmoparts usually has a couple front clips from souther cars. He had one at barrie flea market or moparfest can't recall which last year. I think it was $850.
Defiantely the way to go.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 28, 2012, 06:19:59 AM
The repair should be relatively simple and not too expensive I think. Complete southern clips are available here in Canada for less than a grand. I've often heard that nobody makes hoods for these cars. As some of you know, AMD makes hoods and everything else. Nothing costs more than a grand. I bet I could fix the car myself if I had to.
Fix it yourself? Are you kidding me? You are underestimating the amount of labor and expense involved.
Quote from: Aero426 on May 28, 2012, 09:20:23 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on May 28, 2012, 06:19:59 AM
The repair should be relatively simple and not too expensive I think. Complete southern clips are available here in Canada for less than a grand. I've often heard that nobody makes hoods for these cars. As some of you know, AMD makes hoods and everything else. Nothing costs more than a grand. I bet I could fix the car myself if I had to.
Fix it yourself? Are you kidding me? You are underestimating the amount of labor and expense involved.
I agree. do yourself a favor and put it in a reputable shop that doesnt take forever to do it. when you tear it down, you WILL find a lot of things wrong with it, even in best case scenario. if you try to fix it yourself it might end up never getting back together, i dont want to be so negative but I have a car in my garage that hasnt been driven in 15 years and its straight and rustfree...
I agree with others. I would let a pro shop do it just to make sure it is done right. Glad to see you are still with us and hopefully the car can be repaired. If not, it can be replaced! Bottom line is as much as we love our cars and consider them a part of us, they are just a car and can be replaced.
Yes a shop is going to do it. They are getting paid to do it so why not.
Any estimates yet from the insurance? :popcrn:
Whose insurance is paying for it ? when you see all these cutrate ins. cos. out there, all of them with such cheap premiums for those people who should never be allowed to drive a car in the first place so they can have insurance, are the ones who refuse to pay what it costs to repair or replace a 1969 dodge charger or any other classic car that their IRRESPONSIBLE driver damaged.their opinions are always " the car is 45 years old, etc, etc. it is not worth THAT MUCH. I think that if you have collector car insurance, let them get the car repaired CORRECTLY the first time with real parts & by someone who KNOWS HOW TO DO IT RIGHT the first time, then let the classic car ins. co. GO AFTER THE CUTRATE JOINT to recover every penny.
Bert
I have heard from the insurance but, there is no decision yet as they are still sorting out parts prices. Fact is, I have a perfect, show grade car from the firewall back (well worth saving), and a huge mess up front. It is simply impossible to guess whether the car should be saved or written off. I had a closer look and can now see what happened. The front of one frame rail folded in two spots like a "Z". The K member is attached there and it moved which caused a lot more problems. As the K moved, it twisted the rail on the drivers side and as it moved back, It bent the control arm and even the torsion bar. I have also now discovered that both motor mounts broke causing the engine to fly forward and left. There is a hole in one valve cover where it hit the brake booster and the steering shaft is bashed to one side. The crank pulley looks bent and possibly the balancer too. The one inner fender is badly mangled but the firewall is undamaged I think. I have full replacement value insurance based on my appraisal. I can't go wrong. My options are, repair the car if possible, cash out and walk away, cash out and buy back the car and find an affordable shop or make it into a project. I could get a new front clip professionally installed and do the rest my self and have lots of money left over. That's what I would like to do except I would have very little time to do it. It's all a numbers game right now. A very possible but expensive repair. How much money is the only issue.
What did the police report say about the other driver ? were they cited for pulling out into traffic & failing to yield the right of way to vehicles Traveling ON the highway ?
Quote from: model maker on June 01, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
What did the police report say about the other driver ? were they cited for pulling out into traffic & failing to yield the right of way to vehicles Traveling ON the highway ?
Yes, she was charged with failing to yield. I went by the crash scene the other day. I thought I had skidded from one lane to the next but, the skid marks started only in the passing lane. I now recall I was trying to drive around her hoping she would stop and I braked hard in the left lane when I knew the crash was certain. This means she is a bigger idiot than I originally thought.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 01, 2012, 04:37:06 PM
How much money is the only issue.
