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The Roadster Shop custom 68 Charger

Started by Ghoste, January 09, 2015, 12:33:09 PM

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Ghoste

After the SEMA show someone had posted photos of another 68 Charger that had been customized and JB mentioned how it was at least so much nicer than the RS Charger.  Here it is, judge for yourself.

Aero426

Swing and a miss.   Trying to improve on the original is like trying to hit a 150 mph fastball.    Misguided crap.

Ghoste

Yep.

Aero426

I don't see a single thing that makes me stop and think, "hey, I really like that".

Cooter

Well, that proves again, just cause you can don't mean you should....Ruined another Charger and never got close to orange paint....
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

Cooter

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

68pplcharger


twodko

FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

Daytona R/T SE


68Charger4me

I believe this is the worst "modified" Charger yet.... :icon_smile_dead:

moparnation74


Back N Black

They got it right back in 68, that is ugly!!

myk

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Mike DC

    
Like it even matters how it looks?  


A big-name shop built it.  
They chopped up a desirable bodystyle.  
They probably spent six figures just on the engine & CNC work alone.  

The end result of all that is guaranteed glowing press coverage.  It could look like the car from "Corvette Summer" and nobody would fail to cover it or question the styling.      

jar1292

it looks bloated I will never forgive myself for opening this thread...  :puke: :puke:

when ever I think about doing my own bodywork this is how it probably would turn out, looking nothing like how it should.
Restoring a charger is like a saying I heard along time ago "I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it".... Jesus I wish I could remember who said that...

hollywood1336

I comitted somewhat of a sacrilege by restomoding my 68, modern motor, modern interior and modern suspension, but anyone looking at it is going to know it's Charger right away, I didn't change one line of the already beautiful exterior.
These big name shops think they know it better but they actually don't. They have taken a car which appealed to everyone and made it appeal to a couple. In complete agreemnet, what a waste of a good Charger.   

Homerr

Please build a CG model, print out a scale model on a 3D printer first.

Then hit the delete key and throw the model in the trash.

Troy

That is truly awful. It's funny how much just sharpening the lines/corners really degrades the look of the car (and I see this at times on "restored" cars too).

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

JB400

I will say that it looked better before they painted it

Here's an interesting comment that the Roadster Shop made about this car + my question about it.  They was showing pix of a nice 69 Camaro they were until I slightly hijacked the thread:

Originally Posted by JB400 View Post

QuoteWhy wasn't the Charger given similar details?


RS reply:
QuoteI'm not sure why you are hating on the charger for lack of details or fabrication. (I think this is your 2nd or 3rd post about it now) There is an insane amount of detail in this car that maybe you do not see. Most of it is on the subtle side to enhance the looks and lines of the original body. At least 75% of the body was completely built from scratch or drastically modified. I think the center of the roof was the only thing left untouched. The interior is 100% hand fabricated as was the engine bay, trunk, entire chassis, belly pans, etc... Every part on the car was either built from scratch or machined specifically for this build. The only store bought items on the car are the tires, brakes, and basic mechanical parts. Everything else is a 1-off piece. We will start a build thread sometime next week to show all of the design, detail, and fabrication that went into the Charger.

For the record, I wasn't criticizing it for lack of details or fabrication.

SnoPro440

I saw that thing at SEMA.  Not my cup of tea.  Hell, not even two girls would eat this out of their cup.
2008 Viper SRT-10
1968 Charger R/T
2019 Rubicon JLU

tan top

lot of work / time & money gone it to that car , some nice custom work     :yesnod:        but !!  well done , for destroying the most beautiful shaped car ever built !   :bow:



still each to their own !!


Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

el dub

I'll take it! Looks like a real nice motor. I bet it hauls ass. It's hot roddin folks. If someone wants to change it back it//////do it
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

bill440rt

Not my cup of tea, either.  :rotz:
However, MCG gave it their SEMA Mopar Modified Pick?  :scratchchin:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

cdr

alot of hard work went into that very ugly car!!
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

Ghoste

How can they claim the mods are subtle and you are missing them and then brag about the only thing not drastically modified was the center of the roof?  Best just stick to fiberglass 32 Fords.

