Attention DodgeCharger.com members ! Dfan/ J.Winton filed fraud charges with Converse County Sherriff,Clark Co of NV. Sherriff Dept.,and Riverside Co. Calif. Sherriff Dept. against Chris Houg for taking Dfans 1970 Daytona replica in clear title trade for 09 R/T challenger. This letter is to warn other members--if the moderators permit it to run--about F6daytonas dealings. Chris Houg is a liar & a crook--this is not an opinion -- IT IS A FACT. Because the wheels of justice move soooo slow I decided to warn Charger.com members before they were robbed like I was. Chris makes his living wheeling and dealing in Dodge parts and cars---he is not afraid of law inforcement yet--but he hit the big time now. I'm sure he has had crooked dealings with other members and because the amount was small they probably let it go to save themselves the embarrassment of admitting to being taken by Chris. Until this case has gone through the legal channels--I would like to keep other DODGE owners from being robbed and make it harder for Chris to make his illegal gains profitable! :RantExplode: :RantExplode:
Hmmm F6Daytona seems to pop up in more than one of these threads if memory serves me correctly
I would like to know more about exactly what happened - I know the mods have final say and I hate threads like this one (bashing another member) but it just seems if this man's name keeps getting brought up there might be grounds for it ?
Maybe I just like the drama but I at least like to hear both sides of a story or at least see proof of an argument (court papers, filed claims, etc) --- makes the case seem more legitament. I know you stated the process is slow and i do not expect these documents to be available at this time - however, i feel it is too easy no-a-days to smears some one's name on rumor.
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Hi Rolling Thunder, Chris called me to buy my Daytona--He said he had a R/T challenger to trade--It is not in his name,he said it had the 5.7 hemi--he put the hemi engine cover over a 3.5 v6---he said he owed 5000 dollars through chrysler finance---he owes over 25000 and its through JP MORGON CHASE-- does an of this sound like he accidently didn't understand what he was doing?
To photo all the paperwork would take forever--but if you think I'm just slandering call 1-760-836-3215 and ask for SGT. Baur and ask if there is an on going investigation. Chris conned a fellow member into going with him to deliver the challenger and pick up the Daytona---does this look like I"m kidding?
Let me get this straight, Someone actually traded a Daytona for a new challenger, Gave up clear paperwork on the Daytona without getting clear paperwork on the Challenger? And did anyone actually drive this V6 powered car and think it was as strong as a 5.7 hemi should be? Is this right? Don't get me wrong, It definitely sounds fraudulent but it also sounds like someone didn't do any homework.... None.
Let me get this straight---when someone commits a crime its ok as long as they get away with it? Purposely lying and misleading someone is ok with you? The reason I wrote this is to let other innocent members ---do their homework so that a crooks like Chris Houg won't take their hard erned money from them. This website SHOULD be for those who enjoy the hobby--not for VULCHERS like Chris Houg to go shopping with his FRIENDS.
Just so you know--I did leave with the paperwork,notorizied bill of sale, bogus title and the car in a trailer--the paperwork was found to be fraudulant later. MY WORD howerever was good as gold and so was my paperwork unlike the word of Chris Houg. It is not fun to go through the legal process--I was not going to write this at first because I knew I would be critisized by his friends--but I decided what about all the great mopar fans that are honest on this site ? If the moderators and the people on this site think its ok to act like Chris Houg--what does that say? Got it straight yet ? :icon_smile_question: :icon_smile_question:
what kind of RETARD (sorry for expression but was better than other choices)
A: trades a daytona for a new heap of shit.
B: can in there right mind be deceived by a v8 cover. I mean shit dude, they dont even sound remotely the same.
Conclusion: Deceiving and lieing isnt right but the stupidity of that deal aint any better either. :slap:
I truly believe that no one on this site or any other feels that it is ok to commit fraud...in any form. Just as we went through the angst that another member endured through with his purchase...he was also held responsible for purchasing something he didn't check out first. Everything will come out in the wash. If he is guilty he will be held responsible. Documentation has to be seen before the final deal. We just verified my car was as it was supposed to be. Well it wasn't and it is. Numbers matching, not a 383 as told. In this event I don't feel the guy was trying to rip me off or even misinform me. I think he was misinformed, we got the car from someone we trusted who ALSO told us to verify that it was what the person said it was. Reading the VIN#/fender tag, prior to purchase may have helped, however it could also have been modified...glued on. These Tags will tell you EVERYTHING! Caveat emptor...let the buyer beware has been written since man has been doing business.
:dancinglock: Potential for lock: high.
Well, good luck getting your car/money back. I'm sure you feel pretty stupid about letting your clone go for a V6 Challenger so I won't pile on. Chaulk it up as lesson hard learned.
Oh yeah--lesson learned--but I didn't write this to justify myself or the trade or explain the reason for the trade--or worry about criticizem--it was to inform the honest members--99% of those who go here for advice on their project --I have already figured a way to reslove my problem.
Sweet. Glad it will all work out for u, just please... no more foolish trades of old for new unless ur car is sofar gone it requires thousands upong thousands (20k +) to get working and u cant be bothered with that.
That sucks. I learned my lesson the hard way when I took a 68 Mustang #'s matching GT coupe in trade for my 71 Challenger. It turned out not to be a GT and was born a with a 6 cylinder. :eek2: I'll be lucky if I even get my money back, but that was on me. He was just passing on what he had been told when he bought the car and did not check it out, and neither did I until it was to late.
sorry to hear this man.. we have all not done the most intelligent things in our lives (me definately included in regards to trades or cars bought, i have my doozies of "what the hell was i thinking?" car trades). I hope everything works out for you and the CON MAN GETS IT IN THE ASH IN PRISON FOR ALL I CARE! I hope justice overcomes in this one, this guy is a dirtbag if your allegations are true.
Some of you are missing the point. Whether dfan deemed the trade between the Daytona and the Challenger R/T fair is completely irrelevant, it is just about the fact that he never got what he thought he traded for and that is fraudulent, if the papers that were used in the exchange have really been altered than that really closes it. All the other side things such as how well the homework was done, or how he could be fooled by a V6 sound are not to the point. He is so nice to give us heads up on a guy that is an alleged scammer that is active on this site we should be happy and if this all is just a misunderstanding (hard to believe, but nothing is impossible) it is time for F6Daytona to step up to the plate and defend himself. Otherwise we will probably hear the outcome of the legal process and in the meantime we can watch out while dealing with F6Daytona.
dfan I wish you all the luck with the legal process and I hope that the deal can either be reversed or that you are compensated in any way.
Arthur
wow sorry for you horrible situation, thanks for the heads up about this guy. I'm glad you came forward with the information even if it's badly embarrassing for you. I'm sorry others are attacking you for this, instead of attacking this scum bag.
Looks like he was just on here 2 days ago. Maybe he'll be back soon to clear things up? :icon_smile_big: Maybe his paper work was lost at the post office and the post office didnt call him to tell him to come pick it up?.. :scratchchin:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7964
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:08:51 AM
Looks like he was just on here 2 days ago. Maybe he'll be back soon to clear things up? :icon_smile_big: Maybe his paper work was lost at the post office and the post office didnt call him to tell him to come pick it up?.. :scratchchin:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7964
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Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:08:51 AM
Looks like he was just on here 2 days ago. Maybe he'll be back soon to clear things up? :icon_smile_big: Maybe his paper work was lost at the post office and the post office didnt call him to tell him to come pick it up?.. :scratchchin:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7964
dude your killin me i just spit pop all over me LOL
Quote from: moparstuart on July 27, 2009, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2009, 10:08:51 AM
Looks like he was just on here 2 days ago. Maybe he'll be back soon to clear things up? :icon_smile_big: Maybe his paper work was lost at the post office and the post office didnt call him to tell him to come pick it up?.. :scratchchin:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7964
dude your killin me i just spit pop all over me LOL
No $hit...that's bull. This sure won't be cleared up on line over the internet. I would go to him myself and get my F-ing car back right now! Well Smith and Wesson would go with me. What a bastard..sorry for all the language but this kind of crap chaps my ass. Good luck sorting through this mess.
Looks like Chris is at it again. If I remember correctly, he f*cked over another member on a set of Kelsey Hayes Recall wheels.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,57295.msg638798.html#msg638798
This "F6Daytona" guy was trying to buy some parts I had for sale.
I'm not going to go into any detail here,
but let's just say something didn't feel right.
I put an end to the deal.
I'm VERY glad I did.
http://www.dre.ca.gov/pdf_docs/rebwin05.pdf
Check out this under "REVOKED LICENSES"........ it's Christopher Philip Houg.....
Quote from: 72chargerSE on July 27, 2009, 05:51:32 PM
http://www.dre.ca.gov/pdf_docs/rebwin05.pdf
Check out this under "REVOKED LICENSES"........ it's Christopher Philip Houg.....
Revoked because of codes 490 & 10177(b). Code 490 is "Substantially related criminal conviction" and 10177(b) is "Conviction of crime".
