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What does 68 through 70 Dodge Charger RT weigh in at vs. 69 Roadrunner with 440?

Started by 1Bad70Charger, December 22, 2009, 10:41:15 PM

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1Bad70Charger

December 22, 2009, 10:41:15 PM
My last two Mopars were a 1970 Dodge Charger 500 with a 440 in it, great car that I sold fall of 2008, and a 1969 Road Runner, with a 440 in it, that i just bought last month.

I have never done the research on this but I would imagine a stock 68 through 70 Dodge Charger RT, with a 727 tranny weighs around 3800  lbs empty, and my 69 Road Runner, pretty much stock, also with a 727 tranny, problably tips the scales at around 3700 lbs?

I am just curious and does anyone have some real world info on the weight differences between the 2 cars?

Thanks in advance.  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

1Bad70Charger

#1
December 22, 2009, 11:40:50 PM
Let's try this, surely someone knows what a stock, empty, 1969 Dodge Charger RT weighs with a torqueflight tranny in it?  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

skip68

#2
December 22, 2009, 11:49:06 PM
I put my 68 440 727 on the scales with about 1/2 tank of gas and with me out of the car it was 3,680lbs.  
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!

1Bad70Charger

#3
December 23, 2009, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: skip68 on December 22, 2009, 11:49:06 PM
I put my 68 440 727 on the scales with about 1/2 tank of gas and with me out of the car it was 3,680lbs.  

Nice, my educated guess is that my 69 Runner with its 440 and TF 727 will come in about the same weight and she will hit some ACCURATE scales this spring!  :cheers:

Keep the answers coming boys, which car is heavier, or are they about equal in weight?  :2thumbs:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

68X426

#4
December 23, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on December 22, 2009, 10:41:15 PM
info on the weight differences between the 2 cars?

As in: do these tires make my butt look fat? :'(


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1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

1Bad70Charger

#5
December 23, 2009, 02:03:10 AM
Quote from: 68X426 on December 23, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on December 22, 2009, 10:41:15 PM
info on the weight differences between the 2 cars?

As in: do these tires make my butt look fat? :'(

What does your 68 Hemi Road runner weigh in at bro (wit hout you in it)?  ;D  If you have not weighed it, get that bad boy on a scale what are you waiting for?   :slap:  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

68X426

#6
December 23, 2009, 02:18:55 AM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on December 23, 2009, 02:03:10 AM
Quote from: 68X426 on December 23, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on December 22, 2009, 10:41:15 PM
info on the weight differences between the 2 cars?

As in: do these tires make my butt look fat? :'(

What does your 68 Hemi Road runner weigh in at bro (without you in it)?  ;D

I don't know, have never gotten to a set of scales. I read somewhere that it is 4020. Correct? :shruggy: The Hemi is about 3000 pounds of that. :eek2:

I am curious as well, though I don't know what I would do with the info when I find out. I continue to use all the aluminum I can. (Guinness in the can, no bottles!)



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1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

Troy

#7
December 23, 2009, 11:23:20 AM
Don't forget that the RR (probably?) has a bench seat and the Chargers have more trim, upper door pads, bucket seats, and (usually) consoles and vinyl tops. So, with drive trains being equal, the RR will still weigh less.

Troy
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1Bad70Charger

#8
December 23, 2009, 03:37:30 PM
Quote from: Troy on December 23, 2009, 11:23:20 AM
Don't forget that the RR (probably?) has a bench seat and the Chargers have more trim, upper door pads, bucket seats, and (usually) consoles and vinyl tops. So, with drive trains being equal, the RR will still weigh less.

Troy


Good point Troy, and yes my 69 Runner does have a bench seat!  :2thumbs:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

Mike DC

#9
December 24, 2009, 01:42:42 AM

                                 

There's a big obvious difference that nobody has mentioned so far - the RR has about half a foot less bodywork extending out past the rad support on the front end.  And within that extra bodywork on the Chargers, the grille & headlight assys are much heavier than the RR units too.  

1Bad70Charger

#10
December 24, 2009, 02:11:18 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on December 24, 2009, 01:42:42 AM

                               

There's a big obvious difference that nobody has mentioned so far - the RR has about half a foot less bodywork extending out past the rad support on the front end.  And within that extra bodywork on the Chargers, the grille & headlight assys are much heavier than the RR units too.  



Great point.  :2thumbs:  So who has some real world number on what a stock 69 Runner with a 440 engine in would weigh?  Someone must have  some quick access to this info I did a google search but came up empty!  :brickwall:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

skip68

#11
December 24, 2009, 02:26:27 AM
A 1969 Plymouth HEMI 4sp Road runner was 3,940lbs.   A 69 RR  A12, 440 w/4spd was 3,435lbs   That's the best I can do for you....    :cheers:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!