That is the 64 thousand dollar question. Almost anything is repairable for a price.
By your description, you are now getting past the tip of the iceberg. A lot of secondary damage does not become apparent until the tear down of the car. For example, what is the actual condition of the engine and or transmission? (Answer: Nobody really knows yet. ) When the engine is pulled will there be any damage transmitted to the rest of the body, the torsion bar crossmember and trans tunnel area when everything broke loose? As you are discovering, it is more than just slapping on some new front rails, which in and of itself is a pretty big deal. It is the brake booster, the steering mechanism, the radiator, all the little bolt on stuff. It's chunks of parts that all add up to a big bill. I think you will be surprised how high the estimate will come in to return it to pre-accident condition.
If this were a late model car, it would be sent to salvage. It's hit that hard. All comes back to the cost of putting Humpty back together.
This is why it pays to have the BEST insurance you can have, especially one that will stand behind & with you against an insurance co that wants to go the CHEAP ROUTE with YOUR car. It is going to take a lot to get your charger back to where it was with NO hidden surprises later on. the other driver was at fault and YOU shouldn't have to suffer because of it. Make sure whoever it is that will be working on your charger really knows what to look for. These cheapo ins.cos. think that if it looks ok cosmetically then they have satisfied their end of it. It is all of the things you cannot see that must be addressed and that will take someone who is MOPAR smart. These people need to be made aware of the fact that these parts are rare and hard to find but it was THEIR INSURED CUSTOMER who was at fault, broke the law by choice and you suffered and need to be made "whole " again having a charger that was in show car condition ( how can they argue any differently now ) and needs to be returned to that pre-accident condition. no matter how you look at it, your charger took a big hit and now that has to be disclosed in the future if you had ever planned to sell it and you will take a finacial hit in value. That needs to be addressed somehow, why should you lose future resale value because of their insured irresponsible driver. what has your collector car ins. co. said about this whole mess ?
damn, thats awful... well at least all your body parts are still intact and undamaged. these old cars are one big crumple zone. Beautiful R/T like that so sad... I can imagine replacement is not easy or cheap. that car survived 43yrs until it met that damn that stupid idiot woman. Good luck hope you get every penny of what its worth.
Bert makes some good points.
I mean, insurance companies are more than happy to take their customer's premiums to insure against incidents/accidents that often never happen. They make money from taking on the risks, so when it comes time to pay out on claims, they needn't be tight fisted.
Wow it will be sad not to see that car this summer. I am really glad you made it out ok. Hopefully everything works out for you.
I like the DMCL idea too but I am not sure that I would do it.
Dave
Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on June 02, 2012, 04:30:06 PM
Wow it will be sad not to see that car this summer. I am really glad you made it out ok. Hopefully everything works out for you.
I like the DMCL idea too but I am not sure that I would do it.
Dave
Thanks. I still want to go the DCML route if the car is saved. You have to be the right kind of person to actually do it. Personally, I could never go the GL route. Nothing wrong with a GL, it's just not me.
Imo, there's no doubt that car is totaled. :'(
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on June 03, 2012, 03:38:30 AM
Imo, there's no doubt that car is totaled. :'(
Possibly but, it depends on only one thing now, the repair cost. It's not a matter of whether the car can be saved, it easily can be. The car is heavily insured and as long as the repair cost is well under that amount, it will be repaired like new again. If the repair cost gets too close to the insured amount, it's a write off. That's not to say the car is scrap either. I could still keep it and fix it mostly myself cheaper or, I could let it go and some serious do it your self type will pick it up. Here is a pre crash pic of the rear of the car. It still looks like this from the firewall back, perfectly straight and not a ding to be found and the original floors are just as nice underneath. One way or another, it won't wind up on the scrap pile anytime soon.
I like that movie so much I could see having the cop car. I have a 71 Polara but the movie used 72's.
