What’s wrong with you guys?

[Nacho-RT74]

Really? An ICE agent killed a immigrant woman shooting straight her head without a reason?

Have you seen the video? NO ICE AGENT was in danger or under menace to need to shoot to the woman. ¡¡¡NO MATTER IF ILEGAL OR NOT!!! (which I think not, driving that SUV)

Do you shoot first and ask later? STILL IN FRONT OF AN UNARMED PERSON?

Now want to own Greenland no matter if with a military action? Just like Putin in Ukraine!

Is really Putin the only crazy "leader" in the world?

I have several friends who run from Maduro's dictatorship who arrived to USA and got TPS protection and now they are hidden and scared to be captured by ICE AND BEING DEPORTED BACK TO Venezuela still on dictadure like a prisioner? Is this justice or humanity?

Damn guys! And you thought we were crazy when "we" vote for Chávez.

SHIT!!! Crazy guys are on both wings!

This is not about republican/democrat debate or left or right wings... this is about a CRAZY GUY leading the power.

Really, I don't think you have any idea about the REAL BAD IMAGE USA is getting EVEN IN EUROPE thanks to your  megalomaniac, selfish, narcissist president. THAT GUY DOESN'T KNOW/CARE about legality.

JUST LIKE HITTLER!!!!

I think you are GREATER than that.

Please, think on what is really happening in the world when voting this year to the congress.

Or even better... get an impeachment before the elections this year againts the Oompa Loompa guy you have at the White House as soon as possible!

Sorry for this "political" thread, I know will be deleted and hoping I won't be banned, but this woman being killed by ICE authorities FOR NO REASON really got me mad and had to release my angriness!! And I couldn't stand the screams he shout out to Zelensky the first time they met at the White House... WITHOUT ANY RESPECT TO ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. LIKE IF HE WAS GUILTY ABOUT THE  UKRANIAN WAR!!!

USA was built by Inmigrants! EVEN TRUMP'S RELATED are/were inmigrants! MARCO RUBIO'S PARENTS WERE ILEGALS CUBANS!!!!

GOD... THE WORLD IS MORE THAN THE COUNTY YOU LIVE. A bad decision coming from the wrong guy with power can kill hundreds of ppl!!!

Guys, this is wrong... this is totally wrong!!!

This post is just trying to get you in reflect

WAKE UP!!,

[b5blue]

I agree!

[Nacho-RT74]

Do you know what it means this uniform and what it was one of their missions? And what it becomed!




Maybe ICE agents will uncover their faces soon and will proudly wear this new look.

( for GOD sake!)

[Mopar Nut]

The videos I saw showed the woman tried to run the ICE agent over.

[Nacho-RT74]

My friend, sorry but NO! FALSE...

FIRTS! ONE OF THE AGENTS TRIED TO OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT ANY REASON OR PERMISSION OR THE RIGHT TO DO IT. HE JUST PROCEED WITH VIOLENCE TRYING TO OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT ANY PREVIOUS VIOLENCE BY THE VICTIM.

SECOND! IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT WHEELS, THEY WERE TURNED COMPLETELLY TO THE RIGHT TO SWAY THE OTHER AGENT.. WASN'T EVEN. ON THE LINE THE SUV WAS GOING! SHE WAS SIMPLY SCARED AND CLEARLY TRYED TO SWAY HIM. THIS IS SO TRUE THAT EVEN AFTER BEING SHOT, THE SUV KEPT THE LINE OUT OF THE AGENT. IF SHE WAS TO GRIND THE ICE AGENT, SHE COULD GO STRAIGHT TO HIM, NOT TURNING TO THE SIDE

THIRD! IF THERE IS SOME REAL LEGALITY ON THIS, WHY MOST OF THE ICE AGENT PROCEED WITH COVERED FACES? LIKE SEARCHING FOR TERRORIST!

This is one of the definitions of what FASCISM is. Something that USA battled on the WWII (still living with racism behavior inside USA... ironically)

There is NO EXCUSE to this behavior!

[Mopar Nut]

His body camera showed the car was coming for him.