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sorry that you got ripped off. Hope you get your car/money back
I'm just getting off work--I would like to personally THANK the MODERATORS for not locking this out--it should show all members that they care--I won't use name calling --only facts I can back up. Second I would like to thank most of you for your support and understanding--It was harder than you think to discuss what happened--I was way too trusting and without discussing all the facts ( of which I have proof)--I know I look like an IDIOT.Where I come from a man is as good as his word and it's a crime to sell a vehicle that doesn't belong to you! The value or the reason is not the issue. So thanks everyone and I hope this help YOU GUYS and Thanks DodgeCharger.com moderators.Dfan :2thumbs:
I think its worth noting also though that its not a XX29 Daytona that you were trading. I was reading some of the replies and it seemed that some people were under the impression it was a Daytona that you traded. Very nice car you have there Dfan, I know I have talked to you through PM's about it a few times. Sorry to hear about the bad deal going down. I had been contacted a few times by the other party from this deal about some parts for aero cars. After a few replies and communications though I stopped hearing from him so just let the deals go by the way side. I'm glad now too because I wouldn't want close friends to get stepped on by someone like that.
Quote from: dfan on July 27, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
I'm just getting off work--I would like to personally THANK the MODERATORS for not locking this out--it should show all members that they care--I won't use name calling --only facts I can back up. Second I would like to thank most of you for your support and understanding--It was harder than you think to discuss what happened--I was way too trusting and without discussing all the facts ( of which I have proof)--I know I look like an IDIOT.Where I come from a man is as good as his word and it's a crime to sell a vehicle that doesn't belong to you! The value or the reason is not the issue. So thanks everyone and I hope this help YOU GUYS and Thanks DodgeCharger.com moderators.Dfan :2thumbs:
Dfan,
I admire your grace.... I too am all trusting..... remember, he will meet his maker one day!!!!!
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on July 27, 2009, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: 72chargerSE on July 27, 2009, 05:51:32 PM
http://www.dre.ca.gov/pdf_docs/rebwin05.pdf
Check out this under "REVOKED LICENSES"........ it's Christopher Philip Houg.....
Revoked because of codes 490 & 10177(b). Code 490 is "Substantially related criminal conviction" and 10177(b) is "Conviction of crime".
Cody,
Good work little buddy!!!!
Mike
dfan, it's easy to be a Monday morning football coach, they never make mistakes. For those who say in effect "you should have known better" or whatever after the fact advise they have to offer, I'm sure they have never been taken (cheated) this way. Personally, I admire your humility, and the fact that you are willing to state the facts, regardless of how it might reflect on you. My advise would be to hang in there, fight it tooth and nail, allow the legal process (as slow as it may be) to run its course. You will come out on top. I've been self employed for twenty five plus years. I've seen all kinds of trash come and go. Trust me, it catches them. As a man sows, so shall he reap. Justice comes in all forms. Keep your head up. You dealt honestly, the other guy is the crook. That's my :Twocents:
So where does this guy live? Can you go to his house and bring his Challenger back? :popcrn:
Hard part is you can't touch it yet. However with the lawsuit he shouldn't be able to sell it either. Best thing you did was hit him with a lawsuit. Dealt with a lot of folks that think how could I be that stupid...it's naive...your honest and you expect others to be honest. Most are honest then you have those that take advantage of your good nature. He got was he wanted. Those are some severe charges for a Realtor.
From the sounds of it, this guy will just swap the VIN or paperwork when he tries to offload it.
Dont be too suprised if its long gone by the time the courts catch up to him. Probably already had a buyer in the wings. and traded it on before you got the law involved.
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 28, 2009, 08:19:39 AM
So where does this guy live? Can you go to his house and bring his Challenger back? :popcrn:
Looks like his home address is listed in the link of "license revoked..."
Hopefully the car isn;t parted out before it's all settled - pretty hard to prove ownership of individual parts; especially if they're gone.
I read all his posts here,.. pretty sketchy stuff,.. what a douce... :rotz:
Damn, thats messed up. Hope you get her back home safe.Keep us posted and good luck!
I can't believe someone would have the audacity to try something like this face to face. Show up with bogus paperwork and a fake car.
This boy will literally have hell to pay on judgement day when he stands in front of his maker.
Sad part in today's society if you showed up at his door armed you'd probably be the one doing time.
Hello Charger members--Just getting off work again--Wow you guys have been busy! Mack,thanks for understanding--you and Chargergirl are right,I have to let the legal process run its course-but man its moving slow--Calif.DMV wanted copies, 3 states sheriff dept. wanted copies, the lawyer--its alot of work. I also agree with 451-74 charger I think he had a buyer for the car or wanted the new 426 hemi out of it----BUT maybe he's trying to pawn it off as a real daytona,thats why hes looking at broadcast sheets and new front fenders????? danmc77, Brock, and bmoparmofo--I agree.
Quote from: dfan on July 28, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Hello Charger members--Just getting off work again--Wow you guys have been busy! Mack,thanks for understanding--you and Chargergirl are right,I have to let the legal process run its course-but man its moving slow--Calif.DMV wanted copies, 3 states sheriff dept. wanted copies, the lawyer--its alot of work. I also agree with 451-74 charger I think he had a buyer for the car or wanted the new 426 hemi out of it----BUT maybe he's trying to pawn it off as a real daytona,thats why hes looking at broadcast sheets and new front fenders????? danmc77, Brock, and bmoparmofo--I agree.
If he has the ability to get fake paperwork, I'd think his plan was to get a fraudulent XX29 Vin and fender tag, try to pawn it off as a the real deal to a unsuspecting rich guy for a lower than normal hemi daytona price. Just hoping to find a guy with deep pockets that wouldn't know any better to go farther than looking at the fake vin tag and fender tag. Shady guy like this i'm sure he can find someone to make a vin and fender tag.
I agree 4EVER--but he'll have a tougher time now--there are some pretty smart members :cheers: :cheers:
Dang,
I would have seriously considered trading my RT for a Daytona clone with a 426 Hemi!
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/DSCN4019.jpg)
here is some honest disclosure-
the stripes are not factory, put on by me and my son
and its a stock 5.7L car,
you don't get a 13.21 quarter from a V6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CeDd75UJPs
you are not the only guy to be too trusting,
guys like this dirt bag that hosed you make a living out of convincing real good guys that they are one to.
Man thats nice :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Dfans Challenger at home
Funny...A bunch of us tried warning people here about Chris Houg and some mod removed the posts...or locked the threads. I even PM'ed said mod about it but got no responce. I was guided to the locked thread about the Hayes wheels by a member here while I was having issues with Mr Houg. Had that thread been left open or posts about Mr Houg left in place...maybe you and me would of been saved alot of trouble.
Sorry for your loss and hope it works out better for you then it did for me.
Thanks captnsim--maybe the moderators were being carefull and not wanting to slander or turn the site into a slam fest until they had enough proof or complaints--this time they must be convinced something is going on and the members should be warned . It looks like they are going to listen to your voices now----I'm glad.Thanks again Captnsim
You must have his address. Go to his place with some friends, some heat, and a trailer and take your car back. What's he going to do, call the cops? I doubt it.
If he does flip the car again either trading/selling as is or retagging it as a real daytona and DFAN is legally determined by the court to still be the owner of the car they will repsosses it no matter who owns it and return it to DFAN. The Challenger back to the bank. What that means is who ever last pays for that car and has it in their possesion loses. It would be considered stolen property at that point. Returnable to the rightful owner.
I wouldn't be suprised if this car ends up as a hot potato while the slow wheels of justice turn.
DFAN really sorry this happened to you. It sucks that people like that exsist in our hobby.
Quote from: lilwendal on July 29, 2009, 06:29:28 AM
If he does flip the car again either trading/selling as is or retagging it as a real daytona and DFAN is legally determined by the court to still be the owner of the car they will repsosses it no matter who owns it and return it to DFAN. The Challenger back to the bank. What that means is who ever last pays for that car and has it in their possesion loses. It would be considered stolen property at that point. Returnable to the rightful owner.
I wouldn't be suprised if this car ends up as a hot potato while the slow wheels of justice turn.
DFAN really sorry this happened to you. It sucks that people like that exsist in our hobby.
Well, when/if DFAN gets his conviction then the person that bought the car has charges that he/she will be able to press. Anothers fraud conviction will make the person repay/jail time/record of the transaction in public record. Hmmm, check the public records to see if the person has sold the car. Or had other convictions. Clerk of the court of whatever county you think it will show up in. You can pull the persons name and just put in ALL under record search. I do this all the time...think I'll go do that now...see what I can find.
Hey lilwendal--you might be right--in legal terms--but at this point my goal is to make sure Chris Houg does TIME in PRISON. The reason I'm pursueing this soo hard is to let him and his buddies know that the consequences of taking property from those who work HARD for it--- WILL NOT BE TOLERATED period. Have you noticed all the beautiful cars the members on this site have---I doubt any of them got them for free--look at the amount of time put into these cars--they sacrificed their time and money for years of their life to be proud. I want to make sure that anyone who thinks they can take that away will be treated harshly so no one else will try it again.
