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Title: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 10, 2010, 09:57:09 PM
The day is coming soon when I finally get my very own Dodge Charger 1969 R/T 440cid + 727 to here to Finland  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:

I´ve been waiting this baby too damn long, over 3 months, but now estimated arrival time to cargo ship that contains my mean red baby comes to Finland next week!!  :cheers: Hopefully that estimated arrival time is right, I´m too excited to wait it anymore  :popcrn:

And I really hope that this car is everything what is promised and especially what I´ve seen in pictures and what I´ve paid for  :drool5:

I feel myself like a child when christmas is coming  :rofl:

Here is the last picture of it that I got. It´s taken in Wisconsin just before it got transferred to haven  :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: THE CHARGER PUNK on March 10, 2010, 10:16:09 PM
Are those ''HEMI'' emblems on the door? :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 10, 2010, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: THE CHARGER PUNK on March 10, 2010, 10:16:09 PM
Are those ''HEMI'' emblems on the door? :scratchchin:

Yep, I noticed them too in some point but this is NOT Hemi car or even original R/T  :'( This is actually XP code Charger, so it came from factory with 318cid engine. It´s builded to R/T clone and engine and transmission is swapped to 440cid + 727  :cheers: I really don´t know why there is those Hemi emblems in doors  :rotz: There is used some Hemi Charger´s parts but still I don´t understand those emblems  :shruggy:

But I don´t mind, I just want it home as soon as possible  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: mikesbbody on March 10, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
Nice 69  :2thumbs: keep us updated  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: 1BAD68 on March 10, 2010, 11:40:26 PM
Congratulations on your Charger!
That makes two Charger's from Wisconsin gone to Finland.
Here's a pic of my old 70 thats in Finland now...
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on March 11, 2010, 03:24:53 AM
Congrats & please register the car when she gets there.

www.1969chargerregistry.com
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on March 11, 2010, 04:44:17 AM
congratulations !  nice looking  69 :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: 1969chargerrtse on March 11, 2010, 06:22:37 AM
No other car excites someone as much as an old charger. Enjoy.
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 12:14:40 PM
I´ll keep you updated  :cheers:

Here is another picture taken at same day than previous picture  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Where in Wisconsin did that car come from?  What city?
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Where in Wisconsin did that car come from?  What city?

I think it was near Milwaukee..?  :scratchchin: Why? Do you know this Charger..?  :popcrn:

If someone knows something about this I would like to hear more  :popcrn:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Where in Wisconsin did that car come from?  What city?

I think it was near Milwaukee..?  :scratchchin: Why? Do you know this Charger..?  :popcrn:

If someone knows something about this I would like to hear more  :popcrn:

I knew of one similar to that for sale by me in River Falls, Wisconsin.  But its not the same one then if you're car came from the Milwaukee area.
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Where in Wisconsin did that car come from?  What city?

I think it was near Milwaukee..?  :scratchchin: Why? Do you know this Charger..?  :popcrn:

If someone knows something about this I would like to hear more  :popcrn:

I knew of one similar to that for sale by me in River Falls, Wisconsin.  But its not the same one then if you're car came from the Milwaukee area.

Was it XP code Charger with white interior? And 440cid Magnum engine? Like I said, I don´t remember for sure where this was. I only know for sure it was from Wisconsin  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Where in Wisconsin did that car come from?  What city?

I think it was near Milwaukee..?  :scratchchin: Why? Do you know this Charger..?  :popcrn:

If someone knows something about this I would like to hear more  :popcrn:

I knew of one similar to that for sale by me in River Falls, Wisconsin.  But its not the same one then if you're car came from the Milwaukee area.

Was it XP code Charger with white interior? And 440cid Magnum engine? Like I said, I don´t remember for sure where this was. I only know for sure it was from Wisconsin  :icon_smile_big:

It had black interior.  440 auto xp code charger.  so not the same one as your car. 

Paul
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
I think I know that car.  It came from Richland Center, Wi.  A guy named Ernie owned it.  Nice car.

Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
I think I know that car.  It came from Richland Center, Wi.  A guy named Ernie owned it.  Nice car.



When this Ernie owned it..?  :scratchchin: Because previous owner wasn´t Ernie  :scratchchin: I think it was John  :shruggy: And I was told that this John has owned this Charger many years  :D
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
I can't say it is the same car for sure, but Ernie's car went overseas, it was red with a white interior, and it looks just like yours.

 Ernie had his car for many years as well.  It was an r/t clone, with a 440/727.  Ed Sights might have been involved with the sale, he is very well known when it comes to mopars for sale in this area.

Richland center or Gotham Wi.
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: twodko on March 11, 2010, 06:01:01 PM
Charger´69,

Nice car my friend and welcome to the site!

Olet liittynyt perhe täällä kuin mikään muu .... ihania ihmisiä

Tom
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 11, 2010, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
I can't say it is the same car for sure, but Ernie's car went overseas, it was red with a white interior, and it looks just like yours.

 Ernie had his car for many years as well.  It was an r/t clone, with a 440/727.  Ed Sights might have been involved with the sale, he is very well known when it comes to mopars for sale in this area.

Richland center or Gotham Wi.

Sounds just like my Charger.. Could it be same car?? I was told that previous owner bought new Dodge Challenger so that is the reason why he sold this Charger  :scratchchin: And I saw pictures where this Charger was with new Dodge Challenger together  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on March 16, 2010, 11:49:37 AM
Yep yep, estimated arrival time to my Charger to be arrived to here Finland was today, but NO, it didn´t come because just now Finnish dockers are in strike (have been two weeks already), so ships won´t come to Finland´s havens right now at all  :flame:

Damn I have a good luck always in these car issues  :brickwall:

This waiting makes me MAD......!!!  :eek2:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 07, 2010, 02:53:19 AM
Now I´m living exciting moments here, cargoship where is my Charger should come today to Finland  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :drool5: And I´m going to get it from haven on friday this week if everything goes as planned  :cheers: Well, because this took so long time when I´ll get it, there is one positive thing on it, now I can drive it home (if it works) because roads are already pretty dry. It´s a good test to Charger because from haven to here where I live is 700 kilometers  :shruggy: Let´s see what happens  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: elacruze on April 07, 2010, 07:23:06 AM
Shipped with Battery and Oil?

Looking for pictures...
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: hemi68charger on April 07, 2010, 07:30:22 AM
tick tock tick tock.........  :2thumbs:

Anticipation.......  Hope it gets there alright and you're able to get her home without any problems...  I should be getting my new '69 on Friday..

Troy
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on April 07, 2010, 07:37:49 AM
sounds good !  :yesnod:  need pictures when you get it  :yesnod: :yesnod: :popcrn:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:09:47 PM
Now I got it AT LAST, after over 5 months when I bought it :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: It is unbelievable amazing and in good condition  :2thumbs:

I love this beast and I´ll keep this my dream car with loving care  :cheers:

There is little things to fix, but almosti everything works and engine and transmission is in good condition  :2thumbs: Body is almost 100% faultless and there is no rust issues at all  :coolgleamA:

There is few pictures of it, I´ll take more when I have cleaned and waxed it  :cheers:

By the way, there is two stickers in Charger (rear bumper and dash) where reads "Mr Norm´s Grand Spaulding" and Mr Norm´s signature in those stickers. Does someone knows what that means or does it mean nothing that might be interesting..?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: PocketThunder on April 28, 2010, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:09:47 PMBy the way, there is two stickers in Charger (rear bumper and dash) where reads "Mr Norm´s Grand Spaulding" and Mr Norm´s signature in those stickers. Does someone knows what that means or does it mean nothing that might be interesting..?  :scratchchin:

Ummm yeah... you might want to check into that.   :o   :o    :drool5:    :2thumbs:


See here  http://www.mrnorms.com/

Paul
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
 :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on April 28, 2010, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on April 28, 2010, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:09:47 PMBy the way, there is two stickers in Charger (rear bumper and dash) where reads "Mr Norm´s Grand Spaulding" and Mr Norm´s signature in those stickers. Does someone knows what that means or does it mean nothing that might be interesting..?  :scratchchin:

Ummm yeah... you might want to check into that.   :o   :o    :drool5:    :2thumbs:


See here  http://www.mrnorms.com/

Paul
you finaly got it then !! that great , remember when i first got mine , would go down in the middle of the night & look at it !!   :drool5:
yeah ccould be intresting !! cant see anyone sticking them on there  for no good reason   :popcrn:

nice looking Charger  :drool5:  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: bobs66440 on April 28, 2010, 04:20:45 PM
Hey, congratulations!! Very exciting!! Enjoy it!!  :drive: :woohoo:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:24:24 PM
Thanks, I really LOVE IT too  :drool5: I always thought that -68-69 Charger might be my dreamcar and now I really know it  :cheers:

Interesting, what might be Mr Norm´s participation in this Charger..?  :scratchchin: I wasn´t even told to that there was those stickers with Mr Norm´s signatures.
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: bobs66440 on April 28, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 28, 2010, 04:24:24 PM


Interesting, what might be Mr Norm´s participation in this Charger..?  :scratchchin: I wasn´t even told to that there was those stickers with Mr Norm´s signatures.

Good question...should be fun finding out! Keep us posted.

Bob
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: CB on April 28, 2010, 04:58:31 PM
I love the color combo :icon_smile_big:
Same as mine right now :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tomonty on April 28, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
QuoteBody is almost 100% faultless and there is no rust issues at all

Definitely not something you hear that often about a car from Wisconsin lol... :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 29, 2010, 04:46:12 AM
Quote from: CB on April 28, 2010, 04:58:31 PM
I love the color combo :icon_smile_big:
Same as mine right now :cheers:

Actually I wanted black Charger but I really love also this color when I saw it in real life  :cheers: And yes, You have great looking Charger too  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on April 29, 2010, 04:47:49 AM
Quote from: tomonty on April 28, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
QuoteBody is almost 100% faultless and there is no rust issues at all

Definitely not something you hear that often about a car from Wisconsin lol... :icon_smile_big:

Yes I know, that is the reason why I´m too so suprised about that  :rofl:  :o :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: 69*F5*SE on April 29, 2010, 06:03:15 AM
Congrats  :cheers:  It finally came and it's beautiful.    :drool5:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 01, 2010, 11:13:39 AM
Now is first city cruising done  :cheers: Over 2 hours we went cruising and everything worked just fine, I really LOVE this car, it is like a dream  :drool5: It´s very fun to drive and I love that "old school" feeling what you can get with this car  :drool5: This is very loud and mean beast  :2thumbs:

Now I know that my childhood dreamcar is really my real dreamcar, Charger have it all what I want for car  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 01, 2010, 11:16:02 AM
 :coolgleamA: great stuff  :yesnod:   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: RECHRGD on May 01, 2010, 11:37:53 AM
I'm happy for you!  It's good to hear a positive purchase story for a change, instead of some of the nightmares that happen.  Bob
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: HITMAN 149 on May 01, 2010, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: RECHRGD on May 01, 2010, 11:37:53 AM
I'm happy for you!  It's good to hear a positive purchase story for a change, instead of some of the nightmares that happen.  Bob

YUPPPPP!!!!!!!
congrats!!!! enjoy it in goooood health!!!!!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: bull on May 01, 2010, 09:18:41 PM
I absolutely hate those door scallop accents but the rest of the car is awesome! :2thumbs: Congrats! Looks like a great purchase.
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 02, 2010, 03:42:49 AM
Quote from: bull on May 01, 2010, 09:18:41 PM
I absolutely hate those door scallop accents but the rest of the car is awesome! :2thumbs: Congrats! Looks like a great purchase.

At first I hated those too, but now I´ve started to like those, so I might keep it like it is  :shruggy: Those are only tape so those can be removed easily if I want to do that in future. But those Hemi emblems have to go, I don´t understand why there is Hemi emblems in doors because there is no Hemi engine  :shruggy:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: R2 on May 02, 2010, 04:58:28 AM
Congrats,,,Nice car,,,
Hopefully you can keep it out of the snow...Wisconsin gets lots of that...lol
Mine had HEMI tags in the doors when i got it,,,,it is a 440 car,,,but the previous owner had a HEMI in it,,,I replaced them with 440 tags for now,,,to cover up the mounting holes in the doors,,,,
Looks like you also have the stripe and R/T badges out back....hmmm,,,similar to mine...

Great car,,,congrats,
Doug

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/69CHARGERMD/P4110065.jpg)

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/69CHARGERMD/P4170076.jpg)
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 01:50:25 PM
Today I again did something to Charger and I took some pictures  :popcrn:

These things I´ve done to my Charger for now in last 7 days:
- Oil and oilfilter change
- washed body 2 times
- cleaned interior and do some fixing to it (it looks good now!)
- changed fuel hoses (those two in tank and that one that goes to the carburator)
- fixed some minor contact problems in wires
- and of course I´ve drove Charger almost every day  :cheers:
- and many more little things that I can´t remember right now

And here the pictures. In these first two pictures it is on my new carlift, it´s lifted 70cm high in pictures but that lifter can lift it in 100cm high  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 01:50:56 PM
Ass  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Beast in it´s own cave  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
And some interior pics too, now it´s clean  ;)
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 01:52:48 PM
And last one  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: bobs66440 on May 04, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
Glad you are enjoying it!! You didn't move your bed out there did you?!?   :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 04, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
You didn't move your bed out there did you?!?   :smilielol:

Of course not, I sleep in Charger  :o :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Darkman on May 05, 2010, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 04, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
You didn't move your bed out there did you?!?   :smilielol:

Of course not, I sleep in Charger  :o :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:

:smilielol: Well said!

Very nice car indeed. I really like your car lift! Where did you get that from (who makes them?)
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: dpm68 on May 05, 2010, 12:56:28 AM
Hello from the Mile-high! Nice ride, for sure. 
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 01:00:16 AM
Quote from: Darkman on May 05, 2010, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 04, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
You didn't move your bed out there did you?!?   :smilielol:

Of course not, I sleep in Charger  :o :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:

:smilielol: Well said!

Very nice car indeed. I really like your car lift! Where did you get that from (who makes them?)

Thanks  :cheers: I bought that lifter here from Finland so I don´t know who sells it there, but it´s typical "China made" lifter so I´m pretty sure that someone sells these in there also  :yesnod: Model is YDJ-3000B  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: kingjoop on May 05, 2010, 03:55:19 AM
awesome ride! Enjoy  :2thumbs:

greetings from Holland  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 05, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 04, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 04, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
You didn't move your bed out there did you?!?   :smilielol:

Of course not, I sleep in Charger  :o :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:

:lol: :2thumbs: :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
And another  :hah:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
I can't say it is the same car for sure, but Ernie's car went overseas, it was red with a white interior, and it looks just like yours.

 Ernie had his car for many years as well.  It was an r/t clone, with a 440/727.  Ed Sights might have been involved with the sale, he is very well known when it comes to mopars for sale in this area.

Richland center or Gotham Wi.

And YES, this might be just that car that you know!! Few days ago I got it´s previous title and previous owner really WAS Ernest, maybe he is called Ernie??  :scratchchin: I would like to know more of this car if someone have some info of this  :2thumbs: And also Ernest´s email or something contact info to him would be nice  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: PocketThunder on May 05, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
I love the dirt bike hanging out next to the front porch...  hop on and go baby!!!!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on May 05, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
I love the dirt bike hanging out next to the front porch...  hop on and go baby!!!!   :2thumbs:

I like it too, my dear and old "sick leave" machine  :o :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 05, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D

no worries !! love looking at charger pictures  :yesnod:   :popcrn:
been using the red autoglym  must be for 20 years now  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D

no worries !! love looking at charger pictures  :yesnod:   :popcrn:
been using the red autoglym  must be for 20 years now  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

I always use red Autoglym first and immediately after I wax it second time with that gold Autoglym, it makes body shine a lot and gives long lasting wax coat to car  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: LUMI on May 05, 2010, 02:07:58 PM
congratulations another Charger to Finland is absolutely a good thing :cheers:
and i just autoglymd mine it is going to Oulu ACC motor show on this weekend :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: FlatbackFanatic on May 05, 2010, 02:18:35 PM
She's a beauty!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: LUMI on May 05, 2010, 02:07:58 PM
congratulations another Charger to Finland is absolutely a good thing :cheers:
and i just autoglymd mine it is going to Oulu ACC motor show on this weekend :coolgleamA:

Great!!  :2thumbs: I´ll see your´s Charger then saturday night  :drool5: :drool5: There is coming also Charger with injected 572cid Hemi if I´m not wrong, so it would be very exciting to see those both Chargers there  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 05, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D

no worries !! love looking at charger pictures  :yesnod:   :popcrn:
been using the red autoglym  must be for 20 years now  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

I always use red Autoglym first and immediately after I wax it second time with that gold Autoglym, it makes body shine a lot and gives long lasting wax coat to car  :2thumbs:


oh right i see, i'll give it a try ! thanks for the advice appreciated!!  yeah the red don't last that long even after to or three coats straight on top of each other

:cheers: :yesnod: :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: LUMI on May 05, 2010, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:21:03 PM

Great!!  :2thumbs: I´ll see your´s Charger then saturday night  :drool5: :drool5: There is coming also Charger with injected 572cid Hemi if I´m not wrong, so it would be very exciting to see those both Chargers there  :drool5:

yes ill be there the whole saturday night and drinkin some beer :popcrn:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D

no worries !! love looking at charger pictures  :yesnod:   :popcrn:
been using the red autoglym  must be for 20 years now  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

I always use red Autoglym first and immediately after I wax it second time with that gold Autoglym, it makes body shine a lot and gives long lasting wax coat to car  :2thumbs:


oh right i see, i'll give it a try !  yeah the red don't last that long even after to or three coats straight on top of each other

:cheers: :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

Yes my friend, try it and You´ll be satisfied!  :2thumbs: Beginning of summer use first red Autoglym and immediately that gold and You have long lasting wax coat and You won´t have to wax it after that than just only with that gold Autoglym rest of the summer few times and You´ll always have amazing wax coat top of Your Charger  :2thumbs:  :drool5: That gold Autoglym is also much easier and faster to use and it really makes great wax coat on Your car  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:38:29 PM
Quote from: LUMI on May 05, 2010, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:21:03 PM

Great!!  :2thumbs: I´ll see your´s Charger then saturday night  :drool5: :drool5: There is coming also Charger with injected 572cid Hemi if I´m not wrong, so it would be very exciting to see those both Chargers there  :drool5:

yes ill be there the whole saturday night and drinkin some beer :popcrn:

Me too, maybe we see there and drink few beers!!  :2thumbs: You can see my picture in this topic, come to chat with me if You notice me there  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 05, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 05, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 05, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Sorry guys, again few pictures  :shruggy: :smilielol:

Today I washed dusts off from it and I drove it back to garage of course that I can start waxing it tomorrow  :cheers: Interesting to see how it looks after I´ve waxed it with AutoGlym red and gold carwaxes  :popcrn:

It´s wet in pictures, so don´t mind the water drops that you can see in pictures  :D

no worries !! love looking at charger pictures  :yesnod:   :popcrn:
been using the red autoglym  must be for 20 years now  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

I always use red Autoglym first and immediately after I wax it second time with that gold Autoglym, it makes body shine a lot and gives long lasting wax coat to car  :2thumbs:


oh right i see, i'll give it a try !  yeah the red don't last that long even after to or three coats straight on top of each other

:cheers: :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

Yes my friend, try it and You´ll be satisfied!  :2thumbs: Beginning of summer use first red Autoglym and immediately that gold and You have long lasting wax coat and You won´t have to wax it after that than just only with that gold Autoglym rest of the summer few times and You´ll always have amazing wax coat top of Your Charger  :2thumbs:  :drool5: That gold Autoglym is also much easier and faster to use and it really makes great wax coat on Your car  :2thumbs:

ok will get some tomorrow  :yesnod: , thanks for the advice ! appreciated Dude :cheers: :cheers: :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 06, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
Today I waxed first wax coat with Autoglym red, tomorrow I wax it second time with that Autoglym gold  :cheers: By the way, that car lift is unbelievable help when You wax your car  :2thumbs: First time in my life waxing was pretty easy, fast and fun  :cheers:

But when I was waxing my baby, I noticed that it´s paint isn´t 100% perfect. There is minor mistakes in painting, I found maybe three of those, OMG  :o :RantExplode: :smilielol: :smilielol: So it is only 99% perfect, what a disappointment  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 06, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
Now I maybe know why there is Hemi emblems in doors, maybe this is painted with Hemi orange paint..?  :o

I know, that in pictures what I´ve posted here it looks like red, but always when sun is shining to my Charger it is orange!!  :o :hah: :shruggy:

This paint is in normal weather red and in sunny weather it is orange  :scratchchin: :shruggy: Interesting....  :D
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 07, 2010, 01:58:42 PM
Well a "little" change to tomorrow´s plans  :o Few hours ago I got an call from tomorrow show crew, they asked my Charger to the show!!  :o

Well I said I think about it because it isn´t ready to show in my opinion, but two Chargers couldn´t come because of problems so they wanted another Charger there, so I promised to take it there!!  :shruggy:

Now we have fixed my Charger to show condition many hours, luckily I have just waxed it two times and cleaned it, but many things are still to do and everything can´t be done because Charger have to be there in 14 hours  :o

But they wanted this there so I´ll get this there, maybe it isn´t so bad what I think myself  :cheers:

So we´ll see there LUMI and I have my Charger with me, hopefully we get our cars in same place so we can take nice photos of ´68 and ´69 Chargers  :2thumbs:

Here it is almost ready to show  :popcrn:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: oldrock on May 07, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
very nice charger and cool to hear it is now in Finland. My family is originally from Finland 2 generations ago. Beautiful country based on the pics I've seen. Enjoy that charger!
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 09, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
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Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: tan top on May 09, 2010, 04:43:12 PM
good day by the looks of it  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: bobs66440 on May 10, 2010, 10:02:15 AM
Glad to hear you had fun!! That's what it's all about!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 10, 2010, 03:19:23 PM
Today I examined engine´s adjustments and adjusted sparking advance from 5 degrees before to 10 degrees before. I also checked Holley Street Avenger setup and here You can read more of it:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,69721.0.html

I have also one question of that carb adjustment and if someone know what should I do I would appreciate a little help now  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 12, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
Well, this week I have adjusted carb settings and kickdown rods and now this mean devil is faster, stronger and meaner  :2thumbs: :2thumbs: And it works great now!!  :cheers: :cheers:

Maybe now I´ll just drive with it and do nothing if not necessary  :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:

And here is in my opinion pretty cool picture of it  :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: bobs66440 on May 12, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have?  :scope:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: 1969chargerrtse on May 12, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
That is a beautiful car.  You did well.  I was so hoping there would be no sad things popping up as I read on from page one.  Beautiful car. :2thumbs:

I love that jack.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 13, 2010, 03:30:39 AM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 12, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have?  :scope:

Thanks! Those are Magnum 500 wheels (or Road wheels, same thing I quess). I remember that those are 8" wide wheels, size is 15". Front tires are BFG 215/65 and reartires BFG 245/60. Reartires are too small, maybe I do few burnouts and then I "must" buy BFG 295/50  :hah: :shruggy:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: bobs66440 on May 13, 2010, 04:27:27 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 13, 2010, 03:30:39 AM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 12, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have?  :scope:

Thanks! Those are Magnum 500 wheels (or Road wheels, same thing I quess). I remember that those are 8" wide wheels, size is 15". Front tires are BFG 215/65 and reartires BFG 245/60. Reartires are too small, maybe I do few burnouts and then I "must" buy BFG 295/50  :hah: :shruggy:

:2thumbs: That's the most FUN way of using them up!!  :drive:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 15, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
Today we adjusted Charger´s brakes  :2thumbs: Right front brake needed adjusting becaus it didn´t brake as much than left front brake. Now brakes are balanced  :2thumbs:

Maybe later tonight we´ll go cruising with it if weather gets better, it just rained so roads are wet and my Charger stays in garage till roads are dry again  :hah:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: bobs66440 on May 15, 2010, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 15, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
t just rained so roads are wet and my Charger stays in garage till roads are dry again  :hah:

You got that right!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 24, 2010, 12:46:01 PM
Now I haven´t done anything to my Charger, only washed it few times etc., but mainly I´ve just driven it a lot and it´s been GREAT!!!!!  :2thumbs:

I found one interesting picture of it, this is taken couple days later when I got this Charger one month ago. Here we can see how this color transforms when sun shines... What color this might be..? I thought this is Hemi orange but maybe it is too red to be Hemi orange color. What do you guys think?  :shruggy: It´s in normal weather red, but when sun is shining it turns out pretty orange  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Johnny SixPack on May 24, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Don't know the color, but she's d@mn pretty!  :yesnod: :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 24, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: jeryst on May 24, 2010, 02:19:48 PM
That seems like a very drastic change in color.
Maybe it was painted with a flip-flop style paint.

Dont quite know how to describe what to look for.

Look at it without the sun shining directly on it, when it looks red.
Then look at any of the sharper edges that are reflecting some light.
Do the edges look orange?
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 24, 2010, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 24, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

Your's Charger's paint looks just like my Chargers paint, what color is it do you know?  :cheers:

And by the way, nice wheels  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 24, 2010, 11:01:17 PM
Quote from: jeryst on May 24, 2010, 02:19:48 PM
That seems like a very drastic change in color.
Maybe it was painted with a flip-flop style paint.

Dont quite know how to describe what to look for.

Look at it without the sun shining directly on it, when it looks red.
Then look at any of the sharper edges that are reflecting some light.
Do the edges look orange?


I´ll check that in this week  :D
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 01:56:59 PM
Today I really punished my Charger, I tested quarter mail times with G-Tech two times...  :rofl: Of course on "closed track"  :D

Road was little dirty and those BFG 245 wide reartires was VERY slippery when launching car moving, so rear tires smoked really bad  :D on both speed ups so I didn´t get decent 1/4 times, but here are numbers: 1/4 mail times was almost mid 14´s, 0-60mph was 6.2 seconds and trap speed was +100mph. So these numbers are pretty normal to this kind of kombination I think..?  :scratchchin:

I just calculated with horsepower calculators and those showed me that there might be something 300-315 RWHP (with 18% drivetrain loss it makes something 360-380 hp from flywheel). Doesn´t surprise much, because engine is almost original 440cid Magnum, only carb is changed to Holley Street Avenger DP 670cfm and cam is little bit stiffer than original Magnum cam.

I´ll test this soon in this summer also on real drag race track and then we´ll see how it moves when is decent track and I´ll have to also practise MUCH launching this devil that I can get better 1/4 mail times, I shouldn´t smoke tires that badly if I want it to move faster  :hah: My target is to get it going somewhere low 14´s or high 13´s, I don´t know is it possible but let´s see what happens.....  :D :popcrn:

What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: XS29L9B2 on May 26, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
so cute your car  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Khyron on May 26, 2010, 02:46:06 PM
Im thinking the carb is small...I say up the carb, put a 150 shot of giggle juice on it and "let her eat" :D

That will get ya where you want it ;)
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: PocketThunder on May 26, 2010, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 24, 2010, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 24, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

Your's Charger's paint looks just like my Chargers paint, what color is it do you know?  :cheers:

And by the way, nice wheels  :2thumbs:

DuPont "Spectramaster Red....code # RS673K if you wanted to know" urethane enamel base coat/clear coat paint.

http://members.tripod.com/charger_rt69/body___.htm
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 26, 2010, 04:22:28 PM
Thanks Paul! :thumbs:

Quote from: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 01:56:59 PM


What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  :scratchchin:

I think mid to high 13's are definitely attainable with your combo
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: Khyron on May 26, 2010, 02:46:06 PM
Im thinking the carb is small...I say up the carb, put a 150 shot of giggle juice on it and "let her eat" :D

That will get ya where you want it ;)

I´ve wondered that myself too after I got this car, but is it too small?  :shruggy:

I just calculated that with carb CFM calculator (displacement 440cid, max rpm in this case shiftpoint 5500 rpm, 90% VE) and that seems to show that required cfm is 630cfm, with 100% it is VE 700cfm. And I have 670cfm, so, in theory this carb is pretty correct to this engine. But if I use 440cid, 6000rpm, 100% VE it shows that required cfm is 763cfm. I´ve always thought that 750cfm DP would be right to 440cid and that seems to kind of true. But do I get more power with 750cfm carburator, because shiftpoint is somewhere 5000-5500rpm and I don´t think that my engines VE% is 100, I think it is somewhere between 85-90% and with those numbers 670cfm carburator is sufficient  :scratchchin:

I used this calculator: http://www.4secondsflat.com/Carb_CFM_Calculator.html

And noooooooo, no giggle juices with this kind of car  :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: But maybe 8-71 would be nice.....  :D But maybe better just drive when everything is rocking  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 26, 2010, 04:22:28 PM
Thanks Paul! :thumbs:

Quote from: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 01:56:59 PM


What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  :scratchchin:

I think mid to high 13's are definitely attainable with your combo

Those quarter mail times were poor when I tried those because I haven´t practise accelerating properly before with this car, but trap speed tells me that there is some power. Do you think that mid to high 13's is attainable really with this setup that I have without doing nothing to it, or did you mean that this kind of combo normally goes to those numbers..?  :scratchchin:

I read somewhere that even Hemi didn´t do better 1/4 mail times than 13.4-13.7s, so how fast can almost unchangeable 440cid Magnum be?  :scratchchin: That mid or high 13´s would be great if I get to those this summer  :2thumbs: Of course with slicks tires it could be easy, but I want to get my numbers always with normal street setup  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on May 28, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Today I bought ignition timing light that have adjustable 0-60 degree spark advance knop. So of course I immediately tuned my spark advance  :yesnod: Few weeks before I increased spark advance from 5 degrees before to 10 degrees before. It worked fine and gave me more power  :2thumbs:

Today I checked max spark advance with new timing light and it was only 30 degrees. So, I increased it to 35-36 degrees, someone said that even 38 degrees would be good. But that max where I dear to tune it. It didn´t start knocking even when I floor it and drive all gears through  :2thumbs: Or then I didn´t hear it, but it worked very good and again, more power from engine  :drool5: If I don´t imagine that all  :D What you guys think, is my max spark advance still in "safe area"..?  :scratchchin: My Charger is so noisy when revving it, that I´m not sure if I even can hear if it knocks, but doesn´t that feel also in loss of power if it starts knocking?  :scratchchin: My idle spark advance is now somewhere 14-15 degrees before, so I have increased spark advance something 10 degrees what there used to be before. And there came plenty more power  :yesnod:

Why 1969 Repair manual sais that idle spark advance should be 5 degrees before, if it makes much more power with 15 degrees basic advance and with max advance 35-36 degrees..?  :scratchchin: That is quite a big difference  :shruggy:

We just came from few hours cruising in town with my friends, damn it was fun again  :drool5: These my friends doesn´t own American cars themselves, but everyone seemed to be like in heaven (or maybe hell is better said  :icon_smile_wink: ), those liked a lot to be cruising in Charger  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 10, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Tomorrow I´m going to change my original coil to MSD Blaster 2 coil, so, do I have to do anything else to it than only swap original coil to MSD coil and fire it up?  :scratchchin:

I think I was reading from somewhere that there might come some problems because MSD is something 42-45kV coil and original coil I think is less than or maximum 30kV coil. So might there be problems with new coil or not? Many have changed original coil to MSD, have you guys just swapped coils without any other changes to electrical and does it work right that way?  :scratchchin:

Original coil has some resistor in firewall, does MSD need it anymore?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 11, 2010, 05:12:59 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 10, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Tomorrow I´m going to change my original coil to MSD Blaster 2 coil, so, do I have to do anything else to it than only swap original coil to MSD coil and fire it up?  :scratchchin:

I think I was reading from somewhere that there might come some problems because MSD is something 42-45kV coil and original coil I think is less than or maximum 30kV coil. So might there be problems with new coil or not? Many have changed original coil to MSD, have you guys just swapped coils without any other changes to electrical and does it work right that way?  :scratchchin:

Original coil has some resistor in firewall, does MSD need it anymore?  :scratchchin:

Almost everyone uses this coil but no one doesn´t know how to install this MSD Blaster 2 coil..?  :o :D

I got the MSD coil now, and instructions (yes, I red those  :smilielol: ) said that in original ignition systems should use 0.8 ohm ballast resistor with coil and there was MSD part number also to that ballast resistor. I just checked my original ballast resistor with multimeter and it is 1.0 ohm, so I quess I can use it with MSD Blaster 2 coil without problems or does that 0.2 ohm difference cause problems?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 11, 2010, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 11, 2010, 05:12:59 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 10, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Tomorrow I´m going to change my original coil to MSD Blaster 2 coil, so, do I have to do anything else to it than only swap original coil to MSD coil and fire it up?  :scratchchin:

I think I was reading from somewhere that there might come some problems because MSD is something 42-45kV coil and original coil I think is less than or maximum 30kV coil. So might there be problems with new coil or not? Many have changed original coil to MSD, have you guys just swapped coils without any other changes to electrical and does it work right that way?  :scratchchin:

Original coil has some resistor in firewall, does MSD need it anymore?  :scratchchin:

Almost everyone uses this coil but no one doesn´t know how to install this MSD Blaster 2 coil..?  :o :D

I got the MSD coil now, and instructions (yes, I red those  :smilielol: ) said that in original ignition systems should use 0.8 ohm ballast resistor with coil and there was MSD part number also to that ballast resistor. I just checked my original ballast resistor with multimeter and it is 1.0 ohm, so I quess I can use it with MSD Blaster 2 coil without problems or does that 0.2 ohm difference cause problems?  :scratchchin:

Really? Doesn´t anyone know this??  :o  :shruggy: :RantExplode:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 12, 2010, 05:33:08 AM
Well, because nobody didn´t say anything to my question I just swapped those coils. It seems to work just fine, BUT it doesn´t start up as easy as before. I mean it starts up good maybe in 2 seconds when starting engine, but before it started up faster, almost immediately! Does anyone know what can cause this?  :scratchchin:

There was some kind of capacitor before in original coil´s + connection, I didn´t use that with MSD coil because instructions didn´t say that I should use, but should I have used it..?  :scratchchin: Does that help engine starting faster?  :scratchchin:

And here are few pictures of Charger from friday night  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 12, 2010, 05:34:11 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 12, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Family photo  :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 13, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
Today wasn´t so great day with Charger, we went to beach with it with my girlfriend and when we tried to come back home, Charger wasn´t starting at all  :eek2: So we had to tow it home 5 miles  :RantExplode:

I took starter off and tested it, it´s dead. Bendix moves, but nothing else happens even I striked it and moved in different position. So dead what is dead, tomorrow I buy new starter to it. And new voltage regulator because old one doesn´t work properly anymore, it let battery go too empty before it begins to charge it or sometimes it doesn´s start to charge it at all. It looks like new but doesn´t work, I checked alternator also and that seemed to be fine, but who knows for sure which one is broken, I think it is voltage regulator. Great.

But sometimes this hobby is like now, it needs parts  :shruggy: Hopefully it rocks soon again!!  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: jeryst on June 13, 2010, 08:48:01 PM
Unfortunately, in todays world, electrical parts are cheaply made and highly unreliable. I dont know how many electrical parts I have had that were bad right out of the box. And others worked, but failed in a short time. Manufactured in China or Taiwan, of inferior materials, with little quality control. That's how it's done today. Gotta make sure the CEO's get their big bonuses.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Brock Samson on June 13, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
If it indeed is the starter, save yourself some grief and get the Mini starter and put some heat shield material around it.

  :yesnod:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,66589.0.html

several other threads on this topic.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 13, 2010, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on June 13, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
If it indeed is the starter, save yourself some grief and get the Mini starter and put some heat shield material around it.

  :yesnod:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,66589.0.html

several other threads on this topic.

Thanks for tip!  :2thumbs: I´ll ask today what starters are available now soon in shop and if there are mini starters in reasonable price I´ll buy that. But if not available now I´ll buy original style starter because I want my Charger to burn tires again if not tomorrow then at last day after tomorrow  :cheers:

Any tips for voltage regulator? I have now similiar than this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-4529794/?rtype=10

And it doesn´t work properly, I think it doesn´t work at all anymore because it let battery go empty  :shruggy:

Can I put this kind of regulator to it, that charges all the time 13.5V..?  :scratchchin: There reads that race use only, but I can´t see why it can´t be used in daily driving  :shruggy: An here is link to that 13.5V regulator: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690731/
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: jeryst on June 14, 2010, 12:08:46 AM
Race cars are started often, but dont run for long, so it makes sense.
I'm not sure, but if you constantly charge your battery when it doesnt need it, it may ruin the battery.