[Nacho-RT74]

She allways tried to sway him... never tried to grind him. And he SHOT being out of the line of the SUV was going to. And if wasn't enough the first shot, but the next shot was already with gun throught the window...

He was on the left CORNER of the SUV.

Come oooon...

[Mopar Nut]

It's sad all around, if she only would've obey their orders.

[Nacho-RT74]

Better if authorities search for CRIMINALS no matter if inmigrants or not, than simply inmigrants no matter if criminals or not.

Do you know what Innocence presumption is? Is one of the legal and human rights we all have (at least into a democratic world)

Do I have to remind again what it is the meaning of that brown uniform I posted? And in what it became?

Well, that's is what ICE is making...

And how HITTLER began the WWII ?  Austria, Czechoslovakia... Then Poland and BOOM

Well... Venezuela (he doesn't care the democracy there... already confessed... so I'm not inventing anything), Greenland...

What Putin has been made with their oppositors for years? Now Ukrainia!

Next... Xi JinPing... and Taiwan?

Do we REALLY know what is happening?

[Mopar Nut]

If she's an illegal, she broke the law, she's a criminal. Why try to invade the police if you didn't do nothing wrong or innocent.

[Nacho-RT74]

Is not the same an offender than a criminal! There are legal differences and different actions or sanctions. An ilegal inmigrant can be an offender, delinquent, but not necessarily a criminal.

You can break the law and get administrative sanctions, but no penal actions.

I repeat... remember the brown uniform I posted.

This is not just about this woman, but what ICE in general is doing.

[Nacho-RT74]

"Renee Good, the 37-year-old woman who was killed today, described herself on social media as a "poet and writer and wife and mom" originally from Colorado but "experiencing Minnesota."

NOW WHAT?

Not even an Inmigrant! Unless you consider inmigrants in Minnesota being from Colorado.

4th victim since the "brown shirts" began their operations.

[Mopar Nut]

A legal citizen of the United States should know better, you asked to get out of your vehicle by a federal agent, you obey. Why was she trying to run agent over, she wasn't guilty, she should've just obeyed.

[Kern Dog]

Nacho, you're fucked up on this one. Take a step back and take a Midol or something.
If you're stupid enough to BLOCK a road, attempting to stop a law enforcement officer from doing his job, a legal and valid job by the way....Then as a stupid person, you have to accept what happens as a result.
Videos have shown that she blocked a road, refused to move, refused to exit the vehicle, then tried to drive away with an officer in her path.
If any fucker tries to run me over, I'll shoot them too if I had a gun.
Oh, and since you mention it....the reason the agents have their faces covered is to protect their identities from being discovered by ILLEGAL INVADERS AND CARTELS that could/will cause harm to the officer or any of their family members. This is a real thing.
You know what could have prevented this?
Stay the fuck in your own country or emigrate legally. It really is that simple. We wouldn't have needed the increase in enforcement if not for the flood of people from the south.
It isn't our responsibility to save all the losers from shithole countries. We have enough parasites draining the system here, we sure don't need to import more poverty.
I'll tell you what....For every "Immigrant" that wants to enter, we send you 1 or 2 fat, single blue haired "women" that seem to show up in great numbers here protesting against lawful, legitimate actions.
Oh, to answer your question in the title of this topic:
There is nothing wrong with us. We are rightfully defending our country to make it better for actual American citizens. I think that all countries should.

[Mopar Nut]

Well said Greg, if Venezuelans would've defended Venezuela, like we do our country, it wouldn't have been under drug cartels and narcotrafficking. We love our country so much, we don't move to other countries like Spain to hide. If our country is so bad, why did we have to help Venezuela?

[Kern Dog]

Seen this one yet?

https://x.com/0hour1/status/2008987384881594682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2008987384881594682%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

[Mopar Nut]

No, I haven't, thanks for posting. I like how they slowed it down, she's guilty as heck.

[timmycharger]

I personally do not believe deadly force was needed here, I saw the video on multiple angles, there are other ways to de escalate. The woman killed was also a moron, whether you agree with ICE or not, they are Federal agents and when they repeatedly tell you to stop or get out and you ignore it, that is on you.