Quote from: dfan on July 29, 2009, 07:24:38 AM
Hey lilwendal--you might be right--in legal terms--but at this point my goal is to make sure Chris Houg does TIME in PRISON. The reason I'm pursueing this soo hard is to let him and his buddies know that the consequences of taking property from those who work HARD for it--- WILL NOT BE TOLERATED period. Have you noticed all the beautiful cars the members on this site have---I doubt any of them got them for free--look at the amount of time put into these cars--they sacrificed their time and money for years of their life to be proud. I want to make sure that anyone who thinks they can take that away will be treated harshly so no one else will try it again.
I hear you. Make sure you follow through 100%. To place a Hemi cover over a V6 ....Shameless :'(
lilwendal--This is a photo of the V6 challenger Chris tried to trade--according to the Calif. DMV--its not in his name.
You wanted to trade cars and meet me in Las Vegas NV you test drove the car and drove off with the car to buy "BELT BUCKELS". I thought that you were crazy, but you wanted to trade so we did. Wheres the harm there? Now you have traders remorse and this is my fault? How and where is the scam? I will have my attorney look at all the false accusations and slanderous remakes that you have made on the site. Again, you wanted to trade and again how is this my fault?
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I have just read this thread, and for the record, i live in Norway, so rules might be a little different there, but since you (F6Daytona) ask how it could be your fault, maybe we can ask you:
1. Did you tell to dfan that it had a 5,7 Hemi?
2. Why did you put a Hemi cover over the engine?
3. Is it correct that you owed 25 k on the car, and told you owed just 5?
4. Is the collatheral now moved from the Challys title, to clear it, or is it still there?
5. Was the paperwork you showed dfan in Las Vegas on the car correct?
There is no doubt that dfan should have done more homework, and maybe brought a knowledgable guy to check out the challenger, and this could have been avoided, but give us an honest answer on the questions above, then we can discuss.
For the record..... if dfan´s story is correct................here in Norway, you would have got some "personal attention" !
Well Chris you showed up on the site Great--Lets show up in court--there are alot of professionals looking for you and they would love to talk to YOU.You can explain to them where my car is at--Why the deal took place May 10 2009 and the clear title car is still in someone elses name and still has a lein on it and they are still making payments on it as of Yesterday when we updated our legal investigation ! Heres the phone number of the investigator--Mr.Scott 307-351-0859--he would love to talk to you.Buyers remorse? Belt buckels? WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON :shruggy: :shruggy: As far as Attornies --you already have my attornies number from the certified letter YOU signed for 2 months ago---oh yeah somebody's going to have REMORSE alright---YOU. As far as trying the whole case on this site --we are not going to do that--The people you need to talk to are waiting for a call and you can tell them your heartbreaking innocent story --I'm done talking to you--my lawyer is not--call him,he offered you away out before the law enforcement was envolved. Hows your scamming going now? JEFF
Justice: :patrol: :slap: F6daytona: :brickwall: :dancinglock: Our Sentiments: :moon:
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DFAN..... DMV will have the name of the owner of that car from the VIN. Do you know who does actually owns that Chally and have you tried to contact them to find out their relationship with the car?
Credibility is going to play a big part in this. You need to ask yourself "F6Daytona" how well do you think you will do in court against dfan with your record of criminal activity ? If all I've read is true, you "F6Daytona" have a problem sir. If all is true, I have a feeling that we won't hear from you again in this thread. :scratchchin: But then again, I was shocked at how stupid BK Auto was so maybe you will shock me as well. ;) It's real easy to fix this. All you need to do is show some proof. Prove dfan wrong and sue him for slander. ;) :popcrn: Chuck.....
Quote from: F6Daytona on July 30, 2009, 12:44:32 AM
You wanted to trade cars and meet me in Las Vegas NV you test drove the car and drove off with the car to buy "BELT BUCKELS". I thought that you were crazy, but you wanted to trade so we did. Wheres the harm there? Now you have traders remorse and this is my fault? How and where is the scam? I will have my attorney look at all the false accusations and slanderous remakes that you have made on the site. Again, you wanted to trade and again how is this my fault?
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Wow. If all of this is true, F6Daytona should be shot in the face. Then he can go to prison. DISGUSTING.
Quote from: terrible one on July 30, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
Wow. If all of this is true, F6Daytona should be shot in the face. Then he can go to prison. DISGUSTING.
no dont disfigure him they love pretty boys in prison :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
So is the #06 Daytona bring the Daytona to the trade, or taking the Daytona away? How did he get tied up in this?
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59800.0;attach=106643;image)
Your first 2 pics of the engine bays, they are 2 different cars correct?
Quote from: Bob on July 30, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
Your first 2 pics of the engine bays, they are 2 different cars correct?
if it's not 2 different cars then there was a lot more than just an engine cover changed :Twocents:
Quote from: Bob on July 30, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
Your first 2 pics of the engine bays, they are 2 different cars correct?
Upon further examination, this statement is correct, these pictures are of two different cars. MANY things are different including the winshield wiper mounting/cowl covering. Air cleaner intake tubing, yellow cap on washer reservoir, what else? :scratchchin:
I kinda' feel like a person who only watches fox news...were only gettin' part of the story. I gotta tell ya, until this thing is resolved, I wouldn't purchase anything from either of these gentleman. (If ever? :shruggy:) :Twocents:
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:cheers:
one picture was taken from the driverside of the car , one was taken from the passengerside . They sure look like the same car to me . The engine cover is just proped up over to the driverside in the second picture . :shruggy:
Quote from: moparstuart on July 30, 2009, 02:34:04 PM
one picture was taken from the driverside of the car , one was taken from the passengerside . They sure look like the same car to me . The engine cover is just proped up over to the driverside in the second picture . :shruggy:
okay, now that you say it, i see that....i guess the oil cap is glued to the cover maybe? very shady.....
Quote from: lisiecki1 on July 30, 2009, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 30, 2009, 02:34:04 PM
one picture was taken from the driverside of the car , one was taken from the passengerside . They sure look like the same car to me . The engine cover is just proped up over to the driverside in the second picture . :shruggy:
okay, now that you say it, i see that....i guess the oil cap is glued to the cover maybe? very shady.....
yes its very dark so could really go either way ? :shruggy: :shruggy:
It looks like the same car to me. What does the guy who's still making payments on the car think about all this? Is the car stolen? This is one weird deal. I know you posted a picture of the car he "tried to trade" does that mean you do not have it anymore? :shruggy:
What a mess this is. :rotz:
Quote from: Go Hogs Go on July 30, 2009, 03:02:30 PM
It looks like the same car to me. What does the guy who's still making payments on the car think about all this? Is the car stolen? This is one weird deal. I know you posted a picture of the car he "tried to trade" does that mean you do not have it anymore? :shruggy:
It's the same car, just in one shot the yellow cap is afew hairs from being in the one photo is all. I look at the locations of where both photos was taken at. If the guy would have stand back afew more hairs the yellow cap would have been in the photo also. It looks to me like the oil cap is molded to the cover because when the cover is propped up on the one side, you can see the indention of where the cap is located at on the top side.
i wasnt going to chime in on this but i just get more and more confused reading this . what i dont understand is if there was $5k or $25K left to pay on the CHALLENGER how did you transfer the title that the bank is holding ? also why would sign over your title for your DAYTONA before the lien on the CHALLENGER was satisified ? :rotz: ::) :o
Quote from: rav440 on July 30, 2009, 03:09:53 PM
i wasnt going to chime in on this but i just get more and more confused reading this . what i dont understand is if there was $5k or $25K left to pay on the CHALLENGER how did you transfer the title that the bank is holding ? also why would sign over your title for your DAYTONA before the lien on the CHALLENGER was satisified ? :rotz: ::) :o
He was given forged and false paperwork is how I understood it .
Quote from: dfan on July 30, 2009, 04:44:06 AM
the deal took place May 10 2009 and the clear title car is still in someone elses name and still has a lein on it and they are still making payments on it as of Yesterday when we updated our legal investigation
I wonder if these weenie yanks are in cahoots? If not why in the hell would the owner of the car still be making the payments?
He probably traded something to the owner of the challenger in exchange for the challenger and the agreement that the challenger owner keeps making the payments. :shruggy:
What? :leaving: More like watching cnn or msnbc or nbc or abc or cbs or pbs
:o wow this is better than those there soap opara's. WOW best of luck and glad you have a lawyer working on it.... I am confused already who owns what tradded to who for what and what was supposed to be tradded... reminds me of "whos on first?"
I'll make it simple. :icon_smile_big: F6Daytona probably made a deal with the first owner of the challenger. In that deal, he got the challenger with an agreement that the first owner keeps making the payments. He gets a new title so he "F6Daytona" can turn around and trade the challenger to dfan for the Daytona clone. Now, the Daytona clone is probably gone or not in his "F6Daytona's" name. This is all just a guess. :shruggy: :icon_smile_big:
In the end the lawyers are going to love this case. More money will spent than both cars combined are worth. This probably would have been better handled the old fashioned way. One person will probably go to jail and the other will be left holding an empty bag of cash and no car to boot. The lawyers will have all the loot, the Daytona will be lost forever, and , and the bank is going to take their Challenger back. I'm no legal wiz but in reality and through lifes expiriences watching these cases play out, that is what I predict will happen here. Sad, very sad indeed.
dfan better find out if he is the receipient of stolen goods. You continue to make the payment on the car until the insurance pays off the rest of the car if it is stolen. Could have been a way of getting out of the rest of the payments. Could be the owner would like to know where HIS/HER car is. Correct about the attorney's though...they will make out. The cops will work on this non-death related crime as they can. Who knows could be a girlfriends car that should be coming back soon. Real soon...any time now!