What takes the most out of a battery is starting the car, and it takes the alternator quite a while to get it back up.
If you start your car a lot, but then just take it for short rides, it will deplete the battery. I remember
reading somewhere that you car needs to be run for a half hour just to restore the power that was used to start it. I'm
not sure how accurate that is, but it doesnt instantly charge back up. Imagine if you had a bucket full of water, and every time
you scooped out a cup full of water, you put back in a half cup of water. It would take a while, but eventually, the bucket would
become empty.

You may have some type of short, or drain on the battery when the car is off, so that may be something you want to check.
If your clock works, it will slowly drain the battery. So will a modern stereo system, because it uses a tiny bit of power for the clock circuitry.

I disconnect the battery on all of my old cars when they are not being driven for more than a couple of days.
When I do that, the battery is always ready to go. But if I leave it connected for a couple of weeks without driving the car, I can see a noticeable difference
in the power of the battery. If I leave it connected all winter, the battery is always dead come spring. If I disconnect it, it is fine come spring.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 14, 2010, 12:43:50 AM
Quote from: jeryst on June 14, 2010, 12:08:46 AM
Race cars are started often, but dont run for long, so it makes sense.
I'm not sure, but if you constantly charge your battery when it doesnt need it, it may ruin the battery.

What takes the most out of a battery is starting the car, and it takes the alternator quite a while to get it back up.
If you start your car a lot, but then just take it for short rides, it will deplete the battery. I remember
reading somewhere that you car needs to be run for a half hour just to restore the power that was used to start it. I'm
not sure how accurate that is, but it doesnt instantly charge back up. Imagine if you had a bucket full of water, and every time
you scooped out a cup full of water, you put back in a half cup of water. It would take a while, but eventually, the bucket would
become empty.

You may have some type of short, or drain on the battery when the car is off, so that may be something you want to check.
If your clock works, it will slowly drain the battery. So will a modern stereo system, because it uses a tiny bit of power for the clock circuitry.

I disconnect the battery on all of my old cars when they are not being driven for more than a couple of days.
When I do that, the battery is always ready to go. But if I leave it connected for a couple of weeks without driving the car, I can see a noticeable difference
in the power of the battery. If I leave it connected all winter, the battery is always dead come spring. If I disconnect it, it is fine come spring.

Yes, you right about those things  ::) I disconnect my battery too always when I leave it to garage even for one day. It is old car and old wires etc. so why I do this is because I have, I don´t know what is called, but it is "quick disconnect terminal" (fast to disconnect) in my battery and it´s safer that way.

I think that my voltage regulator has gone bad or broken, because almost every time I´ve revved engine like maniac voltage drops and it doesn´t start charging anymore before next time I start the car. Last two times I drove it, it didn´t start charging at all, so that VR might be as dead as my starter too. I have electronic ignition (some original system, gray box in firewall) and electronic VR.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 14, 2010, 04:14:32 AM
Quote from: Brock Samson on June 13, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
If it indeed is the starter, save yourself some grief and get the Mini starter and put some heat shield material around it.

  :yesnod:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,66589.0.html

several other threads on this topic.

There was two choices, repaired original starter and new mini starter so I bought new mini starter. I hope it is good, because those reasonable price mini starters are usually made in china and "quality" sucks sometimes....  :brickwall: But tomorrow I get it and hopefully it´s good  :2thumbs:

I bought also Standard electronic voltage regulator that is mentioned to -70-92 mopars ( I think it is same than this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SMP-VR125/?rtype=10 ). I´ll get that also tomorrow, so maybe I´ll burn Charger´s rubbers soon again  :D :D

But I´m still thinking about that 13.5V voltage regulator, I would have bought that also if it have been available now immediately, but shops where I called didn´t have that right now  :shruggy: But when they got that, I´ll buy that one also and try how it works in street use. In that shop where I bought that mini starter the salesman said, that he has that 13.5 V voltage regulator in his Dodge and it have worked fine for years now and there hasn´t been problems  :2thumbs: I think it would be good for ignition etc. when voltage is higher than 12 V. Don´t know, has anyone here tried that kind of regulator in street use?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 15, 2010, 01:04:09 PM
Today I assembled new mini starter to Charger.. And started the car and THIS BAD BOY IS ALIVE AGAIN  :cheers: :drool5: :2thumbs: New starter feels very strong compared to old one  :yesnod:

But it didn´t charge battery at all... So I quick checked that my alternator has correct wiring and I think it is. It is dual field alternator, I checked that also. And I installed new electronic voltage regulator and started car again, IT CHARGES NOW  :o :icon_smile_big: And charging gauge show slow and smooth action, old voltage regulator when it worked was very unstable, gauge jumped fast to everywhere all the time, charges much, don´t charge at all, charges little, charges much, doesn´t charge at all etc. Now it works slow and smooth and keeps needle above 0 constantly  :2thumbs:

So, now it works again 100% and I´m very satisfied and I feel really good again  :D

Now chin to chest and towards new disappointments  :nana: :smilielol:

I´ll buy another new voltage regulator to glove compartment, that I can change that fast if I´m on the road and it fails again..  ::)

Here is picture that reflects my feelings now, this is taken 2 weeks ago when I was road trip with Charger and with my girlfriend and brother  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: bobs66440 on June 15, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 15, 2010, 01:04:09 PM


Now chin to chest and towards new disappointments  :nana: :smilielol:



:smilielol: :lol: :smilielol: :lol: It's the truth, isn't it?

Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: bobs66440 on June 15, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 15, 2010, 01:04:09 PM


Here is picture that reflects my feelings now, this is taken 2 weeks ago when I was road trip with Charger and with my girlfriend and brother  :coolgleamA:

Great pic!! Enjoy!!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: elacruze on June 15, 2010, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 12, 2010, 05:33:08 AM
Well, because nobody didn´t say anything to my question I just swapped those coils. It seems to work just fine, BUT it doesn´t start up as easy as before. I mean it starts up good maybe in 2 seconds when starting engine, but before it started up faster, almost immediately! Does anyone know what can cause this?  :scratchchin:

FWIW your dying starter was drawing a lot more amperage than normal, so the voltage available to the ignition during cranking was reduced.
For the .2 Ohm difference, I can't see why that small difference could affect anything much. Electrical Engineers tend to be fussy about significant figures.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 15, 2010, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: elacruze on June 15, 2010, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 12, 2010, 05:33:08 AM
Well, because nobody didn´t say anything to my question I just swapped those coils. It seems to work just fine, BUT it doesn´t start up as easy as before. I mean it starts up good maybe in 2 seconds when starting engine, but before it started up faster, almost immediately! Does anyone know what can cause this?  :scratchchin:

FWIW your dying starter was drawing a lot more amperage than normal, so the voltage available to the ignition during cranking was reduced.
For the .2 Ohm difference, I can't see why that small difference could affect anything much. Electrical Engineers tend to be fussy about significant figures.

Yep, I don´t mind that 0.2 ohm difference, I hope Charger don´t mind that too  :D We´ll see...

Here is picture of new mini starter that I just assembled. Next to mini starter is old starter that retaired surprisingly  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 19, 2010, 09:43:45 AM
Today I just washed this bad boy and drove it a little bit and it was cool, again  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 19, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: CB on June 19, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
Why don't you shoot some video clips?
That would be cool, to hear and see your Charger running :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 19, 2010, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: CB on June 19, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
Why don't you shoot some video clips?
That would be cool, to hear and see your Charger running :2thumbs:

Ok, I´ll do that some day soon  :2thumbs: I´ll have to check do I already have videos, I think I have some short "movies"  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 21, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
Nothing much, but in new V8 Magazine which is one Finnish American car magazine, had picture of mine and Lumi´s Chargers in article about American Car Shows 2010 compilation in Finland  :cheers: It was a nice surprise when I yesterday got new magazine and started reading it I noticed that our Chargers was shoot and added to article  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on June 23, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
Today I changed Charger´s spark plugs.. There was before Autolite 85, I changed there AC Delco R43S spark plugs. These AC Delcos are a little bit colder spark plugs. It worked good with Autolite 85, but those colder AC Delcos was recommended to '69 440cid Magnum engine so I bought those  :shruggy:

It worked good, I did go testing it after change. But damn that was "fun" to change those spark plugs, first I thought that it is 15 min job but I was wrong  :smilielol: It took some while when I got those changed...  :D

I just wonder why my Charger now "misfires" sometimes when I floor it somewhere 3000-3500 rpm, this happens only when driving first gear, second and third gear no problem  :shruggy: I think it started when I changed my original coil to MSD Blaster 2 coil, I thought that it was pinging and I decreased my initial advance from 15 BTDC to 10 BTDC. That felt that it helped a little, but still sometimes it misfires. Today I noticed it again after I changed those spark plugs, but when I had floored it maybe two or three times that way that engine was pretty hot (200*F), it worked good again, no misfiring in ignition. What can cause this? Is it my ignition box or what? Or doesn´t my engine´s vacuum be enough to open secondaries properly and it misfires because there won´t go enough gas etc.?? I think vacuum is higher (?) when accelerating in second or third gear than first gear..

Tomorrow I´ll increase my initial advance back to 15 BTDC because that misfiring didn´t cause by that, I think. Or then I´ll have to decrease it even more, but I don´t think that this engine should start pinging with 10 BTDC, because max ignition advance is 30 degrees now..  :shruggy: And that is odd that when I have floored it few times it stops doing that misfiring  :shruggy:

Do you guys have any tips or ideas?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland** NOW VIDEO!!!
Post by: Charger´69 on June 25, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
Yesterday I increased initial spark advance to 13 BTDC, it didn´t start misfiring or pinging, maybe I increase it bit more soon.. That misfiring is mystery, it sometimes comes and goes away without reason, don´t know what is wrong or is nothing  :shruggy:

Today we cruised few hours and when we came back, I took this one poor vid from it  :rofl: And I started taking beer myself  :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpTs-mtoqaU

Quality is poor, I´m sorry, I´ll take better videos in future  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on July 02, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
Damn, yesterday it started that ignition misfiring badly  :eek2: :brickwall: Now it misfired all gears through +2000 rpm  :icon_smile_blackeye:

So, I thought that if those spark plug wires that I have (some High Performance 7.5mm), strike through because those were so close each other. I spend 1.5 hours when I routed those again that way, that those are not close each other. Went cruising and it still ignition didn´t work properly.

So I took that MSD Blaster 2 coil off and assembled there that rusty and ugly old original coil, started engine and go cruising and now it works better than in weeks!!!  :D :2thumbs: So, something odd there is when that MSD is installed with Charger´s original ballast resistor, don´t know what  :shruggy:

I also increased that ignition advance to 15 BTDC (max advance now 35 degrees) and it works and moves better than ever before  :drool5:

I´ll have to buy that MSD 0.8ohm ballast resistor and try that coil with that resistor, but I think my MSD might have gone bad because it worked so poorly yesterday  :RantExplode: Well it isn´t expensive but still...

Maybe I shouldn´t do anything to it than just drive, because with original coil etc. it works so good, so why put high performance parts to it if it doesn´t work properly  :shruggy:

Today I bought new Chrysler ignition module (4pin) and another new electronic voltage regulator just in case, if those parts fail when I´m on the road with Charger..  :slap: I have new VR on it now, but that ignition module is old rusty one (5pin), so I´ll swap that new one there that it looks better and keep that old one in glove compartment just in case. Only difference with that 4pin and 5pin is extra grounding in that 5pin I assume? So I can swap that 4pin ignition module without modifications to Charger? Of course I have good ground cable from intake manifold to ignition module´s chassis, so maybe that extra grounding isn´t so important, don´t know, just a thought  :shruggy:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on July 28, 2010, 12:52:31 PM
It´s been while when I last wrote what´s up with my Charger.

Well I have just droven it a lot and it have been great  :cheers: I bought new battery to it (60Ah/510A), that´s all I´ve done to it. And I got black registry plates to it (not in picture). Now it has worked without problems, it starts always without any problems and now engine works like it should work, it hasn´t misfired anymore after I changed that old coil back to it  :cheers: That MSD didn´t work, don´t know why and I don´t care  :slap:

This picture is taken from one car show where I was with my friends and Charger two weeks ago  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: LUMI on July 28, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
nice picture :cheers:
how long it took to get those short black ones?
i cot my short whities today and ordered blacks
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on July 28, 2010, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: LUMI on July 28, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
nice picture :cheers:
how long it took to get those short black ones?
i cot my short whities today and ordered blacks

Yes I heard from Esko last saturday when we were in O.S.H.A. cruising that you got your Charger inspected at last  :2thumbs:

I think it took something almost two weeks to get those black plates... Wasn´t it grazy that you had to first get white plates and after that black plates, you couldn´t have those black plates directly..?!  :smilielol: Weird policy here....  :scratchchin: :rofl:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: LUMI on July 28, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
yes it took over one year :angel:
OK then it is not so long time to wait, and it is only money to the state to take those white ones first :brickwall:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland**
Post by: Charger´69 on August 13, 2010, 08:26:20 AM
So, if I want to put 15x10 Magnum 500 rear wheels I suppose these would fit without modifications with 295/50 tires?  :drool5:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WVI-54501205/

Those are Magnum 500 wheels with 5 inch backspace and and 5 x 4.5 inch  :yesnod:

I don´t know how wide my Magnum 500 rear wheels are now, but I think that those are something like 8" wide, max 9"  :scratchchin: There are 245/60 BFG´s on now. Can someone tell from pictures that do I have already 10" wide wheels? I don´t think so  :shruggy:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland** NOW VIDEO!!!
Post by: tan top on August 13, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 25, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
Yesterday I increased initial spark advance to 13 BTDC, it didn´t start misfiring or pinging, maybe I increase it bit more soon.. That misfiring is mystery, it sometimes comes and goes away without reason, don´t know what is wrong or is nothing  :shruggy:

Today we cruised few hours and when we came back, I took this one poor vid from it  :rofl: And I started taking beer myself  :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpTs-mtoqaU

Quality is poor, I´m sorry, I´ll take better videos in future  :cheers:

sounds good ! nice looking charger  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Finland** NOW VIDEO!!!
Post by: Charger´69 on August 13, 2010, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: tan top on August 13, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 25, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
Yesterday I increased initial spark advance to 13 BTDC, it didn´t start misfiring or pinging, maybe I increase it bit more soon.. That misfiring is mystery, it sometimes comes and goes away without reason, don´t know what is wrong or is nothing  :shruggy:

Today we cruised few hours and when we came back, I took this one poor vid from it  :rofl: And I started taking beer myself  :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpTs-mtoqaU

Quality is poor, I´m sorry, I´ll take better videos in future  :cheers:

sounds good ! nice looking charger  :coolgleamA:

Thanks, I like it too  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **Drag racing!**
Post by: Charger´69 on August 22, 2010, 05:29:59 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 26, 2010, 01:56:59 PM
Today I really punished my Charger, I tested quarter mail times with G-Tech two times...  :rofl: Of course on "closed track"  :D

Road was little dirty and those BFG 245 wide reartires was VERY slippery when launching car moving, so rear tires smoked really bad  :D on both speed ups so I didn´t get decent 1/4 times, but here are numbers: 1/4 mail times was almost mid 14´s, 0-60mph was 6.2 seconds and trap speed was +100mph. So these numbers are pretty normal to this kind of kombination I think..?  :scratchchin:

I just calculated with horsepower calculators and those showed me that there might be something 300-315 RWHP (with 18% drivetrain loss it makes something 360-380 hp from flywheel). Doesn´t surprise much, because engine is almost original 440cid Magnum, only carb is changed to Holley Street Avenger DP 670cfm and cam is little bit stiffer than original Magnum cam.

I´ll test this soon in this summer also on real drag race track and then we´ll see how it moves when is decent track and I´ll have to also practise MUCH launching this devil that I can get better 1/4 mail times, I shouldn´t smoke tires that badly if I want it to move faster  :hah: My target is to get it going somewhere low 14´s or high 13´s, I don´t know is it possible but let´s see what happens.....  :D :popcrn:

What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  :scratchchin:


Well, I was yesterday in real Drag race track with my Charger and I drove 3 times 1/4 mile time. First two starts was something 14.7s / 96 mph. 60 feet times was 2.5 s, so those were pretty poor starts  :slap: :D Track was very slippery because I drove without slicks.

I was hoping that I would get low 14´s, but that didn´t happen yet. I´ll have to practise my driving in quarter mile, it´s kind of hard to get good launch from lights because track is slippery slippery with BFG 245/60-15 rear street tires and Charger is pretty heavy car  :shruggy:

After two starts I decided to try to increase my ignition advance. I had something 14-15 degrees BTDC (total 34-35 degrees), and I increased it 2 degrees. So now I have something like 16-17 degrees BTDC (total 36-37 degrees). It did help a little, in third try I got 14.6s / 97mph, but still that 60 feet time was 2.5 s  :brickwall: If I could get it to somewhere 2.2 s or less, then it would be close to drive it to high 13´s. But it didn´t happen this time. I don´t want to drive with slick rear tires because I want to to know where this is capable in full street condition  :icon_smile_wink:

I used also RWHP calculator that shows RWHP from 1/4 mile trap speed and it tells that I have something like 292 RWHP, that makes something like 350-360 from flywheel.

Well, I´m still pretty satisfied to it, because now I have some facts what my Charger can do in 1/4 mile. Next summer I WILL drive it to mid 13´s, I´ll have to practise starts and of course I need more power and traction. I was thinking that first things that I´m going to do, is get decent air filter to it like this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-3030/ and buy those 10x15" Magnum 500 rear wheels http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WVI-54501205/ with Cooper etc 295/50 rear tires. Then I´ll hope I have little more power and much more traction. But I don´t think that those are enough to get it to mid 13´s, maybe with good luck very low 14´s or high 13´s.

