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'68 Starlet : greeting from France !

Started by JPM, November 16, 2014, 03:16:55 AM

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JPM

Hi everybody,
My name is Jean-Paul Milhe, I'm 47 years old and I am French.
I own a 68 Charger that is the one who was showed at the Dodge area of the Salon de l'Automobile of Bruxelles in 68, introducing the model to Europe.
That explains how it is configurated, 318ci V8, automatic trans, power disk brakes, power steering, white bucket seats with center console, woodgrain wheel and a rare optional sunroof that has been badly removed by a precedent owner (the same that put non period perfect rallye wheels on it).

I'm looking for pictures of this car at the Salon de l'Auto in Belgium in 68, this is why my friend Sébastien (the french Daytona project) told me about this forum.

Here is some pictures from the first day I picked it up to my old speed shop, Bullit Racing (my associate was a fan of Mustang). It was in 2002.

In rust, I trust...

XS29L9B2

great car for a good guy  :cheers:
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JPM

In rust, I trust...

XS29L9B2

it s very difficult to write for me
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JPM

Quote from: XS29L9B2 on November 16, 2014, 03:26:11 AM
it s very difficult to write for me

It doesn't matter, eveyone can understand whith a little effort...  ;)
In rust, I trust...

charger Downunder

Wow a 68 sunroof car. Do you have the fender tag. Welcome :2thumbs:
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moparnation74

Interesting story and ride.  What is the story on the white coronet?

Ghoste


XS29L9B2

welcom to this so cool groupe
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six-tee-nine

Hello and welcome.
I am one of the few guys here that lives on your side of the atlantic.


I did'nt even know the Charger was offered over here. I know that there are export codes and that there is a original 1970 Charger 500 sold to the Netherlands. But I never figured you could order the Charger over here at a dealership back in the days.

It does make sense tough since there were no European Cryco models around back then You find alot of slant 6 valiants over here.
These days we see Lancia Voyagers on our roads and rebadged Chrysler 300's. Probably the best Lancia's on the road ever, since they could'nt seem to engineer a decent car themselves.

Anyway, great story on the car and probably one of the few original import coded cars still around
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


JPM

Quote from: charger Downunder on November 16, 2014, 07:05:43 AM
Wow a 68 sunroof car. Do you have the fender tag. Welcome :2thumbs:

Sure I have !



X - stands for the Charger model line
P- Premium Price class. These are the baseline Chargers
29 - 2 door sports hardtop (fastback Barracuda, Charger or Challenger SE)

41 - 318 2-bbl

5 - 3-speed automatic (most applications)

44 - F70x14 redlines steel belted

112 - january 12, 1968.

*****

5 = drip rail moldings
0 = body belt moldings
8 = wheel lip moldings

A - 4 = 3.23 ratio
X - blank = non sure grip (single spin)

C - Charger
6 - vinyl bucket seats
D - white & green

F - Light Green Metallic (roof)
F - Light Green Metallic  (body)
1 - monotone paint

UBS : W - ???

***

9 = front disc brakes
1 = power brakes
8 = rear window defogger
1 = AM radio
7 = tachometer

***

a : 6 = console
b : 4 = bucket seats
m : 6 = driver's outside remote operated mirror
w : 7 = build to spec's for Export


In rust, I trust...

Brock Samson


moparnation74

Do you have a build sheet?

six-tee-nine

Cool, the tag below the fender tag shows the Vin # make and model and build date in Dutch. I recon these plates from alot of cars from back in the days. That could mean this particular 68 was put into traffic in Belgium probably trough a dealeship.

The 318 makes sence, they wanted to show the car on display so a 6 cilinder was a no go but a V8 with a large displacement would be also a no go sice the majority of Europe only drove 1200cc Volkswagen Beetles back then
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


XS29L9B2

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JWWIV

charger Downunder

You should see if you can find some original pics of your car at the motor show.
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Homerr

Quote from: JPM on November 17, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
UBS : W - ???

QuoteContinuing to the right, there is a grouping of letters "UBS". The "U" is for upper interior door color, "B" for buffed paint and "S" for the stripe or accent color.

http://www.drivinithome.com/mopar-fender-tag-decoding/

So a white upper door frame.

6bblgt

Very interesting!!
Do you know the dates of the Salon de l'Automobile of Bruxelles?  I wonder if the location of the sunroof is forward compared to the factory '69-'70 versions - can you share the dimensions & position of the movable panel?

Can you share the full VIN - XP29F8B257xxx? or is it earlier?

WOW!! It would've been stunning when new.  :2thumbs:

& it would appear at least 3 sunroof '68 Chargers "factory" built  :scratchchin: 4-speed w/o console, CAR (center arm rest), auto w/console

JPM

Quote from: six-tee-nine on November 17, 2014, 02:06:41 PM
Cool, the tag below the fender tag shows the Vin # make and model and build date in Dutch. I recon these plates from alot of cars from back in the days. That could mean this particular 68 was put into traffic in Belgium probably trough a dealeship.

The 318 makes sence, they wanted to show the car on display so a 6 cilinder was a no go but a V8 with a large displacement would be also a no go sice the majority of Europe only drove 1200cc Volkswagen Beetles back then

In 68, some Mustang were assembled in Holland too, in reply to the high demand. They weared special fender tags too, that were screwed on the right inner front fender.
And the Shelbys were sold by Claude Dubois in Belgium, the unique official dealer for Europe.
In rust, I trust...

kokxville

Very cool story  :2thumbs:
I know that some e-body cars were build back in the day at the Chrysler plant in Rotterdam,but this is new for me. :cheers:
1969 Charger R/T 4 speed A33 Track Pack.
1967 Dodge a108 360 Magnum. Daily driver
1969 Dodge Charger"the car you can take your kids in to school on a friday,go shopping on a saturday,dragrace on a sunday and go to work on monday"

JPM

Quote from: Homerr on November 17, 2014, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: JPM on November 17, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
UBS : W - ???

QuoteContinuing to the right, there is a grouping of letters "UBS". The "U" is for upper interior door color, "B" for buffed paint and "S" for the stripe or accent color.

http://www.drivinithome.com/mopar-fender-tag-decoding/

So a white upper door frame.

"Continuing to the right, there is a grouping of letters "UBS". The "U" is for upper interior door color, "B" for buffed paint and "S" for the stripe or accent color. "

Thanks !  :2thumbs:
In rust, I trust...

Cncguy

You will never see body lines that sharp on a restored charger. I think it's how thick we make the paint that rounds them up

JPM

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 18, 2014, 02:44:44 AM
Very interesting!!
... I wonder if the location of the sunroof is forward compared to the factory '69-'70 versions - can you share the dimensions & position of the movable panel?

How I explained in my first message, the sunroof has been removed by the precedent owner : a flat sheet of metal, too much welding and he ruined all the roof...  :RantExplode:
I didn't got the parts to repair and the sunroof was not a priority for me... So, I started to repair it with a '71 Mach One Mustang insert (the new roof panel was not available in 2002)
I will buy a new roof in the future, and will repair mine in the rules of the art (it's one of my businesses)...

In rust, I trust...

Dino

Hmmm showing that big hole I wonder what it would look like to have one of those full length tinted glass roofs in there like Mercedes and the likes.

I grew up in Belgium and never knew Chargers were sold over there.  My dad had an old Plymouth before I was born though.
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