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1968 Charger Registry

Started by Homerr, August 06, 2016, 08:02:20 PM

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69CoronetRT

Quote from: lloyd3 on August 09, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
At what point can you begin to make evaluations as to the total number of cars still surviving?

At some point a random sample will become statistically significant. You do not need to survey ALL cars to determine how many came in B5 as a percentage of the total built. You can survey a number smaller than the total and be able to derive conclusions that will be accurate within a diminishing percentage.

If you look at 500 tags/broadcast sheets and 50 are B5, then our percentage is 10%.
If you add 500 more and you find 49 are B5 then your total percentage is ~10%
Add another 500 and find 51 are B5 you are at 10%.

It's likely that if you add another 500, your percentage of B5 cars will still be around 10%.

At that point, it's probably not necessary to add another 2,000 cars to the sample to be reasonably sure that about 10% of the total cars produced were B5.

BUT you have to make sure your sample is a true random sample. One portion of the production year does not outweigh the sample from the rest of the year.

That is why it is so important for registry folks and (numbers guys like me) that data from all cars, especially cars that are parted and never seen again, is saved and collected. Data from all cars produced adds to the statistical significance and reliability of the data.

If you hit the salvage yards, get pictures of fender tags from all the cars you can and share them! You may be the last person to have a chance to document a car.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

lloyd3

69CoronetRT: I was hoping there was a numbers guy here!  I only know enough to be dangerous. 

Homerr

Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 09, 2016, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Homerr on August 09, 2016, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on August 09, 2016, 09:48:19 AM
:cheers: THX MAN! I just submitted my turd but forgot to check off Tinted Glass & Green Top  :yesnod:

Tinted all glass?

Which VIN?

236501 Tinted All Glass

Ok, it's updated.

Chad L. Magee

I have two of my 68s that had 22 for the moldings, but I did not see a spot to put them so I left that code blank on them.
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

Homerr

Quote from: Chad L. Magee on August 09, 2016, 07:32:50 PM
I have two of my 68s that had 22 for the moldings, but I did not see a spot to put them so I left that code blank on them.

On the second row, a 2 over a 2 ?  Can you post a pic?

67Charger440

Just added my slant 6 '68...

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: Homerr on August 09, 2016, 08:18:25 PM
Quote from: Chad L. Magee on August 09, 2016, 07:32:50 PM
I have two of my 68s that had 22 for the moldings, but I did not see a spot to put them so I left that code blank on them.

On the second row, a 2 over a 2 ?  Can you post a pic?

Well, I was wrong.  Doh :slap:  The rust on them made a 5 look like a 2....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

6bblgt

who entered the '68 Charger R/T XS29L8B104706?  can you share a pic of the fender tag?

it must've had some spacing issues on the top line, it probably should've looked like this (a/6 - console ** b/4 - buckets ** h/7 - hood turn signals ** m/6 - LH remote mirror)  :scratchchin: sound right?

- there is NO "s" on the top line of the fender tag, but you have one & so does the registry?  :o

Homerr

6bblgt - the other was this could have been entered is by observation, but the fender tag is missing.  Says it was entered by the current owner.

6bblgt

Quote from: Homerr on August 10, 2016, 12:23:58 PM
6bblgt - the other was this could have been entered is by observation, but the fender tag is missing.  Says it was entered by the current owner.

his note

lloyd3

All this 68 Registry activity has made me curious about the other Charger registries out there.  As a matter of comparison, Barry Washington's 1970 Hamtramck Registry is claiming to have registered 9,844 cars(!).  Don Lebouf's 1970 Registry claims 3358 cars . The 66-67 Registry car number is listed at 2282. (Heck, there's even a 1971 R/T & Superbee registry that seems to have records for 2184 cars.) The 66-67 registry and Mr. Lebouf's registry seem fairly straightforward. Not really sure yet what Mr. Washington's site entails just yet.

Is there, by chance, a summary somewhere that captures the history and function of these sites?

ht4spd307


Tom68

Question.  I've got two to enter when I have time (this weekend?).

The R/T I'm restoring and my parts car.

The parts car is long gone (25+ years), but I have the dash structure with VIN and the fender tag.  It was an XP, 383, auto with air.