I´ll change that original Magnum aircleaner setup to K&N X-Stream Air Flow setup because I think, that original Magnum air cleaner setup is pretty bad getting enough air to engine because it is so "closed", what do you guys think of it??  :shruggy:

Maybe I´ll change also my original iron intake manifold to some performance aluminium intake. Any ideas which intake would be good in mostly cruising use but also in performance? I would really LOVE to put some dual tunnel ram to it with 2x450cfm carbs, I mean something like this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-03-0178/  but I quess that my almost original 440cid Magnum would "drown" with it? Don´t know. And how bad is those tunnel rams in street use?  :scratchchin:

And of course, I appreciate any tips to get my Charger go with mild modifications to mid 13´s  :cheers: I know that ProCharger etc would help me a lot with this so you don´t have to tell me that  :icon_smile_wink: But right now I would like to go without superchargers, turbos or NOS because my previous Camaro was supercharged and there are always own problems with those setups...  :slap:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on August 26, 2010, 11:25:55 AM
I thinked again and I decided to get this kind of street scoop http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MRG-6658/?rtype=10 to my Charger, this would look mean when it comes through hood  :drool5: And another good thing is that then engine will get cold air and it gives more hp...  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 11:42:55 AM
 Please would you leave it alone and either get a proper 426 HEMI or take the damn HEMI emblems off the doors, i would also remove the chromed R/Ts - or the stripe - and possibly the pinstripes, though i think the pinstripes are kinda' cool actually.
in other words, please don't ruin a hood for that bolt on crap...  :shruggy: If ya do punch a hole in the hood for that cheap lookin scoop you might as well paint the entire grill assembly flat or better yet gloss black... as per your original plan.  :lol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on August 26, 2010, 12:35:27 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 11:42:55 AM
Please would you leave it alone and either get a proper 426 HEMI or take the damn HEMI emblems off the doors, i would also remove the chromed R/Ts - or the stripe - and possibly the pinstripes, though i think the pinstripes are kinda' cool actually.
in other words, please don't ruin a hood for that bolt on crap...  :shruggy: If ya do punch a hole in the hood for that cheap lookin scoop you might as well paint the entire grill assembly flat or better yet gloss black... as per your original plan.  :lol:

Yes I will change those Hemi emblems to 440 or R/T emblems in next winter, don´t worry  :rofl: And I really won´t remove chromed R/T´s, stripe or pinstripes, this is R/T clone car so I´ll let those be as those are....  :D

I wasn´t going to ruin my original hood, I´ll get fiberglass hood for that  :icon_smile_wink: And don´t be so "tight" with this, this is still my own Charger  :2thumbs: And don´t worry, I won´t do anything to it that can´t be undone if necessary...  :D

I won´t get Hemi engine but I´ll start build new over 500cid engine to it some day...  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
 I'm just tryin' to help, I've loved these cars since '66 when I was 9 and have very strong feelings for them,.. they are somewhat more than just "inanimate objects" or "cars" to me... I understand there's a learning curve and you have your own ideas but that cars is pretty darn sweet and I hate to see it all gussied up with silly do dads,...
 
(says the man with faux tiger skin seat covers)  :lol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on August 26, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
I'm just tryin' to help, I've loved these cars since '66 when I was 9 and have very strong feelings for them,.. they are somewhat more than just "inanimate objects" or "cars" to me... I understand there's a learning curve and you have your own ideas but that cars is pretty darn sweet and I hate to see it all gussied up with silly do dads,...
 
(says the man with faux tiger skin seat covers)  :lol:

Like I said, I´ll do what ever I want to it, but I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone. I won´t ruin this car, believe me..  :D

If someone want´s to stop me doing what I want, I can sell this Charger for $50.000  :icon_smile_wink:

I know Brock that you love these cars, so do I and that is the reason why I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone.

I tried to search picture of ´69 Charger with that kind of street scoop but I didn´t find  :slap: Does someone have that kind of picture, I would like to see how it looks before I buy that scoop and fiberglass hood  :scratchchin: If it sucks, I´ll buy just that K&N airfilter and do nothing to hood  :hah:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: LUMI on August 27, 2010, 07:05:04 AM
this is near us  :yesnod:
http://rpglasfiber.com/
they have fiberglass hoods to Chargers and scoops too
dont know the quality
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: jb666 on August 27, 2010, 08:03:08 AM
Quote from: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
I'm just tryin' to help, I've loved these cars since '66 when I was 9 and have very strong feelings for them,.. they are somewhat more than just "inanimate objects" or "cars" to me... I understand there's a learning curve and you have your own ideas but that cars is pretty darn sweet and I hate to see it all gussied up with silly do dads,...
 
(says the man with faux tiger skin seat covers)  :lol:

Dude your passion for these cars inspires me  :cheers:

Charger'69 -- Great picture!! I look forward to seeing more. It looks like you have some beautiful scenery over there!!!!  :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: PPRCuda on November 09, 2010, 01:59:57 AM
Quote from: LUMI on August 27, 2010, 07:05:04 AM
this is near us  :yesnod:
http://rpglasfiber.com/
they have fiberglass hoods to Chargers and scoops too
dont know the quality

Anders from RP makes good products. I was there last week and bought two 1964-1967 HEMI Scoops.

http://www.paalupaikka.com/galleria/albums/userpics/hemiscoop2.jpg

Rgds Pepe

PS. For good traction you need set of M/T ET Street tires. 295/50-15 compared to your current tires doesn't make noticeable different.

http://pprcuda.blogspot.com
http://pprcharger.blogspot.com
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 04, 2011, 01:26:43 AM
I haven´t wrote here for a long time so maybe little update  :yesnod:

Well, now is winter here in Finland and Charger had been in my warm garage. I haven´t done anything to it, just planned some things in my mind. Last summer I drove something 1500 miles and it worked pretty much great after that charging and starting problems got solved.

Before summer I think I´ll get those 295/50-15 rear tires to it and maybe better aluminium intake manifold, and maybe that K&N airfilter ( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-3030/ ). Some minor fixing I´ll do also but nothing big I think.. My friend has new BFG 295/50-15 tires, so maybe I´ll buy those, or Cooper Cobras because those are pretty cheap in www.rengas-online.com. And then just drive and burn rubber  :cheers:

I did something little week ago, I washed dust off and waxed it and wheels with Auto Glym red wax one time. Now it shines again  :drool5: And yesterday I checked my engine´s codes, there was these codes: E 440, 5-26, HP2.

Here is picture from my garage when I waxed it week ago, it´s so easy and fast to wax when car is on autolift  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 04, 2011, 01:28:37 AM
... And here is nice picture from last summer  :icon_smile_tongue:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Blakcharger440 on February 04, 2011, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on August 26, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
I'm just tryin' to help, I've loved these cars since '66 when I was 9 and have very strong feelings for them,.. they are somewhat more than just "inanimate objects" or "cars" to me... I understand there's a learning curve and you have your own ideas but that cars is pretty darn sweet and I hate to see it all gussied up with silly do dads,...
 
(says the man with faux tiger skin seat covers)  :lol:

Like I said, I´ll do what ever I want to it, but I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone. I won´t ruin this car, believe me..  :D

If someone want´s to stop me doing what I want, I can sell this Charger for $50.000  :icon_smile_wink:

I know Brock that you love these cars, so do I and that is the reason why I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone.

I tried to search picture of ´69 Charger with that kind of street scoop but I didn´t find  :slap: Does someone have that kind of picture, I would like to see how it looks before I buy that scoop and fiberglass hood  :scratchchin: If it sucks, I´ll buy just that K&N airfilter and do nothing to hood  :hah:

By all means have fun with your Charger and do it like you want it. I am sure whatever you do can be undone when you want to. Life is too short not to have fun when them. Congrats on the good looking Charger!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 04, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Blakcharger440 on February 04, 2011, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on August 26, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on August 26, 2010, 12:47:18 PM
I'm just tryin' to help, I've loved these cars since '66 when I was 9 and have very strong feelings for them,.. they are somewhat more than just "inanimate objects" or "cars" to me... I understand there's a learning curve and you have your own ideas but that cars is pretty darn sweet and I hate to see it all gussied up with silly do dads,...
 
(says the man with faux tiger skin seat covers)  :lol:

Like I said, I´ll do what ever I want to it, but I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone. I won´t ruin this car, believe me..  :D

If someone want´s to stop me doing what I want, I can sell this Charger for $50.000  :icon_smile_wink:

I know Brock that you love these cars, so do I and that is the reason why I won´t do nothing that can´t be undone.

I tried to search picture of ´69 Charger with that kind of street scoop but I didn´t find  :slap: Does someone have that kind of picture, I would like to see how it looks before I buy that scoop and fiberglass hood  :scratchchin: If it sucks, I´ll buy just that K&N airfilter and do nothing to hood  :hah:

By all means have fun with your Charger and do it like you want it. I am sure whatever you do can be undone when you want to. Life is too short not to have fun when them. Congrats on the good looking Charger!  :2thumbs:

Thanks!!  :2thumbs:

Of course I´m going to do to it what ever I want, last time when I looked at the title there was my name on it  :icon_smile_wink: And I always think twice before I do anything to it, so when I actually do it I´m pretty sure about what I´m doing. Some ideas that I have wrote here has gone away but new ideas comes all the time.

I really build this Charger only for my purposes and I don´t think that all Chargers should look the same. But I´ve noticed that -68-70 Chargers are almost perfect like those are, so it is hard to innovate something that makes it even better  :rofl:

Just now I´m looking for proper performance aluminium intake to this combination, I think it is Edelbrock Performer or RPM intake that I´m going to buy. It would be nice to get some more horsepower before every summer. And I´m fixing some minor things, nothig big though. And maybe I´ll remove mufflers from it and use straight pipes, that is easy to try, I don´t know will it come too loud then because it is pretty loud already, but maybe I try it anyway..  :P
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: jeryst on February 04, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
I dont think you will like the sound if you use just straight pipes.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 04, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: jeryst on February 04, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
I dont think you will like the sound if you use just straight pipes.

Maybe I´ll try still, it takes maybe 1-2 hours from my life when I get mufflers off that I can test it  :D But I think so too that it will come too loud. Seriously best would be electric cut outs like these: http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/index.php , if you sometimes want it be very loud and get maybe some more power you could just press the button to open exhaust. But this isn´t so important right now..
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: 67440chrg on February 05, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
 Im haveing a few beers and reading about your car. I think it looks and sounds great. Dont worry about others who want to coment about what you do to it. By the way it sounds you love it too much to do it harm. I have heard a few talk at cruises about what I have done to mine and I dont even take the time to tell them that I used a salvage yard hood and saved the original. I used to not like to hear about old muscle cars leaving there home land but hearing how much someone like you loves and cares for them it is ok with me now.Have fun take care.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 05, 2011, 02:41:09 AM
Quote from: 67440chrg on February 05, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
Im haveing a few beers and reading about your car. I think it looks and sounds great. Dont worry about others who want to coment about what you do to it. By the way it sounds you love it too much to do it harm. I have heard a few talk at cruises about what I have done to mine and I dont even take the time to tell them that I used a salvage yard hood and saved the original. I used to not like to hear about old muscle cars leaving there home land but hearing how much someone like you loves and cares for them it is ok with me now.Have fun take care.

Thanks and nice -67 Charger  :2thumbs: Love the colour! And you´re right, I really love this car so much that I wont do any harm to it :angel:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Bob T on February 05, 2011, 05:29:13 AM
Good thread Charger'69 and a great looking car. Well done , what a good find and sounds like you are really enjoying it , good to hear ,

Quote from: 67440chrg on February 05, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
Im haveing a few beers and reading about your car. I think it looks and sounds great. Dont worry about others who want to coment about what you do to it. By the way it sounds you love it too much to do it harm. I have heard a few talk at cruises about what I have done to mine and I dont even take the time to tell them that I used a salvage yard hood and saved the original. I used to not like to hear about old muscle cars leaving there home land but hearing how much someone like you loves and cares for them it is ok with me now.Have fun take care.

Yep, we love em down in the Southern Hemisphere as well, we take good care of em, drag them hard, polish them up and cruise round with the family in. Beats the Hell out of any other brand  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 05, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Thanks Bob T!!  :cheers: And YES, I´m really enjoying this Charger very much  :drool5:

I found interesting cold air intakes from Jegs, does anyone have one in Charger?  ::)

http://www.jegs.com/p/Spectre/Spectre-Muscle-Car-Cold-Air-Intake-Kits/1297515/10002/-1

That would give some pretty cheap horsepower when engine gets colder air and without cutting hood or/and using scoop  :2thumbs: I think I buy that Edelbrock RPM intake manifold. I haven´t decided yet for sure, other choices are Mopar M1 and Edelbrock Performer. But RPM sounds good, it is pretty good dual plane intake and maybe it works better than single plane intake manifold (like Mopar M1 is) on my engine and that RPM intake was also recommended to my engine in our Finnish mopar forum.

Now I´m thinking that would I buy that kind of cold air intake also, because it isn´t much more expensive than that K&N X-Stream that I before was looking. And it would give some more horsepower and it is easy to install. I don´t know how nice looking that cold air intake is but it is other story.. With decent parts I think it could look pretty ok  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger-Bodie on February 05, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
Hey, I have a couple photos of you car at a nearby all Mopar show from a few years ago.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 05, 2011, 09:20:36 PM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on February 05, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
Hey, I have a couple photos of you car at a nearby all Mopar show from a few years ago.

VERY interested!!  :2thumbs: Could you email me those or you can add all those to this topic also  :drool5:

By the way, do you know this previous owner or something of this car? If you do, I would be interested to hear  :drool5: And if you have contact info (email) to my Charger´s earlier owner I´m interested of that also, I would love to hear some history of this Charger  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: shart70rt on February 05, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
First time I have looked at this thread. Inspiring that a long distance sale went so well, and that you were able to enjoy it immediately.

One of the previous posts suggested shooting some nitrous to help with power - might be a real good idea. Sounds like you are getting good plans to help launch quicker, and nitrous might be an inexpensive way to drop to the mid or low 13's by applying the extra power after you are already hooked up. As far as $ per horsepower gained, hard to beat it. Sounds like you have a solid motor, so as long as you don't go wild on the juice, should handle it fine.

I visited Helsinki and Tamperi in February 8 years ago, man was it cold. Busted my butt on icy sidewalks several times (sometimes aided by a bunch of that excellent Koff beer).

Great posts, and keep enjoying it. I intend to have my 70 back on the road this summer.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Quote from: shart70rt on February 05, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
First time I have looked at this thread. Inspiring that a long distance sale went so well, and that you were able to enjoy it immediately.

One of the previous posts suggested shooting some nitrous to help with power - might be a real good idea. Sounds like you are getting good plans to help launch quicker, and nitrous might be an inexpensive way to drop to the mid or low 13's by applying the extra power after you are already hooked up. As far as $ per horsepower gained, hard to beat it. Sounds like you have a solid motor, so as long as you don't go wild on the juice, should handle it fine.

I visited Helsinki and Tamperi in February 8 years ago, man was it cold. Busted my butt on icy sidewalks several times (sometimes aided by a bunch of that excellent Koff beer).

Great posts, and keep enjoying it. I intend to have my 70 back on the road this summer.

Yes I´m satisfied to how everything did go with this sale. But You can believe that I saw several nightmares during that time when Charger was coming here to Finland  :rofl: But lucky me, everything did go well  :2thumbs:

And yes, I know that nitrous would help me and it is cheap, but I hate nitrous, I don´t know why, maybe I have seen too much Fast & Furious "Toyota nitrous" movies and after those I´m not going to never go to nitrous  :RantExplode: :smilielol:

Someday I might add 8-71 blower or ProCharger supercharger, maybe even twinturbo but never nitrous. I don´t want to get to the situation, that I don´t have all power usable because bottle is empty  :icon_smile_wink: And here in Finland nitrous aren´t even street legal but you can add blower, supercharger or turbos legally. In street, nitrous bottle would have to be disconnected if you want drive it on street with nitrous system in your car. And IMO that would be kind of embarrassing if You have nitrous but still your car does only 13's in quarter mail  :shruggy:

And that´s nice to hear that You have visited here in Finland, so you know how cold here is  :rofl: Next time taste also Karhu (means bear in english  :icon_smile_big: ) and Sandels beer when You come here, those are even better than Koff in my opinion..  :2thumbs: And good luck to your project, get that 70 back on the road and enjoy that great feeling that you can get with these cars!!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: shart70rt on February 05, 2011, 11:24:14 PM
I have always felt the same way about nitrous, and have never used it, but with older age, you start to accept things as inevitable. Not being street legal kind of puts a crimp on it too.

Have tried to buy some good Finnish beer here in the states, with no luck. I am able to get a decent Russian beer, called Baltika, that comes in quite a few different variants. Like the Koff 4 or 5, it will knock you for a loop with the high alcohol content. Drink less, and be happier.

440 is coming out of my Charger tomorrow, and will start some engine bay modifications before installing the 500 inch beast. I am adding an air conditioner from Classic Air (Texas Gulf Coast is miserably hot in summer), and a Be Cool Radiator system. I am going to take the time to upgrade the electrical while the engine is out.

Installed the overdrive conversion set to my 833 4 speed from Passon Performance for driving pleasure, and am looking forward to hitting the road again.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 17, 2011, 10:58:57 AM
Well I´ve decided to get that Edelbrock Performer RPM intake manifold. Now one question: does that RPM intake fit under original hood with Holley Street Avenger 670cfm and K&N X-Stream airfilter that is 3" height (dropped base distance 1.25" -> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-66-3040/ )..?  :scratchchin: Or should I buy only 2" high airfilter? Hope not...

It´s pretty tight place, RPM intake manifold is something almost 2" higher than that original Magnum iron intake.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Piston_Freddy on February 19, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
If you really want to make "more power" then a 750CFM would be minimum. Nice ride btw!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 20, 2011, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: Piston_Freddy on February 19, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
If you really want to make "more power" then a 750CFM would be minimum. Nice ride btw!

Thanks  :cheers:

But I don´t understand why would I need that 750cfm if I really want to get more power. Of course in some point it is necessary, but I don´t think that right now it would give me so much more horsepower, maybe 10hp? Or something like that.

This is a good test, "Size Matters / Power-Testing Seven Holley Carbs".

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0403_seven_holley_carbs_test/index.html

When they use carb that is right size to that engine (if calculated with carb calculator), they get almost all power out from that engine that can be gained. After using bigger and bigger carb they got only few hp extra.