Nacho, give it a rest with the Nazi Bullshit, you are coming across as an ass.  I am not a fan of the President as a person but comparing him to Hitler is disrespectful and irresponsible. Watch some old footage of the camps and what those people went through, maybe talk to family of survivors and educate yourself on the difference.

Both my parents came to the US legally and didn't hop over a fence or sneak in from a boat somewhere, why is it that hard to understand for some people that there is a process to follow to be a US citizen?

Take a deep breath and take a break from social media is my advice. 

[b5blue]

I don't agree with calling Nacho that. There is an overwhelming wave of trying to force conformity these days. I've watched hours of police shows with nut jobs running amok, meth heads stealing cars and going 100mph in neighborhoods and nobody gets shot.     

[timmycharger]

I don't agree with calling Nacho that. There is an overwhelming wave of trying to force conformity these days. I've watched hours of police shows with nut jobs running amok, meth heads stealing cars and going 100mph in neighborhoods and nobody gets shot.     

So you are cool with Trump being compared to Hitler and ICE being Nazis? Again, I don't agree with the methods or like the man but calling everything a Nazi waters down the term and takes away from the atrocious acts they committed years ago.   

[John_Kunkel]

THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION.

[timmycharger]

THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION.

Yes John, I know. I thought this place was somewhere we could go to avoid the noise and craziness but nope, we get an unhinged rant basically calling out Americans. I'm guilty, I took the bait. 

[Kern Dog]

THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION.

Don't like it? Stay the fuck out. Nobody forced you to click on any thread here.
Only an asshole sees shit, intentionally steps in it then yells that shit does not belong on the sidewalk.

[Nacho-RT74]

Well said Greg, if Venezuelans would've defended Venezuela, like we do our country, it wouldn't have been under drug cartels and narcotrafficking. We love our country so much, we don't move to other countries like Spain to hide. If our country is so bad, why did we have to help Venezuela?

Oooooh God... you have no idea... We have being battling against dictatorship since 24 years ago. Personally I have been shot twice on a couple of protests but fortunately they missed. You have no idea about how many deaths we have got in Venezuela since 2002

This is 17 YO kid shot with a gas Bomb at barelly 5 or 8 meters in 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomar_Lander

Here is his tórax pic

https://i.postimg.cc/yNx8TpdQ/IMG_5090.jpg

Won't insert the image, but just post the link to the image I saved before being removed from the web

Here is a former inteligence police agent who also battled against dictatorship, who was killed along with some others

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93scar_Alberto_P%C3%A9rez

Just make a search about Venezuelan protest since 2002. Maybe a thousand of ppl has being killed on straight protest actions, plus more after being hunt, thousands in jail and some other thousands tortured. This is without talk about the around 8 millions of ppl exodus from Vzla.

Everything began here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llaguno_Overpass_events

Riots of ppl going to the government palace to demand Chavez to quit

https://x.com/TAMARA_SUJU/status/1778554834523689391

And their ppl gave us the welcome with shots from armed civilians ( government militias called on those days "círculos bolivarianos" ) and government snipers

https://caleidohumano.org/20-anos-del-11-de-abril-de-2002-las-cicatrices-de-puente-llaguno-siguen-abiertas-en-la-memoria-de-los-venezolanos/

Fortunatelly the city mayor on those days was on the opposition and the local police was on our side... yet. But wasn't enough to save the ppl.


(BTW I haven't hidden in Spain, I have allways had in my plans live here since I was a kid)

After your post, noticed many of you are probably not aware about what really happens around the world.

[Nacho-RT74]

THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION.

Sorry John, I know, but this is not about left or right political issues. This is about Human Rights no matter the wing.

I'm hearing vicepresident Vance speech at this moment and is an EXACT copy (honestly! Trust me! an EXACT copy) of the Venezuelan government versions offering excuses about every one of the killed on Venezuelan protests by the government authorities. And we are talking about two diff political wings.

This problem is becoming in something out of control if you ask me.

I won't post anymore on this thread. I consider each one as a friend still with diff ideas. But I had to post mine about the situation and get a warning based on history!