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Started by 1958300, December 10, 2005, 05:23:14 PM

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1958300

I have a 1972 charger 440 rallye that came with the N96 hood from the factory, but it was missing when I bought the car. I know that the regular hoods are slightly different between the 1972 and the 1971 chargers. The 1971 hoods have louvers all the way across the rear of the hood, while the 1972 chargers have a small plain space with no louvers about 2” wide between the louvers. I am really confused because I have seen some 1971 chargers with the space between the louvers, and I have seen some 1972 chargers that have louvers all the way across. My question is this. Does anyone out there have a 1972 charger with the original N96 hood, and do the louvers go all the way across or is there a space in the middle of the louvers? I bought a hood that was supposed to be for a 1972, but it has the louvers all the way across. I would appreciate a response, since I am trying to get my car right. It is one of 28 1972 440 rallye automatic coupes built, and is all numbers matching. Thanks for your help.

Phillip
pwlynn@att.net
1972 Charger Rallye coupe auto 440 N96, GY9 (1 of 28)
1990 Dakota convertible

694spdRT

We were discussing this at the last Charger Registry meet and the consensus was the louver with the spacing in the middle is correct for 1972. Only the '71 model had the louver all the way across.

Since I was not around the assembly plants I would never say that some early '72s didn't have louvers all the way across or some '71's didn't have the spacing.

The reason the discussion came up was my dad's '71 R/T hit a deer when it was fairly new and a NOS '72 hood was installed along with a NOS '72 bumper(has the jack notches). So it has the spacing. 

1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Daytona R/T SE

I have a 71 R/T Louvered hood-it has the spacing in the middle... ???

1958300

694spdrt, was the replacement hood on your dad's r/t an air grabber hood? i don't remember ever seeing an air grabber with the space between the louvers
pwlynn@att.net
1972 Charger Rallye coupe auto 440 N96, GY9 (1 of 28)
1990 Dakota convertible

694spdRT

Quote from: 1958300 on December 10, 2005, 10:39:43 PM
694spdrt, was the replacement hood on your dad's r/t an air grabber hood? i don't remember ever seeing an air grabber with the space between the louvers

Yes it is...here is a picture of it. I cannot remember who was all in the conversation about the louvers but, I do remember Galen was involved.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

It seems there is more "72" hoods with the center cut out to the air ram or R/T-superbees inserts that we think

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nupe

Seems to be a hit or miss thing on the vents.  Maybe due to supply and demand or just typical Chrysler.   ???

For what it is worth the hood on my R/T and the Ramcharger hood I have for it have the 71 style vents.  And the N96 71 Bee I sold with the original hood had the 71 style.

Nacho, that 71 looks killer with the white decals!   :yesnod:  Those are custom because they only came in black, right?

Jeremy


'79 Lil'Red Express.

Nacho-RT74

I don't know, I only have seen 71 R/Ts with black stripes also here in Venezuela but...


but would be more killer with white top and interior... similar to my car but dark blue instead black.

THE OREO CHARGER as I read on an erlier topic LOL ( or police Charger )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

MOPARHOUND!

The understanding I have is the spacing on the hoods was a mid to late 71 model year change, that then carried on through the 72 model year.

Mine was built in February 1971 (standard R/T hood), and has the spacing.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

THE CHARGER PUNK

i thought all 72 rallye chargers just had bulge hoods no louvers or ramcharger scoops? like this one-MATT

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: MOPARHOUND! on December 11, 2005, 02:36:52 PM
The understanding I have is the spacing on the hoods was a mid to late 71 model year change, that then carried on through the 72 model year.

Mine was built in February 1971 (standard R/T hood), and has the spacing.

maybe the same change as the buckets seats with different backs since mid 71



Quote from: F8 69 CHARGER PUNK on December 11, 2005, 04:55:07 PM
i thought all 72 rallye chargers just had bulge hoods no louvers or ramcharger scoops? like this one-MATT

We also thought that, but aparently...

It looks that there is a lot of common characteristics on every year that are not a rule. suposselly 150 miles speedos where last year on 71 and there is a lot of 72s and even 73s with 150 speedos from fact.

Also labeled wiper and headlights switchs with icons on clusters beside the word that was an international rule since 73 but I have seen 74s with not icon labeleds clusters.

Maybe was just using the remaining stock on assembly plants on mostly cases.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

73rallye440magnum

Nacho, I think 150 speedo came with the rallye package in 73.
Current- 70 Charger XH29G Y3, F8, F8

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8

TruckDriver

Quote from: 73rallye440magnum on December 11, 2005, 06:43:10 PM
Nacho, I think 150 speedo came with the rallye package in 73.

You are right. '74 only came with 120 speedos.

Quote from: Nupe on December 11, 2005, 01:51:26 PM
Nacho, that 71 looks killer with the white decals!     :yesnod:   Those are custom because they only came in black, right?

Those are custom decals. Says so in the ad. That car is currently on ebay. I don't like the white stripes myself. Red would of looked a lot better I think.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Nupe

QuoteAlso labeled wiper and headlights switchs with icons on clusters beside the word that was an international rule since 73 but I have seen 74s with not icon labeleds clusters.

Maybe was just using the remaining stock on assembly plants on mostly cases.

I agree with you Nacho.   Didn't notice this until I pulled a dash and got it home.   Probably didn't really matter, but I figured I might as well grab the correct one at the yard while my car was apart.   :P   There were quite a few 3rd gens and the 71's all had no labels while the 72 up bezels were about 50 / 50 for the labels.


'79 Lil'Red Express.

2fast4u


   Here is one of those elusive/rare '72 Charger Rallye 440 6pak,Ramair,4spd bad boys!!!
DODGE CHARGER--Fuel for Living!

Bandit72

Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

71383bee

I got the gap too and my car is an early build date.   The hood could be from a later car though since i bought the car as a project car.

71 - FC7 383 Super Bee

General_01

Quote from: 694spdRT on December 11, 2005, 02:19:19 AM
Quote from: 1958300 on December 10, 2005, 10:39:43 PM
694spdrt, was the replacement hood on your dad's r/t an air grabber hood? i don't remember ever seeing an air grabber with the space between the louvers

Yes it is...here is a picture of it. I cannot remember who was all in the conversation about the louvers but, I do remember Galen was involved.

I remember that car. Cool car. I drove the General that is in the background. Wish I had my original hood on my '71 Bee. I have a regular bulge hood with no louvers and the cowl vents all the way across. :(
1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
496 stroker
4-speed

Nupe

QuoteHere is one of those elusive/rare '72 Charger Rallye 440 6pak,Ramair,4spd bad boys!!!

WOAH!!!    :drool5: O0   That is gorgeous.   Talk about some rare iron!


'79 Lil'Red Express.

1958300

2fast4u:
That 6-pack charger is stunning. At first look, I thought it might be black, but the underhood pictures look more like dark gold metallic (GY9). Coumpter pictures don't always show an accurate color, so can you tell me if the car really is GY9? My charger was GY9, and I have not seen a picture of any other Rallye that color. I have been trying to decide if I want to repaint the original color, and based on the pictures you posted, the answer is definitely YES!!!
pwlynn@att.net
1972 Charger Rallye coupe auto 440 N96, GY9 (1 of 28)
1990 Dakota convertible

1958300

2fast4u:
In keeping with the original question about rear louvers on the hood, it looks like the 6-pack car has continuous louvers without the center gap. Can you tell the build date and confirm that the louvers are continuous?
pwlynn@att.net
1972 Charger Rallye coupe auto 440 N96, GY9 (1 of 28)
1990 Dakota convertible

TruckDriver

That car look more dark green to me :-\
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

1972Rallye

Here is a pic of my 1972 Charger hood (original sheet metal - build date 6-2-72)...

That six pack car is freakin' awesome! :drool5:

MOPARHOUND!

From what I recall, the GY9 72 had the Six Pack added, and is not a real V code.   It was in one of the Mopar mags a few years back.   Sad to see the dash has the crack in it like so many 3rd gen's do.

The color shows up well on my monitor in the pic showing the radiator support and hood latch assembly.   It looks like a mix of dark green and brown, how that is Dark Gold is beyond me.   Just my opinion, but it reminds me of a utilty type color, kind of like "work bench gray" or "UPS brown".  Others' opinions may vary.   :Twocents:
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."