I think that this almost original 440cid Magnum engine isn´t even near race engine with VE 100%, not even then when I get that RPM intake and better aircleaner. I quess it is more something like VE 80-85% and if I don´t rev engine over 6000rpm that 670cfm should be enough big carb to this engine. carb calculators says that and there are several tests that show that bigger carb isn´t always so much better that it is must to get. At this point, I think I lose max 10hp if I don´t update my carb to 750-850cfm carb. I can live with it  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Weld ProStar*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 21, 2011, 02:47:43 PM
Today I tested new "shoes", Weld ProStar front: 8x15" bs 3.75" with 225/60 tires and rear: 10x15" bs 5.5" with 295/50 tires.

Pretty tight it seems to be rear!!!  :o Something 1cm to spring leafs etc. Will those rub in some situation? I can´t test that because now is winter here.

Here are some poor quality pictures, I take better photos tomorrow when I drive Charger out of garage.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 12:25:07 PM
... So I bought those new wheels, I started to like those when I drove Charger out of garage  :cheers:

So today I bought these:
- Weld ProStar 8x15"/10x15" wheels with 225/60 & 295/50 tires
- Edelbrock Performer RPM intake manifold
- K&N X-Stream 3" high airfilter (dropped distance 1.25")
- Holley jets (set #64-99)

So maybe those are enough for this summer  :Twocents:

Now I have set of Magnum 500 wheels with BFG tires to sell (if someone here in Finland is interested to buy those). Wheels and tires are like new!! I think those are 2-3 years old. Here are some pictures of those:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Weld ProStar!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 12:26:29 PM
And some pics from Charger with new wheels  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 12:27:36 PM
... Sorry, one more!!  :shruggy: :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger-Bodie on February 22, 2011, 12:46:18 PM
I like the Magnums better.  :Twocents:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on February 22, 2011, 12:46:18 PM
I like the Magnums better.  :Twocents:

I understand, I couldn´t decide which one was better looking because I like both very much but Welds won because I got now wider rear wheels with wider tires and those wheels come more "out" from fenders so....  :shruggy: These aren´t so hard to change if I decide some point otherwise  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: bullit68 on February 22, 2011, 01:31:05 PM
very nice charger!i like the new wheels,and they are much lighter than the magnums which should translate into better all around performance.what rearend gears are you running?if they are 323's,changing to 355 or even 391's would really help with acceleration.its a simple swap to try,just buy a complete chunk.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 02:00:47 PM
Quote from: bullit68 on February 22, 2011, 01:31:05 PM
very nice charger!i like the new wheels,and they are much lighter than the magnums which should translate into better all around performance.what rearend gears are you running?if they are 323's,changing to 355 or even 391's would really help with acceleration.its a simple swap to try,just buy a complete chunk.

Thanks! Rearend gear is already 3.55  :2thumbs: And I think it is best for me, can drive highway and pretty good acceleration.. Eventhough could be better but maybe I´ll try to get some more horsepower instead of increasing rearend gear ratio..  :icon_smile_wink:

And this Charger´s main purpose is to work as a fun street/cruising car in good weather so quarter mile times isn´t the most important thing at all  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: LUMI on February 22, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
Nice wheels i have had those front ones in my charger last summer ;)
it woud be even better looking if you drop the rear suspension a little bit :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: LUMI on February 22, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
Nice wheels i have had those front ones in my charger last summer ;)
it woud be even better looking if you drop the rear suspension a little bit :icon_smile_big:

Thanks but ass will be as high as it is now  :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: It´s too tight ass to drop and this is nice 80´s stance, I like...  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: LUMI on February 22, 2011, 03:27:21 PM
OK but the you must lift it a bit  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 11:50:37 PM
Quote from: LUMI on February 22, 2011, 03:27:21 PM
OK but the you must lift it a bit  :rofl:

If those rear wheels rub to inner fenders I´ll do that  :rofl: Then it´s real 80´s style "Hottentotti" like we say here in Finland  :hah: Well really, I won´t..

Those tires would look much better if there was white letters, damn, do I have to paint them or change all tires to Mickey Thompson or Cooper Cobra...  :scratchchin: Maybe I´ll try paint tires letters, don´t have money right now to change all tires just for to get white letters  :brickwall: :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *More Power!!*
Post by: Bob T on February 23, 2011, 03:13:47 AM
Looks cool without being too over the top chromeoids  :2thumbs: probably will notice the less weight on takeoff maybe too.

Quote from: Charger´69 on February 22, 2011, 11:50:37 PM
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If those rear wheels rub to inner fenders I´ll do that  :rofl: Then it´s real 80´s style "Hottentotti" like we say here in Finland  :hah: Well really, I won´t..

Those tires would look much better if there was white letters, damn, do I have to paint them or change all tires to Mickey Thompson or Cooper Cobra...  :scratchchin: Maybe I´ll try paint tires letters, don´t have money right now to change all tires just for to get white letters  :brickwall: :icon_smile_big:


Try this then, a cheap fix , and looks real cool. One of the guys here made stencils and just sprayed em on for that 70's stockcar racer look, pretty effective

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271/
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 24, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
Well I sold those Magnum 500 wheels to my friend. Those went to Ford Torino GT -70  :coolgleamA:

And I´ve started to LOVE those Weld ProStars  :2thumbs: It took a while but YES, it was right decision to me, I got also those wider rear wheels with wider tires that I wanted.

Yesterday I assembled that K&N X-Stream 3" high airfilter with 1.25" dropped base. It was great, much lower (~1") than that Magnum airfilter setup. I just had to remove one cable bracket bolt that wasn´t even in use from Holley Street Avenger and that dropped base fitted like a glove!! I also noticed that I have 1" high "plate" (I don´t know what is that called in english) between original intake and carb. So I metered that my new Edelbrock Performer RPM intake is only ~0.5" higher than my current setup, and that K&N with dropped base is ~1" lower than Magnum airfilter setup, so I think I won´t have any problems to get new intake+airfilter setup below original hood. If I metered everything right, new intake+airfilter setup is actually a bit lower than current setup. And that´s nice to know  :2thumbs:

Now maybe next week I assemble that RPM intake and also new spark plug wire fastenings. And do some wheel cleaning and polishing, I do that same cleaning and fixing to engine-room. I think I also have to tune Holley again, I think it breaths much better now with new parts so maybe I´ll have to change jets to carb too, just in case I bought Holley jet set #64-99 that I can tune everything properly and get all power out that can be achieved now.

I wish it was a summer already that I could get that bad boy out and burn some rubber  :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: Well, maybe in 5-8 weeks roads are here dry and I can go cruising  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on February 27, 2011, 01:14:35 PM
Today I drove Charger out of garage and washed those Weld ProStars with Autoglym carwash soap and water. With those wheels came Mothers® Mag & Aluminum Polish can. I think I polish those wheels soon.. My friend said that I should polish those wheels with that Mothers stuff and then use Sinol to finish surface.

Do You guys know how I can get best result to nice shine that lasts? After polishing and using Sinol, can I use AutoGlym car wax (red + gold) to those polished aluminum Weld wheels to get best result? I think wax coating would protect better those wheels.

And here few picture, again, sorry, I´ll try to stop uploading these pictures so often  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Charger + model ;)*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 02, 2011, 08:51:39 AM
Today we shoot some photos (again), now with girl in picture also, these ones are taken by me. There was also a real photographer who took most of photos with professional lightnings + camera and he will edit etc. those pictures near future and maybe we see those some day here in Charger forum. I think he´s going to change backgrounds etc., we´ll see, we let artist to do his work like he wants to  :2thumbs:

But here are some I took with normal digital camera just for fun, models are my Charger & lovely girlfriend  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Charger & model*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 02, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
Few more  ;)
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: PocketThunder on March 02, 2011, 09:26:24 AM
I love how the Charger color really pops in the snow.  When i had a red 68 i would pull it out of the garage in the winter and the red color really came out at you with the full white background.   :2thumbs:

Oh and your girlfriend is easy on the eyes also..   :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: tan top on March 02, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
 :o  nice pictures !!  :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Brock Samson on March 02, 2011, 12:38:32 PM
 Great Pics! want more!  :drool5:
Reading this thread I don't see what gears your Charger has...  :shruggy: seems if you can optimise them maybe you can gain some better numbers,.. Your also sporting some extra weight with all that extra shiney stuff...  :angel:
So,.. When you gonna paint your grill black?..  :icon_smile_wink:
I'm glad your obviously so happy with your sweet - sweet charger.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: six-tee-nine on March 02, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
Where's the car in the black/white pictuers :D
I'd keep her (I mean both....)

Oh and this is proof that scandinavianchick are hot..... I hardly recognize my wife in that type of weather because when she goes outside the only thing left uncovered are her eyes  :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 02, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
PocketThunder: Yes, You are right! Red Charger looks pretty nice on white background  :2thumbs: At first I wanted black Charger but I´ve learned to live with this red one  :icon_smile_wink:

tantop: Thanks!  :cheers: I think so too. I´m not a good photographer, that is why we had today a REAL photographer and I just took some photos also and I thought that I put some of those here. We´ll see after few weeks how good photos that photographer took, if I get his permission I´ll put some of those here also. Those will be more or less photoshopped, he´ll try to change background etc. And those pictures are taken with professional equipment. Not like these with normal digital camera.

Brock: You asked, you got it! Here are two more pictures in colors. Those are nice too, but those black&white pictures was kind of different and nice so that why those earlier photos are black&white. And gears are 3.55, I think it reads somewhere here. And NO, I said almost year ago that I won´t paint grill black  :icon_smile_wink: I have many ideas in my head that dies when I think more, some I´ll do, like those new wheels, and some dies, like straight pipes, streetscoop, black grill etc. But there are some ideas that will come true before summer, nothing big but something that makes this a little bit different looking. I´ve noticed that it is REAL hard to invent things that improves Charger´s look, it is pretty perfect now  :coolgleamA: But have to try, just to be a bit different in a good way and without spoiling this treasure  :icon_smile_wink:

And here two more pics and in colors, one with girl and one without, damn, it looks better with girl  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 02, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on March 02, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
Where's the car in the black/white pictuers :D
I'd keep her (I mean both....)

Oh and this is proof that scandinavianchick are hot..... I hardly recognize my wife in that type of weather because when she goes outside the only thing left uncovered are her eyes  :smilielol:

Thanks! I´ll appreciate all these comments, nice that you all like these pictures  :cheers:

... And not ALL scandinavianchicks are hot, this one happens to be, just had to say that you won´t get wrong picture about scandinavianchicks  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 03, 2011, 04:06:46 PM
Today I lifted Charger up and took Welds off from it, took them to living room and polished them with Mothers® Mag & Aluminum Polish, those came out pretty nice  :2thumbs: Those are one year old wheels, but those needed polishing already. After polishing I used Sinol gel to finish wheels. I think it little make those less shining but it is suppose to protect that aluminum surface so I decided to do that to all wheels.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: six-tee-nine on March 04, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 02, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
this one happens to be

You lucky soab  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 04, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
 :cheers: The wheels look sweet!  I like them without white letters, but if you want 80's, that will do it.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 04, 2011, 05:25:24 PM
Quote from: BIGBLCK11 on March 04, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
:cheers: The wheels look sweet!  I like them without white letters, but if you want 80's, that will do it.

I agree  :2thumbs: And those look nice without white letters, I think so too, but next tires I´ll buy with white letters. I like that 80's look very much, with white letters  :icon_smile_wink: I really don´t know which one is better looking at the end, with or without white letters so maybe I burn first these tires and then change tires with white letters  :D These are new tires so I won´t change these just to get white letters.

Next mission is to change that RPM intake, maybe next week or week after that I have the time to do it.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: 67440chrg on March 04, 2011, 10:34:42 PM
The car looks great. I think you went with a good choice on wheels. She looks great and yes the car looks even better with her in the pictures. It is nice to see someone with soo much enthuseasum.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 05, 2011, 05:27:13 AM
Quote from: 67440chrg on March 04, 2011, 10:34:42 PM
The car looks great. I think you went with a good choice on wheels. She looks great and yes the car looks even better with her in the pictures. It is nice to see someone with soo much enthuseasum.

Thanks and by the way, you have NICE wheels too...!!  :2thumbs: :icon_smile_wink: Do you have more pictures of that '67 than these in Charger pic topic http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6.msg835157.html#msg835157 ??  :scratchchin: I´d like to see more, nice looking '67!!  :2thumbs:

And I am really enthusiastic about my Charger and -68-69 Chargers commonly, this is the greatest muscle car I´ve ever own, and this is THE car I always have been wanted since I was a little boy  :angel: The other one that I´ll have to get someday is Plymouth Cuda -72-74 with bigblock  :drool5: But still, Charger is best because it is so brutal.....  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: kingjoop on March 11, 2011, 12:24:08 PM
nice pics  :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 13, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
Now that photographer sent some of photoshopped pictures, I put one of those here. Better pics are still to come, but this was kind of cool even it´s heavily photoshopped picture :popcrn:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 04:19:15 PM
Fuck yeah, I assembled that Edelbrock Performer RPM intake and K&N X-Stream 3" high airfilter with 1.25" drop base. It was easy BOLT-ON, everything fitted and it started and idled so I´m feeling good  :coolgleamA: I think it revved much easier and quicker now when I floored it, maybe that intake is better than original  :icon_smile_wink: And it fitted under original hood. Now I go to sauna and take some beer  :cheers:

I´m sorry about pics quality, it´s poor because I took those with my mobilephone...  :eek2:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
take your phone with you and take some pictureas of your girlfriend in sauna too :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
take your phone with you and take some pictureas of your girlfriend in sauna too :yesnod:

:rofl: :rofl:

She is not here right now, BUT, don´t worry, I can send you my pictures in sauna  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Please dont do that :brickwall:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Please dont do that :brickwall:

Hey man, don´t say before you´ve seen my pictures.....   :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
well this this may come as a surprise, but  i am 100% hetero
and your girlfriend looks like i could change she to my Charger :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Piston_Freddy on March 19, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
You didn't want to block the exhaust crossover?
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: Piston_Freddy on March 19, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
You didn't want to block the exhaust crossover?

Should I have done it?  :shruggy: Now I know what you mean, those two holes that are middle. Now I remember that in that old valley pan those holes were blocked, I mean there was no holes at all at valley pan  :scratchch Should I get different valley pan, that kind where those are blocked? What that exhaust crossover does do, is it harmful? Fuck, I knew that this can´t be as easy as it was....  :eek2:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
well this this may come as a surprise, but  i am 100% hetero
and your girlfriend looks like i could change she to my Charger :yesnod:

I´ll have to think about it  :rofl: That´s pretty good offer  :smilielol: If we´re going to make that deal, will I have that new motor with also...?  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
are there those holes in the manifold if no no worry  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:22:12 PM

I´ll have to think about it  :rofl: That´s pretty good offer  :smilielol: If we´re going to make that deal, will I have that new motor with also...?  :rofl:


no no no no new motor on that deal :pity:
but i must have a testdrive first :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
are there those holes in the manifold if no no worry  :2thumbs:

I don´t remember?  :scratchchin: Is there those holes in Edelbrock Performer RPM?  :scratchchin: If I had to quess I would say no, but I really don´t remember...  :scratchchin:

And what comes to that deal, without that new monster motor, I won´t even consider  :rofl: :smilielol: But we´ll be in touch if you promise that motor too..........  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
are there those holes in the manifold if no no worry  :2thumbs:

I don´t remember?  :scratchchin: Is there those holes in Edelbrock Performer RPM?  :scratchchin: If I had to quess I would say no, but I really don´t remember...  :scratchchin:

And what comes to that deal, without that new monster motor, I won´t even consider  :rofl: :smilielol: But we´ll be in touch if you promise that motor too..........  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

in torker II there is no holes on intake

could we both have to testdrive before decision :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:43:05 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
are there those holes in the manifold if no no worry  :2thumbs:

I don´t remember?  :scratchchin: Is there those holes in Edelbrock Performer RPM?  :scratchchin: If I had to quess I would say no, but I really don´t remember...  :scratchchin:

And what comes to that deal, without that new monster motor, I won´t even consider  :rofl: :smilielol: But we´ll be in touch if you promise that motor too..........  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

in torker II there is no holes on intake

could we both have to testdrive before decision :icon_smile_big:


Hell, why not....  :smilielol:

I think Edelbrock RPM intake have those holes, look at here and use that 360 degree view: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7193/?rtype=7

You can see those holes...  :brickwall: But are those only connected to each other? And what does that do, does that only warm intake? Why the hell that valley pan seller didn´t say anything about that, that there are different kind of valley pans. That old that I removed had those holes blocked  :brickwall:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:47:48 PM
then you should have a valleypan without the holes
but how about that test drive :boogie:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: LUMI on March 19, 2011, 05:47:48 PM
then you should have a valleypan without the holes
but how about that test drive :boogie:

Let me know when that Charger is ready to drive and then I´ll ask what my girlfriend says about that  :smilielol: I´m afraid that I´m going to be beaten up...  :icon_smile_blackeye:

Why those holes are there? This is my first Mopar so I really don´t know.. Is those suppose to warm that intake and thats it? And are those exhaust crossover holes ONLY connected to each other, so that it doesn´t mess intake to all that black shit what comes from exhaust??  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Piston_Freddy on March 19, 2011, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:55:45 PM


Why those holes are there? This is my first Mopar so I really don´t know.. Is those suppose to warm that intake and thats it? And are those exhaust crossover holes ONLY connected to each other, so that it doesn´t mess intake to all that black shit what comes from exhaust??  :scratchchin:


Crossover is there to warm the intake,carb and gas.Pointless if you don't drive in winter. On a hot summer days, it might boil the gas and causing vapor lock.Also an 1/2'' spacier between intake and carb would be great way to cool things down!  I have an exhaust crossover on my SBC with Eddy C3BX intake that I blocked, this isn't just mopar thing.Yes the exhaust crossover holes are only connected to each other.No exhaust shit won't go to the intake or cylinders.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 07:16:39 PM
Quote from: Piston_Freddy on March 19, 2011, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 05:55:45 PM


Why those holes are there? This is my first Mopar so I really don´t know.. Is those suppose to warm that intake and thats it? And are those exhaust crossover holes ONLY connected to each other, so that it doesn´t mess intake to all that black shit what comes from exhaust??  :scratchchin:


Crossover is there to warm the intake,carb and gas.Pointless if you don't drive in winter. On a hot summer days, it might boil the gas and causing vapor lock.Also an 1/2'' spacier between intake and carb would be great way to cool things down!  I have an exhaust crossover on my SBC with Eddy C3BX inake that I blocked, this isint just mopar thing.Yes the exhaust crossover holes are only connected to each other.No exhaust shit won't go to the intake or cylinders.