Quote from: skip68 on July 30, 2009, 03:58:32 PM
I'll make it simple. :icon_smile_big: F6Daytona probably made a deal with the first owner of the challenger. In that deal, he got the challenger with an agreement that the first owner keeps making the payments. He gets a new title so he "F6Daytona" can turn around and trade the challenger to dfan for the Daytona clone. Now, the Daytona clone is probably gone or not in his "F6Daytona's" name. This is all just a guess. :shruggy: :icon_smile_big:
I know just was just trying to make light of a guy who traded a car that was not his, that money was apprently owed on, false presented as a HEMI which it was apparently not, to get a daytona (which was of course a clone)......
Best of luck with all this
Tom
lilwendal, I did contact the DMV & their freud division who is also looking into the matter--The title holder is a FEMALE (sister? wife? girlfriend?)but they would not give me the last name--just the first.They might of givin it to the investagators--but not me. They did tell me that the address of the title holder is the same as Chris's. Aero426--the 06 car delivered & picked up w/Chris He is not of intrest at this time--I did contact him later as I found out what Chris was doing--he was helpful and personally I liked him--I KNOW alot of members know him so I wont elaborate.
I don't think too many on this site are very fond of him. He only has a hand full of posts on here.
Bob,lisieck,& bigred69--the photos are of the same car just at different angles----Chargergirl,the sheriff here did a vin check 0n 5-15-09 and recently--it was/is not stollen--which is good for them since the case is under investagation--can you say insurance freud ?
Please understand people--I can not answer all your questions because this freud is under investigation--the reason I have answered the ones so far is for credibility--I have been total honest,everything I have said I can back up.The phone numbers I gave out were just a FEW of the law enforcement & agencies looking into the matter and they are not personal numbers it is their job and they are trying to help. I have also had help from members on this site who I am trying to help---their discussions and help is NOT AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION PERIOD.Chris commited a crime and I want HIM to pay for it--for a long time!!! I can not discuss everything but remember the investigators and I have had 3 months to look into this--the information and the order in which we got it did not happen in one day. I do not know if I'll get my car back or in peices or the title--but there are 2 things that would make me very happy --1--Chris would get 10 years in prison without parole or 2--Come to my front door-yell in a threatening manner--and step in--lawsuit OVER :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
I dont think 10 years is right especialy if you get your car back. But to teach him a lesson they should make him buy you a full alloy hemi 528/540 and drop that in the daytona and cover all labour charge to get it done/tuned in and to pay for the new exhausts and gearbox it would need to run.
That would teach him not to scam and I know I would be :icon_smile_big:
Only if you could get that option! :rotz:
G-man--that sounds like a good idea--but I don't think Chris has the money or credit--thats probably why the Chally's in a girls name. Also he had a chance and 30 days to resolve this for a very low amount with the clear title that he couldn't pay off---he may act like a high roller--but he can't back it up.
She is now an accessory. But at least you know the car is registered and it shouldn't be able to be parted out with it registered and part of an investigation. I wouldn't want to pay on a car that I didn't have any more so I don't get this way of thinking unless they intended to say it was stolen before you inconveniently reported the whole deal...heh. I want to know how this all comes out and don't want any one involved to undo their own case. It is my belief that as they untangle this mess other things will come to light.
I didn't check on his past history but if he has a string of crime he very well could get 10 years.
I see you are reading this right now F6Daytona. Do you have anything to say ? :popcrn:
Quote from: dfan on July 30, 2009, 10:33:54 PM
Bob,lisieck,& bigred69--the photos are of the same car just at different angles----Chargergirl,the sheriff here did a vin check 0n 5-15-09 and recently--it was/is not stollen--which is good for them since the case is under investagation--can you say insurance freud ?
that engine cover is off a chrysler 300 . It has the chrysler emblem
Quote from: skip68 on July 31, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
I see you are reading this right now F6Daytona. Do you have anything to say ? :popcrn:
:shruggy: :smilielol: I guess not. :rofl:
Engine cover is useless part # 5501.
Plastic... it make your engine look good. :P
Quote from: F6Daytona on July 30, 2009, 12:44:32 AM
You wanted to trade cars and meet me in Las Vegas NV you test drove the car and drove off with the car to buy "BELT BUCKELS". I thought that you were crazy, but you wanted to trade so we did. Wheres the harm there? Now you have traders remorse and this is my fault? How and where is the scam? I will have my attorney look at all the false accusations and slanderous remakes that you have made on the site. Again, you wanted to trade and again how is this my fault?
This post is pretty funny, but not only because of the content. If someone had posted a thread like this about me & had lawyers, investigators, law enforcement agencies, & a lawsuit filed, I sure as hell wouldn't be worried about what was posted on a message board right now & take the time to post back. :smilielol:
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 31, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: F6Daytona on July 30, 2009, 12:44:32 AM
You wanted to trade cars and meet me in Las Vegas NV you test drove the car and drove off with the car to buy "BELT BUCKELS". I thought that you were crazy, but you wanted to trade so we did. Wheres the harm there? Now you have traders remorse and this is my fault? How and where is the scam? I will have my attorney look at all the false accusations and slanderous remakes that you have made on the site. Again, you wanted to trade and again how is this my fault?
This post is pretty funny, but not only because of the content. If someone had posted a thread like this about me & had lawyers, investigators, law enforcement agencies, & a lawsuit filed, I sure as hell wouldn't be worried about what was posted on a message board right now & take the time to post back. :smilielol:
Yes and he didnt even try to address the important stuff , like he misrepresented it as a hemi car. Or that he didnt even really own the car ( not payed off or lein free) he was trading . He also made up false paper work to make it look like the car was free and clear to trade . :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
I see you're reading again right now F6Daytona. Is there anything you can tell us ? ;)
Wow.
Well Dfan, I hope things work in your favor when this is all said & done...what a horrible experience! I hope F6Daytona gets many years behind bars too, to reflect on all the things he's done wrong in life. Maybe someone on the inside (prison) could be paid to give a daily "reminder" as to why you don't screw over your fellow man. :D
Quote from: Charger_Fan on July 31, 2009, 03:25:57 PM
Wow.
Well Dfan, I hope things work in your favor when this is all said & done...what a horrible experience! I hope F6Daytona gets many years behind bars too, to reflect on all the things he's done wrong in life. Maybe someone on the inside (prison) could be paid to give a daily "reminder" as to why you don't screw over your fellow man. :D
pun intended.. ? :icon_smile_big: :o
Quote from: PocketThunder on July 31, 2009, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: Charger_Fan on July 31, 2009, 03:25:57 PM
Wow.
Well Dfan, I hope things work in your favor when this is all said & done...what a horrible experience! I hope F6Daytona gets many years behind bars too, to reflect on all the things he's done wrong in life. Maybe someone on the inside (prison) could be paid to give a daily "reminder" as to why you don't screw over your fellow man. :D
pun intended.. ? :icon_smile_big: :o
Absolutely. ;)
HOW in the world did he think he would actually get away with this? What a tool.
Sorry to here about your situation, I bet you will be a bit more careful with future transactions.
Quote from: Banana Wama on July 31, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
HOW in the world did he think he would actually get away with this? What a tool.
For the same reason that the prisons are full of dumb criminals, they're easy to catch. :lol:
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 31, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Banana Wama on July 31, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
HOW in the world did he think he would actually get away with this? What a tool.
For the same reason that the prisons are full of dumb criminals, they're easy to catch. :lol:
So far he has. I wonder what the statis is on the Daytona?
Quote from: The70RT on July 31, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 31, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Banana Wama on July 31, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
HOW in the world did he think he would actually get away with this? What a tool.
For the same reason that the prisons are full of dumb criminals, they're easy to catch. :lol:
So far he has. I wonder what the statis is on the Daytona?
After seeing this thread....he's probally out in the garage parting it out :-\
Is there a way to reposess the car?? The way i see it, there are 2 options.
1: Bring the cops, deliver the Chally, and reposess the Daytona.
2: Bring a few badass buddies, a loaded gun, and do the same thing.
I was recently in a shitty spot. I sold a 100K boat, and buyer failed to pay. I had known the guy for 20 years, and gave him the boat. He was supposed to pay me 2 weeks later :eek2: (I know.............dumbass me!!!! :nana:)
We ended up hotwiring and stealing the boat back..............with the cops blessing :D
I don't see why it has taken this long for anything major to happen. :shruggy: Have the authorities even talked to him and ask for the car back
So F6, is the Daytona for sale? :fireangry:
Dfan, have you taken the vin to a dodge dealer and had then look up the info to get the original selling dealer? If a claim has been made through chrysler warranty it might have her real name. If she bought an extended warranty it would also show the name.you could also get info from the original dealership and contact her that way. I work in service. Hell just Instant message me the vin and I'll get you everything I can monday!