Hopefully something can be done. Best of luck and keep us updated.
Dave
I wish you well in having your charger brought back to better than new condition, and it really pisses me off that some irresponsible driver caused this. To them and their ins.co, it is "just a car" they are clueless on WHAT this charger is & what it means to have survived kike it has & remained in the factory showroom condition it stayed in all these years & then one day, some dim wit decided they could ignore the law, ignore common sense and deprive you of all you worked hard to have. The fact you have something almost irreplaceable. It would sure be nice to have enough money to own a 69 Charger AND have enough property ( like billionairs do ) to make your OWN road & highway, track to drive your carany way you decide to without fear of cops or a knucklehead driver to interfere with your Charger and your worryfree driving of it. Yeah, it sure would be nice but at least we can dream. :2thumbs:
Quote from: model maker on June 03, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
To them and their ins.co, it is "just a car"
not just a car, but just and OLD car :RantExplode:
i see the attraction of doing it as DMCL, but i think i'd miss the sexy red car it is. i guess you can always change it back if you get tired of it.
wow thats quite a crash, good thing no one was hurt but it kills me when i see a classic like that get damaged :'( I really hope you can fix it back up!
Sorry to see this. Looks like mine did about 4-years ago next week (the 8th). Hard pill to swallow....
Mine was caused by an old duffer in a golf cart. Luckily, I couldn't get out my door either (had to finally go out the passenger side) or I might have done something truly regrettable. Your hit appears to have been much harder than mine, though. Still, getting somebody competent to tear it down carefully (to salvage what you can, the small stuff really matters here) and then straighten the sub-frame is critical. Choose carefully! You will be happy to know that with the power of the internet, parts were surprisingly findable, even the grill stuff. My insurance covered about $8k of the work I've had done so far (my agreed value was fairly low to save on $$$, bad plan!) with the total today at about $24K. My paint would have never matched and the fellow I found to do the work is very competent so I essentially did the whole car (freshened brightwork, new headliner and carpet, new tranny, etc.). The downside for me is my expert was/is getting on in years and his health has been a real challenge. About a year ago, I thought he might expire with my car spread all over his shop (along with about a dozen others, half of them Mopars!). Sorting out that estate would have been absolute futility, so while it's taken far-longer than I would have ever thought, I'm sooo grateful that it didn't go that way. It's down to just weeks now, and maybe even days.
The time has actually allowed me to spread the costs out too, so it hasn't seemed quite so bad. Another advantage of the extended time has been that he allowed me to help where I could (block sanding, bead blasting, parts cleaning and chasing, etc.) and by doing it slowly, we were able to tackle a number of little, niggling things (new front glass, wiper seals, cat's whiskers, missing body plugs, worn hood and door hinges, bad rear window trim mounts, etc.) that I never would have dealt with otherwise. Because the car had been at the Drags in the Midwest for many years, sections of the interior and door panels had been cut out (for weight savings?) and the truck was full of holes for battery tie-downs and fuel-pumps. All of that has been dealt with now, so hopefully, no more fumes, rattles, and leaks! I might actually be able to hear the 8-Track now. All-in-all, I'm fairly certain that it will be a better car than the one I bought 16-years ago.
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 03, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
Sorry to see this. Looks like mine did about 4-years ago next week (the 8th). Hard pill to swallow....
Mine was caused by an old duffer in a golf cart. Luckily, I couldn't get out my door either (had to finally go out the passenger side) or I might have done something truly regrettable. Your hit appears to have been much harder than mine, though. Still, getting somebody competent to tear it down carefully (to salvage what you can, the small stuff really matters here) and then straighten the sub-frame is critical. Choose carefully! You will be happy to know that with the power of the internet, parts were surprisingly findable, even the grill stuff. My insurance covered about $8k of the work I've had done so far (my agreed value was fairly low to save on $$$, bad plan!) with the total today at about $24K. My paint would have never matched and the fellow I found to do the work is very competent so I essentially did the whole car (freshened brightwork, new headliner and carpet, new tranny, etc.). The downside for me is my expert was/is getting on in years and his health has been a real challenge. About a year ago, I thought he might expire with my car spread all over his shop (along with about a dozen others, half of them Mopars!). Sorting out that estate would have been absolute futility, so while it's taken far-longer than I would have ever thought, I'm sooo grateful that it didn't go that way. It's down to just weeks now, and maybe even days.