The R/T is missing the fender tag; and it had been stripped for parts by the time I got it.  But by physical evidence I know some things about the car.  It was non-air, black vinyl top, black bumble bee stripe, auto, and was green (pretty sure it was TT1).  Should I enter those facts even though I don't have a fender tag to prove them out?

Also, the floor pans are original, but there were no brackets for console or buddy seat.  Can I infer it had neither?

BTW, thanks for doing this.  It'll be awesome as it comes together.  Great job!

Dans 68

I would add the fender tag items that you are sure about, and also a note on what and why you did. The more detail the better. I just added a car that I had a build sheet for, but nothing else. I noted it.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

68pplcharger

just submitted mine, I also had to have the body tag redone. The previous owner lost the tag while having the car sandblasted. Most of the information was easily determined. I made an assumption with the interior color, since it came with black interior, and found out after the tag was made that my assumption was incorrect. While restoring the dash I found original blue paint under the dash pad and blue overspray inside the frame where the dash pad mounts. so my tag reads C6X instead of C6B. Explains why the extra door panel was blue... :brickwall:

lloyd3

ht4spd307: It is my understanding that the 1969 Charger registry is being resurrected by a member here. He, however, has been beset by some personal challenges that have sidelined him for a bit.

Homerr

Quote from: Dans 68 on August 11, 2016, 09:53:28 AM
I would add the fender tag items that you are sure about, and also a note on what and why you did. The more detail the better. I just added a car that I had a build sheet for, but nothing else. I noted it.

Dan

Tom68 -

Yes, as Dans 68 says.

Homerr

Incidentally, I ran across this just now.

Quote from: bull on January 10, 2007, 01:14:10 PM
If the '68 registry site ever gets going we might have a place to share and store all this information that's easily referenced.


For those that have PM'd or emailed, I'll be getting to your items/fixes tonight/tomorrow.

cbrestorations

i have 3 68 r/ts and one 383 4bbl car to submit when i get some spare time.

6bblgt

I see a couple entries without a plant designation
for the 1968 model year:
Hamtramck, MI "scheduled" Chargers July/67  thru July/68 (potentially ~8B100001 to ~8B454629) ~88,325 Chargers 92%
St. Louis, MO "scheduled" Chargers March/68 thru July/68 (potentially ~8G197754 to ~8G282415) ~7,783 Chargers 8%
"WE" can "assume":
any '68 Charger SPD before 301 is from Hamtramck "8B"
any '68 Charger VIN sequence before 195000 is from Hamtramck "8B"
any '68 Charger VIN sequence after 290000 is from Hamtramck "8B"

68X426

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 12, 2016, 03:37:52 PM
St. Louis, MO "scheduled" Chargers March/68 thru July/68 (potentially ~8G201424 to ~8G282415)

any '68 Charger VIN sequence before 200000 is from Hamtramck "8B"


Slight revision needed.  8G197754 is likely the first St. Louis Charger. 

The VIN 8G 201424 should be 197754.  8G197754 is already in the DC registry, at line 53, dated March 4.

The sequence can read  "before 197754" is Hamtramck.

Great job by the way on the "assumptions".  I agree :2thumbs:






The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

6bblgt

thanks,  :icon_smile_blackeye: missed that one (& adjusted my numbers above) -*-*-*-*- but "tires" were entered incorrectly

RECHRGD

Just submitted my XP29F car.  Now an R/T clone.....
13.53 @ 105.32

Homerr

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 13, 2016, 02:23:32 AM
thanks,  :icon_smile_blackeye: missed that one (& adjusted my numbers above) -*-*-*-*- but "tires" were entered incorrectly

Fixed the tires.

Been sick the last few days with summer flu, so I'm just getting to this.


6bblgt (and all) -

For the SO# I'm seeing 5 and 6 digits, but is a leading zero getting dropped off on all the 5 digit SO (so they should be 0xxxxx)?


68X426


I have never solved this problem on any Excel spreadsheet, this one or any ever.  Excel drops the leading 0 (zero).  I've not got the skill or patience with Excel to solve the zero problem.

My workaround is to use a capital O (O like Oscar) in place of the 0 (zero). 




The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow