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Question Regarding the Price of a 1969 Dodge Charger

Started by knightprowl, September 18, 2014, 04:32:59 PM

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twodko

A $30k budget is a healthy start.
FYI 2nd gen Chargers have torsion bar front suspension and leaf springs in the back.
As far as I know the antennas are all one piece masts. If it's an AC car it will have
the center dash vents you mentioned.
Beyond these couple observations, you simply need to search, hunt and look at
all possible vehicles that fit your criteria. Sounds like you're looking for an R/T.

Don't get frustrated and be patient in your search. Start by looking at the "cars for sale"
section here. Good luck.
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!


Ghoste

The correct antenna for a 69 is the telescoping mast and 30k will get you a very nice car.


twodko

Is that right Ghoste? I wonder why my 69 has a single mast, it's an original car?
Learn something new every visit here.
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!


Ghoste

Are you the original owner twodko?  Mopar didn't go to the one piece mast until the 70's (forget the exact year but it was early), so I'm curious now.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Ghoste on September 19, 2014, 06:20:23 AM
Are you the original owner twodko?  Mopar didn't go to the one piece mast until the 70's (forget the exact year but it was early), so I'm curious now.

'72
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69CoronetRT

To the OP...some of what you are looking for is not the proper combination. e.g. Carter carb on an A/C car.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.


twodko

Good morning Ghoste,

I bought my car from the original owner. It was a
late build 1969 R/T so perhaps that's why it received
a one piece mast.  :shruggy:
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

stripedelete

Quote from: twodko on September 19, 2014, 12:21:00 PM
Good morning Ghoste,

I bought my car from the original owner. It was a
late build 1969 R/T so perhaps that's why it received
a one piece mast.  :shruggy:

Could be.  I have evidence both way.

My R/T has a 7/4/69 build date and had a solid mast. 

My 318 69 was much earlier with a telescoping antenna. 
But in the same breath, a good breeze and a tarp snapped the telescoping antenna off the 318 car pretty effortlessly. 

Therefore, solid on 69's could be replacement.


ACUDANUT

Hmmm, I think they all had "intake manifolds and exhaust manifold's"  :scratchchin:


Ghoste

Quote from: stripedelete on September 19, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: twodko on September 19, 2014, 12:21:00 PM
Good morning Ghoste,

I bought my car from the original owner. It was a
late build 1969 R/T so perhaps that's why it received
a one piece mast.  :shruggy:

Could be.  I have evidence both way.

My R/T has a 7/4/69 build date and had a solid mast. 

My 318 69 was much earlier with a telescoping antenna. 
But in the same breath, a good breeze and a tarp snapped the telescoping antenna off the 318 car pretty effortlessly. 

Therefore, solid on 69's could be replacement.

I believe replacement.  It was also popular at one time for kids to snap antennas.  Without better evidence I'm going with what 69CoronetRT posted. 


69CoronetRT

Quote from: knightprowl on September 19, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
I thought this was my thread about prices of a 1969 dodge charger .....Thank you and Peace.

I would encourage you to do some more homework on your list. Some of the things you are looking for are incompatible or illogical with package availability and requirements on an ordered car. To obtain your list would require some very specific, personalized modifications and upgrades to a stock car. This is not to say what you are looking for would not be cool or unobtainable, just that these specific requirements would require someone making specific detailed modifications that, by coincidence, match your requirements. It is highly doubtful the car you describe exists without you personalizing and modifying a car with the core options.

Given that.....discussion on availability of antennas is a more finite and can be resolved as opposed to discussion on the price of a car that probably couldn't or doesn't exist.

Your goal and desire is worthy and achievable but you may need to modify or manage your expectations as to the specifics of what you think you can find in an existing car.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Ghoste

Interesting and very good point.  I had a specific list and it greatly reduced my chances of finding the car I wanted that I ended up in a 67 as a "temporary" car for many years while I searched.  I did finally do just what you said, I have the core vehicle and will add the specifics to make it mine.




Dreamcar

Most of what's in your want list will come with a stock 383 vinyl top Charger with A/C. I seriously think you'd be looking for a needle in hay stack if you're specifically looking for a factory T3, 383-2 barrel, vinyl top, with AC. Not impossible, but could take a few years to find, and you may never find it.

Remember, 383 engines and big-block 727 transmissions are relatively easy to find; vinyl top trim can be added to a car that doesn't have a factory top (LEE1 had the chrome trim I think); A/C can be added; exterior and interior colors can be changed. The correct 14' Vectors may be a little difficult though, 15s are more common and being reproduced.  The correct chrome rocker mouldings that LEE1 had are also a little difficult to find.

As long as you have the factory big-block suspension, it's still stock and rebuild kits are readily available.  Even if you go from small block to big block suspension (different spring rates), it's not a big deal. Going from factory disc brakes to drum would be difficult to justify, but you may not get 14" Vectors to fit with disc brakes up front. 

So, my suggestion is to find the nicest non-RT Charger you can, and worry about colors and options later. In other words, if you find a rust free 318, don't pass it up! Even a car that has already been turned into a GL could be a good start because the body work would be done (hopefully done properly).

Alternatively, find a car that needs resto, and use your budget to build it ground up like Lee1. However, you will have to do some work yourself to keep $$$ under control. A resto gets expensive, very quickly. 

Good luck.
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)


Dreamcar

Your updated list equates to a mostly stock 383 Charger. Theres nothing special there. All those parts are a available and will fit any 69 Charger, but some parts are more difficult to find than others. A nice rust free example will be around 25-30k, but it still may not have all the colors and options you want.

Every Charger is going up in price, regardless of condition. So the longer you wait, the more the cost goes up. Many 383 cars will likely no longer be numbers matching. If the car survived at all, many would drop in a  440 if the original engine was done.

Bodywork can easily be the most expensive part, so find the nicest one and spend the money saved on those parts you are missing.

Mine is a numbers matching 383 with AC and vinyl top and fender tag.. Here's what just under 10 k can get you:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,110598.0.html


Good luck in your search.

"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)


Dreamcar

LEE1 was 383, so I highly doubt it had a single exhaust
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)



Dreamcar

Quote from: knightprowl on September 23, 2014, 09:30:54 PM
Well I updated my list again. Pretty much I will have to take what I can find. Since I want a general lee replica then I will probably take your advice and just buy one no matter what era of general lee it is. Hopefully I will get a Georgia era so not much would have to change but I would take a early California or late California era general lee.

But as we both said it needs to be solid and without any major cosmetic issues and no mechanical or electrical issues. Truth be told as long as it has no mechanical or electrical issues I will probably buy any general lee or regular 1969 dodge charger because I can change stuff when I want and have the money to. But mainly I just want a general lee or a regular 1969 dodge charger.

Its my dream car. And Even if it has some cosmetic issues I don't care. Just as long as its a solid daily driver with no mechanical or electrical issues or any rusted or rotted out areas and as little surface or undercarriage rust as possible with no major cosmetic issues on the exterior or the interior then I really don't care. So your right I need to focus on getting the car first then worry about making it into LEE 1 or whatever.

So thanks for that reminder man. I have been so focused on making a LEE 1 list I lost sight of why I am really here. So thanks for the wake up call so to speak. I can finish the list anytime. But getting what I want in a car for my budget wont always be here. So getting the money and getting the car will be my main priority from now on. I will still work on my list but I need to focus more on the money and the car then the list.

Thank you and Peace


You're welcome. :cheers: Good luck in the search!
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

Dreamcar

I didn't see it on your list, but don't forget that LEE1 had the optional rocker panel moldings. You can see it on the passenger side of my car. It was the only Lee to have them after the GL uniform got put on.
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)