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Title: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 25, 2016, 03:43:47 PM
ill start a little thread on my rat muscle car that i christened "Daisy". i didnt intend on keeping this car as i was gonna rob the 400 engine and other pieces from it but after getting it all cleaned up i kinda like the rough unrestored look she has, so its gonna stay that way. im going to try and build this as cheap as possible and use alot of the extra crap i have but also how i want it to be at the same time kinda roadkill-ish. heres my plan...
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160116_130448_resized_zpsbdluzxkd.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160116_130519_resized_zps2qhvpojz.jpg)


engine plan...
i bought a 440 engine off craigslist for $350 and it was a score, when i went to look at it, the engine was in great shape like it barely ran and with performance goodies. it had a steel crank, forged flat top pistons, double roller chain, painted inside block for oil run off, ported 346 heads, milodon dual external oil pump pickup with the matching pan and a cam (dont know specs on cam but not being used anyway).  after tearing it apart and cleaning internals found all bearings were like new, moly rings were like new and everything in great shape. im going to try and swap the heads for some chinese aluminum ones, but built by CHE here in vegas as he did all my racing heads. im also going to convert it to efi by using a stock ls1 pcm and wiring harness. i ordered a cps adapter for the distributor hole and im going to weld a reluctor wheel to the back of the crank pulley, so with cam and crank sensor thats all i need to run a ls1 pcm. im going to buy the edelbrock efi tunnel ram for it to work with the ls1 pcm. im also going to try and twin turbo it with a pair of 57 trims so it will spool fast and hit hard but not make over 800, i want to keep it around 650-700hp. turbo is the only way to get good mileage and still make gobs of hp. once i get the engine in it i need to make a set of headers for it, more on that once i get to that point.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_112748_resized_zpsabh6gpsv.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_112754_resized_zpsnettxses.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_112951_resized_zpsxe9pbqxi.jpg)

trans...
a518 conversion so i have overdrive

body...
fix the floor patches and new trunk pan, subframe connectors with all the additional uni-body braces. i may have to do a driver quarter skin as its pretty shot, then ill have to rust it up and paint to mtch the rest of the rat look lol.

suspension...
going to use my tubular front k frame suspension and 5 link the rear end with this car, i already have the wilwood spindles and brake stuff, also have a qa1 coilover set i can use on her
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/IMAG3173_zpscs4mirbd.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/IMAG3112_zps37ssf49x.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_121441_resized_zpsachhsao2.jpg)

wheels...
i have a set of 15x8 magnums for the front and a set of 15x10 magnums for the rear.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_121024_resized_zpsqnqnds3r.jpg)

interior...
i am going to restore the interior somewhat, as im gonna try and daily this car. dynomat, new carpet, headliner, door panels, replacement center console and im going to use a set of tan ls1 camaro seats up front. im also gonna put one of my woodgrain wheels and tic toc tac's in the dash.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160116_001653_resized_zpskzjrzxc0.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160125_122708_resized_zpsfi8sb6ms.jpg)

now these are all rough plans that may get altered lol, i have alot on my plate right now but ide love to have DAISY at the spring fling
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on January 25, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
Neat!, Hopefully my car will look as good as that when i finish it  :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: orange383 on January 25, 2016, 04:00:59 PM
Will be following this with interest as my 68 is gonna be done with a Roadkill look.

Those wheels will look great on Daisy!!  :yesnod:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 25, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
since the whole roof is patina'd i was thinking of grinding and sanding a rebel flag on the roof then clear coating it. so it has a rustic general lee kinda look on the roof.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: orange383 on January 25, 2016, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 25, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
since the whole roof is patina'd i was thinking of grinding and sanding a rebel flag on the roof then clear coating it. so it has a rustic general lee kinda look on the roof.

It could work and look cool.
I used to own a GL replica and did consider building a rat look GL with the charger I have now so I say go for it!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on January 25, 2016, 04:34:53 PM
Awesome plans! Looks like you won't have time for mine. ;)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 25, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
urs would put a few dollars in my pocket toward mine, bring it...turbo's aint cheap lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on January 25, 2016, 04:43:14 PM
Now this I gotta see :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Good luck with this approach :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Love those rims :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on January 25, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
 :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: fy469rtse on January 28, 2016, 05:29:59 PM
 :popcrn:
I love the watt's linkage set up ,
did you fabricate that or a bought item
I don't think you will be able to use or fit that with existing fuel tank
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 28, 2016, 06:15:15 PM
I built it, yea I'm gonna have to modify a stock tank for it
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 6pktgo on January 28, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
 :popcrn: :2thumbs: :popcrn:   Watching from Ontario :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: erlendch on February 04, 2016, 03:42:01 PM
I love this. Please never paint it, I think it looks awesome!!!  :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 10, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
ive been trying to slam her out to drive to the mopars at the strip but man, shes been fighting me on every single thing. even had to saw the bolts off the upper control arms as they were rusted to the bushing keeping them locked in, the left axle was seized to the housing were not even a slide hammer could knock it out, even cut half the backing plate off to get swings on the axle flange, finally ran a bolt thru the axle flange and impacted the dang thing off, it bent the flange before finally popping out. the engine im trying to slam out for it is pretty beefy...forged, solid roller, roller rockers, arp everywhere, 3k stall, 3.91 sure grip. i had to replace entire brake system aswell. no time to fix the drivers floor pan, just gonna have to flinstone it. im hoping i can make it but gonna be tight...already working on it all day till around 1am. customer stuff is on hold lol.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160309_171933_resized_zpseikhyxoj.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160309_132115_resized_zps93hgndv5.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 10, 2016, 12:37:12 PM
if i can make it im stuck between 2 sets of wheels i have...15x8 with 15x10 magnums or 15x8.5 with 15x10 vectors. what do you think? i think the vectors would give it more of a rat look and magnums more of a beefy stock look
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Daytona R/T SE on March 10, 2016, 01:16:02 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 10, 2016, 12:37:12 PM
if i can make it im stuck between 2 sets of wheels i have...15x8 with 15x10 magnums or 15x8.5 with 15x10 vectors. what do you think? i think the vectors would give it more of a rat look and magnums more of a beefy stock look


Vectors. :Twocents:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 10, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
Vectors :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on March 10, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 10, 2016, 01:16:02 PM

Vectors. :Twocents:


Quote from: Lennard on March 10, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
Vectors :2thumbs:

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on March 10, 2016, 04:29:41 PM
Love the rat look.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on March 10, 2016, 08:20:11 PM
I vote magnums.

Vectors put it too far over into Joe Dirt territory (in my opinion).

Unless, Joe Dirt is your thing, then by all means. :icon_smile_big:

Cool build though, looking forward to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: marshallfry01 on March 11, 2016, 02:22:10 AM
If your still planning on swapping out those bucket seats I'd be interested in them. I'll buy them or I'll trade 1970 charger buckets if you just wanna swap.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: erlendch on March 11, 2016, 02:25:59 AM
Vectors. But Magnums will be very cool too!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on March 11, 2016, 04:57:51 AM
 :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Derwud on March 11, 2016, 08:27:35 AM
Going to be watching this one, doing the same with my 70 Charger.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 12, 2016, 11:50:16 AM
well i knew the trunk was iffy but i was hoping to be able to drive to mats then put a new pan in it later but having to do a quick trunk pan job on her. the gas tank hanger brackets were flopping around like a loose tooth and didnt wanna loose the fuel tank lol. hoping to finish trunk pan, gear and fuel lines today. then still gotta finish building the engine. roller rockers and arp head bolts showed up yesturday. picking up axles with new green bearing on monday,  this is getting close...lol
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160311_233555_resized_zpst7echkzc.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 12, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
Looks like my '68.  ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 13, 2016, 10:16:26 AM
so when i was cutting out the old trunk pan and had a big rust pile, the old gas tank and gas tank straps were in the pile. the old gas tank straps were not rotted but i wanted new ones anyway. theres a big dumpster i use to drop stuff in about a mile from the house on my way to sonic. i tossed it all in there only to find the next day gas tank straps are backordered, stainless and steel ones. had to go dumpster diving to find my old straps again lol.

got the trunk finish cut and ready for new trunk pan, had to patch a few small spots in the frame rail and cross rail.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160312_215656_resized_zpsn87d78bo.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160312_225319_resized_zpsiiufamdz.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160313_001732_resized_zpsr8adgc6q.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on March 13, 2016, 08:19:40 PM
"JEGS" sweet

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 13, 2016, 10:41:14 PM
got the inner frame rails and rail connector epoxied and then weld thru primer on the weld seams. finished grafting in the trunk pan. i didnt use the whole pan because its that cheapo 2 piece and the original metal around the leaf spring supports was good and stronger.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160313_132702_resized_zps6vwevmc4.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160313_202101_resized_zpsjev0kjnh.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on March 14, 2016, 01:24:28 AM
Awesome Chris :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


EDIT: Charger's already added $1000.00 of value   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 14, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160314_105742_resized_zps76j9fhdl.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160314_120817_resized_zpstlnkzz0r.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160314_123734_resized_zpszzcrhr5z.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 14, 2016, 03:16:30 PM
Looks great  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 16, 2016, 12:59:23 PM
stayed up till around 1am getting the engine parts painted with por-15, stuff is awesomeness...dries like to a hard glossy finish that wont get affected my gasoline or brake cleaner, i always use it on engines. a little tricky to spray but just gotta reduce it a little and do light coats. now i can get it assembled today. my title for the car showed up yesturday, good timing lol. also got the rear axle all done with my 3.91 sure grip, new brakes, green sealed axle bearings and all front suspension done. remember i only started on this about 2 weeks ago, i have to keep reminding myself not to go crazy or dump alot of money in it as its just gonna be a beater hotrod, ive already got over 11k in it but thats also with buying it. the engine itself is a 440 .030 over, 11:1 forged flat tops, ly rods with arp bolts, arp head bolts, ported 346 heads with manley valves and springs (my aluminum heads were not ready yet so running these), 229/233 solid roller cam, double chain, steel crank, comp pushrods, prw rockers, mopar stock appearing aluminum intake. aluminum water pump housing and pump, milodon dual pick up oil pan and pump. it should be a good little street thumper for now.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160316_100313_resized_zpsialqva6r.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160316_103608_resized_zpsevq0r9p2.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160316_103507_resized_zpstb2i2ehs.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 16, 2016, 01:26:54 PM
Nice and shiny!   :coolgleamA:  Great progress :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: kokxville on March 16, 2016, 03:47:19 PM
Nice work  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 17, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160317_022950_resized_zpsqegnlglm.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160317_023241_resized_zpstmredazn.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 17, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
 Big pimpin' bling!  Looks great.  :drive:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on March 17, 2016, 10:11:10 AM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on March 17, 2016, 01:16:54 PM
 :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 18, 2016, 06:52:09 AM
Quote from: lukedukem on March 13, 2016, 08:19:40 PM
"JUGS" sweet

Luke
Fixed it.  ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on March 18, 2016, 08:11:35 PM
That engine looks dam good.....
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 21, 2016, 08:35:10 PM
well, i tried like hell to get it to the vegas show but way too much work and too many issues fighting me. found i had the wrong year alternator, broke the tubing bender tool, i have to drop the k frame to get the tri-y headers in and so on...was up till around 2am the last week trying to slam her out but no go lol, shes stubborn.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160321_180628_resized_zpstrgund9d.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160321_104628_resized_zpsxumxuyqa.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on March 21, 2016, 09:53:10 PM
I like it!!!!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lighthorseman on March 22, 2016, 12:21:20 AM
Very cool.  :2thumbs:  :2thumbs:  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RamZCharger on March 22, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
Looking great  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 25, 2016, 09:39:08 AM
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160324_150208_resized_zps8stbdieo.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160324_150306_resized_zps17whzakc.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 25, 2016, 09:25:42 PM
Very nice,  almost ready to fire it up!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: MoParJW on March 26, 2016, 05:30:48 AM
That car is going to be a lot of fun  :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: nvrbdn on March 26, 2016, 08:48:55 AM
Looking good. A fun cruiser.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 02, 2016, 08:02:49 PM
built a dash jig real quick to disassemble, rotate and lock in whatever position, paint and re-assemble the dash for my car today

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160402_180618_resized_zps3kqz5urh.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on April 02, 2016, 09:22:22 PM
Can I rent that dash jig when you're done with it?

Nice progress Chris :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 02, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
rent...hell just borrow it lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on April 02, 2016, 11:17:04 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on April 02, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
rent...hell just borrow it lol

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 03, 2016, 02:30:39 AM
got my new radiator in, assembled my new taylor wires, removed the front glass, removed the dash and removed the a/c box. im going to add a tic toc tac and convert the ammeter to voltmeter. plus i wanna go thru the dash and clea out all the rat nest.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160403_001118_resized_zpsbxitv0k0.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: WHITE AND RED 69 on April 03, 2016, 05:21:04 PM
That's one clean looking engine! Great work!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 03, 2016, 09:17:37 PM
the ammeter in daisy was fried and had the normal bypass done, i wanted to put a voltmeter in it but keep it stock appearing and not wanting to spend alot on sending it out and having it converted i just decided to rob the electrical out of an old autometer gauge and use the face and needle from the mopar ammeter. i combined the 2 and boom...cheap ass volt gauge lol. its bolts right in the stock mounting position. it would probly be easier next time to use a cheapo autozone special volt gauge
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160403_193846_resized_zpsoofmaiky.jpg)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160403_193827_resized_zps2pv9yrn8.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Challenger340 on April 03, 2016, 11:55:07 PM
Congrats, you look to be doing a fine job  :2thumbs:
that said....

HUH ?
11:1 Forged "Flat Top" Pistons ?
In a 440 ?
With 88 CC "346" Head castings ?

Excuse me for saying so..... not trying to rain on your efforts, but there is No such thing as an "11.:1" Forged Flat Top Piston for a 440 using "346" open chamber heads.
From the earlier pictures you posted, those Pistons look to be the FM L2266 pistons(by the pin bosses anyways as they were upside down), which if they are, are more like 8.6:1 with a composition style head gasket.
just say'in....
you may wish to re-evaluate your performance expectations ?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 12:55:23 AM
Ok.... so its 10:1. 4.350 piston, 3.75 stroke, 82cc chamber, -.060 in the hole, flat top piston,  .022 head hasket. Punch that in any compression calculator...I mistaken 78cc as that was the head I was going to use. Happy now...  :pity: when my aluminum heads come off the tug boat from china they will make it 11:1 being 78cc and milling them down .050"
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 01:27:26 AM
Plus you assumed wrong thinking my pistons were that part number by being .160 in the hole. They are not...they are .060
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Challenger340 on April 04, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 01:27:26 AM
Plus you assumed wrong thinking my pistons were that part number by being .160 in the hole. They are not...they are .060

No, the L2266F (if that's what you have) is a 1.99 C.D., or about .090" downhole, so good to hear your block has been milled down and yours are only .060", and also good to hear your 346 castings have been milled down substantially to the 82 CC mark, as most are 88-90 CC's.
The problem with using ANY C.R. Calculator for a BB Mopar is the Head Gaskets are NOT round, making the Calculators only close.

'Nuff said....
I have obviously hit a nerve here, so please accept my apologies.
It was NOT my intent. I merely wished to provide clarity regarding performance expectations, given it seems you are also planning aluminum heads.
If you indeed have the L2266F Pistons ?
you may wish to peruse the following link, as these are pretty accurate C.R.'s for the various CC's.

JEGS Part Number: 844-L2266F30

440ci Stock-Type Piston, .030'' Overbore
Piston Dia.: 4.350''
Piston Top: Flat Top
Pressed Pin
Comp Ratio: 9.33:1 w/78.5cc Heads, 8.66:1 w/88cc Heads
Ring Grooves: 5/64'', 5/64'', 3/16''
Sold as Each
Fits Applications:
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Challenger340 on April 04, 2016, 09:26:50 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 12:55:23 AM
Ok.... so its 10:1. 4.350 piston, 3.75 stroke, 82cc chamber, -.060 in the hole, flat top piston,  .022 head hasket. Punch that in any compression calculator...I mistaken 78cc as that was the head I was going to use. Happy now...  :pity: when my aluminum heads come off the tug boat from china they will make it 11:1 being 78cc and milling them down .050"

Again, NOT trying to rain here..... only offered as assistance, for your consideration
but if your plans include 11:1 C.R. by milling the chinese aluminum heads .050" ?  Remember, the Pistons are still .060" down hole @ TDC, with another minimum .020"(steel shim) head gasket..... meaning you are still .080" "quench" ?
91 Octane Pump Premium fuel, may NOT like 11:1 with an .080" quench distance ? depending upon elevation/Camshaft/Trq Convertor selection ?