Ok, so it won´t do much harm because those are connected only to each other... Well that gas boiling and loss of power because of warmer intake is big enough reasons to buy different valley pan gasket. Damn, why didn´t you guys mention this before I bought those parts  :RantExplode:  :icon_smile_wink: Even that parts seller didn´t say anything about that gasket that there are different kinds of those, that´s a bit odd because place where I bought all these parts is specialized to these kind of parts and they usually know everything what is needed and tells if there is this kind of differenses.

Well, I´ll have to call there and order that kind of valley pan gasket that has those exhaust crossover holes blocked. What gasket would be right to this then??

This is my normal luck  :brickwall: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: But I´m glad that I uploaded those pictures where that gasket shows also, if I didn´t have done it I wouldn´t get to know that there is different kind of gaskets (thanks Piston_Freddy!). And that would have been sad, because this kind of gasket costs me some horsepower and I want that all out from that engine, even it is only like 5hp like in this case I think... Maybe more! I can imagine that intake is much hotter when that exhaust crossover is in use, and it costs power. Well, it´s one hours job now to change it when done once already, so not so big disaster after all  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Some mods...*
Post by: Charger´69 on March 19, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
... And I also have to say that damn that old iron intake was heavy!!!  :drunk: I couldn´t believe how much heavier that was than aluminium intake that doesn´t weight actually nothing  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 21, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
Today I ordered that valley pan where those exhaust crossovers is blocked, I think it was Fel-Pro 1215  :scratchchin: Don´t know for sure that is it right gasket but I assume it is. Also I ordered Mopar racing oil filter and new gasket between carb and intake. Next I´ll have to buy Valvoline VR1 Racing oil and change oil/oilfilter and change that valley pan gasket, then it is ready for summer  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Brass on March 21, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
That should be the correct valley pan.  I had the same problem.  This is a good read:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,52284.0.html
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 23, 2011, 07:38:14 AM
Hey thanks Brass, that was interesting!  :2thumbs:

Yesterday I got new valley pan gasket, it was just the same kind than my old one that was there before intake swap. So it is right now. And it was this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FEL-1215/

But hey, why there are those 4 gaskets for ports? Should I use them or are those suppose to be some kind of "port matching help" (don´t know how to say what I mean, hope you understand)? I didn´t have any other gaskets there than valley pan when I took old intake off.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: bobs66440 on March 23, 2011, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 23, 2011, 07:38:14 AM

But hey, why there are those 4 gaskets for ports? Should I use them or are those suppose to be some kind of "port matching help" (don´t know how to say what I mean, hope you understand)? I didn´t have any other gaskets there than valley pan when I took old intake off.
Every situation is going to be different. Some say to use the pan only, some say the pan and one gasket or two or thick ones or thin ones...with sealer...without sealer. It depends on your intake and if the heads have been shaved or not. I ended up using one .030 fiber gasket on each side of the pan with Hi-Tack to hold them in place. I also put a bead of Ultra Black silicone on the end rails and corners. I also smeared a very thin coat of the silicine on the very inside sealing edges of the heads and gaskets, trying not to get it near the intake ports. That worked for me. It may not work for you. You have to test fit it with and without gaskets to see which will work.  :Twocents:

Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 23, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: bobs66440 on March 23, 2011, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on March 23, 2011, 07:38:14 AM

But hey, why there are those 4 gaskets for ports? Should I use them or are those suppose to be some kind of "port matching help" (don´t know how to say what I mean, hope you understand)? I didn´t have any other gaskets there than valley pan when I took old intake off.
Every situation is going to be different. Some say to use the pan only, some say the pan and one gasket or two or thick ones or thin ones...with sealer...without sealer. It depends on your intake and if the heads have been shaved or not. I ended up using one .030 fiber gasket on each side of the pan with Hi-Tack to hold them in place. I also put a bead of Ultra Black silicone on the end rails and corners. I also smeared a very thin coat of the silicine on the very inside sealing edges of the heads and gaskets, trying not to get it near the intake ports. That worked for me. It may not work for you. You have to test fit it with and without gaskets to see which will work.  :Twocents:



Ok, thanks for advice!  :2thumbs:

So I´ll go with no gaskets and no silicone, because in that old setup with iron intake was only used valley pan with no gaskets and no silicone. And that "wrong" valley pan that I got first, I installed it without nothing and put that RPM intake top of it and it worked, it idled and started good and I didn´t see any leaks.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 27, 2011, 09:25:49 AM
Today I swapped that "right" valley pan to Charger  :yesnod: It was that Fel-Pro 1215, now exhaust crossover is blocked like it should be if thinking max power  :2thumbs: Damn it´s easy job to do to Mopar, it took 1.5 hours including testing engine. I added a bit silicone to those corners of valley pan that are between tops and engine block. I didn´t use those four gaskets that came with valley pan because those wasn´t used at all with that original iron intake. When I was running engine it was HUGE difference at temperature in manifold, with that exhaust crossover in use you couldn´t touch intake manifold after one minutes engine was running, now it was only warm even it idled 5 minutes.

Oh, and few days ago I changed my daily driver (BMW 525TDSA) to this Chevrolet Sportside Silverado with Chevy 6.2 diesel engine  :2thumbs: Those winter wheels are ugly, but there are nice chrome wheels with tires with white letters for summer  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: bobs66440 on March 27, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
Good work on the engine...and nice truck!   :2thumbs:  Enjoy!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: chargermike on March 28, 2011, 07:11:24 AM
nice car. enjoy it. glad your keeping chargers alive around the world.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 31, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
Again we got some new photos that our friend had taken and photoshopped. These pictures are taken and photoshopped by Mika Vallineva. So, here is one of those again  :2thumbs: Charger´s paint looks pretty awesome in this pic...  :scratchchin: :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 31, 2011, 05:05:51 PM
 :2thumbs: Yeah, cool effect on the paint!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: tan top on March 31, 2011, 05:10:35 PM
 :coolgleamA: looks good  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on April 03, 2011, 06:19:59 AM
Thanks guys!  :cheers:

Here is snow melting pretty fast right now, I hope I´ll get to drive my Charger next week or after that  :2thumbs:

I changed summer tires to my truck yesterday, here is on pic of it  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on April 15, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
OMG, 1 hour ago I drove out my Charger from garage and did go cruising!!!  :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

I can´t describe this feeling, it was so f-(^*#g amazing!!  :cheers: And YES, there was more power and YES those 295 wide rear tires did burn easily and YES everything worked good and it didn´t even broke when I smoked tires several times  :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

I´m feeling that I´m in heaven, is this normal or am I some kind of retarded....?!?!?!!  :scratchchin: :shruggy:   ...........  :D :D :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on April 15, 2011, 10:49:56 PM
Nope, that's what it's all about! GOOD TIMES!!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on April 17, 2011, 09:10:53 AM
It was a great weekend!!!  :cheers: I went cruising with Charger many times and burned some rubber, washed and waxed my truck, washed and cleaned Charger etc.  :2thumbs:

I noticed that Charger needs minor carb adjustments.. When I floor it fast, it "thinks" a very short time before it starts to move like a maniac. It´s so short time that it is hard to notice, but some adjustments I got to do (?) that it revs always fast when I floor it. Should I change bigger jets (I think Street Avenger 670cfm has #65/68 jets if those aren´t changed ever), adjust vacuum secondaries opening or should I adjust primary power valve?

And of course some pics.... Again.....  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: tan top on April 17, 2011, 04:14:41 PM
 :scope: ..... :yesnod:.......... :drool5: nice  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on April 18, 2011, 07:17:18 AM
Thanks tan top!  :icon_smile_tongue:

Can someone help me with that carb issue?

"When I floor it fast, it "thinks" a very short time before it starts to move like a maniac. It´s so short time that it is hard to notice, but some adjustments I got to do (?) that it revs always fast when I floor it. Should I change bigger jets (I think Street Avenger 670cfm has #65/68 jets if those aren´t changed ever), adjust vacuum secondaries opening or should I adjust primary power valve?"

Do you guys think that I´ll have to change bigger jets? I think it gets a lot more air now because there are new intake (Edelbrock RPM) and new air filter (K&N X-Stream 14x3"). So bigger jets would make a little more power maybe..? And if that "thinking" would stop also with bigger jets.. That can be caused also from power valve if that is too small now. But they use same #65 power valve in 770cfm Street Avenger so I might try first those bigger jets.

But how big jets can I go..? Those are now #65/68 (if those aren´t changed before, that I don´t know). If I change those to #66/70 or should I go #67/71 or even bigger..? I want to increase primary jets just a little and secondary jets a little more, because I want highest mpg that can be achieved and increasing secondary jets a little more I can ensure that it makes as much power that it can make when driving WOT (means that AFR is somewhere 11.5:1-12.5:1 when driving WOT). And the carb is that Holley Street Avenger vacuum 670cfm.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2011, 02:14:19 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 18, 2011, 07:17:18 AM
Thanks tan top!  :icon_smile_tongue:

Can someone help me with that carb issue?

"When I floor it fast, it "thinks" a very short time before it starts to move like a maniac. It´s so short time that it is hard to notice, but some adjustments I got to do (?) that it revs always fast when I floor it. Should I change bigger jets (I think Street Avenger 670cfm has #65/68 jets if those aren´t changed ever), adjust vacuum secondaries opening or should I adjust primary power valve?"

Do you guys think that I´ll have to change bigger jets? I think it gets a lot more air now because there are new intake (Edelbrock RPM) and new air filter (K&N X-Stream 14x3"). So bigger jets would make a little more power maybe..? And if that "thinking" would stop also with bigger jets.. That can be caused also from power valve if that is too small now. But they use same #65 power valve in 770cfm Street Avenger so I might try first those bigger jets.

But how big jets can I go..? Those are now #65/68 (if those aren´t changed before, that I don´t know). If I change those to #66/70 or should I go #67/71 or even bigger..? I want to increase primary jets just a little and secondary jets a little more, because I want highest mpg that can be achieved and increasing secondary jets a little more I can ensure that it makes as much power that it can make when driving WOT (means that AFR is somewhere 11.5:1-12.5:1 when driving WOT). And the carb is that Holley Street Avenger vacuum 670cfm.

So, no one doesn´t even quess....  :shruggy:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Tilar on April 28, 2011, 03:42:22 AM
Could possibly be a distributor advance issue and not the carb at all. Maybe Ron or someone can chime in and give you some things to check.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2011, 04:45:32 AM
Quote from: Tilar on April 28, 2011, 03:42:22 AM
Could possibly be a distributor advance issue and not the carb at all. Maybe Ron or someone can chime in and give you some things to check.

Thanks, I know what you mean, but carb tuning ain´t distributor advance issue  :icon_smile_wink: Because I´m interested if someone knows what jet size would be good for this setup  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: elacruze on April 28, 2011, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 28, 2011, 04:45:32 AM
Quote from: Tilar on April 28, 2011, 03:42:22 AM
Could possibly be a distributor advance issue and not the carb at all. Maybe Ron or someone can chime in and give you some things to check.

Thanks, I know what you mean, but carb tuning ain´t distributor advance issue  :icon_smile_wink: Because I´m interested if someone knows what jet size would be good for this setup  :scratchchin:

Your tuning is very difficult to help with online because only you can feel it. It sounds not like a jet problem to me, more like a pump shot adjustment-if the engine never sneezes or stumbles, you may have too much pump shot. If you get a backfire or rough stumble, too little pump. only your spark plugs or a gas analyzer and dyno can tell if the jets are correct.

You may try adjusting the secondaries to open faster, the carb is small for your engine.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2011, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: elacruze on April 28, 2011, 07:41:07 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on April 28, 2011, 04:45:32 AM
Quote from: Tilar on April 28, 2011, 03:42:22 AM
Could possibly be a distributor advance issue and not the carb at all. Maybe Ron or someone can chime in and give you some things to check.

Thanks, I know what you mean, but carb tuning ain´t distributor advance issue  :icon_smile_wink: Because I´m interested if someone knows what jet size would be good for this setup  :scratchchin:

Your tuning is very difficult to help with online because only you can feel it. It sounds not like a jet problem to me, more like a pump shot adjustment-if the engine never sneezes or stumbles, you may have too much pump shot. If you get a backfire or rough stumble, too little pump. only your spark plugs or a gas analyzer and dyno can tell if the jets are correct.

You may try adjusting the secondaries to open faster, the carb is small for your engine.

Yes I know.. I was just wondering that if someone have had or has same kind or near same kind of setup ('69 440cid Magnum, little more cam, HP exhaust manifolds, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake and carb size something 650-700cfm) that what jets were used, that I would have something to compare to my jets.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on April 30, 2011, 12:22:23 PM
Today we went cruising with Charger. It was so nice weather and all to just cruise around town...  :2thumbs:

I got Holley blue carb gaskets from my friend today, so next thing is that I change those jets. I´ll try first just increasing primary jets +1 and secondary jets +2, I think that should be enough when thinking that I only changed that intake and airfilter to better ones. I think those are now #65/68 and soon those will be #66/70.

I tested acceleration with G-tech today also. Just one time I accelerated and it was first very hard acceleration to this summer, start didn´t go well, but I was more interested about trap speed than nothing else. It went better than last summer according to G-Tech, trap speed was 101.8mph even I had extra weight in car almost 110lbs (my girlfriend  :icon_smile_big: ). So there is some more power now  :icon_smile_wink:

Last summer best trap speed with G-Tech was 100.2mph and in real drag race track 97mph with me only in car. Now with 110lbs extra weight G-Tech gave 101.8mph, and I haven´t even tuned carb at all after changing intake and airfilter. So little tuning and bigger jets and new try with me in car only hopefully gives even better trap speed  :2thumbs:

I got to drive this to somewhere mid to high 13's this summer, it is my goal. First race day is here in may, so not so long time when I´ll get to real track testing new setup. It is easier now to launch car to move, because I have those 10" wide rearwheels with 295 wide tires, much better traction now. But I think I would get much better times if I change torqueconverter to some higher stall converter, maybe something like 2400-2600rpm stall would be best to this setup. Now I have something below 2000rpm stall. And maybe that bigger carb would also give some more power, we´ll see. Maybe I´ll buy bigger carb also, I was thinking Street Avenger 770cfm, that Street Avenger type is now familiar to me so that is why I won´t change different kind carb.

But first race day in real track I drive with this 670cfm, because I wanna know how much better it´ll get with bigger carb later.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *It´s alive!! -> Carb tuning?*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 03, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Today I opened that Street Avenger 670cfm and checked those jets. Jets was already changed to bigger ones, primary jets was 71 and secondary 73, so those were quite big if thinking that Street Avenger 670cfm comes with 65/68 jets  :scratchchin:

Well, because it has worked so good before with those jets and with original intake and Magnum airfilter, I decided to change secondary jets to one size bigger because I´ve changed those RPM intake and K&N X-Stream airfilter so it gets much more air than before I think. So I didn´t touch to primary jets, I let those be that 71 size and I changed secondary jets to 74. I went testing it and it felt good, though I didn´t notice big difference. But I think it is sure that with this setup and those jets this ain´t lean in any case!  :scratchchin: Holley Street Avenger 770cfm comes with 72/75 jets, I have now 71/74 in Street Avenger 670cfm. I know that these Street Avengers are set pretty lean out of the box, but what do you guys think? Is my 670cfm carb now "overjetted"..?  :scratchchin:

I was thinking would it be better if I decrease jet sizes by two, from 71/74 to 69/72..? That would sound a bit reasonable than my current jets, I think those are quite big to 670cfm carb??  :shruggy:

But I didn´t notice black smoke or it didn´t smell awful, it just makes me wondering because Holley says You shouldn´t have to go bigger jets than +4, now I have both jets +6 bigger than how it comes "out of the box".
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2011, 08:12:14 AM
Well screw you guys, why you all had to say that I have too small........  :brickwall: :icon_smile_wink:

I couldn´t handle your comments, so I had to order bigger, carb I mean!!!!  :nana: Tomorrow I´ll get that new Street Avenger 770cfm, cool Barry Grant fuel lines and spring set also to adjust vacuum secondaries opening. First thing I do is I change primary jets 1 size bigger and secondary jets 2 size bigger because Street Avengers comes tuned lean, so a little step to richer AFR is reasonable. I think 770cfm comes with 72/75 jets, I´ll try first 73/77 jets. We´ll see how big nightmare is to tune that new carb even it should be driveable out of the box. I´m still just a beginner what comes to carbs, but I´m learning all the time. This ain´t much harder than playing with injected engines  :icon_smile_wink:

... And now, if you won´t help me tune this new 770 Street Avenger or say that I have now too small engine to that carb I´ll order injected 572cid Hemi to this, I´ll survive with injected engines on my own and then I won´t even have to remove those Hemi emblems from doors.....  :D :D :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: LUMI on May 04, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
just checked mine 102/104 if it helps :icon_smile_big: :nana:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: Brock Samson on May 04, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
I've been running the 770 on my 440 for ten years now, other then adjusting the idle up for a few days and then back down again ( to keep the Amp gauge charging + at stoplights) i haven't fiddled with it at all.. i have no complaints, hope you have fun screwin' around with yours...  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2011, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Brock Samson on May 04, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
I've been running the 770 on my 440 for ten years now, other then adjusting the idle up for a few days and then back down again ( to keep the Amp gauge charging + at stoplights) i haven't fiddled with it at all.. i have no complaints, hope you have fun screwin' around with yours...  :icon_smile_wink:

Yes, those will work pretty good usually out of the box. But I´m interested also to get max performance so it will need usually tuning, Holley carbs are tuned to be lean and if it´s lean it doesn´t make max power  :icon_smile_wink: It might be just right for maximun performance out of the box, but that is rare situation and usually it needs bigger jets to get right AFR / maximum performance.

So I´ll be "screwin' around" so long that it gets the highest trap speed and best ET in drag race track  :nana: It´s just not my thing to just bolt-on and drive when there is much potential to get so much more...  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: Back N Black on May 04, 2011, 01:52:51 PM
I have the 770 street avenger, its a good carb.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *ordered Street Avenger 770cfm*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 04, 2011, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Back N Black on May 04, 2011, 01:52:51 PM
I have the 770 street avenger, its a good carb.  :2thumbs:

I like it too, it´s pretty easy to adjust etc.  :2thumbs: What motor you have and what jets you are using..?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Street Avenger 770cfm bolted on!*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 05, 2011, 01:31:48 PM
So that Holley Street Avenger 770cfm arrived today, so of course I bolted it on immediately!  :2thumbs:

Before bolt on I swapped secondary jets one size bigger (75 -> 76) just for to be sure that it ain´t lean. Now there are 72/76 jets. That Barry Grant fuel line didn´t fit, those were wrong size those adapters that goes to carb. I used Holley´s own fuel line. I had problems with that also, primary fuel inlet didn´t want to start keep fuel inside lines, it dropped fuel. I had to tighten it pretty tight before it stopped dripping...  :RantExplode: Well now it doesn´t drip, but it gets wet some times still... Nice quality  :icon_smile_wink:

Then those both "fuel level windows" cracked, what a nice job to use needle to screw those off from carb...  :slap:

But after all disappointments, I went to cruising and it worked very nice! But I didn´t notice big differences to old carb. BUT, then I swapped that secondary vacuum spring to lighter one, to yellow, and went testing. DAMN, it waked up!!!  :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: It felt like a beast, it really got more power now. Beast is ready to track!!  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Street Avenger 770cfm bolted on!*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 08, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
I drove it few days and it worked amazing, but then something happened today... When we were cruising, amp meter started to do fast moves and soon there was smell like something was burning and amp meter showed that it won´t charge anymore. Well I checked under the hood, everything seemed to be OK but it didn´t charge at all. I was thinking voltage regulator first (I have that newer electronic VR model VR125), I changed that to new last year when that old went broken. I had second new VR so I changed that, but it charged just something 5-10 seconds and stopped charging again. Now I´m not sure did it broke 2 voltage regulators or is alternator just dead?  :shruggy: I took alternator off, brushes seemed to be fine, what else can go broken in alternator? I think alternator smelled like there was something burned. I have that newer 2 field alternator of course because this charging system is updated to electronic VR system.

I was just wondering that do I have to now order new alternator and new VR also, if it did broke both those voltage regulators that I have.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Alternator questions*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 09, 2011, 07:10:59 AM
Today I bought new alternator, it was 65amp alternator, that should be OK without burning wires??  :scratchchin:

It was excatly same kind like my old alternator, BUT there was missing GND-connection pin..? Old alternator had that GND-connection, it is connected to alternator´s chassis of course. Now that new alternator is connected, it is same kind dual field alternator than old one was. But now that wire that was connected to GND pin in alternator is unconnected, what is purpose of that wire? Do I need to connect it to alternator´s chassis or could I leave it unconnected? I think alternator gets GND connection just fine thorough two bolts that it is bolted on engine, I just wonder why there is that GND wire also in Charger´s wire set and in old alternator too, because this newer alternator doesn´t have that GND-connection pin  :shruggy: To where that GND wire goes and is it needed to be connected in alternator´s chassis?

I also bought new VR but old one seemed to work when I drove it 15 minutes today. But if it´s burned also it might start to fail in some point. I charged battery full last night, is it normal that charging voltage is 14.5V when it idles? Battery is full, alternator is new and I suppose that VR works like it should work. And it didn´t rise when I gave more rpm to engine, it was stable at 14.5V.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 09, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
Well now I know what that wire is... I don´t think that I need it, I started to follow that wire and other end was cut and taped  :rofl: Well, old alternator had connection terminal to other end of that wire though  :rofl:

I removed that wire, OMG, my Charger ain´t original anymore....  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: bobs66440 on May 10, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 09, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
OMG, my Charger ain´t original anymore....  :icon_smile_wink:
Not original!? You should sell it to me cheap now!   :2thumbs:  ;D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: bobs66440 on May 10, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 09, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
OMG, my Charger ain´t original anymore....  :icon_smile_wink:
Not original!? You should sell it to me cheap now!   :2thumbs:  ;D

Would $2000 be too much...?  :shruggy:





.......  :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 11:43:07 AM

Would $2000 be too much...?  :shruggy:

.......  :smilielol:

you got a deal
ill pick it up tomorrow :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 11:43:07 AM

Would $2000 be too much...?  :shruggy:

.......  :smilielol:

you got a deal
ill pick it up tomorrow :2thumbs:

Damn, did I put too low reserve because you didn´t even try to get it cheaper.......  :smilielol: I thought that this is 42 years old car, $2000 sounded more like high price  :hah:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 02:40:21 PM
it is only 1400€ :yesnod:
i´ll part it out and make a good profit :nana:
i hope you do not eat your words on this deal :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 02:40:21 PM

i hope you do not eat your words on this deal :icon_smile_big:


Ummm, what deal are you talking about....?  :scratchchin:


:hah: :D :nana:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 02:50:06 PM

Ummm, what deal are you talking about....?  :scratchchin:


:hah: :D :nana:
if you have dementia you can read few upper posts  :coolgleamA:
i think i just bought a cheap parts car :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 02:50:06 PM

Ummm, what deal are you talking about....?  :scratchchin:


:hah: :D :nana:
if you have dementia you can read few upper posts  :coolgleamA:
i think i just bought a cheap parts car :icon_smile_big:


That dementia isn´t really the biggest problem I have  :rofl:

But don´t worry, I have a '69 Charger just for you my friend and you can get it $2000 like I promised. It is 1:24 so you won´t need even a trailer for it  :nana:

PS. When we see that your '68 in action..? I´m waiting to see that monster in quarter mile  :drool5: This weekend is first drag race weekend in Pudasjärvi  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: flyboyedwards on May 10, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
I think I know that car.  It came from Richland Center, Wi.  A guy named Ernie owned it.  Nice car.


I know Ernie too, being from Richland Center, and it IS an AWESOME 69. I just heard that he shipped it away. I think it's the same car. IF it is, you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: LUMI on May 10, 2011, 11:18:25 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 10, 2011, 05:09:51 PM

Ummm, what deal are you talking about....?  :scratchchin:


That dementia isn´t really the biggest problem I have  :rofl:

But don´t worry, I have a '69 Charger just for you my friend and you can get it $2000 like I promised. It is 1:24 so you won´t need even a trailer for it  :nana:

PS. When we see that your '68 in action..? I´m waiting to see that monster in quarter mile  :drool5: This weekend is first drag race weekend in Pudasjärvi  :icon_smile_wink:

OK i allready have one red -69 do you take it for a trde   :rofl:

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p299/LUM-1/DSC09193.jpg)

still awaiting for gearbox to my 68 so no idea when rubber burns here :flame:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid + 727 ***Finnish Charger Enthusiast***
Post by: Charger´69 on May 11, 2011, 01:30:07 AM
Quote from: flyboyedwards on May 10, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on March 11, 2010, 05:28:01 PM
I think I know that car.  It came from Richland Center, Wi.  A guy named Ernie owned it.  Nice car.


I know Ernie too, being from Richland Center, and it IS an AWESOME 69. I just heard that he shipped it away. I think it's the same car. IF it is, you won't be disappointed.

I haven´t been disappointed in any point  :icon_smile_wink: I really would like to talk with Ernie about this Charger, could you please send me contact info to Ernie if you know him. Ernies Email address would be nice  :2thumbs:


LUMI: I can take that '69 for a trade  :rofl: I hope that gearbox comes soon!! It ain´t nice to just wait parts...
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 14, 2011, 04:47:33 PM
Today I was cruising Charger again few hours.. I noticed, that after that intake, airfilter and carb change it started to ping sometimes. Usually then when I floored it and it shifted to 2nd gear it started pinging. I did notice this week ago first time, but I haven´t had time to drive it much so I didn´t even remember that and today it pinged few times again. That didn´t do always that I think, or then I haven´t notice it every time.

Last fall in last drag race day I increased BTDC so long, that it got best trap speed. And I think it didn´t ping then ever. Now I checked that BTDC and it was something like 17 degrees BTDC, I decreased it to 12 degrees BTDC and now it doesn´t ping at all and I think it accelerates better now  :2thumbs: Don´t know if it is really lean in some RPM and pings because of that or was my timing advance far too much to my new setup. But with that old setup that 17 degrees BTDC wasn´t too much, max advance was something 36-38 degrees, now something 5 degrees less and it works.

How easily that pinging if that is happened several times do something damage to engine?  :scratchchin: Don´t know how easily these naturally aspirated engines gets damaged after some pinging, turbo and supercharged engines blows up easily if pinging starts  :o My friend said that these old mopar engines won´t damage easily if it pings sometimes, but do I have to be worried about something now because this has pinged several times?  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 15, 2011, 04:54:21 PM
Today I increased timing advance +2 degrees to BTDC 14 degrees, max timing is now 35 degrees I checked that also. That should be ok?  :scratchchin: It didn´t start to ping and accelerated nicely. That was odd that it started to ping sometimes with new carb, airfilter and intake. But I assume it is ok now. We´ll see.....
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 22, 2011, 01:15:04 PM
Well I´m not sure, but I think it pinged maybe one or two times when I floored it today when we was cruising. So I decreased that BTDC back to 12 degrees (max timing now something 33 degrees I assume). That should be safe now. I tested it several times and it didn´t ping at all. I´m not even sure is it pinging that I hear, some minor "clicking" sound there was. Now it´s gone so I think it is pinging.

Maybe I´ll change bigger jets to it also just to be sure that it ain´t lean in any case, I´ll increase +2 jet size to primary jets and +1 to secondary jets, so those will be then 74/77, those are now 72/76 (770cfm came with 72/75 jets). That pinging might be caused also if it is lean. Sparkplugs ain´t look bad, color is something like it should be so it is "close" to be just right.

Don´t know is it really that those new intake, carb and airfilter causes pinging or is it really caused by that new gasoline I use. We have had here last summer gas called "V-Power" and it´s octane is in our country +99. But this year Shell added to gasoline ethanol 5% (it´s name is now V-Power 99E5). I think that ethanol should increase octane, but if they changed that fuel in some other way also it might be worse and lower octane than it was in last summer  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *Now I´ll just drive it...*
Post by: bobs66440 on May 22, 2011, 05:04:25 PM
I think if the initial timing is between 10-12 deg BTDC and total is 35 or so (with vacuum advance disconnected), you should be good.  :2thumbs:

As far as there being damage from pinging...I don't know of any other than in extreme cases, you will put a big hole in one of the pistons. If you did that, I think you would know it.  :lol:

There shouldn't be any damage as long as you don't let it go on too long... :Twocents:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *History information!*
Post by: Charger´69 on May 24, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
Thanks a lot flyboyedwards  :cheers: He gave me Ernie´s email address and now I´ve been changing emails with Ernie who owned this Charger before me  :woohoo:

He told me that first owner owned this Charger 29 years, they bought the Charger new in Denver, Colorado U.S.A. They owned it 29 years, then first owners sold it to Ernies friend, who owned this something 1-1.5 years and then Ernie himself bought it from his friend and owned it 10 years before I bought this, so I´m the 4th owner of this Charger  :cheers:

Ernies friend who had bought this from first owners did the bodywork (put lower quarters both side trunkfloor and driver floor) and painted it (he does it for living). And then Ernie bought it. Ernie rebuild:
- suspension
- interior
- motor (HP2 engine that Ernie bought from his friend, it´s from '69 Police car that had 60000 miles on it)
- transmission (that is TF727 from '67 Dodge that had 40000 miles on it but it slipped, so it was rebuilded and shift kit was also added)
- brakes
- rear end (3.23 posie, I still think it is 3.55?)
- wheels
- radio
- windshield
- etc.

Engine got mild rebuild, because it had driven only 60000 miles and it was in good condition. Rebuild contained new cam and lifters ('69 440cid 6 pack cam+lifters!), cam bearings, frost plugs, timing chain + gears etc. And Ernie said about that paint "The paint is original R4 Red is what Dodge called the paint code, or Blood red looks orange in the sun looks red in the shade. It was a high impact special order color for 1969". And Ernie is a member of Mr. Norm´s car club, that is why there is Mr. Norm´s stickers.

Ernie promised to send me old photos from this great Charger, now I´m waiting those and asked few more questions from Ernie. It was great to hear this story from Ernie, so thanks Ernie and thanks flyboyedwards who made this conversation possible!!  :cheers: Now I´ll wait those pictures and more information  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 27, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
Today I swapped those primary jets +2 size bigger. Sparkplugs seemed pretty ok color before that, so there is a change that it is too rich now. Primary jets are now 74 and secondary 76, that 770cfm original jets from Holley was 72/75. So those are not much bigger jets now though. It started and idled good and didn´t smell awful rich even I didn´t touch to idle mixture screws.

Hopefully tomorrow doesn´t rain that I can go testing it  :drool5: Now here rains so Charger stays in garage...  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 30, 2011, 01:59:18 PM
Today I tested Charger.. Well, I think it didn´t need more gas like I thought, it felt "heavy" and didn´t idle as good as before, I even tried to adjust idle mixture but it didn´t get as good as with smaller jets. But sparkplugs seemed to be maybe even better looking with bigger primary jets, but it didn´t feel "right" and I think it accelerates noticable better with those smaller 72 primary jets and throttle response is much better. So I changed those 72 primary jets back to it and it felt better like that. So that Holley factory tune was pretty good like that. Well I have those one size bigger secondary jets there and I didn´t even try it with 72/75 jets but I let those 76 size secondary jets be there just to be sure that it won´t go lean in higher rpm.

So now there is again 72/76 jets and I think those are best to my setup. Next step to get more power is to add more cam, but that isn´t this summer´s job, maybe next winter I´ll change some little more aggressive cam to it. I red somewhere that 6-pack cam is same than original magnum cam, so there aren´t then any more cam than Magnum engine has like I was told. Well, that doesn´t bother me, now I know that if I change that cam to something more aggressive it get plenty more power....  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 07, 2011, 01:59:47 PM
Last summer I tried that MSD Blaster 2 coil, but it didn´t work properly with that original ballast resistor that I have in Charger.

Today I installed that MSD Blaster 2 coil (part no. 8202) again, now with MSD 0.8ohm ballast resistor (part no. 8214). Now when it idles, there is ~8 volts in MSD Blaster 2 coils "+" wire, is it right now? Or should there be 12 volts?  :scratchchin: I didn´t check how much it was with original coil and with original ballast resistor..

Oh, I have that newer kind ('70 up style) electronic ignition (Mopar Performance??) and dual field alternator, so those are updated if those does any difference when thinking those coil voltages...
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid *History information!*
Post by: tan top on June 07, 2011, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on May 24, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
Thanks a lot flyboyedwards  :cheers: He gave me Ernie´s email address and now I´ve been changing emails with Ernie who owned this Charger before me  :woohoo:

He told me that first owner owned this Charger 29 years, they bought the Charger new in Denver, Colorado U.S.A. They owned it 29 years, then first owners sold it to Ernies friend, who owned this something 1-1.5 years and then Ernie himself bought it from his friend and owned it 10 years before I bought this, so I´m the 4th owner of this Charger  :cheers:

Ernies friend who had bought this from first owners did the bodywork (put lower quarters both side trunkfloor and driver floor) and painted it (he does it for living). And then Ernie bought it. Ernie rebuild:
- suspension
- interior
- motor (HP2 engine that Ernie bought from his friend, it´s from '69 Police car that had 60000 miles on it)
- transmission (that is TF727 from '67 Dodge that had 40000 miles on it but it slipped, so it was rebuilded and shift kit was also added)
- brakes
- rear end (3.23 posie, I still think it is 3.55?)
- wheels
- radio
- windshield
- etc.

Engine got mild rebuild, because it had driven only 60000 miles and it was in good condition. Rebuild contained new cam and lifters ('69 440cid 6 pack cam+lifters!), cam bearings, frost plugs, timing chain + gears etc. And Ernie said about that paint "The paint is original R4 Red is what Dodge called the paint code, or Blood red looks orange in the sun looks red in the shade. It was a high impact special order color for 1969". And Ernie is a member of Mr. Norm´s car club, that is why there is Mr. Norm´s stickers.

Ernie promised to send me old photos from this great Charger, now I´m waiting those and asked few more questions from Ernie. It was great to hear this story from Ernie, so thanks Ernie and thanks flyboyedwards who made this conversation possible!!  :cheers: Now I´ll wait those pictures and more information  :drool5:



wow thats  great !!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Bob T on June 11, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Always good to hear that the engine had Upgrade work done on it - not just stock replacements.
Great to have contact with the previous owner too, a bit of history is always nice.