JB400

I believe they thought I was criticizing their fabrication skills, whereas I was actually criticizing the work of their designer.  Fabrication wise, their work is top notch, from what I can see in the pix.  However, I think their designer had never seen a Charger, and had no idea what to do to it, or had even been around Mopars in general to know much about them.  They've done a Cuda as well, but those cars look close enough to Camaro in side profile, so they know what works.  In my mind, they were cluesless as to what to do with the Charger, so they just made changes to make changes.

Ryan.C

Quote from: cdr on January 09, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
alot of hard work went into that very ugly car!!

HA, I was thinking these guys tried VERY hard to screw up this Charger!
There are few problems in life that cannot be solved with C-4.

JB400

Quote from: Cooter on January 09, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
Well, that proves again, just cause you can don't mean you should....Ruined another Charger and never got close to orange paint....
All kidding aside, orange paint would help it some.

Rosco

At first glance I thought it was the "Project Maximus" Charger.
But after looking at the pictures a bit more closely, I don't think it is. Seems to be a different group/custom shop building it.

In case anyone hasn't seen it, this is Project Maximus;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keuz4PBccWo - probably.... halfway(-ish?) through the build?

and;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmx6KvL69U - a bit further along.

I think there's a few other videos of it floating around YouTube
Some stuff I really like, some stuff I'm kind of "meh..." about. Either way, a lot of very nice custom work. Can't fault the metalwork. I DO kind of like the wider rear-end, and how they extended the rockers further down to cover the pinch seam underneath.
"She needs premium, Dude! PREMIUM!!"

Baldwinvette77


wingcar

Customs are and always have been about personal tastes (or lot thereof) and will never appeal to the masses.  But, then by their very nature they were/are not intended to appeal to everyone.  A lot of work and personal pride goes into a full custom, but anyone building a custom should understand that there will be those out there that feel the same as a lot of you do, that all they really did with their custom was to destroy a nice car.  That's the danger in trying to be different.
 
For me personally, I feel they took the whole concept over broad and removed what the 1968 Charger is all about.  It's a case of overkill on a grand scale.  I have always felt that enhancing a design by incorporating minor changes and improving on the original design are much better.   Example being removing bumper bolts, and tucking the bumpers in closer to the body.....things like that.  Not that I don't like a full on custom....one of my favorites is the Thunder Charger built by Barris for the movie Thunder Alley...the car that got me into Chargers.

Like others have said about this Charger.....quality workmanship, just not my cup of tea....   
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on January 09, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
It's fucking hideous.     :puke:


That is probably the most honest decription that's been said so far.

six-tee-nine

That poor Charger is FUBAR

Its just a matter for these shops to come to a show like that and show the people their skills. It takes alot of skill to fabricate something like that....the result is up to you if you like it or not. Its just a buisiness card for these guys.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Dino

Apparently it takes even more skill to leave them alone.  There are countless cars that rolled off the line that can be improved, why mess with one that doesn't need it?  To prove you were wrong? 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Road Dog

Coulda been worse and they messed up a 69. :nana:
If your wheels ain't spinn'n you ain't got no traction.

Ghoste

Quote from: Dino on January 15, 2015, 11:08:18 AM
Apparently it takes even more skill to leave them alone.  There are countless cars that rolled off the line that can be improved, why mess with one that doesn't need it?  To prove you were wrong? 

Exactly!!!  You want to prove your fabrication skills?  Don't show me how shocking you can make a car thats generally regarded as ideal right out of the box, go to town on an Aztek and see if you can make me like it.

Stevearino

I am all for refining , tweeking, shaving, and tucking but while as everyone agrees this is a monument to skilled craftsmanship it still was in the service of a bad design. They turned a sexy lady into a pornstar with gigantic boobs and silicone injected lips. Not very tasteful. :Twocents:

jww426

And I thought giant wheels made cars look too "cartoony"...boy was I wrong!
Is this rig for Ironman?
Maybe the Green-grey Hornet's Kato?

We are going to have 2 generations of young people with bad spines from all these ridiculously big wheels and low profile "Skins".

JWW
JWWIV

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 09, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
   
Like it even matters how it looks?  


A big-name shop built it.  
They chopped up a desirable bodystyle.  
They probably spent six figures just on the engine & CNC work alone.  

The end result of all that is guaranteed glowing press coverage.  It could look like the car from "Corvette Summer" and nobody would fail to cover it or question the styling.      