Got nothing to do with making me happy ?   Just trying to prevent you from potentially being UN-happy ?  :pity:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 09:53:22 AM
yes they were both taken down a tad bit, intake had to be machined to fit properly. the short block is how i bought it, only paid $300 for it off craigslist. ive run 11:1 with 12lbs of boost before on the streets with 91 octane. made 748hp to the tire on a 377ci engine. also 11.5:1 on another one with no boost, all that had to be done was timing and what helped alot was thermal coating the pistons, combustion chambers, valves and exhaust runners. this worked great on the racecar except that the hotter exhaust burned and melted the quarter panel  :lol: most newer vehicles are running over 10:1 some even over 11:1 the prius being one of them.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Challenger340 on April 04, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on April 04, 2016, 09:53:22 AM
yes they were both taken down a tad bit, intake had to be machined to fit properly. the short block is how i bought it, only paid $300 for it off craigslist. ive run 11:1 with 12lbs of boost before on the streets with 91 octane. made 748hp to the tire on a 377ci engine. also 11.5:1 on another one with no boost, all that had to be done was timing and what helped alot was thermal coating the pistons, combustion chambers, valves and exhaust runners. this worked great on the racecar except that the hotter exhaust burned and melted the quarter panel  :lol: most newer vehicles are running over 10:1 some even over 11:1 the prius being one of them.

Good for you then, keep up the good work :2thumbs:

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 07, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
since im on the floor now i might aswell just spend the coin and do the 6 speed swap now so i can modify the trans tunnel. in trying to shed some weight off it and clean it up im going to use one of my old wilwood reverse mount swinging pedal assemblies and tuck it under the dash so there will be no master cylinder under the hood, just 3 small reservoirs. gonna try and make it all bolt in deal. ive got the six speed, just gotta buy the conversion bellhousing and clutch setup now. so much for driving it in the next month lol. oh ive gotta cut the tri-y section of the headers apart and reshape it so it goes thru the crossmember better too.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/lowrider01mopar/20160407_121745_resized_zpsy34kgplk.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Finn on April 07, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 25, 2016, 03:43:47 PM
now these are all rough plans that may get altered lol, i have alot on my plate right now but ide love to have DAISY at the spring fling

Sounds like a good plan! Id love to see it there :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on April 07, 2016, 05:11:52 PM
 :scope:   :coolgleamA: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: fy469rtse on April 13, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
Great build , great work,
Don't ever stop putting in your two cents worth Charlie,
More than once or twice during my build , you made me think outside the box , and also consider areas that I assumed I wouldn't have issues,
Always welcome advice from members on here , good bad , or indifferent, that's why I'm on here,
My chargers an animal and behaves it self when required because of the help on here  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on April 13, 2016, 08:05:49 AM
i saw where you rebuilt the back brakes, what are you gonna do up front? stick with stock

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 13, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
I put a rebuilt set of 75 charger disc brakes up front but it's all coming off now, those brakes were to just try and make the Vegas show. Now it's going wildwood front and rear.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 17, 2016, 10:09:49 AM
Made a patch for the passenger side floor, that was the only rust spot. Was tricky to made with all the multiple angles and radius bends. Also cut the tri-y section of the headers apart and reshaped them to fit thru the torsion support.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12998243_10204501297572392_4214513892409301189_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13029534_10204501297612393_3768647674571851226_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on April 17, 2016, 12:45:58 PM
Craftsmanship  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on April 17, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on April 28, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
Updates

:popcrn:

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on April 29, 2016, 02:13:16 AM
Quote from: lukedukem on April 28, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
Updates

:popcrn:

Luke

He's in Texas right now looking at more 2nd gen Chargers.  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on April 29, 2016, 08:11:55 AM
Not just looking,  he bought a few. ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on April 29, 2016, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: Lennard on April 29, 2016, 08:11:55 AM
Not just looking,  he bought a few. ;D

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on May 11, 2016, 10:34:55 AM
Update?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger_Fan on May 11, 2016, 12:38:08 PM
Not sure how I missed this thread, but I'm diggin' this build! :2thumbs:
I'm looking forward to seeing how Daisy turns out. :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on May 17, 2016, 02:28:46 AM
Got a little work in on it today, wire wheeled the floor, por15 metal prep sprayed, preasure washed, por15'd the floor and then primer sealed all weld seams. Started welding the floor half in.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13240513_10204651622610424_5885751197123742139_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=322c4cacdaf8812414978ac7d7c42405&oe=579ABCE7)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13256434_10204651622530422_8870348257262272547_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=b4c64a6b678d9891239676f70d4e3d72&oe=57D73964)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on May 31, 2016, 01:44:52 AM
Got the drivers rear floor pan in, I'm sealing off all a/c holes on the firewall as im going to run vintage air, fixing some rust issues around the rear glass. I cutout a few rusted areas around the back glass to replace with new metal. I'm gonna let it patina back up and look rusty again, I just didn't want big gapping holes. I tried to make the patch look original
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13346804_10204728135163190_5025563936800314359_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=1595534c084b430d5939ccaf515867e6&oe=57D342A2)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13321890_10204728135083188_3766705915856675248_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=0a2cd176dea63230e0d354e81d4bdfa4&oe=57E46F4F/img%5D%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bimg%5Dhttps://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13321890_10204728135083188_3766705915856675248_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=0a2cd176dea63230e0d354e81d4bdfa4&oe=57E46F4F)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13344560_10204728135123189_1017271151659248648_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c11363b59b01860bc2d102c3de318e69&oe=57C537A4)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on May 31, 2016, 01:54:52 AM
Sealing the firewall
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13323447_10204728144043412_4617630952197892880_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13308407_10204728144123414_3783020366931691772_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13315758_10204728144083413_287466218187773881_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3113fdeec9cbbca51629e6ed846991b7&oe=57C86A32)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on May 31, 2016, 01:58:51 AM
New rear seat pan

(http://s33.postimg.org/j4mc6nccf/20160518_230705.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Barfyspitz on May 31, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
This car is gonna look great. I dig the original yellow paint/black strip scheme
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 01, 2016, 02:30:47 AM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13342898_10204733106447469_7820715705030345688_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=aa758bc348aa33776424432331bd2077&oe=57C1ED23)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13339622_10204733106967482_6861357908745247445_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=897454a0062b005ea4f2aa05d9056d7d&oe=57D28CEC)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 03, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
Overheating issues...not with this monster fan from a newer mercedes. Flows some serious air and pulls a lot of amps too lol.it has a built in relay so all you gotta do is run a single relay trigger wire from a coolant temp switch. It only has an 1/8" clearness from the pulley bolts but the fan comes off easy
(http://s33.postimg.org/sfozuhk9r/20160603_000719.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Derwud on June 03, 2016, 07:46:44 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on June 03, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
Overheating issues...not with this monster fan from a newer mercedes. Flows some serious air and pulls a lot of amps too lol.it has a built in relay so all you gotta do is run a single relay trigger wire from a coolant temp switch. It only has an 1/8" clearness from the pulley bolts but the fan comes off easy

You got a part number for that Monster? New or used?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 04, 2016, 08:34:58 PM
Setting up the rear brakes now, 2 calipers per wheel. One for rear brakes and the other for the drift handbrake.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13320736_10204751992719614_5115428322150629299_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on June 04, 2016, 09:03:27 PM
Hahaha  I like the way you think!   :2thumbs:   Drive it like you stole it is my motto.    :yesnod:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Ryan.C on June 04, 2016, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: garner7555 on June 04, 2016, 09:03:27 PM
Hahaha  I like the way you think!   :2thumbs:   Drive it like you stole it is my motto.    :yesnod:

:2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 04, 2016, 09:57:44 PM
Oh I'm gonna beat the hell out of this car...lol. It's gonna be caged, at the moment I think I'm just gonna slap in some composite leaf springs with a Panhard bar with adjustable front and rear shocks. Then later on I'll rip it all out to put in one of my other cars and go all out on daisy
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 10, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Made the adapter brackets so I can use a reverse mount wildwood pedal assembly. Dual compact master cylinders will be under the dash with small remote reservoirs on firewall where the master used to be. It's adjustable pedal height and i can adjust the front to rear brake bias without leaving the seat with a remote knob that adjusts the pedal leverage. the complete pedal assembly with the masters is about a 1/3 of the weight.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13428385_10204786803109852_5114839856564598469_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c8597392c52be3adbf82c4205ca6d27b&oe=580FB102)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13346926_10204786803309857_2832427406073265116_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=5c4b0000e41894e3f626c7651903e09d&oe=57FEEE2E)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 16, 2016, 06:51:08 PM
Got most of the suspension designed up and cut out today for daisy, will be a parallel 4 link with a panhard. Everything has a lot of adjustment for different types of racing I wanna do with it. It's bushing mount on the frame sides of the suspension and heim join on the axle side.
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13427821_10204819529407989_6291344317625877246_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=97e1757b55fd6cf26134d334193e003e&oe=57C5F888)
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13466219_10204819529367988_6835195545385630195_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=824690b98265d363b8274811ebcd42c2&oe=57DA1B7B)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 16, 2016, 06:54:38 PM
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13482857_10204819583009329_3907425689125850937_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on June 16, 2016, 08:53:18 PM
That's Awesome!  I do a little steel fab. work so I really look forward to seeing this suspension build!   :yesnod:    :2thumbs:   :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 16, 2016, 10:19:41 PM
Got home to find I was all out of welding gas...dang, I was all hyped up to get it on lol. I atlas tacked them to the clamp on axle brackets to mock up. I staggered the trailing arm mounts to more even out the upper and lower arms. I don't like those traingulated uppers as they seem long but if you measure bolt to bolt length wise with the car they are really short while the lowers are almost x3 as long. That changes the pinion and geometry way to fast during suspension travel. With this setup I'll be able to adjust for whatever I Wanna do that weekend lol. It's bushing mounted on the frame side of all the suspension so it will be a good Streeter too
(https://s32.postimg.org/5aopqvjhx/20160616_200159.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 18, 2016, 12:13:38 AM
Car porn...lol
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13474939_10204826731028025_8514372723433177321_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 18, 2016, 02:53:57 AM
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13442484_10204827249600989_3893170833825995191_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on June 18, 2016, 03:13:06 PM
 :o :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on June 18, 2016, 03:16:33 PM
are you still leaving the outside like it is, except for maybe the flag on top that you mentioned earlier?

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 18, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
Yeah its still gonna be ratty, I'm gonna point out some of the dents though. I am gonna notch the rocker in front of the rear tire and run side exhaust. Other than that will be ratty
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on June 18, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
 Awesome job on the suspension components!!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 20, 2016, 01:30:31 AM
Thanks keepat, it takes longer staring at it and figuring out how I want it done then it does to make the stuff lol. Got the shock locations and upper trailing arm mounts done today.  Hopefully my other 2 axle clamps show up tomorrow so I can finish the mock up
(https://s32.postimg.org/esksmfv11/20160619_222846.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/6qysyypu3/20160619_222757.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on June 20, 2016, 06:38:33 AM
High tech  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 22, 2016, 03:30:58 AM
What my brake system looks like under the hood.
(https://s32.postimg.org/rd7hk9wk5/20160621_191942.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on June 24, 2016, 03:50:36 AM
(https://s31.postimg.org/tlogxs7bv/20160623_165501.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/q3si83fyz/20160624_003257.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 03, 2016, 01:14:55 AM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13567050_1723887991196026_3393158266491436604_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=79dcd35fdc48ed580b43b195ac29c5f6&oe=5805F7E3)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13439204_1723888047862687_7839394565679948629_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=785d5f62867feb6e85756e6db15fb390&oe=57FA9176)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13524291_1723888021196023_1204187265454642139_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=87f29258d974cad955a2511152383a07&oe=57F141E2)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 03, 2016, 01:22:02 AM
Total cost to make this was $1000
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on July 03, 2016, 06:58:57 PM
Wow :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on July 03, 2016, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 03, 2016, 01:22:02 AM
Total cost to make this was $1000

Does that include the QA1 coilovers?
Could you post links to where you buy the joints and pieces that you didn't make?   Very interested in fabing up something like this if I do another build.   :2thumbs:   :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 10, 2016, 02:11:53 PM
Had to patch where the side exhaust is going to exit the quarter on both sides, it was just rotted too bad. Can't wait to actually see the exhaust on it. I ordered spintech 3" side exhaust mufflers and nice slant cut dual stainless tips. It will be x piped too, makes it sound more aggressive and adds rpm to the exhaust note.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13612196_10204952173884018_7636216036117231284_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9e2b6b411850a5d78b3d09061d38d0c5&oe=5830E105)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/13645071_10204952173924019_2702969635255099187_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=94a6dccbf4557f565395432732e16f22&oe=582AF0B0)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 10, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: garner7555 on July 03, 2016, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 03, 2016, 01:22:02 AM
Total cost to make this was $1000

Does that include the QA1 coilovers?
Could you post links to where you buy the joints and pieces that you didn't make?   Very interested in fabing up something like this if I do another build.   :2thumbs:   :coolgleamA:

Yes that was coil overs included. I ordered stuff from tmr and pirate4x4. Then the axle clamps and heims from lefthanderracing.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on July 10, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
The side exhaust will look awesome! Most mopar with a 4 link just stop the exhaust forward of the rear as there's no room for the exhaust pipe. The side exhaust will be a lot of work but worth it for the cool factor!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on July 10, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
I love how this is coming along!  Suspension looks fantastic and the exhaust is going to be an awesome touch. Everything about this build screams fun.

:2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 10, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: keepat on July 10, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
The side exhaust will look awesome! Most mopar with a 4 link just stop the exhaust forward of the rear as there's no room for the exhaust pipe. The side exhaust will be a lot of work but worth it for the cool factor!
Pat

Yeah it would be a lot more simple to just dump the exhaust, but how many quarter panel exhaust exit chargers are out there...lol. I want to also make A small 2" rear spoiler and a chin spoiler to also add more racer look to it. I'm sooo...gonna wear a mullet and fake mustache driving this car around town blarring the radio to scorpions lol can't wait
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on July 11, 2016, 01:03:57 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 10, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
Yeah it would be a lot more simple to just dump the exhaust, but how many quarter panel exhaust exit chargers are out there...lol. I want to also make A small 2" rear spoiler and a chin spoiler to also add more racer look to it. I'm sooo...gonna wear a mullet and fake mustache driving this car around town blarring the radio to scorpions lol can't wait


:musik010: :punkrocka:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 13, 2016, 02:48:04 PM
(https://s31.postimg.org/ghovqt0mz/20160713_122636.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on July 13, 2016, 04:15:38 PM
Looks awesome!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 14, 2016, 01:46:11 AM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13701014_10204971133277991_6585575123308149267_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: XS29L9B2 on July 14, 2016, 03:50:08 AM
nice work  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on July 14, 2016, 05:40:59 AM
Make sure you seal up those pipes or this may happen.......................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQKDQCYsEZM

This is a classic, worth watching. But my reference starts at the 1:51 mark.  :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on July 14, 2016, 06:49:25 AM
Great movie!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: ht4spd307 on July 14, 2016, 07:06:38 AM
heated seats nice :smoke:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Patronus on July 14, 2016, 07:37:35 AM
Were you the Spintech customer who got the two left mufflers?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 14, 2016, 09:25:41 AM
Heated seats...lol I'm hoping it won't be too bad, they will be ceramic coated and a heat shield made. Spintech lefts...not me, I'm still waiting for my mufflers, we're supposed to be here days ago
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on July 14, 2016, 09:37:45 AM
You are one talented dude! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 15, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
The drifting handbrake showed up, gonna mount it in the centerconsole. Also got the exhaust figured out. Modified the outlet on the muffler to a 45 degree exit to allow for tight clearance and minimal bends.
(https://s31.postimg.org/urs3udsmj/20160715_003455.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/h4sw1463f/20160715_005845.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/hk45u7cm3/20160715_012144.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/jh1chqrt7/20160715_012046.jpg)
(https://s32.postimg.org/k9788z6ph/20160715_012216.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 15, 2016, 12:29:06 PM
Should sound awesome...I ordered the loudest muffler spintech  offered, but if it not quite loud enough I'm gonna open it up and remove a baffle.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on July 15, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
Holy sh!t  :drive:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on July 15, 2016, 02:50:31 PM
I'm curious on how you will keep heat out with the exhaust like that. Great work so far can't wait to see finished car.

