True X9 black 69 daytona how many known

[69_500]

Ah Jim, I can't see you backing down from somebody, you always seemed to be the type to speak your mind. I'm sure you did speak your mind, but probably left unwilingly.

Jim your R4 daytona is incredible. I think you said you restored it 10+ years ago? It still looks great. I'm hoping your X9 car comes out even nicer. It is the same painter as did the R4 car right? And if you guys are going to make it to Vegas, I just got word yesterday that I will be at that show again. So I'll look for ya if you decide to make the trip.

[hemigeno]

Jim,

You might try your search again, but this time try the DMV in Oklahoma.  That might explain why it didn't show up in your Missouri search - it might not have sold new here!!

I know I already shared with you the info I found from my Missouri search that gave several other Missouri-titled Daytonas & Chargers.  They were all listed in MO as XS cars as opposed to XX - every single one of them.  Your green car was on the list not too far above mine.

[69_500]

You mean when you searched for your Daytona they gave you search results of other VIN numbers as well Gene? Wouldn't include any 500's would it?

[hemigeno]

I didn't get a complete listing of the '69 Charger titles and registrations, only a partial list.  But the information does still exist, that's the good news.  I tried and tried to get info myself from MO-DMV, and got the usual "Sorry, we don't keep records back that far" reply.  I ended up talking with a PI who has friends in high (or low) places there at the DMV.  He got me a partial computer printout sorted by VIN that has several cars before and after mine.  The VIN's are XS cars, between 407138 and 419444.

If I can get the info for this range of VINs, I'm sure it could be generated for another range.  As with Missouri, it might take someone with "connections" to get access to the right information from other states.

[69_500]

Ah I see. Well I know that in Indiana they only keep information for the past 10 years. So no luck on me using the DMV here to try to sort out what cars my dad might have had or anything like that. And I don't know anyone here that works in the DMV.

[nakita7]

There's one in Central Alberta (or at least there was about 15 years ago). It's a black on black Hemi car. Had 6000 original miles on it. Still have a picture of it from a Mopar show.

[69_500]

I was just going through some old Hemmings Motor news yesterday and saw a X9 daytona that was for sale in 1989, it might be the same one Gene mentioned. It was listed as Black, with a black interior, and a red tail stripe. I"ll try to scan the add and post it.

[hemigeno]

From what Dave mentioned, the Tom A. car was once for sale in AL.  Is that what state the Hemmings advertisement is from?

[3--Daytona]

   hemigeno ,,,nascarxx29....69-500.........How many REAL black cars have you come up with?
                                                              3--daytona

[PocketThunder]

Do they have the rest of the 67 GTO which that primered hood goes to?

Yes, it was directly to the left of the Daytona.  It was a nice Tri-Power convertible that the owner couldn't make up his mind what particular shade of blue he liked.  I was at Mike's shop in October of '04, and the car hadn't been touched between October and January '05 for that reason.

Good eyes...

My Dad has a '67 GTO Convertible, so i'm familiar with that hood shape.  but if its a tri-power then its a '66.  Only 4-barrels in '67.  Same hood though.....

[69_500]

Nope Gene isn't the one I'm thinking of, this car was for sale out of NY in December of 1988. $29,900 for it then, Black car, AT, red stripe.

I had to dig out a box of Hemmings to find it again, but its fun reading all of those adds now.

I can only think of 5 total Black Daytona's that I have seen in my lifetime. That I know were factory black cars. That is me personally. However I have always heard that the number was 9, heard a few say it was 11 total, but when I talked to people in the club it always seemed the number was 9.

[nascarxx29]

I got a stock piles of old hemmings motor news from 73 to current .Great for researching cars and amounts in what areas.They were in

[nascarxx29]

As #9 seems to be the old standing record for X9 black .Have to survey another color like this bronze daytona

[69_500]

Is that a picture of Kevin Greene's old car? the HEMI with something like 5,000 origional miles?

[nascarxx29]

No 69 500 this daytona is Cals car of Wi .The other daytona your thinking of that was Don klumps of Pa in the early 80-s was the one that went to Greg Joseph Otis Chandler.Restored by Roger G.Then bcame Kevin Greens .And currently with Tim W of Alabama

[69_500]

Thanks for the update Dave. I just looked at it and the first one that came to mind being that color was the one that Tim just picked up.

Gorgeous car I have to say. Even if my wife says that bronze cars aren't very appealing I disagree. I don't think a Daytona can look bad in any color.

[65post]

What is the rarest color known for the Winged one? I know all daytonas have the V88 ( stripe delete for the R/T ) in there tags but did any daytona slip through stripe delete?

[nascarxx29]

Im thinking a F3 green is a low number for a daytona.And then I know 2 W1 Eggshell white daytona with red interiors.And they are suppose to be a rare color interior combination.Ive heard of some daytona being stripe delete.But havent seen the car for myself

[hemigeno]

I don't think a Daytona can look bad in any color.

As far as the stripe goes, there is paperwork that shows you could order a stripe-delete Daytona. 

Special stripe will be added in conversion if desired, color of stripe, Red, White or Black, or "Omit Stripe" instruction must be provided by Dodge Plant Distribution to Modification Company.

I've seen pictures of no-stripe cars, but I could not tell from a picture alone if they were unrestored original cars or not.  I have not seen any in person, but that doesn't mean anything.  It was possible, so I suppose there are a few out there.  On those cars, the wing would be body color, correct?  Unless that was a Red or a Black car, they would have had to paint the wing a different color than normal.  R4 matched the "tomato red" stripe color, and X9 matched the black stripe.  The white stripe color didn't match W1 though, so they'd have had to get different white paint for a W1 wing on a no-stripe car.

Without pictures of the car when new, or an order form (or something similar) showing "Omit Stripe" instructions, it would be almost impossible to prove that a car originally had no stripe.  Hard to prove that it DID have a stripe (or a particular color of stripe for that matter).

[69_500]

Colors that aren't so common on Daytona's or at least of cars I've seen are these.

B3 blue, I've only seen 2.

B7 blue i've only seen 2.

Isn't there 1 999 paint code Daytona as well?

I have only seen 3 cars that are A4 silver as well.

I have heard of 9 cars being W1 white, although I have only seen 3. 2 with red interior, 1 with black.

[nascarxx29]

This chart don't have the numbers but it does have all available colors for 69.

http://autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/search/searchpic.pl?1969-dodge-pg01.jpg

[nascarxx29]

I found this old post on a search for black 69 daytonas .Ive seen some that didnt have the X9 paint code.And cant account for the ones I did see in my going arounds that did have X9 on them

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6597.0.html

[nascarxx29]

This was the count for painted daytonas in 1991 .Havent seen a updated 2006 one anywhere

Nov 91 GG paint break down A4 silver #2 B3 lt blue #2 B5 Bright Blue #23 B7 Med Blue #2 F3 Med green #2 F5 Med Green #1 F6 Bright Green #43 F8 dark green #10 Q5 Torquoise #2 R4 bright Red #75 R6 Red#6 T3 Lt Bronze#2 (T7 dark Bronze #1)V2 hemi Orange #72 W1 Egg shell White #9 X9 Black #9 Y2 Cream Yellow #24 Y3 Cream #0 Y4 Light Gold #2 #99 special order paint #1 #306 total colors known daytonas 

[69_500]

Well for one I can think of 3 A4 silver cars off of the top of my head. So I can update that much of it for him. Bob Malcom owns a A4 silver Daytona, as well as Wayne Perkins, and then the lady on Moparstyle Kismygby, I forget her first name at the moment.

[nascarxx29]

You mean J Neighbors with the silver daytona