Landon--I personal messaged the info to you--Thanks for offering the help--the investigation is costing alot and taking time because they get all their ducks in a row so there are no supprises in court. I appreciate ALL the help & support I've been getting from the members--I've lost alot of money in the deal and it's costing alot to pursue the criminal charges---I'm TIRED--Dfan
Hmmmm, the guy was on here a few pages ago defending his case, but he has not been back answering any of the questions..... :popcrn: :popcrn:
Out of answers????
Hey DFan - been a while since i posted in here... I see your dilemma and hope you did not take my original post in an offensive way - was not the intent - I was merely trying to stay as neutral as possible.
Well... Christopher Houg has a lot of explaining to do... and he seems to be a little too p*ssy to answer them. With the evidence of his criminal past evident his reputation and credit...
Check your PMs! I sent you something
Thanks Thunder :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
:popcrn:
All I have to say is.....
Wish I had of known you wanted to swap that big wing I would have swapped you a bigtank.What do you think of or Australian hemi's.
cheers
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That is wrong on many levels I would be hunting me somebody
:shruggy:
:popcrn:
Quote from: l8rg8r on August 08, 2009, 11:59:32 AM
That is wrong on many levels I would be hunting me somebody
:2guns: ................ :patrol: ......... :popcrn:
Get your car back yet? If not, don't waste another minute waiting for the cops or whoever, grow a set and go get it back now.
Quote from: charge-it on August 16, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
Get your car back yet? If not, don't waste another minute waiting for the cops or whoever, grow a set and go get it back now.
:yesnod:
i see that guy at spring fling and fall fling in van nuys all the time if i see him ill give him one of these :slap:
That situation sucks... Too late now but... I would have applied for a lost title, retrieved the datona, and left the Challenger in his front yard. Guy must have stolen the title out of my house, along with the car (from the garage), and forged my signature. The title in my possesion shows the most recent ownership. Would have been hard to back up any legitimate trade.
Friend of mine used this logic when someone wouldn't pay him for a vehicle. He got the reissued title went to retrieve the car, and the guy called the cops. The cop allowed the most recent car owner(Friend) to leave with the car. Hard to argue a legal document like a title. :Twocents:
Unless it's the stand-up General Lee. :D
Just saw this post. I have also been scammed in the past and it sucks. I hope you get your car back and justice is served in some manner if you know what I mean. As I always say "Revenge is a meal best served cold". :yesnod: :flame:
Good luck,
Algo huele a mierda.
I do hate to see deals like this happen. I've been taken myself, and it's aweful in all respects. I feel for you, Dfan.
So what is the latest news on this? Who has what cars at this point? Any arrest made yet, or pending soon?
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
I was just gonna leave it at that, but I can't sit on my hands...
SOMETHING JUST AIN'T ADDING UP!
1. Someone offers to trade a Challenger R/T that they owe five grand on for your daytona (clone or not..its still worth more than a used '09 challenger...which is not even the top-of-the-line model... that someone owes five grand on).
2. They bring this Challenger to you, which you test drive.
3. you open the hood, and on the engine sits an engine cover from a Chrysler 300 (which should have been rattling like a motherfucker if it was just sitting on top of it).
4. you manage to trade for a car that does not even belong to the guy trading it to you and without verifying the outstanding balance on the loan.
Something tells me that there is a hell of a lot more to this story than both parties are letting on.
I can't speak for Dfan
but sometimes money is not always the last consideration. I have a low 11 sec n/a smallblock drag car that i have over 9k in the drivetrain alone. Over 15k invested in all. In all it cost me around 25k with purchase price. I'd easily take 5k worth of AMD metal that i need and $2000 cash to buy interior parts with.
I'd be getting 7k for something that cost me 25k. Sure its not a daytona clone, but maybe Dfan had a real hankering for a rag top challenger :shruggy:
Hey Dodge Fans, Thanks for the support--although I cannot discuss the case any further--some are missing the point--It's not that I'm not extremely pissed off--or that I DON'T have a plan--but right NOW--I'm the only one that has NOT committed a CRIME --I am not going to complicate law enforcements pursuit of Chris Houg at this time-- :rotz: :rotz: :rotz:--This crook and his friends need jail time :2thumbs:
Quote from: Orange_Crush on September 01, 2009, 02:35:05 PM
I was just gonna leave it at that, but I can't sit on my hands...
SOMETHING JUST AIN'T ADDING UP!
1. Someone offers to trade a Challenger R/T that they owe five grand on for your daytona (clone or not..its still worth more than a used '09 challenger...which is not even the top-of-the-line model... that someone owes five grand on).
But your forgetting...it's just a second gen Charger...Ewwww
"3rd Gens Rule"(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qdat6yw1YVlIUM:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lsyt)
Quote from: AKcharger on September 01, 2009, 08:53:59 PM
But your forgetting...it's just a second gen Charger...Ewwww
"3rd Gens Rule"
Can I stop by and pick up that piece of trash '70 that you have in storage? I can be on the road in 15 minutes...
:lol:
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Can I stop by and pick up that piece of trash '70 that you have in storage? I can be on the road in 15 minutes...
:lol:
Well ::)...OK it's yours
Quote from: AKcharger on September 02, 2009, 10:48:31 PM
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Can I stop by and pick up that piece of trash '70 that you have in storage? I can be on the road in 15 minutes...
:lol:
Well ::)...OK it's yours
Maybe I'll just wait to :drool5: over it next time you guys are at Carlisle (next year, hopefully?).
:cheers:
dfan, wish i would have found this forum sooner. could have saved you a lot of time and money. chris houg makes his living scamming and has done it for years. i can give you at least 25 names of victims i have ran across since he got me for 10k back in 2001.
forget the law, nothing will happen to him. don't take the law to help you get your car back. chris will lie and say you owe him money for restoring it for you. he has done that before also. google his name. he scams in real estate also. check pissedconsumer.com.
email me and i'll give you all of his addressess, aliases, other victims, his ss#, criminal, civil, and bankruptcy case #'s, wife and 2 daughter's names (you can see them on facebook), mother's name and address plus alot more.
he mostly scams dodge people but he delve's in mercury and other makes i'm sure. i have a list of about 20 different ebay names he has used in the past. he recently tried to sell a fake 69 runner modtop, (plymouth which he claims was special ordered with a dodge modtop) you will see that one when you google his name on the modtopregistry hit.
you have no idea what kind of misery you are going to experience taking the route you're taking to try and re-coup your loss. the fbi took my case in 2001, talked to him, said they knew he was a b.s artist and 5 years later finally told me the case was no longer active. i'm in alabama so chris is a long way away but i still plan to visit him one of these years. you are alot closer so, well, you do what you think is right but i'm telling you, there is only one way you will get your car back and it is not going thru the legal channels.
as i said, email me and i think you will see this in a whole different light.
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http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Number=5131175
http://propertytaxbuster.pissedconsumer.com/chris-houg-a-fraud-20090110144001.html
http://www.mooresmopars.com/modtop108.html
this guy is a waste of genetic material and oxygen. go get your car back and kick his ass. what a fricken punk. he is the lowest of the low and a huge piece of feces who should be made to become bubba's prison girlfriend for all the lies he has done.
i dont know this guy, but i hate him already.
Hello charger fans--even though I don't post as much right now,I still check in alot. Not just this post--but all of the topics.This is a great site with alot of outstandingly talented members. Some progress is being made in the investigation. Thanks for the support hiwayvigilante & RD---hiway,I will contact you thanks. RD--I totally agree with your sentiments and valuation. This is a BIG site for mopar enthusists of all kinds and growing. I'm sure that we are making it harder for Chris Houg to scam others and profit from it. IT IS NOT a shining moment for law enforcement yet--BUT I personally know several who ARE working on it ! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
hey dfan,
just got a call from the young lady that you spoke with about chris houg. she sounds like a very nice person and it is a shame chris got her for $36,000. it proves he will use any make, not just mopar to steal from anyone he can get to trust him.
for the rest of you guys, this young lady bought a 59 impala on ebay that chris was selling. fully restored original #'s matching, get in it and drive it away beautiful car as chris put it. unfortunately, not even close. non-original junk motor with water in it from sitting in a junk yard. trans is krap as well as the rest of the car. same as the one i bought i expect. no dash, no seats, no carpet, nothing in the engine compartment but a junk block not even bolted in, 1 bolt holding the 741 rear end on the car which was supposed to be a dana, more bondo than metal, no lights, bumpers, well, i think you get the picture.
this lady bought the car as a present for her husband. when it arrived, she called the impala specialist whoever that is in CA and before she could say much, he said, let me guess, you got it from chris houg.
just wanted to post this to back dfan up and say, do not deal with this guy on anything. if you do, you will be taken.
hope the law enforcement guys are getting somewhere with your case dfan and i assume you have told them about this lady also. give us an update when you can.
thanks, hiway
And nobody has stopped him yet......go figure :icon_smile_question: He must be making so much money that he is staying out of jail.