The time has actually allowed me to spread the costs out too, so it hasn't seemed quite so bad. Another advantage of the extended time has been that he allowed me to help where I could (block sanding, bead blasting, parts cleaning and chasing, etc.) and by doing it slowly, we were able to tackle a number of little, niggling things (new front glass, wiper seals, cat's whiskers, missing body plugs, worn hood and door hinges, bad rear window trim mounts, etc.) that I never would have dealt with otherwise. Because the car had been at the Drags in the Midwest for many years, sections of the interior and door panels had been cut out (for weight savings?) and the truck was full of holes for battery tie-downs and fuel-pumps. All of that has been dealt with now, so hopefully, no more fumes, rattles, and leaks! I might actually be able to hear the 8-Track now. All-in-all, I'm fairly certain that it will be a better car than the one I bought 16-years ago.
Good to see yours is coming along. I know I'm not alone out there. Other classics do get smashed out there. I still want to do the car differently if they end up saving it. I don't want the car back looking the same with no improvements. The only way to bury the bad memories of what happened will be to paint it differently, different wheels etc. This way I can look forward to getting back a car that is fresh and exciting. I don't want to put out every detail on a public forum until the insurance settles but, I will be sure to do so once the time comes. Whether the insurance company and the shop treats me right or wrong, you will all be sure to know about it. I want to make sure both get the attention they deserve and to help others here who are trying to choose insurance or a shop. I'm told it will be a couple more days. Will keep you posted.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 04, 2012, 06:46:47 AM
I don't want the car back looking the same with no improvements. The only way to bury the bad memories of what happened will be to paint it differently, different wheels etc. This way I can look forward to getting back a car that is fresh and exciting.
I see what you're saying and it makes perfect sense. It's obvious that you want a DMCL clone so it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, just go for it. Besides it's just paint, a stripe and some slot mags, no big deal if you get tired of it.
Quote from: Dino on June 04, 2012, 06:49:59 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 04, 2012, 06:46:47 AM
I don't want the car back looking the same with no improvements. The only way to bury the bad memories of what happened will be to paint it differently, different wheels etc. This way I can look forward to getting back a car that is fresh and exciting.
I see what you're saying and it makes perfect sense. It's obvious that you want a DMCL clone so it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, just go for it. Besides it's just paint, a stripe and some slot mags, no big deal if you get tired of it.
Exactly. Hey it's an R/T clone now. In fact, the front and rear R/T badges were already on the car when it was found in Texas as a creme coloured 318 car. The main DMCL car also had R/T badges but was apparently not a factory R/T so, my car fits the plan perfectly.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 04, 2012, 07:06:03 AM
Quote from: Dino on June 04, 2012, 06:49:59 AM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 04, 2012, 06:46:47 AM
I don't want the car back looking the same with no improvements. The only way to bury the bad memories of what happened will be to paint it differently, different wheels etc. This way I can look forward to getting back a car that is fresh and exciting.
I see what you're saying and it makes perfect sense. It's obvious that you want a DMCL clone so it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, just go for it. Besides it's just paint, a stripe and some slot mags, no big deal if you get tired of it.
Exactly. Hey it's an R/T clone now. In fact, the front and rear R/T badges were already on the car when it was found in Texas as a creme coloured 318 car. The main DMCL car also had R/T badges but was apparently not a factory R/T so, my car fits the plan perfectly.
That's pretty funny, it was meant to be! :icon_smile_big:
Mine's an R/T clone as well, down to the extra leaf spring and bigger brakes but although it has the stripe it does not have the R/T badges front and rear. That's how I got it.
This doesn't make it any easier, but the fact that your car was a clone allows for more creative licence. Mine was largely original, so I've been somewhat forced to keep it as delivered, but you're free to do whatever your bankroll and tastes allow. FWIW, I've seen lots of red cars and never one like in the movie. Would your interior color be supportive of that direction (like black?) Also, just exactly what was that color in the movie? It wasn't a factory limelight, was it? What I remember wasn't factory.
It was yellow.
Modelmaker owned one and has pictures that clearly show yellow.
Yes my car has the disc brakes and the extra spring leaf too as well as the 440, 727 trans and Dana 60 rear. The interior is already black (originally white). The paint colour in the movie was 1971 only code GY3 Citron Yella. I'm gonna research the paint very carefully to make sure the colour is correct. I'm not doing anything right now. There's no point making grand plans until the insurance decides. I have no guess whether the car will survive or not.
Either a black or white interior would work here, and while I wasn't sure, I would have guessed something like Citron Yellow to be the color they used for the movie. (Didn't know about it being 71 only.) So, your car really is in the hands of the insurance company's "death panel", eh? Sounds a bit ominous to me.
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 04, 2012, 11:27:35 PM
Either a black or white interior would work here, and while I wasn't sure, I would have guessed something like Citron Yellow to be the color they used for the movie. (Didn't know about it being 71 only.) So, your car really is in the hands of the insurance company's "death panel", eh? Sounds a bit ominous to me.
How could a DMCL car work with white interior? It has to be black.
:iagree:
Well it would also need A/C, sometimes. And it would need 68 tail lights from time to time as well... :icon_smile_big:
You have some artistic liberty here. Personally I don't like the color but I could live with the same stripe and another body color. Like whitee with a black stripe or black with a white stripe or whatever. I just don't like any mopar greens except F8...sometimes..
Quote from: Dino on June 05, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
Well it would also need A/C, sometimes. And it would need 68 tail lights from time to time as well... :icon_smile_big:
You have some artistic liberty here. Personally I don't like the color but I could live with the same stripe and another body color. Like whitee with a black stripe or black with a white stripe or whatever. I just don't like any mopar greens except F8...sometimes..
It was originally an AC car and I can still see the mark where the Airtemp sticker was so, replacing it will be no problem.
Any Updates :scratchchin:
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 11, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
Any Updates :scratchchin:
Nothing yet. Their still working with the shop to round up all the needed parts. The "We're going to sent you a cheque for the towing right away" payment finally arrived yesterday. That's all so far. At least it confirms that I will be looked after eventually.
They do like to drag these things out don't they?
Quote from: Ghoste on June 12, 2012, 08:33:18 AM
They do like to drag these things out don't they?
Yup. If I owed them money, I wonder how many late payment notices I would have had already.
And interest.
I hope it all works out for you :2thumbs:
Have you noticed the "mangled 69 Charger on Craig'slist" post on this forum? It looks like it was hit on the RR quarter, so....parts maybe?
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 12, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
Have you noticed the "mangled 69 Charger on Craig'slist" post on this forum? It looks like it was hit on the RR quarter, so....parts maybe?
Seen that & thought of 404 right away. That's his front clip.
Just read all this today... wow... I hope it all works out for you.
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 12, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
Have you noticed the "mangled 69 Charger on Craig'slist" post on this forum? It looks like it was hit on the RR quarter, so....parts maybe?
Yes, I did see that and thought the same thing. Actually, I do have a complete clip reserved for me. It's not official yet but, it is starting to look like the car will be restored to perfection. :cheers: No write off. I will let you all know.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 13, 2012, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 12, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
Have you noticed the "mangled 69 Charger on Craig'slist" post on this forum? It looks like it was hit on the RR quarter, so....parts maybe?
Yes, I did see that and thought the same thing. Actually, I do have a complete clip reserved for me. It's not official yet but, it is starting to look like the car will be restored to perfection. :cheers: No write off. I will let you all know.