I only found a personalised pen from a previous Lady owner of my Charger when I pulled the seats out, probably had been under the carpet for the last 35 years  :lol: , but had a handfull of reciepts for trans etc  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 12, 2011, 01:47:55 PM
Who can help me with this coil issue?  :scratchchin:

I have that MSD Blaster 2 coil now there and 0.8ohm ballast resistor. When I use digital voltagemeter to check voltages, if I put voltagemeters gnd wire to Charger´s chassis gnd (for example to intake manifold) I get +7.6V from coils + connector and +3.0V from coil´s - connector. If I just put voltagemeters wires to coil´s + and - connectors, it shows 4.6V (well that comes from 7.6V-3.0V -> 4.6V). Is there something wrong? Should I find somewhere from coil that 10.5-12V...?  :brickwall: And why there is in coil´s - connector positive voltage (+3.0V)..? Please, somebody, tell me is there everything alright now  :popcrn:

I just want to be sure that my MSD Blaster 2 coil gets enough voltage to work properly and I haven´t found that 10.5-12 voltage from anywhere.. If it doesn´t go like this, that those coil´s - connectors 3V are summed to + connectors voltage that is 7.6V, then there would be that 10.6V. Help!!  :rofl:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 20, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
Some new photoshopped pics from photographer Mika Vallineva  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on July 02, 2011, 03:03:53 PM
Few new pics from today´s O.S.H.A. cruising  :cheers:

My friend had also "bolt-on" wideband lambda (VEMS) with him, so we bolted it to Charger and went testing. Air fuel ratio was great, when cruising low speed it was 14.5:1-15.3:1 so it was perfect. When WOT, it went a bit lean (>15.0:1 when it should go somewhere 12.0:1) when flooring it fast, so I need bigger "powervalve" or what is it called in Holleys. But when driving WOT, it got somewhere 3000rpm AFR 13.5:1 and +5000rpm AFR 12.0:1, so it´s just great! Only "problem" is, that when cruising +70mph, AFR is somewhere >12.0:1, so pretty rich. When cruising 50-60mph, it was somewhere 13.5:1 so that´s OK. I think that when I put that almost lightest spring to secondary vacuum side, it opens secondary too easily in over 65mph speed. Well, I could always change that harder spring there, but then I would lose power from mid range and I don´t wan´t to do that  :icon_smile_wink: Have to think something else or then I just let it be rich, it won´t do any harm, it ain´t that rich  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on July 14, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
Few days ago I bought another ´69 Charger, this Charger has blower also  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid "Got first place in car show"
Post by: Charger´69 on July 19, 2011, 07:57:33 AM
Last weekend here was cruising and outdoor car show called "Oulujärvi Cruising". Weather wasn´t best possible, it rained beginning of that day but we did go there because I had been waiting for that happening! There was 70 vehicles, my Charger got awarded and got first place!!  :cheers: It was a great day  :coolgleamA: And now I have a big trophy as a memory of that nice day :woohoo:

Now we are on a road trip with Charger. This is first time when I got it for a little bit longer trip. And we have FUN with it! There is no better feeling than cruise slowly with this kind of old muscle car, everywhere we go, this turns heads and gets thumbs up from people  :2thumbs:

Here is few pics from our trip that still continues. In third pic we are in our destination in country side. Like you see, Charger got dirty but I washed it immediately like last pic shows...  :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Bob T on October 29, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Sooo, any updates Bud? Shows or cruising pics 
Since I'm still car-less for another few weeks I need to look at pictures of other peoples cool cars  :icon_smile_big:

:cheers: Bob
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on November 07, 2011, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: Bob T on October 29, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Sooo, any updates Bud? Shows or cruising pics 
Since I'm still car-less for another few weeks I need to look at pictures of other peoples cool cars  :icon_smile_big:

:cheers: Bob

Yes I have, I just haven´t uploaded new pics for a while because I thought that you´ve guys seen enough already :icon_smile_big:

Now is winter coming so cruising is ended for this year now  :bawling: Now I´m waiting next summer and better cruising weathers  :cheers: I´ve been thinking now, that will I do any modifications to it in this winter. Definitely aluminium waterpump I will buy and maybe new, more aggresive camshaft?  :scratchchin: Otherwise I think I just polish it and fix some minor things.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on December 28, 2011, 06:11:43 AM
... Always when I think I don´t do nothing to car, I found something interesting what could be done  :rofl: Have anybody any experience about these MSD Atomic EFi systems? Seems pretty interesting and very simple fuel injection system  :scratchchin:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-2900/
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 12, 2012, 12:16:34 PM
Still waiting for summer, here one pic taken week ago when I drove it out from garage to get oxygen  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on April 28, 2012, 12:36:02 PM
Now roads are dry and some of those marked with my Charger´s rear tires.........  :2thumbs: Fuck yeah, great season is starting now when this hell machine is on the road again  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on December 24, 2013, 08:46:20 AM
Hello to all and MERRY CHRISTMAS!  :vert:

Long time since last update. Charger is still going very strong and is in better condition every year  :2thumbs: Still enjoying that as much than 4 years ago when I bought it. I haven´t had to do fix anything during last two years. But now I´ve been thinking about to install 8-71 blower to it some day. Let´s see what happens if suitable blower kit comes available  :scratchchin:

Now I´m also 100% Mopar man, I just bought just new daily driver, Chrysler 300C 3.0 CRD SRT Design 2010. Really cool daily driver here in Finland! And why not in everywhere  ;) I was searching new Challenger, but oldest one of those costs something like $90000 still in Finland, so it is way too expensive right now. But I´m loving this 300C, reasonable cost 4 door muscle car also in here :yesnod:

Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Ghoste on December 24, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
Congrats on the daily driver and thanks for the update.  Although I don't know about that 8:71?
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on December 24, 2013, 10:31:45 AM
Mmmmmm Thats good photoshop  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Bob T on December 24, 2013, 01:46:26 PM
Hey bud, been a while, good to hear the old Charger is still going well, I've done around 7000 miles since mine got here in Dec 2011, man, I know you guys must so look forward to driving the cool cars when the snow is gone.
Good score on the 300C .
Happy Christmas from NZ   :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: tan top on December 24, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
 :cheers:   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 05, 2015, 08:32:19 AM
Hello guys! It seems that I haven´t updated this topic again for a while  ::)

But Charger is fine, waiting again summer, there is still snow in Finland so I haven´t drove it a while. Charger is always in warm garage so it´s still as good as it was years ago. I haven´t done anything to it, only basic maintenance and of course some cruising on summer  :2thumbs:

I´ve been thinking of somekind of supercharger or fuel injection, I think I´ll have to do even something to it, otherwise this is too easy just to drive it  :icon_smile_wink:

Do you have any experience of this Edelbrock E-Street EFI fuel injection? It should be pretty easy to install, because you doesn´t have to do any changes to fuel lines or tank, there is that "fuel sump kit" available that is very innovative solution. I just red few articles of this, and it is kind of interesting. I mean this kit: http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/edl-3606/overview/

One thing I love on this old cars is that these are very simple, but now after few years driving this Charger with carburetor, I kind of miss that driveability that comes with good fuel injection. It might be that I just let it be with carburetor, it is so simple, but these new easy to install and self learning fuel injections come all the time more and more interesting  :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Challenger340 on March 05, 2015, 09:28:22 AM
Geezuz,  great looking Charger ! I really like the color  :2thumbs:
You should be proud.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 06, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 05, 2015, 09:28:22 AM
Geezuz,  great looking Charger ! I really like the color  :2thumbs:
You should be proud.

Thanks! I AM very proud  :cheers: (even at first I really wanted black/black '68  :D )

Here is one pic that my friend took last summer when I was cruising with my friends  :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 31, 2016, 07:23:49 AM
Hello guys! Life continues with Charger, I bought this 2009 so pretty much 7 years now we´ve been living together  :2thumbs:

I´ve noticed that this is that kind of car, where you won´t ever lose your interest. And last years have been great, just basic maintenance and cruising, that´s all. I´ve been searching 8-71 blower for this few months, that is something I will try in future. It´s an great cruiser now with a little bit over 400 horsepower and you can spin tires when you´re willing to, but it would be BEAST with blower. I know it´s not maybe the best solution to get more power, but this question is more like attitude question, there is nothing more beautiful than Charger with blower...  :2thumbs: But I think this is something I will do in next year or year after that or so, there is no any rush with this.

Do you guys have any experience about these MSD Ready to Run distributors? I could get one with a reasonable price, it´s 2 years old. I was just thinking that I still have original distributor with MSD Blaster 2 coil, that would it make any improvements to how engine response or makes power. I have also Performer RPM intake and Holley Street Avenger 770cfm on that 440cid Magnum, otherwise pretty stock.

PS. Here is "family picture", all of my Mopars together in sunny day  :yesnod: My daily driver is 300C Hemi and other "free time" car is Jeep Wrangler with 4.0 HO + auto tranny, week ago I took top and doors off from Wrangler so now it is very nice car in warm weathers  :coolgleamA: Charger is a little bit sad looking in this picture, lot of dust top of it after winter but it´s cleaned and shiny now  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Mikesmoparperformance on May 31, 2016, 09:37:33 AM
No Leave it as it! Or get a  second hood and cut that up.. For the look so you can go back to this :2thumbs:

A blower blocks your view of this beautiful hood! :drool5:

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh565/PhillKP/BlackDodgeCharger/DodgeCharger_02.jpg)
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: moparnation74 on May 31, 2016, 12:01:13 PM
IMO, I would NOT change a thing.....It already has the looks and attitude :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 01, 2016, 01:31:00 PM
Yes, you´re both pretty much correct, it´s almost perfect  :2thumbs: And of course I won´t destroy original hood, it need to be possible to return it back to like it is now if I don´t happen to like that blower. But it is still definately something I will try  :icon_smile_wink:

I won´t ever do nothing like that, that this isn´t anymore possible to return to current condition. Because, like you said, it´s perfect, I think that it is almost perfect...  :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: myk on June 01, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
Get a fiberglass hood if you want to cut one up.  Much easier to find and probably cheaper than trying to find an OEM hood you're going to destroy anyway....
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 02, 2016, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: myk on June 01, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
Get a fiberglass hood if you want to cut one up.  Much easier to find and probably cheaper than trying to find an OEM hood you're going to destroy anyway....

Yeah, of course fiberglass, it´s much cheaper also  :yesnod: But this might take some time, I´m searching used blower because this is more like experiment so no any stress with time schedules  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 19, 2016, 01:10:12 PM
I just got new MSD Ready-to-run distributor, let´s see if it´ll be a bit better than my original distributor. I´ve got some issues with this old distributor, engine seems to like 36-38 degrees spark advance WOT, but if it´s adjusted like that, it will knock somewhere 3000-4000rpm WOT sometimes. I had to adjust spark advance to 30 degrees to avoid knocking to be safe. I hope this new one will help this issue, and of course spark should be also stronger.

I have adjustment springs also, that I can try different ignition curves if basic setup won´t work. There is kind of big diffrence on engine power on higher rpm when spark advance is 36-38 degrees vs. 30 degrees..  :yesnod:

I´ve heard lot of things about these MSD ready to run distributors, but I like the idea that everything you need is integrated to distributor, no need for external ignition modules etc., only external ignition coil is needed  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 25, 2016, 07:24:30 AM
Yesterday was a very warm day here in Finland so we spended that day by cruising Charger  :2thumbs: This color looks pretty awesome when sun is shining  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: tan top on June 25, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
 :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :drool5:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on October 02, 2016, 04:44:27 AM
Winter is coming here in Finland pretty soon, so we did take our muscle cars for last ride and burned some rubber. This is my friends 1968 Ford Torino GT Fastback FE390cid and my 1969 Dodge Charger R/T 440cid  :cheers: I think this picture is awesome, I like it a lot!  :2thumbs: I hope you guys like it also  :yesnod:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:27:01 AM
Hello! It´s once again long time since I last updated this topic. Charger is still fine, and I think better than ever  :2thumbs:

Something what I´ve done to it during this year:
- Engine is better adjusted now than ever, there is much more torque now than before
- I changed those HEMI emblems from doors to R/T emblems
- Also I changed those valve cover gaskets that I already bought 7 years ago  :D

And I have some parts waiting for installation:
- New big aluminium radiator with 2 powerful electric fans and catch can
- MSD Ready to run distributor

Still searching 6-71/8-71 blower  :RantExplode:

Here is now few pictures from this summer, I haven´t had time to drive Charger much this summer because I bought back that Camaro Iroc-Z what I had 2003-2010 before this Charger and it have needed lot of time to get running well. At that time I had to sell Camaro that I could get this Charger. Last year I finally got opportunity to buy Camaro back and I did, this was great, because now I have them both  :2thumbs: I bought it without engine and installed carburated +400hp SBC 383cid stroker to it. Of course still Charger is the best always, but this my Iroc-Z was my first American car and it is in mint condition, you don´t see often as nice Iroc-Z as this is, lot of money used to it during years... It´s a street race car with almost all possible upgrades. It was a hard decision almost 8 years ago to sell it after all those years, I´m so happy that I had possibility to get it back and now also that is better than ever, I´ve used lot of time during past year with it  :cheers:

First picture of Charger, we were in Sweden / Classicmotormeet with my friends, picture is taken when we were driving back to Finland  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:28:54 AM
And now one pic of my Camaro Iroc-Z, sorry, I know that this is not appropriate in Mopar forum, but I can love all of them: Fords, Mopars and Chevys etc.  :shruggy: :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:29:32 AM
... And back to Charger  ;)
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:30:56 AM
Family picture of Charger, this is taken one week ago in a big car meeting/show that was here in Finland  :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 31, 2020, 01:17:54 AM
On this year I and my awesome Charger have 10 years together  :cheers: And it´s clear that this relationship will continue also next coming tens of years  :coolgleamA: This pictures are from last fall, I got new BFG Radial 235/295 tires for it at last, now it has again raised white letters that I missed so much  :2thumbs:

Loving this car. During last 1.5 year I also bought and build a friend for it, my another true dream car: Pontiac Trans Am "Bandit" T-top 400cid 1978  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: VegasCharger on March 31, 2020, 02:40:46 AM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

:cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: myk on March 31, 2020, 04:33:13 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:28:54 AM
And now one pic of my Camaro Iroc-Z, sorry, I know that this is not appropriate in Mopar forum, but I can love all of them: Fords, Mopars and Chevys etc.  :shruggy: :smilielol:

You're not the only one.  I have 4th Gen F bodys and Mustangs also...
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 31, 2020, 04:56:51 AM
Quote from: myk on March 31, 2020, 04:33:13 AM
Quote from: Charger´69 on August 21, 2017, 02:28:54 AM
And now one pic of my Camaro Iroc-Z, sorry, I know that this is not appropriate in Mopar forum, but I can love all of them: Fords, Mopars and Chevys etc.  :shruggy: :smilielol:

You're not the only one.  I have 4th Gen F bodys and Mustangs also...

We sick bastards  :rofl: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: timmycharger on April 03, 2020, 09:36:25 AM
Awesome!!  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: MoparMike68 on April 08, 2020, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 24, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun
Title: Re: My Charger '69 R/T 440cid **This Red Devil live in Finland!!!**
Post by: MoparMike68 on April 09, 2020, 09:53:16 AM
Quote from: MoparMike68 on April 08, 2020, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 24, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

Oh crap didn't realize this thread was going on this long or lost track due to quarantine  :smilielol:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 01, 2022, 07:42:32 AM
Now it's finally happening, Charger blower build has been ongoing for a while  :2thumbs: Many many years I was planning this, now it comes reality  :2thumbs:

Last year I supercharged that my Bandit Trans Am, it came out so fast, that Charger really needed some more power to keep up with it  :icon_smile_big: So, GMC 6-71 blower should help with that  :cheers:

Here is picture taken few days ago when I got blower carbs, soon I will get blower intake so I can start bolting that 6-71 on it's place  :D

Here is also one picture of that Bandit that I supercharged, all mechanical, I wanted it to be just like it could have been on year 1978 if factory would have had Supercharger option  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:

If you are interested, you can follow this build and also our other builds that we are building with my friend on this Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CoyoteRoadrunnerGarage
- SuperBandit Trans Am 1978
- Firebird Formula 1977
- Roadrunner 1968
- "Christine's Sister" 4x4 Monster Fury 1959 with blower engine
- This Charger 1969 of course 

Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Challenger340 on March 02, 2022, 06:50:47 PM
Very cool stuff !  :2thumbs:

Do you cut a 2nd Keyway in the Crank snout for your Blowers ?
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 03, 2022, 05:49:25 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 02, 2022, 06:50:47 PM
Very cool stuff !  :2thumbs:

Do you cut a 2nd Keyway in the Crank snout for your Blowers ?


I'm not 100% sure what you mean, but I have new 2V billet pulleys to replace old ones and then this tooth gear pulley for blower, all can be just bolted together...

Oh now I think I know what you mean, do you believe that original keyway on damper isn't strong enough? I haven't even thought about it. I have supercharged many cars, always that one stock keyway on damper has been enough. But this is first blower I'm installing, I guess this makes more stress to that damper / one keyway than those centrifugal superchargers.

But this is mild boost engine, it's max 7-8psi what I will use and even that might be challenging for stock Magnum engine. At the beginning I will use only 4-5psi boost, I ordered several different ratios for blower that I can adjust boost.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on March 23, 2022, 02:15:20 AM
Blower 1st test fitment, doesn't look bad at all  :2thumbs: :D
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 09, 2022, 04:05:07 AM
... Aaaaaaaand it's done, after first 12.5 years of planning and 4 months / 550 hours of actual work :cheers: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:

Here is link to video where is car show preparations etc., it's spoken in Finnish language so you won't understand anything but you can see Charger running etc.: https://youtu.be/aUOpeF_udMI

And here is one picture from show.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Challenger340 on May 09, 2022, 10:01:50 AM
FANTASTIC JOB  :2thumbs:
What a great car..... and I really enjoyed the Video !
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 09, 2022, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on May 09, 2022, 10:01:50 AM
FANTASTIC JOB  :2thumbs:
What a great car..... and I really enjoyed the Video !

Thank you, nice to hear!  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on May 11, 2022, 06:58:38 AM
This is how 1969 classic muscle car transformed to 1969 classic MUSCLE CAR in 12 years  :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:

You can follow our builds from here: https://www.facebook.com/CoyoteRoadrunnerGarage
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: 472 R/T SE on May 19, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
I love it.  Looks fantastic!
Years back Id do mods every winter.  One winter it was OD, AC or a blower, lol?  I went OD.  But the following winter I was working with The Blower Shop in PDX for a 671 or 871,iirc.

Someday I'll own a bug catcher, lol.

May I ask what your compression ratio is pre blower?
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on June 11, 2022, 04:05:56 AM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on May 19, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
I love it.  Looks fantastic!
Years back Id do mods every winter.  One winter it was OD, AC or a blower, lol?  I went OD.  But the following winter I was working with The Blower Shop in PDX for a 671 or 871,iirc.

Someday I'll own a bug catcher, lol.

May I ask what your compression ratio is pre blower?

Boost is somewhere 6-7psi now and engine is stock 440cid Magnum, so engine CR is around 9.5.
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: 472 R/T SE on July 03, 2022, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: Charger´69 on June 11, 2022, 04:05:56 AM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on May 19, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
I love it.  Looks fantastic!
Years back Id do mods every winter.  One winter it was OD, AC or a blower, lol?  I went OD.  But the following winter I was working with The Blower Shop in PDX for a 671 or 871,iirc.

Someday I'll own a bug catcher, lol.

May I ask what your compression ratio is pre blower?

Boost is somewhere 6-7psi now and engine is stock 440cid Magnum, so engine CR is around 9.5.

Thats what my stroker H is too so they said I didn't have to do any bottom work?  They said my motor was perfect (but of course, lol)

I will get a b catcher someday, mark my words, lol.



I love it.  She rocks!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Fitz73Chrgr on July 06, 2022, 08:48:35 PM
Looks awesome!

...and welcome to NATO!
Title: Re: My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid
Post by: Charger´69 on December 14, 2022, 05:54:44 AM
Here is short video clip aboyt my Charger + blower, just for fun  :coolgleamA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GdsEXUa4d4