1Bad70Charger

#12
December 24, 2009, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: skip68 on December 24, 2009, 02:26:27 AM
A 1969 Plymouth HEMI 4sp Road runner was 3,940lbs.   A 69 RR  A12, 440 w/4spd was 3,435lbs   That's the best I can do for you....    :cheers:


That's great info bro, thanks!  :cheers:  Wow, the Hemi was over 500 lbs more than the 69 A12 Roadrunner 6 pack car that's amazing.  Well at least my 69 Roadrunner has the complete 6 pack look with the same fiberglass lift off hoo and plain black steel wheels, so maybe she will only come in at around 3600 lbs?  :coolgleamA:
Time shall tell, until then we can only bench race our cars for those who have wonferful winter conditions to contend with until April!    :brickwall:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

skip68

#13
December 24, 2009, 12:14:22 PM
Keep in mind some of the extra pounds on the HEMI car is bigger axle, springs ect.   :2thumbs:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!

TylerCharger69

#14
December 24, 2009, 08:26:51 PM
Mine was 3750 with A/C, power windows, and a 383 with a 727 TF.  According to the title...its a base model 69 Charger if that is of any help.

Scaregrabber

#15
December 27, 2009, 03:46:00 PM
You would have to weigh the two cars on the same scale. I see weights posted all the time that are all over the place. I think the Charger has to be 100-200lbs heavier than a Road Runner. Extra body length, plusher interior, hideway headlights etc.

Sheldon

hemigeno

#16
December 28, 2009, 12:43:49 PM
In the 1969 (Dodge) Dealer Data Book, there is some comparative information from Chrysler that should be close to what you're looking for:

Shipping Weight, lbs. (Approximate, not for licensing)

Charger (base model) 3,305
Charger R/T 3,575
Coronet Super Bee  3,396 (Coupe)
Coronet Super Bee  3,381 (Hardtop)


Looks like maybe 200lbs. difference between the Charger R/T and a SuperBee, although it doesn't say how the R/T was equipped... probably 440/727, but who knows.  I don't have the Plymouth Data Book otherwise I'd post the RoadRunner's published shipping weight.

:cheers:

Nacho-RT74

#17
December 28, 2009, 01:28:44 PM
Doesn't the Hammtramck website carries all those specs on seller handbooks ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

hemigeno

#18
December 28, 2009, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 28, 2009, 01:28:44 PM
Doesn't the Hammtramck website carries all those specs on seller handbooks ?

Good point... just checked, and here are the '69 Plymouth RR approximate shipping weights:

Belvedere RoadRunner  3,390 (Coupe)
Belvedere RoadRunner  3,405 (Hardtop)


About the same as the SuperBee shipping weights.  Now, to answer your specific question we would need to know how much more a 440 weighs vs. a 383.   :shruggy:  Any weight difference (increase) in the 440 over the 383 would reduce the 200+/- advantage the RR has over the Charger R/T.

1Bad70Charger

#19
December 29, 2009, 02:08:29 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on December 28, 2009, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 28, 2009, 01:28:44 PM
Doesn't the Hammtramck website carries all those specs on seller handbooks ?

Good point... just checked, and here are the '69 Plymouth RR approximate shipping weights:

Belvedere RoadRunner  3,390 (Coupe)
Belvedere RoadRunner  3,405 (Hardtop)


About the same as the SuperBee shipping weights.  Now, to answer your specific question we would need to know how much more a 440 weighs vs. a 383.   :shruggy:  Any weight difference (increase) in the 440 over the 383 would reduce the 200+/- advantage the RR has over the Charger R/T.



GREAT INFO GUYS thank you, and i will post up my weight when I get her on the truck scales this late winter early spring!
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

Nacho-RT74

#20
December 29, 2009, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on December 29, 2009, 02:08:29 AM

GREAT INFO GUYS thank you, and i will post up my weight when I get her on the truck scales this late winter early spring!

I preffer your car weight, doesn't really care your weight :lol:
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

TylerCharger69

#21
December 30, 2009, 09:28:19 PM
I think it all depends on the option package the particular car came with.....

69rtse4spd

#22
September 23, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
Just had the 70 out today & ran by the stone quarry. On the scale she weighted 3780 lbs. with out my fat ass in it. The car is a base 70 XH with 446 alum. heads, water pump, TTI. headers, 727, 8.75, bucket seats, ac. & no console. Good starting point once I start to change things out will see what she weighs then. 
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