Quote from: The70RT on October 13, 2009, 04:58:14 PM
And nobody has stopped him yet......go figure :icon_smile_question: He must be making so much money that he is staying out of jail.
Someone will eventually end it with a bullet in his head when he scams the wrong person.
Hey Landon--sometimes I think you're --psychic :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
I'm seeing that you may be right. :yesnod:
I bet he doesn't rip anyone off on too many mid eighties Cutlass or Impalas with 24's :D......... :lol:
One morning a disgruntled customer will be at his door holding one of these with the same expression. :smilielol: :smilielol:
man, i just about got taken for 400 bucks and was getting ready to drive 1200 miles just to beat the living sh!t out of a guy for that. as i was driving out of the city, my wife phoned and told me he paypaled the money back to me. and you got took at this level?? holly man, i am fumming for you. i want to drive to the states just to get this guy!! i am sure i am not alone in thinking that. good luck to you.
clarence
I hear ya. I believe most of us on here would have been posting " This is what happened" not what is happening .....most know what I mean :flame:
Quote from: Charger440RDN on October 13, 2009, 10:29:20 PM
One morning a disgruntled customer will be at his door holding one of these with the same expression. :smilielol: :smilielol:
"Who built this mang? I did.......Who do I trust? Me That's who.
This sucks ! I want to stay posted on this.
Dfan is trying not to post too much abouth the case since the (Bad Guy) is a member on here. Doesnt want to give alot of info out about the onging investigation against him...
Although he may be less a "member" and more of an opportunist who sees this as a good place to go fishing once in a while?
It's been three months.........You would have thought he would have been to court by now. Who cares if he is a member? He can still come on here and state something. What's he gonna do sue him for slander? The car is probably not in his possession anymore.....then if you win you gotta get blood out of a turnip. If he isn't in jail by now, I sure would be.
Hes only tried to defend himself on this thread once. PUSSY!!
Paypal ruled in my favor, funds released, case closed.
Its just a matter of time before someone puts something through his skull...........
If you read this crook... F..U!!!!!!!!
Indio is about 2 hours from me... any ideas ? I also usually run into this douche at the Spring Fling... any messages you want left on his car ? (Maybe with a black sharpie or just a lot of scratches ?)
You might take a copy of that picture above, blow it up a little and tape it to the windshield so he can see it when he gets behind the wheel.
Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on January 08, 2010, 02:21:14 AM
Indio is about 2 hours from me... any ideas ? I also usually run into this douche at the Spring Fling... any messages you want left on his car ? (Maybe with a black sharpie or just a lot of scratches ?)
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Lance: Still got your Malibu?
Vincent: Aw, man. You know what some fucker did the other day?
Lance: What?
Vincent: Fucking keyed it.
Lance: Oh, man, that's fucked up.
Vincent: Tell me about it. I had it in storage for three years, it was out for five days and some dickless piece of shit fucked with it.
Lance: They should be fucking killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution.
Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it.
Lance: What a fucker!
Vincent: What's more chickenshit than fucking with a man's automobile? I mean, don't fuck with another man's vehicle.
Lance: You don't do it.
Vincent: It's just against the rules.
No matter what he did you don't f*** with his car, you can beat the living daylights out of him, but you just don't mess with a man's car.
As for the case I hope justice prevails (whatever justice that might be).
Arthur
Hello fellow board members,
Chris Houg just ripped me off in the amount of $53.95. He placed a chargeback on my paypal account saying he didn't recieve the item he purchased from me on ebay. Well, he picked the wrong guy to mess with. I ship all of my items with tracking and insurance and have proof his item was delivered. Paypal has reversed the transaction and taken back the $53.95 he paid until they investigate. What is there to investigate? I sent paypal the link to the USPS website with proof his item was delivered. That same info is also available in my paypal account transactions. They are going to take 5 days to investigate!? It would take them about 30 seconds of investigating to see what this scumbag is trying to pull. He is playing ignorant to this by saying things like "what are you talking about?" I'm going to post the truth about our transaction on every Mopar board that I'm a member of and may join more boards just to warn other venders/sellers/buyers about dealing with this scumbag. I have all the facts to back up what I'm posting, no lies, just the truth. SELLERS/BUYERS/VENDERS BEWARE!!! Here's his info in case anyone needs to pay him a friendly visit. It's too bad I'm 3500+ miles away...
Harrison Houg AKA Chris Houg
78504 Ewarton Rd
Indio, CA 92203
United States
Here's one of his ebay user names so that you can add it to your blocked bidder list:206.889mph
and here's two of his email addresses in case anyone needs to email him:xx29j9b@gmail.com and "CHRIS HOUG" <impalasinc@gmail.com>
You've all been warned.
sincerly,
Mark @ Peps Parts
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I know him. over the summer I put out a warning about him. He got ahold pf me to buy Kelsey Hays recall wheels. He insisted on COD 2400.00 dollars.
He told me he wanted to do COD becouse he did not trust me. I said no problem. I sent them and he was fighting with the UPS man over leaving the boxes at his house and he would have to come back later the pic up the money. UPS said no. so the wheels stayed in the UPS warehouse for two weeks with ups going to the house dropping of the letter telling him to go to ups to pick up. i called him , spoke to him and he told me he was on his way to ups. It never happened They came back to my house and I was out of 200.00 dollars for cod ins. and shipping...
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Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on January 08, 2010, 02:21:14 AM
Indio is about 2 hours from me... any ideas ? I also usually run into this douche at the Spring Fling... any messages you want left on his car ? (Maybe with a black sharpie or just a lot of scratches ?)
Paypal ruled in my favor, released the funds back into my account, case closed.
You won't even get an envelope. Empty promises are this guys modus operandi.
Sounds like a few people need to get together, take joker around behind the wood shed and speak to him by hand for about 20 minutes. Maybe this would get him back on track.
Quote from: Tilar on January 09, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
Sounds like a few people need to get together, take joker around behind the wood shed and speak to him by hand for about 20 minutes. Maybe this would get him back on track.
It looks to me that untill he goes to jail or worse nothing is gonna stop him. He has gotten away with so much his actions are just common place. If anyone ever see's him he will probably be alone. I don't seeing him having too many friends.
Man looks like Chris is still up to his old tricks. Sorry to hear you've been taken by him. You're not the first, and probably not the last. He was into imports for a while, and ripped off members over at s2ki.com . Check the user amuseap1. He is also into lowriders and has made a bad name for himself on layitlow.com under the name Spanish Caravan. The guy is a straight con man. In person he is a nice guy and very believable, but is always mixed up in a bad financial transaction of some sort. He passes bad checks, does constant chargebacks on his credit cards and has committed insurance fraud. Do a search for his name under the Riverside County Public Records. He has a TON of judgments against him. He was a licensed real estate agent for a while but became known for screwing people over. He did the same thing when he was selling cars for local dealerships. The guy is a con man and has been at it a long time. I hope you get him. Good luck.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=240191&st=50 (starts on middle of page 2)
http://propertytaxbuster.pissedconsumer.com/chris-houg-a-fraud-20090110144001.html
Hey
This is the problem with the US legal system , it protects the scumbag crim , and does nothing for the victim !!!!.
K.c
he will cross the wrong person one of these days...
Quote from: GL#10 on July 01, 2010, 05:50:42 AM
Hey
This is the problem with the US legal system , it protects the scumbag crim , and does nothing for the victim !!!!.
K.c
He should be given a fair trial and properly recycled like any other type of hazardous waste. :yesnod: :angel:
:popcrn:
any news, is the guy in jail? :popcrn:
This "cocks_cker" screwed me out of $1,017.04 for ten Goodyear Tires. He is lucky he lives in California and I am in Wisconsin cause I would track this crook down and WHOOP his skinny little ass!
I am really puzzled that this guy is still breathing......someone should do the world a favor here and take care of this problem :D............... :Twocents:
Had one dealing with him, he did pay me for the parts, but it was a pain, then he said he had a car he wanted me to work on, we talked a few times and now he does not reply to e-mails or phone messages. No big deal for me, but he sure talked a good game and money was no problem, guess doing a legit deal with a contract scared him!
Quote from: rrstroker71 on January 12, 2011, 07:10:13 PM
Had one dealing with him, he did pay me for the parts, but it was a pain, then he said he had a car he wanted me to work on, we talked a few times and now he does not reply to e-mails or phone messages. No big deal for me, but he sure talked a good game and money was no problem, guess doing a legit deal with a contract scared him!
Yeah you sounded like you may be hanging around a lot and he would just rather do it if you were a distance away for personal reasons.
So...
It's been a year since the last post on this...
Any updates ? :shruggy:
call matt and froy they will go get her for ya
So...
It's been since 2009 that this thread started and a year since the last post on this.
Any updates? :shruggy:
Wow , I know this whole thing happened a few years ago but "good looking out". This experience stretches beyond a charger forum. I hope it all worked out in the end for you. What comes around goes around.
I thought I read on Moparts that he committed suicide a few months ago. I tried a search over there but couldn't find it.
http://propertytaxbuster.pissedconsumer.com/chris-houg-a-fraud-20090110144001.html
Wow, that guy is a piece of work. I'm surprised someone hasn't done a little "body work" on his head.
