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here is my favorite nascar
Here's mine.
Someday I want to get a 60's Belvedere and make a Petty stocker for the street ::)
With the new COT, this years races will be dependent upon engines and on Sunday Dodge had the best engine. Even though they don't use production blocks anymore.
GO Bobby Labonte (as long as he is driving the #43 car!!)
ok so I have to also say:
Go Kasey Kahne: for hubby
Go Reed Sorenson: for middle daughter
Go Elliot sadler: for eldest
and:
Go Newman for youngest (or was it Kurt Bush..she can't make up her mind....well she is two!!!!)
I think this sums up my opinion of the current state of the "sport"
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40116.0.html
Did You hear that Girl sing the National Anthem Yesterday. :eek2: :eek2:
It was Awfull.
Said She won some kind of contest, I would hate to hear the other People.
How's the Buick car doing?
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 25, 2008, 07:23:22 PM
Did You hear that Girl sing the National Anthem Yesterday. :eek2: :eek2:
It was Awfull.
Said She won some kind of contest, I would hate to hear the other People.
Ya, she was just a little off key eh? :P
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on February 25, 2008, 08:28:01 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 25, 2008, 07:23:22 PM
Did You hear that Girl sing the National Anthem Yesterday. :eek2: :eek2:
It was Awfull.
Said She won some kind of contest, I would hate to hear the other People.
Ya, she was just a little off key eh? :P
That was horrible. My wife wanted to crawl under the couch for her, she was so embarrassed.
And she was the winner of a singing contest. I would hate to hear the losers too. :o
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2008, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
we left at 7 pm.....we bought our tickets on e-bay (4 for $220) we were in section 49 row 7. It was sooooo cold and wet I am hurting from walking so much, but the free cans of snuff and the simulators and such were awesome...It was fun experiencing the whole real life action...(it was my first time at the track). But yeah otherwise it was f*cked......and the crash was crazy..........
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 26, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2008, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
we left at 7 pm.....we bought our tickets on e-bay (4 for $220) we were in section 49 row 7. It was sooooo cold and wet I am hurting from walking so much, but the free cans of snuff and the simulators and such were awesome...It was fun experiencing the whole real life action...(it was my first time at the track). But yeah otherwise it was f*cked......and the crash was crazy..........
Sorry your first time at the track wasn't as great as it could have been. It's funny...I wanna say "go back for the Labor Day race"...but on second thought, the last 2 years weve had to put up with 100-110F temps....
Too cold too hot....sounds like Kansas........ :lol:
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 26, 2008, 01:48:44 AM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 26, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2008, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
we left at 7 pm.....we bought our tickets on e-bay (4 for $220) we were in section 49 row 7. It was sooooo cold and wet I am hurting from walking so much, but the free cans of snuff and the simulators and such were awesome...It was fun experiencing the whole real life action...(it was my first time at the track). But yeah otherwise it was f*cked......and the crash was crazy..........
Sorry your first time at the track wasn't as great as it could have been. It's funny...I wanna say "go back for the Labor Day race"...but on second thought, the last 2 years weve had to put up with 100-110F temps....
I still had a great time...I went with hubby and two other friends. Hubby and I are thinking about going to the August race...But only if I can get a personal cooling device for my MS. I definitely wouldn't be able to make it through a race otherwise.
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 26, 2008, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 26, 2008, 01:48:44 AM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 26, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2008, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
we left at 7 pm.....we bought our tickets on e-bay (4 for $220) we were in section 49 row 7. It was sooooo cold and wet I am hurting from walking so much, but the free cans of snuff and the simulators and such were awesome...It was fun experiencing the whole real life action...(it was my first time at the track). But yeah otherwise it was f*cked......and the crash was crazy..........
Sorry your first time at the track wasn't as great as it could have been. It's funny...I wanna say "go back for the Labor Day race"...but on second thought, the last 2 years weve had to put up with 100-110F temps....
I still had a great time...I went with hubby and two other friends. Hubby and I are thinking about going to the August race...But only if I can get a personal cooling device for my MS. I definitely wouldn't be able to make it through a race otherwise.
I hope you can make it! The Labor Day race is usually a bit more exciting, since it's next to last before the Chase starts and some guys will be driving their asses off to make it (or stay) in.
Having said that, if you enjoyed the racing part of it, you should check out your local half mile NASCAR Weekly tracks. I don't know what they have down in San Diego, but up here in L.A. (well, not really L.A.) we got Irwindale Speedway. You get to see different types of racing (stock cars, trucks, figure 8's, demo derby), which is sometimes more fun to watch than a Cup race, and you don't have to deal with the crowds and the crappy weather. Plus, it's pretty cheap and family friendly.
NASCAR IS IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND !!!!!! Woo hoo! :2thumbs:
The Skips ;)
Quote from: skip68 on February 27, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
NASCAR IS IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND !!!!!! Woo hoo! :2thumbs:
The Skips ;)
I so want to go see the race, but can't.....dang daughter's birthday....lol
Quote from: skip68 on February 27, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
NASCAR IS IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND !!!!!! Woo hoo! :2thumbs:
The Skips ;)
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 28, 2008, 12:31:05 AM
I so want to go see the race
No you don't. Trust me. I did a NASCAR weekend in Vegas a couple of years ago....never again. First, the whole town (meaning the hotels, casinos, etc) is overrun by people wearing mullets, extremely old and ill fitting Purolator trucker hats, and 20 year old Rusty Wallace MGD white t-shirts that are almost see through at this point. You have to wait an eternity to get a table even at the crappy Sahara cafe, and getting to and from the track is a frigging nightmare (unless you wanna shell out $30 or more per person for one of those shuttles from the Strip - which, by the way, will be full of the above mentioned mulletteers, who are now drunk...)
This afternoon, they are going to parade all the racing haulers up the strip! (That's probably going to be a nightmare! :yesnod:)
Mrs.Skip68 ;)
Quote from: skip68 on February 28, 2008, 02:21:24 PM
This afternoon, they are going to parade all the racing haulers up the strip! (That's probably going to be a nightmare! :yesnod:)
Mrs.Skip68 ;)
Shouldnt be THAT bad...its a Thursday.
Quote from: skip68 on February 28, 2008, 02:21:24 PM
This afternoon, they are going to parade all the racing haulers up the strip! (That's probably going to be a nightmare! :yesnod:)
Mrs.Skip68 ;)
I bet that would be cool to see.
YEE HA!
Git er done
3 lefts make a right!!
We like Nascar...we watch all 3 series....very easy sport to follow if yer hammered.....and below picture is our favorite.
Bryan
nice :2thumbs:
I am watching qualifying. DW said Mcmuray needs to go back to the nationwide series......maybe so but what about his little brother :scratchchin:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 28, 2008, 09:08:18 PM
We like Nascar...we watch all 3 series....very easy sport to follow if yer hammered.....and below picture is our favorite.
Bryan
Man, Thats a cool Pic.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 29, 2008, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on February 28, 2008, 09:08:18 PM
We like Nascar...we watch all 3 series....very easy sport to follow if yer hammered.....and below picture is our favorite.
Bryan
Man, Thats a cool Pic.
That picture was taken at Talladega Raceway in 1999...ours is the purple car...behind us just coming into the picture is a friend of ours driving his OE Hemi 4spd 'Bird...
Bryan (what a trip that was)
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2008, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 25, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
I wasn't that bad in person...I would know 'cause I was there!!!
Hah! Me too! I was walking through the merchandise trailers during the anthem, though.
How late did you stay? We bailed right after they stopped it the 2nd time...we knew theyd never get it dry. Was that a clusterf--k or what though?
Either way, I wasnt too upset, since I got my tickets for free. I'd have been heated if I'd spent $300 on them like in the past.
I was gonna stay the weekend in CA to see the race but decided I'd rather come home. I'm glad I did. Who won the race anyways?
Quote from: skip68 on February 28, 2008, 02:21:24 PM
This afternoon, they are going to parade all the racing haulers up the strip! (That's probably going to be a nightmare! :yesnod:)
Mrs.Skip68 ;)
May I suggest you go to Paris and head up the Eiffel tower for lunch/drink and watch the parade from a table by the window. It'd be the best spot in town.
Another option, also in the Paris, is Mon Ami Gabi. They have tables on a patio by the sidewalk and they serve a delicious blue cheeseburger. Get there early and get a seat by the railing to see the parade.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 28, 2008, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: skip68 on February 27, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
NASCAR IS IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND !!!!!! Woo hoo! :2thumbs:
The Skips ;)
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 28, 2008, 12:31:05 AM
I so want to go see the race
No you don't. Trust me. I did a NASCAR weekend in Vegas a couple of years ago....never again. First, the whole town (meaning the hotels, casinos, etc) is overrun by people wearing mullets, extremely old and ill fitting Purolator trucker hats, and 20 year old Rusty Wallace MGD white t-shirts that are almost see through at this point. You have to wait an eternity to get a table even at the crappy Sahara cafe, and getting to and from the track is a frigging nightmare (unless you wanna shell out $30 or more per person for one of those shuttles from the Strip - which, by the way, will be full of the above mentioned mulletteers, who are now drunk...)
I was there in 2005, got drunk and got a touch of sunstroke. Left early to avoid the rush back to the strip. Took a cab and don't recall how much it was but.....
You summed it up pretty good.
Kasey had a good run today. . . Ryan . not so much.
Jeff sure took a hard hit. That really looked bad.
Jr. should have had that win. Need to clean those tires before the restart.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 02, 2008, 08:27:27 PM
Kasey had a good run today. . . Ryan . not so much.
Jeff sure took a hard hit. That really looked bad.
Jr. should have had that win. Need to clean those tires before the restart.
Thats one way to remove a radiator in the 24 car!
BBD
I like Carl. At least is wasn't a Toyota :lol:
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on March 02, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 02, 2008, 08:27:27 PM
Jeff sure took a hard hit. That really looked bad.
Thats one way to remove a radiator in the 24 car!
BBD
No kidding :lol:
That really was a hard hit.
Just goes to show You how well the safety restraints work in these cars.
A wreck like that in a passenger car ( even at 70 mph ) and RIP
I thought Kurt did a good job.
Went from a lap down to 15th before he blew a tire.
I have always been a Mark Martin fan...go Mark!
Well Toyoyo just won their first cup race, glad I only watched the last 12 laps. Ole DW sure was happy, I thought he was going to blow his load all over the mic the way he was cheering on Kyle Busch/Toyoyo.
Didn't really miss anything. It was one of the most boring races I seen in the past year.
The best part of the race was Stewert after the race blasting Goodyear Tires. He was his classic a-hole self.
And the fourth race in and I already can not stand listening to DW. I swear their is no bigger kiss ass for Toyota that that POS Waltrip.
Waltrip must have pulled his life saving out of Chevy and invested in Toyboata . A couple years ago all he could say was how great Chevy was . Did NASCRAP make a rule change to slow the Dodges down like usual ?
A lot of people don't like Tony Stewert because he speaks his mind. But on the other hand, I like people like Stewert that do speak their mind. It was the same for Earnhart Sr.. I have no problem speaking mine. And my girlfriend doesn't either. I seen her make a few guys nuts turn into raisins already :D
By the way Nissan is joining !!
I gave up on NARCAR (national association for rice car auto racing)
There is better racing at the local tracks, and I don't have to subsidize the France's.
Quote from: daytonalo on March 10, 2008, 12:40:51 AM
By the way Nissan is joining !!
Then Honda. :shruggy:
Well then it would be 3 on 3. :smilielol:
still hate DW and toyota
no because he is an anouncer and cant stay unbias
It must be nice to have off Monday. :cheers: I guess it's 5 o'clock somewhere ::)
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on March 09, 2008, 10:18:52 PM
A lot of people don't like Tony Stewert because he speaks his mind. But on the other hand, I like people like Stewert that do speak their mind. It was the same for Earnhart Sr.. I have no problem speaking mine. And my girlfriend doesn't either. I seen her make a few guys nuts turn into raisins already :D
I agree, I do like Stewert to for speeking his mind. I guess sometimes it is the way he comes across that rubs me the wrong way. He does make for entertaining interviews though.
being from Virginia I am a big Red Skins fan so we are all into Joe Gibbs Racing. Its not about the cars to me anymore, its more about the Drivers and the Pit crews. So that being said, I am coming out of the closet and telling everyone I am a Kyle Busch fan. I know, I know. Tony and Denny are my two other boys. Its hard to back a rice burner and I was not happy with them moving to Toyota but I just bit my lip and kept my bumper stickers.
Quote from: hutch on March 10, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
being from Virginia I am a big Red Skins fan so we are all into Joe Gibbs Racing. Its not about the cars to me anymore, its more about the Drivers and the Pit crews. So that being said, I am coming out of the closet and telling everyone I am a Kyle Busch fan. I know, I know. Tony and Denny are my two other boys. Its hard to back a rice burner and I was not happy with them moving to Toyota but I just bit my lip and kept my bumper stickers.
Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery. ;)
Kidding aside, my wife loves Kyle Busch too, and Kurt. There is nothing wrong with that, those two boys can drive. I like watching Kyle drive. He drives his car like he is on a dirt track half the time with the ass end sliding out.
I like the Busch Brothers.
For me nascar is all about the pit crews, Those guy's are what determins the outcome :Twocents:
:icon_smile_big:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 10, 2008, 04:16:42 PM
Quote from: hutch on March 10, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
being from Virginia I am a big Red Skins fan so we are all into Joe Gibbs Racing. Its not about the cars to me anymore, its more about the Drivers and the Pit crews. So that being said, I am coming out of the closet and telling everyone I am a Kyle Busch fan. I know, I know. Tony and Denny are my two other boys. Its hard to back a rice burner and I was not happy with them moving to Toyota but I just bit my lip and kept my bumper stickers.
Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery. ;)
Kidding aside, my wife loves Kyle Busch too, and Kurt. There is nothing wrong with that, those two boys can drive. I like watching Kyle drive. He drives his car like he is on a dirt track half the time with the ass end sliding out.
I think all the dirt track and small track background some of the races have makes all the difference. Kyle drives his car balls out every race and has no fear in the turns.
If the crew can keep his car together for 500 miles that boy will win just about every race.
Nascar made the cars all the same, its all down to engine, team management, pit crews and drivers now.
I would like to see more American makers in the mix but its a different world now.
GO NISSAN !!!!!!!! :icon_smile_big:
I see Dale Jarrett supports Stewert's tire comments.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-tires&prov=ap&type=lgns
Quote from: daytonalo on March 12, 2008, 10:10:06 AM
GO NISSAN !!!!!!!! :icon_smile_big:
Go Evinrude :icon_smile_big:
Get it right , Mercury Racing !!! They give you money back when you win , depending on what engine package you run !!!
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on March 12, 2008, 11:02:02 AM
I see Dale Jarrett supports Stewart's tire comments.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-tires&prov=ap&type=lgns
I read that in todays paper. People may not have liked how Tony delivered the message, but it seems to have gotten through loud and clear. I am glad that Jarret backed up his statement. It is ridiculous to think that now that the Cup cars and the Nationwide cars are so different that goodyear can just make one "compromise" tire. They need to make two separate tires for sure now. :2thumbs: Go Tony!!
I think I could easily drive a race car , think about it I race within inches of other boats but with one big difference , my race track is always changing , never the same race course conditions from one second to next .
Larry
Looks like Smoke doesn't want to be a 'yota man! :2thumbs:
Stewart to leave JGR? (http://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news20) UPDATE: Sources tell Sports Illustrated that #20-Tony Stewart is working on the final stages of a deal to move from Joe Gibbs Racing to Haas CNC next season. Considering the ramifications of such a move, no one's admitting anything quite yet, as you'd expect. When reached for comment, Haas CNC Racing spokesman Ron Mench claims there's been no communication between Stewart and the organization. Stewart's PR spokesman Mike Arning was noncommittal ("I've heard what you've heard," when asked about Haas CNC) but he reminded SI [Sports Illustrated] that Stewart's contract with Gibbs runs through the 2009 season. "He's there this year and he's there next year," claimed Arning. "And I know for a fact that JGR is interested in retaining Tony for '10 and beyond. They'd like him to retire at Joe Gibbs Racing. As Tony's said many times, 'Nothing's broke. Why change it?' Tony's going to have a lot of options in front of him; why wouldn't he? But I don't see [an early out happening] ... everyone is going to live up to the terms of the contract that runs through '09." However, sources are adamant that not just the talking, but deal-making is already taking place for Stewart to go elsewhere. And, while sometimes a formidable opponent, contracts can be easily bought out, as Jamie McMurray and Kurt Busch have shown us in recent years.(Sports Illustrated)(4-23-2008)
UPDATE: Tony Stewart has begun discussion with Joe Gibbs Racing officials about his future with the company, ESPN.com has learned. And that future, sources say, is questionable. Multiple sources close to the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity said Stewart told Gibbs officials that he'd like to be released from the final year of his current driving contract, which expires at the conclusion of the 2009 season. "He definitely has some options," JGR president J.D. Gibbs said. "To me it's no different than any of the the options he's had before. The reality is he's racing here through 2009. There's no ifs, ands or buts about that one. Our stance is he's racing for us through 2009." Stewart's publicist, Mike Arning, said "Tony's contract is through the 2009 season. When that is up he'll have a lot of options for 2010 and beyond. But in terms of what he's going to do, or might do, for now and in between, as far as JGR is concerned he's their driver for 2009." Sources said Stewart is intrigued by the thought of team ownership. One potential scenario mentioned was a partnership with Haas/CNC Racing, under which Stewart would own as much as a 50% stake in the race team that currently fields the #66 and #70 Chevys. Under that scenario he would drive one of those two machines. Haas GM Joe Custer said he has spoken with several people about the future status of his team, including Stewart's group. He was adamant that his team has reached no deal with Stewart, but would "by all means be interested in discussing a partnership with a driver of his caliber." Such a move would reunite Stewart with Chevrolet, which sources said was of the utmost importance to the driver, given that he's driven for General Motors for most of his career, and that GM sponsors Stewart's open wheel sprint car program. Gibbs switched to Toyotas from Chevrolets in 2008. Haas/CNC Racing currently fields cars built and powered by Hendrick Motorsports, the organization that has won four Cup championships in the past 10 years, including the past two.(ESPN.com), am sure this will be much discussed about over the weekend at Talladega, there are already many articles posted on the Article Links page about the subject.(4-24-2008)
Smoke needs to cut back on the cheese burgers. Now that their cars are all standard, HP for driver LBS is a factor more than it was in the past. Frist the Kurt Bush drama, Goodyear drama now its toyota drama and Tony loves the drama, and radio ratings. I think the boy needs to cut back on the food. Kyle Bush is ripping up every track in the toyotas. It might be some changes in his crew could help. Along with a change in food intake.
They all need to stay in shape, its a new kind of NASCAR.
Round is a shape!!!!!
Bologna Stewart!
BBD ;D
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on April 26, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
Round is a shape!!!!!
Bologna Stewart!
BBD ;D
True,,,
The boys are in my home town this weekend (Richmond). Look for me on Speed tv. I will be the drunk red neck in the crowd!
:2thumbs:
Gotta hold up a sign with my site & DC.com so we know who you are ;)
Quote from: hutch on April 28, 2008, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on April 26, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
Round is a shape!!!!!
Bologna Stewart!
BBD ;D
True,,,
The boys are in my home town this weekend (Richmond). Look for me on Speed tv. I will be the drunk red neck in the crowd!
:2thumbs:
You're gonna have to narrow that down a bit! ;D
BBD
Well, the Nationwide race went my way. I am a Joe Gibbs Racing fan and Denny 1st with Kyle Busch not to far behine was nice. Kyle got into some drama at the end. Not sure if it was a fist fight in the pits or not. Looked like it from the Jumbo Tron.
Quote from: hutch on May 02, 2008, 10:46:23 PM
Well, the Nationwide race went my way. I am a Joe Gibbs Racing fan and Denny 1st with Kyle Busch not to far behine was nice. Kyle got into some drama at the end. Not sure if it was a fist fight in the pits or not. Looked like it from the Jumbo Tron.
Too bad they drive yoyos! :puke: :puke:
Here's a photo from Phoenix International Raceway...2005 I think
Quote from: raybeez on May 03, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
Here's a photo from Phoenix International Raceway...2005 I think
I think I have a piece of that car of Ryans.
Quote from: raybeez on May 03, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
Here's a photo from Phoenix International Raceway...2005 I think
now THAT'S a cool racecar!!!
Hey Chargerboy69, Check this out...NOPE it AIN'T a Die Cast. That is the 03 8 win paint job, and I've partially finished the Sony Car from Dover that year!
Well, just got done watching the race tonight.
Somebody's got to give Kyle Busch a facefull of knuckles! What a cheap shot...pushing 'lil Earnhardt up the racetrack and out of winning the race.
Then to hear D. Waltrip in the booth "explain" things to us who were watching....insulting!
I mean, doesn't D.W. sponsor Toyota? I think I clearly saw Kyle's tires turning UP toward the outside wall while he was driving INTO Earnhardt.
I watched the clip of the night BEFORE where Kyle Busch was in another altercation with a different driver. When is NASCAR gonna do something about this jerk!?!? :flame:
At least there were two Dodge vehicles in the top ten!
Kyle Busch is such a pinhead. I will say that he got loose going into the corner. The problem is, he knows that is what will happen and he does it anyway. I was hoping Mark Martin would have clipped him, but Mark isn't a cheap shot driver like Peewee Herman. What a douchbag!
I will tell you this, Steve Wallace won't take any crap from Kyle in the Nationwide Series. He bumped Kyle, then pulled up to let Kyle go by him and Kyle still drove into him after the race and then went to go give him a piece of his mind. Wallace just grab his helmet and yanked it a little. Afterwards, Kyle said Steve might want to be careful because Steve is running for points and Kyle isn't. If Kyle tears up any more of Rusty's cars in the Nationwide Series, Rusty will probably get in a car to rub Kyle into the wall a few times since he won't be running for points either. I would love to see that. :icon_smile_big:
I thought it was pretty funny that DW didn't saying anything about his little bro being parked after acting like an idiot.......... :rofl:
BBD
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on May 03, 2008, 11:36:47 PM
I thought it was pretty funny that DW didn't saying anything about his little bro being parked after acting like an idiot.......... :rofl:
BBD
DW is such a tool. Mikey and Toyota do no wrong.
One thing my wife and I noticed is DW's hair last night. He needs to lay off the old man "Just for Men" red hair color. Thrown in a couple pigtails and he will be doing commercials for Wendys.
I do not think Kyle wrecked Jr. on purpose. Kyle is an aggressive driver and pushed it. I felt so bad for Jr. last night. In the interview I thought the guy was going to cry. That guy needs a win.
Quote from: pettyfan43 on May 03, 2008, 07:06:10 PM
Hey Chargerboy69, Check this out...NOPE it AIN'T a Die Cast. That is the 03 8 win paint job, and I've partially finished the Sony Car from Dover that year!
Cool. Like to see pics when its done.
The # 3 car did things like this for years and everyone :punkrocka:
Someone does it to his son and everyone :bawling:
Ain't that the truth.
Big E and Darrel Waltrip . . . those two might as well have been holding their steering wheels wearing boxing gloves during the mid-80s.
I wasn't a fan of Big E's either, just for this reason. The cheapest shot I thought he ever gave anybody was Terry Labonte at Bristol. :flame: Anybody can win if they wreck the competition.
Kyle Busch has got to be the biggest baby in the series now. I wish somebody would wreck a few of Joe Gibbs' #18 cars and shut that dumba** up. I was halfway hoping Jr would pull a Cole Trickle when he came in to get tires after Kyle spun him. Change four tires and drive out onto the track right into the side of that #18. That would have been priceless to see.
#3 always had his share of detractors in the crowd, but he could have really been THE totally hated bad-guy of the whole sport if he had done things just a little bit differently.
Imagine if he hadn't been quite as good a driver. And imagine if he'd been just a little bit less of a hardass about ignoring his own safety and injuries. He could have gone down in NASCAR history as a pretty textbook villian behind the wheel.
I was in the stands and saw it real time. its racing. When you are down to two laps to go you are not going to just slow down and let someone pass you and give them the win because their name is Dale Jr. Cant fault Kyle or anyone in the last laps of a race.
Everyone wants to act like Kyle is the bad guy when he drives just like what Dale Sr did back in the day and we all loved him for it. Its racing. Damn good racing too. Cant just get all soft in the last few laps and let people have the right of way on a track heading to the checker flag. You got to fight for that win or no one will want to watch. The sport will turn into socker or something gay like that.
Looks like the Penske Dodge boys might be getting a new teamate.
Jayski- Truex to Penske? with UPS? hearing that Martin Truex, current driver of the #1 DEI Chevy, could be headed to a 4th Penske Racing team with UPS as the sponsor.(5-4-2008) Comment here
And I think everyone knew Stewart was going to leave Gibbs. That switch to Toyota cost them a great driver. Rumors are also floating that Ryan Newman might sign on with Tony if this happens. Ryan and Tony are great friends. And Ryans contract is up at the end of 2010. But as we know, drivers leave early.
Jayski- Latest Stewart Rumor...Bass Pro Shops? There has been no official word from either side, but it is becoming increasingly likely that #20-Tony Stewart will indeed leave car owners Joe and J.D. Gibbs at the end of this season, to start his own team, under the Rick Hendrick Chevrolet [with Haas CNC?] umbrella, possibly with Bass Pro Shops as his sponsor. If Stewart does depart, that would leave the Gibbses looking for a new driver. Joey Logano's chances of getting the nod? Sunday's Carolina 500 at Rockingham Speedway could offer clues. Logano is to start from the pole.(Winston Salem Journal)(5-8-2008) Comment here
Quote from: hutch on May 05, 2008, 10:41:03 AM
I was in the stands and saw it real time. its racing. When you are down to two laps to go you are not going to just slow down and let someone pass you and give them the win because their name is Dale Jr. Cant fault Kyle or anyone in the last laps of a race.
Everyone wants to act like Kyle is the bad guy when he drives just like what Dale Sr did back in the day and we all loved him for it. Its racing. Damn good racing too. Cant just get all soft in the last few laps and let people have the right of way on a track heading to the checker flag. You got to fight for that win or no one will want to watch. The sport will turn into socker or something gay like that.
He doesn't have to do it all the time...he is not Dale and never will be. He will find out how soft the safer barriers are if he keeps it up :D
Quote from: The70RT on May 05, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: hutch on May 05, 2008, 10:41:03 AM
I was in the stands and saw it real time. its racing. When you are down to two laps to go you are not going to just slow down and let someone pass you and give them the win because their name is Dale Jr. Cant fault Kyle or anyone in the last laps of a race.
Everyone wants to act like Kyle is the bad guy when he drives just like what Dale Sr did back in the day and we all loved him for it. Its racing. Damn good racing too. Cant just get all soft in the last few laps and let people have the right of way on a track heading to the checker flag. You got to fight for that win or no one will want to watch. The sport will turn into socker or something gay like that.
He doesn't have to do it all the time...he is not Dale and never will be. He will find out how soft the safer barriers are if he keeps it up :D
:icon_smile_big:
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opinion/05/05/jmenzer.dearnhardtjr.kybusch.bad.boy/index.html
Right or wrong, it's good to have bad boy Busch here
Busch's aggressiveness reminiscent of Junior's father
By Joe Menzer, NASCAR.COM
:scratchchin: :scratchchin:
That new Challenger pace car sure looks cool out in front of the Nationwide series :yesnod: :drool5:
It was out in front for the Sprint cup as well. Pretty hot.
Oh and by the way.
GO KYLE 18! That kid can drive.
:nana: :D
Quote from: hutch on May 12, 2008, 09:25:28 AM
It was out in front for the Sprint cup as well. Pretty hot.
Oh and by the way.
GO KYLE 18! That kid can drive.
:nana: :D
Your right, that kid sure can drive. I think he is one reason Gibbs does not really care that they are losing Stewart.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on May 12, 2008, 09:47:05 AM
Quote from: hutch on May 12, 2008, 09:25:28 AM
It was out in front for the Sprint cup as well. Pretty hot.
Oh and by the way.
GO KYLE 18! That kid can drive.
:nana: :D
Your right, that kid sure can drive. I think he is one reason Gibbs does not really care that they are losing Stewart.
To come back from last after that lug nut deal in the pits. Man that was just unreal on a track like the lady in black. He had almost no breaks and his stearing was all screwed up, He hit the wall 9 times. And he overcame that last place deal to win it with ease in the last 10 laps.
I could not sleep till about 4am after that race. I was blown away watching it replay out on my DVR.
the kid is the Tiger Woods of NASCAR right now I think.
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Kyle (Pee Wee Herman) Busch is still a Ass H*** Cry Baby.
I think Nascar wanted a new hero this year, so they are letting all the teams that he drives for get away with a few more horse power. That's the only way he can win in all three divisions. How else can some one go from no wins to winning almost everything there is in every division. If he was so good, I think Hendrick would of kept him. :Twocents:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on May 12, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
Kyle (Pee Wee Herman) Busch is still a Ass H*** Cry Baby.
I think Nascar wanted a new hero this year, so they are letting all the teams that he drives for get away with a few more horse power. That's the only way he can win in all three divisions. How else can some one go from no wins to winning almost everything there is in every division. If he was so good, I think Hendrick would of kept him. :Twocents:
I agree and disagree with parts of your last post.
First, I agree he is a dick. And the kid could use a personality make-over.
But the kid has been winning for a few years now. He did not just start winning this year. In the Cup series he has 14 wins total. Not bad for a 22 year old kid. As far as Hendrick letting him go, go back to my first point. He is a dick, and they were able to replace him with the most popular driver in NASCAR, Dale Jr. Hendrick is making so much more money with Jr. than Kyle, even though Jr. has not won a race. Jr brought in 75% of DEI's income. I personally think Jr. and Hendrick did not want the number 8 or Bud as a sponsor so all the fans would be forced to buy all new gear.
I do not think they brought in Jr. to win, Kyle was doing that. They brought in Jr. for the cash.
When Tony Stewart pisses and moans it's OK 'cause he's speaking his mind but when Kyle Busch does it he is a cry baby? :shruggy:
I dont like either one they are both cry baby's and drive toyota :Twocents: :Twocents:
Quote from: Shakey on May 12, 2008, 02:33:02 PM
When Tony Stewart pisses and moans it's OK 'cause he's speaking his mind but when Kyle Busch does it he is a cry baby? :shruggy:
I like Tony, but he still needs a good kick in the ass once in a while.
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on May 12, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
Kyle (Pee Wee Herman) Busch is still a Ass H*** Cry Baby.
I think Nascar wanted a new hero this year, so they are letting all the teams that he drives for get away with a few more horse power. That's the only way he can win in all three divisions. How else can some one go from no wins to winning almost everything there is in every division. If he was so good, I think Hendrick would of kept him. :Twocents:
OK I can't STAND Kyle Busch and Kurt is not one of my favorites (though he has GREATLY matured in the past two years)
But those two guys CAN drive the CRAP out of a racecar. The 5 car hasn't been a consistent car with Hendrick since Terry Labonte left (He and Schrader are my favorite Hendrick drivers EVER Especially the ICEMAN!) And the 25 car NEVER HAS been a consistent winner since Tim Richmond. The 24,48 and 88 get the good proven RELIABLE stuff, the 5 and 25 are R&D cars! That is all they have been for years!
Quote from: moparstuart on May 12, 2008, 02:41:07 PM
I dont like either one they are both cry baby's and drive toyota :Twocents: :Twocents:
Yeah buddy :2thumbs:
Quote from: pettyfan43 on May 12, 2008, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on May 12, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
Kyle (Pee Wee Herman) Busch is still a Ass H*** Cry Baby.
I think Nascar wanted a new hero this year, so they are letting all the teams that he drives for get away with a few more horse power. That's the only way he can win in all three divisions. How else can some one go from no wins to winning almost everything there is in every division. If he was so good, I think Hendrick would of kept him. :Twocents:
OK I can't STAND Kyle Busch and Kurt is not one of my favorites (though he has GREATLY matured in the past two years)
But those two guys CAN drive the CRAP out of a racecar.
Heck yea. I am starting a team, along with a handfull of other drivers, the Busch brothers are at the top of my list of drivers.
For a popularity contest, no. . . .To win.
pretty much all of the great racers were ass holes. DW was a jerk in his day as was Dale Sr. We dont watch racing because the guy we like is nice and goes around making sure he does not bump into someone or make someone upset. We watch it because the guy(s) we like drive hard and win and risk their lives to entertain us.
Being a dick is not an issue. I dont put money into a race or sit for 5 hours so I can see everyone hug each other on TV. I want hard ass racing. His bitching does get to me but I dont care because he wins.
I dont understand why so many people are Dale Jr fans. I guess its because of his last name.
Quote from: hutch on May 12, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
pretty much all of the great racers were ass holes. DW was a jerk in his day as was Dale Sr. We dont watch racing because the guy we like is nice and goes around making sure he does not bump into someone or make someone upset. We watch it because the guy(s) we like drive hard and win and risk their lives to entertain us.
Being a dick is not an issue. I dont put money into a race or sit for 5 hours so I can see everyone hug each other on TV. I want hard ass racing. His bitching does get to me but I dont care because he wins.
I dont understand why so many people are Dale Jr fans. I guess its because of his last name.
Non asshole champions - Richard Petty, Both Labonte's, Dale Jarret, & Mark Martin ran second in points for I think 4 times. I guess If Mark raced like Kyle Busch He would have been a 5 time champion.
Quote from: The70RT on May 12, 2008, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: hutch on May 12, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
pretty much all of the great racers were ass holes. DW was a jerk in his day as was Dale Sr. We dont watch racing because the guy we like is nice and goes around making sure he does not bump into someone or make someone upset. We watch it because the guy(s) we like drive hard and win and risk their lives to entertain us.
Being a dick is not an issue. I dont put money into a race or sit for 5 hours so I can see everyone hug each other on TV. I want hard ass racing. His bitching does get to me but I dont care because he wins.
I dont understand why so many people are Dale Jr fans. I guess its because of his last name.
Non asshole champions - Richard Petty, Both Labonte's, Dale Jarret, & Mark Martin ran second in points for I think 4 times. I guess If Mark raced like Kyle Busch He would have been a 5 time champion.
I will give you that.
Jerret and Martin are the two good guys thats for sure. And the King has class thats for sure. I just like more excitment in my racing, thats all.
I think Tony Stewart should drive for a dodge team...
We need a guy who doesn't mind pushing people out of the way!
Kurt Busch used to be more aggressive. Not as much now that he's in a dodge.
Quote from: 73chgrSE on May 14, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Kurt Busch used to be more aggressive. Not as much now that he's in a dodge.
because they're not fast enough to catch anybody for a bump n run? :lol:
Quote from: Ponch ® on May 14, 2008, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: 73chgrSE on May 14, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Kurt Busch used to be more aggressive. Not as much now that he's in a dodge.
because they're not fast enough to catch anybody for a bump n run? :lol:
Unless your at Daytona on the last lap....then you don't need to bump & run anyway.
Quote from: The70RT on May 14, 2008, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on May 14, 2008, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: 73chgrSE on May 14, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Kurt Busch used to be more aggressive. Not as much now that he's in a dodge.
because they're not fast enough to catch anybody for a bump n run? :lol:
Unless your at Daytona on the last lap....then you don't need to bump & run anyway.
Thats because it was a bump and push. :)
What gets Toyota rolling so fast is it has a stake in Formula 1, Nascar, Baha and street Motorcycle and offroad Motorcycle racing. Outside fo Honda, Toyota has a large racing stake in the engine game. Dodge is all worried about what a bunch of commies in DC have to say.
Quote from: hutch on May 14, 2008, 05:30:22 PM
What gets Toyota rolling so fast is it has a stake in Formula 1, Nascar, Baha and street Motorcycle and offroad Motorcycle racing. Outside fo Honda, Toyota has a large racing stake in the engine game. Dodge is all worried about what a bunch of commies in DC have to say.
I don't know if I agree with that. Toyota does participate in all sorts of motorsports, but it has only been successful in the ones where it either completely outspends everyone or the other manufacturers aren't really trying (Baja, NASCAR Trucks). But then you look at their experiences in the IRL - they were basically run of the sport by Honda. Formula One...billions spent and not a single victory (or even close to one) to show for it. Then you have NASCAR. They're pretty much dominating Cup and Nationwide right now, but I have a suspicion that it's not so much Toyota as it is Gibbs. If you look at the other Toyota teams, they're not really that much better than they were last year. I have a strong suspicion that this would have been Gibbs' year whether it was with Toyota, Chevy, or KIA.
Anyone remember this guy? I think he drives a chebby now...usually in the back of the pack.
Quote from: Ponch ® on May 14, 2008, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: hutch on May 14, 2008, 05:30:22 PM
What gets Toyota rolling so fast is it has a stake in Formula 1, Nascar, Baha and street Motorcycle and offroad Motorcycle racing. Outside fo Honda, Toyota has a large racing stake in the engine game. Dodge is all worried about what a bunch of commies in DC have to say.
I don't know if I agree with that. Toyota does participate in all sorts of motorsports, but it has only been successful in the ones where it either completely outspends everyone or the other manufacturers aren't really trying (Baja, NASCAR Trucks). But then you look at their experiences in the IRL - they were basically run of the sport by Honda. Formula One...billions spent and not a single victory (or even close to one) to show for it. Then you have NASCAR. They're pretty much dominating Cup and Nationwide right now, but I have a suspicion that it's not so much Toyota as it is Gibbs. If you look at the other Toyota teams, they're not really that much better than they were last year. I have a strong suspicion that this would have been Gibbs' year whether it was with Toyota, Chevy, or KIA.
Good points. Gibbs is the main reason why I liked Kyle, Denny and Smoke. Being from Virginia I am a Redskins fan. Joe Gibbs is one hell of a team sport motivator.
Quote from: raybeez on May 14, 2008, 11:40:24 PM
Anyone remember this guy? I think he drives a chebby now...usually in the back of the pack.
Originaly Sterling Marlin. He was ahead in the points race and broke his neck at Kansas Speedway inaugural race :eek2: The next week Jami Mcmurray won in that car. David Stremie (spelled wrong?) took over after that and didn't do crap.
http://www.nascar.com/promos/allstar/vote/login.html
not too late to vote for fan favorite if you have a NASCAR account.
Quote from: raybeez on May 14, 2008, 11:40:24 PM
Anyone remember this guy? I think he drives a chebby now...usually in the back of the pack.
Sterling Marlin
I got to meet him once, Very nice Guy.
I got a signed Coors Light raceing cap.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on May 17, 2008, 07:57:36 AM
Quote from: raybeez on May 14, 2008, 11:40:24 PM
Anyone remember this guy? I think he drives a chebby now...usually in the back of the pack.
Sterling Marlin
I got to meet him once, Very nice Guy.
I got a signed Coors Light raceing cap.
I remember a couple years ago Sterling got into Ryan Newman and spun him out. Ryan said on his radio he wandered if Sterlings hairpiece fell down and he could not see. :smilielol: :smilielol:
We have a million dollar winner! GO KASEY :boogie: The bottom pic is for the yodas..... Sorry Kyle :'(
Quote from: The70RT on May 17, 2008, 10:08:52 PM
We have a million dollar winner! GO KASEY :boogie: The bottom pic is for the yodas..... Sorry Kyle :'(
Now a 600 winner :cheers: Sorry Tony :nana:
Finally a sweet mopar win! :2thumbs:
I feel bad for lil Earnhardt, but he did finish 5th so it wasn't so bad.
Looks like "smoke" got smoked :smilielol:
The only thing that would have made it better is if lil Busch would have wrecked his 'yota.
I was hoping Tony's tires would hold out. I thought his tires might not last when he came in with 50-60 laps and only got fuel. His tires were on there a long time. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Glad Kasey was there to get the win instead of Pee Wee Herman. I think Evernham is finally getting things together on Kaseys team. :2thumbs:
The even hand of NASCAR.
18 in front of the 22... on restart.
Who needs technology :shruggy:
That was a great race.
Loved to see Kasey win that one. :2thumbs:
Oh boy, bring on the Kyle haters... :lol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
That was a great race in Dover.
The kid drives a great race.
Took a extra long nap in the middle of this race though. A little to boring in the middle for me.
Quote from: hutch on June 01, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
Oh boy, bring on the Kyle haters... :lol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
That was a great race in Dover.
I love the fact that Kyle is kicking ass. Proves more and more every day what an idiot Hendricks is for replacing one of the best drivers with an slightly above average driver. Hendricks is obviously more interested in making money from the Dale Jr. merchandising machine than winning a championship. He should have booted Casey Mears instead.
With future star 18 y.o. Joey Logano now racing for Gibbs they can dump the over the hill Stewart (he's leaving anyway) and have three young guns that will corner the market on championships for the forseeable future.
It's too bad Gibbs didn't switch to Dodge. Would have been nice to have one good team to root for.
Gonna be a long season for me. :rotz:
Quote from: General_01 on June 01, 2008, 07:38:35 PM
Gonna be a long season for me. :rotz:
No kidding. I think he is the biggest ass ever in the sport. No kidding. Plus me, my son, and my dad believe Nascar is letting him get away with more power in whatever he is driving so they can create a new "hero". :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 02, 2008, 12:51:38 AM
Quote from: General_01 on June 01, 2008, 07:38:35 PM
Gonna be a long season for me. :rotz:
No kidding. I think he is the biggest ass ever in the sport. No kidding. Plus me, my son, and my dad believe Nascar is letting him get away with more power in whatever he is driving so they can create a new "hero". :icon_smile_dissapprove:
I dont think they would do that. NASCAR takes the winning car apart and inspects the crap out of it. If they would risk something like that on making a winner I would think they would do that for Dale Jr before they would some ugly kid from Navada.
I think Kyle will keep winning till he falls in love and gets married to some gold digger.
Quote from: hutch on June 02, 2008, 05:24:18 AM
I don't think they would do that. NASCAR takes the winning car apart and inspects the crap out of it. If they would risk something like that on making a winner I would think they would do that for Dale Jr before they would some ugly kid from Navada.
That's my point. Nascar does the
only inspecting of the cars. So how would anyone know if there was something going on?
How else can you explain how anything he drives in any series, out pull the whole field on re-starts in a unbelievable manor?
How can he always just about get a 3 to 5 second lead over the rest of the field in every series?
How else can he come from like 2 or 3 laps down in any series, and still win?
That stuff is super ridiculous. You never see that in any other motor sport. I know Richard Petty did simlular stuff back in the day, but even then, he didn't almost lap a whole field of cars in 20 or 30 laps like he was on the path to in the Nationwide race. :P
All I know, soon as he took the lead, I turned the race off.
I suppose if it was your favourite driver that was doing the winning and pulling away from the field it would be because he was just a better driver than the rest of them - right?
I thought so!
True, but I think I'd still be curious to know how the heck he is doing it like that.
Besides that, I didn't know there was any real Kyle Busch fans :D
At least no one brave enough to admit it :lol:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 02, 2008, 10:22:35 AM
True, but I think I'd still be curious to know how the heck he is doing it like that.
Besides that, I didn't know there was any real Kyle Busch fans :D
At least no one brave enough to admit it :lol:
Kyle Busch fan here... :coolgleamA:
He is a dork, and a jack ass, but he can drive the hell out of a car. well he is my number 2 driver. Denny Hamlin is my number 1 because he is from my hometown and a good driver as well.
Last year I was about to give up on NASCAR with Jimmie Johnson. I cant stand that guy.
Quote from: hutch on June 02, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 02, 2008, 10:22:35 AM
True, but I think I'd still be curious to know how the heck he is doing it like that.
Besides that, I didn't know there was any real Kyle Busch fans :D
At least no one brave enough to admit it :lol:
Kyle Busch fan here... :coolgleamA:
He is a dork, and a jack ass, but he can drive the hell out of a car. well he is my number 2 driver. Denny Hamlin is my number 1 because he is from my hometown and a good driver as well.
Last year I was about to give up on NASCAR with Jimmie Johnson. I cant stand that guy.
:slap:
DEFINITELY NOT a fan of kyle Busch (OR Kurt) and as much as I like Tony Stewart, I can't get past the fact that he drives a TOYOTA!!! :down: :down:
I know I have been beat on for hating the things before, Save your breath, I ain't changing my mind!
I'm REALLY glad it looks like Tony is leaving the yota camp this year. :yesnod:
Kyle and kurt are both REALLY GOOD race car drivers, The problem with BOTH of them is that they have the mentality that whatever I do to you is OK, but you BETTER NOT do it to me!
I also do truly believe that the 18 car is as legal as can be. I heard all kinds of crap like that when Ryan Newman reeled off 8 wins in 03! Cheating, illegal BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!
Toyota was given a LEG UP by Nascar when they got ready to build race cars for Cup. They were given cars that Nascar had confiscated from other teams. PLUS, ENGINES from other teams that had been confiscated! This was talked about during much of the coverage of their teams coming together.
Think they didn't learn a LOT From all those Childress, Evernham, Penske and Yates engines???? :eyes:
YEAH they had been running truck teams, and they sucked until the started building them in Bill Davis's shop. (Talk about a man with NO INTEGRITY AND NO SHAME!!!!!) Then all of a sudden they are the fastest trucks and now the truck series is nothing but a toyota benefit series!!!! IT sucks they USED to be fun to watch, but who the hell wants to watch 30 yotas racing for the win!!?!?!?! NOT I!!!!
BTW when davis started building yota trucks the DODGE trucks (Davis ran Dodge Cup cars at the time) were extremely strong and fresh from a manufacturers championship and a driver championship!
Now they are trying to do the same thing to Cup. ANOTHER Yota benefit series. :eek2: :eek2:
The big three are taking a big hit so TuRD (Toyota Racing Development) is taking advantage of the situation and is spending way more developing engines. I think the big three are trying to survive Bushinomics more that trying to upgrade their engine departments. They are leaving that up to the racing teams themselves. American factory backing is rather weak right now and probably will be for the next thousand years so we better get use to it :eek2:. :Twocents:
I'll agree that Kyle can drive the heck out of a car. I just wish he would have just a little more humility and not appear to be so darn arrogant. I guess his personality just rubs me a little raw that's all.
Hey i'm a Bill Elliot fan so I have no hope anymore anyway.
That wreck yesterday with Jr. What happened to that car to cost him 10 laps for repair, the quick glimpse I saw, it didn't look like he took a big hit at all. I was too busy cooking for the masses and missed quite a bit of the race.
v/r
Mike
Love him or hate him, Kyle Busch brings excitement to the race!
Myself, I think he's an butt hole, but it's fun to watch him race. He does things in a race car that I've only see Sr. do (I'm not in any way comparing him to Sr) and he makes no apologies for his actions. Yes, he is reckless at times, has no regard for anyone else and is gonna get his ass kicked some day, but for now, he's a winner and one of the big draws in the sport. Nascar really needs a guy like him, things were getting a little too politically correct and polite. Busch is going for the win, on the first lap. Points be damned! :)
He is winning with other owners than Gibbs in the Trucks and Nationwide. He is a winning machine right now. I dont think its a fix. He is a young guy that has no fear. Once he gets married and has kids his run will be over I bet.
I think Tony will be leaving Gibbs at the end of the year for another Chevy. :yesnod:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 03, 2008, 04:43:05 PM
I think Tony will be leaving Gibbs at the end of the year for another Chevy. :yesnod:
If they toss in a life time supply of Slimfast and pizza I bet he will take any job. Look at Kahne, he is like a jockey. He cant be more than 100lbs wet. I keep yelling at the TV for someone to give him a phone book to sit on so he can see over the wheel. His car does not need to work as hard as Smokes.
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nascar/racebuddy08_live/#
any of you guys look at this TNT Race buddy. Its pretty cool to keep in the background. I already miss Fox coverage. Not a big TNT fan.
Quote from: hutch on June 08, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nascar/racebuddy08_live/#
any of you guys look at this TNT Race buddy. Its pretty cool to keep in the background. I already miss Fox coverage. Not a big TNT fan.
Looks like Kyle went early. But it also looks like they might have him back in later.
As far as TNT and FOX, I could not wait until TNT took over. I can not stand that dip s#!t Waltrip. Plus, the guy is the biggest Toyota ass kiss around. I am so glad I do not have to hear his big mouth the rest of the season.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 08, 2008, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: hutch on June 08, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nascar/racebuddy08_live/#
any of you guys look at this TNT Race buddy. Its pretty cool to keep in the background. I already miss Fox coverage. Not a big TNT fan.
Looks like Kyle went early. But it also looks like they might have him back in later.
As far as TNT and FOX, I could not wait until TNT took over. I can not stand that dip s#!t Waltrip. Plus, the guy is the biggest Toyota ass kiss around. I am so glad I do not have to hear his big mouth the rest of the season.
LOL,,, Man I love ole DW. He is a good ole boy. Him and Hammond have a good time on that show.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 08, 2008, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: hutch on June 08, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
http://www.tnt.tv/sports/nascar/racebuddy08_live/#
any of you guys look at this TNT Race buddy. Its pretty cool to keep in the background. I already miss Fox coverage. Not a big TNT fan.
Looks like Kyle went early. But it also looks like they might have him back in later.
As far as TNT and FOX, I could not wait until TNT took over. I can not stand that dip s#!t Waltrip. Plus, the guy is the biggest Toyota ass kiss around. I am so glad I do not have to hear his big mouth the rest of the season.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: I can't stand listening to Waltrip or Larry Mac announce. Larry Mac is better as a pit announcer so I don't have to hear him as much :P
Kasey is on a roll!! I hope he wins quite a bit more. My man Smoke didn't have a good day:35th :P
Kasey is kicking ass lately. Nice to see him doing well again.
Ryan in 18th. :rotz:
That number 9 team is looking pretty strong right now. I think ole Kyle Busch and the 3 races, 3 days in 3 states was as stupid move. He needs to focus on the cup and now that I see him walking in and out of private jets with big boobed hos, I think his days are numbered if he keeps this up. Nothing like a hot woman and a big ego to bring a driver down.
Quote from: The70RT on May 25, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: The70RT on May 17, 2008, 10:08:52 PM
We have a million dollar winner! GO KASEY :boogie: The bottom pic is for the yodas..... Sorry Kyle :'(
Now a 600 winner :cheers: Sorry Tony :nana:
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
Quote from: hutch on June 08, 2008, 07:06:56 PM
and now that I see him walking in and out of private jets with big boobed hos
And it is all because he is a NASCAR driver.
If he worked at Hardees his right hand would be his girl.
Man that was cool :2thumbs:
And even after the mess up in the pits, Casey pulled a "kyle busch" and came from last to first!
Quote from: raybeez on June 08, 2008, 11:22:16 PM
Man that was cool :2thumbs:
And even after the mess up in the pits, Casey pulled a "kyle busch" and came from last to first!
he left them in the dust when it hit the 20 laps left mark. I was thinking Dale Jr had a shot then Kahne turned on the after burner and left them in the dust.
Poor ole Jr. Chebbys are sucking ass this year.
Whelp, Petty Enterprizes for the most part is no more. But they did Manage to re-sign Bobby LaBounty for the next 4 years :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-pettysale&prov=ap&type=lgns
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 11, 2008, 06:07:55 PM
Whelp, Petty Enterprizes for the most part is no more. But they did Manage to re-sign Bobby LaBounty for the next 4 years :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-pettysale&prov=ap&type=lgns
wow, I did not see that coming. They were still running the shop in the back of his Dads old house so I guess they needed to step up a bit. Richard will aways be the king and I dont see kyle ever being anything more than a talking head for the sport.
I agree with you hutch. But I do think Kyle make a good commentator.
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 11, 2008, 09:39:48 PM
I agree with you hutch. But I do think Kyle make a good commentator.
Yep, he is a good commentator, thats why I liked DW, its always good to have someone calling the race who knows the sport frist hand. I like Mike Joy, but he does not know the details like a driver does.
DW is an aweful commentator , toyota bias all the way !!!!
I guess TNT is starting to grow on me. I do like that race buddy and they still have larry mcrenolds and some of the other guys I like.
anyone catch that nation wide race last night? that was a pretty good race. For us Gibbs fans. Im sure some loved seeing ole ugly 18 hitting the wall. Im starting to out grow him if keeps his focus on trucks and nationwide. the bow needs to buckel down and keep his head in the sprint cup game or he is going to piss it away. he damn hear got his but kicked in the garage after that truck race.
Quote from: hutch on June 15, 2008, 12:51:36 PM
I guess TNT is starting to grow on me. I do like that race buddy and they still have larry mcrenolds and some of the other guys I like.
anyone catch that nation wide race last night? that was a pretty good race. For us Gibbs fans. Im sure some loved seeing ole ugly 18 hitting the wall. Im starting to out grow him if keeps his focus on trucks and nationwide. the bow needs to buckel down and keep his head in the sprint cup game or he is going to piss it away. he damn hear got his but kicked in the garage after that truck race.
Larry McReynolds fan (me) :idiot: (you)
I can't stand him :eek2:
Me and my son were jumping for joy when Pee Wee Herman couldn't control his car and hit the wall :smilielol:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on June 15, 2008, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: hutch on June 15, 2008, 12:51:36 PM
I guess TNT is starting to grow on me. I do like that race buddy and they still have larry mcrenolds and some of the other guys I like.
anyone catch that nation wide race last night? that was a pretty good race. For us Gibbs fans. Im sure some loved seeing ole ugly 18 hitting the wall. Im starting to out grow him if keeps his focus on trucks and nationwide. the bow needs to buckel down and keep his head in the sprint cup game or he is going to piss it away. he damn hear got his but kicked in the garage after that truck race.
Larry McReynolds fan (me) :idiot: (you)
I can't stand him :eek2:
Me and my son were jumping for joy when Pee Wee Herman couldn't control his car and hit the wall :smilielol:
damnit, dont anyone like the same people as me.
I feel mighty small.. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
how small might you ask.
here is a photo I have attached, [photo].[/photo] now thats small..
:smilielol:
Hornaday got punted by Busch. Hornaday pretty much told the media how Busch was. Could get interesting down the road. :scratchchin:
And Jr. got it done. I am happy for the guy.
Another terrific run for Kasey. That guy is kicking ass lately. Great to see that team doing well.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 15, 2008, 04:36:41 PM
And Jr. got it done. I am happy for the guy.
Another terrific run for Kasey. That guy is kicking ass lately. Great to see that team doing well.
if your not first your last :smilielol: but 2nd is ok
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 15, 2008, 04:36:41 PM
And Jr. got it done. I am happy for the guy.
Yup! We were happy!! :2thumbs:
Calling all Kyle Busch haters.... Roll call.
:cheers:
Quote from: hutch on June 23, 2008, 04:18:56 PM
Calling all Kyle Busch haters.... Roll call.
:cheers:
i was screaming at the tv for him to blow up :smilielol: :smilielol: :eek2:
I don't really cheer for anyone to win in NASCAR, I usually root for certain guys to wreck. Since Kyle Busch seems to be doing so well and so many people dislike him and the fact that he drives a Toyota (and it's not because I have a Toyota [never had one]) - I've started to cheer for him.
Glad he won again this past Sunday. :lol:
I guess only 2 like kyle busch.................. I wouldn't put one of his stickers on your charger though :nana:
Well I new my driver would be leaving Dodge at the end of the year. And rumors circulated for months he would go were Stewart would go since they are close friends. This just was on Jayski.
UPDATE: supposedly the deal is done, earlier Friday, a source close to the situation said that Chevrolet has agreed to terms with Joe Gibbs Racing to buy Tony Stewart out of his contract with the #20-Toyota Sprint Cup racing team. Stewart will indeed be making the move to Haas CNC Racing, a rumor that has been circulating for months. Supposedly Stewart's new sponsor will be Office Depot and terms have been finalized regarding the impending sponsorship. In addition, Stewart will be joined by current #12 Penske Racing driver Ryan Newman, who would be sponsored by Burger King. No word yet on what car numbers the drivers will run and an announcement could come as early as next week at the Daytona International Speedway.( Captain Thunder)(6-27-2008)
Funny,Tuesday, when the #29 car was at the shell station across from the shop last week, the parade car truck driver said newman was rumored to be going to that team, which is RCR right. Who knows?? Why he would even say that without fear of losing his job is beyond me.
v/r
Mike
Well at least todays winner is a Busch that drives a Dodge.
A good strategy by Kurt and his crew paid off.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 29, 2008, 04:37:34 PM
Well at least todays winner is a Busch that drives a Dodge.
A good strategy by Kurt and his crew paid off.
:2thumbs:
Quote from: The70RT on June 29, 2008, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 29, 2008, 04:37:34 PM
Well at least todays winner is a Busch that drives a Dodge.
A good strategy by Kurt and his crew paid off.
:2thumbs:
And at least I got to see Jr knocked out trying to get some gas. LOL :smilielol: :smilielol:
That poor kid has no luck at all.
If the rumor is true, at least Tony will be in an American car. Guess I better hold off on buying any Home Depot/Tony Stewart stuff and wait for the Office Depot stuff. :icon_smile_big: I wonder if he will try to take Greg with him. Hope so. Those two are a good combo.
Let the Daytona good times roll. This is one of my fav tracks in NASCAR this weekend. Should be good to see some good ole drafting.
Im the #11 fan on the left. That was back in Jan at the start of this season. One of the best times of my life. Great racing.
(http://www.cqbarms.com/photos/albums/userpics/P2160111.JPG)
(http://www.cqbarms.com/photos/albums/userpics/P2160117.JPG)
Dont you wish you could work on your car like this.
(http://www.cqbarms.com/photos/albums/userpics/P2160108.JPG)
And for you Jr fans. I missed 1/2 the race because of them bad boys. :cheers:
(http://www.cqbarms.com/photos/albums/userpics/P2170172.JPG)
I never saw any of the race this past weekend but just heard that Michael Waltrip came in 2nd. :o
Quote from: Shakey on July 02, 2008, 12:05:46 PM
I never saw any of the race this past weekend but just heard that Michael Waltrip came in 2nd. :o
By default. He stayed out while the top 15 came in. Then came the rain and they never went back green.
Quote from: The70RT on July 02, 2008, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: Shakey on July 02, 2008, 12:05:46 PM
I never saw any of the race this past weekend but just heard that Michael Waltrip came in 2nd. :o
By default. He stayed out while the top 15 came in. Then came the rain and they never went back green.
Of course, I shoulda known - :lol:
Still money in the bank though!
I was glad for Mike on that one. He needed a good finish.
He hasn't seen the top 10 or 20 for that matter in a long time.
Take it any way You can get it.
I've got the race on right now and these guys talking are driving me nuts.
Bill Weber, Larry Mac, Kyle Petty - :blahblah:
So I fall asleep on the couch and wake up as I hear "Gordon is spinning down the frontstretch" and then I see the # 18 win and the crowd goes wild! :lol:
Yup, just got home from the races and missed everything but Kyle taking a bow.
man that was a great race. To see Kyle Busch fight his way from last to first is great. That Kid can drive :nana:
All them stupid pop up comercials were driving me nuts. Got to love ole gordon getting spit out of the pack like that and tossed into the infield. :smilielol: Man I love the seaon Hendrick racing is having this year.
Quote from: hutch on July 06, 2008, 06:04:52 AM
All them stupid pop up comercials were driving me nuts.
I was thinking the same thing. But they were trying to do it like the Indy 500 and have a split screen. That way we saw more of the race.
And Pee Wee Herman wins another race. :eek2: He sure brought the field up to speed for that last restart real slooooooow though. I don't even know why they try to do the green, white, checkered on the restrictor plate tracks. They always have wrecks on the green flag lap anyways. ::)
it was an ok race i was cheering on kasey #9 finding for third then jr ass got loose ran up the track and flaten his front fender causing a rub..i couldnt believe he held on till that caution then got 4 new tires and haul'd ass from 24 to 7 in just a few short laps.....
too bad for jr :hah: :hah:#88
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 06, 2008, 09:29:02 AM
Quote from: hutch on July 06, 2008, 06:04:52 AM
All them stupid pop up comercials were driving me nuts.
I was thinking the same thing. But they were trying to do it like the Indy 500 and have a split screen. That way we saw more of the race.
In talking with my buddy about it today, he said he never has the sound on the TV, he keeps the radio playing the MRN broadcast. turned up loud with the TV on and gets better coverage. Might try that next week. They do cover more race time than Fox did. I just want to know whats going on all around the track.
Not that it wasn't expected, but it's official now. Tony Stewart will be driving for his own team (Stewart-Haas) next year.
I for one am glad to see Smoke back in a domestic brand (even if its Chebby). Still, he's not gonna win any races for a year or two (and let's hope his team doesnt "Waltrip").
Discuss.
I think Smoke has a better chance than most coming out strong his first year. He already has a few teams in the smaller dirt track divisions so he has learned a few things about being an owner. He also already has the big hurdle of a major sponsor for his car. He also is a past champion so he should be alright for the first 6 races next year as far as qualifying goes(past champions provisional). What I really can't wait to see is how he races PeeWee Herman when he isn't his teamate. :D
Quote from: Ponch ® on July 10, 2008, 03:11:43 PM
Not that it wasn't expected, but it's official now. Tony Stewart will be driving for his own team (Stewart-Haas) next year.
I for one am glad to see Smoke back in a domestic brand (even if its Chebby). Still, he's not gonna win any races for a year or two (and let's hope his team doesnt "Waltrip").
Discuss.
GM NEVER wanted to lose Smoke as a spokesman. I don't think he will go winless for the whole year either! I never got the sense he liked the whole yoyo deal at all. I don't think he was ever happy with that.
His teams he owns are all very successful and they WIN. Don't think this venture will be ANY different.
I SERIOUSLY doubt he will "Waltrip" The biggest difference is that Tony is about 10 times the driver that Mikey is.
Quote from: pettyfan43 on July 10, 2008, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on July 10, 2008, 03:11:43 PM
GM NEVER wanted to lose Smoke as a spokesman. I don't think he will go winless for the whole year either! I never got the sense he liked the whole yoyo deal at all. I don't think he was ever happy with that.
His teams he owns are all very successful and they WIN. Don't think this venture will be ANY different.
I SERIOUSLY doubt he will "Waltrip" The biggest difference is that Tony is about 10 times the driver that Mikey is.
Your right that GM did not want to lose him. They are the ones who paid Gibbs off for the rest of his contract. I am sure it was a decent amount of cash. As soon as Gibbs signed with Toyota rumors flew right away Stewart was leaving.
I think its a great deal for Gibbs to dump Tony. Now they can look at pulling Lagono up from Nationwide and have 3 young guns rolling for him. Gibbs racing is strong as hell. And Tony pulling in a no winning stumb like Newman is a joke. that kid should turn in his keys and give someone else a chance.
For me, its not about the cars anymore. Its more about the drivers. I stopped getting excited about the cars in the early 90's when they all started moveing away from the stock body and the auto makers stopped putting money in racing like they did in the old days. I think Joe Gibbs is a great leader and has a solid team right now.
Quote from: hutch on July 10, 2008, 07:01:43 PM
I think its a great deal for Gibbs to dump Tony. Now they can look at pulling Lagono up from Nationwide and have 3 young guns rolling for him. Gibbs racing is strong as hell. And Tony pulling in a no winning stumb like Newman is a joke. that kid should turn in his keys and give someone else a chance.
For me, its not about the cars anymore. Its more about the drivers. I stopped getting excited about the cars in the early 90's when they all started moveing away from the stock body and the auto makers stopped putting money in racing like they did in the old days. I think Joe Gibbs is a great leader and has a solid team right now.
If you actually watch "for the drivers" you should know that the two guys you are running down are two of the absolute DRIVERS in the series today. Sure Kyle Busch is a good driver, but he is an absolute WHINER that thinks his crap doesn't stink!!! If HE takes somebody out, well that's just racing. Let someone take HIM out and he should have the ability to wreck them EVERY WEEK.
He's a whiny little sh!*head and toyota deserves his type, they BOTH suck.
well that little poop head can bring a car from the end with 40 cars in front of him all the way to the front in less than 60 laps and win, time and time again. Sure he is ugly and an ass, but the kid is the best driver on the track today. Denny is holding his own as well and this Joey Lagono kid Gibbs has is a pistol of a driver in the Nationwide races and I think he is going to hold his own when they pull him up.
If take a car from the 40th slot to the front in less than 60 laps is so easy why is Newman not bring his up at least 10 slots? That boy got lucky in a draft lineup in daytona and was pushed that last 1/4 mile to win. Kyle led most of that race and had a great last lap but came up short on the draft.
The kid can drive. he might win the cup this year. And I dont see tony or newman doing anything other than sucking down cheese burgers and burning up gas.
Look, it happens every year or two. Somebody finds something in their setup of the car, and goes on a tear winning races. Newman won 8 in 93 in THEIR first year with Dodge.
