Ted Stephens Daytona Wreck Under the Knife

[Wingnut426]

Does anybody know if he has the ORIGINAL VIN tag and body tag?  If he is using repro tags, then I think it just plain wrong to reconstruct the car.   

[charger_fan_4ever]

Does anybody know if he has the ORIGINAL VIN tag and body tag?  If he is using repro tags, then I think it just plain wrong to reconstruct the car.   

AMD fb page they posted he did have the originals.

[Aero426]

I would say that there is enough "there" to justify a restoration.    You have the entire central body shell, as bad as some of the rust is.     If the original tags and numbers are available to reunite, I don't see why this can't be viable given there is likely financial and parts "help" to get the car done.    Everyone will know what it is.    Not my kind of car, but it is still a real Daytona.   There is an ass for every seat.   

[tan top]

 lot of good pictures here ,   

https://www.facebook.com/Auto-Metal-Direct-48713602862/

[tan top]

Does anybody know if he has the ORIGINAL VIN tag and body tag?  If he is using repro tags, then I think it just plain wrong to reconstruct the car.  

AMD fb page they posted he did have the originals.

https://www.facebook.com/Auto-Metal-Direct-48713602862/   

[Homerr]

BTW VIN is XX29L9B405184

[Homerr]

I think this is the way to do this sort of restoration - lots and lots of progress pics.  Then everyone can decide for themselves if it is genuine, rebody, fraud, etc.  But at least everyone knows what is going on with it.

[Highbanked Hauler]

I think this is the way to do this sort of restoration - lots and lots of progress pics.  Then everyone can decide for themselves if it is genuine, rebody, fraud, etc.  But at least everyone knows what is going on with it.

    Your right, anyone who would buy the car will know how it was done right up front

[djcarguy]

 

[Patronus]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal. 

[DAY CLONA]

Does anybody know if he has the ORIGINAL VIN tag and body tag?  If he is using repro tags, then I think it just plain wrong to reconstruct the car.   

From what I recall TS has the original tags, so does that make it OK now? what if the tags are so bad, that "repros" of the original tags were made, hows that any different?...I fail to see or comprehend this obsession some have about tags, rebodies, clones, reconstructions, etc, all nonsense, it's just a machine, and a bunch of numbers assigned to create an identity, not a deity

[held1823]

if they're just numbers, XP29F would be just as suitable for showcasing AMD panels as is  XX29L

no one on the planet would drag this shell out of the junkyard if not for that second X

[moparstuart]

I would say that there is enough "there" to justify a restoration.    You have the entire central body shell, as bad as some of the rust is.     If the original tags and numbers are available to reunite, I don't see why this can't be viable given there is likely financial and parts "help" to get the car done.    Everyone will know what it is.    Not my kind of car, but it is still a real Daytona.   There is an ass for every seat.   

better then no daytona at all   

[DAY CLONA]

if they're just numbers, XP29F would be just as suitable for showcasing AMD panels as is  XX29L

no one on the planet would drag this shell out of the junkyard if not for that second X

XP29F doesn't have a wing and nose so not a viable candidate for promotion, XP29F would be just another Charger,  this is just a "circus act" to resurrect a "valuable/desirable" car, much like a GYC stunt

In the real world, XP29F would roll in and disappear, XX29L would roll out

[odcics2]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal. 

Putting the dash back in and vin is ok.   It came from that 'car'....  No swapping going on here with
another body...   

[DAY CLONA]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal.  

Putting the dash back in and vin is ok.   It came from that 'car'....  No swapping going on here with
another body...  

After they cut off the rust, twisted metal, etc ...I think they'll have even less to start with than this Mopar...no swapping going on here and people say rebodies are a bad thing...at least with a rebody using a clean donor, it's still has it original issued Chrysler sheetmetal, what does this "restoration" have that makes it "restored back to original"   still nothing wrong with this measure either, I'm all for recreating or creating a vehicle in any way shape or form, I just find it funny how those who preach the righteous VIN/numbers restoration mantra would cringe if they saw how some high end cars that are later praised for the restoration that "saved" them, looked like this behind closed doors...this AMD built (recreated) Cuda was basically an AMD version of a Dynacorn "replacement" body, just an slight hint of the original car's "essence" and it's legit to wear it's original tags

FYI...even the front rails in that pic came from another Cuda

[hemi68charger]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal.  

Putting the dash back in and vin is ok.   It came from that 'car'....  No swapping going on here with
another body...  

After they cut off the rust, twisted metal, etc ...I think they'll have even less to start with than this Mopar...no swapping going on here and people say rebodies are a bad thing...at least with a rebody using a clean donor, it's still has it original issued Chrysler sheetmetal, what does this "restoration" have that makes it "restored back to original"   still nothing wrong with this measure either, I'm all for recreating or creating a vehicle in any way shape or form, I just find it funny how those who preach the righteous VIN/numbers restoration mantra would cringe if they saw how some high end cars that are later praised for the restoration that "saved" them, looked like this behind closed doors...this AMD built (recreated) Cuda was basically an AMD version of a Dynacorn "replacement" body, just an slight hint of the original car's "essence" and it's legit to wear it's original tags

FYI...even the front rails in that pic came from another Cuda

Hey look, it is a Daytona kit-car...

[Nwcharger]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal.  

Putting the dash back in and vin is ok.   It came from that 'car'....  No swapping going on here with
another body...  

After they cut off the rust, twisted metal, etc ...I think they'll have even less to start with than this Mopar...no swapping going on here and people say rebodies are a bad thing...at least with a rebody using a clean donor, it's still has it original issued Chrysler sheetmetal, what does this "restoration" have that makes it "restored back to original"   still nothing wrong with this measure either, I'm all for recreating or creating a vehicle in any way shape or form, I just find it funny how those who preach the righteous VIN/numbers restoration mantra would cringe if they saw how some high end cars that are later praised for the restoration that "saved" them, looked like this behind closed doors...this AMD built (recreated) Cuda was basically an AMD version of a Dynacorn "replacement" body, just an slight hint of the original car's "essence" and it's legit to wear it's original tags

FYI...even the front rails in that pic came from another Cuda

funny mark said there's not enough of my Daytona to bring back yet all he saved from this car was the outer rockers and door jambs and of course body numbers. At least when I do get to my car I'll know there will be more of my original body saved than marks phantom re body.

[DAY CLONA]

Personally I just can't see it. That thing is yard art.
Putting that vin tag back on should be illegal.  

Putting the dash back in and vin is ok.   It came from that 'car'....  No swapping going on here with
another body...  

After they cut off the rust, twisted metal, etc ...I think they'll have even less to start with than this Mopar...no swapping going on here and people say rebodies are a bad thing...at least with a rebody using a clean donor, it's still has it original issued Chrysler sheetmetal, what does this "restoration" have that makes it "restored back to original"   still nothing wrong with this measure either, I'm all for recreating or creating a vehicle in any way shape or form, I just find it funny how those who preach the righteous VIN/numbers restoration mantra would cringe if they saw how some high end cars that are later praised for the restoration that "saved" them, looked like this behind closed doors...this AMD built (recreated) Cuda was basically an AMD version of a Dynacorn "replacement" body, just an slight hint of the original car's "essence" and it's legit to wear it's original tags

FYI...even the front rails in that pic came from another Cuda

funny mark said there's not enough of my Daytona to bring back yet all he saved from this car was the outer rockers and door jambs and of course body numbers. At least when I do get to my car I'll know there will be more of my original body saved than marks phantom re body.

Number 1, the Cuda was well beyond Marks skill set, number 2, no way was he going to pull off recreating that car under the viewer's eye and call it a restoration, and number 3 the cost was probably well outside the budget allowed, so when AMD "volunteered" their services/products it was now easy-peasy...that's most likely why why he passed on your car

[crj1968]

Does the dash VIN match the door VIN? To the DMV that's all that matters. Usually they don't even look at the door VIN sticker, if it's even there.

If you are keeping the car in state you could attach the VIN to a soup can and register and insure it, if you like.

Like it or not, that car is and always will be a real Daytona, because it's all about the VIN. The rest is just metal surrounding the VIN regardless of how it gets there.

Re-sale on something like that?   

[hemigeno]

Does the dash VIN match the door VIN? To the DMV that's all that matters. Usually they don't even look at the door VIN sticker, if it's even there.

Not every Daytona has a door VIN label.  In fact, most of them do NOT have a VIN decal based on my research.

Ted's car falls into the category of a car that I would not expect to have a decal, and would be surprised/interested to see photos of it if it did have such.

[crj1968]

Not every Daytona has a door VIN label.  In fact, most of them do NOT have a VIN decal based on my research.

Interesting...learn something new every day.

[Montreal Wing Car]

Didn't door VIN decals start with the 1970 model year?

Ben

[MoPaR 312]

Not sure if my thinking for door VIN stickers is right if some Daytona's had them but I'm assuming the Daytona's were a late 69 build, after the Charger 500s so maybe the decals were already starting to appear by the time they were built??  I mean the front clip/hood is basically a 70 Charger so I would assume so but I don't know much about the Daytona's honestly.  I'll search the web for build dates to check this out and probably prove my theory wrong though. 

[500Jon]

Hi Aero's,

One day there will be 503 Daytona's back in circulation again!
As the values rise and the Aero-Folks want one at any price, they will ALL return!!!
Its happening now with registered but 'un-built' British Exotica cars, (Racing Jaguars).

If the CAR existed then the 'POWERS to BE' will allow their re-creation...

So whats their value, a re-creation, no original parts , but a correct VIN?
Maybe half that of a documented ORIGINAL-Detroit metal Daytona?
Most of US couldn't even afford one at HALF PRICE...

No silly WING/NOSE and much easier to PARK.

For me a C500 is rarer and MORE desirable anyways...