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5.7 Hemi in a B-body

Started by ChargerSG, January 30, 2006, 06:09:15 PM

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ChargerSG

I have heard about some folks here and there whos putting a 5.7 Hemi(from salavge cars) in great cars and i been thinking about this for awaile(since i will never afford a 426). I have a 5.7 Hemi that i can buy, there is just 2 major things(i figurd out the brackets and oilpan and that) first that computer and all the electrical stuff scare the hell out of me im thinking in change the fuel injection for carb, but is it that simple(only seen one cratemotor with it) anyone know stuff that will work right in? And then is the Tranny problem since the dude dont have any, what will work with it, is like a 727 possible(i know it just to buy a salvage Durango tranny or something)...
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phat69charger

I haven't read up much on it but here's a link  http://www.thehemi.com/newhemiswap.php I think it's cost effective if your not trying to build a really powerful car like you could using a older big block.

ChargerSG

Thanks that was a great link. Im just hooked on getting a Hemi ;D
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694spdRT

Is the 5.7 Hemi internally or externally balanced?
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Rolling_Thunder

The computer and Wiring isnt that difficult (I would imagine) - If it is all included and original to the engine it is a pretty much self managed unit and plugs into the engine....     the computer will need 12V power sent to it and you might have some leads you will not use....     
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

ChargerSG

I imagend it myself before a guy told me if you dont have all the original stuff with it(trans, computer, power stearing) it will go bad(or not go at all) since you have to much loose ends in the system(then you have to know what to cut out too) then you have to buy a race tech computer and wiring(wich cost a small fortune) a 70 318 i can handle but a high tech modern motor with fuel injection  is something else, thats why i try to gather soo much info as possible before buying a $2000 motor(and shipping, trans, headers or something and all that you cant build....

But this idea as been in my head awile and i think its my only chanse to get a Hemi for mayby just 5k in all(and allot of work but that dont count ;)) when a bad crate 426 cost 14k.
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ChargerSG

Found this 5.7 with a Holley 600 CFM Four-Barrel Carburetor, question is what intake it is...
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phat69charger


ChargerSG

That was a better site than i did find, thanks. This is getting closer and closer :icon_smile_big:
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deathcharger71

Quote from: phat69charger on January 31, 2006, 10:39:41 PM
Looks like they call it a M1 intake http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1002.htm
for that amount of money you could have one kick ass 360.....

ChargerSG

Yeah, but its no Hemi :drive: And 4-5k to get a Hemi in your car isent bad :icon_smile_big:
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phat69charger

If your looking for any type of used car parts check out this site  http://car-part.com/  you can find complete engines with computers there in different price ranges.

ChargerSG

Thanks, links is allways great to get...
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Mike DC

I wonder what it would cost to rig up an old-school A-833 4-speed behind one of those?  I like them better than the modern 5-speeds. 

ChargerSG

I think it will be the same as using a A727 and its bolts right up to small block bellhousing had but you have to make a flex plate, and use a spacer between block and trans what i understand from a guy who did it. I will use a 727 or a 4 Speed for mine i think...
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Lightning

From what one of the mopar magazines had printed is that the bolt pattern for the trans is exactly the same as a 360's....
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

ChargerSG

The hemi crank is 8 bolt instead of 6,but its not the same bolt circle as the old 8 hole, so you have to machine a new flex plate as the guy who did it said..
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ChargerSG

Quote from: phat69charger on January 31, 2006, 10:39:41 PM
Looks like they call it a M1 intake http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1002.htm
I been looking around for M1 intakes and all i find is a preformer 440 intake, is that the same, does anybody knows?
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phat69charger

Quote from: ChargerSG on February 04, 2006, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: phat69charger on January 31, 2006, 10:39:41 PM
Looks like they call it a M1 intake http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1002.htm
I been looking around for M1 intakes and all i find is a preformer 440 intake, is that the same, does anybody knows?

Looks like holley makes it  http://www.whitetigerimports.com/products.asp?product_id=4609870219

bull

You could rig up a belt drive for the distributor if you didn't want the computer involved because the computer runs the ignition on those. I didn't read all those links to see what it says about that. If it were me doing it I'd scuttle all the computerized crap.

ChargerSG

Bull thats my plan, to trow that computed stuff out...
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ChargerSG

A guy told me that the m1 intake is just mopar performances name for there high performance intakes.There are m1 big block,small block, hemi, etc.intakes called m1's, but no a 440 intake won't fit a new hemi. The hemi m1,but its not avalible yet,you can only get it on the crate engines right now. Soo there is some waiting here i can image, since Mopar Performance wants to sell some crate 5.7 with carb first...
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Mike DC

So do we have any verdict yet?

Is it really possible to use a Gen III Hemi engine, but dump all the electronics and run a conventional distributor & electronic ignition box as if it's a 360?  (Do those new Hemis even have distributors to use at all?  Aren't they all coil-on-plug deals?)

-------------------------------------------------

This would definitely be cool if it worked.  And I'd definitely wanna use a 6.1L Hemi.  That's basically like creating a 383 with less overall weight & true Hemi heads.  (I wonder if you could stroke one of those things any bigger with aftermarket parts?  I mean, the smallblock Chevy has been pushed out as far as 474 inches by aftermarket stuff.)

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ChargerSG

Not really, but im gonna try anyway. I mean there are places to bolt everything like a old one(if you dont use ac and soo on) soo its not impossible i think, the question is what things to use and you have to think more than twise before trying to fire it up.... ;D
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dodgeboy67