Wow, he got someone for 40k :rotz:
Quote from: NHCharger on March 01, 2013, 09:23:42 PM
I thought I read on Moparts that he committed suicide a few months ago. I tried a search over there but couldn't find it.
Maybe it was "assisted". No room in my heart for a guy like this. Off with it...
Beware: Christopher P. Houg has a new alias: Bobby Riley
just read all this tread, why hasn't someone let this guy feel what a good piece of hickory feels like upside the Head yet
Low Life Scumbaggggggggg
Guy's like this have BIG BALLS!!! And how they can sleep at night I HAVE NO IDEA!!! If it were myself I would be looking around every corner, every minute of the day... The bastard has to know he has his coming any day, He needs a thourough ass whipping to a inch of death!!!!!
What's really sad is people not doing their homework....With all the information that's on the net, there is no reason for getting hosed in this day and age.
This douchebag simply prayed upon people's gulibility and greed. Told them exactly what they wanted to hear, and they bought it like this guy with the Daytona clone. I'm sorry, but I for one would never have even thought of trading a musclecar for some POS, run-o-the-mill, Challenger. I do find it troubling that he took as many as he did before people began to put his name "Up in lights".
If he is dead, may he continue to feel that very warm feeling of flames on his ass in hell.
Its going to end up like that guy who came into his Texas barn to find the help sexually assaulting his 6 year old daughter. Killed him right there, cops didn't say a word.
Yikes! No one should hurt the guy! He should however, be put behind bars for a very long time! As for doing your homework, if you don't know he's a con man, there's no reason to research his name....
Quote from: mom4kids on May 04, 2013, 04:13:07 PM
Yikes! No one should hurt the guy! He should however, be put behind bars for a very long time! As for doing your homework, if you don't know he's a con man, there's no reason to research his name....
Anytime you ask for MY hard earned money, your under the microscope period. No reason anybody should just "Trust" anyone else either. Doing homework means ALOT more than just phone/email conversations. It means asking ALOT of questions these days. Back about 20 years ago, we had these people, but it was ALOT harder for them to do this type thing, nowadays, it seems we have been bombarded by the scammers. Again, DO YOUR HOMEWORK Regardless.
Quote from: mom4kids on May 04, 2013, 04:13:07 PM
Yikes! No one should hurt the guy!
Oh I agree. Those that lost all their money should all gather around him and sing Kumbaya and give him hugs because he doesn't know any better.
Ok, /sarcasm off. Personally I think someone should take him out back of the barn and talk to him by hand for about 20 minutes, then feed him to the hogs.
Quote from: Tilar on May 05, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: mom4kids on May 04, 2013, 04:13:07 PM
Yikes! No one should hurt the guy!
Oh I agree. Those that lost all their money should all gather around him and sing Kumbaya and give him hugs because he doesn't know any better.
Ok, /sarcasm off. Personally I think someone should take him out back of the barn and talk to him by hand for about 20 minutes, then feed him to the hogs.
:smilielol: :lol: :D
I have this Daytona Clone. Just got it.
That's IT?!?! You have it now............. What's the story? There's got to be some more detail you can give than that!
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I am hoping to hear from Dfan about this. But yes I own it now. :2thumbs: Would like him to confirm the VIN with me.
You can email him, just click on his user id, there you'll see his email address, might be good still.
I just tried that and it won't connect.
He's back :
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,124482.0.html
I always wondered what happened to the Daytona, I heard he sold it for a purple challenger. I don't live far from Douglas I remember seeing the Daytona going down the road.
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 19, 2016, 11:55:14 PM
He's back :
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,124482.0.html
So the scammer guy is still herer?
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on June 25, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 19, 2016, 11:55:14 PM
He's back :
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,124482.0.html
So the scammer guy is still herer?
He is back. :Twocents:
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 25, 2016, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on June 25, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 19, 2016, 11:55:14 PM
He's back :
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,124482.0.html
So the scammer guy is still herer?
He is back. :Twocents:
So how does a POS like this continue with his BS?
This is not the first time I've heard of his dude, he's tried over the years to "buy" stuff I've posted for sale, or try and order repro Daytona parts from me, he just contacted me via PM on Moparts not to long ago, this is probably the 3rd time in about 5-7 yrs, and he's dumb enough to continue using the name Chris, along with some Daytona reference call name, or Email...I love how he always wants you to ship the parts COD...hope nobody gets taken by this fool
I am surprised he hasn't been banned from this site, I am even more surprised someone hasn't paid him a visit......
Even Hitler was more honest than this guy!
I'll bet this thread is still going in 2020.
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Don't know who is funnier, the thief or the clown that thinks a 6cyl car sounds like an 8 cyl and makes no phone calls.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 14, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
I'll bet this thread is still going in 2020.
Well it's 2018 & he keeps on going. I've just discovered Mr. Houg ripped me off on a car purchase made
from him 6 months ago. I can't disclose much at this time until I talk to the DA. I know the DA knows
of Houg so once I prove the VIN fraud he'll feel the heat. He __cked with the wrong guy.
Just read this thread start to finish thinking there was going to be an ending of some sort, especialy when a new owner of the daytona clone posted. Nothing but lose ends and more mystery. Shouldve stayed in bed an hour longer
Quote from: bull on July 27, 2009, 07:27:28 AM
:dancinglock: Potential for lock: high.
Well, good luck getting your car/money back. I'm sure you feel pretty stupid about letting your clone go for a V6 Challenger so I won't pile on. Chaulk it up as lesson hard learned.
How is it that this guy continues to rip people off,and never goes to jail? A real Teflon Don!
Well, it would appear as if I had dealings with this "not so honorable individual". So here's my short story to add to what seems like a never ending tail. Late last year he called me as he wanted to buy my NOS Daytona Rear Window. He claimed he had an original Hemi Daytona in the shop being restored and that the rear window had disappeared. He said he believed the shop had ripped him off but couldn't prove it. (Which is kind of funny, considering his actions with members of this forum). Anyway, after several phone calls, I started to get that "Feeling" about him and told him that he would have to pick up the window as I didn't feel like shipping it due to both the weight and the possibility of breakage. He agreed and so we set up a meeting on a Saturday for him to pick up the window.....he never showed and so I called him. He gave me a story about something coming up and so we rescheduled for the next Saturday.....again a no show and he never called. I never bothered with him again......Lucky me. I would never do business with this guy for any amount of cash....Seller beware. Our hobby doesn't need anymore individuals such as this........
Quote from: chargervert on June 11, 2018, 02:10:08 AM
How is it that this guy continues to rip people off,and never goes to jail? A real Teflon Don!
Friends in high places?
How does a guy like this who has ripped off so many for so long,keep evading law enforcement, and prosecution ?
I thought there was a list of alias' this guy used posted on here but cant seem to find it. There's post on fb on the "mopars for sale" page for a 1970 Coronet 500 project car with a very similar sounding same. posted around 11 am 6/14/2018. Location is not California, this guy is in Florida. I don't want to post a link to that ad if it's not him...
A picture of the guy could save somebody a lot of grief...
Quote from: chargervert on June 14, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
How does a guy like this who has ripped off so many for so long,keep evading law enforcement, and prosecution ?
I'm curious as to why he's still in this forum and allowed to post in the classified section?
:shruggy:
I seem to remember that he had an F6 green 69 Charger for sale not long ago,with a red Daytona in the background of the pictures of the F6 green car. IIRC this is the same guy who traded a guy amodern Challenger that was supposed to be a Hemi V8,and paid for in full car with a clear title for a red Daytona clone. The Challenger turned out to be a V6 Challenger with a Hemi engine cover onit,and it had a large note owed on it. That is probably the red Daytona in those photos of the F6 Charger.
With the number of allegations made, I'm surprised there hasn't been street justice either.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger/192570541386?&_trksid=p2041548.m738
Was surprised to see 100% feedback on eBay listing until I clicked on his feedback rating. Appears a large quantity of some funky .99 'penny' listings were accumulated and buried a negative car dealing? :shruggy:
Seller stole parts off of car before pick up. Lied about being original paint
j***0 ( 545)
More than a year ago
Dodge: Dodge Sierra Spectator Custom Royal Lancer (#191976980681)
US $30,500.00
Most mechanics steal and over-charge by exploiting others wanting work done.
They just do it legally and get away with it while this dumbass did it illegally and then theres a huge case against him. Typical propaganda garbage.
Quote from: G-man on June 23, 2018, 02:11:31 AM
Most mechanics steal and over-charge by exploiting others wanting work done.
They just do it legally and get away with it while this dumbass did it illegally and then theres a huge case against him. Typical propaganda garbage.
Most??
Check yourself.
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on June 23, 2018, 07:05:12 AM
Quote from: G-man on June 23, 2018, 02:11:31 AM
Most mechanics steal and over-charge by exploiting others wanting work done.
They just do it legally and get away with it while this dumbass did it illegally and then theres a huge case against him. Typical propaganda garbage.
Most??
Check yourself.
The saying wouldn't exist if it wasn't so. I been to 5 different mechanics, same shit with all 5. They see old car and then their labor charge goes up 3x to what is normal. Down here unless you know someone in the car industry you can trust, you need deep pockets to have jerks do stuff for you. Wife took her normal car to simply get a roadworthy, they said 5 things were wrong with the car. She paid them $150 to fix it, all they did was get some steel wool, clean the nodes on the battery and closed the lid. That costs $150? That was a car dealership.
Yet people gonna make a case out of this one guy. :slap:
The problem with 90% of the "old cars" that come into my shop are the owners. They have no idea what they are doing, have torn everything apart and changed every possible setting, tow the car in not running, and expect me to fix it for 50 bucks because "it just needs tuned" i dont change my labor rate, but i dont work for free and before i can even start "tuning" i have to fix everything that has been touched. And they NEVER give you the whole story as to what theyve butchered so you are going in blind and starting from scratch.
Same goes with alignments. Love the guys with the full size jacked up broncos and the 80-97 f series. Any mechanics on here know how bad they can be to set caster and camber on with the balljoint cams. Rust starts the problem, then the cost of each cam, yet those owners expect the regular $99 alignment fee to apply to them as well and feel i should eat the cost of the cams and extra labor to get them installed.
While alot of mechanics may be crooked, not all of us are. sometimes you are just bringing in junk, and junk cost money to make right.
My experience has been nobody wants to touch the old stuff so they quote you 3x price in hopes you go somewhere else. If they can't plug something in to tell them what's wrong they don't want to know about it. There's plenty of easy money out there so why take on the stuff they don't want to do, now if your prepared to pay 3x the price they become interested...
Needless to say I pretty much do everything I can myself now, and half the time the tools to do it youself are cheaper than the shop quote.
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on June 24, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
The problem with 90% of the "old cars" that come into my shop are the owners. They have no idea what they are doing, have torn everything apart and changed every possible setting, tow the car in not running, and expect me to fix it for 50 bucks because "it just needs tuned" i dont change my labor rate, but i dont work for free and before i can even start "tuning" i have to fix everything that has been touched. And they NEVER give you the whole story as to what theyve butchered so you are going in blind and starting from scratch.
Same goes with alignments. Love the guys with the full size jacked up broncos and the 80-97 f series. Any mechanics on here know how bad they can be to set caster and camber on with the balljoint cams. Rust starts the problem, then the cost of each cam, yet those owners expect the regular $99 alignment fee to apply to them as well and feel i should eat the cost of the cams and extra labor to get them installed.
While alot of mechanics may be crooked, not all of us are. sometimes you are just bringing in junk, and junk cost money to make right.
:cheers:
I said Most, not all :) Meaning, a vast higher majority screw people over with 'this and that' needs but in end don't do any of it cause there just making up stuff to make extra $ on.
The guy that this thread is about is intentionally screwing fellow Mopar enthusiasts over with his shady deals, he has been doing this for years, and never seems to be charged for doing it. He is lucky that street justice has not gotten to him yet. One day he will cross the wrong guy, and he will get what's coming to him.
Quote from: chargervert on June 25, 2018, 09:44:30 AM
The guy that this thread is about is intentionally screwing fellow Mopar enthusiasts over with his shady deals, he has been doing this for years, and never seems to be charged for doing it. He is lucky that street justice has not gotten to him yet. One day he will cross the wrong guy, and he will get what's coming to him.
I had a fellow from Arkansas call right before Xmas last year. Something about a Hemi Daytona a guy named Chris wants to sell him. I told him "Send me the numbers". He sends me Big Willie's King Daytona. I tell him the car doesn't exist. He sends me pics of a body shell with stock wheel tubs and a dash with an aged VIN plate (fake). I send him over to another old timer who confirms to him the car is not real. So that's where I thought it ends.
Saturday, I get a call from the same guy in Arkansas. Right back to where we started in December. He's still talking to Chris. He still wants to believe. I told him to walk away. I don't think he will listen.
This is exactly the type of fish he is counting on finding. I am sure that there are a lot of other people who he has done this type of thing to,who are too embarrassed to admit that this guy has taken them,because they were told by people in the know, who told them to walk away! If something seems to good to be true it usually is!
Just bumping up the thread since last post was a year ago
I posted on here Sept 24, 2009 and tried to convince dfan not to depend on law enforcement but he was convinced the law would fix it just as I was back in 2001 when he took me for $10k.
As I said then, the FBI took my case against this piece of shit. Even interviewed him and said they knew he was full of shit. Well 5 years later and a new federal prosecutor in office, my case was dropped in 2006. Not enuff $ for the FBI to fool with it.
For all the naysayers and those who would never let this happen to them, you don't need to read any further.
For all others, Chris Houg is a professional con artist. Do not deal in any way with him or you will be scammed.
Leadsledmercury, modtopchargerrt, xx29dodgecharger and the other 100 or so eBay names he's scammed under are probably closed accts on eBay. These are just a few names he used in 2001 on eBay and if he is still out there, you can bet he's got another 100 names he uses to sell and buy. This guy has screwed over his own mother people. Don't think for 1 second he won't take you to the cleaners
Chris is very smart and very convincing that he is stand up guy and he has scammed hundreds. He buys new cars with fake Info and never makes a payment. He has taken individuals for as much as $40k and probably more many times. It doesn't matter if it's $50 dollars or $50k, he runs the scam. He convinced one that he would work on his old Mopar for him. When the car owner finally found his car in a back yard of Chris's relative, he made the mistake of calling the sheriff's office. Chris told the deputy he was holding the car until the owner paid him for work he had done to it. He had done nothing to the car and the owner had paid him $600 up front to get started with the work. A couple days later when the owner presented enuff evidence to prove what he was saying, the car and Chris we're gone.
Chris claims to have a modtop roadrunner special ordered with a Dodge modtop and at one time it was supposedly in the modtop registry
Kelsey Hayes recall wheels, rimblow steering wheels and plenty more rare expensive Mopar, Chevy, Merc parts are another rip off specialty of his. He has no concious but he does have aliases and addresses out the ass.
Now whether you think dfan, myself and hundreds of others are idiots for being taken or not, you have been warned. If he gets you, don't go to the police. I tried to tell dfan that 10 yemars ago and looks like his Daytona clone is shown in this thread recently with a new owner. I'd bet it wasn't purchased from dfan. Instead try to track Chris down and get your shit back from him personally with much force. If you have to kill him, you will be forever known as a hero to the honest classic car enthusiasts.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 14, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
I'll bet this thread is still going in 2020.
going strong! couple of months to go!
Quote from: SWRacerX on January 07, 2016, 09:15:55 PM
I am hoping to hear from Dfan about this. But yes I own it now. :2thumbs: Would like him to confirm the VIN with me.
Quote from: SWRacerX on January 07, 2016, 09:15:55 PM
I am hoping to hear from Dfan about this. But yes I own it now. :2thumbs: Would like him to confirm the VIN with me.
Within an hour of posting my Daytona on E-bay last week got a call from a Harrison in CA and that # traces back to Christopher Houg and he wanted to buy it now. I tried calling E-bay to find I D's and names and blocking. They were absolutely no help. Any Help in blocking this scammer?
Quote from: Airmail440 on November 01, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
Within an hour of posting my Daytona on E-bay last week got a call from a Harrison in CA and that # traces back to Christopher Houg and he wanted to buy it now. I tried calling E-bay to find I D's and names and blocking. They were absolutely no help. Any Help in blocking this scammer?
you can block any person from bidding on your auctions....you just need to know the name that they are using and put it in your blocked bidder list
Bryan
About 10 years ago I somehow was trying to buy a Daytona nose and other assorted Daytona parts from him. We agreed to meet in a parking lot on a hot summer day in Palm Springs, Ca. Since I had over $10.000.00 in cash on me for the parts and I was suspicious of him I brought some people with me. The parts he brought were junk so I didn't buy them. I noticed though that when he showed up in his old Chevy dually the police showed up and parked across the parking lot and were watching us. As soon as he left , the police left too. It sure looked like they were watching him.
I find it hard to believe that this crook continues to try to scam and rob people in this day and age without consequences!
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on October 17, 2019, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 14, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
I'll bet this thread is still going in 2020.
going strong! couple of months to go!
And we are here!
btw, f6daytona profile registered active recently
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7964
But dFan dissapeared in 2014 and new owner in 2016
I hope his flesh is roasted for eternity in the fires of Hell
dfan may be embarassed to come back. Yes, he got scammed, but he didn't do his due diligance.
recently somebody at moparts talked about the differences between 72 and lates barracudas from a 70 because did know the 70 gets more money and attention and something like make look a 72 rolling chassis into a 70... and it is from Cali... Just made the initial post and didn't replied anymore... suspicious ?
he tried to buy my recall wheels for years,,,and my 69 fury VIP W23 recall wheel car.. told him bring cash and come get em! ...
he never did....luckily i was warned about him before that , so i knew..it was fun though..lol
The car has surfaced for sale.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dodge-charger-32/
Quote from: DD on January 06, 2024, 03:09:36 PMThe car has surfaced for sale.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dodge-charger-32/
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