A few years ago Matt Kenseth won 6 or 7. IT happens and EVERY time it does, people go around screaming about how Such & Such driver is the best driver. You ever notice that Gordon had a few years where he won a BUNCH of races. Yeah I know he got lucky. You can't TELL me that Busch is a better driver than Stewart. Newman Gordon (MAN that hurts to say) or even Jimmy Johnson ( I think I just threw up in my mouth a little!)
Have you noticed that the Gibbs yotas are the ONLY yotas that are even consistently competitive?
Whereas Evernham AND Penske Dodges have won races. I LOVE how busch is the greatest driver for winning races, and Newman won the Daytona 500 and he "got lucky". Kyle busch couldn't win ANYWHERE besides bristol before this year.
His high tide WILL drop, he is just on a roll right now. The best on the track, NO!
How long have you been paying attention to the sport anyway? (just curious)
so much for qualifying damn rain :brickwall:
Quote from: pettyfan43 on July 10, 2008, 10:20:05 PM
Look, it happens every year or two. Somebody finds something in their setup of the car, and goes on a tear winning races. Newman won 8 in 93 in THEIR first year with Dodge.
A few years ago Matt Kenseth won 6 or 7. IT happens and EVERY time it does, people go around screaming about how Such & Such driver is the best driver. You ever notice that Gordon had a few years where he won a BUNCH of races. Yeah I know he got lucky. You can't TELL me that Busch is a better driver than Stewart. Newman Gordon (MAN that hurts to say) or even Jimmy Johnson ( I think I just threw up in my mouth a little!)
Have you noticed that the Gibbs yotas are the ONLY yotas that are even consistently competitive?
Whereas Evernham AND Penske Dodges have won races. I LOVE how busch is the greatest driver for winning races, and Newman won the Daytona 500 and he "got lucky". Kyle busch couldn't win ANYWHERE besides bristol before this year.
His high tide WILL drop, he is just on a roll right now. The best on the track, NO!
How long have you been paying attention to the sport anyway? (just curious)
Well he must be getting lucky in his setups with craftsman and nationwide because he drives the hell out of them as well.
I know ever once in a while the setup gets sweat but the kid can drive. Let time play it out.
Gibbs didn't dump Tony....it was the other way around. I agree Kyle is just hitting the setup's first with the new car. Best driver.... :smilielol: What about Johnsons domination the last couple of years???...yeah he had them pretty much covered. Kasey won 6 two years ago and last year didn't win any. So it goes to say don't kiss the prince till he is one. The ony cup Kyle needs is a nut cup if he keeps showing his ass.....no matter who you are the wall feels the same. :Twocents:
Quote from: The70RT on July 11, 2008, 09:26:36 AM
Gibbs didn't dump Tony....it was the other way around. I agree Kyle is just hitting the setup's first with the new car. Best driver.... :smilielol: What about Johnsons domination the last couple of years???...yeah he had them pretty much covered. Kasey won 6 two years ago and last year didn't win any. So it goes to say don't kiss the prince till he is one. The ony cup Kyle needs is a nut cup if he keeps showing his ass.....no matter who you are the wall feels the same. :Twocents:
I think what happens is people like Smoke, Johnson and Gordon start to move away from being a driver and start selling suger water or tools or worry more about that stupid radio show Tony has more and than racing. And getting married and having kids starts to change the size of your nuts when you get behind the wheel for some people. I like to see a driver drive in more than just the cup races. when is the last time gordon ran in a nationwide race or a truck race? Why does he not drive in the truck races do you ask? because he feels he does not need to take the risk to prove himself. He is a franchize now for Pisspee suger water and has too much to lose if he gets hurt or gets beat by a bunch of rookys. Its not about racing for him anymore its about the money. I say give it to the young guns that want to get behind a wheel every night. Thats racing. Look at Denny Hamlin driving in local short tracks during the weekdays on top of running tucks and nationwide. That boy loves racing and he gets my respect for it.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 10, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
Your right that GM did not want to lose him. They are the ones who paid Gibbs off for the rest of his contract. I am sure it was a decent amount of cash. As soon as Gibbs signed with Toyota rumors flew right away Stewart was leaving.
" Stewart said GM was a variable in his decision, but added the manufacturer paid nothing to help get the team despite reports Chevrolet bought out the final year of his deal at JGR.
"GM did not give us money to do this," Stewart said.
Nobody had to."
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/news/story?id=3482073
Quote from: hutch on July 06, 2008, 08:14:25 PM
In talking with my buddy about it today, he said he never has the sound on the TV, he keeps the radio playing the MRN broadcast. turned up loud with the TV on and gets better coverage. Might try that next week. They do cover more race time than Fox did. I just want to know whats going on all around the track.
that is really the way to go on watching the races. I hate to say it, but give me Darrell Waltrip anyday over Rusty Wallace and Wally D. as far as the announcing goes.
this past daytona race was the WORST tv I have watched in a long time.
it sounded like Wally D. was getting off everytime somebody wrecked. "oh, oh oh!!"
:flush: :puke: :puke: :puke:
hmmmm,,,, did I see some ugly kid out drive Jimmie Johnson on the last restart? :scratchchin:
:scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
odd,,,,
Looked like Jimmie had the stronger "faster" car,,,, hmmmmm, how could that of happend,,,,, very odd.. :scratchchin:
I will tell ya how!
THAT BOY CAN DRIVE! :nana:
And dear God someone shoot Larry Mc for doing that dumb ass magic trick crap when I am trying to watch a race.
And dear God someone shoot Larry Mc for doing that dumb ass magic trick crap when I am trying to watch a race.
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:iagree:
im glad TNT is done ........no many damn commercials....
why on earth do they let him do that magic crap? Do they think we are burnt out on the race and need a break? Its one thing to hit us with commercials because they need to pay for the show, but its 100% rude for them to inject some 3rd grade magic act in the middle of the one sport I wait all week to see. I open they lose their contract. :Twocents:
I could care less what Larry Mac does. If it amuses some kids watching, great. I use the time to get a beverage or a snack or use the restroom.
As far as PeeWee being better than other drivers, I will hold my judgement until after he hits the wall hard sometime and has to spend a few races out of the car. I beleive you mentioned that other drivers lose their drive after they get married and what not. The thing about Johnson, Gordon and Stewart is that they all have hit the walls hard. Every driver drives fearless when they just get here. Look at some of the moves these kids make out there. They are incredible when they work. The older you get you don't think about how great it will be when you make the move. You start wondering what will happen if it doesn't. Gordon used to be a cocky SOB behind the wheel. I remember the pass he made on Rusty at Daytona years ago. Rusty lifted to let him in because Gordon was gonna make the pass or drive right through a slower car. And I don't mean a car doing 2 mph less. This was a car coming up to speed and was probably doing about 120 mph to Gordons 200 mph. He didn't care than. He has hit the wall a few times since then. Tony was out for a bit last year with his shoulder. I don't think Johnson has missed any races, but he has hit the wall pretty hard. Also, these three drivers have all won Championships and are big picture drivers now. If Kyle wins a Championship, he will get that too. You can't win it if you ain't in it.
Kyle wants to drive all the series. That's great. I doubt he will be doing that next year. I don't think Gibbs will chance losing their top driver next year to injuries and I doubt Kyle will want to do them all either, especially if he loses the Cup Championship. I don't know anything about Kyle's contract, but if Gibbs can control the number of races he runs next year I think they will limit it to Nationwide and in their cars only.
Gen01, I think you are right, crashing at 180 is a big big factor. thats part of what I was saying that in the old days the cars where king, now its more of the drivers as to what makes the show. Lots of stuff plays into the psyc of the drivers and getting hurt is one of them. Thats why I love watching the young bucks drive. They have no fear and nothing holding them back. Gordon back in the early 90s was unstopable and on fire. I know kyle is a dumb ass kid and I dont think I would ever want him in my back yard eating BBQ but I sure love the show he puts on.
The thing wit me is I love Joe Gibbs because I am a life long Redskins fan and I think Joe Gibbs runs a killer team on and off the field. But right now he has 3 young guns that can put on a hell of a show.
Dale JRs 88 Nationwide driver 'ski' is another one thats going to rule the track in another year or so. That kid is a hell of a driver.
I agree
Every time I get hurt doing something, I quit doing it.
A few head on's into the wall and these Guy's may not take so many chances.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/bg/07/23/engine.rule.amendment/index.html
for all the Busch/Toyota haters. Looks like NASCAR is going to reduce Horse Power on Toyota blocks for nationwide.
I'm the last one to be complaining about Yota's being restricted but where was this concern last year when Hendrick Chebbees were dominating?
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on July 24, 2008, 11:48:59 AM
I'm the last one to be complaining about Yota's being restricted but where was this concern last year when Hendrick Chebbees were dominating?
well back when racing was racing, teams did what they could to improve horse power. Now its all about whats "fair". I wait for the day when stock car racing returns.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on July 24, 2008, 11:48:59 AM
I'm the last one to be complaining about Yota's being restricted but where was this concern last year when Hendrick Chebbees were dominating?
they werent dominating because they had more horsepower per say, they dominated because they had more money to get both types of cars ready at the same time.
oh, I was not a hendrick fan last year (I am this year though) :2thumbs:
Well that sucked....
why do they dimond cut the track if it eats tires and brings our a yellow every 10 laps. Indy cars dont have to deal with that do they?
That had to be the most exciting race I have ever watched. ::) Goodyear really screwed the pooch on this one. :RantExplode:
heres some pics from the brick yard
heres some more
and 1 more cant wait for michigan in august :2thumbs:
My report from the Hickyard Snore Hundred
1) 10 lap heat races
2) empty seats
3) AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH Goodyear and Napcar
4) Scalpers complaining "I'll Take anything"
5) Leaving at lap 80, and getting home to watch the rest of the debacle by lap 84
If I had paid for that, I would be pissed.
I use to love nascar just like pro wrestling but anymore to me they are the same you know pretty much know out of some of the drivers who will win. I dont even like watching it anymore its boring.
I dont think Nascar should even entertain the idea of coming back to that track. Lots of great short tracks that gave up a second race or racing all together so Nascar could expand its reach into the Yankee relm. I say bring back Rockingham ! Bring it back home.
I love NASCAR, but like other people, it has left stock car racing. That is why i would just as quick watch dirt track as I would Nascar. :-\
:flame: :flame: i also watched it, my dad went to it, won his ticket from the radio, anyway, i dont blame the track, i blame nascar and especially goodyear. The track was diamond cut at nascars request back in 2004 right after the 400 in order to help the stock cars get more grip out of the tires and make for a better race, it has worked to a degree up until now. The problem is that the COT is 400 lbs heavier, taller, more hp and by using the same tire from previous years without extensive testing, created the situation we had yesterday. Yes it was junk, i hated that race, worse ive ever seen. However, i dont blame Tony George or IMS, I mainly blame goodyear, they have known for 4 years that this track was diamond cut and what type of wear it had on the old car. They also have seen this at other places such as Alanta and Vegas earlier this year, that the new car is alot harder on tires, this should have been fixed/addressed months ago. and nasr is at fault by only allowing 3 drivers to partake in the one single day tire test conducts back in april of this year, where tempatures are 20-40 degrees cooler, but yet according to nascar, it was an issue then, why wasnt goodyear concerned and why didnt they fixed the tire then?? I think goodyear should refund not only the fans, but also the money the teams spent on tires through out the whole weekend, at 1700 bucks a set, 10 or more sets a day times three days, your talking close to 80k dollars spent on junk tires, boo on goodyear. :eek2: :eek2: :brickwall:
I am glad that nobody is blaming IMS.
Say what you want about TG, but, he has spent money on the place that his grandfather never would have.
He never ask for tax concessions from local government, pays for the local and state police security. He's taken a paved cow pasture and turned it into a world class facility
He booked in CDB for the mornings entertainment and as usual Charlie was rockin'. Sure he was trying to sell tix. Somebody had to do something.
If Nascar and Goodyear want to salvage this, they had bettered reach deep in their own pockets and give something back to the fans that got hosed yesterday.
The France's might be rich and can act like dictators in Daytona Beach, but they are just another sanctioning body here.
Can you say ALMS? The new bike race will play to a sellout.
The only sellout yesterday was Nascar and Goodyear. They sold out you fans to line their own Pockets.
Send a message. Boycott that turkey product at Pocono. Less than half full stands will junk that POS COT within 2 races.
"It's here deal with it" is just another way of saying "we know it sucks"
I was a fan of Nascar until it was turned into a spec series a decade ago. There was better racing at the Whiteland go kart track on saturday night
Quote from: dukeboy_318 on July 28, 2008, 02:22:22 PM
:flame: :flame: i also watched it, my dad went to it, won his ticket from the radio, anyway, i dont blame the track, i blame nascar and especially goodyear. The track was diamond cut at nascars request back in 2004 right after the 400 in order to help the stock cars get more grip out of the tires and make for a better race, it has worked to a degree up until now. The problem is that the COT is 400 lbs heavier, taller, more hp and by using the same tire from previous years without extensive testing, created the situation we had yesterday. Yes it was junk, i hated that race, worse ive ever seen. However, i dont blame Tony George or IMS, I mainly blame goodyear, they have known for 4 years that this track was diamond cut and what type of wear it had on the old car. They also have seen this at other places such as Alanta and Vegas earlier this year, that the new car is alot harder on tires, this should have been fixed/addressed months ago. and nasr is at fault by only allowing 3 drivers to partake in the one single day tire test conducts back in april of this year, where tempatures are 20-40 degrees cooler, but yet according to nascar, it was an issue then, why wasnt goodyear concerned and why didnt they fixed the tire then?? I think goodyear should refund not only the fans, but also the money the teams spent on tires through out the whole weekend, at 1700 bucks a set, 10 or more sets a day times three days, your talking close to 80k dollars spent on junk tires, boo on goodyear. :eek2: :eek2: :brickwall:
I HATE THE DAMN CAR OF TOMORROW!!! Lets race Daytonas and 500s again!!!
That would be AWESOME!!
If I traveled to see that race I would have been pissed too.
Quote from: The70RT on July 28, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
If I traveled to see that race I would have been pissed too.
my buddy who owns a salvage yard in kansas city went, he got back this afternoon and was so pissed off
was it just me or did everybody hear the praises the owners and crew chiefs were giving NASCAR and good year for doing such a good job?
Wow, they have really been P-whipped into little robots havent they
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 29, 2008, 12:38:30 AM
was it just me or did everybody hear the praises the owners and crew chiefs were giving NASCAR and good year for doing such a good job?
Wow, they have really been P-whipped into little robots havent they
They say that because no one got hurt. The focus on safty more now than ever and when they get into a spot like this and all the boys come out of it ok, this is the exact pat on the back they pull out of the dust bin.
How about the days in daytona when the track did not even have a wall! Google Lee Petty going over the wall, its what ended his racing profession. It was as if he drove off a 10 story building at 130mph and he lived.
I only have one question, What the hell is Brett Bodine gonna do with the lap leader bonus for all those laps he led in the pace car?!?!?!?!??!!??!
What a RIDICULOUS FARCE that was, I was asleep by lap 30!
Quote from: hutch on July 29, 2008, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 29, 2008, 12:38:30 AM
was it just me or did everybody hear the praises the owners and crew chiefs were giving NASCAR and good year for doing such a good job?
Wow, they have really been P-whipped into little robots havent they
They say that because no one got hurt. The focus on safty more now than ever and when they get into a spot like this and all the boys come out of it ok, this is the exact pat on the back they pull out of the dust bin.
True, nobody got hurt, and thats a good thing. But NASCAR & Goodyear's job was to know things like this, with the COT they should have just about held 75 lap tests at every track with 10-15 teams just to find out what a heavier car did to the tires.
you know I used to watch just about every race on TV, and would get mad if a missed one... now if I miss one I usually find out that I didnt miss anything... ah the good ole days are really gone
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 30, 2008, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: hutch on July 29, 2008, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 29, 2008, 12:38:30 AM
was it just me or did everybody hear the praises the owners and crew chiefs were giving NASCAR and good year for doing such a good job?
Wow, they have really been P-whipped into little robots havent they
They say that because no one got hurt. The focus on safty more now than ever and when they get into a spot like this and all the boys come out of it ok, this is the exact pat on the back they pull out of the dust bin.
True, nobody got hurt, and thats a good thing. But NASCAR & Goodyear's job was to know things like this, with the COT they should have just about held 75 lap tests at every track with 10-15 teams just to find out what a heavier car did to the tires.
you know I used to watch just about every race on TV, and would get mad if a missed one... now if I miss one I usually find out that I didnt miss anything... ah the good ole days are really gone
I use to have to watch everyone also. Anymore if I miss it so what?
Quote from: pettyfan43 on July 29, 2008, 09:37:09 PM
I only have one question, What the hell is Brett Bodine gonna do with the lap leader bonus for all those laps he led in the pace car?!?!?!?!??!!??!
What a RIDICULOUS FARCE that was, I was asleep by lap 30!
:haha:
What a joke yesterday in the nationwide series. Let them race in the rain at 50 mph. No one could see to race :rotz: Maybe the other race is better today.
Congrats to Carl Edwards. I think I have a new favorite driver!!!!!
And that little display is why I can't STAND Kyle Busch, AKA Screech! He's a little punk and I really can't say that little twit wants to jump on Carl Edwards!!!
Carl will wad his jaybird @$$ and throw him in a dumpster!!!
I think Kyle is starting to find out "What comes around, goes around". He's upset with Carl for doing the bump and run at Bristol? :shruggy: He says this while he is taking guys out in the truck series when he isn't even running for a Championship there. What a jacka#$. I bet if Mike Skinner took him out in a Cup race he would be pretty upset.
I LOVE the fact that Carl said Oh Yeah, I ran into him. I looked at his rear bumper and said , would he do that to me? and he would and he has.
Gotta love honesty!
I like Carl. He said it like it is. Kyle drives like an a$% and people are not going to cut him a break as they head down the stretch. The guys he's gotta watch are those guys that he has pissed on that did not make the chase. They will cut him NO SLACK in the last 10 races. :D
Man you live by the sword you die by the sword.
Carl said if He had it to do again. He would probably hit Him harder. :lol:
I'm glad Carl beat Kyle and in the fashion it was done. I'm also glad he did not apologize(finally showing a little aggression), why would he, that was clean racing as far as i'm concerned. Bump and run, ain't nothing wrong with that. Kyle would have made his car 3 lanes wide to keep the lead with an inferior car at that point. I'm not saying he should just move over and let the other car by but I do feel what Carl did was fine and to me is exactly the same as blocking with a slower car, if that makes sense.
I would have felt the same way no matter what the 2 cars were in front be it Kyle beating Carl the same way(and you know he would have) Tony, Denny, whomever.
My man Jr, what was he thinking at the start :brickwall:
Don't know that he would have had a car anyway to compete, if he would have gotten the lap back, he just always seemed to flutter 17th/18th and couldn't pass the cars that would enable him to get the lucky dog so. He's still 3rd and most likely in the post season, but those fellas are going to have to be something to catch Kyle or Carl, they are just having a career year.
Then of course there is my all time driver Bill Elliot :rotz:
I think it's time for him to hang it up.
So what's Montoya's deal anyway, if he can hang that long with those guys and they can't get around him, no reason he shouldn't be up there, right?? I think it is just inexperience/lack of skill on his part, kind of like as long as someone is leading the way then he knows what to do, but can't seem to figure it out on his own, IMO.
Quote from: General_01 on August 23, 2008, 11:00:24 PM
I think Kyle is starting to find out "What comes around, goes around". He's upset with Carl for doing the bump and run at Bristol? :shruggy: He says this while he is taking guys out in the truck series when he isn't even running for a Championship there. What a jacka#$. I bet if Mike Skinner took him out in a Cup race he would be pretty upset.
man yeah, if I was one of those truck guys, I'd be beggin somebody to let me in a cup car for that one purpose.
How about that crowd noise when carl turned "Screech" around!!! :2thumbs:
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 24, 2008, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: General_01 on August 23, 2008, 11:00:24 PM
I think Kyle is starting to find out "What comes around, goes around". He's upset with Carl for doing the bump and run at Bristol? :shruggy: He says this while he is taking guys out in the truck series when he isn't even running for a Championship there. What a jacka#$. I bet if Mike Skinner took him out in a Cup race he would be pretty upset.
man yeah, if I was one of those truck guys, I'd be beggin somebody to let me in a cup car for that one purpose.
How about that crowd noise when carl turned "Screech" around!!! :2thumbs:
Oh yeah the crowd let you know how they felt. I think most are tired of Kyle. I had the race on and didn't pay much attention till the end. I like Carl because he is a pretty fair guy and is liked by everyone........he did get mentered by Mark.
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 24, 2008, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: General_01 on August 23, 2008, 11:00:24 PM
I think Kyle is starting to find out "What comes around, goes around". He's upset with Carl for doing the bump and run at Bristol? :shruggy: He says this while he is taking guys out in the truck series when he isn't even running for a Championship there. What a jacka#$. I bet if Mike Skinner took him out in a Cup race he would be pretty upset.
How about that crowd noise when carl turned "Screech" around!!! :2thumbs:
That was great. Still shows that Kyle is hated by most NASCAR fans. The kid can drive, but is he a dick.
Im a KB fan and I love it. NASCAR needs this kind of drama. It's great for the sport and its great for our NASCAR thread! LOL....
Two more weeks till Richmond and I cant wait.
:2thumbs:
will be at California next weekend hoping kasey and the 9 group get out of the crap there in two 40th place finishes in the last two races dropped him from 7th to 14th damn
Three weeks in a row now, my driver Dave Blaney is having a good
run and BAM, some jackass takes him out!
:brickwall:
He has the worst luck ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSjUaZllVQ
two more weeks till Richmond.
here is the t-shirt I got for the sprint race.
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?showBleed=false&ProductNo=84361702&colorNo=26&pr=F
I'm waiting to see Mikey and Clint go at each other on the track. :smilielol:
Quote from: General_01 on August 26, 2008, 10:32:44 PM
I'm waiting to see Mikey and Clint go at each other on the track. :smilielol:
It will be Clint passing mikey as usual
Yea, but after last weeks comment, Mikey might just take a right into Clint as he goes by. We will see. :popcrn:
Quote from: General_01 on August 26, 2008, 10:58:23 PM
Yea, but after last weeks comment, Mikey might just take a right into Clint as he goes by. We will see. :popcrn:
We will see but he is 30th in points and if he has a bad finish this week it may put him in la la land
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I loved Jr's comment when they asked him about the incident with Kyle. "....things like that happen."
Hope Kyle wasn't too mad.
And Mikey played nice with Bowyer, so no fireworks there.
That was a good race.
Did You see Tony getting out of his car after the race?
He was pissed.
I think thats 39 or 40 races since his last win.
No more factory money from Mopar for the truck series next year. They were only sponsoring one team this year anyways but a person can't but wonder if Nationwide's next. :shruggy: Years ago they dominated the truck series.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 07, 2008, 05:03:35 PM
That was a good race.
Did You see Tony getting out of his car after the race?
He was pissed.
I think thats 39 or 40 races since his last win.
I heard about the audio clip from the in car radio where Tony said to his team on the cool down lap:
"Way to go guys, we gave another one away today!"
Zipadeli fired back:
"We win and lose as a team, enough of that crap"
There were a couple more exchanges then they showed Tony sitting in his car, taking off his belts with a 2 year olds pout on his face! :loser:
It is all a ploy. He doesn't want to win in a Toyota anyway :D
Quote from: Shakey on September 07, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 07, 2008, 05:03:35 PM
That was a good race.
Did You see Tony getting out of his car after the race?
He was pissed.
I think thats 39 or 40 races since his last win.
I heard about the audio clip from the in car radio where Tony said to his team on the cool down lap:
"Way to go guys, we gave another one away today!"
Zipadeli fired back:
"We win and lose as a team, enough of that crap"
There were a couple more exchanges then they showed Tony sitting in his car, taking off his belts with a 2 year olds pout on his face! :loser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xyYXmWIKU
so much for dodge in the chase kasey sucked all day today....maybe next year
Quote from: chargerman68 on September 08, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
so much for dodge in the chase kasey sucked all day today....maybe next year
Well if they didn't make the chase then it sounds as though they sucked all year long!
Quote from: Shakey on September 08, 2008, 07:31:54 AM
Quote from: chargerman68 on September 08, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
so much for dodge in the chase kasey sucked all day today....maybe next year
Well if they didn't make the chase then it sounds as though they sucked all year long!
yep...even if he'd somehow made it in, he would have failed miserably.
Wow, that is the main reason I'm not a big TS fan, he is so wishy washy, and I actually think he has a mental imbalance.
I really think when he sets out next year, he's not ever going to do that well again. :Twocents:
Quote from: Shakey on September 07, 2008, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: Shakey on September 07, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 07, 2008, 05:03:35 PM
That was a good race.
Did You see Tony getting out of his car after the race?
He was pissed.
I think thats 39 or 40 races since his last win.
I heard about the audio clip from the in car radio where Tony said to his team on the cool down lap:
"Way to go guys, we gave another one away today!"
Zipadeli fired back:
"We win and lose as a team, enough of that crap"
There were a couple more exchanges then they showed Tony sitting in his car, taking off his belts with a 2 year olds pout on his face! :loser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xyYXmWIKU
I had not hered the audio.
Can't believe he is blaming his crew.
He should have been high fiveing them for a great finish and a great job.
I agree, He is wishy washy.
I never thought in a million years that I would ever pull for Jimmy Johnson, oh well, I'm pulling for him now, for that matter, I'll pull for any of em that would beat KB.
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 09, 2008, 09:41:17 AM
I never thought in a million years that I would ever pull for Jimmy Johnson, oh well, I'm pulling for him now, for that matter, I'll pull for any of em that would beat KB.
I will go for anyone besides a Tyota driver. Im banking towards Edwards....good guy as far as I am concerned.
Check out these pics of the Nationwide COT. Take a look at the front end of the Chevy. More importantly, take a look at the front clip of the unmarked gray primered car, which I presume is a Dodge - especially the hood. :D
http://jayski.com/nationwide/2008/testing/2008cot-richmond.htm
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 09, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
Check out these pics of the Nationwide COT. Take a look at the front end of the Chevy. More importantly, take a look at the front clip of the unmarked gray primered car, which I presume is a Dodge - especially the hood. :D
http://jayski.com/nationwide/2008/testing/2008cot-richmond.htm
Chally hood?
Quote from: The70RT on September 09, 2008, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 09, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
Check out these pics of the Nationwide COT. Take a look at the front end of the Chevy. More importantly, take a look at the front clip of the unmarked gray primered car, which I presume is a Dodge - especially the hood. :D
http://jayski.com/nationwide/2008/testing/2008cot-richmond.htm
Chally hood?
sure looks like one to me. and the "blunt" nose looks like a chally too.
The chevy (from what one can see, as well) looks like a new camaro.
yawn.. :shruggy:
front:
I'm awake,..
I just got back from the emergency room..
Bob's v.p. remark in the zombie thread, made me pass out from laughing... I hit my head on the bookcase..
funnyist thing I've ever read on this site...
anyhow,.. yeah it's a chally i see it now,.. I belive I belive,..
(sure as shit don't look at all arrowdynamic, no way though)...
and that chebbie don't look camaro to me either, is the ford gonna go mustang?..
and toyota gonna go celica?...
Quote from: Brock Samson on September 09, 2008, 10:13:31 PM
(sure as shit don't look at all arrowdynamic, no way though)...
yeah, didnt they figure out in like '69 that the big lip above the headlights would pickup the frontend of the car?
:hah: Kyle Busch :lolexplode: :boogie: GO CARL ! :drive:
Quote from: The70RT on September 15, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
:hah: Kyle Busch :lolexplode:
I was glad to see him have some troubles too.
It's too early to count anyone out, but I think that at this point it's Johnson's to lose. Him and Knaus have the Chase figured out and pwned.
So what's the deal with GEM buying Bill Davis and it's "Toyota association"? Does that mean they're switching to Toyota? I think it means that GEM is buying out Davis' ties to Toyota and turning the 22 into a Dodge, but the way it's worded at Jayski is very confusing (no surprise there).
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 15, 2008, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: The70RT on September 15, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
:hah: Kyle Busch :lolexplode:
I was glad to see him have some troubles too.
It's too early to count anyone out, but I think that at this point it's Johnson's to lose. Him and Knaus have the Chase figured out and pwned.
So what's the deal with GEM buying Bill Davis and it's "Toyota association"? Does that mean they're switching to Toyota? I think it means that GEM is buying out Davis' ties to Toyota and turning the 22 into a Dodge, but the way it's worded at Jayski is very confusing (no surprise there).
That would be interesting, considering its history!!!!
Looks like the best driver in Nascar is starting to self destruct some over the past few weeks!
+1
still 9 to go but i won't be hurt if KB doesn't do a thing the rest of the year. :Twocents:
Although I do maintain he can drive, but I put him in "the Bif" category, he can drive the wheels off the car.... not always a good thing IMO.
I thought Tony Stewart did an awesome job of salvaging a crappy day. I do wonder if his team told him he threw another one away and thanks alot. :scratchchin: I like Tony, but sometimes he lets his Passion take control of his mouth. He was quite the cheerleader this weekend.
I think Kenseth is out of it for sure now.
As far as KB is concerned, I am not crying at all. Hope he has a few more races like this to take him totally out of the hunt.
Edwards did pretty good for a crappy car at practice, and the Biff sure looked strong.
Quote from: The70RT on September 15, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
:hah: Kyle Busch :lolexplode: :boogie: GO CARL ! :drive:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
210 points out...ouch. Not impossible, but not likely either. I know Johnson has overcome 200+ deficits before, but Busch would need Edwards, Biffle and Johnson to ALL have at least 2 bad weeks to have a chance of catching them. That just ain't gonna happen. I'm still picking Johnson.
I am pulling for Stewart, but I am thinking Edwards will win it this year.
I'd like to see Biffle get it done, he and Carl are my favorite Roush drivers and I like Biffle, He is in my opinion the best all out DRIVER at Roush.
Oh yeah, about Kyle Busch.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: pettyfan43 on September 22, 2008, 08:12:14 PM
I'd like to see Biffle get it done, he and Carl are my favorite Roush drivers and I like Biffle, He is in my opinion the best all out DRIVER at Roush.
Oh yeah, about Kyle Busch.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
his true character comes out when he has trouble and runs away as fast as he can so he doesn't have to talk to the media and expose himself. How many times last year did jr. have motor trouble and talk to whichever reporter got to him first, and say things like, "well going to unleaded has effected the motor dept, but they'll figure it out and we'll be better."
what your heard Kyle say was crap like, "well, it just doesnt matter, I wrecked in new hamp and blew up here at dover a few years ago and where did I end up, 12th, so it doesnt matter."
if jimmy had felt that way in 06 he would have not been 1st.
If you are a KB fan, I'd have to ask why, he doesnt even pull for himself. One of those owners said it best, "anybody can win, but you have to learn how to lose."
:popcrn:
Kyle Busch :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :2thumbs:
Stewart had a very bad day and took himself out of contention. I find it very funny that Gibbs kicked but all year until the Chase. Now they just fell off the map. :shruggy: Guess I will have to wait until next year when Tony is in a Chevy to compete for a Championship.
And yes, Kyle Bush.... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
I loved the move Carl tried at the end. He was trying hard. He should have lifted a little sooner and he might have made it work. I loved how he said he has done that in the video game and made it work, so he thought he would try it in real life. :icon_smile_big: That would have been the move of the year if it would have worked. Can't say the guy doesn't want to win.
Go Carl. :2thumbs:
gotta like the move, didn't work, but he is there to win. :2thumbs:
I don't think I have EVER seen a team IMPLODe to the extent of Gibbs since the start of the chase! The 18 car seemed to be the invincible team until a couple weeks ago, then they just went into the dumper! WEIRD!!! But good!
Good race.
I like Carl, Never here too much bad talk from Him and is a clean driver.
Carl has gone from a loose cannon to a very solid driver, and has matured a TON over the past couple years. The guy IS the real deal.
carl is cinda of a local guy here in the aera , have heard alot of bad press about him not being fan friendly in person , or promising to call local radio and tv shows and not showing up . Carl has a big head they say ! While clint boyer is also consider a local home track kansas speedway guy and he really goes out of his way to be extremely fan friendly and show up for tons of local events . He is a big backer of the new petty victory junction camp here by the kansas track . Just the the local word is on these two !
Quote from: moparstuart on September 30, 2008, 08:16:45 AM
carl is cinda of a local guy here in the aera , have heard alot of bad press about him not being fan friendly in person , or promising to call local radio and tv shows and not showing up . Carl has a big head they say ! While clint boyer is also consider a local home track kansas speedway guy and he really goes out of his way to be extremely fan friendly and show up for tons of local events . He is a big backer of the new petty victory junction camp here by the kansas track . Just the the local word is on these two !
