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rear sway bar bolt

Started by Nacho-RT74, August 19, 2005, 02:25:40 PM

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Nacho-RT74

I need/wish to know what's the size and kind of bolt/thread of the bolt that attach the bracket to frame rail
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

C'mon guys... does nobody have rear sway bar here ?... just a pic of OEM bolt will help, telling me what size head bolt is...
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

8WHEELER

Not that anyone listens to me but, I put a sway bar on my 68 Charger that I took
right off a 78 Dodge Aspen Police car. The bolts I took out of that car in 1980 were
original and correct. They are kind of a self tapping bolt on the first three threads
or so, if you have seen or have any of those bolts that hold the center caps on
the Magnum style wheels? that is about as close as I have ever seen to them
if not exactly the same. It has a 7/16 socket sized head to the bolt.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Nacho-RT74

OK, so 7/16 sized head, and selftapping screw... Is a fine kind threaded bolt I suppose... Does it ?. I never have seen the magnum center caps screws

Maybe is similar used to gas and brakes ducts brackets ?

Does it have an incorporated washer on it or it has a "plain lip" on head ?

Head size is very important... I almost buy a 1/2 head size set of bolts, and that could oversized the hole on frame... bad. Thanks about that.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

1973_WP29P

Nacho,

I just went and pulled an original bolt out of my 73 SE.  It has a 1/2" hex with an incorperated flanged head.  The flange is also a lock flange, it has  serrations under it.  I am working on the thread size.  They are 5/16" diameter x 3/4" long and seem to be fine thread, but I will find out exactly what they are tomorrow at work.  They are a tapered selftapping bolt.  Funny thing was after I cleaned the undercoating off the head it has a picture of an anchor in the center of the head. I will try to take a good picture of it. 

I noticed your bar has a bend in it.  Mine is straight across where it goes under the rearend.  I also have part #'s off my swaybar plates if you would like them.


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1973_WP29P

Sorry about the blurry one.  I can retry if you want me too.


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1973_WP29P

Here are my plates.

1973_WP29P

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Nacho-RT74

Tha's not my sway bar just an ebay image... but Mine is NOS and also is bended at center... all depends of the angle you see it.

Those are the sway bar plates that I also need, to the isolated spring clamps kind. I found just the plain ones to the non isolated system so I need to addapt it, filling the space between clamp and plate with something.

Great pics and also helpfull.

I have part numbers since I have 74 Mopar catalog.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

AmadeusCharger500

Holy crow glad I saw this post.
I am working on a 73 right now and purchased a sway bar on e-bay. Was not sure how to attach it and thought perhaps the eyeholes at each end attached to the shocks. I am dead wrong no? So do I need to get those brackets. Are there 2 for each side?
Thanks for any help. I would love to get this sway bar on, since the whole rearend has been rebuilt and painted.

HH

Nacho-RT74

First you need to know if you car has isolated springs clamps or not... being a 73 maybe your one is the isolated kind.

As you are seeing all the assembly that you need at springs is this one:

on pic there is boths sides springs assembly, one to each side.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Mounted looks like this: ( it has missed the rear sway bar itself but the rod   is there, aslo shock absorver is removed )

You can notice also the rubber isolator between clamps and spring, that's the reason why is the ISOLATED KIND.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

1973_WP29P

Thread is 5/16" x 18 coarse.  Here are some that I sell at work that are pretty close.  If you would like to buy some just let me know.

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Nacho-RT74

On frame rails ( at least on my 74 ) the holes to brackets are already opened to fit bolt them... you can see the frame brackets attached on rail already on 8wheeler pic at the right of pic. Probably, you car also has already opened the holes, clean that area and check, normally are hidden by undercoat and/or dust.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

I think I can find them here, but I'll keep you updated and let you know if not... THANKS!!!

continuing with assemblies info, this is the not isolated kind, where sway bar assembly ( with rod ) is the same, and also frame brackets, but clamps are completely different and not interchangeable ( both lower and upper plates can't be mixed with the other one) because also axle housing pedestal is different to fit on Big hole to the isolated kind or small hole to the stud guide on spring itself. You can anyway modify with some job some parts.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

1973_WP29P

Nacho,

Have you seen any replacements for the end links?  I am planning on building some with poly bushing.


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Nacho-RT74

all that I could find is NOS sway bars with original rubber and rod, because the OEM sway bar was sold with that
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

8WHEELER

I am pretty sure the sway bar that I have that came out of that 78 Dodge Aspen Police
car is very different than the correct bar for a 3rd gen. The bolts that go into the frame
are the same shouldered bolt. I have an extra hole becuase I made a woops   :(
Also my bar is not strait, and the links I have are very short.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

8WHEELER

74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Nacho-RT74

No, But I won't go for them... they are to Firewall and if they are the correct ones the head size is 3/8", too small for sway bar bracket purpouse
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

AmadeusCharger500

Well mine doesn't have any of those brackets, so what are my options. Is there just one bracket I need to find for each side or are there 2 like in the examples above. These are only used parts correct?

BTW, Thanks for all those great pics everyone.

Nacho-RT74

OK, then your car is the non isolated kind... the upper plate on the non isolated spring assembly is just to the sway bar. The ones that I bought/found were to that assembly, but I bought truting on seller... big mistake, now I have to adapt it

Yes they are only Used parts.

This is mine and the ones you need to find ( it is some rusted but works ):
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

AmadeusCharger500

Thats great to know. Now what key words to use on e-bay to find those parts.

Thanks

1973_WP29P

So can we assume that if you have a bent swaybar you will have shorter end links because the bend in the bar goes around the differential and if the bar is straight like mine you will have the longer links because it needs more room to go past the differential. ???


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