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« on: February 09, 2018, 08:20:44 AM »

I had a 68 - 318, 904, PS, radio. no other options. 
Weighed 3307.

Had a 74 SE, 318, 727, A/C, PS, PB, radio.
It weighed 3850.

Be interesting to hear about other years and engine, option, combinations...

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 09:40:38 AM »

That's interesting, my 68 is pretty much the same but I've never had a chance to weigh it. I always assumed it weighed 3600-3700 lbs
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 09:50:20 AM »

My 69 RT is just under two tons.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 10:06:50 AM »

Iím curious about my Ď68.  Not sure that the 440 is much more than a stock 318 because of the aluminum heads and intake.  Still think it would come in around 3,700 or 3,800 with the larger than stock wheels and tires...  Iíll get it weighed this spring.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 10:39:25 AM »

need to have mine weighed for sure. The only thing on my 440 that is cast iron is the block. lost about 100lbs with the rear end set up but gained about 75 with the roll cage. also lost 4 gillion lbs with the fiberglass hood.

to the scale this spring I go...  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 11:48:43 PM »

I weighed mine in 2000, then 2002. 1970 Charger, 318-904-8.25 axle with 4 wheel 10" drums. 3650. Later with a iron head 440-727-8.75 and 11" front discs, I was at 3850. Since then I have changed to aluminum heads but then added torque boxes, subframe connectors, gussets to the K member and lower control arms. I went with lighter seats but then moved the battery to the trunk. The longer wiring and cables added weight. I do wonder if am under 4000 lbs as it sits now.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2018, 12:09:21 AM »

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I had a 68 - 318, 904, PS, radio. no other options.  
Weighed 3307.

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I weighed mine in 2000, then 2002. 1970 Charger, 318-904-8.25 axle with 4 wheel 10" drums. 3650.


Same drivetrain, 350 lbs difference.  

The numbers for 2nd-gens are always all over the place.  
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2018, 07:12:49 AM »

1970 has more weight because of the loop bumper and electric motor, but not that much!
I did a have Ansen wheels...

I think my weight was on the light side.   Scales were off??  This was back in 1974, when I weighed it.

Need more guys to chime in.

Any more guys with 73 -74s?   Wondering if my 74 SE weight was accurate now...
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 09:56:13 AM »

My dad took his new 69 R/T ( 440 auto on the column, rear defrost, F70 14 dog dish wheel, power steering, non air, heavy duty cooling, with full tank of gas and spare tire) to a grain elevator and it weighed 3900 something.  It was just a few lbs under 4k. I have the grain ticket some where. I just finished with the resto this summer.  It now has a 4 spd and frame connectors.  It will be interesting to see what it weighs now.    Also disk brakes.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 11:56:17 AM »

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I had a 68 - 318, 904, PS, radio. no other options.  
Weighed 3307.

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I weighed mine in 2000, then 2002. 1970 Charger, 318-904-8.25 axle with 4 wheel 10" drums. 3650.


Same drivetrain, 350 lbs difference.  

The numbers for 2nd-gens are always all over the place.  
My 1970 is originally a 500 model. It had factory A/C, P/S, bucket seats, console, AM radio and a vinyl top.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2018, 10:20:51 AM »

Wonder what the entire AC system weight, including the evaporator inside the car?   shruggy
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2018, 11:10:11 AM »

As soon as it stops raining cats and dogs I can estimate that, as I have a spare AC box and a few dead compressors around.  I can tell you that the box weight is substantial, assembled with all the actuators, internal valve, evap, core, etc.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2018, 11:18:44 AM »

As soon as it stops raining cats and dogs I can estimate that, as I have a spare AC box and a few dead compressors around.  I can tell you that the box weight is substantial, assembled with all the actuators, internal valve, evap, core, etc.
Cool. Wound be good info for all to know, if deciding to lighten a car by deleting it all.
Thanks, in advance.  2thumbs
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2018, 05:30:38 PM »

my 66 383 was 3750 bigger wheels probably 4000
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 08:37:11 PM »

My 70 R/T S.E. loaded with options weighs 4290 with a 1/4 tank of gas and me not in it on our certified race car scales. Yes, it is a heavy weight. All those options add up.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2018, 10:08:47 PM »

Posting the weight with the driver in it is good for drag racing purposes but it helps to know what the driver weighs! I am 195, my Brother in Law is 135.  lol
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 10:41:23 PM »

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My 70 R/T S.E. loaded with options weighs 4290 with a 1/4 tank of gas and me not in it on our certified race car scales. Yes, it is a heavy weight. All those options add up.