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 15, 2016, 03:00:21 PM
The floor will have heat vent holes and sealed in a tunnel with heat shielding over that. Should work decent. Plus it's going to all be ceramic coated which will drop the heat quite a bit. But...it's worth it for the cool factor of side exhaust lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Patronus on July 15, 2016, 05:34:07 PM
I like the exhaust  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: lukedukem on July 15, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 15, 2016, 03:00:21 PM
The floor will have heat vent holes and sealed in a tunnel with heat shielding over that. Should work decent. Plus it's going to all be ceramic coated which will drop the heat quite a bit. But...it's worth it for the cool factor of side exhaust lol

:2thumbs:

Luke
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on July 30, 2016, 02:52:55 AM
started on the cage today, made all my floor plates first and i wasnt going to bed tonight till the main hoop was in place lol. made the plates where the main hoop can slip thru and adjust height and then i could tie it into the subframe connector from below. the main hoop plates will be all boxed in to the rocker ones its set. the cage is going to be a 12 point front to back trying to tie in all major frame connections. day by day im getting closer to driving this bucket lol
(https://s31.postimg.org/aa7m7zox7/20160730_003430_resized.jpg)
(https://s32.postimg.org/65f34z7t1/20160730_003343_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: peter123wallace on July 30, 2016, 09:27:27 AM
Awesome build mate! Here is one video for motivation! :D
http://www.nocarnofun.com/1971-roaring-dodge-charger-rt-doesnt-have-horsepower-it-has-rhinopower/
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 01, 2016, 12:25:16 AM
my project this weekend was the roll cage but since it was my first roll cage ive built i went kinda slow. i still have more bars to add, braces that tie the roof to the cage and then some fancy shmancy gusset bracing. cage was tricky as i wanted a back seat without people hitting their heads on it, glove box to function and visors to work. hoping i can finish the cage this week and get started on the fuel system. the dash and interior bezels do not go to this car, they were just used for mock up.
(https://s31.postimg.org/cpjc8akez/20160731_221042_resized.jpg)
(https://s32.postimg.org/z8vz9klvp/20160731_221103_resized.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/a3t1p6u97/20160731_221256_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 01, 2016, 02:08:35 AM
(https://s32.postimg.org/9ypnu63xh/20160801_000127_resized.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/4zwq49ad7/20160801_000211_resized.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/9e9cafj2z/20160801_000234_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on August 01, 2016, 02:13:24 AM
Sh!T you got a lot done since I left out of there.  :2thumbs:

The pass. side front bar looks good as I know it was kicking your A$$.

:cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on August 01, 2016, 09:21:14 AM
That's a great looking cage! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 09, 2016, 03:30:31 AM
im really looking forward to making the brushed aluminum dimple die'd filler panels inside all the triangulated bars. will add a nice racey look to it. as for the cage, im going to scotch pad the whole thing and clear it so it has a nice brushed look aswell. i think it will look good with the stock tan interior. gonna go get some extra aluminum so i can make a fast 8 style rear spoiler for her once cage is done(https://s10.postimg.org/azoso1rl5/20160807_120921_resized_1.jpg)

i couldnt stand looking at the crease and damage in the quarter of daisy, luckily i just did quarter on another charger for a customer and like the native americans i didnt let it go to waste lol
(https://s9.postimg.org/oef85jqv3/20160809_002739_resized.jpg)

only pic i have that shows the damage before
(https://s10.postimg.org/4j39s9fzd/20160116_130448_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 10, 2016, 02:40:14 AM
made brackets to mount my new swaybar setup to the rear end housing. i didnt want to mount the bar to the axle and then run the arms rearward but there was very little room to go forward. the arms have 6 positions so i can change the rate of the bar for different conditions. i still need to make the end link brackets though
(https://s9.postimg.org/qfan75m7z/20160809_234047_resized.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/fe6l1x64p/20160809_234504_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on August 10, 2016, 05:18:55 AM
Looking good!!    :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: chargedup68 on August 13, 2016, 11:23:48 AM
Cool build! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on August 13, 2016, 03:52:16 PM
 :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger_Fan on August 13, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
You are doing some really neat stuff on this build, I likey! :yesnod:  I can't wait to see some vids of Daisy burnin' rubber!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 19, 2016, 01:58:30 AM
finished installing the donor skin piece from a customer take off quarter
(https://s4.postimg.org/ntq4l0ha5/20160817_004308_resized.jpg)
got one side of the coilover mount done, step by step getting closer
(https://s4.postimg.org/6mljytm8t/20160818_234300_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 21, 2016, 11:48:03 AM
made the passenger side a pillar bar removable so i can remove the dash when needed.
(https://s14.postimg.org/a1no0c7gh/20160821_010020_resized.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.org/urt3vayn3/20160821_010059_resized.jpg)
finished the drivers side shock tower hoop
(https://s13.postimg.org/4nizgdl87/20160820_004848_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on August 21, 2016, 12:14:17 PM
Excellent work!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on August 21, 2016, 05:55:20 PM
Very nice fab work!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 04, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
got some A pillar gussets in
(https://s9.postimg.org/bq5dpzcjj/20160904_015146_resized.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/xgoesg06x/20160904_015205_resized.jpg)
(https://s12.postimg.org/n3x8pbryl/20160903_223648_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Sixshooter on September 04, 2016, 03:03:48 PM
Looks great. Really clean fab work!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on September 04, 2016, 04:04:52 PM
Looks good, but isnt it going to cause a killer blind spot?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 04, 2016, 05:23:48 PM
no, its in line of sight with the original A pillar. no different from the drivers seat looking at this vs. an A pillar molding
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on September 04, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on September 04, 2016, 05:23:48 PM
no, its in line of sight with the original A pillar. no different from the drivers seat looking at this vs. an A pillar molding

Must just be the angle looks further back. Continue on! bad azz build!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on September 04, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
Great fab work,  as always.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cavemanno1 on September 05, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
I can't wait to hear that exhaust!Great work!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on September 05, 2016, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: cavemanno1 on September 05, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
I can't wait to hear that exhaust!Great work!
:iagree:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on September 05, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on September 05, 2016, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: cavemanno1 on September 05, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
I can't wait to hear that exhaust!Great work!
:iagree:

X2
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 11, 2016, 04:59:31 PM
finish welding my exhaust, i finally broke down and bought a tig welder. so glad i did, its awesome...takes about 3x longer to weld but totally worth it.
(https://s15.postimg.org/5by57h5fv/14311361_10205324551113216_2534281621151215913_o.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on September 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
Nice tig welds!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 11, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
gonna look so mean slammed down on 10" deep dish rims up front and 11's in the rear. cant wait to get it on the ground again.
(https://s4.postimg.org/j76s0nmwd/14241514_10205324877281370_3917801636717173721_o.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on September 11, 2016, 07:29:20 PM
That will look bada$$ with 10's up front. What is the plan to make the clear everything?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on September 11, 2016, 08:02:14 PM
Love it
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on September 11, 2016, 08:19:17 PM
Awesome build   :2thumbs:   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 11, 2016, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: RallyeMike on September 11, 2016, 07:29:20 PM
That will look bada$$ with 10's up front. What is the plan to make the clear everything?

hack out and replace to clear lol but i dont think i have to clearance much, looks like it will all clear
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on September 11, 2016, 09:17:52 PM
 :hack:  :yesnod:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on September 11, 2016, 09:28:10 PM
This is awesome  :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Joostdodge on September 11, 2016, 09:44:12 PM
Saturday we went to you chris for a visit and man real skills you have! Looks real clean and nice the work and welds real nice
Also was great to hear your storys and thanks for let us see your cars and take the time to talk to us.
this is gonna be a bad ass car!

:2thumbs:
Joost and Alex the Dutchguys
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: WHITE AND RED 69 on September 12, 2016, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on September 11, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
gonna look so mean slammed down on 10" deep dish rims up front and 11's in the rear. cant wait to get it on the ground again.
(https://s4.postimg.org/j76s0nmwd/14241514_10205324877281370_3917801636717173721_o.jpg)

Nice!!! The stance is going to look killer with the wheels tucked in like that! What size tires are you going with?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 16, 2016, 02:36:48 AM
i realized that the stock lower control arm wont function right without the torsion bar, the bushing wont be the pivot point but the metal sleeve for the adjuster arm will rotate metal on metal. so i decided to make some better control arms anyway. fixed the balljoint angle for lowered cars, coilover mount will be pushed closer to the ball joint and because all spring rate will be at the ball joint and not having to travel the whole length of the control arms  from the pivot point of the torsion , there is no need to have a really beefy one. i also made it adjustable length and the strut rod will be a bolt on clevis type instead of a bolt thru arm so it can adjust for control arm length. still have to add the strot rod, coilove mount and swaybar mount
(https://s13.postimg.org/3urpughbb/20160915_224907_resized.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.org/6v5aw1fvj/20160916_000557_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on September 18, 2016, 07:04:03 AM
You have real skills there my friend. After years of working on/ building cars and motorcycles I would consider myself a reasonable welder/ fabber.......but I bow to your superior abilities Sir. I was going to put my build thread on here but I might just show it when complete. Too many skilled folks (you, Keepat etc etc) that might make my skills look adequate at best!! LOL! :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 18, 2016, 11:05:51 AM
thanks for the compliments but dont be afraid to post up your build project. heck i look at keepats build and learn from it, along with other members i get tips and tricks from that i didnt know. we all need to share our knowledge
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on September 18, 2016, 01:44:26 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: bull on September 18, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on June 18, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
Yeah its still gonna be ratty, I'm gonna point out some of the dents though. I am gonna notch the rocker in front of the rear tire and run side exhaust. Other than that will be ratty

What are your plans for the quarter patch? Are you going to try to blend it with the rusted yellow or leave it as-is?

Are you fabricating all those suspension parts? Awesome work, if so. Looks like a machine did it.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 19, 2016, 04:11:52 AM
ran into steve, the owner of "welderup" tv show at a local classic car swap meet on saturday. i had my 70 r/t on a trailer just to gather attention for the parts i was selling (nothing mopar). it worked...got alot of attention as that is how i met steve. we got to bullshitting and he is building a new ratrod out of a 68 charger. i told him about "daisy" my 69 ratmuscle car and he asked if he could check it out. he loved it, said "you are going to get a fuck ton of attention with this thing right here on the streets" lol. he was cool, we hung out for a bit. the pic is his 57 chevy ratmuscle
(https://s13.postimg.org/hh03thxc7/20160918_125047_resized.jpg)

just waiting on the strut rod tab to finish the lowers, the company sent the wrong part number tabs, but got the shock and swaybar tabs on
(https://s18.postimg.org/7xtuvcwa1/20160917_004703_resized.jpg)

got the gas tank in but im not really diggin it. i may have to put a fuel cell in it
(https://s21.postimg.org/cpzux7dev/20160919_011447_resized.jpg)

now that i have a jerico 4 speed on its way, i had to add a clutch pedal, rummaged thru my old circle track stuff and found a floor mount pedal. i mounted it upside down, cut the pedal pad free to re-angle and mounted the clutch master outside the firewal. then heat up th brake lever and bend it under the column.
(https://s18.postimg.org/w3jijzlo9/20160919_011647_resized.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/7wtz8ok9l/20160919_011951_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on September 19, 2016, 05:19:48 AM
 :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on September 19, 2016, 08:56:43 AM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 19, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
when you dont own any carpenter tools and ur new (used) jerico 4 speed shows all crated up...lol
(http://s15.postimg.org/u3zi91dxn/20160919_112747_resized.jpg)
(http://s10.postimg.org/7xxg1gnpl/20160919_115803_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 21, 2016, 04:52:46 AM
i think tig welding stainless was the hardest to get it down right after doing steel and aluminum. was able to get it figured out. good thing i started on the top side of the exhaust first lol
(http://s15.postimg.org/dtaxmhhez/20160921_020229_resized.jpg)
(http://s17.postimg.org/ccnk9zbf3/20160921_020338_resized.jpg)

so to save cost on installing the jerico, im going to try and use some of my circle track parts. 5.5" triple disc clutch, 5.5" reverse mount belhousing, starter and throwout bearing.
(http://s15.postimg.org/r0142t7d7/20160921_020629_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: charger chris on September 21, 2016, 07:28:38 AM
Looks good. I love tig wielding it much easer then mig. I am not sure why :scratchchin: . But ur wields look good to me :2thumbs: . :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 23, 2016, 01:23:25 PM
finished product of my tubular lower control arms, adjustable length and caster
(http://s13.postimg.org/dqmbn9s0n/20160923_011023_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 24, 2016, 03:49:14 PM
she moves up and down so smooth now, its almost a roller again. sad thing is i might not even use this whole k frame setup and just make another tubular k frame for rack and pinion with wilwood spidles. atleast if i decide to use it, its there

(http://s4.postimg.org/lwowpqywt/20160924_132916_resized.jpg)
(http://s4.postimg.org/5zq4t16il/20160924_132931_resized.jpg)
(http://s4.postimg.org/3wkaz3w3h/20160924_133107_resized.jpg)
(http://s4.postimg.org/bdtieblml/20160924_133228_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on September 24, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
Looking good.   Can't wait to see this car out on a road course!    :2thumbs:   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 25, 2016, 03:52:26 AM
rewind alot of hrs and $ ago...here is how i found her
(http://s22.postimg.org/l0f6yfyjl/IMG_20151207_085249590_HDR_zpslbztgfae.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on September 29, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
exhaust tunnel, gotta finish them so i can get everything ceramic coated at one time
(https://s18.postimg.org/64lhebkyx/20160929_021426_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 03, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
trying to finish up my 2nd exhaust tunnel but ran out of gas, tacked it together in the car with mig then finish welding on the bench. was hoping to move onto my front sway bar setup but the delron bushings lefthander sent were machined wrong, now gotta wait longer. i really didnt wanna get under it and remove all the factory undercoating so i conned a buddy into doing it for me lol. i got the 2nd calipers mounted for the handbrake aswell

(https://s17.postimg.org/53lqw0pnz/20161003_112328_resized.jpg)
(https://s17.postimg.org/geoekdwj3/20161003_112223_resized.jpg)
(https://s21.postimg.org/ngidyddev/20161003_123750_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on October 03, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
Nice double calibers, great welding skills.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 08, 2016, 04:01:50 AM
just those little touches make all the difference
(https://s21.postimg.org/g1g2536zb/20161007_215756_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on October 08, 2016, 06:14:07 AM
Very cool looking!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Hemidog on October 09, 2016, 05:45:48 AM
This is sweet! :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
working on a rear spoiler now, ive still gotta grind all the welds down so it looks like a 1 piece deal, add the lexan center kicker and add the spoiler braces
(https://s9.postimg.org/5w9x0xdbj/20161009_165957_resized.jpg)
(https://s9.postimg.org/n8a9md6sv/20161009_165943_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on October 09, 2016, 07:56:16 PM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
ha...lennard, thats 1 person who likes my charg-ero spoiler lol  :nana:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on October 09, 2016, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
ha...lennard, thats 1 person who likes my charg-ero spoiler lol  :nana:
Hey, just because I'm not a fan of a seventies Camaro spoiler on a Charger...doesn't mean others won't like it. ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 10:57:37 PM
Lol just messing with ya
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on October 09, 2016, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 10:57:37 PM
Lol just messing with ya
Shame on you,  you hurt my feelings!  :slap:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 10, 2016, 01:11:51 AM
(https://s18.postimg.org/ktkvcrmdl/20161009_224449_resized_(1).jpg)
(https://s18.postimg.org/k2s56zk09/20161009_224217_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on October 10, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
I'm loving this build
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 11, 2016, 03:34:39 AM

Sexy beast lol
(https://s13.postimg.org/6i70n6ayv/20161011_011339.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 11, 2016, 06:17:38 AM
This is so awesome cb.

Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread, but what engine/trans are you putting in this?

I think I'd actually prefer a lightweight small block for better weight distribution if it were mine.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 11, 2016, 01:55:54 PM
Quote from: JR on October 11, 2016, 06:17:38 AM
This is so awesome cb.

Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread, but what engine/trans are you putting in this?

I think I'd actually prefer a lightweight small block for better weight distribution if it were mine.

For now big block, I have an aluminum ls2 I'm going to use soon
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on October 11, 2016, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 09, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
ha...lennard, thats 1 person who likes my charg-ero spoiler lol  :nana:


I like it, the way you made it looks great, all the molded ones seen look like crap.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 12, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 11, 2016, 01:55:54 PM
Quote from: JR on October 11, 2016, 06:17:38 AM
This is so awesome cb.

Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread, but what engine/trans are you putting in this?

I think I'd actually prefer a lightweight small block for better weight distribution if it were mine.

For now big block, I have an aluminum ls2 I'm going to use soon



That'll be awesome. Less than 500lbs on the nose. You'll probably have room to set it back some too I'm guessing.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 14, 2016, 03:14:26 AM
bought a fuel cell for it and just modified it to how i want the dimensions. it was a 20x10x18 now it is a 20x6x26. i also added baffles in for fuel slosh. gotta make the fuel cell cage so it can bolt on to the chassis.
(https://s14.postimg.org/5aj7a3lq9/20161014_005924_resized.jpg)
(https://s14.postimg.org/xm4r755mp/20161014_005909_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 14, 2016, 10:28:26 AM
these are the wheels im thinking of for daisy...17x9.5 front and 17x11 rear minilites. they are really expensive but wheels can make or break a car. i want the vintage style roadrace look and i think these will set it off.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/68fbjjz109/vettetrack21_zpsa57ffda0.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Troy on October 14, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
I love Minilites! But often wonder if they'd look right on a car as big as a Charger.

Troy
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 14, 2016, 11:12:32 AM
Quote from: Troy on October 14, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
I love Minilites! But often wonder if they'd look right on a car as big as a Charger.

Troy


Well, if Dajibans can pull them off.... :icon_smile_big:

(https://omgpancakes.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dajiban.jpg?w=655)

(http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/High-Speed-Molester-Van-4.jpg)

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Troy on October 14, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: JR on October 14, 2016, 11:12:32 AM
Quote from: Troy on October 14, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
I love Minilites! But often wonder if they'd look right on a car as big as a Charger.

Troy


Well, if Dajibans can pull them off.... :icon_smile_big:

(https://omgpancakes.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dajiban.jpg?w=655)

(http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/High-Speed-Molester-Van-4.jpg)


It may have them but I don't think it looks good...

Troy
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 15, 2016, 07:55:32 AM
started making my fuel cell cage but i ran out of aluminum. the fuel cell and its cage is still lighter than a stock gas tank and sits 1" higher.
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 17, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
just ordered my wheels and tires, was soooo hard to press the final button to order as it was $3,000. oh well...wheels will make or break a car so just got it over with. 17x11's in the rear and 17x9.5's up front. 5" backspace on both
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: WHITE AND RED 69 on October 17, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
Excellent choice on wheels!  :2thumbs:  I've been wanting to get a set of those for a while but can't justify getting rid of my current ones.

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 18, 2016, 02:52:00 AM
the lowest point of the fuel cell is the same height of the stock tank
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on October 20, 2016, 07:22:20 AM
I really like the tank setup!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 20, 2016, 10:01:07 AM
(https://s16.postimg.org/w0osm4y9h/20161019_123607_resized.png)
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 20, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
Lovin' the Minilites....a very nice touch of British class !
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on October 20, 2016, 12:40:55 PM
Quote from: alfaitalia on October 20, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
Lovin' the Minilites....a very nice touch of British class !
What!? British class on American muscle?  You need different wheels Chris!!  ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 20, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Don't forget the 440 big block was the lump powering the very British Jenson Intercepter FF ..the four wheel drive version....from the seventies. So nothing wrong with a bit of a US/British hybridization now and again!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on October 20, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
Dam those look good!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 20, 2016, 03:38:35 PM
I LOVE them! The stance is killer!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on October 20, 2016, 10:01:34 PM
Stance??? On jack stands???
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 21, 2016, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on October 20, 2016, 10:01:34 PM
Stance??? On jack stands???

I'm assuming weight is on the suspension, and that's pretty close to how it will sit.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on October 21, 2016, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JR on October 21, 2016, 12:07:16 AM
I'm assuming weight is on the suspension, and that's pretty close to how it will sit.

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: XS29L9B2 on October 21, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
Very Nice wheels
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger_Fan on October 21, 2016, 12:00:59 PM
Dang, those do look good! :drool5:  So does the rest of the car too, keep at it! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on October 22, 2016, 09:46:02 AM
I'm interested to see the brand and type of tire going on those wheels.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 22, 2016, 10:42:53 AM
toyo r888 roadracing tires
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 22, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on October 22, 2016, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 22, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
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this looks good  :yesnod:  :coolgleamA:   :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on October 23, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
   
What brand of DIY swaybar setup is that, anyway?  Any comments on the choice of it? 

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on October 23, 2016, 07:25:02 AM
awesome swaybar!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 25, 2016, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 23, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
   
What brand of DIY swaybar setup is that, anyway?  Any comments on the choice of it? 


its just a speedway engineering torsion sway bar. 1.325 bar with .75 hollow center. with my front and rear sway bars i should be able to strap rossie odonnel and honey boo boo's mom to the roof and still have no sway in the body
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 26, 2016, 03:34:45 AM
had to cut out the snubber area and raise it up, at the ride height i wanted the yoke was almost hitting the rear seat pan.
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on October 26, 2016, 07:54:05 AM
Hey I heard honey boo boos mom lost some weight and is hot now......just kidding of course
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 31, 2016, 12:37:53 AM
doing some old school work tonight, hammer and dolling out some wheel flares
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on October 31, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
Wow, looks mean!   :2thumbs:

How wide are those tires?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 31, 2016, 12:54:10 AM
315/35/17
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on October 31, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
MEAN LOOKING  :flame: :naughty:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: challenger70 on November 03, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 31, 2016, 12:54:10 AM
315/35/17

Mind sharing where you got the wheels?  I was thinking about some for my Challenger for many years and I think I am ready after seeing them on your Charger.  They look awsesome! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: XS29L9B2 on November 03, 2016, 01:54:54 PM
perfect very good  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 03, 2016, 02:21:16 PM
Vintage wheels, v48 style
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 03, 2016, 02:28:01 PM
I going to admit theft..in advance......gonna steel your exhaust design!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: sean257 on November 05, 2016, 11:31:25 AM
Stance is awesome, exhaust is awesome, this is going to be badass!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 05, 2016, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: alfaitalia on November 03, 2016, 02:28:01 PM
I going to admit theft..in advance......gonna steel your exhaust design!

Patent pending lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Finn on November 07, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Hey Chris, good catching up with you at the Fall Fling. This build is awesome, keep the progress pics coming.  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 17, 2016, 02:54:36 PM
got me a snow plow fabbed up now  :rofl: still gotta finish welding and then give it a brushed finish
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Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on November 18, 2016, 10:15:28 AM
Well, I think this Charger is officially ruined now.

But that's not my opinion :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 03:20:40 PM
out with the big block to get ready for the new 350lb lighter drivetrain...built ls3 with 7.25" twin disc clutch and jerico 4 speed  :D
(https://s14.postimg.org/cf4x3ziq9/20161122_095323_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 22, 2016, 04:53:11 PM
Unfollow.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: marshallfry01 on November 22, 2016, 05:12:26 PM
I'm curious to see how well that Chevy motor and trans is going to fit. Keep the pics coming.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 22, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 03:20:40 PM
out with the big block to get ready for the new 350lb lighter drivetrain...built ls3 with 7.25" twin disc clutch and jerico 4 speed  :D
(https://s14.postimg.org/cf4x3ziq9/20161122_095323_resized.jpg)

Oh......and it was all going so well too! Lol!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on November 22, 2016, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on November 22, 2016, 04:53:11 PM
Unfollow.
:iagree:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on November 22, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
 :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :cheers: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on November 22, 2016, 06:25:30 PM
I love it.  Great thread, can't wait to see more.

Looks like it would be pretty easy to put back to a stock powertrain if you wanted, so I don't see the big deal there.

:2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on November 22, 2016, 06:58:42 PM
Most professional Formula D cars (regardless of make) use either the LS, or 2JZ because they've proven themselves to be the most reliable and durable under the stress of repetitive drifting events. The engine is a fine choice for what he's going to be doing with it.

It's a whole different set of priorities for a drift/road course build. Light weight and high RPMs for higher wheel speed take priority over big block torque, 5500 rpm redline and "Mopar or No car" cred an equivalent 440 would have.

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 22, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
I just like the project before and now I don't it's that simple.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JB400 on November 22, 2016, 08:25:03 PM
I like "Dare to be different", but some push it too far.  I'm just waiting for the final results. :popcrn: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 22, 2016, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 22, 2016, 08:25:03 PM
I like "Dare to be different", but some push it too far.  I'm just waiting for the final results. :popcrn: :popcrn:

I agree. I'm really not that against other brand engines in some cars and the lack engines are great . I just think a dart or a Polaris would be less offending.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
when the hood is down, sliding around the track billowing smoke or racing around on a roadcourse who cares what engine is in it...ill be having a blast  :nana:. im shooting for 3000lbs is my goal with me in it, ill get it there one way or another
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on November 22, 2016, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
when the hood is down, sliding around the track billowing smoke or racing around on a roadcourse who cares what engine is in it...ill be having a blast  :nana:. im shooting for 3000lbs is my goal with me in it, ill get it there one way or another

I agree!  The LS is a wise move for what you are doing.  Huge aftermarket support for those powertrains.   :2thumbs:     :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on November 22, 2016, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on November 22, 2016, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 22, 2016, 08:25:03 PM
I like "Dare to be different", but some push it too far.  I'm just waiting for the final results. :popcrn: :popcrn:

I agree. I'm really not that against other brand engines in some cars and the lack engines are great . I just think a dart or a Polaris would be less offending.

                                                                                         :iagree:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on November 22, 2016, 11:44:11 PM
  
Why run a GM V8?  Why don't you just run a cheap junkyard Mopar aluminum-block V8?   Oh, wait - Mopar doesn't make one.


Oh, well.  I guess we can't be too picky about such a cutting edge thing . .  err, wait . . . Ford and GM both made them 20 years ago.  Europe & Japan even earlier.



Maybe it's too much to expect Mopar to do the additional engineering for such a project if their iron blocks are working well enough . . . . but they've had an alloy block in the MP catalog ($4500) for years.


I guess Mopar's muscle cars just don't need the weight savings that much?   No, that's not true either.  The new Chargers & Challenger are 4300+ lbs.  They are the butt of jokes because of it.

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 12:49:57 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 22, 2016, 11:44:11 PM
 
Why run a GM V8?  Why don't you just run a cheap junkyard Mopar aluminum-block V8?   Oh, wait - Mopar doesn't make one.


Oh, well.  I guess we can't be too picky about such a cutting edge thing . .  err, wait . . . Ford and GM both made them 20 years ago.  Europe & Japan even earlier.



Maybe it's too much to expect Mopar to do the additional engineering for such a project if their iron blocks are working well enough . . . . but they've had an alloy block in the MP catalog ($4500) for years.


I guess Mopar's muscle cars just don't need the weight savings that much?   No, that's not true either.  The new Chargers & Challenger are 4300+ lbs.  They are the butt of jokes because of it.



:cheers: well said...wake up mopar
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on November 23, 2016, 05:21:57 AM
So... he is worried about weight savings but uses a 69 Charger as a foundation?  :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 23, 2016, 05:27:43 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
when the hood is down, sliding around the track billowing smoke or racing around on a roadcourse who cares what engine is in it...ill be having a blast  :nana:. im shooting for 3000lbs is my goal with me in it, ill get it there one way or another

3000lb ....(1363 kg!) that's less than a current model small engine VW Golf.....quite a target!

The shell alone (with doors, hood, trunk lid and glass) weighs in at over 1000lb.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on November 23, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: RCCDrew on November 23, 2016, 05:21:57 AM
So... he is worried about weight savings but uses a 69 Charger as a foundation?  :smilielol:


                :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 23, 2016, 08:59:48 AM
My biggest problem with it , is that this car was gonna be a great example of a mopar with mods and now and nows gonna be another easy way out Chevy powered turd.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on November 23, 2016, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on November 23, 2016, 08:59:48 AM
My biggest problem with it , is that this car was gonna be a great example of a mopar with mods and now and nows gonna be another easy way out Chevy powered turd.

  another YEP !!! The build on this car is awesome!!! some really great thought & ideas, But
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 10:25:53 AM
those who disagree are purists....i get it. put ur pure mopar charger agaisnt mine and lets see the outcome. obviously your not racers or care about handling as you would understand, but those watching and taking pictures of a charger sliding around billowing smoke, running lap times equal to pro touring camaro's or even just sitting at a stop light across from me will have a different outlook.

those saying worried about weight saving but used a charger...you do realize a charger platform is actually pretty light weight, its the heavy ass drivetrain and suspension that puts them in the 3850lb catagory. the stock big block engine and trans is every bit of 850lbs and i have removed 700lbs from my charger already. i just scaled my buddies 66 chevelle with an ls2 in it and it was still at 3280lbs. i already got that chevelle beat and im in the same weight bracket as ls swapped camaro's.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 23, 2016, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 10:25:53 AM
those who disagree are purists....i get it. obviously your not racers or care about handling as you would understand, but those watching and taking pictures of a charger sliding around billowing smoke, running lap times equal to pro touring camaro's or even just sitting at a stop light across from them will have a different outlook.

those saying worried about weight saving but used a charger...you do realize a charger platform is actually pretty light weight, its the heavy ass drivetrain and suspension that puts them in the 3850lb catagory. the stock big block engine and trans is every bit of 850lbs and i have removed 700lbs from my charger already. i just scaled my buddies 66 chevelle with an ls2 in it and it was still at 3280lbs. i already got that chevelle beat and im in the same weight bracket as ls swapped camaro's.  :yesnod:

No. i think it would be cooler yet if you did it while staying true to the car. to me if you pulled it off with a mopar engine of any kind it would mean far more than this way.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 68RT440 on November 23, 2016, 10:43:17 AM
I get it for sure. I'm a die hard and would always put a Mopar drivetrain in any Mopar that I build, however I work at a hot rod shop and 90% of the cars we build (which are 95% Fords) get a small block Chevy. They are easy to work on, easy to get parts for and fit in the smaller chassis. So I understand both sides of it. A lot of Mustang guys that I talk to love the LS swaps. I personally couldn't do it to my Mustang, but I know and understand where they are coming from from a cost vs. performance standpoint. I say build it how you want. There's no denying that's a bad ass car and you have some serious fab skills...
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 23, 2016, 10:44:35 AM
To be honest it will be a great car LS...or not ....but..... to me (just my opinion obviously) to heart and soul of a Charger is its motor and to me that only means BIG BLOCK and preferably 440 plus. I'm sure a man of your skills could get a stroked 440 built well enough to go just about as quick with the heavy mopar lump in it (look how much weight keepat has lost from his Mopar (ish!) engine on his Bullit Build).....It can be done....but yes the LS is easier (and cheaper I guess??). I will still be following this thread with interest (and nicking ideas!!).....but now I like it a lot....don't think I could love it.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
i have the LS now, but if i come across a cheap 6.1 hemi or a nascar r5 engine soon i would consider it. especially the r5 engine, 10,000rpm...yes please
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on November 23, 2016, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
i have the LS now, but if i come across a cheap 6.1 hemi or a nascar r5 engine soon i would consider it. especially the r5 engine, 10,000rpm...yes please

The r5 would be AWESOME.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 23, 2016, 11:01:35 AM
Here ya go....yours for a mere $14,000! Runs on pump fuel too. Being British (not much NASCAR coverage here....like none!) I had to look up to see what an R5 even was!!

http://www.eatmonraceparts.com/fresh-built-nascar-dodge-mopar-r5-p7-wet-sump-engine-pump-gas-745hp-540-ft-lb-torque/ (http://www.eatmonraceparts.com/fresh-built-nascar-dodge-mopar-r5-p7-wet-sump-engine-pump-gas-745hp-540-ft-lb-torque/)

:cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Troy on November 23, 2016, 11:03:46 AM
For some reason I had thought this was always planned as an LS swap so I went back and looked at the first post and it mentions a fuel injected twin turbo 440 with A518. But then I see it changed to a 6-speed and so on.

Any way, I agree with Mike - if you want best bang for the buck you really can't use Mopar engines. I love the new crate Hemis (for example) but could buy a new GM crate with a transmission, computer, and wiring for less and have a lighter assembly. Trolling through the junkyards makes it even more lopsided. However, that doesn't mean it can't be done using all Mopar stuff - it will almost assuredly cost a lot more. There's a somewhat famous wheelstanding 69 Charger in St Louis that has a blown BBC in it. Everyone loves the car until they figure it out and then they mostly hate it. I bet the guy driving it still smiles every time he gets in it! So is the intention to impress people or have a car that's crazy fun without costing a fortune? I don't have any problem with swaps as long as they make sense. I doubt I'd personally ever do it to a Charger. But hey, this was a car that hardly anyone else would have tackled in the first place.

Troy
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on November 23, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
There's a fly in my soup.  :rotz:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: alfaitalia on November 23, 2016, 11:01:35 AM
Here ya go....yours for a mere $14,000! Runs on pump fuel too. Being British (not much NASCAR coverage here....like none!) I had to look up to see what an R5 even was!!

http://www.eatmonraceparts.com/fresh-built-nascar-dodge-mopar-r5-p7-wet-sump-engine-pump-gas-745hp-540-ft-lb-torque/ (http://www.eatmonraceparts.com/fresh-built-nascar-dodge-mopar-r5-p7-wet-sump-engine-pump-gas-745hp-540-ft-lb-torque/)

:cheers:

i had the chance to buy three r5 engines from kroyer here in town for 10k...i kick myself in the ass everytime i think about it...when i finally decided i should do it they were gone. complete engines with drysump, carbs, belhousing and clutch, stupid stupid stupid...
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: challenger70 on November 23, 2016, 12:27:30 PM
We should start a "go fund me" page to keep this Charger all Mopar.  Maybe it will be a Christmas miracle!  Help this poor Charger, for just 50cents a day you can prevent a tragedy.  Any plans for the homeless 440?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
The Mopar gods have shined down on me and I had a guy call me and offer an aluminum block Nascar r5p7 engine for cheap!!! Staying Mopar now
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on November 23, 2016, 05:40:06 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
The Mopar gods have shined down on me and I had a guy call me and offer an aluminum block Nascar r5p7 engine for cheap!!! Staying Mopar now


Really ?  so does that mean I can like you again :)  HAHA   VERY COOL
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on November 23, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 23, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
The Mopar gods have shined down on me and I had a guy call me and offer an aluminum block Nascar r5p7 engine for cheap!!! Staying Mopar now
Everyone can sleep easy tonight now
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 23, 2016, 07:46:51 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Homerr on November 23, 2016, 07:53:52 PM
 :eek2:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JB400 on November 23, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Honestly, I think the R5p7 will fit this build just that much better. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on November 24, 2016, 01:24:51 AM
QuoteHonestly, I think the R5p7 will fit this build just that much better. 2thumbs

Agreed. 

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 24, 2016, 07:32:25 AM
That's better......look at this>>    https://vimeo.com/5720241 (https://vimeo.com/5720241)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on November 24, 2016, 01:55:47 PM
 :boogie: :notworthy:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: ACUDANUT on November 24, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
9,000 RPM ? WOW
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on November 25, 2016, 12:04:22 AM
 :woohoo:  When can we see a picture of the install of the r5p7 engine.   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 25, 2016, 02:45:12 AM
having to do a quarter patch on the left side now, metal was not good enough to try an flare it for the tire to fit. good and bad i guess. i kinda thought it would be funny having a quarter panel flapping in the wind around the track but i guess its for the better
(https://s13.postimg.org/ef9ypchrr/20161124_224457_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: djcarguy on November 25, 2016, 07:01:56 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 22, 2016, 03:20:40 PM
out with the big block to get ready for the new 350lb lighter drivetrain...built ls3 with 7.25" twin disc clutch and jerico 4 speed  :D
(https://s14.postimg.org/cf4x3ziq9/20161122_095323_resized.jpg)
:popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mikko on November 27, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Really really interesting build :) Read it quickly through at one sit but had to take time and read it again with time.

So you have plans to really drift with it? What are your thoughts with steering, other areas is suspension seems legit for that with suitable spring ratios and dampers :)

Engine choice, i´m building clean streeto ´70 myself and when also palying with Gm stuff, i was really thinking LS swap too, but went with 6.1 route.

I drift my self with 2gen Camaro, with supercharged LS3 and boy i love that engine, Camaro is pretty much just drift car, also capable to circuit racing but i´d really want similar tech setup also for street car.
I convinced my friend to do r5p7 swap for his S15 drifting Nissan but think that has been bit of dissapointment in powerwise, other friend from here otherwise has been really happy with same engine in his 65 drag Valiant.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 27, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
I know the r5p7 has no low end grunt and needs a high rear gear. I still like the ls3 better but I think overall the r5p7 would have a better cool factor
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on November 27, 2016, 09:12:14 PM
QuoteI know the r5p7 has no low end grunt and needs a high rear gear.

Makes sense.  It's a circle-track smallblock.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on November 27, 2016, 09:31:30 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 27, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
I know the r5p7 has no low end grunt and needs a high rear gear. I still like the ls3 better but I think overall the r5p7 would have a better cool factor

Can't you just cam it to bring torque curve down?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 27, 2016, 09:45:24 PM
They have a short throw on the crankshaft to sustain 9,000rpm for hrs on end of racing plus there is a 360ci rule in nascar. So bigger plunger and shorter stroke is the better option. I think its only like 3.25-3.30 depending on what track it was built for. The same guy also has a stroked aluminum r5 engine to 410ci that makes 900hp but it's 15:1 compression.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on November 27, 2016, 10:15:40 PM
          
I imagine you could stroke the hell out of that motor with a new rotating assy.  Like way over 400 inches.  


You probably don't want to yank apart a complete & powerful motor that you just bought.  But it would make a good future plan.  
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JB400 on November 27, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
If it was me, I'd leave the motor alone and just put a quick change rear end under the car.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 27, 2016, 10:36:31 PM
I just wanna drive it already...I've gotta get it mocked up and on the ground. The producers for the show welderup wanna do a little skit with daisy and my parts. They are coming on dec. 2nd. Maybe I can get a rat muscle reality show lol jk
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 27, 2016, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 27, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
If it was me, I'd leave the motor alone and just put a quick change rear end under the car.
That's actually a good idea for road trips then swap gears at the track
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mikko on November 28, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
R5 stroker parts were quite pricey if i recall...

We haven´t find proper power figures for those, some found online in engine dyno and then pulls starting from 4-5000rpm so i didn´t have any idea as its low end capapility earlier. Guess main reason for those just high end figures shown that those use normally solid advance distributor.

My friends Nissan were run in wheel dyno and it did have suprisingly good low end torque, but was lacking quite much on high end and power figures dont rise much after 75000rpm alltought it spins high. But that engine is modified quite much and i dont know exactly what cam is running now. And it uses E85 as fuel. Race fuel is banned if our drifting series here so no 105 oct and that cannot be run in pump gas evev in stock form.
.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on November 28, 2016, 08:15:04 AM
Supercharger will give you some low end grunt.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on November 28, 2016, 01:33:15 PM
If it's not a centrifugal type, then yeah.

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 30, 2016, 09:12:41 AM
having to get drop spindles, at 4" ride height front shocks were bottomed out. i want to be able to get 2" at race tracks and car shows

(https://s16.postimg.org/c1wrahjw5/20161129_232908_resized.png)
(https://s11.postimg.org/oarw22ksz/20161129_144840_resized.png)
(https://s11.postimg.org/z935k99eb/20161129_135727_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Homerr on November 30, 2016, 10:10:47 AM
I like watching your craftsmanship and process.  But I keep wondering if this is a train wreck a few seconds before impact.   :scratchchin:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 30, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
a train wreck? what do you mean...
(https://s22.postimg.org/d4b4b3nqp/20161130_050412.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on November 30, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
Quote from: Homerr on November 30, 2016, 10:10:47 AM
I like watching your craftsmanship and process.  But I keep wondering if this is a train wreck a few seconds before impact.   :scratchchin:

???????


Edit...cbr beat me to it!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Homerr on November 30, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 30, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
a train wreck? what do you mean...

Well, I'll reserve judgement until you're done.  But there is a long road of builders that thought they were improving on the 2nd gen design.

If you start slapping on '70 R/T door scallops in reverse on the quarters for brake cooling intakes or put a fart can on the back this build could go downhill fast.   :icon_smile_wink:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on November 30, 2016, 11:35:38 AM
I'm not worried.  :lol:

From a styling perspective he hasn't touched any of the major body panels, just added a couple spoilers and side exhaust.

Stance is unorthodox, but makes sense since it's a track car.

Looking forward to seeing it progress!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 30, 2016, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: Homerr on November 30, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 30, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
a train wreck? what do you mean...

Well, I'll reserve judgement until you're done.  But there is a long road of builders that thought they were improving on the 2nd gen design.

If you start slapping on '70 R/T door scallops in reverse on the quarters for brake cooling intakes or put a fart can on the back this build could go downhill fast.   :icon_smile_wink:

oh gotcha, yea im not adding door scoops. it was just a thought, but i see ur perspective. only thing else im adding to the body and its just a thought is a little deflector in front of the rear tire for exhaust
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 68RT440 on November 30, 2016, 12:33:49 PM
That looks sick!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on November 30, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
The ultimate sleeper.
Looks great!!!!!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on November 30, 2016, 12:59:00 PM
The stance on this thing is amazing. I can even dig the small flares on the rear wheel well.

I'm not worried about anything here.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on November 30, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: timmycharger on November 30, 2016, 04:14:15 PM
I see nothing but great fabrication going on here, looks badass!

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: WHITE AND RED 69 on November 30, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Looking good! Roll that sucker out and get some more pictures showing the stance.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on November 30, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
Wow! Very cool!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on November 30, 2016, 07:39:13 PM
Keep up the good work Chris.  :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Gotta get over there and get caught up.  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 01, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
cant have un-necessary holes in the body so welding up side markers lol.
(https://s16.postimg.org/60sjj2sad/20161201_003212_resized.png)

was able to get some used stripe delete emblems for $5 a piece
(https://s16.postimg.org/ehs1tzwz9/20161201_003118_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on December 01, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
Yeah...nice. Although you might have wanted to continue that patch slightly further forward and down...LOL!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 01, 2016, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: alfaitalia on December 01, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
Yeah...nice. Although you might have wanted to continue that patch slightly further forward and down...LOL!

naw...thats character, a perfect rectangle hole was just ugly lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 01, 2016, 12:12:33 PM
CB, are you going to spray the whole car with any kind of coloring?

Bob
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 01, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
naw...the rattier the better
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 01, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 01, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
naw...the rattier the better
Done that many times in the early 70's.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 1st_charger on December 01, 2016, 06:33:35 PM
Really love that front spoiler with that stance looks really mean.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: ACUDANUT on December 02, 2016, 02:43:03 PM
IMO worthless opinion, fix the Body and add some paint for crying out loud.  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on December 02, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 01, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
naw...the rattier the better
I prefer the word "raw" lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mike DC on December 03, 2016, 03:09:51 AM
            
Another vote to leave it raw.  That makes it far more memorable & interesting.  


There are thousands of '68 Chargers are out there.  But everyone remembers Freiburger's General Mayhem.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 03, 2016, 05:50:28 AM
should i let the raw metal panels get rusty patina looking or try and match the faded paint so it looks like original panels
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on December 03, 2016, 08:04:56 AM
Just leave it to decay naturally IMO......mind you if you did that here it would be rusted to dust by next Thursday!...
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 68RT440 on December 03, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
Let the patches rust. If you try to match the old paint it will look too much like you cared about it. I like the look that it has with the patches raw. It looks more purpose built that way IMO
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on December 03, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
I agree leave them bare metal, after they surface rust you can always clear them
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 04, 2016, 03:36:23 PM
after getting the car on the ground the horrible mopar geometry i just couldnt ignore anymore, so i made new lowers this morning and swapped out spindles for a set of wilwood forged pinto ones. now the geometry is great and i can drop this sucker to the ground without binding up.

old setup
(https://s12.postimg.org/gwtfqn4u5/20161204_122349_resized.jpg)

new setup
(https://s12.postimg.org/up7um9vlp/20161204_121436_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 04, 2016, 03:44:10 PM
(https://s14.postimg.org/s0ob9mitt/20161204_123652_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on December 04, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
Very nice....that's real engineering porn!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on December 07, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
Love it
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 10, 2016, 10:21:21 AM
way more betters...pinto spindles and flipped lower balljoint fixed all mopar geometry and now i have more travel and better handling geometry. plus now i can drop the car to 1/2" off the ground if i wanted. way more betters...

here in this pic it is at 2" from bottom of frame rail in front and 2.5" in rear. im gonna have to flare the front fenders to get my steering i need. the pinto stuff did widen the front tread width about 1.5"
(https://s27.postimg.org/755igi8k3/20161210_011743_resized.png)
(https://s27.postimg.org/tid93b9hv/20161210_011913_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on December 10, 2016, 11:30:48 AM
I'm impressed. On too many pro touring Mopars, the aftermarket suspensions widen the track width, requiring front wheels with FWD type offsets. Your setup keeps the factory width while lowering the car, allowing front wheels with a nice deep dish. Looks great!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 13, 2016, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on December 10, 2016, 11:30:48 AM
I'm impressed. On too many pro touring Mopars, the aftermarket suspensions widen the track width, requiring front wheels with FWD type offsets. Your setup keeps the factory width while lowering the car, allowing front wheels with a nice deep dish. Looks great!

i switched to pinto setup, so it did widen out 1.5" now. had to flare the fenders out to get full steering at 2" frame height and its still not enough, gonna have to make the flare a little bigger. my wilwood 6 piston setup arrived today
(https://s29.postimg.org/vz029x5lj/20161213_101142_resized.jpg)
(https://s28.postimg.org/7oywfi6p9/20161210_012123_resized.png)

gf wants a wedding ring...i had enough for either that or wilwood 6 piston brake setup, guess who has a wilwood 6 piston brake setup....dis guy  :icon_smile_big:
(https://s23.postimg.org/hpy6klwsr/20161212_183504.jpg)

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 13, 2016, 06:20:16 PM
Careful!!! She might get upset and key your car.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: djcarguy on December 13, 2016, 06:40:42 PM
    GREAT lighting or effect with the blueish roll cage. car is sure looking great and mean as a yellow car can bee.

Are you going to try to copy rh c stripe on lf side??  what bout porta power an bow the fenders out for clearance?