Still DMCL though right :yesnod:
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on June 13, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 13, 2012, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: lloyd3 on June 12, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
Have you noticed the "mangled 69 Charger on Craig'slist" post on this forum? It looks like it was hit on the RR quarter, so....parts maybe?
Yes, I did see that and thought the same thing. Actually, I do have a complete clip reserved for me. It's not official yet but, it is starting to look like the car will be restored to perfection. :cheers: No write off. I will let you all know.
Still DMCL though right :yesnod:
It will almost certainly be a DMCL car. Depends what the shop says.
Only 2 months to Moparfest so you better get cracking :paintingpink:
Quote from: Dodge Don on June 14, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
Only 2 months to Moparfest so you better get cracking :paintingpink:
I should bring it there the way it is now. $20.00 says my car draws the biggest crowd. ;D
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 15, 2012, 04:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dodge Don on June 14, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
Only 2 months to Moparfest so you better get cracking :paintingpink:
I should bring it there the way it is now. $20.00 says my car draws the biggest crowd. ;D
You would win that bet hands down. That would be the "must see" event at the show.
that and a white one i know of. :yesnod:
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 15, 2012, 11:28:20 AM
that and a white one i know of. :yesnod:
Yes, I agree about the white one. Perhaps we could position both cars so it looks like I broadsided it.
they would both be very interesting to see in person. :yesnod: of course id rather see yours tied up in a shop being repaired already.
Any yellow paint ordered yet :popcrn: :popcrn:
Is that car gonna get fixed? I would change colors, but not a DMCL thing myself, but that's just me....I love 'em looking stock...also not a fan of movies....Godd luck!
They're still shuffling paper around and the car just sits. What a long, drawn out process.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on July 09, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
They're still shuffling paper around and the car just sits. What a long, drawn out process.
Insurance companies take there sweet f'n time don't they....When my wife passed away what a chore it was to get them to send me a cheque...talk about paper work :eek2:
good luck man
Any news?
:popcrn:
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on July 09, 2012, 06:04:58 PM
Insurance companies take there sweet f'n time don't they....When my wife passed away what a chore it was to get them to send me a cheque...talk about paper work :eek2:
good luck man
Never knew, sorry 'bout that man. :-\
The waiting has got to suck. Hang in there and I like your plans of the DMCL Charger. That could be your car.
Bryan
It's official. The car is totalled. They wrote it off. :'( Lant/Silver Wheel/ Haggerty Insurance or whatever they call themselves came through and paid me the full value hassle free. The slowdown was caused by the overworked insurance adjusters they used. I'm still sad about it all but, I walked away which is the main thing. I just wanted to let you all know.
I'd be pretty happy as long as the payout figure allows you to get into something in similar condition and value. The crappy thing is the hassles and having to wait to find it yourself.
Do you have salvage rights or do you have to buy it back if you wanted it.
That is a horrible crash! :icon_smile_blackeye:
Glad to hear no one was hurt and that you're able to rebuild! It's always a shame to see great cars go to a graveyard!
The 2nd life of your ride will be great with which ever rebuild you choose! :2thumbs:
Great to hear they paid the full agreed value....did you get to keep the car?
Yes I still have the car. I will be selling it. It can be fixed but is only worth it to someone with the right resources. People I have never heard of have been phoning or visiting me looking to buy it. Two of them have first dibs and then I will offer it here as I have found a lot of talented people are on this forum. Setting the right price will be not be easy.
I guess I'm going to have to go with that insurance company
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 11, 2012, 02:00:13 PM
I guess I'm going to have to go with that insurance company
No worries there. They have a sterling reputation and they deserve my recommendation. There will be another classic car in my future and I will be insuring with them again.
What made you change your mind on the DMCL resto?
I am glad it was settled to your satisfaction. At least you can move on. I think it would be great if you could get it to Moparfest.
I can see how it would be tough to come up with a value.
Dave
Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on August 12, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
What made you change your mind on the DMCL resto?
I am glad it was settled to your satisfaction. At least you can move on. I think it would be great if you could get it to Moparfest.
I can see how it would be tough to come up with a value.
Dave
What changed my mind was that even I'm not sure it can be fixed afffordably unless I did it myself which I don't have the spare time.
I just hope whoever ends up with the car will bring it back to life. I hate to see any 2nd generation charger die, but especially one as nice as that one! Good luck to you though, I couldn't imagine being in your shoes. And I don't even have a charger yet! :'(
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on August 12, 2012, 09:01:22 AM
Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on August 12, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
What made you change your mind on the DMCL resto?
I am glad it was settled to your satisfaction. At least you can move on. I think it would be great if you could get it to Moparfest.
I can see how it would be tough to come up with a value.
Dave
What changed my mind was that even I'm not sure it can be fixed afffordably unless I did it myself which I don't have the spare time.
So you gonna get another Charger and give it the DMCL treatment?
Yeah, thats the burning question now.
Sadly, I will not be getting another Charger. My reasons are very similar to the member with the orange '69 that was much discussed here (sorry I forgot his user name). That was never the plan but, the car being written off changes everything. I am as uncertain about the repair costs as the insurance company was and I have to go with a classic car that costs tens of thousands less which means no Charger. I am going to try to make sure that the car goes to someone who has the resources to fix it as it is too good to part out.
Are you planning to replace it with some other classic car then? Another Mopar?
Quote from: Ghoste on August 13, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Are you planning to replace it with some other classic car then? Another Mopar?
There will be another classic. That is a must for me to survive. I'm just not sure what it will be. It does not have to be a Mopar.
Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on August 13, 2012, 08:15:27 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on August 13, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Are you planning to replace it with some other classic car then? Another Mopar?
There will be another classic. That is a must for me to survive. I'm just not sure what it will be. It does not have to be a Mopar.
My vote goes to a 67 GTO or a 70 Chevelle. Great cars and not mopar pricey.
Plentiful too, (compared to a lot of other musclecars) but don't rule out the CJ Fords, there are some deals around on those too.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on August 05, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on July 09, 2012, 06:04:58 PM
Insurance companies take there sweet f'n time don't they....When my wife passed away what a chore it was to get them to send me a cheque...talk about paper work :eek2:
good luck man
Never knew, sorry 'bout that man. :-\
She is the reason I'm building this Charger as it was our dream to have a muscle car before she had cancer....thx man :angel:
I'm dealing with Lant as we speak for my 68 :2thumbs:
If not a charger.
67 SD big block beaumont or 67-8 SS big block camaro would be the "other" choices for me.
I heard he has bought another classic car....but I won't share details since I'm not sure if it is true....I'll leave that to Dave to announce if true or not.
All I can say is what I heard blew my mind.
Quote from: Dodge Don on August 31, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
I heard he has bought another classic car....but I won't share details since I'm not sure if it is true....I'll leave that to Dave to announce if true or not.
All I can say is what I heard blew my mind.
Donnnn :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Don't do us like that man. lol
I wonder what it is
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 31, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
I wonder what it is
If what I heard was true it is likely the last thing you would expect. Wild.
....he bought a Datsun. :icon_smile_big:
(http://retroscenemag.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2f10%2fLiber-Image1.jpg)
Quote from: Dodge Don on August 31, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 31, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
I wonder what it is
If what I heard was true it is likely the last thing you would expect. Wild.
PLEASE don't say RICE :(
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Fiat 500?
2002 Pontiac trash can convert black :smilielol:
Quote from: Dodge Don on August 31, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 31, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
I wonder what it is
If what I heard was true it is likely the last thing you would expect. Wild.
A 1988 Yugo GV Indy Pace Car. :2thumbs:
A Gremlin or Pacer?
The suspense is too much.
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That would be a change.
Whatever floats your boat.
I wouldn't mind a model A myself. I wonder if he wants it stock or in bucket form.
If he gets another Charger he can pick up all the T and A he wants.
Quote from: Ghoste on September 19, 2012, 10:43:21 AM
If he gets another Charger he can pick up all the T and A he wants.
I like your work