Now we're up to 1000-lb difference between two 2nd-gens in this thread.  


A 318/904 versus a 440/727/AC . . . I doubt that is more than 250 lbs of difference in the drivetrain.  Power steering on both.  

Where is the rest of it?   The rest of the AC system might add 100 lbs over a heater-only.  The '70 bumper & electric headlight door motor, the power brake booster, that might be another 100 lbs total.  


I still see a 500-lb discrepancy here.  Aluminum rocker trim & leather seat inserts don't cover it.  

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2018, 07:10:33 AM »

A 3300 pound 69 charger that is not a dedicated drag car is going to be pretty tough to verify. 3800-4200 is accurate
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2018, 08:17:31 AM »

Don't forget all the Bondo that gets added over the years.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2018, 09:26:13 AM »

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My 70 R/T S.E. loaded with options weighs 4290 with a 1/4 tank of gas and me not in it on our certified race car scales. Yes, it is a heavy weight. All those options add up.


Now we're up to 1000-lb difference between two 2nd-gens in this thread.  


A 318/904 versus a 440/727/AC . . . I doubt that is more than 250 lbs of difference in the drivetrain.  Power steering on both.  

Where is the rest of it?   The rest of the AC system might add 100 lbs over a heater-only.  The '70 bumper & electric headlight door motor, the power brake booster, that might be another 100 lbs total.  


I still see a 500-lb discrepancy here.  Aluminum rocker trim & leather seat inserts don't cover it.  



That is what our scales showed. Matched the weights with race track scale on buddies other cars. Mine also has factory rear defrost, trailer hitch (now not on car), luggage rack (now not on car), power windows, 6 way seat, power steering with cooler,  power disc brakes, cruise control, front bumperettes with that huge steel horizontal cross bar, hood pins, hood turn signals, hood pad, 26" radiator,  California emissions (still on car), factory spare and all factory jack and hardware in trunk. Of course this was with Cragar wheels and 15x10's on the rear. Those wheels aren't light either. Oh yeah, Door edge guards, wheel lip mouldings also. See, it all adds up.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2018, 11:32:44 AM »

  
One of the surviving TV General Lees was weighed by a car magazine a few years ago.  Only 3700 lbs.    

That's a nearly stock '69 with 440/727/8.75, power steering, and AC.  There was no spare tire/jack but the GL pushbar and rollbar would add about 80 lbs.  The only other factor removing weight would be alloy wheels.  The AC compressor & HVAC dash assy were still there.  Full interior except for the headrests & carpet.




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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2018, 12:27:08 PM »

Anyone know much lighter is a 68-70 roadrunner is, compared to a similar charger or super bee?
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2018, 01:02:34 PM »

I'm going to change the A/C in my 70 from a factory style to an all electric Classic Auto Air setup. The water pump housing will now be aluminum. I'm curious about how the car's weight will be different. The stock HVAC box looks much bigger than the CAA unit. I'll weigh the car before and after to know for sure.
The heat and air has not worked in all of the time that I have had the car. I had felt that it was not necessary in a car that I drove so infrequently...BUT maybe with a functional heat and air system, maybe I'll drive it more ?
An a similar note...
Steve Dulcich once wrote an article about a 71 Satellite he had, 383 car that was a real basic model. No A/C, crank windows, bench seat...He listed it as under 3400 lbs. I was under the impression that the 71-74 B body cars weighed more than the 68-70 even though they were shorter, slightly smaller cars.
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2018, 07:18:08 PM »

.....I was under the impression that the 71-74 B body cars weighed more than the 68-70 even though they were shorter, slightly smaller cars.

Shorter yes, but weren't they wider?  shruggy

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2018, 08:46:49 PM »

They could be. They look like they are, sorta like seeing your high school crush at the 30 year reunion. In High School she looked like the 68-70. At the reunion she looks like the 71-74.   smilielol
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