   Think i have a used wedding Ring wood trade for rear spring relocate on my Dart-tona,haha.DJ  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 16, 2016, 03:49:43 AM
(https://s29.postimg.org/c9e6xu5jr/20161216_003507_resized.png)
(https://s29.postimg.org/frq6u86fr/20161215_211900_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 16, 2016, 06:06:21 AM
Where did you learn your skills?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on December 16, 2016, 07:02:56 AM
This build is quickly becoming my favorite car on this site. Awesome. :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 16, 2016, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 16, 2016, 06:06:21 AM
Where did you learn your skills?
im a low budget circle track racer, so i cant pay others to do my stuff. had to learn how to do it myself. as for the flares, im friends with an old roadracer, thats how he did his flares back in the 60's was with a hammer and dolly.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 16, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
Thank you for the reply.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on December 16, 2016, 12:26:13 PM
Not that I have cbrests skills or tool!....but I learnt what I do for a similar reason....too broke as a kid to pay anyone else to work on my bikes or car!! I lived out in the sticks with no public transport (well we had one bus a week...on a Thursday!...I'm not joking!) so if I wanted to see mates, or more importantly girls or get to town or the pub, I had to maintain, fix, modify it myself!! Amazing how quick you can pick stuff up if you just tear into it! Then for a while I was a tech at a shop and then a VW dealer...so that helped ! These are cars not rocket ships so easy to figure stuff out..and the older the car the easier it is.....I think twice about touching anything electrical on my old Merc...all that canbus stuff is a bit beyond me....I leant my stuff well before that!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: mopar4don on December 20, 2016, 02:00:25 PM
Congrats on making it to the "BIGS"

http://lateral-g.net/project-spotlight-chris-birdsongs-harder-charger/
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 25, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
ok i guess i could spare a little money from my charger and finally ask her...lol
(https://s23.postimg.org/kf4xa982j/20161222_103711_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 68RT440 on December 25, 2016, 12:57:26 PM
Congrats! Plus now she won't hate the car for sucking up the ring money!  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 25, 2016, 01:10:11 PM
lol yeah true
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on December 25, 2016, 04:25:11 PM
 Congrats! looks like you both had a very merry Christmas!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Bob on December 26, 2016, 11:21:45 AM
Congratulations  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 26, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
i need seats so i can sit in it and make vroom vroom sounds already
(https://s27.postimg.org/y9uti53cz/20161224_144828_resized.png)
(https://s27.postimg.org/copquj6mb/20161224_151429_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 26, 2016, 11:59:08 AM
closing up all holes in valance except turn lights, going to use those as brake ducts. going to close up more of the opening in the center too
(https://s24.postimg.org/yr15j1xmd/20161226_004548_resized.jpg)
(https://s24.postimg.org/xq0wtxgmt/20161226_004633_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on December 27, 2016, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 25, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
ok i guess i could spare a little money from my charger and finally ask her...lol
(https://s23.postimg.org/kf4xa982j/20161222_103711_resized.jpg)

CONGRATS CHRIS!!!  :2thumbs: :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on December 27, 2016, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: VegasCharger on December 27, 2016, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 25, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
ok i guess i could spare a little money from my charger and finally ask her...lol
(https://s23.postimg.org/kf4xa982j/20161222_103711_resized.jpg)

CONGRATS CHRIS!!!  :2thumbs: :cheers:

Congrats!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 31, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
this is gonna suck to make work and geometry to be right. its an omni rack that im trying to make work. the stock steering box and drag link is way off with the pinto spindles so im gonna have to make this work. i should of just made a k frame with front steer. it will be on the next one!!!
(https://s27.postimg.org/qoppuud8j/20161231_112851_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 01, 2017, 08:42:55 PM
its a start...now the other side
(https://s30.postimg.org/vv7mfo4m9/20170101_170457_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: TexasStroker on January 02, 2017, 04:26:30 AM
Hadn't been on the site in awhile...great progress and congrats on getting the brakes and the girl!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 08, 2017, 06:42:25 AM
facebook page for daisy build with videos as i go
https://www.facebook.com/Ratmusclecarz
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 10, 2017, 04:31:17 AM
finished rack conversion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM3YfekC61M
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: marshallfry01 on January 10, 2017, 03:54:42 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 16, 2017, 03:22:56 AM
rack in, just waiting on steering shaft parts
(https://s30.postimg.org/t7iygapfl/20170112_232015_resized.jpg)
dual pass 31" radiator im making fit. no cooling issues with this sucker
(https://s30.postimg.org/qepqw9p35/20170112_232050_resized.jpg)
adjustable position depth and angle woodward steering column
(https://s30.postimg.org/7awffxc8x/20170112_232214_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 21, 2017, 01:04:31 PM
working on my valance, filled in all the big holes and making a lower grill with sides to hide the new turn signals behind the mesh grill. using the original turn signal holes as brake ducts
(https://s28.postimg.org/md9hbi8st/20170121_011102_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on January 21, 2017, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 10, 2016, 10:21:21 AM
way more betters...pinto spindles and flipped lower balljoint fixed all mopar geometry and now i have more travel and better handling geometry. plus now i can drop the car to 1/2" off the ground if i wanted. way more betters...


Can you show a pic of the spindles/ball joints with them flipped?  Which ball joints are you using? Never seen that done before and curious how you got it to work.

Thanks!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: INTMD8 on January 22, 2017, 11:46:40 AM
Very cool project!  :cheers:

Not sure if you have someone to tune it but I can put together a good calibration for you start with if you need it.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 22, 2017, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: funknut on January 21, 2017, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 10, 2016, 10:21:21 AM
way more betters...pinto spindles and flipped lower balljoint fixed all mopar geometry and now i have more travel and better handling geometry. plus now i can drop the car to 1/2" off the ground if i wanted. way more betters...


Can you show a pic of the spindles/ball joints with them flipped?  Which ball joints are you using? Never seen that done before and curious how you got it to work.

Thanks!

its just a mustang 2 style suspension.
(https://s29.postimg.org/78fr7wa7r/20161214_101804_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 22, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
gettin there, only another 8hrs worth of work left with trim panels and screen lol. geeze probably 18hrs in just a valance. video below
(https://s23.postimg.org/5l8q4bk23/20170122_015952_resized.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEETqtEXZn4&t=17s
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 22, 2017, 01:55:35 PM
time to make some aluminum bumper brackets  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on January 22, 2017, 02:46:31 PM
Nice. Wonder what the final curb weight will be.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 22, 2017, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on January 22, 2017, 02:46:31 PM
Nice. Wonder what the final curb weight will be.

shooting for 3,000lbs
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on January 22, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2017, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on January 22, 2017, 02:46:31 PM
Nice. Wonder what the final curb weight will be.

shooting for 3,000lbs

That would be awesome, Hope you make it!  :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Reezee on January 22, 2017, 04:21:46 PM
You sir, are a master fabricator. Hats off to you design and fabricating skills.

Also congrats on the engagement!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 25, 2017, 06:01:19 AM
made the trim panels for my valance and started making aluminum bumper brackets. they are 1/6th of the weight
(https://s30.postimg.org/jnviyhvg1/20170124_230003_resized.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.org/g5jj23uk1/20170124_230049_resized.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.org/prd3ielpt/20170125_022715_resized.jpg)
(https://s30.postimg.org/odlgn3mgh/20170125_024052_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on January 25, 2017, 08:07:39 AM
Valance looks very cool! and the aluminum bumper mounts as well! Great job!
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on January 25, 2017, 08:59:29 AM
Looks good  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: crj1968 on January 25, 2017, 11:49:15 AM
Nice work man- I dig this car.   :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on January 25, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 28, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
all 4 together weigh the same as 7 ultimate cheeseburgers from jack in the box lol
(https://s23.postimg.org/mtg6cd0tn/20170128_000354_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on January 28, 2017, 01:33:31 PM
 :2thumbs:   :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on January 28, 2017, 01:37:27 PM
Those will look great on my hooptie! ;D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on January 28, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Lennard on January 28, 2017, 01:37:27 PM
Those will look great on my hooptie! ;D

lol but u need the heavy bumpers to even out the extra weight of dual gas caps
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Moparsaver on January 28, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
Very, very nice work on your car and Lennards car.      :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on January 28, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 28, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Lennard on January 28, 2017, 01:37:27 PM
Those will look great on my hooptie! ;D

lol but u need the heavy bumpers to even out the extra weight of dual gas caps
Don't be a hater! You know you love it!   :nana:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 02, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
Tonight's agenda https://youtu.be/iP9v0ncUgHw
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on February 02, 2017, 06:39:02 AM
Full agenda. Do you ever sleep?   ;)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on February 02, 2017, 06:53:34 AM
Cool video.  :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

@ 2:44 in your YT video, "Walk" by Pantera, that will keep you awake.  :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on February 02, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
 :coolgleamA:   good stuff  , nice work ....  :yesnod: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 03, 2017, 05:48:01 AM
Video below.     (https://s24.postimg.org/i6hu4yogl/20170203_021224.jpg)
https://youtu.be/6M5aGgH9zIc
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: mopar4don on February 03, 2017, 07:15:35 AM
That medallion does make a difference! An amber LED will be awesome.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on February 03, 2017, 08:09:26 AM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Hey Chris do you need a Dodge medallion for the other duct?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: INTMD8 on February 03, 2017, 09:57:25 AM
Nice work on the bumper brackets!!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: WHITE AND RED 69 on February 03, 2017, 06:48:16 PM
Nice work on the brake ducts. Good idea adding in the medallion, looks much better.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 06, 2017, 03:28:15 PM
gonna need to carry a baseball glove to catch all them panties being throw... :coolgleamA:
(https://s30.postimg.org/ekk75r4tt/20170206_122303_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on February 06, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
That black fiberglass bumper looks better on my black car. :nana:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 06, 2017, 04:10:35 PM
Ur right, I'm gonna get mine painted to look all rusted chrome
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on February 06, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
Very cool!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Ryan.C on February 06, 2017, 07:30:56 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 06, 2017, 03:28:15 PM
gonna need to carry a baseball glove to catch all them panties being throw... :coolgleamA:
(https://s30.postimg.org/ekk75r4tt/20170206_122303_resized.png)

:smilielol:  I am going to use that in the future too funny   :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on February 06, 2017, 07:47:47 PM
The front is starting to look familiar to me....   :2thumbs:

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Vegas_Nick on February 06, 2017, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: RallyeMike on February 06, 2017, 07:47:47 PM
The front is starting to look familiar to me....   :2thumbs:



Mike,
Do you have pics of the inside of your car?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RallyeMike on February 07, 2017, 04:49:11 AM
Nick: I don't wan't to derail this thread... I can send you something specific, but warning: its not much to look at. Cheap plastic seat and a bunch of tubes. Email or PM me.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Vegas_Nick on February 07, 2017, 09:01:47 PM
email sent.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 09, 2017, 03:02:50 PM
oh you know...spending twice as much money to go slower with a 6.1 hemi. could be making 600hp and 100lbs lighter for almost half the cost if i kept it LS. see why people run LS in everything!!!  :RantExplode: 
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: bristol on February 09, 2017, 03:23:59 PM
Awesome craftsmanship!  I'd say go ls only time you would be showing off the engine is at a show and that's no fun. The hood is down on the track.

I get the same opinions when I talk about putting a subie in my vw. Anything that gives you more time in the seat over working in the garage is a no brainer.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 09, 2017, 04:16:47 PM
i just ordered big cam from howards, dome pistons with valve reliefs for big cam, big springs, arp rod bolts, sent the heads to get ported, new valve seats and manley valves and just gonna spin the crap out of it see what it will hold...hoping for 600hp
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on February 09, 2017, 04:27:34 PM
I was completely on board with the LS engine.

Great power train for a track car. I have a GMC pickup with the Aluminum block L33 engine. I purposely picked this truck over the others because of that particular engine. If it ever gets totalled, I'm putting that engine in something cool and under 2500lbs.

But atleast the purists can't complain now with Daisy's NASCAR engine.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 09, 2017, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: JR on February 09, 2017, 04:27:34 PM
I was completely on board with the LS engine.

Great power train for a track car. I have a GMC pickup with the Aluminum block L33 engine. I purposely picked this truck over the others because of that particular engine. If it ever gets totalled, I'm putting that engine in something cool and under 2500lbs.

But atleast the purists can't complain now with Daisy's NASCAR engine.

im not dropping the nascar engine in daisy, thats a later car. i chose the 6.1 hemi for daisy instead. more driveable
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on February 09, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
Oh OK, I must have missed that.

I can't wait to see this car on a track.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 09, 2017, 05:33:02 PM
hell i cant wait to see the dash gauges move lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on February 09, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
Is this car intended to keep or sell? I know you have several in line and I think you aren't keeping them. If you are keeping this car run whatever you want. If you will sell it, stay Mopar. IMO.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 13, 2017, 06:31:03 AM
more progress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOuvFwky5g&t=204s
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on February 13, 2017, 10:13:03 AM
Love the video updates, keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on February 13, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
I think I found CBs next project.  :smilielol:
https://youtu.be/kwPeDsqQ9gY
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: timmycharger on February 13, 2017, 03:37:39 PM
Looking Bad Ass!  :cheers: :cheers:


Curious, have the folks from "Count's Kustoms" come by your shop yet?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 13, 2017, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on February 13, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
I think I found CBs next project.  :smilielol:
https://youtu.be/kwPeDsqQ9gY

thats a big fat no lol...not my thing. i know that car and have sat in it. the driver cant see shit. you have to stick ur head out the drivers window to see. i wil give steve credit on nice fab work, atleast he didnt cut up a charger. he found the body already with those flares and t tops done already on a blazer chassis.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on February 13, 2017, 04:16:49 PM
....lol.....and that blower belt needs a lot more tension!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Vegas_Nick on February 13, 2017, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 13, 2017, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on February 13, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
I think I found CBs next project.  :smilielol:
https://youtu.be/kwPeDsqQ9gY

thats a big fat no lol...not my thing. i know that car and have sat in it. the driver cant see shit. you have to stick ur head out the drivers window to see. i wil give steve credit on nice fab work, atleast he didnt cut up a charger. he found the body already with those flares and t tops done already on a blazer chassis.

Every time I see that guy, all I can think is...."why hasn't someone hit him in the head with a shovel yet"?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on February 13, 2017, 06:05:10 PM
Quote from: Vegas_Nick on February 13, 2017, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 13, 2017, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: RCCDrew on February 13, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
I think I found CBs next project.  :smilielol:
https://youtu.be/kwPeDsqQ9gY

thats a big fat no lol...not my thing. i know that car and have sat in it. the driver cant see shit. you have to stick ur head out the drivers window to see. i wil give steve credit on nice fab work, atleast he didnt cut up a charger. he found the body already with those flares and t tops done already on a blazer chassis.

Every time I see that guy, all I can think is...."why hasn't someone hit him in the head with a shovel yet"?
:lol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on February 13, 2017, 09:15:35 PM
"daisy"= :2thumbs: that other thing = Carbage  :eek2:
Opinions only, like what you like!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 16, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
my shirts and engine are here...gettin it blown apart and ready for the build up soon. also in the pic you can see a racing seat with shoulders and head braces, im thinking ill use that in daisy, it came out of my race car anyway. just get it upholstered to match the car
(https://s18.postimg.org/ojkbjlck9/IMG_09561.jpg)
(https://s18.postimg.org/6fhayyevt/20170215_173034_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 20, 2017, 11:23:25 AM
steering wheel showed
(https://s28.postimg.org/afires3gt/20170219_194845_resized.jpg)
screwing around with a junk hood, i kinda like it. may have to do it for real on a good hood
(https://s28.postimg.org/40jqi3wr1/20170219_173632_resized.jpg)
when you spend $470 on a roadrace pan and still gotta cut it up to make fit
(https://s28.postimg.org/5i56to1hp/20170219_194913_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Vegas_Nick on February 21, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
I am so envious of the flat dash in that year. The 74 isn't so much fun!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on February 21, 2017, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: Vegas_Nick on February 21, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
I am so envious of the flat dash in that year. The 74 isn't so much fun!
He has a second gen. Charger for sale that is around the corner from you.  ;)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Ryan.C on February 21, 2017, 09:28:56 PM
Dude, how do I get one of those shirts!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 21, 2017, 09:44:49 PM
they cost me $10 a piece, i was gonna try and sell them for $20 shipped. they are nice material. not cheapo stuff
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: TheBipolarRoller on February 22, 2017, 12:40:28 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 10, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: keepat on July 10, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
The side exhaust will look awesome! Most mopar with a 4 link just stop the exhaust forward of the rear as there's no room for the exhaust pipe. The side exhaust will be a lot of work but worth it for the cool factor!
Pat

Yeah it would be a lot more simple to just dump the exhaust, but how many quarter panel exhaust exit chargers are out there...lol. I want to also make A small 2" rear spoiler and a chin spoiler to also add more racer look to it. I'm sooo...gonna wear a mullet and fake mustache driving this car around town blarring the radio to scorpions lol can't wait

I saw the Scorpions at Wings Stadium in Kalamazoo, Michigan in 1984. Rudolph Schenker was singing atop a 20 foot wall of speakers and he looked like he was going to drunk-fall off of them... luckily he did not. My buddy Lurch and I both went home with these hot chics and had to come get his Oldsmobile Delta 88 with a 455 rocket motor the next day. That was surely one of the best concerts I have ever been to.Bon Jovi opened for them.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 22, 2017, 01:35:14 AM
i wish i was born in that era...not happy with the ignorance and pop culture of mine
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on February 22, 2017, 02:06:05 AM
Explain... :shruggy:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on February 22, 2017, 02:47:56 AM
It was the same back then.....only the fashions change! It's just that lots of folk my age have rose tinted glasses.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 22, 2017, 04:03:25 AM
i guess i only hear and see the cool stuff i want to from the past, im forced to see all the retardation of liberals, pop stars and horrible rock bands of now a days. hell you dont even have to sing or write anymore. autotune and a pretty face does all the work for you
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on February 22, 2017, 04:15:20 AM
Holy shit. I agree with this guy ^^^^.
There is hope for us all.
People bash on Millenials but there are a few bright spots to be optimistic about. My buddy's kid is 31 and has a 64 Valiant that I painted...He loves classic cars.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on February 22, 2017, 04:19:16 AM
Wooooo !
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 22, 2017, 04:22:24 AM
worked on the wheel wells tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jb6GL5afuI
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on February 22, 2017, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on February 22, 2017, 04:19:16 AM
Wooooo !

There fixed it for you KD.  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on February 22, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 22, 2017, 04:22:24 AM
worked on the wheel wells tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jb6GL5afuI
Great wheel well video. I learn something every time I watch one.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on February 22, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
Thanks for fixing the picture. It looked right on the computer....I don't know why it came out that way.
Back on topic.....C/Bs project!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 70B5Cuda on February 22, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 22, 2017, 04:03:25 AM
i guess i only hear and see the cool stuff i want to from the past, im forced to see all the retardation of liberals, pop stars and horrible rock bands of now a days. hell you dont even have to sing or write anymore. autotune and a pretty face does all the work for you

I do NOT wish I was born any earlier; I like the present for a lot of reasons. But I'm right with you on the quote above. I'm 34; all my friends are 10+ years older then me, I have a lot of responsibility (Baby #5 arrives in March), I'm tired of all the liberal crap, etc. I guess I'm an early millennials, but I prefer to be called a Gen X.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on February 22, 2017, 10:35:07 PM
Oh yes, that great 80s pop music.

(http://www.homorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/worst-80s-songs.jpg)


(http://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cDovL2NvbnRlbnQuY2xlYXJjaGFubmVsLmNvbS9jYy1jb21tb24vbWxpYi8xMTc1LzEwLzExNzVfMTMxODM0MzUzMjMuanBn?ops=maxcontain(750,473),quality(80))

You guys are right, the 80s music and pop culture was totally awesome and everything today is just stupid. You guys aren't looking at it with Rose tinted glasses at all. :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: TheBipolarRoller on February 24, 2017, 01:38:11 AM
Quote from: JR on February 22, 2017, 10:35:07 PM
Oh yes, that great 80s pop music.

(http://www.homorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/worst-80s-songs.jpg)


(http://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cDovL2NvbnRlbnQuY2xlYXJjaGFubmVsLmNvbS9jYy1jb21tb24vbWxpYi8xMTc1LzEwLzExNzVfMTMxODM0MzUzMjMuanBn?ops=maxcontain(750,473),quality(80))

You guys are right, the 80s music and pop culture was totally awesome and everything today is just stupid. You guys aren't looking at it with Rose tinted glasses at all. :icon_smile_big:


The problem with [some of] the music of any era was--- It always seemed better with alcohol and cannabis. Listen to the same thing 30 years later, and straight... and it does not sound near as good.

I wonder what a built 354 Hemi would do in CB's rat rod. I have always had a thing for the 354 Hemi but never owned one. Always wondered why we haven't seen more of them in 32 Fords instead of Flathead V-8s...? I see that the flathead v-8 weighs a couple hundred pounds less. Can't believe the 354 Hemi weighs 720 lbs. Is that the reason... weight?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on February 24, 2017, 02:21:27 AM
......AND that it was friggin wide as a Kardashian skank.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 24, 2017, 03:56:43 AM
boat anchor....engine, man ive been sick for a week, ive only got done half of what i needed to.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 26, 2017, 08:19:01 AM
yay...i have a spot to park my ass now  :icon_smile_big:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OWUbe5GZHI&t=30s
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on February 27, 2017, 04:42:02 AM
(https://s3.postimg.org/51nwfvcwj/20170227_001811_resized.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.org/jywdgvq4z/20170227_001918_resized.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.org/ua8q9jhub/20170227_002012_resized.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.org/gulpk39cj/20170227_002129_resized.jpg)
(https://s3.postimg.org/kfhl3bdw3/20170227_002830_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on February 27, 2017, 04:48:15 AM
Clean work!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 02, 2017, 11:18:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnEn71jsQkE&t=188s
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 04, 2017, 12:23:33 PM
(https://s17.postimg.org/7phyxcm4v/20170304_011033_resized.png)
(https://s17.postimg.org/axmgae8en/20170304_011141_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: darbgnik on March 04, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 04, 2017, 12:23:33 PM
(https://s17.postimg.org/7phyxcm4v/20170304_011033_resized.png)
(https://s17.postimg.org/axmgae8en/20170304_011141_resized.png)

:2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on March 05, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
Man this thing keeps getting cooler and cooler
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 13, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
Well...daisy has to get put on the back burner, not gonna make Mopar show in Vegas or this year probably...sucks but I've gotta work on my dad's cars. He just got hit with cancer and hard. Wants to drive his camaro and elco before he dies. I'm sure I can still put some hrs in on it here and there. I really want my car done too but I still have time on my side. Sucks to see a tough guy get put to his knees in a matters of weeks
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on March 13, 2017, 10:38:18 PM
!!!Sorry to hear that!!!
Hoping for the best for both of you.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on March 13, 2017, 11:39:55 PM
Sorry for the bad news, Chris.
That is a bad thing to deal with. I've lost most of my family to various Cancers.....to the point where my lack of smoking-drinking-drugs are proving their worth.
I appreciate the effort you are making, changing it up to spend time with your Dad. It hurts like hell to live with the regret that you did not spend more time with a sick loved one before they go. Guilt is one thing I have a very hard time dealing with. Do what you can, while you can. With that, you'll know from now on that you made the best use of the time that you could.   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on March 14, 2017, 12:32:32 AM
Man that sucks Chris. Let me know if there's anything I can do.

It's good that you're turning your focus towards your dad's pride and joy.  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: qwick68 on March 14, 2017, 09:22:23 AM
Sorry to hear.....
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on March 14, 2017, 09:47:28 AM
 :rotz:  :'( Feel free to post the camaro and elco pics, i'd like to see them...
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JB400 on March 14, 2017, 08:11:39 PM
Feel for you buddy. :pity:  You're doing the right thing though.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on March 14, 2017, 08:27:50 PM
Family is more important. Take care of your Dad. Sorry to hear about this.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 20, 2017, 03:56:32 AM
i already primed the interior metal parts before i left so i wanted to finish them. spent awhile at the mixing station coming up with a flashier version of t3 copper which is what daisy had for interior metal color. i wanted the same but with just a lil more kick and it came out nice. sprayed with light satin clear. looking forward to seeing it in the morning. sun was already down and was cloudy when i finished spraying. wanna see how it looks in sunlight. will look nice with my tan interior
(https://s13.postimg.org/wyafgtuef/20170319_183240_resized.jpg)
(https://s13.postimg.org/b0ik0s4rr/20170319_183252_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on March 20, 2017, 04:00:51 AM
Hey... where is the VIN tag ??    :nana:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 20, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
daisy is a right hand drive, the vin tag is on the other side, those are just accessory holes lol. i sold a roadrunner about 9 months ago and knocked $500 off the cost of the car because the guy had a spray chrome setup at his shop. i wanted all the chrome redone in daisy including the dash bezels. well 9 months later he still hasnt done them and has no plans to do them he said. so now i have to go get my shit and tell him he owes me $500 which i know im not gonna get back.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on March 20, 2017, 05:19:13 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 13, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
Well...daisy has to get put on the back burner, not gonna make Mopar show in Vegas or this year probably...sucks but I've gotta work on my dad's cars. He just got hit with cancer and hard. Wants to drive his camaro and elco before he dies. I'm sure I can still put some hrs in on it here and there. I really want my car done too but I still have time on my side. Sucks to see a tough guy get put to his knees in a matters of weeks

awww no sorry to hear this CBR .......
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 20, 2017, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 20, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
daisy is a right hand drive, the vin tag is on the other side, those are just accessory holes lol. i sold a roadrunner about 9 months ago and knocked $500 off the cost of the car because the guy had a spray chrome setup at his shop. i wanted all the chrome redone in daisy including the dash bezels. well 9 months later he still hasnt done them and has no plans to do them he said. so now i have to go get my shit and tell him he owes me $500 which i know im not gonna get back.
I'll go with you, maybe we can change his mind.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Vegas_Nick on March 20, 2017, 08:16:47 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 13, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
Well...daisy has to get put on the back burner, not gonna make Mopar show in Vegas or this year probably...sucks but I've gotta work on my dad's cars. He just got hit with cancer and hard. Wants to drive his camaro and elco before he dies. I'm sure I can still put some hrs in on it here and there. I really want my car done too but I still have time on my side. Sucks to see a tough guy get put to his knees in a matters of weeks

Best wishes man! Seriously the best medicine is POSITIVITY! Surround him with laughter and love. This coming from a guy who has been in remission since 2013. It changes your outlook on life for sure. I would not be here had it not been for the family closest to me that was there for every chemo, and friends that kept me laughing.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: VegasCharger on March 21, 2017, 07:46:02 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 20, 2017, 03:56:32 AM
i already primed the interior metal parts before i left so i wanted to finish them. spent awhile at the mixing station coming up with a flashier version of t3 copper which is what daisy had for interior metal color. i wanted the same but with just a lil more kick and it came out nice. sprayed with light satin clear. looking forward to seeing it in the morning. sun was already down and was cloudy when i finished spraying. wanna see how it looks in sunlight. will look nice with my tan interior

Good job on that color match.  :2thumbs:

Looks good in the pictures. Bet it looks better in person.

:cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lighthorseman on March 22, 2017, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Lennard on March 20, 2017, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 20, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
daisy is a right hand drive, the vin tag is on the other side, those are just accessory holes lol. i sold a roadrunner about 9 months ago and knocked $500 off the cost of the car because the guy had a spray chrome setup at his shop. i wanted all the chrome redone in daisy including the dash bezels. well 9 months later he still hasnt done them and has no plans to do them he said. so now i have to go get my shit and tell him he owes me $500 which i know im not gonna get back.
I'll go with you, maybe we can change his mind.


...please be sure to post that video.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 23, 2017, 02:37:17 AM
i did get me stuff back, the money and 2 n.o.s. stripe delete emblems. i left not so upset
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on March 23, 2017, 04:45:49 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 23, 2017, 02:37:17 AM
i did get me stuff back, the money and 2 n.o.s. stripe delete emblems. i left not so upset
I knew that you were Irish.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on March 23, 2017, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 23, 2017, 02:37:17 AM
i did get me stuff back, the money and 2 n.o.s. stripe delete emblems. i left not so upset
:2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on March 30, 2017, 11:53:03 AM
so i finally got a bellhousing to mount the jerico behind the 6.1, i was up till 4am getting that thing in the car, i was not going to bed untill i could sit in the seat and grab the shifter. im gonna have to cut the whole tunnel out of the car because of the 2.5" ride height and i wanted the engine and trans level otherwise with the conversion motor mounts it sits in the car at a down hill 3.5 degree slope. had to take one of the new pistol grips and cut it down to the height i liked. i also striped the interior parts so i could start cericoating the roll bars. then i could get the stock interior back in it. it will have a headliner, carpet, stock door panels, stock dash, console and kick panels
(https://s27.postimg.org/cu1wrclyb/20170327_143602_resized.jpg)
(https://s27.postimg.org/52l6sshsz/20170328_115004_resized.jpg)
(https://s27.postimg.org/qdiqx1zxf/20170328_130435_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 10, 2017, 02:49:14 AM
had fun at the woodley park mopar show on saturday, i left that afternoon to come home and try to knock out a trans tunnel. its all mocked up being screw'd together. just gotta weld it together now

(https://s12.postimg.org/p40x16xxp/20170409_231825_resized.jpg)
(https://s12.postimg.org/my6m6ouh9/20170409_231741_resized.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on April 10, 2017, 04:45:57 AM
I sure wish I had sheet metal skills like that. Nice work. Did you take classes to learn or work with a seasoned metal fabricator?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 67Charger440 on April 11, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Hey, it was good meeting you Saturday.  Here's a better pic of the Challenger I was showing you on my phone...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/67Charger/68%20Charger%20slant%206/IMG_0137_zpsilxhc6xb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/67Charger/media/68%20Charger%20slant%206/IMG_0137_zpsilxhc6xb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on April 12, 2017, 12:10:00 AM
Wow, you are really tall. Judging by the angle of that shot, you must be 9'11" at least.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lighthorseman on April 15, 2017, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on April 12, 2017, 12:10:00 AM
Wow, you are really tall. Judging by the angle of that sot, you must be 9'11" at least.

...or only 8'7" if wearing those cool "Kiss" boots.   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on April 16, 2017, 01:40:31 AM
Ha ha...Those were cool, huh ?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on April 23, 2017, 08:32:42 AM
first time out of the garage in a year
(https://s4.postimg.org/kx82uf4xp/20170422_183129_resized.png)
(https://s4.postimg.org/mav4bzet9/20170422_183053_resized.png)
(https://s4.postimg.org/drbqe86gt/20170422_124326_resized.png)
(https://s4.postimg.org/8wmmtoxj1/20170422_183456_resized.png)
(https://s30.postimg.org/krtcbazsx/20170419_013818_resized.png)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on April 23, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
looks cool! Congrats, is it running?
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: family_dodge on April 23, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
Incredible thread, Chris. Looking forward to hearing more about Daisy. Congrats on the marriage and sorry about your pops going through health trouble.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: djcarguy on May 26, 2017, 08:30:23 PM
 :icon_smile_question: :icon_smile_question: :shruggy: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 15, 2017, 05:29:51 PM
so i just ordered this bad mo-fo today, capable of 1300hp. ordered my entire fuel system and the megasquirt engine management system. all together not a bad way to spend almost $14,000. oh...when this supercharger shows up the fiance' is on the couch that night lol. backed off on the turbo build as i want it loud and choppy. turbo cars dont really have that, also having to upgrade my exhaust system to 3.5" and building it out of aluminum, even making my own mufflers in aluminum. i beeze happy today  :drool5:
(https://s11.postimg.org/xycwxyz43/mopp-1301-12-dodge-challenger-hellacious-hemi-ke.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: richf on August 15, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
 :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 15, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
now i gott spent 2k on a dang clutch, geeze horsepower costs money lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on August 15, 2017, 06:17:14 PM
Welcome back, Chris. I hope that you are doing well.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on August 15, 2017, 06:25:14 PM
thanks kerndog, my dad passed away so i have been busy for awhile.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Stevearino on August 15, 2017, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on August 15, 2017, 06:25:14 PM
thanks kerndog, my dad passed away so i have been busy for awhile.

Sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on August 15, 2017, 08:53:14 PM
Sorry about your Dad.   Prayers for you and your family.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on August 15, 2017, 09:51:46 PM
Sorry to learn of this. I had a feeling though since before you took a break, I recall you mentioning something about it. Not trying to hijack the thread! I just know what you are dealing with. For me, keeping busy on a goal helped me get through it all.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on August 15, 2017, 09:58:54 PM
 That motor is awesome!!

Sorry to hear of your father's passing

Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on August 15, 2017, 09:59:46 PM
Sorry to hear about your father passing.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cdr on August 15, 2017, 10:06:04 PM
Very sorry about your Dad.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: mopar4don on August 16, 2017, 06:22:36 AM
Sorry for you loss. Prayers for you and your family.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Daytona R/T SE on August 24, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Good looking write up on your car in the latest Mopar Collector's guide. :2thumbs:

Although, at one point I think he called you "Dennis"  :shruggy: :eek2: :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on August 24, 2017, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on August 24, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Good looking write up on your car in the latest Mopar Collector's guide. :2thumbs:

Although, at one point I think he called you "Dennis"  :shruggy: :eek2: :smilielol:
Congratulations "Denny"!  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on August 25, 2017, 01:52:42 AM
 sorry to hear about your Dad ....
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 05, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
 :drool5: boooosted
Step 1...rip out of box, have Lennard help drop on engine, set back and admire
Step 2...realize the novel of instructions and parts that have to go on too
(https://s1.postimg.org/6av1tqgfgf/IMG_0639.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: keepat on October 05, 2017, 02:10:43 PM
Too cool!!!!
Does it clear the hood?
Pat
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 05, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
I think I can get away with just clearencing some of the inner hood structure and then it should clear. I can shut the hood now but there's pressure on the blower pulley
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on October 05, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on October 05, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
:drool5: boooosted
Step 1...rip out of box, have Lennard help drop on engine, set back and admire
Step 2...realize the novel of instructions and parts that have to go on too.
The instruction manual is a 1/2 inch thick.  :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on October 05, 2017, 08:32:38 PM
Glad to see you back on this one!
Are you really going to read the directions?  :D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 05, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Quote from: BDF on October 05, 2017, 08:32:38 PM
Glad to see you back on this one!
Are you really going to read the directions?  :D

Briefly lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on October 05, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
 :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 06, 2017, 03:57:24 AM
Cut out pretty much most of the front inner fender as the recess for the battery tray was hitting the tire at full steering lock and I wanted to make a filler panel out of aluminum for the air cleaner tube. Made a new patch piece next to the shock tower to allow the flat filler panel to be bolted to the inner fender. I'll probably beadrolll the aluminum filler piece but my harbor freight beadroller can't do that thick of aluminum.
(https://s1.postimg.org/504ryk2hn3/IMG_0641.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/5sueugi3kv/IMG_0642.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/2newvior8v/IMG_0643.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: moparstuart on October 06, 2017, 08:59:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_R48LvNqng
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 07, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
I'm gonna make a tighter rubber seal around air tube, just need to get a sheet of rubber. Got my twin pump, supposed to be good for 1500hp and my regulator. Well I have my whole fuel system but it's mostly just fittings and lines. I still need to get fuel filters
(https://s1.postimg.org/9bwz7bk5mn/IMG_0648.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/4r4f3as1z3/IMG_0649.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/88911wtd27/IMG_0650.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/16g76zlgnj/IMG_0653.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/9k514whknj/IMG_0654.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 07, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
Very nice.....better than porn for petrolheads like me!!!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on October 07, 2017, 02:34:37 PM
Is that because you have trouble with your "situation"? :shruggy:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 07, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
Lol...damn...you got me sussed!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on October 07, 2017, 09:27:37 PM
Tee hee.... :smilielol:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on October 08, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: chapel40 on October 08, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Man, that's a cool project. Wish I was comfortable and knew how to do sheet metal work like that!! BAD AZZ!!!! :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: RCCDrew on October 09, 2017, 04:14:41 AM
So, with the air filter location, I guess this car would have to be parked in the rain? I know you live in the desert, so not a consideration?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 09, 2017, 10:33:56 AM
I'm gonna make a splash shield panel behind the air filter
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on October 09, 2017, 06:37:54 PM
My guess is that it is a cooler air source there than under the hood or near the radiator.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 10, 2017, 07:16:55 AM
Yep.....and as  very rough guide on the average motor you get about a 1% increase in HP for every 10 degrees you lower the intake air temp. That why I laugh when I see modern cars that remove the standard airbox that pulls cool air from behind the grille to fit a "cold air" cone filter intake right next to the hot engine or right by the radiator!!!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 12, 2017, 03:48:23 AM
Did a few things today, had to make brackets for the heat exchanger to mount to core support, make a bracket to mount fuel pump and welded bigger fittings to the fuel rails.
(https://s1.postimg.org/5xhaubp8tr/IMG_0680.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/5qqud20llb/IMG_0683.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/1wi2u3jatb/IMG_0684.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/90w29ov4hr/IMG_0677.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Lennard on October 12, 2017, 06:02:57 AM
Nice :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: Kern Dog on October 12, 2017, 11:06:40 PM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?

I'm sure the OP can speak for himself but my impression is that he actually embraces the ratty look of it.
Sometimes it is fun owning a car that allows you the freedom to drive it without worrying about scratching it.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: cbrestorations on October 12, 2017, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?

I'm not gonna paint it, but if I change my mind I was thinking curious yellow
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: JR on October 12, 2017, 11:35:38 PM
The patina is perfect, leave it as is!

I enjoy seeing the juxtaposition of a worn exterior on top of new parts and quality metalwork. It's interesting.

Besides, any car that actually spends time on a track will inevitably be covered with rock chips and scuff marks, anyway.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: garner7555 on October 13, 2017, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?



If you think this build is being done "cheap as possible" then you must live a wonderful life.  This car may not win car shows, but he has spent quite a large amount of money on drive train.  When you count labor (because he could have been making money working on customer's cars) then he has really got a large investment in this car.  If it were mine, I definitely wouldn't call it cheap.    :Twocents:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: cbrestorations on October 13, 2017, 09:30:24 AM
Quote from: garner7555 on October 13, 2017, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?



If you think this build is being done "cheap as possible" then you must live a wonderful life.  This car may not win car shows, but he has spent quite a large amount of money on drive train.  When you count labor (because he could have been making money working on customer's cars) then he has really got a large investment in this car.  If it were mine, I definitely wouldn't call it cheap.    :Twocents:

When the car is turn key done I will have around 40k in it
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 13, 2017, 09:38:00 AM
When mine is done that's about my target figure.....unfortunately that pounds (£) not dollars!!! ....even though a £ in not worth much more than a dollar these days....thanks for that BREXIT!! But mine includes paint (the ONLY thing I'm farming out....)....everything else I'm doing myself.......even the engine build (buying in the parts, block etc of course...not quite able to cast my own!!!). So considering CBREST has no paint/bodywork to fund and does everything himself Id say the bill is far from cheap.....no doubt that motor/blower combo ate a lot of the cash. Looking very cool though!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 13, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
I soon realized horsepower ain't cheap when done correctly to be reliable. Just my fuel system I have almost 3k in, clutch to hold 1000hp is 2k, engine itself about 7k, blower alone 8k, engine management system 2500, Used jerico trans 2k, cooling system I have 500 in (used NASCAR stuff), brakes I have 3k in, wheels and tires 3300, suspension around 3k, the car itself was 6500, interior I have 2k in (not done yet either), exhaust I have 2k in....dammit, I just added the numbers and I'll be well over 40k when done lol. Stupid numbers
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 13, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
8k for the blower alone? Ouch. I'm using your last post as evidence to my wife that my used 8-71 was cracking value at £750 to my door...even though it needs a rebuild ! Will make little difference though...she will still give me "that look" whenever I mention money and the Charger in the same sentence. I'm sure many of you married guys out there know exactly the look I mean.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: CDN72SE on October 13, 2017, 12:47:49 PM
I know the look, that's all I'll say, she may be reading this, lol.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: 70 sublime on October 13, 2017, 12:54:39 PM
I just stopped telling my wife how much $$
She gave up on "the look" long ago
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: mike69440 on October 13, 2017, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: garner7555 on October 13, 2017, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?


If you think this build is being done "cheap as possible" then you must live a wonderful life.  This car may not win car shows, but he has spent quite a large amount of money on drive train.  When you count labor (because he could have been making money working on customer's cars) then he has really got a large investment in this car.  If it were mine, I definitely wouldn't call it cheap.    :Twocents:

I don't believe you understood I was joking.  There is an awful lot of cash, fine planning and craftsmanship that went into Daisy.

I'm sure the OP never dreamed he would take it this far.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Kern Dog on October 13, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
I am a smart ass and a smart aleck....I get misunderstood a whole lot online. I rarely go on the attack against anyone but my sarcasm is often hard to convey. I guess it is more common than I thought!
Those emoticons above do help...a laugh, the head slap, eye roll... they do come in handy to soften the blow of the joke- insults.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build, See your first post on this thread.
Post by: cbrestorations on October 14, 2017, 01:55:40 AM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 13, 2017, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: garner7555 on October 13, 2017, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: mike69440 on October 12, 2017, 07:20:13 PM
A lot of used parts, Cheap as possible?  Huh?  That was way back.

n efficient inter-cooled Axial flow compressor, i.e. KB or Whipple works wonders for big time grunt. 

Sure have a lot of time effort parts and skill into "Daisy"

You know, 2nd Gen Chargers clean up real well.

Ever think about sealing up the body & rattle can flat black till you finally decide she should be pretty?


If you think this build is being done "cheap as possible" then you must live a wonderful life.  This car may not win car shows, but he has spent quite a large amount of money on drive train.  When you count labor (because he could have been making money working on customer's cars) then he has really got a large investment in this car.  If it were mine, I definitely wouldn't call it cheap.    :Twocents:

I don't believe you understood I was joking.  There is an awful lot of cash, fine planning and craftsmanship that went into Daisy.

I'm sure the OP never dreamed he would take it this far.


Pretty much dead one, I didn't plan on this car. It just morphed into what it is now. A lot of things I wanna do different but instead of back tracking I'll just finish it how it is. I'll improve on "daisy 2.0" lol. Learned a lot on this one
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 14, 2017, 10:50:57 AM
donked out my ride with some new spinners yo...and ditched the ol' dumpster wheels
(https://s1.postimg.org/2yzytp1fzz/IMG_0689.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/1zjvgjbz8f/IMG_0697.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: TPR on October 28, 2017, 05:36:32 PM
Saw you with Daisy on Roadkill's live fb feed.
Nice work Man.
:2thumbs:
TPR
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on October 28, 2017, 11:51:35 PM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on October 29, 2017, 12:29:39 AM
I was looking for you guys, but someone said you took off in a hurry.    :shruggy:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 29, 2017, 12:46:37 AM
Took off in a hurry? I didn't spend a lot of time with the car. Was busy looking at what there was to see at the show
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on October 29, 2017, 01:30:57 AM
You did good, any plans on paint?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: garner7555 on October 29, 2017, 05:55:21 AM
This has been one of my favorite builds to follow.   Great work   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Derwud on October 29, 2017, 07:57:14 AM
Saw the car in person.. Awesome build..
Who makes the wheels..
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: alfaitalia on October 29, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
Looking better than ever. Anything blown (er herm!) gets my vote.

Please don't paint it.....looks great as it is. Wont look "rat" painted!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: tan top on October 29, 2017, 06:06:19 PM
 :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on October 29, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
Quote from: alfaitalia on October 29, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
Looking better than ever. Anything blown (er herm!) gets my vote.

Please don't paint it.....looks great as it is. Wont look "rat" painted!

Since mine is blown and hemi do I get 2 thumbs up lol
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: djcarguy on October 29, 2017, 08:19:22 PM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on October 29, 2017, 09:24:24 PM
    :2thumbs:
+ :2thumbs:
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= :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Ponch ® on November 02, 2017, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Derwud on October 29, 2017, 07:57:14 AM

Who makes the wheels..

Exactly the same question I asked at the Fling...
http://vintagewheelsus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=57&products_id=508
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 02, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Vintage wheels, took me awhile to find the right wheel for this car
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on November 02, 2017, 11:40:39 PM
Looking awesome, can't wait to hear it.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on November 03, 2017, 01:22:37 AM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on October 29, 2017, 01:30:57 AM
You did good, any plans on paint?

ive thought about it, but 9 out of 10 people said i hope ur not painting this, and i agree it looked more rugged as is
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on November 03, 2017, 02:21:16 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on November 03, 2017, 01:22:37 AM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on October 29, 2017, 01:30:57 AM
You did good, any plans on paint?

ive thought about it, but 9 out of 10 people said i hope ur not painting this, and i agree it looked more rugged as is
Awesome, I like it the way it is too.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: chapel40 on November 03, 2017, 03:11:38 AM
I like it however you like it!! Bad AZZ :drool5:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 02, 2017, 09:57:38 AM
Lotta work done since last post, fuel system, ice box for intercooler, and started making the stainless headers out of a used set of NASCAR headers I've cut up and re shaped. Best headers being tri-y's and fab work is best for the NASCAR stuff. Just a pain welding .025" thick thin wall stainless
(https://s8.postimg.org/mn8eg8mtx/IMG_1328.jpg)
(https://s8.postimg.org/usqgee3d1/IMG_1327.jpg)
(https://s8.postimg.org/96bfxcx2t/IMG_1326.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: richf on December 02, 2017, 06:11:59 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Charger-Bodie on December 02, 2017, 06:26:54 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: funknut on December 02, 2017, 07:53:43 PM
Looks awesome!  If you can grab a pic would be cool to see the headers out of the car before install.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on December 02, 2017, 08:13:40 PM
Wanting some rolling, noisey video here... :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: chargerboy69 on December 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: BDF on December 02, 2017, 08:13:40 PM
Wanting some rolling, noisey video here... :popcrn:

This.


This build is easily in the top five best cars on this forum in my opinion. With the car dropped so low any rubbing with the tires front or rear?
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 03, 2017, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on December 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: BDF on December 02, 2017, 08:13:40 PM
Wanting some rolling, noisey video here... :popcrn:

This.


This build is easily in the top five best cars on this forum in my opinion. With the car dropped so low any rubbing with the tires front or rear?

No rubbing, that's why I flared the fenders and quarters, plus I made a new outer wheel house that allows the drop. I have 10" wide tires up front too and have more steering angle than a stock charger. Had to remove battery tray recess as tire was hitting it.
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Mopar Nut on December 03, 2017, 04:19:19 PM
 :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: Derwud on December 11, 2017, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 02, 2017, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Derwud on October 29, 2017, 07:57:14 AM

Who makes the wheels..

Exactly the same question I asked at the Fling...
http://vintagewheelsus.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=57&products_id=508

They also sell Smith Gauges.... :eyes: :brickwall:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: aerolith on December 15, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Nice work CB.

Blue Collar Chargers are all the rage... :coolgleamA:

Resto is so '20th Century', I'm so glad as I can save a fortune doing my 69 now lol... :D
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: cbrestorations on December 15, 2017, 12:18:15 PM
1 header beeze done and the other half way. I built this header where it could be removed and installed without removing the engine, steering shaft or anything. The flange was cut in half so it's a 2 piece header that slips in its individual collectors
(https://s18.postimg.org/9vzbubj2h/IMG_1552.jpg)
(https://s18.postimg.org/rm10fd4d5/IMG_1556.jpg)
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: BDF on December 15, 2017, 08:57:20 PM
You are quite the fab-master!  :yesnod:  :2thumbs:  :cheers:
Title: Re: rat muscle "daisy" build
Post by: chapel40 on December 30, 2017, 12:34:40 AM
Wow!! that's cool