Thats kinda suprizes Me.
We don't get much local news about the drivers, But I thought Carl would be one of the more Friendly One's
I remember when He was begging for a chance to drive and tryiny to get a sponser.
How quickly We forget where We came from.
Mabey He's just shy. :rofl:
Michael Waltrip Racing on Wednesday announced that Robert "Bootie" Barker will be the crew chief of the No. 55 Toyota driven by Michael Waltrip for the 2009 Sprint Cup Series season. Bobby Kennedy, who has worked with Waltrip in multiple roles for more than a decade, is moving into a management position at MWR.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/10/01/mwaltrip.bbarker.crew.chief/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup
Butttttttttttttttttttt, will he actually do batter :scratchchin:
I doubt it. He needs to stick to being a commutator or imitator or whatever.
Quote from: The70RT on October 01, 2008, 07:02:25 PM
I doubt it. He needs to stick to being a commutator or imitator or whatever.
:eek2: I can't stand his commentating. He makes my skin crawl
rumor has it rusty(whiner) wallace want to race for DEI in like a mark martin older mentor roll ??????
will he come out of retirement ?
Never been a Rusty Wallace fan for just that reason, he is a whiner IMO
I read an article and Rusty said that he was not interested in coming back. Kenny seems to be the one who started the rumor. That may just be some smoke and mirror work until details are ironed out though. I think Rusty should jump in his own Nationwide car.David Stremme is going to drive for Penske next year, and the way Stevie tears up cars Rusty is going to need somebody in the other car that can win races and bring the car home in one peice.
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Tony Wins!! Finally got a win this year. Ended his 43 race winless streak. He was lucky he had Smith and Menard behind him instead of two guys who know what they were doing. He would have lost then.
I like Carl, but that was totally stupid hitting Biffle in the corner like that and taking him, Biffle, and Kenseth out as well as Jr. and other. He knew better than that. They had some fast cars and had a legitimate shot at winning. What was he thinking?
The question is, Tony forced Smith below the yellow line, even the guys in the booth were arguing that and something about you can pass under the line on the last lap.
Second question. If that had been Junior passing Tony below the yellow line would Tony still had been awarded the win :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
Smith went below on his own. He was already over it when he was on Tony's quarter. Tony just nudged him a little to be sure they saw it. I do agree, the politics of the sport play a big role in the calls they make in the booth. I actually said to myself after the race he was lucky it wasn't Gordon or Johnson making the pass, because then it would have been legal. :yesnod:
And they were arguing in the booth about the call, but Dale Jarret, a former driver, said it was not legal. He said it can't be illegal for187 laps and then legal on the last lap. This doesn't mean he is right. As stated above, rules are enforced or changed on the spot for political reasons in NASCAR. At least that is what I think.
I never hered that You could pass below the yellow line on the last lap.
If that were true why didn't He get the win.
Tony did force Him down though.
All in alll it was a great race.
Tony DID force him down, and I am a Stewart fan, but he did drive him down there, but at least they are consistent, the SAME situation happened there a few years ago, I think the guy that won was Jr, I think, the guy he knocked down below the line then was Kenny Wallace. It happens.
To me in both cases the guy that got shoved below the line SHOULD have won, and Wallace was penalized, I'm waiting to see if Smith will be. Either way penalizing a guy that got knocked below the line, is BS. To me they are the ones that won the races. BUT that is just my opinion, I could be wrong and your mileage may vary.
He would have been down there regardless. If you watch the replay, Smith dove outside. Tony went to block. He came back down. Tony dove down and blocked. Smith went further down over the line with two left sides and up on Tony's quarter. Tony went down and knocked him down so all four tires were over the line. They dragged to the finish. He was already illegal when his two left sides were over the line. He kept going and advanced his position.
On Nascar Now they just said Smith was given an 18th place finish. They said if it happened in the middle of the race Smith would have been given a pass through penelty or sent to the end of the longest line on a restart. That is how why they gave him the last position on the lead lap for a finish. They also said the drivers are told it is illegal to pass below the line. Even on the last lap.
Smith should have held his line then there wouild have been a crash. It would have been Smiths fault anyway since he isn't popular.
if smith had held his cut down low line, stewart would have wrecked himself by coming back down on him trying to block, NASCAR would have said it was a racing incident and smith would have won and DEI would have loved it, and praised him for being strong enough to hold his position against the great giant of TONY STEWART.... but oh well, he's a rookie :nana:
oh, dont get me wrong, tony winning isnt bad... just his complaining about not winning for so long.
Throw Toyota outta NASCAR !!!
This is cool! :2thumbs:
Petty's 1967 Plymouth presented to Hall of Fame
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/10/10/hall.of.fame.rpetty.first.piece/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup
That is pretty cool. :coolgleamA: Very appropriate to have have a Petty car be the first.
That is cool.
Long time coming.
I love the old Belvedere's.
Qualifying rained out again for the 3rd week :brickwall:
Whelp, this will give Johnson the championship again because he gets the points, and doesn't have to work to get to the front ::) :icon_smile_dissapprove:
I don't know or understand why the hell they can't just reschedule qualifying to tomarrow like practice, which they could take away one practice session, and make it just 1 lap of qualifying.
Well, Johnson is getting the easy up front starts, but it ain't over til it's over. One slip and Biffle will be right on him with Burton and Edwards not too far behind.
I'd like to see Edwards or Burton win it.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on October 25, 2008, 10:56:56 AM
I'd like to Edwards or Burton win it.
Yeah buddy. I'm tired of the same guy winning all the time.
I'd actually like to see Greg Biffle win the title, I like the guy and he can drive the STINK out of a racecar, Hey he won at michigan last year an actually backed the car into the wall doing the smoke show!!!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
After that Jeff Burton, Clint Bowyer or Edwards.
Good win by Carl, But JJ came on strong and probably clinched the championship.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on October 27, 2008, 07:52:48 PM
Good win by Carl, But JJ came on strong and probably clinched the championship.
Sounds like it unless he has some misfortune :eyes:
Looks like JJ is gona take it again.
Only hope for Carl is if Jimmy don't show up. ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like Ray Evernham is retiring from Nascar. :o
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081110/FREE/811109989 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081110/FREE/811109989)
I think JJ is going to win it. Bummer.
That is not a shocker that Ray is leaving. I think he went into ownership on a high, but the stress of being an owner and trying to find sponsorship and budgets was just not his bag.
Quote from: General_01 on November 11, 2008, 05:24:18 PM
I think JJ is going to win it. Bummer.
That is not a shocker that Ray is leaving. I think he went into ownership on a high, but the stress of being an owner and trying to find sponsorship and budgets was just not his bag.
Looks like a lot of sponsers are droping out next Year.
They said Texaco and Mabey the car Manufactures wont be sponsering next Year.
Ford and GM said they are committed to Nascar. Here's the story.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-automakerwoes&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-automakerwoes&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Did you guys see that Johnny Benson won the Truck series championship? That was a great fight. Personally, I did not really care if Johnny won or Ron won until Kevin Harvick started blocking for Ron and giving him the lead so he could lead laps. That pissed me off. :flame: If Ron is going to win it, let him win it. Great strategy by Johnny and his team on that last pit stop helped him win the Championship. He finished right ahead of Ron. He will also be remembered for winning the last championship when the series was sponsored by Craftsman. Next year it's Camping World.
Ray Evernham is retiring from Nascar.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/11/22/revernham.buy.track/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/11/22/revernham.buy.track/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup)
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you are correct sir. 2100 hours on espn classic
I am sad to see the season over because where else are you gonna see so may commercials with a little racing thrown in. :Twocents: Plus if I heard Jimmy Johnson one more time :RantExplode:
How sad is this :'( Petty Enterprizes related.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/12/08/kpetty.petty.enterprises/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/12/08/kpetty.petty.enterprises/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-petty-layoffs&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-petty-layoffs&prov=ap&type=lgns)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=nascar_com-one.menz.jmenzer.kpetty.enterprises&prov=nascar_com&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=nascar_com-one.menz.jmenzer.kpetty.enterprises&prov=nascar_com&type=lgns)
They were already talking about that with 3 races to go during the season. You can't get money if you aren't winning races or at the very least being competitive. Petty Enterprises hasn't been competitive for the last 15 years or more. Sponsors want to see their product name in Victory Lane and up front getting TV coverage if they are going to dump that kind of money into a race team. I would rather see Petty Enterprises end myself. It has just been slow torture watching it become a team that is there to fill one of the last of the 43 slots on the track rather than a team that can win on any given Sunday, because frankly, they have never had a shot at winning in years.
I'm sorry, but I just don't get the hype with NASCAR racing.. :brickwall:
Its like W.T.F 30-40 some cars going round in a damn circle.. They only turn left... Like you could watch the start and about 5 of the first laps, then go mess about with your own ride in the garage, then return to the TV an hour later and you would not have missed any thing.. Well may be one or two big pile ups in turn 3 or 4 (that's another thing, its a freaking circle, it doesn't have fukn turns!!! The damn track is just one big ass turn...
I think they need a rule change... really mess with the minds of the racers.. and audience... like at the half way mark of the race, they should turn the cars around and drive around the track the other way round. That might make it interesting, like see if the drivers can handle a car turning right... shouldn't require that much intelligence from either drivers or the audience...
My :Twocents:
Quote from: Mefirst on December 10, 2008, 09:59:46 PM
I'm sorry, but I just don't get the hype with NASCAR racing.. :brickwall:
Its like W.T.F 30-40 some cars going round in a damn circle.. They only turn left... Like you could watch the start and about 5 of the first laps, then go mess about with your own ride in the garage, then return to the TV an hour later and you would not have missed any thing.. Well may be one or two big pile ups in turn 3 or 4 (that's another thing, its a freaking circle, it doesn't have fukn turns!!! The damn track is just one big ass turn...
I think they need a rule change... really mess with the minds of the racers.. and audience... like at the half way mark of the race, they should turn the cars around and drive around the track the other way round. That might make it interesting, like see if the drivers can handle a car turning right... shouldn't require that much intelligence from either drivers or the audience...
My :Twocents:
I really don't get drag racing. I mean, all they do is drive in a straight line. How hard is that?!! And don't get me started on crashes. How do you crash just going in a straight line? :Twocents:
Just so you know, your little blurb sounds just as stupid as what I just wrote.
Drag racing to me is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry boring. The only time I watch is if it is all classic cars (or street stock) cause then it is like going to a car show. I.E. Pinks or Pass Time where at least it is all basically modified street racers. A 3 second race doesn't even give you enough time to think if you enjoyed that run :Twocents:
The sad thing is, they could of run 5 races in the time it took me to type this out. :P
Your slooooooooooooooooooooooow :lol:
:-\
LaBonte Released By Petty Enterprizes (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/12/11/petty.announcement.blabonte/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2008-12-11-petty-labonte_N.htm
petty is trying to merge with gillette evernham
I am thinking Bobby wanted out so he could find another ride before Daytona since everything is up in the air at Petty. I bet he does end up at Earnhardt Ganassi.
Read that Ray Evernham just cleaned out ALL his personnel possessions at Gillett/Evernham Motorsports AND that Elliot Sadler got the boot and is being replaced by AJ Almandinger.
We already knew Ray was getting out. I didn't know about Sadler. Can't say I am surprised though.
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Quote from: bigred68 on December 27, 2008, 09:06:26 PM
Third; PLEASE be careful of the pics of the females. I find them hot (BTW I noticed the other peircing also!!) ;) but this is family, work friendy type of board and therefore, discreation must be used. That being said ENJOY!! and WELCOME!! and PM me some of those "other"
Dude...kettle meet pot!
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Quote from: bigred68 on December 27, 2008, 09:06:26 PM
Third; PLEASE be careful of the pics of the females. I find them hot (BTW I noticed the other peircing also!!) ;) but this is family, work friendy type of board and therefore, discreation must be used. That being said ENJOY!! and WELCOME!! and PM me some of those "other"
Dude...kettle meet pot!
yup. sorry. you're correct. I won't get worse than that. Just.. couldn't help it. ;)
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GEM has merger agreement with Petty Enterprises
Richard Petty's famed No. 43 Dodge was rescued from near ruin Thursday when Gillett Evernham Motorsports agreed to merge with Petty's slumping organization to create a new team.
GEM had been in exclusive negotiations with Petty Enterprises to combine the two teams into one four-car organization, and an agreement in principle was announced Thursday. The deal is not expected to be closed until the end of the month.
The team will be co-owned by Richard Petty, Petty Holdings—which is owned by majority shareholder Boston Ventures—and Gillett Evernham Motorsports. Ray Evernham, who formed his team in 1999 but sold majority interest to businessman George Gillett Jr. in 2007, will be a minority owner in the venture.
The name of the new team was not released, but it's believed the parties are leaning toward re-branding the organization Richard Petty Motorsports to capitalize on the seven-time NASCAR champion's name.
More HERE (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-gem-pettyenterprises&prov=ap&type=lgns)
hmm, Kasey at the helm, not bad, but no one to help him out IMO.
All in all, 4 car team, couple of old salts, maybe they'll be in the game....
I hope so, but they need some drivers.
What is this world coming to? These 3, 4 & 5 car teams are getting ridiculous, the 1 & 2 car teams don't have a chance anymore. Although the testing advantage is possibly going away for the larger teams, well at least somewhat. :brickwall:
I am a big Kasey fan as well as a Long time Bobby Labonte fan, it's tough to see Bobby leave the #43 car but I think that he should have left before when he probably had a chance at driving for Richard Childress. I still believe that Bobby has what it takes to win but he needs consistant support and equipment. :drive:
WINGR
Maybe some hope left for Richard. I can't imagine how he feels about he was so dominate and now their team can't even win a frickin race in 10 years. I can't remember but didn't Bobby win one race or was I thinking he almost did :shruggy: Kasey had a pretty crappy year and hopefully he can get back to the way he ran in 07.
Bobby hasn't won a race since 2003 when he was with JGR(ton of top 5's that year). The best he ever did with Petty was a couple top 5's in 06' and some top 10's in 07' and 08'(just 2 last year)
I was watching the first Speed News of the year on Speed channel last night. They of course talked about Petty Enterprizes, and the way they made it sound, is that Reed Sorenson will be the new driver for the 43 car. I kinda like Reed, so, I hope it works out.
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on January 12, 2009, 11:47:06 AM
I was watching the first Speed News of the year on Speed channel last night. They of course talked about Petty Enterprizes, and the way they made it sound, is that Reed Sorenson will be the new driver for the 43 car. I kinda like Reed, so, I hope it works out.
on TV he looks like he's 12 years old
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
Quote from: JC 42 on January 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
Very Nice!!! :2thumbs:
Quote from: The70RT on January 09, 2009, 08:58:15 PM
Maybe some hope left for Richard. I can't imagine how he feels about he was so dominate and now their team can't even win a frickin race in 10 years. I can't remember but didn't Bobby win one race or was I thinking he almost did :shruggy: Kasey had a pretty crappy year and hopefully he can get back to the way he ran in 07.
He almost did awhile back, but that was before he joined Petty I remember because the race was stopped and they (the guys calling the race) tried to talk to him and he was so focused on the restart he pretty much said nothing. Unfortunatley he didnt hold the lead came second and you could see how mad he was (he kicked his car hard!)
Quote from: JC 42 on January 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
That's sweet! :2thumbs:
Check out my all third gen Charger forum too. I got a section for old race cars too.
Quote from: JC 42 on January 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
Very nice indeed!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Welcome aboard. :wave:
Mike
Quote from: JC 42 on January 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
That car is awsome :2thumbs:
Great job.
Welcome aboard
Bobby Labonte will drive No. 96 for Hall of Fame racing this year.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/01/13/blabonte.hof.racing/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/01/13/blabonte.hof.racing/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup)
That thing looks AWESOME!!
Is there another webpage with the story or pics of it?
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Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on January 13, 2009, 11:31:56 PM
Bobby Labonte will drive No. 96 for Hall of Fame racing this year.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/01/13/blabonte.hof.racing/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/01/13/blabonte.hof.racing/index.html?eref=/rss/news/headlines/cup)
Two Words.......
He's Done. :rotz:
Why, why, why? :brickwall:
Yates Racing to run Hall of Fame's team
"The team quickly signed former Cup Series champion Bobby Labonte to drive the No. 96 Ford, which will operate out of Yates' shop, and secured primary sponsorship from search engine Ask.com."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-yates-hofmerger&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-yates-hofmerger&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Race time is getting close :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Nice #71 Charger replica, sweeet.
:2thumbs:
Nascar changed the Bud Shootout format.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=txnascarbudshootout&prov=st&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=txnascarbudshootout&prov=st&type=lgns)
Don't forget the Bud Shootout Saturday night ;)
Racing season is BACK! :boogie:
Anybody notice the lack of Petty blue on the #43 car????
I saw that too. Was weird to see it like that.
how dare you guys let this thread get so old people cant find it drunk.
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I got the track pass free on nascar.com. with paypal its 0.00 charged to you for a 14 day run. I was going to pull the pulg on it after the gatoraid duel.
I cant wait. 15 minutes!!!
:2thumbs:
Quote from: JC 42 on January 12, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Heres mine I built it What do you think. JC
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
That is sweet!
Martin Truex on the poll, Mark Martin 2nd for the 500 next Sunday :2thumbs:
Bill Elliot 5th :o :2thumbs:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on February 08, 2009, 04:11:10 PM
Martin Truex on the poll, Mark Martin 2nd for the 500 next Sunday :2thumbs:
Bill Elliot 5th :o :2thumbs:
Go MARK!!!
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on February 08, 2009, 04:11:10 PM
Bill Elliot 5th :o :2thumbs:
No real big surprise to me on that one. You won't see him very much in the race though i'll bet. BTW, he is/was my favorite driver since 83/84 but.....it's time to retire. Just being used for past champ advantage, not really competitive anymore and the fact that he runs limited schedule makes me want him to quit even more. All about the mighty dollar and sponsors getting their name out there vice good stock car drivers driving a stock car. I'm starting to lose a little interest after seeing those cars yesterday and the changes. Maybe Sunday's race will spark something. ::)
(Mike DC)I really don't have a web site or a story. I'm just a die hard mopar oval track racer who put the time into build my cars nice and fast and keep them that way. But the story behind my car is I'm a local (Ga) racer who loves puttin it to the Chevy and ford boys. We ran the car at Rockingham speedway New Years day in the Polar Bear 150. Started 12th run third till lap 75 lost the Alt fell back to 8th & then losing the bat at 125 held on to finish 14th out of 65 Chevy and 2 fords and my 1 dodge. I had a ball tyring to win that race.Check out www.rockinghamspeedway.com we are headed back July 4th for another race for sure,I'll be better prepaired next trip, hope the series will have a few more this year. Maybe they will get it up to 6 or 8 races a year in 2010. Here's a few pic when I was building the car. JC
Whats up with the Bush Boy's
They're tearing it up lately.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on March 22, 2009, 08:02:15 PM
Whats up with the Bush Boy's
They're tearing it up lately.
i kno...and yet another one slips thru the fingers of my main man JG :rotz:
Who are the Bush brother? :shruggy:
George and Jeb :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: General_01 on March 22, 2009, 08:44:24 PM
Who are the Bush brother? :shruggy:
Kyle Bush and Kurt Bush.
Nascar drivers
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 22, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
George and Jeb :icon_smile_big:
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
OHHHH!!
You mean Kyle Busch and Kurt Busch. :nana:
Quote from: General_01 on March 22, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
OHHHH!!
You mean Kyle Busch and Kurt Busch. :nana:
head for the mountains
Quote from: General_01 on March 22, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
OHHHH!!
You mean Kyle Busch and Kurt Busch. :nana:
Dooohh :brickwall: :brickwall:
Can I blame that on spell check? :D
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 22, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
George and Jeb :icon_smile_big:
That is some funny $#!% right there. :smilielol: :smilielol:
I am surprised know one has brought up the race Sunday at Talledega. This was a great race with a amazing finish. Happy my guy Ryan was still able to finish third.
Video:
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212226017.shtml
I was actually suprized no one brought it up either. That to me was the best race I saw in a few years. And the most spetacular. I was disapointed in Carl Edwards statements about the fact that NASCAR won't do anything til someone gets killed. Like Micheal Waltrip said last night, that no one makes him get into the cars, and he knows that this all can happen. Stupid Chad Kanous (sp?) thinks they should know the banking down now at Talladega or put a shicain in the middle of the back straight away to slow the cars down ::)
Edwards car would of never went into the fence if Newman wouldn't of hit him. It was a freak accident. I loved the race, I like Brad K., so I was happy for him to win. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 28, 2009, 05:06:32 PM
I was disapointed in Carl Edwards statements about the fact that NASCAR won't do anything til someone gets killed.
If I remember correctly Dale Sr. was killed in the final turn at Daytona eight years ago and their still plate racing.
The changes made after his death was the head restraint, soft walls and some changes to the cars to try and absorb more of the impact from the crash. Nothing to reduce the speeds.
I think the open face helmet did him in more than anything. :shruggy:
I like the super speedways so it was a good race to watch for me.
I was just happy Burton punted Kyle out of the way. :icon_smile_big:
I thought it was a good race. I was rather surprised that two cars together could draft faster than the freight train. That's what made it more exciting from my point of view. Brad coming from about 11th with 2 laps to go to win kinda reminded me of Earnhardt Sr. coming from 18th with 5 laps to go and winning years ago.
edwards running across the finishline was straight ricky bobby :smilielol: :smilielol:
that was a bunch of crap when they said it was carl edwards fault he flipped it was all keslowski's fault if the look at the tape slow enough then they would see the yes edward was going down to block but he never touched keslowski and then keslowki went to pass him on the out side ant clipped edwards back end and spun him out and thats how it went down but i do like the whole ricky bobbie stunt to get out of his car and run to the finish line.
Quote from: NHCharger on April 28, 2009, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 28, 2009, 05:06:32 PM
I was disapointed in Carl Edwards statements about the fact that NASCAR won't do anything til someone gets killed.
If I remember correctly Dale Sr. was killed in the final turn at Daytona eight years ago and their still plate racing.
The changes made after his death was the head restraint, soft walls and some changes to the cars to try and absorb more of the impact from the crash. Nothing to reduce the speeds.
So, your saying they should reduce the speeds to under 100mph? It was a racing accident that you will have at almost any high speed. I've been to short track races, and saw worse accidents. And they run under 100mph per lap. It can happen at just about any racing speed. If you want the cars to go slower, then you mize well just ban all racing. You don't see football players wearing more padding because one player got his neck broke. It's part of the sport. The drivers, and fans all know this can happen at any race. Just like a wheel or hood going into the stands. You can only do so much to improve things until you reach a point to where it is even senceless to continue. I still disrespect Edwards statement as do a few drivers. He was just pissed he didn't win the race is all.
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 11:39:59 AM
that was a bunch of crap when they said it was carl edwards fault he flipped it was all keslowski's fault if the look at the tape slow enough then they would see the yes edward was going down to block but he never touched keslowski and then keslowki went to pass him on the out side ant clipped edwards back end and spun him out and thats how it went down but i do like the whole ricky bobbie stunt to get out of his car and run to the finish line.
It wasn't Keslowski's fault. All the other drivers even have said it wasn't. He did what he had to, to win. I would of done the same thing if it was me. You guys forget, RUBBING IS RACING.
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
If you need to blame anyone, blame NASCAR. They made the "Yellow Line" rule. Last year Regan Smith went below the yellow line so that wouldn't happen to Tony Stewart. He was penalized and the win went to Stewart. Brad wasn't going to move down and give the race away. End of story. Even Carl said he did the right thing. That's just the way it is.
As far as Carl's statement, I think he is saying that Nascar has to let them race to the finish line. Basically, throw out the yellow line rule on the last lap, or at least from turn 4 to the finish line. Everybody is going to go for broke on that last lap and drivers are going to do crazy things. Drivers need to be able to manuever.
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 29, 2009, 01:23:31 PM
So, your saying they should reduce the speeds to under 100mph?
No, just stating a fact. NASCAR did nothing when Petty, Irwin, or the guy that drove in the truck series all died within four months of each other in 2000. Track safety did not keep up with the increased speeds of the cars.
I think NASCAR has gone overboard with some of it's safety ideas. I'll never forget when they put restrictor plates on the cars for the race at New Hampshire after Kenny Irwin was killed during practice (Petty was killed in a practice crash there a few months earlier in almost the exact same spot). Jeff Burton lead the entire race, no one could pass. After the race either Burton or Bill Elliot said "that race was so embarrassing we ought to give the fans their money back".
Quote from: General_01 on April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
As far as Carl's statement, I think he is saying that Nascar has to let them race to the finish line. Basically, throw out the yellow line rule on the last lap, or at least from turn 4 to the finish line. Everybody is going to go for broke on that last lap and drivers are going to do crazy things. Drivers need to be able to manuever.
That would be the best way to do it. :yesnod:
Quote from: NHCharger on April 29, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 29, 2009, 01:23:31 PM
So, your saying they should reduce the speeds to under 100mph?
No, just stating a fact. NASCAR did nothing when Petty, Irwin, or the guy that drove in the truck series all died within four months of each other in 2000. Track safety did not keep up with the increased speeds of the cars.
I think NASCAR has gone overboard with some of it's safety ideas. I'll never forget when they put restrictor plates on the cars for the race at New Hampshire after Kenny Irwin was killed during practice (Petty was killed in a practice crash there a few months earlier in almost the exact same spot). Jeff Burton lead the entire race, no one could pass. After the race either Burton or Bill Elliot said "that race was so embarrassing we ought to give the fans their money back".
I remember that too :yesnod:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 30, 2009, 01:48:09 AM
Quote from: General_01 on April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
As far as Carl's statement, I think he is saying that Nascar has to let them race to the finish line. Basically, throw out the yellow line rule on the last lap, or at least from turn 4 to the finish line. Everybody is going to go for broke on that last lap and drivers are going to do crazy things. Drivers need to be able to manuever.
That would be the best way to do it. :yesnod:
And you and your family and friends can sit in the first five rows of the grandstand so that when a car does go through the fence you'll be able to see it first hand.
Have fun.
Well then, fuck it all!
Lets just make any type of auto racing illegal from now on. I have been in the stands here locally when cars come though the front wall. Yes, there were minor (cuts & scraps) from parts flying off, but it never deterred me from going again. Like I said before EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN THEY GO TO THESE TYPE OF EVENTS..... EVERYONE!
One of the local tracks here even has a sign when you buy you tickets, that says they are not responsible for any injuries accrued from cars on the track, or parts coming off of them. And it still is a full house every week. If you don't like taking that risk, stay the hell home. NASCAR no matter what they do, will NEVER make everyone happy.
Even Bobby Allison who had that very simular crash in '87 that started restricor plate racing, said NASCAR should not change anything. He pretty much says the same thing I am saying.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AgghMhiZLSJThbS_xFWPmKDTv7YF?slug=ap-nascar-allison-edwardscrash&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AgghMhiZLSJThbS_xFWPmKDTv7YF?slug=ap-nascar-allison-edwardscrash&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Quote from: Shakey on April 30, 2009, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 30, 2009, 01:48:09 AM
Quote from: General_01 on April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
As far as Carl's statement, I think he is saying that Nascar has to let them race to the finish line. Basically, throw out the yellow line rule on the last lap, or at least from turn 4 to the finish line. Everybody is going to go for broke on that last lap and drivers are going to do crazy things. Drivers need to be able to manuever.
That would be the best way to do it. :yesnod:
And you and your family and friends can sit in the first five rows of the grandstand so that when a car does go through the fence you'll be able to see it first hand.
Have fun.
That's the same kind of thinking that forced hair dryer manufacturer's to put a warning on them that using them in the bathtub is dangerous. ::) Sometimes you need to let people make their own choices. Anyone that goes to a car race knows what may happen.
I found this on Jayski. Dodge may be pulling out of NASCAR after this year. Or told to pull out?
At first blush, it doesn't look like Chrysler's filing for bankruptcy protection on Thursday will have any immediate effect on the seven Sprint Cup teams backed by Dodge. Chrysler was quick to issue a statement on Thursday reaffirming their commitment to NASCAR. But how long, exactly, is the foreseeable future? Several people I [Lars Anderson] talked to involved with NASCAR on Friday morning, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, strongly believed that Chrysler would pull its NASCAR funding in 2010. (The company already slashed its motor sports budget by 30 percent this year.) Then the question would become this: What would happen to the seven teams that Dodge supports? That is the great unknown.(Sports Illustrated)(5-2-2009)
Go Mark.....the ole man gotta another win :2thumbs:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 30, 2009, 11:00:16 AM
Well then, fuck it all!
Lets just make any type of auto racing illegal from now on. I have been in the stands here locally when cars come though the front wall. Yes, there were minor (cuts & scraps) from parts flying off, but it never deterred me from going again. Like I said before EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN THEY GO TO THESE TYPE OF EVENTS..... EVERYONE!
One of the local tracks here even has a sign when you buy you tickets, that says they are not responsible for any injuries accrued from cars on the track, or parts coming off of them. And it still is a full house every week. If you don't like taking that risk, stay the hell home. NASCAR no matter what they do, will NEVER make everyone happy.
Even Bobby Allison who had that very simular crash in '87 that started restricor plate racing, said NASCAR should not change anything. He pretty much says the same thing I am saying.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AgghMhiZLSJThbS_xFWPmKDTv7YF?slug=ap-nascar-allison-edwardscrash&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AgghMhiZLSJThbS_xFWPmKDTv7YF?slug=ap-nascar-allison-edwardscrash&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Ummm - I never said to cancel all the races and make it illegal. I said:
QuoteAnd you and your family and friends can sit in the first five rows of the grandstand so that when a car does go through the fence you'll be able to see it first hand.
Have fun.
Quote from: General_01 on April 30, 2009, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: Shakey on April 30, 2009, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on April 30, 2009, 01:48:09 AM
Quote from: General_01 on April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: CHARGERMAN2007_69 on April 29, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
tru but to tell u the truth edwars should have won the race
As far as Carl's statement, I think he is saying that Nascar has to let them race to the finish line. Basically, throw out the yellow line rule on the last lap, or at least from turn 4 to the finish line. Everybody is going to go for broke on that last lap and drivers are going to do crazy things. Drivers need to be able to manuever.
That would be the best way to do it. :yesnod:
And you and your family and friends can sit in the first five rows of the grandstand so that when a car does go through the fence you'll be able to see it first hand.
Have fun.
That's the same kind of thinking that forced hair dryer manufacturer's to put a warning on them that using them in the bathtub is dangerous. ::) Sometimes you need to let people make their own choices. Anyone that goes to a car race knows what may happen.
That's right - I agree!
You can sit in the first five rows with your family and friends with Pete and his family and friends.
:lol:
i'm gonna throw out a gripe against mark martin for a sec...correct me if i'm wrong...but he is running a limited sched this year right? he isn't racing for a championship...so why does he have two wins this season...your taking points/wins away from possible championship contenders...if your gonna retire, then do so...just me... :Twocents:
Quote from: Foreman72 on May 11, 2009, 04:09:59 PM
i'm gonna throw out a gripe against mark martin for a sec...correct me if i'm wrong...but he is running a limited sched this year right? he isn't racing for a championship...so why does he have two wins this season...your taking points/wins away from possible championship contenders...if your gonna retire, then do so...just me... :Twocents:
If he can win , I say go for it . He is the man beating kid half his age . I love it .
Quote from: Foreman72 on May 11, 2009, 04:09:59 PM
i'm gonna throw out a gripe against mark martin for a sec...correct me if i'm wrong...but he is running a limited sched this year right? he isn't racing for a championship...so why does he have two wins this season...your taking points/wins away from possible championship contenders...if your gonna retire, then do so...just me... :Twocents:
Martin is running the full schedule this year. And if you think that, then the Cup guys should not be racing in the Nationwide series and Kyle Busch should stay out of the truck series.
The only gripe I have with guys running limited schedules is that they don't take out other guys running the full schedule. Kyle Busch drives like an idiot in the truck series. If his truck is on, that is good. If his truck stinks, then he should not be pushing it beyond it's limits around guys running the full schedule. Same goes for Cup guys in the Nationwide series. Just my opinion.
Quote from: General_01 on May 11, 2009, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: Foreman72 on May 11, 2009, 04:09:59 PM
i'm gonna throw out a gripe against mark martin for a sec...correct me if i'm wrong...but he is running a limited sched this year right? he isn't racing for a championship...so why does he have two wins this season...your taking points/wins away from possible championship contenders...if your gonna retire, then do so...just me... :Twocents:
Martin is running the full schedule this year. And if you think that, then the Cup guys should not be racing in the Nationwide series and Kyle Busch should stay out of the truck series.
The only gripe I have with guys running limited schedules is that they don't take out other guys running the full schedule. Kyle Busch drives like an idiot in the truck series. If his truck is on, that is good. If his truck stinks, then he should not be pushing it beyond it's limits around guys running the full schedule. Same goes for Cup guys in the Nationwide series. Just my opinion.
well if he is running a full sched then fine by me...but i agree that if kyle isn't in trucks to win the cup then he shouldn't be racing...if you got a need for speed find a dirt track
Yes Martin is running a full schedule in cup. He just signed an extension for next year.
Two guys I'd like to see win the cup are Martin and Jeff Burton. They're both class acts.
other interesting news.
Jeremy Mayfield has been suspended indefinitely for failing a drug test :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:. I love it, can't stand him or his attention whore of a wife.
I like Martin, I was glad to see him win. :2thumbs:
Quote from: NHCharger on May 11, 2009, 08:35:15 PM
Jeremy Mayfield has been suspended indefinitely for failing a drug test :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:. I love it, can't stand him or his attention whore of a wife.
And Jeremy said it was a combination of allergy medication. ::)
so i went to the race @ NHMS today, friend from church gave me tickets 4 tickets out of the blue when i walked in...so my family went...i tell ya, nothing like one live...my ears are still ringing...o yeah...next time, i'm bringing plugs...but it was such an awesome time...24 got robbed...nice dice rolling there 20 team...but its all good...good for the kid winning his first...
That's cool! I wanted Tony to win or Mark. I was to one Busch race back in 1978 when they raced real cars in Milwaukee. That was a blast. I heard on one of the pre-race shows, I guess NASCAR is thinking about debuting the new car for Nationwide series next year in 5 races, then full time in 2011. I guess the Nationwide cars are supposed to have a more "Muscle car" look whatever that really means.
My guess is that it will be made to look less like the GM cars and more like the Camry.
Latest rumor. Danica Patrick to NASCAR :puke: :puke: :puke:
She's going to drive for Hendrick's. Since next year is the four car limit rule the rumor is she is taking Junior's ride and Junior will drive his own car at DJ Motorsports with Hendrick's bankrolling him (supposedly). Hendrick's is finally finding out that Junior is just an average driver who can't find his pit box even with a big #88 in front of it.
Quote from: NHCharger on July 03, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
Latest rumor. Danica Patrick to NASCAR :puke: :puke: :puke:
She's going to drive for Hendrick's. Since next year is the four car limit rule the rumor is she is taking Junior's ride and Junior will drive his own car at DJ Motorsports with Hendrick's bankrolling him (supposedly). Hendrick's is finally finding out that Junior is just an average driver who can't find his pit box even with a big #88 in front of it.
ahahaha junior joke...gotta love it
danica...um...no thanks...F1 you can keep her, no really we insist...
Nice finish to the race last night. There was no need for Kyle Busch to try and pinch Stewart off at the end. Stewart did not have enough time or momentum to get past Kyle for the win. Someday Kyle's going to get someone killed.
The back stretch stands were totally empty. How many people does it hold, 30-40 thousand?
Go Tony Stewart!!!!!!!!!!
i agree though he wouldnt have caught Kyle without Busch's attempted block off of 4
I don't understand why Tony said he felt so bad for that. The only person in the world that was mad about it was Kyle. :smilielol:
I thought it was a great fininsh. Kyle finally got the short end of the stick with his dumbass moves he makes. Felt sorry for Kahne though. That was a pretty rough hit when he went into Kyle.
That move was the same type of crap he does when he makes it 3 wide going into a turn expecting the others to lift and let him in. He is just a dick. He endangers people on the track, and when something happens it's always the other guys fault or his crews fault. Never his. Sorry to say, but I'm glad he hit the wall hard. You never know, maybe it will knock some sense into him. I doubt it though. He showed his baby side again last night because he did not want to comment after the wreck. WAH! WAH! WAH!.
GO TONY!!!!!!!
Even the announcers on tv said it was Kyles fault. :smilielol:
He will never learn untill he gets himself hurt bad.
holy crap...watched the highlights from last night...A) kyles fault B) tony has matured greatly...greatly C) great freakin finish!
I'd like to see Jimmy Spencer give Kyle Busch a well deserved punch in the nose just like he did to his brother Kurt. :yesnod:
I agree, last nights wreck was all Kyle's fault. He tried to sweep in front of Tony and put himself into the wall. Punkassbitch had it coming too !!!! He crossed the line of aggressive driving to dangerous driving.
Signed: The Anti-Kyle Busch Fan
Michael Waltrip announced he'll scale back to a partial schedule in 2010 to make room for Martin Truex Jr. to join the team.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-mwr-truex&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-mwr-truex&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on July 07, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
Michael Waltrip announced he'll scale back to a partial schedule in 2010 to make room for Martin Truex Jr. to join the team.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-mwr-truex&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-mwr-truex&prov=ap&type=lgns)
How long does it take for a person to realize he has no talent?? That idiot has been racing for over 20 years in the Cup series and has won how many races? 3-4? Just because his brother had talent and won 84 races doesnt mean he would have talent too. Junior has been crappy for a while but has won four times as many races as Waltrip. That doesnt say much for Jr, but hes still a better driver.
And for how much crap Busch dishes out about how much better he is than Jr, Jr has 10 wins at restrictor plates. How many for busch?
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
Quote from: General_01 on July 09, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
.....and if it were Tony Stewart that got spun out, he'd be whining too!
Same stuff every week!
Quote from: Shakey on July 10, 2009, 05:58:44 AM
Quote from: General_01 on July 09, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
.....and if it were Tony Stewart that got spun out, he'd be whining too!
Same stuff every week!
Your right, but it seems Busch can take it to a whole new level. That wreck was Buschs fault. They have been told not to block and thats what he did. Earnhardt did it too and we all know how that turned out.
Quote from: Shakey on July 10, 2009, 05:58:44 AM
Quote from: General_01 on July 09, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
.....and if it were Tony Stewart that got spun out, he'd be whining too!
Same stuff every week!
The difference is that Tony would not have driven like Kyle. He had his chance to do that when they came to the white flag. He didn't run up the track to cut Kyle off because he knows what would happen. Kyle is just an idiot who thinks nothing of the consequences. Maybe in a few years he will understand, but right now he is just an idiot who is such a baby that he refuses to talk to the media. Actually, I am guessing that he is under orders from sponsers and Gibbs to not talk to the media after a race unless he wins because he is such a crybaby. When he loses, it's always someone else's fault. Usually "the guys" didn't do the right things to the car. He was probably causing a rift in the team with his attitude.
If Tony would have made that move on Dale Jr., Kevin Harvick, Jeff Burton, Jeff Gordon, JJ, Mark Martin, etc. things would have been different, because those guys would not have tried the second block. They don't drive like idiots.
I used to be a huge NASCAR Fan but anymore I cant stand it if they where to do away with it all together it wouldnt bother me at all.
Quote from: General_01 on July 10, 2009, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: Shakey on July 10, 2009, 05:58:44 AM
Quote from: General_01 on July 09, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
.....and if it were Tony Stewart that got spun out, he'd be whining too!
Same stuff every week!
The difference is that Tony would not have driven like Kyle. He had his chance to do that when they came to the white flag. He didn't run up the track to cut Kyle off because he knows what would happen. Kyle is just an idiot who thinks nothing of the consequences. Maybe in a few years he will understand, but right now he is just an idiot who is such a baby that he refuses to talk to the media. Actually, I am guessing that he is under orders from sponsers and Gibbs to not talk to the media after a race unless he wins because he is such a crybaby. When he loses, it's always someone else's fault. Usually "the guys" didn't do the right things to the car. He was probably causing a rift in the team with his attitude.
If Tony would have made that move on Dale Jr., Kevin Harvick, Jeff Burton, Jeff Gordon, JJ, Mark Martin, etc. things would have been different, because those guys would not have tried the second block. They don't drive like idiots.
Well spoken. :2thumbs:
It's funny how the Nascar media paints this whole picture of how the fans boo Kyle because he wins so much, but most of us know the real reason is because of his personality. I used to think Kurt was such an idiot, but Kyle is all of that and more. I keep wondering why these two had to get into Nascar instead of some other type of Motorsports where this snotty know it all attitude is more common. :Twocents:
WINGR
I think Kurt has mellowed out alot over the last few years. I remember when him and Jimmy Spencer used to get into and spencer wanted beat his ass a couple of times. Kyle is just a Dick. And like you said, he whines if he doesnt win and blames everyone but the driver! Or runs away, just like after the race when the officials had to drag him to the infieldcare center.
What a little Bitch!! :RantExplode:
Quote from: Landonsrt on July 10, 2009, 11:16:13 AM
I think Kurt has mellowed out alot over the last few years. I remember when him and Jimmy Spencer used to get into and spencer wanted beat his ass a couple of times. Kyle is just a Dick. And like you said, he whines if he doesnt win and blames everyone but the driver! Or runs away, just like after the race when the officials had to drag him to the infieldcare center.
What a little Bitch!! :RantExplode:
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I just have to repeat my last statement. Watching the Chicago race tonight. Busch is such a little bitch, he's trying to blow his car up cause he aint doin so hot.... Just lost a cylinder... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :loser: :fu: :fu: :fu:
Go Mark :boogie: and Kasey :2thumbs:
darn it all these 2nd place finishes for my main man...whats the deal
Quote from: General_01 on July 10, 2009, 10:08:30 AM
Quote from: Shakey on July 10, 2009, 05:58:44 AM
Quote from: General_01 on July 09, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
As expected, Kyle is whining that Tony "dumped" him. What an assclown. :rotz:
http://motorsports.fanhouse.com/2009/07/09/tony-stewart-dumped-me-kyle-busch-says/
.....and if it were Tony Stewart that got spun out, he'd be whining too!
Same stuff every week!
The difference is that Tony would not have driven like Kyle. He had his chance to do that when they came to the white flag. He didn't run up the track to cut Kyle off because he knows what would happen. Kyle is just an idiot who thinks nothing of the consequences. Maybe in a few years he will understand, but right now he is just an idiot who is such a baby that he refuses to talk to the media. Actually, I am guessing that he is under orders from sponsers and Gibbs to not talk to the media after a race unless he wins because he is such a crybaby. When he loses, it's always someone else's fault. Usually "the guys" didn't do the right things to the car. He was probably causing a rift in the team with his attitude.
If Tony would have made that move on Dale Jr., Kevin Harvick, Jeff Burton, Jeff Gordon, JJ, Mark Martin, etc. things would have been different, because those guys would not have tried the second block. They don't drive like idiots.
Let's not forget how Tony used to drive and how he used to whine and cry every Sunday. That wasn't too long ago.
Kyle has raised the bar on being a whiny baby. Tony's early years don't even compare. And at least Tony would talk to the media after races no matter what. He might tell them off, but at least he didn't run and cry in his pillow.
Bad boy Kyle dissed his team again last night. What a loser. :rotz:
Quote from: General_01 on July 12, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Kyle has raised the bar on being a whiny baby. Tony's early years don't even compare. And at least Tony would talk to the media after races no matter what. He might tell them off, but at least he didn't run and cry in his pillow.
Bad boy Kyle dissed his team again last night. What a loser. :rotz:
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everybody hear him trying to blow up leaving his pit stall?
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 13, 2009, 03:35:41 PM
everybody hear him trying to blow up leaving his pit stall?
He messed up a valve spring when he did that. It screwed him right before the end :laugh: My son and his family was in Vegas over the last week and brought me back a M&M shirt......I said you know I don't like Kyle. He said we just thought it was cool. Well now it is real cool :D
Quote from: The70RT on July 13, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 13, 2009, 03:35:41 PM
everybody hear him trying to blow up leaving his pit stall?
He messed up a valve spring when he did that. It screwed him right before the end :laugh: My son and his family was in Vegas over the last week and brought me back a M&M shirt......I said you know I don't like Kyle. He said we just thought it was cool. Well now it is real cool :D
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. The only way id wear it. :2thumbs:
Mayfield just tested positive again for meth, what a loser.
When he won his injunction against NASCAR on 7/6 one of the provisions the judge gave NASCAR was the right to test Mayfield at anytime, they said OK right now. It took Mayfield several hours to get to the test center, claimed he got lost. Now his step mother claims to have seen him use meth multiple times over the past ten years.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Quote from: NHCharger on July 15, 2009, 08:51:13 PM
Mayfield just tested positive again for meth, what a loser.
When he won his injunction against NASCAR on 7/6 one of the provisions the judge gave NASCAR was the right to test Mayfield at anytime, they said OK right now. It took Mayfield several hours to get to the test center, claimed he got lost. Now his step mother claims to have seen him use meth multiple times over the past ten years.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
That's a shame to give it all up for that crap :rotz:
What a deusch. His last remaining employee quit yesturday. Guess he knew it was coming. Didnt he say he was taking aderol and thats why he failed?
I know why he failed, he was on meth!! :slap:
Wow meth?... really? .........that's crazy, you'ld think he would have been a faster driver then. :nono: Oh well I'm sure his 3 fans will be very upset. :lol:
Quote from: 73chgrSE on July 17, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
Wow meth?... really? .........that's crazy, you'ld think he would have been a faster driver then. :nono: Oh well, I'm sure his 3 fans will be very upset. :lol:
Quote from: NHCharger on July 15, 2009, 08:51:13 PM
Mayfield just tested positive again for meth, what a loser.
When he won his injunction against NASCAR on 7/6 one of the provisions the judge gave NASCAR was the right to test Mayfield at anytime, they said OK right now. It took Mayfield several hours to get to the test center, claimed he got lost. Now his step mother claims to have seen him use meth multiple times over the past ten years.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
As convincing as the facts are, I really have a suspicion that not everything is entirely as it seems. I'm not saying the guy is innocent, but something just doesn't seem right about the whole thing.
Ponch, I agree. NASCAR is claiming his urine test was very diluted, apparently he drank a ton of water before the test while lost.
Mayfield now claims his stepmom shot and killed his Dad and he's filing a wrongful death suit against her.
Mayfield does look awful healthy for a meth user, I had one work for me for a month.
Why hasn't Mayfield invited some media people to witness a drug test at an independent lab to clear his name.
I do remember how NASCAR demonized Tim Richmond and he became a social outcast before dying of Aids.
Something's not right in this Mayfield vs: Nascar thing.
Mayfield claims he has had his own tests done, something like a dozen times or so, and they're all negative. But Nascar's tests are both positive. ???? Mayfiled says all his tests were at different labs and that he has the results. Nascar's are both from the same lab.
I"m thinking two things:
#1 - Nascar wants the little guys gone from the series for some reason (look what they did to Carl Long), and Mayfield is just as small time.
#2 - Nascar is looking to have someone to use as an example that their drug policy is working. If, for any reason, someone ever questioned it, Nascar could hold up Mayfield as an example of how well the policy works. He's a little guy, they don't care about the little guy. AND, if say, one of the big stars ever got a postive result, it could be swept away without raising doubts about the testing procedure.
Brian France just makes my sphincter tighten up when he talks and I think Mike Helton does what he's told to do.
I used to be a big Nascar fan, but now.... Sometimes the racing is still very good, and the drivers are the best around, but everything is just too "controlled".
The thing that I don't get is why NASCAR's list of banned substances is not public. For the sake of argument, let's say Mayfield was on meth, but for some far fetched reason meth isn't on that list. So all NASCAR has to do is amend the list and throw meth on there and now he's guilty - in essence the rules are changed after the fact. Aside from the fact that doing meth is incredibly stupid (and especially dangerous for a race car driver), maybe he wasn't breaking the rules at the time. Sort of like how all those baseball players are now saying "yes, I was on steroids but they weren't illegal then".
Let's not forget that NASCAR has a tendency of keeping its rules vague and/or broad to give itself the flexibility of applying them as it pleases ("actions detrimental to stock car racing" :eyes:). Mayfield - who's a field filler at best - tests positive for substance X, he's suspended and essentially railroaded out of the sport. But if Junior tests positive for the same substance, then NASCAR can keep it on the down low, say that it's not a big deall, and let him off with a slap on the wrist.
Quote from: NHCharger on July 17, 2009, 07:09:47 PM
I do remember how NASCAR demonized Tim Richmond and he became a social outcast before dying of Aids.
If you haven't already, read Ed Hinton's "Daytona" book. There's an entire chapter devoted to that. NASCAR did some really low things to try to get him to quit. When they suspended him for a positive drug test, they wouldn't say what it was (AZT), because that would essentially reveal that he had AIDS. So they did the next best thing - they leaked to the press the number of a hospital that Richmond had gone to - and it specialized in AIDS cases.
And so ends another chapter of "As The Roundy-Rounders Turn". :rotz:
Quote from: restoman on July 17, 2009, 07:32:50 PM
Something's not right in this Mayfield vs: Nascar thing.
Mayfield claims he has had his own tests done, something like a dozen times or so, and they're all negative. But Nascar's tests are both positive. ???? Mayfiled says all his tests were at different labs and that he has the results. Nascar's are both from the same lab.
I"m thinking two things:
#1 - Nascar wants the little guys gone from the series for some reason (look what they did to Carl Long), and Mayfield is just as small time.
#2 - Nascar is looking to have someone to use as an example that their drug policy is working. If, for any reason, someone ever questioned it, Nascar could hold up Mayfield as an example of how well the policy works. He's a little guy, they don't care about the little guy. AND, if say, one of the big stars ever got a postive result, it could be swept away without raising doubts about the testing procedure.
Brian France just makes my sphincter tighten up when he talks and I think Mike Helton does what he's told to do.
I used to be a big Nascar fan, but now.... Sometimes the racing is still very good, and the drivers are the best around, but everything is just too "controlled".
this is a very easy thing to find out, what needs to happen is what WWE is doing. Take Jeremy into a room and strip nipples to kness in front of somebody, pee in a cup, split it up into a few samples sent into different laps.
having said that, he is on meth. :slap:
On a different note, it looks like Matt Kenseth will be looking for a new sponsor. DeWalt has said that they will not sponsor him in 2010. Looks like they are pulling out of Nascar because of the hit the construction industry is taking with this economy.
Just saw the driver's children sing the national anthem at Bristol. They did a better job than most of the professional singers.
You do know that is prerecorded in a sound studio. I had to do that back in high school for the Atlanta Richs tree lighting years ago.
Quote from: Landonsrt on August 22, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
You do know that is prerecorded in a sound studio. I had to do that back in high school for the Atlanta Richs tree lighting years ago.
:lol:
Quote from: Landonsrt on August 22, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
You do know that is prerecorded in a sound studio. I had to do that back in high school for the Atlanta Richs tree lighting years ago.
Damn, that's cheating. I was actually in my office reading some news and had the volume up loud enough to hear it so I didn't know they were pulling a Milli Vanilli
Unfortunately cry baby Kyle won :puke:
Only if Martin would have pulled an Earnhardt. But hes too nice of a guy to race that way.
If only mark would have used the missiles hidden under the front splitter ( yes they are VERY small ) then we could have seen him win in his 1,000th start
Quote from: moparnole on August 23, 2009, 11:59:40 AM
If only mark would have used the missiles hidden under the front splitter ( yes they are VERY small ) then we could have seen him win in his 1,000th start
The front bumper would have worked for me. If it was crunch time it would have been different. :scratchchin:
So, Danica Patrick will start racing in Nascar next year part time after all. And sounds like she will be part of Tony Stuart's teams. Although, they did say she might do some ARCA races too.
they did say she might do some ARCA races too.
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Probably not all she's doing :D
She way too overrated. Stewart was the one that said a few months ago on his radio show she should stay where shes at.
I guess no matter what they do in Altanta, it will never sell out! Way too many empty seats.
Tony, or any other owner, would be a fool for not latching on to that media darling.
Talent or not. :Twocents:
Congrats Kasey :coolgleamA:
So with the season nearing the end, Who do You predict ( or want ) to win the cup?
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 11, 2009, 06:11:50 PM
So with the season nearing the end, Who do You predict ( or want ) to win the cup?
Want: Mark Martin
Will: Johnson again.
Tony Stewart. If he gets it back together again. Johnsons crew cheif is pretty creative at cheating so its up in the air!
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 11, 2009, 06:11:50 PM
So with the season nearing the end, Who do You predict ( or want ) to win the cup?
Mark Martin
Mark Martin, pole winner again :2thumbs:
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on September 11, 2009, 06:11:50 PM
So with the season nearing the end, Who do You predict ( or want ) to win the cup?
Would be nice for Mark to win it......but yeah Johnson may prevail.
I agree
I would love to see Mark win it.
Well, Mark got the #1 seat for the chase :2thumbs:
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on September 12, 2009, 11:42:57 PM
Well, Mark got the #1 seat for the chase :2thumbs:
Yeah buddy :yesnod:
And Mark said to watch out for JPM - which I agree with. That boy has been sandbagging a lot to make sure he got in. Kyle out.... Boo-Hoo :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Maybe he will grow up and learn some humility. I think "Jimmy Gordon" will have a tougher road this year. I'd love for Penske to win and stick it up Gillette's butt for going with Ferd.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 13, 2009, 08:07:51 AM
And Mark said to watch out for JPM - which I agree with. That boy has been sandbagging a lot to make sure he got in. Kyle out.... Boo-Hoo :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Maybe he will grow up and learn some humility. I think "Jimmy Gordon" will have a tougher road this year. I'd love for Penske to win and stick it up Gillette's butt for going with Ferd.
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Id love to see martin win but its that time of year that Chad Knaus pulls out his playbook (cheatbook) and starts takin names.
A friend of mine got free race tickets. He wanted to go Sat instead of Sunday so he gave me the Sprint Cup tickets....why? I didn't ask ;D I am in row 62! Yeah there is only 65 rows so I am right near the top and will be able to see the whole track. I am at the south end so I will see the pole position pit stall....Mark got the pole...Im stoked :boogie:
Quote from: The70RT on October 02, 2009, 07:18:14 PM
A friend of mine got free race tickets. He wanted to go Sat instead of Sunday so he gave me the Sprint Cup tickets....why? I didn't ask ;D I am in row 62! Yeah there is only 65 rows so I am right near the top and will be able to see the whole track. I am at the south end so I will see the pole position pit stall....Mark got the pole...Im stoked :boogie:
How cool is that??, Free tickets :2thumbs:
Enjoy the race.
Nascar officially unveiled the new Mustang for the Nationwide series. I like how it looks. I realize there will be critics over it, but after all, most race cars never ever were totally stock looking.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/bg/10/13/ford.mustang.rollout/index.html (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/bg/10/13/ford.mustang.rollout/index.html)
(http://www.muscularmustangs.com/images7/nascar_nationwide_mustang.jpg)
Going to the race tomorrow night, finally got some good seats for a change, GM section just past the start finish line. I better get to see a good burnout! :drive:
Quote from: Chargen69 on October 16, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
Going to the race tomorrow night, finally got some good seats for a change, GM section just past the start finish line. I better get to see a good burnout! :drive:
Cool, I have always wanted to see a race there. I hope you don't see a burnout......because if Mark Martin wins he doesn't do that :icon_smile_big:
WTF! I am watching the Nationwide race now and the 43 Petty car driven by Khane with a retro paint scheme is a FREEKIN Toyota :rotz:
Quote from: The70RT on October 16, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
WTF! I am watching the Nationwide race now and the 43 Petty car driven by Khane with a retro paint scheme is a FREEKIN Toyota :rotz:
Maybe ford will be a 1 year deal, then they will go to Toyota after that, who knows. ::)
Quote from: The70RT on October 16, 2009, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on October 16, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
Going to the race tomorrow night, finally got some good seats for a change, GM section just past the start finish line. I better get to see a good burnout! :drive:
Cool, I have always wanted to see a race there. I hope you don't see a burnout......because if Mark Martin wins he doesn't do that :icon_smile_big:
True, I'm pulling for him too
BLASPHEMY!
Cut them loose NOW Moparino!
Sadler in a Ford at Talladega: Richard Petty Motorsports driver Elliott Sadler will drive a [#19] Yates Racing Ford in next weekend's Sprint Cup race at Talladega Superspeedway. Sadler, who drove for Robert Yates Racing before moving to RPM, said it will be for only one race. RPM and Yates are in the final stages of a merger that will move RPM from Dodge to Ford in 2010. RPM owner Richard Petty said last week at Charlotte he hoped to use a Yates car for at least one race this season. Officials close to the situation said on Friday at Martinsville Speedway the plan is to put Sadler in the Ford regardless of whether the merger is finalized.(ESPN)(10-23-2009)
Like I stated above, Khane ran a Toyota in the 43 car last weekend. I guess better a Ford than Toyota. I bet Dodge will be gone altogether soon :'(
I watched that. Hate to say it but you wont see many Chevy guys do that when they race in the other series.
I guess when the factory support goes away the go where the the money is. I didn't use to care for stewart but when he said F Toyota I commended him for that, then leave and start from scratch.
Quote from: The70RT on October 23, 2009, 09:59:26 PM
Like I stated above, Khane ran a Toyota in the 43 car last weekend. I guess better a Ford than Toyota. I bet Dodge will be gone altogether soon :'(
Well, Dodge did already announce they are in it for next year again.
Well stewart didnt really start from scratch considering all his engines come from hendrick and so did his crew chief, and funding.
True :2thumbs:
New Challenger to be run in Nationwide series next year. Maybe cup in 2011.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/bg/10/31/dodge.challenger.nationwide.series/index.html
Cup qualifying rained out. I bet all the wing car guys aren't having too good of time :-\
You beat me to it. I was going to post this too, lol. Looks good though. Did you see the posts at the bottom of that artical. Sounds like GM decieded not to run the new Camero. I think that will bite them back.
(http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2010/nationwide/images/12-verizon-nose.jpg)
(http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2010/nationwide/images/12-verizon-side.jpg)
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on October 31, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
You beat me to it. I was going to post this too, lol. Looks good though. Did you see the posts at the bottom of that artical. Sounds like GM decieded not to run the new Camero. I think that will bite them back.
Camaro and Mustang. Probably doesn't matter. You know they did the wind tunnel test and are cookie cutters anyway. The sides look like the current and past cars. Real headlights lights and a recessed grill? Im sure the real deal will be smoothed over with a decal.
my favorite driver of all time. goes to show you how awesome that car really is.
sorry Dick Brooks
Quote from: The70RT on October 31, 2009, 07:11:43 PM
The sides look like the current and past cars. Real headlights lights and a recessed grill? Im sure the real deal will be smoothed over with a decal.
I have to agree. There is no way they would run a recessed grill.
I guess Mark Martin will never get a break :brickwall: That Keselowski does it again :slap:
Newmans wreck was :o. Glad he was OK. Looked like Tony let off the gas going into the corner so he wouldn't be in the bumper of the car ahead and Newman didn't realize until to late. I am watching the Vikes play Green Bay, so I didn't watch McMurray's victory speech or see the points shuffle yet. I will check later.
Quote from: General_01 on November 01, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Newmans wreck was :o. Glad he was OK. Looked like Tony let off the gas going into the corner so he wouldn't be in the bumper of the car ahead and Newman didn't realize until to late. I am watching the Vikes play Green Bay, so I didn't watch McMurray's victory speech or see the points shuffle yet. I will check later.
I mean the last lap....Martin got turned over :brickwall:
Quote from: The70RT on November 01, 2009, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: General_01 on November 01, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Newmans wreck was :o. Glad he was OK. Looked like Tony let off the gas going into the corner so he wouldn't be in the bumper of the car ahead and Newman didn't realize until to late. I am watching the Vikes play Green Bay, so I didn't watch McMurray's victory speech or see the points shuffle yet. I will check later.
I mean the last lap....Martin got turned over :brickwall:
I know. I saw it. They showed him taking his helmet off getting ready to get out, so i knew he was all right. Bad break for him. The announcers thought Keselowski was getting pushed from behind so he couldn't do anything about it. Not sure. I did not see the replay.
That race pretty much sealed the championship for Johnson again too :RantExplode:
I'm loosing intrest in ASSCAR cause I still believe Hendrick is being let go by running more Hp then everyone else. Plus now their taking the "racing" out of the sport. Rubbing IS racing where I come from. I also don't wanna watch another year of the Jimmy Johnson show. I probably wont even watch the Sprint Cup cars the rest of the year now, or for a long time again. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
I'll watch the Nationwide series and trucks and ARCA from now on.
Quote from: Wi. Charger Guy on November 01, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
I'll watch the Nationwide series and trucks and ARCA from now on.
Truck series is the best of the big three...but that's just my opinion
I don't think hendrick gets more hp than anyone else. I just think knaus knows how to cheat better than anyone else! He needs to get busted again. :brickwall:
Quote from: General_01 on November 01, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Newmans wreck was :o. Glad he was OK. Looked like Tony let off the gas going into the corner so he wouldn't be in the bumper of the car ahead and Newman didn't realize until to late. I am watching the Vikes play Green Bay, so I didn't watch McMurray's victory speech or see the points shuffle yet. I will check later.
Newmans wreck was real bad. I was starting to get nervous since you could not see him moving around inside and no radio communication right away.
wow...what i wild race today...all i got to see was the reel because i had work...but man alive...newman's wreck...what a landing...man if he hadn't have come down on harvicks (at least thats who i think its was) hood we might be looking at a different story
Quote from: Foreman72 on November 01, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
wow...what i wild race today...all i got to see was the reel because i had work...but man alive...newman's wreck...what a landing...man if he hadn't have come down on harvicks (at least thats who i think its was) hood we might be looking at a different story
I hear ya. Just before the race Newman was saying, I say goodbye to my wife before the race....well not actually goodbye....you know what I mean. I said out loud, man don't say that :P
Quote from: Foreman72 on November 01, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
wow...what i wild race today...all i got to see was the reel because i had work...but man alive...newman's wreck...what a landing...man if he hadn't have come down on harvicks (at least thats who i think its was) hood we might be looking at a different story
I also have to give Elliot Sadler credit for juming on the brakes as hard as he did. He was heading right for Ryan as he was sliding upside down across the track and he locked them up.
If you missed it, it is worth a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8BljwffrGc
Good thing there wasn't a fire. :o
Well, Danica Patrick officially signs with Dale Jr. Motorsports. She will race No. 7 in a limited Nationwide schedule in 2010.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/bg/12/08/dpatrick.to.nascar.jrmotorsports/index.html (http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/bg/12/08/dpatrick.to.nascar.jrmotorsports/index.html)
PHOENIX -- At last, the long-awaited announcement is official -- Go Daddy is taking Danica Patrick to the Nationwide Series in 2010.
Danica will drive the No. 7 GoDaddy.com Chevrolet in a partial Nationwide schedule next season, plus one ARCA race. The Go Daddy Girl will be racing as a member of the JR Motorsports team owned by Dale Earnhardt Jr., Rick Hendrick, Kelley Earnhardt and Tony Eury Jr. through 2011.
Patrick"It's been a long time coming, but the stars finally aligned for me with Go Daddy and JRM," Danica said just before making her announcement. "I have always said I love to drive, and if I could make it work to race in both IndyCar and NASCAR -- with the right sponsor, like GoDaddy.com and the right team, like JRM -- then I'd love to drive in NASCAR!" More in the link.
(http://jayski.com/schemes/2010/nationwide/images/7-godaddy-1.jpg)
Good for her! I hope she does well.
Im officially done with NASCAR. They may as well rename it the Jimmie johnson cup. Anything else happens, I dont care. She's not that good of a driver. Shes only won 1 race. Another publicity stunt to keep interest in the sport. Anyone notice how they dont show the stands that much anymore during the race?? Thats because they are half empty.
I agree Shakey, and I hope your right but the last Woman who raced in Nascar (I can't remember her name) but she drove a Dodge, never did any good and (ironically) wrecked DEJ one time... :lol:
Mike Wallace's daughter raced in Nationwide in the last race or so.
There was also Shawna Robinson in the late '80's/early '90's, and Janet Guthrie in the 1970's.
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 08, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
I agree Shakey, and I hope your right but the last Woman who raced in Nascar (I can't remember her name) but she drove a Dodge, never did any good and (ironically) wrecked DEJ one time... :lol:
Are you thinking about the girl who drove in the Busch Series a few years ago? She is now married to Ray Evernham...she used to drive for him...
Her name escapes me at this point
Quote from: A383Wing on December 09, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 08, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
I agree Shakey, and I hope your right but the last Woman who raced in Nascar (I can't remember her name) but she drove a Dodge, never did any good and (ironically) wrecked DEJ one time... :lol:
Are you thinking about the girl who drove in the Busch Series a few years ago? She is now married to Ray Evernham...she used to drive for him...
Her name escapes me at this point
Erin Crocker.....
Quote from: The70RT on December 09, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on December 09, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 08, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
I agree Shakey, and I hope your right but the last Woman who raced in Nascar (I can't remember her name) but she drove a Dodge, never did any good and (ironically) wrecked DEJ one time... :lol:
Are you thinking about the girl who drove in the Busch Series a few years ago? She is now married to Ray Evernham...she used to drive for him...
Her name escapes me at this point
Erin Crocker.....
Yup...that's her...she couldn't drive for shit...now she's just a toy for Ray
Didnt she actually make it to cup for a few races back in like 03 or 04?
Quote from: Landonsrt on December 09, 2009, 10:58:58 PM
Didnt she actually make it to cup for a few races back in like 03 or 04?
I think just Busch (then)? but she crashed almost everytime. I think she finished decent in some ARCA races.
I still don't remember her name, but she definitly raced in the cup series she was even featured in Mopar Muscle Magazine years ago. Instead of "Gentlemen, start your engines" he would say "Gentlemen and lady"...
I think she was a Mom, definitly raced a Dodge, I must find out her name...was it back in 03 or 04? that long ago?
It was Shawna Robinson I was thinking of :yesnod: been awhile since she raced in cup races am I right about her driving a Dodge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Robinson
Quote from: Landonsrt on December 08, 2009, 10:36:03 PM
Anyone notice how they dont show the stands that much anymore during the race?? Thats because they are half empty.
That is true. The last year or two have been like that. I think part of it is economy. Some of the ticket prices are expensive. Also, some do not like the fact they are all driving the same car with the COT, and some hate that Toyota came into the sport.
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 10, 2009, 01:29:04 AM
It was Shawna Robinson I was thinking of :yesnod: been awhile since she raced in cup races am I right about her driving a Dodge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Robinson
Nope. She drove Chevy's. At least she was when I met her.
I thought it was Robinson! I remember them saying the lady and gentlemen thing. Its good that she tried but she wasnt very good. You can either blame it on the talent or the equipment.
I know they have been saying for the last several years that Atlanta is going to loose one of its races due to horrid ticket sales. they took out the stands at the far side of the track after the tornado destroyed half of them and they still cant sell out! And they still expect to sell Champions (start/finish) for like $130 plus!
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 10, 2009, 10:59:13 AM
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 10, 2009, 01:29:04 AM
It was Shawna Robinson I was thinking of :yesnod: been awhile since she raced in cup races am I right about her driving a Dodge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Robinson
Nope. She drove Chevy's. At least she was when I met her.
She drove the BAM #49 Dodge for a season or so about 5-6 years ago.
Danica in NASCAR = FAIL.
Look at all the accomplished open wheelers that have tried NASCAR in recent years. Franchitti (Indy Champ) lasted less than a season. Sam Hornish - mediocre at best after 3 years. Scott Speed - jury still out, but so far nothing to write home about. About the only two drivers that have made the transition succesfuly are Tony Stewart and Montoya. Still, Stewart was a sprint dirt tracker before he was in the IRL and Montoya (say what you will about his personality and funny english) is on tier of talent far above most drivers. I don't think NASCAR drivers are more talented than Indy drivers, or Vice Versa...but technology has made the cars so specialized that it takes an exceptional amount of talent to make the transition. Danica does not have that kind of talent.
Of course, Danica, Dale Jr., Hendrick, their sponsors, and NASCAR will get a lot of publicity and make boat loads of $...and thats what its all about.
Quote from: Ponch ® on December 10, 2009, 07:28:03 PM
Danica does not have that kind of talent.
Of course, Danica, Dale Jr., Hendrick, their sponsors, and NASCAR will get a lot of publicity and make boat loads of $...and thats what its all about.
I completely agree. Its all publicity for the sport. Wasnt Franchitti fired for fighting with his crew cheif?? Stewart is an exception to the rule because he can drive just about anything and do well. I am still undecided about montoya. He has shown several times this last year that if something goes wrong, its someone else fault. Just like Kyle Busch showed his ass! Its always the team or the other drivers on the tracks fault. Never his!
Quote from: mikesbbody on December 10, 2009, 01:29:04 AM
It was Shawna Robinson I was thinking of :yesnod: been awhile since she raced in cup races am I right about her driving a Dodge? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Robinson
FACT:
In the 2001 season she finished worse than Dale Earnhardt (57th vs 66th). That has to be an ego buster.
I dont understands why they kept him on the points list since he died in the first race of the year..
:icon_smile_dissapprove: Sucks for us Wisconsin people.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-milwaukeemile-future&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-milwaukeemile-future&prov=ap&type=lgns)
WEST ALLIS, Wis. (AP)—The Milwaukee Mile will fall mostly silent in 2010.
After months of negotiations with four potential promoters for the financially troubled racetrack failed to reach the finish line, the Wisconsin State Fair Park board of directors announced Wednesday that the track will not host any major racing events in 2010.
The track, which dates back to 1903, has hosted NASCAR and Indy Racing League races in recent years.
In a statement, board officials said the potential promoter it negotiated with most recently was not moving forward because the track's margin for profitability was "too thin."
The board said the track will continue to host car clubs and driving schools next year, and officials will continue to search for a promoter to bring major events back in 2011.
What type of Nascar event had they held. Arca or some lower series?
For a lot of years, they had the Nationwide cars, and the trucks the same weekend in July. I went to a Grand National (then Busch series, now Nationwide) race back in 1978 there. I don't remember if ARCA ever ran here. I know USAC did a long time ago (late '60's early '70's).
Road America takes over Milwaukee Nationwide race :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-roadamerica&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-roadamerica&prov=ap&type=lgns)
ELKHART LAKE, Wis. (AP)—NASCAR's Nationwide series will stay in Wisconsin next year, shifting its race next year to Road America from the financially troubled Milwaukee Mile.
The twisting road course in central Wisconsin will host a Nationwide race on Saturday, June 19.
That replaces the Milwaukee Mile, which will not host major racing events in 2010. The Wisconsin State Fair Park board of directors, which oversees the Milwaukee track, has been unable to make a deal with a new promoter but still hopes to bring major events back there in 2011.
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 22, 2009, 01:21:47 AM
Road America takes over Milwaukee Nationwide race :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-roadamerica&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-roadamerica&prov=ap&type=lgns)
The twisting road course in central Wisconsin will host a Nationwide race on Saturday, June 19th.
Yea. . . another road course. :eek2:
I just saw on Speed, that this year at the first Martiansville race, Nascar is getting rid of the rear wings, and going back to the traditional rear spoiler on the cars.
The #26 car and team of Roush's , and car owner points was sold of to a new team out of Oregon. Didn't say anything about McMurry if he was still going to be in the car.
Ricky Stenhouse is the new driver for the #6 car this year.
It was weird seeing Dale Jr. with a big 'ol bushy beard too :lol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 13, 2010, 07:41:15 PM
The #26 car and team of Roush's , and car owner points was sold of to a new team out of Oregon. Didn't say anything about McMurry if he was still going to be in the car.
McMurry signed to drive Martin Truex's old #1 car a couple months ago.
I imagine the only reason they are getting rid of the wing at Martinsville is the cost effectiveness. It doesnt do anything to help the cars on short tracks like there and Bristol. Maybe they have another reason, I didnt see any of the speed pre season stuff yet.
They are talking about getting rid of the wing altogether. They have had several more accidents where the cars are going airborne. Carl Edwards and Ryan Newman had a big one each this last season. When they get turned around and the roof flaps go up, the wing is lifting them up and over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn_qRThRg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlytg1bYI0
Quote from: Landonsrt on January 14, 2010, 07:44:23 AM
I imagine the only reason they are getting rid of the wing at Martinsville is the cost effectiveness.
You hit it right on the head. Least that is what they said last night.
I saw this on "NASCAR Race Hub" at 6:30pm central time on Speed. It's on 4 days a week. Not sure about Friday nights.
I can understand removing them on Superspeedways for safety issues. Acts like a launch ramp in reverse. But on short tracks, cost issue. Those things are several thousands of dollars and hitting someone in the rear and knocking it off.... Theres no point because they do not cause enough downforce... just as well to have a lip spoiler.
We just had an ACR Viper in here that the dealer bought. Carbon Fiber front splitter---$10,000.00 It will most likely be the first thing damaged on that car....
And it might be gone in time for Daytona. They had meeting with every single Cup driver individually within the last couple weeks asking their opinion about the wing. From what I have read, most if not all wanted it gone.
NASCAR Says Rear Spoilers, Yellow Lines, "No Bumping Zones" May Disappear In 2010: NASCAR's Managing Director Corporate Communications, Ramsey Poston, said Friday that the sanctioning body is investigating the possibility of replacing rear wings with old-style rear spoilers in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, in time for the start of the 2010 Daytona 500. However, Poston told Sirius NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with Dave Moody that the change has nothing to do with cars becoming airborne during high speed crashes at the circuits two superspeedways; Daytona and Talladega. "We took a car to the wind tunnel after last year's fall race at Talladega and recreated Ryan Newman's crash to as high a degree as possible," he said. "Those tests showed beyond any doubt that the rear wing had no effect on the way that race car took off. With that said, we talked to 14 different drivers at the NASCAR Technical Center yesterday [Thursday], and all 14 of them were in favor of going back to rear spoilers as a way of increasing downforce and improving competition. As a result of the input we have received from those drivers, and others, I think it's safe to say that we are taking a very serious look at the possibility of reintroducing rear spoilers for the 2010 season." If NASCAR elects to move forward with the change, Poston said the sanctioning body will wind-tunnel test the package almost immediately, before scheduling an on-track test session prior to the start of SpeedWeek 2010. Poston said NASCAR has met with every track operator since the end of last season, along with drivers, owners, crewchiefs and even media partners in an effort to determine what might be done to improve competition, and that the rear wing/spoiler is only one item on the list. "If it helps us improve competition, we will move forward with it," said Poston. "There are other changes that we will announce during the annual Media Tour that I think will be welcomed by everyone; drivers, crewchiefs, team owners and especially fans."
Poston revealed that NASCAR is likely to loosen the reins on drivers next season, saying, "We're going to let the drivers drive." While declining to give specifics prior to the official announcement, it is expected that NASCAR will eliminate the controversial "no bumping zones" at superspeedways, and possibly even the rule prohibiting drivers from racing below a yellow line at the bottom of the banking at both Daytona and Talladega.(Sirius Speedway)(1-9-2010)
OK, heres another question..... If they are taking the wing off for competition reasons, does that mean they are going to take the new restrictor plate off to bring back horsepower???? I mean, below the yellow line, bump drafting in the corners... They are really trying to get interest back in the sport..
I dont thing we will ever see the restrictor plate go away. The cars would be running 225 if not faster on the big tracks. There would definatly in time, be a car in the stands. I dont even wanna see that.
No, I meant the restrictor plate they put on last year to decrease the power in the COT. That's what bunched all the cars together and made for some sorry racing.
I.E. fall talladega race.
Quote from: Landonsrt on January 14, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
No, I meant the restrictor plate they put on last year to decrease the power in the COT. That's what bunched all the cars together and made for some sorry racing.
I.E. fall talladega race.
From what I heard they are changing the plate again. I guess it is going to be bigger this time around?
NASCAR finally figured out why people were loosing intrest in the sport, and is going back to the "rubbing is racing" rules. More bump drafting, more aggression from the drivers, the biggest restrictor plates since 1989, rear spoilers instead of wings. This is a good read!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-2010changes&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-2010changes&prov=ap&type=lgns)
"There's an age old saying that NASCAR, 'If you ain't rubbing, you ain't racing,"' NASCAR president Mike Helton said Thursday. "I think that's what the NASCAR fan, the NASCAR stakeholders all bought into, and all expect."
The first change will be evident when the season opens next month at Daytona International Speedway, where restrictions on bump-drafting will be lifted and horsepower will be increased by the use of the largest restrictor plate since 1989.
"We will put it back in the hands of drivers, and we will say 'Boys, have at it and have a good time,"' vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said Thursday.
The yellow out-of-bounds line that circles the bottom of those two tracks will remain, and Pemberton said the majority of drivers did not want that removed.
Well, I guess Ill have to watch and see how this one turns out. I thought they were so concerned with wrecking each other... They didnt want someone getting killed like Earnhardt did blocking and bump drafting.
I guess the ratings are more important than the drivers lives...
Not complaining, just stating the obvious. Should make for some better racing....
Well, it is how they races in the 60's and 70's though too.
I have a feeling that the first time one of these guys get rubbed they're going to take it personally and push back to hard.
BBD
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on January 22, 2010, 01:02:16 PM
I have a feeling that the first time one of these guys get rubbed they're going to take it personally and push back to hard.
BBD
That's how Kyle Busch always drives. So, it's nothing new, lol.
YEAH, then when someone does it to him he whines like a little BITCH and says NASCAR lets others get away with anything.
Or he runs away from the cameras crying cause he didnt win....
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 21, 2010, 06:31:07 PM
NASCAR finally figured out why people were loosing intrest in the sport, and is going back to the "rubbing is racing" rules. More bump drafting, more aggression from the drivers, the biggest restrictor plates since 1989, rear spoilers instead of wings. This is a good read!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-2010changes&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-2010changes&prov=ap&type=lgns)
"There's an age old saying that NASCAR, 'If you ain't rubbing, you ain't racing,"' NASCAR president Mike Helton said Thursday. "I think that's what the NASCAR fan, the NASCAR stakeholders all bought into, and all expect."
The first change will be evident when the season opens next month at Daytona International Speedway, where restrictions on bump-drafting will be lifted and horsepower will be increased by the use of the largest restrictor plate since 1989.
"We will put it back in the hands of drivers, and we will say 'Boys, have at it and have a good time,"' vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said Thursday.
The yellow out-of-bounds line that circles the bottom of those two tracks will remain, and Pemberton said the majority of drivers did not want that removed.
I like what NASCAR is doing with this. Put it back in the driver's hands. Up until this year, anytime there was a wreck at Daytona or Talladega, the drivers would get out of their cars and say something like "it's the position NASCAR puts us in with these rules...blah blah". I think drivers will be more cautious now and smarter about making certain moves now that they can't blame the rules for causing a wreck. Sure, there will still be drivers making bonehead moves that cause wrecks, but the other drivers will teach him a lesson the next week.
Quote from: Landonsrt on January 22, 2010, 02:56:19 PM
YEAH, then when someone does it to him he whines like a little BITCH and says NASCAR lets others get away with anything.
Or he runs away from the cameras crying cause he didnt win....
I find it rather entertaining when he whines :lol:
I just saw on tv, I guess they are hoping by next year to loose the carburators, and are going to adapt to fuel injection.
That's just a bigger expense for the smaller teams.... it'll make start up easier when they stall them..
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 26, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
I just saw on tv, I guess they are hoping by next year to loose the carburators, and are going to adapt to fuel injection.
The manufacturers are the ones pushing for this change.
Bud Shootout practice today on Speed at 5:00pm and 6:30pm ET. They will also have practice tomorrow too. Then the Bud Shootout is Saturday night.
Congrats: #18-Kyle Busch proposed to his girlfriend Samantha Sarcinella on Tuesday and she said yes, no wedding date has been set yet.(2-5-2010)Jayski.com
You have to be kidding. If that toad worked at Hardees he could not even get a date with his hand and a bottle of Jergens lotion. It is all about the cash.
:lol: :lol: :cheers:
I 100% agree! I was just talking to someone at work and we were saying the exact same thing. He looks like the dufus from Grandmas Boy. But a bigger PUSSY!!
:lol: :P
That was a great race.
Good to see Mcmurry win one. :2thumbs:
Too bad about all the potholes.
For a minute I thought Jr. was going to get it. He came from 10th to 2nd in one lap. Not a bad race except for the long pothole delays.
Good race. I think after the race they wanted to interview anyone not hit by Denny Hamlin. They couldn't find anyone. :shruggy:
QuoteI like what NASCAR is doing with this. Put it back in the driver's hands. Up until this year, anytime there was a wreck at Daytona or Talladega, the drivers would get out of their cars and say something like "it's the position NASCAR puts us in with these rules...blah blah". I think drivers will be more cautious now and smarter about making certain moves now that they can't blame the rules for causing a wreck. Sure, there will still be drivers making bonehead moves that cause wrecks, but the other drivers will teach him a lesson the next week.
I agree to an extent.
But IMHO they've been addressing the wrong end of the driving problems for decades. If they want more aggression and screwing around from the drivers then they need to make the consequences less dire for every mistake.
Vehicle weight, wheelbase length, tire sizes, downforce, restrictor plates . . . everything about the modern NASCAR removes any margin for error in the driving style. Hold the car granite-smooth and you'll be fine, but one little twitch and the car unrecoverably goes into the wall.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 05, 2010, 10:15:41 PM
Congrats: #18-Kyle Busch proposed to his girlfriend Samantha Sarcinella on Tuesday and she said yes, no wedding date has been set yet.(2-5-2010)Jayski.com
You have to be kidding. If that toad worked at Hardees he could not even get a date with his hand and a bottle of Jergens lotion. It is all about the cash.
Ahh, c'mon. I guess that means it's all about her brains & personality for him. :icon_smile_wink:
Those last two laps made the long delay worth it. Another half a lap, Jr would have won. I had the Directv hotpass for the race is jrs car and thought it was a good chance until they came out of turn 4. He lost momentum. Still a great ending!
I was happy Jamie McMurray won the race. I always liked him. :cheers: :2thumbs:
I guess Keslowski won't be bumping people too much for a while anyways. Guess he learned the hard way that paybacks are a bitch.
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
I guess Keslowski won't be bumping people too much for a while anyways. Guess he learned the hard way that paybacks are a bitch.
I always thought Edwards was a ass, now he proved it. I heard he was a ass behind the cameras too by a trusted source. I never yet seen Keslowski do any bad driving to spin someone out. Not on purpose anyway.
Either way, it takes a bigger man to just walk away from something and forget about it, then it does to retaliate.
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 07, 2010, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
I guess Keslowski won't be bumping people too much for a while anyways. Guess he learned the hard way that paybacks are a bitch.
I always thought Edwards was a ass, now he proved it. I heard he was a ass behind the cameras too by a trusted source. I never yet seen Keslowski do any bad driving to spin someone out. Not on purpose anyway.
Either way, it takes a bigger man to just walk away from something and forget about it, then it does to retaliate.
Made Earnhardt a 7 time champion. :D
I think Carl was just trying to spin him through the grass. I think Carl felt a few incidents with Keslowski was more than coincidence. Right or wrong, paybacks are a part of the sport. If you don't think so, than you don't know Nascar.
BK looked like (to me) he held his line in the first incident. If Edwards really thought he was wronged by that he should have waited until Bristol instead of risking life and injury to drivers and fans. He is an ass - is a Jekyl and Hyde type personality. I thought it was cool when he came virtually out of nowhere Cup-wise and won that first race in Atlanta but his f'd up mindset came through many times - I saw that whole Kenseth deal while at Martinsville. Then you have the Junior thing in victory lane and the confrontation with Harvick and probably some others I have forgotten. I like Nascar's "Let the drivers police each other" old school philosophy but if that was an NHL game the police would have been called.
I will say that at least he wasn't a puss like half the drivers out there and try to deny what he did. He came right out and said he did it and why. It's in Nascar's hand now. Guess we will see if they like the drivers policing themselves. If it's any consolation, I am sure Keselowski will find him sometime, probably when Carl is having a great day and his day is shot.
P.S.-If anyone saw them interview Carl after the incident and didn't think he was pissed, you don't know how to read people. He just wasn't going to say anything and get parked for the rest of the day.That way he could get back on the track and do what he did.
He was biting his tongue HARD! :P
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 07, 2010, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
I guess Keslowski won't be bumping people too much for a while anyways. Guess he learned the hard way that paybacks are a bitch.
I always thought Edwards was a ass, now he proved it. I heard he was a ass behind the cameras too by a trusted source. I never yet seen Keslowski do any bad driving to spin someone out. Not on purpose anyway.
Either way, it takes a bigger man to just walk away from something and forget about it, then it does to retaliate.
edwards is from columbia missouri and clint boyer is from emporia kansas , both are considered kansas city area home town drivers .
well with all the media local clint is alway the best guy and does everything to promote the sport with the locals Carl and his management team are asses and very difficult to deal with .
So i root for clint as our home town guy . :Twocents:
WOW go kurt bush great win for DODGE with only one Dodge owner now
Sorry, that was just plain low down and dirty.
Reminded me a lot of Geoff Bodine and his stunts.
I'm a big fan of bumping and banging on the tracks and pay-backs are a given. But to bang someone in the quarter on a straightaway at 190+ mph is stupid. Cousin Carl is a very good driver and has enough experience to know that the #12 wasn't simply going to spin, he was gonna get turned around.
I'd say Carl wasn't really biting his tongue as much as he was silently thanking his lucky stars that Keselowski walked away.
He never said during his interveiw that he did it on purpose - he carefully skirted answering that question, leaving people to draw their own conclusions.
We all did. :)
Admitting guilt on TV would make Nascar really throw the book at him, just to save face.
Keselowski handled his end of the interveiw with some class, I thought.
I like Carl but he took it too far this time. Keslowski is no angel, he has been banging people around since he started. Too bad he's in a Dodge.
Quote from: restoman on March 07, 2010, 08:57:30 PM
Sorry, that was just plain low down and dirty.
Reminded me a lot of Geoff Bodine and his stunts.
I'm a big fan of bumping and banging on the tracks and pay-backs are a given. But to bang someone in the quarter on a straightaway at 190+ mph is stupid. Cousin Carl is a very good driver and has enough experience to know that the #12 wasn't simply going to spin, he was gonna get turned around.
I'd say Carl wasn't really biting his tongue as much as he was silently thanking his lucky stars that Keselowski walked away.
He never said during his interveiw that he did it on purpose - he carefully skirted answering that question, leaving people to draw their own conclusions.
We all did. :)
Admitting guilt on TV would make Nascar really throw the book at him, just to save face.
Keselowski handled his end of the interveiw with some class, I thought.
True - but we were saying the tongue biting was after the first one - even though jaw flapping after that one wouldn't have resulted in a park job, If he was more vocal after the first one it would have added more fuel to the fire (to Nascar) after the big one.
I think Keselowski sits in front of his mirror and practices his "It wasn't my fault"speech quite a bit. :rofl:
I think if Keselowski had not gone airbourne, this topic would not be so big. It would be all about "When is Brad gonna get him back". If you watch the replay, the roof flaps deployed and the car still went airbourne. This is actually a bigger deal to me then Carl/Brad's deal. The same thing would have happened if it was a "racing deal". The car would have went airbourne. Nascar did a lot of testing and redesigning in the off season to prevent this after Newmans ride last year and it seems it did not help. That is the bigger question that came from this incident. Nascar needs to address that question.
Everyone seems to think (guess/hope) the old spoiler will take car of all this airborne stuff. I think it may help but it never helped Sadler, Wallace etc. I know the instances were rarer with the spoiler.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 07, 2010, 09:32:59 PM
Everyone seems to think (guess/hope) the old spoiler will take car of all this airborne stuff. I think it may help but it never helped Sadler, Wallace etc. I know the instances were rarer with the spoiler.
If you listen to the talking heads, they all think the spoiler change that's coming up is the answer. :shruggy:
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on March 07, 2010, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 07, 2010, 09:32:59 PM
Everyone seems to think (guess/hope) the old spoiler will take car of all this airborne stuff. I think it may help but it never helped Sadler, Wallace etc. I know the instances were rarer with the spoiler.
If you listen to the talking heads..... :shruggy:
The band? :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 08:27:07 PM
I will say that at least he wasn't a puss like half the drivers out there and try to deny what he did. He came right out and said he did it and why. It's in Nascar's hand now. Guess we will see if they like the drivers policing themselves. If it's any consolation, I am sure Keselowski will find him sometime, probably when Carl is having a great day and his day is shot.
P.S.-If anyone saw them interview Carl after the incident and didn't think he was pissed, you don't know how to read people. He just wasn't going to say anything and get parked for the rest of the day.That way he could get back on the track and do what he did.
Yea, I could read him. It is one thing that I have, the ability to read people very good.
Its called being a bully and a attitude of "you don't deserve to run with the big boys so take that".
If you can intimidate the other drivers to stay away from you and get out of your way its a lot easier to win a race.
Edwards almost wiped out a corner or two earlier trying to get a fender on BK but couldn't quite get to him.
I hope NASCAR throws the book at him but will probably go easy since its CE.
Honestly I think NASCAR should park his butt for at least three races.
In the end I'm betting probation for the rest of the year, loss of 50 driver points and a 100,000 fine.
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 09:27:21 PM
I think if Keselowski had not gone airbourne, this topic would not be so big.
I agree, if Brad went spinning through the grass, it would be know big deal, and we would not be discussing the situation. But he did go airborne. While I do not like Brad at all, I do think Carl made a stupid decision. With the speeds at Atlanta, the chances of the bump resulting in something bad was great. The guy should have waited a race or two. Bristol would have been a good spot as speeds are not nearly what they are at Atlanta.
As a side note, anyone else notice how empty the stands were? Would have not been like that five years ago.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 08, 2010, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: General_01 on March 07, 2010, 09:27:21 PM
I think if Keselowski had not gone airbourne, this topic would not be so big.
I agree, if Brad went spinning through the grass, it would be know big deal, and we would not be discussing the situation. But he did go airborne. While I do not like Brad at all, I do think Carl made a stupid decision. With the speeds at Atlanta, the chances of the bump resulting in something bad was great. The guy should have waited a race or two. Bristol would have been a good spot as speeds are not nearly what they are at Atlanta.
As a side note, anyone else notice how empty the stands were? Would have not been like that five years ago.
It seems like they advertise tickets all the way up to racetime now. Before you couldn't get any.
Keselowski must be fuming. :RantExplode:
Carl got probation for 3 races.
Let the beatin' an bangin' begin boys. :D
Eddy Haskell will step on his own d*ck sooner or later!
I doubt it. He'll stay cool for a while. He made his point. I am just waiting for Hamlin to put Keselowski in the wall now that Nascar gave the OK. :icon_smile_big:
Hamlin has a lot more issues than worrying about BK. :yesnod:
Quote from: General_01 on March 09, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
I doubt it. He'll stay cool for a while. He made his point. I am just waiting for Hamlin to put Keselowski in the wall now that Nascar gave the OK. :icon_smile_big:
Bristol should be interesting. :)
Don't be too sure about Hamlin doing the punting tho'. Keselowski strikes me as a very smart and capable driver, he may be up to the challenge. :popcrn:
Its open season for retaliation now.
This shoud boost the ratings.
That daggone Jimmie Johnson. He's unstoppable. Congratulations you son of a bitch! That's 50. Tied for 10th all time. Chad Knaus is the smartest man in NASCAR. Yeah, I said it. :2thumbs:
Junior finished 7th. :2thumbs:
Tons of empty seats people are tired of seeing Jimmie Win. I used to love Nascar cannot stand it anymore
You know, I was thinking about the empty seats thing today too. I'm wondering if it's not so much that everyone is watching their budget, tickets too expensive, etc....
But you are right, tons of empty seats. DW still tried to make it sound like they were full but only 100K out of 165K. That's a huge gap IMO.
Quote from: JT01 on March 21, 2010, 03:45:02 PM
Tons of empty seats people are tired of seeing Jimmie Win.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
I am starting to watch the races now just to see him hopfully get crashed out :P
Damn arrogent ass :eek2:
Yeah all it is will Jimmie win or not. You use to be on a waiting list to get Bristol tickets. :-\
Not sure if anyone saw the bad wreck in the Legends race in Bristol. It involved Charlie Glotzbach and Larry Pearson. Both guys were injured.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGsrdQfLSz8
Taken from Jayski.
UPDATE: Hours later, Jim Wozniak, a Welmont Health System spokesman, said Pearson would undergo surgery on a compound fracture of the left ankle, and that he suffered a fractured pelvis and fractured right hand. "He is awake and alert, and in good spirits," Wozniak said of Pearson, who was listed in fair condition late Saturday night. Wozniak also said that Glotzbach was in good condition, but provided no further details regarding his injuries.(Bristol Herakd Courier)(3-21-2010)
UPDATE 2: Larry Pearson and Charlie Glotzbach, injured in the Showdown charity race at Bristol Motor Speedway Saturday, remain hospitalized Monday at Bristol Regional Medical Center. Their conditions are unchanged. Pearson is in fair condition and Glotzbach is in good condition.(BMS)(3-22-2010)
UPDATE3: Larry Pearson has been released from Bristol Regional Medical Center as of late Monday afternoon, March 22. Pearson was transported and will be admitted into Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte, NC, according to his family. Charlie Glotzbach remains hospitalized Monday at Bristol Regional Medical Center. Glotzbach remains in good condition. The two drivers were injured last Saturday in the Showdown charity race at Bristol Motor Speedway Saturday.(BMS)(3-22-2010)
I saw it live and the video too. I didn't post it because of the injuries.
I saw this on Nascar Hub tonight.
It has been confirmed but not made official yet, but Kasey Kane will be going to Hendrick next year. There still is no word on who it may be that he is replacing yet. But Mark Martian and Jeff Gorden are on top of the list. Jeff Gordan has publically said he is thinking about retiring for the past two years. Mark Martian will be 52yo this year.
Kasey is going to Stewart-Haas next year and then will most likely take Mark Martin's #5 in 2012. Mark Martin is signed through 2011.
Quote from: General_01 on April 13, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
Kasey is going to Stewart-Haas next year and then will most likely take Mark Martin's #5 in 2012. Mark Martin is signed through 2011.
Dont know where you heard that one. It has been confirmed by Hendrick motor sports.
It is probably a good bet he will be with Stuart in 2011 as a stop gap until HMS in 2012 because he will be gone from Petty at the end of this season. Since SHR is a "sattelite" team for HMS anyway and they have room for 4 there.
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 14, 2010, 05:48:29 AM
Quote from: General_01 on April 13, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
Kasey is going to Stewart-Haas next year and then will most likely take Mark Martin's #5 in 2012. Mark Martin is signed through 2011.
Dont know where you heard that one. It has been confirmed by Hendrick motor sports.
I read that too on Jayski. Looks like Stewart Haas Racing next year then over to Hendrick. Or Martin will change his mind on retiring for the tenth time and Kasey will end up at Stewart Haas for years.
Kahne to Hendrick in 2012 UPDATE 2011?: #9-Kasey Kahne, the hottest potential free agent in NASCAR entering the season, has signed a multiyear agreement to join Hendrick Motorsports in 2011, multiple sources close to negotiations confirmed to ESPN.com Tuesday. The details of the deal, such as which car Kahne will drive, are still being finalized, sources said. The prevailing thought is Kahne will occupy the #5 car currently driven by Mark Martin, sources said. Martin signed a contract extension last year through the 2011 season. There is room for Martin and Kahne in the Hendrick family. Stewart Haas Racing receives chassis, engines and technical support from HMS. So Kahne could be housed there until Martin's contract was up, if necessary. In 2008 Dale Earnhardt Jr. signed a five-year deal with Hendrick. Jimmie Johnson last year signed an extension through 2015, and Jeff Gordon has a lifetime contract. Kahne is in the final year of his contract with Richard Petty Motorsports, and plans to finish the season in the #9 Ford, sources said. It is unknown whether Kahne's sponsor, Budweiser, will accompany him to HMS [which sponsored Hendrick's #25 Chevy for years]. Hendrick Motorsports officials had no comment. Calls placed to Kahne, who turned 30 last weekend, and to his agent were not returned.(ESPN)
Johnson just won his fifth championship in a row. I have just watched my last NASCAR race (actually only watched the last 30 laps).
As much as I wanted anybody but Jimmy to win I will still watch next year. Just think next year half the talk will be about Jimmy The other half will be Commercials. :slap:
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 21, 2010, 04:44:56 PM
As much as I wanted anybody but Jimmy to win I will still watch next year. Just think next year half the talk will be about Jimmy The other half will be Commercials. :slap:
It was a tough decision on who to go for...Johnson - no, don't want him to catch Richard Petty. Hamlin.... - no, Toyota. Harvick.... don't really care for him so :brickwall:
Chad Knaus is God. That is all.
BTW, I'm not a 48 fan.
Still Bill Elliot.
anybody, anybody ANYBODY but Hamlin... I think I would have rathered Kyle Bush win the title than him, oh and he got what he deserve for messing with Harvick. Nobody bumps on harvick that long without getting some back.
harvick ran him off and said "thats what you get" :smilielol: loved it. newman was racing his but off and johnson had to back off for a while afraid he was gona tangle. :2thumbs: loved that too. and johnson didnt want to let edwards celebrate. im not an edwards fan, but gotta let him celebrate.
Quote from: The70RT on November 21, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 21, 2010, 04:44:56 PM
As much as I wanted anybody but Jimmy to win I will still watch next year. Just think next year half the talk will be about Jimmy The other half will be Commercials. :slap:
It was a tough decision on who to go for...Johnson - no, don't want him to catch Richard Petty. Hamlin.... - no, Toyota. Harvick.... don't really care for him so :brickwall:
call me blasphemous...but i think Petty's legend is overhyped. Yeah yeah...I know, he drove MOPARS, so we're supposed to put him on a pedestal and can't say anything negative about him. But people tend to forget that "in the good old days" the fields weren't that deep and most of the time he was really racing against one or two other guys (Richard Pearson and Cale Yarborough) that had the resources to compete with him. Petty Enterprises was Hendrick Motorsports, Joe Gibbs Racing, RCR, and Roush all rolled up into one back in it's day - they had all the money and people to dominate. That's why when the likes of Earnhardt, Waltrip, Richmond came along and other teams got big sponsor $ in the late 70's and early 80's, he stopped winning.
Whatever you want to give the credit to - Chad Knaus, Hendrick's resources, or Johnson himself, winning 5 titles in a row in this era is next to impossible. Even at 3 titles, that was already more impressive than Petty's seven.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: The70RT on November 21, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 21, 2010, 04:44:56 PM
As much as I wanted anybody but Jimmy to win I will still watch next year. Just think next year half the talk will be about Jimmy The other half will be Commercials. :slap:
It was a tough decision on who to go for...Johnson - no, don't want him to catch Richard Petty. Hamlin.... - no, Toyota. Harvick.... don't really care for him so :brickwall:
call me blasphemous...but i think Petty's legend is overhyped. Yeah yeah...I know, he drove MOPARS, so we're supposed to put him on a pedestal and can't say anything negative about him. But people tend to forget that "in the good old days" the fields weren't that deep and most of the time he was really racing against one or two other guys (Richard Pearson and Cale Yarborough) that had the resources to compete with him. Petty Enterprises was Hendrick Motorsports, Joe Gibbs Racing, RCR, and Roush all rolled up into one back in it's day - they had all the money and people to dominate. That's why when the likes of Earnhardt, Waltrip, Richmond came along and other teams got big sponsor $ in the late 70's and early 80's, he stopped winning.
Whatever you want to give the credit to - Chad Knaus, Hendrick's resources, or Johnson himself, winning 5 titles in a row in this era is next to impossible. Even at 3 titles, that was already more impressive than Petty's seven.
with out the chase bull sh#T it would have never happened
Quote from: moparstuart on November 22, 2010, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: The70RT on November 21, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 21, 2010, 04:44:56 PM
As much as I wanted anybody but Jimmy to win I will still watch next year. Just think next year half the talk will be about Jimmy The other half will be Commercials. :slap:
It was a tough decision on who to go for...Johnson - no, don't want him to catch Richard Petty. Hamlin.... - no, Toyota. Harvick.... don't really care for him so :brickwall:
call me blasphemous...but i think Petty's legend is overhyped. Yeah yeah...I know, he drove MOPARS, so we're supposed to put him on a pedestal and can't say anything negative about him. But people tend to forget that "in the good old days" the fields weren't that deep and most of the time he was really racing against one or two other guys (Richard Pearson and Cale Yarborough) that had the resources to compete with him. Petty Enterprises was Hendrick Motorsports, Joe Gibbs Racing, RCR, and Roush all rolled up into one back in it's day - they had all the money and people to dominate. That's why when the likes of Earnhardt, Waltrip, Richmond came along and other teams got big sponsor $ in the late 70's and early 80's, he stopped winning.
Whatever you want to give the credit to - Chad Knaus, Hendrick's resources, or Johnson himself, winning 5 titles in a row in this era is next to impossible. Even at 3 titles, that was already more impressive than Petty's seven.
with out the chase bull sh#T it would have never happened
It's hard to say, because it would change the way drivers raced earlier in the season. But either way, you could argue that the Chase makes it even harder for someone to win the title, because instead of having one or two guys running away with it by August, it puts 12 guys on more or less even footing. So you have to beat 12 guys, not just one or two.
But if we're going to be putting things in that context, then you could argue that Petty also won a bunch of titles before the so called "Modern Era", when they had a wacky points system based on money won and race lenghts and ran a bunch of races a year (over 60, IIRC) that not all drivers showed up to regularly.
AND under a Chase-less format, Gordon would have 6 titles by now. ;D
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
AND under a Chase-less format, Gordon would have 6 titles by now. ;D
Didn't realize you were a closet Gordon fan ;)
Wonder how many titles Petty would have won under the chase format :scratchchin:
Your right about the old days. At times they would have two races a week. 50-60 races a year, no private jets, no power steering, no cooling helmets, you helped work on the car.
Brian France is doing a great job of ruining NASCAR. :rotz:
Quote from: NHCharger on November 22, 2010, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
AND under a Chase-less format, Gordon would have 6 titles by now. ;D
Didn't realize you were a closet Gordon fan ;)
Wonder how many titles Petty would have won under the chase format :scratchchin:
Your right about the old days. At times they would have two races a week. 50-60 races a year, no private jets, no power steering, no cooling helmets, you helped work on the car.
I don't know if I'm a closet fan...I am a Gordon fan period. I'm admittedly one of those people that got pulled in to the NASCAR craze during the mid-90's, thanks in part to the exposure Gordon was getting at the time. Plus, like Jimmie, he's from Cali.
I stopped watching many years ago now... But I guess if you were not around for the Glory Days as I was lucky enough to be, It might be entertaining... :shruggy:
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
I stopped watching many years ago now... But I guess if you were not around for the Glory Days as I was lucky enough to be, It might be entertaining... :shruggy:
Yes, the glory days...when races had exciting finishes and the leader would finish 3 laps ahead of 2nd place. I've watched some of that stuff on NASCAR Classics and whatnot...other than the cars looking cool, it was boring as hell.
Kids! :shruggy:
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 05:58:47 PM
Kids! :shruggy:
Then again, you old folks also think Jimmy Buffet and Steely Dan are the ro0x0or.
the WHAT?.. :shruggy:
Maybe I should say "Ehh?" :smilielol:
Alas - Watching a bunch of guys just riding around worrying about points until the contrived 10 race play-off.
Racers race - not ride around.
F the championship - I want to see everyone racing for the win - race by race.
Even Tony Stewart has transformed into the Vanilla PC world the majority are in.
I loved all the decades but this chase crap and the spec Iroc cars has sucked the life right out of a once great sport. Can you say WWE?
The cars are so much easier to drive then they were back then. Petty also won 27 races in 1967. Im just sick of Johnson, Gordon and Kyle Busch. What fun is it to see the same thing year after year. Im sure the ratings will go down some more now. You can even get Bristol tickets now, before it was years on a waiting list.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
I stopped watching many years ago now... But I guess if you were not around for the Glory Days as I was lucky enough to be, It might be entertaining... :shruggy:
Yes, the glory days...when races had exciting finishes and the leader would finish 3 laps ahead of 2nd place. I've watched some of that stuff on NASCAR Classics and whatnot...other than the cars looking cool, it was boring as hell.
So how is the Guy winning five Champs in a row any different?.. And while were skinning that tomato, how are the cars any different, excluding decals. :shruggy:
Not to mention that the engines they ran at least were based on production ones. I agree they have been getting away from being a "stock" car since the late 60's but they were so much closer then than today. A manufacturer brought what he had to the table and hoped it was good enough.
And when was the last time you saw an independant?
Quote from: NHCharger on November 22, 2010, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
AND under a Chase-less format, Gordon would have 6 titles by now. ;D
Didn't realize you were a closet Gordon fan ;)
Wonder how many titles Petty would have won under the chase format :scratchchin:
Your right about the old days. At times they would have two races a week. 50-60 races a year, no private jets, no power steering, no cooling helmets, you helped work on the car.
http://jayski.com/teams/chase2010.htm#75-03
Still 7 (you can only do modern era so his first 5 are hard to gauge).
Quote from: The70RT on November 22, 2010, 07:14:21 PM
The cars are so much easier to drive then they were back then. Petty also won 27 races in 1967. Im just sick of Johnson, Gordon and Kyle Busch. What fun is it to see the same thing year after year. Im sure the ratings will go down some more now. You can even get Bristol tickets now, before it was years on a waiting list.
:2thumbs: you watch a race and all they show is where jimmy,jeff or jr. are at. then the race is over. if those three arent in the top 5 they ignore the others to talk to a guy that finished 15th. i seen others get a flat and have to fight back to the lead lap, but let jimmy or jeff have a flat, and you will hear about it for the rest of the race.
I'm gonna start selling merchandise that says...."Anyone But Johnson"
i will buy a shirt :smilielol:
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
I stopped watching many years ago now... But I guess if you were not around for the Glory Days as I was lucky enough to be, It might be entertaining... :shruggy:
Yes, the glory days...when races had exciting finishes and the leader would finish 3 laps ahead of 2nd place. I've watched some of that stuff on NASCAR Classics and whatnot...other than the cars looking cool, it was boring as hell.
So how is the Guy winning five Champs in a row any different?.. And while were skinning that tomato, how are the cars any different, excluding decals. :shruggy:
It's different because he's doing it in a time where there is a lot of parity in the competition. Instead of having 1-2 guys that have a realistic shot at winning the race, now you have 15-20.
I see a big complaint is that the cars are all the same - which is a valid gripe. I dont like it either. It's a bad thing if you're a fan of either one of the brands, but strictly from a racing standpoint, it makes the racing better. The argument that nowadays it's all car and not the driver is almost counterintuitive. Think about it - in the "glory days" if you drove the car model that was aero friendly, you already had a huge advantage. Throw in all the engineering and horsepower that money could buy you (if you were a big team like Petty or the Wood Bros), and that's how you ended up with Petty and Pearson finishing 1-2 in every race. So maybe the cars were all "harder to drive" than they are now, but they were hard for everyone. It's pretty ironic that most American race fans don't like/get Formula One, because it's closer to how NASCAR was back then - you pretty much know two races into the season who's going to win most of the races because they built the better car.
Having all the current NASCAR cars be the same puts more emphasis on the driver and on how the car is set up. Even if you're pouring a ton of money into your cars, you don't have that huge an advantage over the other guys. The difference between the pole sitter and 43rd place in qualifying this weekend was less than half a second (.4),
And then there's the "it's like the WWE" argument - because all cars are the same, or phantom cautions, or a driver allegedly getting preferential treatment. I don't see how the so called "glory days" were any less WWE - it's well documented that certain teams would get "the call" that the inspectors weren't going to be as thorough as usual, or get a slap in the wrist for things like having an oversized engine (*cough* Petty *cough*). And the next time someone wants to accuse Chad Knaus of being a cheater, look up Smokey Yunick...though for some reason he's remembered as some sort of outlaw genius instead of the cheater he was.
I'm not in any way trying to make NASCAR today as the greatest thing...there are a lot of things I don't like. If you think it sucks, that's your opinion and maybe you're right...but don't make it sound as if it was any better in some idyllic past. If anything it sucked more...
I think Smokey Yunick being remembered as an outlaw genius instead of a cheater likely depends on what kind of Chevy fan you are. Innovative? Yes, but he was laughably illegal some of the time. The Banana Chevelle comes to mind.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 23, 2010, 01:41:50 AM
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on November 22, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
I stopped watching many years ago now... But I guess if you were not around for the Glory Days as I was lucky enough to be, It might be entertaining... :shruggy:
Yes, the glory days...when races had exciting finishes and the leader would finish 3 laps ahead of 2nd place. I've watched some of that stuff on NASCAR Classics and whatnot...other than the cars looking cool, it was boring as hell.
So how is the Guy winning five Champs in a row any different?.. And while were skinning that tomato, how are the cars any different, excluding decals. :shruggy:
It's different because he's doing it in a time where there is a lot of parity in the competition. Instead of having 1-2 guys that have a realistic shot at winning the race, now you have 15-20.
I see a big complaint is that the cars are all the same - which is a valid gripe. I dont like it either. It's a bad thing if you're a fan of either one of the brands, but strictly from a racing standpoint, it makes the racing better. The argument that nowadays it's all car and not the driver is almost counterintuitive. Think about it - in the "glory days" if you drove the car model that was aero friendly, you already had a huge advantage. Throw in all the engineering and horsepower that money could buy you (if you were a big team like Petty or the Wood Bros), and that's how you ended up with Petty and Pearson finishing 1-2 in every race. So maybe the cars were all "harder to drive" than they are now, but they were hard for everyone. It's pretty ironic that most American race fans don't like/get Formula One, because it's closer to how NASCAR was back then - you pretty much know two races into the season who's going to win most of the races because they built the better car.
Having all the current NASCAR cars be the same puts more emphasis on the driver and on how the car is set up. Even if you're pouring a ton of money into your cars, you don't have that huge an advantage over the other guys. The difference between the pole sitter and 43rd place in qualifying this weekend was less than half a second (.4),
And then there's the "it's like the WWE" argument - because all cars are the same, or phantom cautions, or a driver allegedly getting preferential treatment. I don't see how the so called "glory days" were any less WWE - it's well documented that certain teams would get "the call" that the inspectors weren't going to be as thorough as usual, or get a slap in the wrist for things like having an oversized engine (*cough* Petty *cough*). And the next time someone wants to accuse Chad Knaus of being a cheater, look up Smokey Yunick...though for some reason he's remembered as some sort of outlaw genius instead of the cheater he was.
I'm not in any way trying to make NASCAR today as the greatest thing...there are a lot of things I don't like. If you think it sucks, that's your opinion and maybe you're right...but don't make it sound as if it was any better in some idyllic past. If anything it sucked more...
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Not really at all - :scratchchin:
2010 - 13 diff winners
2009 - 13 " "
2008 - 11 " "
2000 - 14 " "
1990 - 14 " "
1985 - 12 " "
1980 - 10 " "
1975 - 8 " "
1970 - 12 " "
1965 - 11" "
For me, back in the day is the 80's-90's. That is when there seemed to be some parity, difference in cars, more leeway for teams to make the cars run, and less "team" and more single car teams. Going to this "IROC" like field and the Chase format and 4 car teams is just ridiculous. JJ being allowed to swap an entire pit crew with his teamate mid race was just hypocrisy at it's best. NASCAR wants to call it a team sport, but you can change your team in the middle of a race because you don't like how your team is performing? And don't tell me it's fair. Robby Gordon doesn't have 4 teams running and can switch with his other 3 teamates out there. Even RCR waited until mid week between races to swap Burton and Harvicks team.
If I remember right, they changed to the Chase format because Matt Kenseth won the Championship with one win. Now we go to the same guy winning it 5 years straight. I understand why people refer to it as WWE on wheels.
Quote from: The70RT on November 23, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
Not really at all - :scratchchin:
2010 - 13 diff winners
2009 - 13 " "
2008 - 11 " "
2000 - 14 " "
1990 - 14 " "
1985 - 12 " "
1980 - 10 " "
1975 - 8 " "
1970 - 12 " "
1965 - 11" "
What about all the other years? And really we're only looking at 1965-1985 if we're talking about the Good Ol Days. Thats 5 years out of 25. 65 doesn't really apply there either because that's when they were running 60-65 races...
Quote from: General_01 on November 23, 2010, 11:39:07 AM
For me, back in the day is the 80's-90's. That is when there seemed to be some parity, difference in cars, more leeway for teams to make the cars run, and less "team" and more single car teams. Going to this "IROC" like field and the Chase format and 4 car teams is just ridiculous. JJ being allowed to swap an entire pit crew with his teamate mid race was just hypocrisy at it's best. NASCAR wants to call it a team sport, but you can change your team in the middle of a race because you don't like how your team is performing? And don't tell me it's fair. Robby Gordon doesn't have 4 teams running and can switch with his other 3 teamates out there. Even RCR waited until mid week between races to swap Burton and Harvicks team.
If I remember right, they changed to the Chase format because Matt Kenseth won the Championship with one win. Now we go to the same guy winning it 5 years straight. I understand why people refer to it as WWE on wheels.
You can pull your quaterback in the middle of a game (unless he's Favre, evidently). Hell, you can pull the entire defensive unit if you want (though that happens as often as changing an entire pit crew mid race). It's no different really...
there is one point with that too, you can start a race feeling a little under the weather or have a sore foot,and another driver can get in and drive the race and you still get the points. so as much as i didnt like that pit crew thing either, its not much diff than changing the driver. :2thumbs:
I thought the whole changing the crew around for one race is stupid.. They constantly keep running 13-17 second pit stops but one string of mistakes, it's the end of the world!! What about talladega or daytona? One mistake by one driver can ruin 100s of peoples day... But do they swap drivers?? Nope!
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 23, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
I thought the whole changing the crew around for one race is stupid.. They constantly keep running 13-17 second pit stops but one string of mistakes, it's the end of the world!! What about talladega or daytona? One mistake by one driver can ruin 100s of peoples day... But do they swap drivers?? Nope!
In this case though, the #48 crew had been underperforming for a while now. The #24 had been one of the best throughout the season, so with Gordon out of the race and out of the Chase, it made sense to switch them. It's really not all that different from other sports - like trading a good player from a losing team to a good team right before the trade deadline in order to get better for the playoffs, or calling up a player from the minors.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 23, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 23, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
I thought the whole changing the crew around for one race is stupid.. They constantly keep running 13-17 second pit stops but one string of mistakes, it's the end of the world!! What about talladega or daytona? One mistake by one driver can ruin 100s of peoples day... But do they swap drivers?? Nope!
In this case though, the #48 crew had been underperforming for a while now. The #24 had been one of the best throughout the season, so with Gordon out of the race and out of the Chase, it made sense to switch them. It's really not all that different from other sports - like trading a good player from a losing team to a good team right before the trade deadline in order to get better for the playoffs, or calling up a player from the minors.
How is it the same as other sports? You can pull your QB and put in "his" back up, a guy on "your" roster. I would akin that to pulling the crew chief and putting the car chief in charge. You can pull the entire defense and change them out with the 2nd string from the "same" team or trade for better players during the week. You can't have a receiver play for your team just because his team has a bye week. I guess I just don't get your logic Ponch.
P.S.- I live in Minneapolis and happen to agree with playing Favre. You guys have not seen Tarvarus. The only reason he is still around is because Childress didn't want to admit he was wrong picking him. The guy is not starting QB material.
Quote from: General_01 on November 23, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 23, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 23, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
I thought the whole changing the crew around for one race is stupid.. They constantly keep running 13-17 second pit stops but one string of mistakes, it's the end of the world!! What about talladega or daytona? One mistake by one driver can ruin 100s of peoples day... But do they swap drivers?? Nope!
In this case though, the #48 crew had been underperforming for a while now. The #24 had been one of the best throughout the season, so with Gordon out of the race and out of the Chase, it made sense to switch them. It's really not all that different from other sports - like trading a good player from a losing team to a good team right before the trade deadline in order to get better for the playoffs, or calling up a player from the minors.
How is it the same as other sports? You can pull your QB and put in "his" back up, a guy on "your" roster. I would akin that to pulling the crew chief and putting the car chief in charge. You can pull the entire defense and change them out with the 2nd string from the "same" team or trade for better players during the week. You can't have a receiver play for your team just because his team has a bye week. I guess I just don't get your logic Ponch.
Actually it happens all the time...teams that share minor league affiliates in a variety of sports might do that...and even the Vikings had Randy Moss for what...two games? Maybe it's hard to find an exact parallel in a stick n ball sport, but the point is that it's really not that big of a deal.
I guess I will agree to disagree.
3 of 4 crew chiefs being shuffled at HMS - Not Chad.
From Jayski...
New crew chiefs for Gordon, Martin & Earnhardt Jr.: Hendrick Motorsports has made personnel adjustments in preparation for the 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season, with drivers Mark Martin, Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt Jr. being teamed with new crew chiefs. Below are the driver-crew chief pairings for each Hendrick Motorsports car, effective immediately:
#5 Chevy, driver: Mark Martin, Crew Chief: Lance McGrew
#24 Chevy, driver: Jeff Gordon; Crew Chief: Alan Gustafson
#48 Chevy, driver: Jimmie Johnson; Crew Chief: Chad Knaus
#88 Chevy, driver: Dale Earnhardt Jr.; Crew Chief: Steve Letarte
The cars of Martin and four-time Sprint Cup champion Gordon will be fielded out of the same facility, now known as the 5/24 shop. Earnhardt Jr.'s Chevys will be prepared out of the renamed 48/88 shop alongside those of five-time and defending Cup champion Jimmie Johnson. "This will improve us as an organization, across the board," said Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports. "We had a championship season (in 2010), but we weren't where we wanted and needed to be with all four teams. We've made the right adjustments, and I'm excited to go racing with this lineup."
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 23, 2010, 09:15:34 PM
3 of 4 crew chiefs being shuffled at HMS - Not Chad.
From Jayski...
New crew chiefs for Gordon, Martin & Earnhardt Jr.: Hendrick Motorsports has made personnel adjustments in preparation for the 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season, with drivers Mark Martin, Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt Jr. being teamed with new crew chiefs. Below are the driver-crew chief pairings for each Hendrick Motorsports car, effective immediately:
#5 Chevy, driver: Mark Martin, Crew Chief: Lance McGrew
#24 Chevy, driver: Jeff Gordon; Crew Chief: Alan Gustafson
#48 Chevy, driver: Jimmie Johnson; Crew Chief: Chad Knaus
#88 Chevy, driver: Dale Earnhardt Jr.; Crew Chief: Steve Letarte
The cars of Martin and four-time Sprint Cup champion Gordon will be fielded out of the same facility, now known as the 5/24 shop. Earnhardt Jr.'s Chevys will be prepared out of the renamed 48/88 shop alongside those of five-time and defending Cup champion Jimmie Johnson. "This will improve us as an organization, across the board," said Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports. "We had a championship season (in 2010), but we weren't where we wanted and needed to be with all four teams. We've made the right adjustments, and I'm excited to go racing with this lineup."
Looks like maybe a last ditch effort for jr :scratchchin: From what I hear he has trouble communicating to the crew chief on what the car is doing
I agree - Gordon needed a change as well. Plus - Notice the shops 48/88 and 5/24.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 24, 2010, 07:40:06 AM
I agree - Gordon needed a change as well. Plus - Notice the shops 48/88 and 5/24.
I would like to see Martin get it before he leaves but I doubt that would happen. My nephew was a a hotel in Indiana a couple days ago and he said he seen a Hendrix Kasey Khane car hauler with the number #5 car already :scratchchin:
wow...that's a pretty extreme move. But it's not really a bad idea. Gustafson is a hell of a crew chief and should pair up well with Gordon, and Martin/McGrew have worked together in the past, IIRC. Junior...well, Junior is Junior. We'll see. Looking back, maybe Hendrick shouldn't have let Darian Grubb move over to Stewart's team and put him in charge of the 88 or 24. The only thing that could have a negative effect is the shuffling of how the teams are paired up...
As much as I like Dale Jr for whatever reason. I just don't see him being the driver that everyone expects him to be. I hope he proves me wrong next year.
Until Bill E really retires, he's still my favorite driver.
I really hope Junior can come on next year.
I don't watch much anymore and the final race was the most of a race I watched all year. I could tell something was up with Jimmie and Jeff. Doesn't seem like Jeff likes him anymore. Reminds me of the Days of Thunder movie. :yesnod:
Is Michael Waltrip still driving? ;D
I still like jr. Even though he's been sucking since he left DEI. I listen to his in car audio during most races and he will flat out cuss lance mcgrew for everything. Adjusting tire pressure or wedge adjustments that don't go right for him. He never does that with his spotter. I just don't think he cares for lance.
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 24, 2010, 05:17:22 PM
I still like jr. Even though he's been sucking since he left DEI. I listen to his in car audio during most races and he will flat out cuss lance mcgrew for everything. Adjusting tire pressure or wedge adjustments that don't go right for him. He never does that with his spotter. I just don't think he cares for lance.
only since he left DEI?
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 24, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
wow...that's a pretty extreme move. But it's not really a bad idea. Gustafson is a hell of a crew chief and should pair up well with Gordon, and Martin/McGrew have worked together in the past, IIRC. Junior...well, Junior is Junior. We'll see. Looking back, maybe Hendrick shouldn't have let Darian Grubb move over to Stewart's team and put him in charge of the 88 or 24.
I agree with everything this man said.
Quote from: mikepmcs on November 24, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
As much as I like Dale Jr for whatever reason. I just don't see him being the driver that everyone expects him to be. I hope he proves me wrong next year.
Is Michael Waltrip still driving? ;D
I like Jr., and would like to see him do well, but I do not see him really doing much. I think if he was going to have a breakout year, he would have done something by now.
Michael ran a very limited schedule this year. Maybe six races.
Well, before Tony sr stepped down from being his crew chief and before they swapped all of his winning cars with waltrips crap....
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 24, 2010, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 24, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
wow...that's a pretty extreme move. But it's not really a bad idea. Gustafson is a hell of a crew chief and should pair up well with Gordon, and Martin/McGrew have worked together in the past, IIRC. Junior...well, Junior is Junior. We'll see. Looking back, maybe Hendrick shouldn't have let Darian Grubb move over to Stewart's team and put him in charge of the 88 or 24.
I agree with everything this man said.
Quote from: mikepmcs on November 24, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
As much as I like Dale Jr for whatever reason. I just don't see him being the driver that everyone expects him to be. I hope he proves me wrong next year.
Is Michael Waltrip still driving? ;D
I like Jr., and would like to see him do well, but I do not see him really doing much. I think if he was going to have a breakout year, he would have done something by now.
Michael ran a very limited schedule this year. Maybe six races.
MW seems like a very likable and charismatic guy (at least on TV), but the last 4-5 years he was racing full time, either with DEI or his own team, he was stinking up the joint big time. I wonder if NAPA or whoever it was forced his hand at finally getting out of the car and putting a younger driver in.
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 24, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
Well, before Tony sr stepped down from being his crew chief and before they swapped all of his winning cars with waltrips crap....
so...like 2004? Sad but true that he's been sucking for so long now...
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 24, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 24, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
Well, before Tony sr stepped down from being his crew chief and before they swapped all of his winning cars with waltrips crap....
so...like 2004? Sad but true that he's been sucking for so long now...
Yeah, unfortunately. There was a rumor that evernham might go back to hendrick as a crew chief. It would be great if it were for Dale jr. But that'll never happen.
Quote from: The70RT on November 24, 2010, 10:59:47 AM
I would like to see Martin get it before he leaves but I doubt that would happen. My nephew was a a hotel in Indiana a couple days ago and he said he seen a Hendrix Kasey Khane car hauler with the number #5 car already :scratchchin:
I wonder why that is. Martin's still the driver for another year before Kenny Francis & Kane take over.
Quote from: Landonsrt on November 24, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
Yeah, unfortunately. There was a rumor that evernham might go back to hendrick as a crew chief. It would be great if it were for Dale jr. But that'll never happen.
All his recent interviews say he wants nothing to do with being a crew chief again. It sounds like he wants some kind of consultant role.
saw this on the awards show last night...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmJGqDPWnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grmJGqDPWnI)
pretty funny
I saw that when they played it at the end of the last race of the season. I laughed just because I thought it was stupid, lol.
It was pretty entertaining...... Damn jimmy Johnson.
I'm selling my jj autographed stuff dirt cheap.....
First time I saw that clip.
Thats funny. :smilielol: :smilielol:
BREAKING NEWS:
NASCAR ADDS WILD CARD ELEMENT TO SETTING THE CHASE FIELD; SIMPLIFIES POINTS SYSTEM
NASCAR announced Wednesday that it has added a wild card element to setting the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup field and it has simplified its points system for 2011, making it easier for fans, competitors and the industry to understand.
While the 12-driver Chase field remains intact, the final two spots will be determined by the number of wins during the first 26 races.
Visit NASCAR.COM for full story
And another news alert from the world of NASCAR. Mark Martin will not be retiring after this year. I think Mark has announced his retirement more than Bret Favre.
Mark Martin not finished after this year: Mark Martin may be in the final year of his NASCAR Sprint Cup contract with Hendrick Motorsports, but don't count him out of racing. Wednesday at the Hendrick Motorsports shop, Martin erased any doubt that he could be racing in 2012. "I'm absolutely, without a doubt, going to be driving race cars next year, just not going to be in any hurry to worry about that," he said. "I'm focused on 2011 and really enjoying being a part of Hendrick Motorsports." Asked further about the issue later, he said that it was too early to be even thinking in that direction and that it would be better to approach him about what he'll be racing, and for whom, late in the season.(Fox Sports)(1-27-2011)
Well, he actually never officially said he was going to retire. When he left the first time, he said he was just taking a break for a while, but even then he ran in the trucks on and off.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on January 27, 2011, 08:39:04 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
NASCAR ADDS WILD CARD ELEMENT TO SETTING THE CHASE FIELD; SIMPLIFIES POINTS SYSTEM
NASCAR announced Wednesday that it has added a wild card element to setting the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup field and it has simplified its points system for 2011, making it easier for fans, competitors and the industry to understand.
While the 12-driver Chase field remains intact, the final two spots will be determined by the number of wins during the first 26 races.
Visit NASCAR.COM for full story
I just saw that too. I like the idea. It was always a PITA to watch a race late in the season or just before the chase cut off, and trying to figure out what driver was getting how many points. Now its simpler. The only thing is that now one bad day can really f up your season. I would have liked to see 35th-43rd get the same number of points (8?), that way a bad finish doesn't hurt as much and it keeps guys from trying to get back on the track in a slow, trashed car because he'll get more points if he finishes 38th instead of 42nd.
Still not enough points for winning. All that France F-Up cares about is his totally stupid play-off.
The % difference between 1'st and second on is worse now than it already was.
I want each race to stand up on its own.....everyone trying to win - not riding around for points.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 27, 2011, 12:16:09 PM
Still not enough points for winning. All that France F-Up cares about is his totally stupid play-off.
The % difference between 1'st and second on is worse now than it already was.
I want each race to stand up on its own.....everyone trying to win - not riding around for points.
It's a fine line between making winning a race more important but not making it too important. The problem is that you don't want a guy who regularly runs in the middle of the pack but lucks into winning a race by staying out on a rain shortened race to back into the Chase over a guy that's been running consistently better all year.
I hate to say it but as long as jj has knaus, it's all his to win. He can ride around or win. I don't want to see him pass petty and Earnhardt. But he's almost there......... :brickwall:
Quote from: Landonsrt on January 27, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
I hate to say it but as long as jj has knaus, it's all his to win. He can ride around or win. I don't want to see him pass petty and Earnhardt. But he's almost there......... :brickwall:
I agree, it is Jimmies to lose. And I do not see anyone getting in their way this season either.
cant wait for the new season to start. i am a huge NASCAR FAN. my guy is kurt bush. been a bush fan since his rookie year. but until someone can out perform jimmie and jack. they will be unstopable. but racing is so much more than the championship. i do vegas and the fall race in atlanta every year. its the 3 daze of tailgateing i love. we have a great group that meets at the track every year. we fly in from all over the country and canada and just have the best time. racing fans are some of the best. plus met many drivers and jr. johnson and all have been really nice people. nascar is about the fan. unlike other sports. but wish nascar who claims to be all about AMERICA could find someone good to sing the national athem. it seems every week they get some crappy person. but the fly over always ROCKS. SO GENTLEMEN START YOUR ENGINES. speed week starts soon. :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
there was a commercial on the other day and they said that they were changing the point system this year. "jimmy johnson automatically wins and the season is run to see who gets second". im ready to see jimmy fall. im a ryan newman, tony stewart team fan, but newman has my main vote.
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 27, 2011, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 27, 2011, 12:16:09 PM
Still not enough points for winning. All that France F-Up cares about is his totally stupid play-off.
The % difference between 1'st and second on is worse now than it already was.
I want each race to stand up on its own.....everyone trying to win - not riding around for points.
It's a fine line between making winning a race more important but not making it too important. The problem is that you don't want a guy who regularly runs in the middle of the pack but lucks into winning a race by staying out on a rain shortened race to back into the Chase over a guy that's been running consistently better all year.
My point was - F the chase - It is the stupidest thought to come out of BZF's alledged brain ever.