If given the choice between owning that POS Charger or owning the CS Vette.....I'd rather be seen in this

Ghoste

Ouch, that's just a fat chick in a thong right there.

JB400


Ghoste

Is it that one or a variation?  I can't tell if that one is right hand drive and I thought the movie car just had hood stacks on one side?  (and much too lazy to look it up  :lol: )

JB400

It's the car from Corvette Summer, or a good clone of the one in the movie.

Patronus

'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Ghoste

Quote from: JB400 on January 16, 2015, 10:53:08 PM
It's the car from Corvette Summer, or a good clone of the one in the movie.

Yeah I knew what movie you were referencing but wondering if its the car or a clone?  Just as homely no matter the answer and that's all that matters.  :lol:  (it was just my car geek getting loose)

G-man

Pretty cool Charger.

Whoever wanted it that way, got exactly what they paid for. If anything, the way they turned it into a 2 seater, i thought was awesome.

Just goes to show you can do anything you want with these. Good to see there are shops with the skill to build whatever you may have in vision.

cincyboy

I can appreciate the Fabrication skill, and I actually like the wheels, they pay tribute to the old vectors. They are probably one offs so no access to them.   I think where they got lost was in the color scheme.  Its just too one dimensional.  All that detail lost in a muted gray abyss.  Interior is creative and I like.  Its gotta suck to put it all out there and so many agree it fell short.   :icon_smile_dissapprove:

Mike DC

  
I'm sorry to diss good craftsmanship too.  But dramatically messing with the lines on a 2nd-gen is a losing game, period. I cannot think of one goddamn time it has really worked in the almost 50 years that design has existed.  People never stop trying but they never succeed.    
 

If a shop is having urges to rebuild most of a 2nd-gen's sheetmetal, they should go restore a rusty stock one.

myk

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cincyboy

Saw it at the top of the list, peeked my interest, last post was yesterday.  Am I missing something? are we :horse:

cdr

Quote from: cincyboy on August 13, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
Saw it at the top of the list, peeked my interest, last post was yesterday.  Am I missing something? are we :horse:


it's all good cincyboy,,  well not really, THIS CAR IS  :eek2:
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

68pplcharger

I love the GIF cincyboy...  :smilielol: You close to the river? I'm in Burlington about 15 minutes from downtown.

cincyboy

I am, Sayler park.  In the winter I can see the river from my house.   :2thumbs:  Burlington is not too far.

68pplcharger

Quote from: cincyboy on August 13, 2015, 02:05:32 PM
I am, Sayler park.  In the winter I can see the river from my house.   :2thumbs:  Burlington is not too far.

Yeah your only 20 minutes going Anderson ferry.  :cheers:

VegasCharger

Quote from: cincyboy on August 13, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
Saw it at the top of the list, peeked my interest, last post was yesterday.  Am I missing something? are we :horse:

Reply #45 was posted 1-16-15
Reply #46 was posted 8-12-15 (yesterday)

That's what MYK was referring to as the post was refreshed after a 7 month hiatus.

:cheers:

cincyboy


cincyboy

68pplchharger: Good to know a brother is close.  Maybe we can help each other out.  I'm just starting my car so a long way to go! :brickwall:

68pplcharger

Quote from: cincyboy on August 13, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
68pplchharger: Good to know a brother is close.  Maybe we can help each other out.  I'm just starting my car so a long way to go! :brickwall:

If you ever need help just PM me

G-man

Quote from: VegasCharger on August 13, 2015, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: cincyboy on August 13, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
Saw it at the top of the list, peeked my interest, last post was yesterday.  Am I missing something? are we :horse:

Reply #45 was posted 1-16-15
Reply #46 was posted 8-12-15 (yesterday)

That's what MYK was referring to as the post was refreshed after a 7 month hiatus.

:cheers:

I was searching stuff on Roadster shop and it came up with dodgecharger forum in google. So I clicked on it and then replied. Better late than never!

BROCK

The Corvette Summer Vette hood was asymmetrical. Left side scoops forward while right side scoops face rearward.  The real star of that show was the Formula T/A!!!

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Ghoste

Quote from: BROCK on September 10, 2015, 09:38:43 PM
The real star of that show was the Formula T/A!!!

Well it sure wasn't that kid from Star Wars.  :eek2: