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« on: September 26, 2009, 07:54:13 PM »

Anyone have some pics of Sparton Hi-Lo horns installed on a 70 Charger?  Not sure exactly of the location or what mounting holes to use.  Thanks.  Undecided
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 11:01:09 PM »

at a side of radiator ( passenger side ON ENGINE BAY ). You'll find the nuts attached to radiator core support and the key hole at a side.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 07:06:22 AM »

Thanks for the response Nacho.  I wasn't looking at the radiator support. That helps!  2thumbs
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 10:27:01 AM »

 yesnod


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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 06:41:04 AM »

Perfect pic.  What is that relay for?  Is this pic off a 70 Charger?
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 07:05:30 AM »

thats the horn relay , can't remember what the picture is from!!    its a second generation  though !! save it along time ago , can't even  remember why now  Undecided  scratchchin  , the horn bolts  go in it to welded rectangle nuts on  core support  yesnod
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 07:20:02 AM »

Yes thats the horn relay....same as on a '70

Heres my '69



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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 08:46:33 AM »

I haven't seen any Spartan horns on any Chargers - all Prestolite - but I have seen them on other (predominantly St. Louis built) B-Bodies. But I haven't seen 1/2% of all built. Anyone have (original to the car) Spartans? Just a little slightly off-topic curiosity.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 09:02:25 PM »

My 70 didn't have any horns when I got the car so that's why I have questions.  I got the Spartons off of eBay.  Not sure if they are correct, but figured it didn't matter for my driver.  I just checked my M&H wiring harness and it does not have a relay connection at the horn location, just the two green wires for the horns.  Could the horn relay be under the dash on the 70's?  It is on my E-Body.  I guess NAPA carries the horn relays?
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 09:58:17 PM »

yes, 70s have it on dash frame below the cluster
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 10:11:29 PM »

Thanks Nacho  2thumbs
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 02:18:54 AM »

I haven't seen any Spartan horns on any Chargers - all Prestolite - but I have seen them on other (predominantly St. Louis built) B-Bodies. But I haven't seen 1/2% of all built. Anyone have (original to the car) Spartans? Just a little slightly off-topic curiosity.

So they only used prestolite? That is the horn I have on my 69. Is there a way of figuring out if they were the original ones on my car?
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 06:46:09 AM »

I haven't seen any Spartan horns on any Chargers - all Prestolite - but I have seen them on other (predominantly St. Louis built) B-Bodies. But I haven't seen 1/2% of all built. Anyone have (original to the car) Spartans? Just a little slightly off-topic curiosity.

So they only used prestolite? That is the horn I have on my 69. Is there a way of figuring out if they were the original ones on my car?

horns have a date code on them, but may be buried under paint.

this a 1969 and I am pretty sure they are Prestolites, I remember they were in fact dated correct for this car.


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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 11:42:43 AM »

They sure do look very similar to mine. I will look at what numbers that are one there, get a picture as well. I definately have prestolites, because I can recall it is spelled right out on both of them.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 01:10:26 PM »

Yup - Bill's pic is showing the Prestolite horns.....and the nice correct, properly plated horn bolts as well...
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 07:44:59 PM »

yes, 70s have it on dash frame below the cluster


Right! '68 & '69 the horn relay was located on the rad support. In '70 it was moved under the dash.

Yup - Bill's pic is showing the Prestolite horns.....and the nice correct, properly plated horn bolts as well...

Yep, those are Prestolite horns. The date code will be stamped on the trumpet area, sometimes they are light and can be covered in paint.
Weren't the horn bolts dark gray phosphate as well maxwell?? I've seen them plated that color as well. In Bill's pic they look a little golden?
The bolt type is correct, the washer is serrated to ensure a proper ground.
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Weren't the horn bolts dark gray phosphate as well maxwell?? I've seen them plated that color as well. In Bill's pic they look a little golden?


Bill,
I 'used to' think all horn bolts were dark grey/black phosphate , till someone showed me several originals that were brownish color, so IMO both would be correct

here's better picture of the ones on the car above.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 08:02:58 PM »

best picture I have of the horns


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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 08:43:51 PM »

Thanks for the clarification on the bolts. Yep, mine are dark gray as well.  yesnod
Head marking should be the anchor as pictured.

Date code on the horns is on the short flat side of the trumpet. Just had a matching dated set of '69 horns I let go...
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 09:03:18 PM »

Date pic

39th week of 69


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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 09:36:21 PM »

Date pic

39th week of 69

Thanks. Nicely illustrated! At the momemt I can't recall if I had the small numbers on the side there. Will have too check. Now I know what to look for.  2thumbs
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2011, 10:48:59 AM »

Those horn mounting bolts are available from some of the reproduction parts stores. I got mine from Megaparts.


Right! '68 & '69 the horn relay was located on the rad support. In '70 it was moved under the dash.


So it was in a different location but did the 70 relay look the same as the older relays?
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2011, 12:07:58 PM »

diff bracket but same device itself as far I remember
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