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« on: January 22, 2007, 11:16:36 PM »

574 Horsepower/583 Ft/lbs Torque,  pump gas , 750 cfm carb, Torker 383 Intake, "all in" by 5700 rpm.

Will scan, and get the actual dyno sheets up later. This was a relatively inexpensive engine to build, and easy.  Whats better, is the Torque curve starts @ 3500 rpm at 542.3 Ft/lbs, and stays above 500 ft/lbs through 53-5400 rpm ? I forget already !
Enough to motivate ANY heavy "B" body.

Check it out, I'll get more photos and details up later.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,23089.0.html
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 11:39:38 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 07:40:10 AM »

Dunno, what you'd spend, you'd have to talk to your builder 'bout that one, I'm sure he'd give you an estimate.

My Customer supplied some used EDDY heads, and a Torker 383 Intake, Thats it, That's ALL.

I supplied the rest, block, crank, Rods, Machining & balancing, etc.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 10:12:47 AM »

I guess I should also get a "parts list" together, as to what was used in this engine ?

As well as the dyno sheets ?

Would this be helpful  ?

You fellas can price your own parts from where-ever, Machining, Porting & Balancing estimates from "your guys".
I've been posting photos of the Short Block, Crank, Heads etc., as a guide already.
Go here for a look if interested further;

451 short block prep used

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,22274.0.html

or here, for the 451 EDDY head prep used

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,21828.0.html
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 06:32:11 PM »

Gotta love them 451s, i had about 3500.00 in mine using stock 906s, according to the calculators, i was making around 530 FWHP, ran a best of 10.91 at 3100 lbs., 9.73 comp. XE284H, 750dp, bone stock 906s, shifting at 5800  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 09:44:40 PM »

what cam is in that motor? it sure runs good!
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 11:05:21 AM »

The Camshaft is our own "custom grind" from Comp. Cams. It is a Flat Tappet, solid lifter.

 It is NOT proprietary, just a matching of lobe profiles from the existing Comp. databases, based upon our experience, building Mopar Race Engines over the last few decades.

It is NOT a fast ramp .904" lifter Diameter, and, It is EASY on springs and parts, as this is a "street" engine designed to live a long time.

I will supply the specs when I get time to scan, and post the dyno sheets etc.

It costs the SAME money to have a Cam ground, as buying one "off the shelf", the ONLY difference is the few dollars more freight, and about 2-3 week wait.
ANYBODY tells you different, WALK AWAY !

Bob out.

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 12:48:36 PM »


It costs the SAME money to have a Cam ground, as buying one "off the shelf", the ONLY difference is the few dollars more freight, and about 2-3 week wait.
ANYBODY tells you different, WALK AWAY !

Bob out.




Yep, custom is the only way to go, especially when you have a dyno proven combo and years of experience like Bob has.  icon_smile_big

 Ok Bob, quit slacking  nana haha and post those flow numbers, cam profile and dyno sheets !  scope



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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 05:13:31 PM »

I'm working on it, will try for tomorrow.

Ron, check your pm and get back at me.

I bought a scanner. ANYBODY got a "quick lesson" I can reference on how to post, after I scan ? Posting from scanning ?

Other than that, I'll take photos and post, I got "that" figured out !  LOL !

Take picture
pictures in 'puter
Puter to host
Host attach to post.

Geez, I should have stayed in school !

Bob out.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2007, 06:55:49 AM »

Bob

you have a PM.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2007, 09:42:51 AM »

as you know I'm thinking on make that stroke with JUST stock parts including torque converter ( 452 heads, 400 rods, stock camshaft, etc... ) trying to get an iron casted crank to keep same balancing and stuff around... that would be IF I find a crank locally. Of course only buying non stock the pistons. I want a complete sleeper. Maybe just mill down a little bit the heads and installing metalick gasket. Can I get something similar on HP and torque, and completelly streetable ?

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2007, 11:21:32 AM »

as you know I'm thinking on make that stroke with JUST stock parts including torque converter ( 452 heads, 400 rods, stock camshaft, etc... ) trying to get an iron casted crank to keep same balancing and stuff around... that would be IF I find a crank locally. Of course only buying non stock the pistons. I want a complete sleeper. Maybe just mill down a little bit the heads and installing metalick gasket. Can I get something similar on HP and torque, and completelly streetable ?



Nacho, i would use the 440 rods, this way you have a lighter piston, for the extra, you might as well get some good after market ones from 440source or Muscle Motors, i used a 69 crank & rods from a 440 for my 451 with the ross F/Ts, it didn't take much to balance out, but i got these parts on a trade, so i wasn't out much (just an intake) i spent about 250.00 to have the crank done (counterweights cut down & turned 10/10) for the money, you just can't beat the stroker kit, 1199.00 & you get crank, rods & pistons.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2007, 12:47:58 PM »

I have beeing searching a 440 crank for years and didn't find it... so I have to get it first. I have found complete 440 engines from friends, but I don't want to part out those.

if you think I'll spend $1200... think on international shipping Wink and I'll get double of that Tongue. plus machine job
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 01:46:29 PM »

Ignacio

Just wait til your friend visits Connecticut again and have the kit delivered there and then your friend can bring it back.

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