Who cares about the championship.....Let them all try and win and just see how exciting each race will become.....even snoozefests like Fontana, Chicago etc. etc.
What used to be the most exciting form of auto racing (to me) has morphed into a version of the WWE.
BZF is trying to make it a stick and ball sport......It Ain't. What other play-off system allows all the teams to hang around and play?
I'll watch but I will now PVR them so I don't waste any more precious days of Summer up here!
I RECORD EVERY RACE CAUSE I CAMP ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND FROM APRIL TILL NOV. I WATCH IT SUNDAY NIGHT AND FASTFORWARD THROUGH THE PRELIM STUFF AND COMMERCIALS. I AGREE, IM NOT WASTING MY LIFE AWAY ANYMORE PLANTING MY BUTT IN A CHAIR WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE. BUT STILL DONT WANT TO MISS MY RACES!!!
And we all know there are PLENTY of commercials!
The TV coverage is another rant altogether! :lol:
I used to follow it religiously but I have young children now and would much rather spend my time with them. That, combined with all of the other things that need to be done around the house on the weekend, it just doesn't rank up there with something that I need to make time for.
What I used to do over the past few years is watch the first 10 laps, go about my business and try to catch the last 20 laps - that's all that really matters to me.
I stopped watching NASCAR when they switched to Radial tires.
Shakey, I feel she same way. I used to be a huge fan, I knew all the drivers names and car numbers, I could recite stats and finishing orders. Now I start watching a race, fall asleep after 10 laps, wake up, do something else then watch the end of the race. The cookie cutter mile and a half tracks I couldn't care less about. They are boring and uneventful.
But I still get excited at the start of a new season. Maybe it's because it's the middle of winter and it's cold outside and football season is over. I find the twin 125s almost more exciting than the Daytona 500.
Last year the 500 was on Valentines Day. I watched the beginning of the race, went out with my girlfriend, got engaged, went to dinner, and got home just in time to see the last green white checker finish. It was a win/win for me.
If it's on and i am home it's not like im glued to it anymore. If I miss it no biggie.....marks about to retire and so is Dodge.
Quote from: Landonsrt on January 27, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
I hate to say it but as long as jj has knaus, it's all his to win. He can ride around or win. I don't want to see him pass petty and Earnhardt. But he's almost there......... :brickwall:
As a very "casual" nascar fan I only watch a handful of race's a year (if that) can someone please explain to me why JJ will keep winning? Is Knaus THAT good? is JJ That good? is it a case of the team with the most $ behind them will always win? (if so, why haven't Toyota won more races?) I guess what I'm trying to say here is what does JJ and Knaus have that the others don't (i.e a unfair advantage) winning 5 in a row is impressive but not if they have a unfair advantage.
Jimmie and Chad are actually aliens...... :D
I think they just have not been caught for cheating .......
yet....
Quote from: A383Wing on February 06, 2011, 06:15:06 PM
I think they just have not been caught for cheating .......
LATELY....
Fixed it for you! :lol:
How do they cheat? more H.P? more testing? I still haven't heard why JJ has dominated over the last 5 years could he just be THAT good? I agree the race for the chase is stupid :Twocents:
All I know is that I have talked to a lot of race fans who are getting very disinterested in racing when the same team keeps winning.
well on the old point system it never would have happened. but we have been there and cant change that. the way the system is you make the top 12 and get hot for the last 10 races and your there. but you better have a hendrick car cuz they seem to always be on top. then if you have an enemy and they take you out, you cant catch up. hendrick wussied out last year and wouldnt let gordon retaliate from the numerous times that jj pushed him. i could rant all night cuz i dont like jj gordon or earnhardt.
Quote from: General_01 on February 06, 2011, 10:59:44 PM
All I know is that I have talked to a lot of race fans who are getting very disinterested in racing when the same team keeps winning.
I agree with you 100% and that is why I don't watch it as much as I used too someone earlier said it's now a lot like WWE Wrestling and I couldn't agree more!
I was surprised nobody brought up the Daytona 500 yet. I thought it was a really good race even though that dips&!t Mickey took out half the field. ::) Was really neat to see the kid win his first race, in only his second NASCAR Cup race.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 20, 2011, 06:58:51 PM
I was surprised nobody brought up the Daytona 500 yet. I thought it was a really good race even though that dips&!t Mickey took out half the field. ::) Was really neat to see the kid win his first race, in only his second NASCAR Cup race.
I don't really think that is a fair assessment of the situation. Similar circumstances were abundant through out the race. Tony Stewart spun cars twice in a similar fashion. It is just what happens in this type of racing, the cars didn't line up exactly correct and Reutimann didn't have enough time to correct. In the end it was an exciting race and most importantly no one was hurt. Brad Keselowski's wreck had me worried because it looked remarkably like Dale Earnhardt's wreck 10 year ago.
Miller
Even Kyle Bush said Waltrip didn't do anything wrong when he spun. Ruetimann tried to change lanes while Waltrip was pushing him. He even admitted he didn't let Mikey know soon enough. As Miller points out, that is going to happen with this type of racing. It happened multiple times with different people. I'm just glad JJ nor the Busch's won, although I will say I was pretty impressed that Kyle was as gracious as he was in his interview while having the kind of day he did. He still finished 8. Maybe Shrub is growing up.
At first I wasn't very happy with the "two by two" racing. But I soon noticed there was a lot more jockeying for position and lead swaps compared to the usual pack racing. I thought it was one of the better 500's I've seen in quite a while.
Even thou a ford won the race it was great to see the Wood Brothers back in victory lane.
Quote from: General_01 on February 20, 2011, 07:19:03 PM
Ruetimann tried to change lanes while Waltrip was pushing him. He even admitted he didn't let Mikey know soon enough.
Like he is going to call out his boss on national TV.
Sorry guys I will have to disagree, I thought I watched a talentless has been driver that never was wreck half the field. He was famous for this while driving full time.
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 20, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
I feel good for the Wood Brothers as well. They are lucky motor mouth didn't clean them out too!
My boy Bobby came in 4th and No interview or did I miss something. But thank god they talked to JR that came in 24th. :scratchchin:
Bobby who?? You mean that guy that hasn't won a race since 2001???
Quote from: Landonsrt on February 20, 2011, 09:10:18 PM
Bobby who?? You mean that guy that hasn't won a race since 2001???
The 2000 Winston Cup Champion. Been a Bobby fan since the mid 90s and always will be. I guess since he wasn't in a Hendricks, Roush, Penske car no need to talk to him. It was good to see the Wood Brothers win again.
race was good enjoyed the finish, hated seeing newman and hamlin getting taken out. thought they would fight it out at the end again just like the bud race. oh well.
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 20, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
There are Dodges somewhere in NASCAR? Thought the last one was late 70's
i really like the challenger that the nationwide is using. looks good.
Quote from: TK73 on February 20, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 20, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
There are Dodges somewhere in NASCAR? Thought the last one was late 70's
They been back for 10 years now.
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on February 20, 2011, 08:44:39 PM
My boy Bobby came in 4th and No interview or did I miss something. But thank god they talked to JR that came in 24th. :scratchchin:
I totoally agree, Bobby is one of the nicest people on the circuit not to mention he really should have had 2nd place. What kind of crap was C. Edwards pulling there by forcing him over on a Superspeedway,maybe Bobby should have put Cousin Carl into the grass. As many of you know Bobby is still a very talented driver, he has just made some bad choices with the teams lately. If you give him good equipment he will put up some results. I do wish that he wasn't driving a Toyota.
Quote from: The70RT on February 20, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: TK73 on February 20, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 20, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
There are Dodges somewhere in NASCAR? Thought the last one was late 70's
They been back for 10 years now.
What I mean was that there is absolutely NO connection between those Aero-race cars with custom engines and anything the auto manufacturers make. Oh wait, the stickers look the same.
Sick of hearing people refer to those cars as "Chevy", "Dodge", "Ford"...
Good race Today,
Not a huge Gordon fan but not a hater.
Are any of You doing fantasy Nascar ?
This was My first week. It was fun to play and it really helps to keep up with the stats.
Quote from: TK73 on February 20, 2011, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: The70RT on February 20, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: TK73 on February 20, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 20, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I liked the race. Albeit a Dodge didn't win, it was sort of cool seeing #21 Wood Brothers driven by 1st time runner/winner Trevor Bayne... I think Dodge had a great showing... Good going Penske !!!
There are Dodges somewhere in NASCAR? Thought the last one was late 70's
They been back for 10 years now.
What I mean was that there is absolutely NO connection between those Aero-race cars with custom engines and anything the auto manufacturers make. Oh wait, the stickers look the same.
Sick of hearing people refer to those cars as "Chevy", "Dodge", "Ford"...
I agree they all look the same to me so much for "stock" it all seem's kinda WWE Wrestling to me :Twocents:
i didnt do fantasy this year. have in the past, but it does cause you to follow certain drivers more deeply. i thought the race went pretty good except dont like johnson gordon or jr. but glad kyle bush didnt win. really tight racing all day. :2thumbs:
WWE of auto racing... about sums it up...
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 27, 2011, 10:59:24 PM
i didnt do fantasy this year. have in the past, but it does cause you to follow certain drivers more deeply. i thought the race went pretty good except dont like johnson gordon or jr. but glad kyle bush didnt win. really tight racing all day. :2thumbs:
I'm with ya...no worry about Jr. unless it's a restricter race
VERY COOL STORY.
Morgan Shepherd: Las Vegas crimefighter!
Author:
Faith Motorsports PR
Date Posted:
03-01-11
LAS VEGAS, NV - Most NASCAR drivers don't come to mind when you think of Las Vegas crimefighters, but then again, most NASCAR drivers aren't 69-year-old Morgan Shepherd.
The veteran of 44 NASCAR seasons was getting out of his rental car in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart store Monday evening just minutes away from Las Vegas Motor Speedway just as three men burst from the store's entrance with security forces trailing behind.
Thats when Shepherd, a daily jogger and fitness perfectionist, sprang into action.
"I just got out and took off after them," Shepherd said. "I caught one of them just as they were getting ready to hop a little wall at the end of the parking lot. I yanked him down and got on top of him."
Shepherd said in a matter of seconds a Las Vegas police officer pitched the ageless NASCAR driver a pair and handcuffs and continued pursuit of the other two suspects, along with the store's security force.
"I cuffed him and sat on top of him," Shepherd said. "The police department officers showed up and asked if I could hold him a while longer while they ran down the others. I told them he wasn't going anywhere."
Shepherd said while the young shoplifter pleaded with him to let him go and about the possibility of going to jail, Shepherd used the time to lecture the youth about his poor choices.
"I didn't tell him a 69-year-old man chased him down," Shepherd joked. "He was probably 18 or 19. I told him he shouldn't be stealing stuff. There is just too much of this stuff going on."
Two years ago while in Las Vegas for a Nationwide Series race Shepherd himself experienced crime from the victim's perspective. His rental car was broken into and his GPS and cellular phone were stolen. During the 2008 season someone also stole his bicycle while he was racing at Chicagoland Speedway.
"So many people these days would just sit and watch those guys run away," Shepherd said. "People need to get up and help stop this type of stuff."
The three suspects were taken into custody by the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. It wasn't known Tuesday what charges were pending against them.
Shepherd said after brushing himself off he and wife Cindy continued their shopping visit to Wal-Mart.
Just another day in the life of Morgan Shepherd, Las Vegas crimefighter!
I knew people were buying chinese products...now they are stealing them.
Cool Story.
He sounds like a tough old goat.
way to go morgon. nascar people are the best. love the SPORT and love the fans. its americas best SPORT.
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: what a great story!
Just when I thought Kyle was growing up.
What a jerk.
waiting to hear more. they said they were still looking into it and there could be more punishment. of course they cant take his drivers license away since he already lost it. :smilielol:
maybe jpe gibbs will park kyle for the rest of the season..... maybe then will he learn how to act on the track.
Quote from: bajaherbie on November 06, 2011, 04:59:44 PM
maybe jpe gibbs will park kyle for the rest of the season..... maybe then will he learn how to act on the track.
I would love to see that, but the sponsors will never let that happen. To much money involved. But then again Joe Gibbs is a stand up Moral guy and may do it because thats the right thing to do.
I doubt it will happen...sponsors are all about the TV time and winning...granted, Kyle is kind of a jerk..but the kid can drive and win....if Joe cans him and puts someone else in there, I bet M&M's and other major sponsors will go somewhere else
the kid can drive when he wants to....but the attitude needs a bit of work
Quote from: A383Wing on November 06, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
I doubt it will happen...sponsors are all about the TV time and winning...granted, Kyle is kind of a jerk..but the kid can drive and win....if Joe cans him and puts someone else in there, I bet M&M's and other major sponsors will go somewhere else
the kid can drive when he wants to....but the attitude needs a bit of work
i dont like him at all , but the attitude and fearlessness is what make him take the risks and winn
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 06, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: bajaherbie on November 06, 2011, 04:59:44 PM
maybe jpe gibbs will park kyle for the rest of the season..... maybe then will he learn how to act on the track.
I would love to see that, but the sponsors will never let that happen. To much money involved. But then again Joe Gibbs is a stand up Moral guy and may do it because thats the right thing to do.
Roush did it with Kurt Busch back in 2005...
totally unacceptable behavior.
Kyle is the biggest bully on the track.
He should be put on notice. Put a fender on another car/truck to intentionally wreck them and consider yourself out of NASCAR forever.
Tony Stewart had an anger problem until he became an owner.
Maybe Kyle should start paying for the cars/trucks he wrecks including that of his compeditors.
As for loosing M&M's I really don't think M&M's wants this kind of publicity and could drop their sponsorship if his actions don't change. When your product is marketed to children you really don't want a bad role model reflecting poorly on your product.
Listening to the KB interviews you can clearly see that he thinks his actions were totally justified.
Not much chance of him changing his attitude anytime soon.
The only reason he is apologising now that he has been suspended for the weekend is because he has been told too by Joe Gibbs and NASCAR.
your right, tony was getting to be a jerk for a few years. with the "dont mess with me" attitude. witch i think he decided was his job after dale passed. dale was another that thought he could do anything he wanted on the track. the only thing is people actually cheered him when he inflicted his punishment on any driver that he thought inhibited his racing style. just my opinion :2thumbs:
found this on the jayski site....
Statement from M&Ms: "The recent actions by Kyle Busch are not consistent with the values of M&M'S and we're very disappointed. Like you, we hold those who represent our brand to a higher standard and we have expressed our concerns directly to Joe Gibbs Racing."(M&Ms Facebook page)(11-6-2011)
RC should have punched him a lot harder!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/723797-kyle-busch-vs-richard-childress-the-fight-for-generations
Quote from: A383Wing on November 06, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
I doubt it will happen...sponsors are all about the TV time and winning...granted, Kyle is kind of a jerk..but the kid can drive and win....if Joe cans him and puts someone else in there, I bet M&M's and other major sponsors will go somewhere else
the kid can drive when he wants to....but the attitude needs a bit of work
I am in no way defending the bone-headed punk move he pulled, but I believe that Kyle will continue to mature with time. When he has done stupid things at 22, 23 years of age, I have kept in mind he is a very young person. At 26, that excuse is now wearing a little thin. Maybe enough knocks on the head will work. I would like to be a fly on the wall when Coach Gibbs has the "come to Jesus" talk with him.
As bad as his car ran on Sunday with a mere mortal behind the wheel, it does show Kyle has the talent.
I would like to be a fly on the wall when Coach Gibbs has the "come to Jesus" talk with him.
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another linky-dink to jayski...
NASCAR Fines Kyle Busch; Places Him On Probation For Remainder Of Year: NASCAR has fined Kyle Busch $50,000 and placed him on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31 for his actions during the Nov. 4 NASCAR Camping World Truck Series race at Texas Motor Speedway. Kyle Busch violated Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) of the 2011 NASCAR Rule Book. NASCAR took immediate action, parking Busch for the remainder of Friday night's event and maintaining the parked position for the NASCAR Nationwide and NASCAR Sprint Cup Series events scheduled for Saturday and Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway. On Monday, the parking directive was lifted by NASCAR. In issuing Monday's penalty, NASCAR went on to say that "if during the remaining NASCAR events in 2011 there is another action by the competitor that is deemed by NASCAR officials as detrimental to stock car racing or to NASCAR, or is disruptive to the orderly conduct of an event, the competitor will be suspended indefinitely from NASCAR."(NASCAR)(11-7-2011)
There are what.... 2 races left in each series?
Sounds like he is getting another slap on the hand.
yep thats about it. he lost points in cup, but its basically a slap as long as he chills. can he chill? can he just drive around? or will he freak when someone passes him? :shruggy:
I don't think Mars is done with him and Gibbs yet. Never know? We may see Rowdy in the Home Depot car since they are upset about the little screen time Joey gives the car and want him out and another driver in the M&M's car. Stay tuned.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Kyle-Busch-may-be-replaced-by-denny-Hamlin-at-Homestead-111011
sponsers want busch out and hamlin in
I saw this coming :smilielol:
M&M'S drops Kyle Busch for rest of 2011
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-kyle-busch-mms-111011 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-kyle-busch-mms-111011)
Kyle Busch has lost a primary sponsor for the remaining two races of the 2011 Sprint Cup season.
M&M's was to be on the hood of Kyle Busch's No. 18 for the final two Cup races of 2011 at Phoenix and Homestead-Miami. But as a result of Busch's actions in last Friday's Truck Series race at Texas, the company has opted to pull sponsorship until 2012. Interstate Batteries will be on Busch's hood for the final two races.
Kyle Busch will not have M&M'S as a sponsor for the final two races of 2011 "Kyle's recent actions are unacceptable and do not reflect the values of Mars," said Debra A. Sandler, chief consumer officer, Mars Chocolate North America. "While we do not condone Kyle's recent actions, we do believe that he has shown remorse and has expressed a desire to change. We believe our decision will have a positive impact on Kyle and will help him return next season ready to win."
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 11, 2011, 08:52:28 AM
M&M'S drops Kyle Busch for rest of 2011
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-kyle-busch-mms-111011 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-kyle-busch-mms-111011)
Kyle Busch has lost a primary sponsor for the remaining two races of the 2011 Sprint Cup season.
M&M's was to be on the hood of Kyle Busch's No. 18 for the final two Cup races of 2011 at Phoenix and Homestead-Miami. But as a result of Busch's actions in last Friday's Truck Series race at Texas, the company has opted to pull sponsorship until 2012. Interstate Batteries will be on Busch's hood for the final two races.
Kyle Busch will not have M&M'S as a sponsor for the final two races of 2011 "Kyle's recent actions are unacceptable and do not reflect the values of Mars," said Debra A. Sandler, chief consumer officer, Mars Chocolate North America. "While we do not condone Kyle's recent actions, we do believe that he has shown remorse and has expressed a desire to change. We believe our decision will have a positive impact on Kyle and will help him return next season ready to win."
They make it sound like Mars will sponsor Him next Year and that this is just a ( Young Man, Go to Your room ) type of thing.
I don't think Mars will sponsor Him.
he is still driving with interstate batteries. id like to have seen his car driven by someone else the rest of the year, or no sponsor at all. but another slap on the wrist. :shruggy:
Great finish in tonights race. Stewart did a great job coming back to win his third championship. Carl was a very graceful runner-up. He could teach a few things to Kyle Busch.
tony did a great job to come back from 40th. great championship. he stayed cool,even after the mess up in the pits with the lug nut. carl edwards was a real pro. my hat is off to him.
Great race. I was rooting for Tony. Carl was a great runner up. Also, both the Busch brothers finished 11th and 12th in the points. Very fitting that neither one gets to sit on the stage. Great night all around for me. :icon_smile_big:
Guess I have to start watching football now.
Congrats Tony and also to Mr. Edwards for running a great season.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 20, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
Great finish in tonights race. Stewart did a great job coming back to win his third championship. Carl was a very graceful runner-up. He could teach a few things to Kyle Busch.
and to crybaby denny hamlin, I'll never forget the race that he blamed God for his not winning the race. I wanted lightning to strike him right then
congrats to tony. it was a good race. love that it came down to win to win. now thats raceing. as for denny hamlin. why not blame god. good for him. :smilielol:
I do find it strange Stewart fired his crew chief last month. He gets you get in the chase three years in a row, you win the first two races in the chase this year, and then you tell him he is fired at the end of the year, and you then win three more races. Good luck finding a better crew chief. If I was Darian, and Stewart came back asking me to stay, I would tell him to shove it. He will be able to pick nearly any team he wants to go to, and pick is salary as well. This is what happens when Stewart just gets pissy and acts impulsively.
Quote from: chargermike on November 21, 2011, 07:34:45 AM
congrats to tony. it was a good race. love that it came down to win to win. now thats raceing.
Great finish, two guys running as hard as they could to the end. Congrats to Tony. He deserved it.
That was a great race and championship run. Looks like I watched history.. You can't get much closer than a tie at the end of the year and then have to use a tiebreaker. Well, I guess you could if both driver's won the same number of races........ :2thumbs:
Looking forward to 2012 already... Even if they are going to EFI ( guess Brad doesn't like it, it got fined by NASCAR for speaking negatively about it).
tony and haus/stewart racing is putting a third car on the track next year with danica patrick driving. im not sure she is ready for the cup when she hasnt faired well in the nation wide series. oh well, i guess we will see. keslowski will be a big threat next year. he has really grown. :yesnod:
How awesome was that? Smoke backs into the Chase, wins half the races, and when he has to win to take the Cup, he does it. That's just epic.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 21, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
How awesome was that? Smoke backs into the Chase, wins half the races, and when he has to win to take the Cup, he does it. That's just epic.
sound way to fishy to me , it was all rigged someone wanted him to win , come from 40 back to win sounds like he had a big carberator
that was a great race,even or maybe better with the rain delays.more time and interviews.looked like tony was done out of it several times,the damage to grill, close calls the pit mishap and wow,oh wow the 5million 6hundred 60 some throusand dollar check from sprint plus the win ,,,... tonys back.
carl is a great camera guy for the sport and driver too. if jimmy won 1 more year i may have stopped watching??????????????? yeah right.........3 months till next race ,,,,oh no ,,,,,more meds please
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 21, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
How awesome was that? Smoke backs into the Chase, wins half the races, and when he has to win to take the Cup, he does it. That's just epic.
sound way to fishy to me , it was all rigged someone wanted him to win , come from 40 back to win sounds like he had a big carberator
:lol: You were hoping your local MO guy would win no doubt.....
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 21, 2011, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 21, 2011, 12:43:59 PM
How awesome was that? Smoke backs into the Chase, wins half the races, and when he has to win to take the Cup, he does it. That's just epic.
sound way to fishy to me , it was all rigged someone wanted him to win , come from 40 back to win sounds like he had a big carberator
:lol: You were hoping your local MO guy would win no doubt.....
No actually carl is really an ass , at least when he is at local promotional events . I consider clint our local driver , he is really nice and a genuinely good person . Carl lets his handlers do everything and could car less about his fans . Personally i root for the penski dodge boys . Sad that clint is moving to toyota I could half way stomach GM but toyota no way . :rotz: :icon_smile_big:
Are you saying Mr. Phony, Roid-Rage, Attempted Murderer is an Ass? That is kind of a strong word - no? :D
I like Bowyer as well. Too bad his career is over now that he is joining Motormouth Motorsports.
There is a reason a couple of years ago his teammates started refering to him as "The Carl".
Quote from: Aero426 on November 21, 2011, 02:59:55 PM
There is a reason a couple of years ago his teammates started refering to him as "The Carl".
:smilielol: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yes he is full of himself or that is the way it comes off anyway .
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 21, 2011, 02:59:55 PM
There is a reason a couple of years ago his teammates started refering to him as "The Carl".
:smilielol: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yes he is full of himself or that is the way it comes off anyway .
I do not know Carl and I have never met the guy. I have not seen that side of him on TV, but it would not surprise me if he was that way. I am guessing many of them are arrogant jerks.
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 21, 2011, 02:59:55 PM
There is a reason a couple of years ago his teammates started refering to him as "The Carl".
:smilielol: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yes he is full of himself or that is the way it comes off anyway .
I do not know Carl and I have never met the guy. I have not seen that side of him on TV, but it would not surprise me if he was that way. I am guessing many of them are arrogant jerks.
yeah i would bet alot of them are . Like football and baseball they all make to much money now adays and are not like the sports figures of 40 years ago
Quote from: djcarguy on November 21, 2011, 01:37:17 PM
that was a great race,even or maybe better with the rain delays.more time and interviews.looked like tony was done out of it several times,the damage to grill, close calls the pit mishap and wow,oh wow the 5million 6hundred 60 some throusand dollar check from sprint plus the win ,,,... tonys back.
carl is a great camera guy for the sport and driver too. if jimmy won 1 more year i may have stopped watching??????????????? yeah right.........3 months till next race ,,,,oh no ,,,,,more meds please
I agree at least it wasn't another damn J.J. championship... That check $$$$$$ amount is impressive, I think NHRA Drag racing needs to take note & bring championship money way, way, way up, it might spark more interest in being an "independent pro drag racer"...
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 21, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
I like Bowyer as well. Too bad his career is over now that he is joining Motormouth Motorsports.
No kidding. I wonder what the real story at RCR was. I can't see Clint going to MWR being any kind of a step up.
I heard the 5 Hour Energy deal was not enough dough for the Kyle Bush bitch-slappin RCR. I guess the amount was enough for Motormouth Racing to field sub-standard cars with.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 21, 2011, 02:59:55 PM
There is a reason a couple of years ago his teammates started refering to him as "The Carl".
:smilielol: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yes he is full of himself or that is the way it comes off anyway .
I do not know Carl and I have never met the guy. I have not seen that side of him on TV, but it would not surprise me if he was that way. I am guessing many of them are arrogant jerks.
You guys remember when he was PMSing a couple of years ago, feuding and wrecking and even almost throwing a punch at Kenseth?
The fake punch at Kenseth was when it leaked out that several of his Carl's own teammates weren't real fond of him. His "I'm such a nice guy" persona seems like it is one of those deals for when the cameras are on.
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
there's probably something going on there that the public is not privy to. Maybe some personal issues or something along those lines.
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 01:31:26 PM
sound way to fishy to me , it was all rigged someone wanted him to win , come from 40 back to win sounds like he had a big carberator
Yeah I was kinda of thinking the same thing. But NASCAR made it clear they would seriously bitch slap anyone who wrecked Carl or Tony so I think everyone let the two of them have at it. If Carl is a big of a DB that others are saying then I would assume many of the drivers stepped aside to let Tony catch back up to Carl.
definately tony moved through the pack easier than an early race in the season when everyone and every spot still counted. the pit stratagy helped also when he had just pitted before the rain. that put everyone else behind him. 2 cars staying out with bad tires helped on the restart when tony got around them and carl took a few more seconds to make the pass. plus carl only got 2 tires on his stop in fear of loosing spots on the track. it all worked out in tonys favor.
Quote from: NHCharger on November 21, 2011, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2011, 01:31:26 PM
sound way to fishy to me , it was all rigged someone wanted him to win , come from 40 back to win sounds like he had a big carberator
Yeah I was kinda of thinking the same thing. But NASCAR made it clear they would seriously bitch slap anyone who wrecked Carl or Tony so I think everyone let the two of them have at it. If Carl is a big of a DB that others are saying then I would assume many of the drivers stepped aside to let Tony catch back up to Carl.
It did look like some guys were letting Smoke get by rather easily. Maybe he's liked or at least respected among the other drivers, so they let him through, or perhaps it's because they don't like Carl. Whatever the reason, I'm certain that its more of a case of the drivers themselves doing (or not doing) their part, rather than NASCAR finaggling the results. You reap what you sow.
MWR has contacted darrien grubb about a job as a crew chief ::)
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Honestly, it did not surprise me. His crew is pretty horrible at pit stops and pit strategy cost him a couple races early in the season. I think the better performance by his crew in the Chase came because the boom was lowered on Darian and they wanted to do better to either try to change Tony's mind and keep Darian or at least try to keep there own jobs for next year.
Quote from: General_01 on November 21, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Honestly, it did not surprise me. His crew is pretty horrible at pit stops and pit strategy cost him a couple races early in the season. I think the better performance by his crew in the Chase came because the boom was lowered on Darian and they wanted to do better to either try to change Tony's mind and keep Darian or at least try to keep there own jobs for next year.
But they had won four races this year when Darian was informed he was canned. Most teams did not win even one race.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: General_01 on November 21, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Honestly, it did not surprise me. His crew is pretty horrible at pit stops and pit strategy cost him a couple races early in the season. I think the better performance by his crew in the Chase came because the boom was lowered on Darian and they wanted to do better to either try to change Tony's mind and keep Darian or at least try to keep there own jobs for next year.
But they had won four races this year when Darian was informed he was canned. Most teams did not win even one race.
They had only won two. Darian said he was told before the Charlotte race. Yes, they had a good Chase, but they were horrible the first 26 races of the year. At least 2 races lost this year because of poor pit stops by the crew and/or poor calls by Darian.
im surprised it hasnt gone farther than this. part of his team is ryan newman's pit crew. every time ryan went into the pits he lost spots on the track. they were lucky to get 1 good pit stop per race. when you come in in the top 10 and go out 15th every time it gets old. time to clean house. :yesnod:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: General_01 on November 21, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Honestly, it did not surprise me. His crew is pretty horrible at pit stops and pit strategy cost him a couple races early in the season. I think the better performance by his crew in the Chase came because the boom was lowered on Darian and they wanted to do better to either try to change Tony's mind and keep Darian or at least try to keep there own jobs for next year.
But they had won four races this year when Darian was informed he was canned. Most teams did not win even one race.
I think there were more different winners and first time winners than in past years?
Quote from: General_01 on November 21, 2011, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: General_01 on November 21, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 21, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 21, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
:hah: Great for "Smoke" Tony, Congrats for a great chase to the championship with 5 wins ! That is a total career for more than most, let alone for a Championship...
And he said he crew chief is still fired. I think Stewart should have waited until the season was over before canning the crew chief who helped him get the championship. ::)
Honestly, it did not surprise me. His crew is pretty horrible at pit stops and pit strategy cost him a couple races early in the season. I think the better performance by his crew in the Chase came because the boom was lowered on Darian and they wanted to do better to either try to change Tony's mind and keep Darian or at least try to keep there own jobs for next year.
But they had won four races this year when Darian was informed he was canned. Most teams did not win even one race.
They had only won two. Darian said he was told before the Charlotte race. Yes, they had a good Chase, but they were horrible the first 26 races of the year. At least 2 races lost this year because of poor pit stops by the crew and/or poor calls by Darian.
Your right, my mistake.
Steve Addington quits as Kurt Busch's crew chief
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-kurtbusch-crewchief (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-kurtbusch-crewchief)
Doesn't suprize me really, lol.
The Real Kurt Busch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg)
Jerry Punch waiting to go live tells Kurt off camera a piece of his transmissions went through Stewart's grille. Not for sensitive ears.
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
The Real Kurt Busch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg)
Jerry Punch waiting to go live tells Kurt off camera a piece of his transmissions went through Stewart's grille. Not for sensitive ears.
heh...there's something to be said for candor. One of the biggest knocks against NASCAR is that the drivers are too corporate and "vanilla", so I for one don't mind to see them being assholes.
You can be candid without being a total ass hole. Kurt has some real anger management issues.
Given how he treats his crew and the media, I can't imagine the contempt that Kurt must feel towards the lowly fans who pay to sit in the stands.
I don't think too many, if any of the "professional drivers" give a shit about any fans, they are just a means of support to them & their sponsers, they take too much of their time & just a pain in general, TV appearances, photos & autographs etc., I think it's more like contempt... It seem almost all drivers will torch the crews or crew chiefs at 1 point or another on their radios during the race, then praise them after winning, it's just TV entertainment, a bunch of self centered priemodonna's, it's come with the territory in all forms of racers & racing in general...
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
The Real Kurt Busch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg)
Jerry Punch waiting to go live tells Kurt off camera a piece of his transmissions went through Stewart's grille. Not for sensitive ears.
heh...there's something to be said for candor. One of the biggest knocks against NASCAR is that the drivers are too corporate and "vanilla", so I for one don't mind to see them being assholes.
I for 1 like to see drivers with a personality, instead of the robots spouting the same old, "we take it 1 race or 1 day at a time shit", they all seem to say when they are on camera...
I think Penske will can his dumb ass like The Cat in the Hat did.
Real emotion = Good.
A-Hole non-stop = A-Hole.
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
The Real Kurt Busch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaBQq5D4Zg)
Jerry Punch waiting to go live tells Kurt off camera a piece of his transmissions went through Stewart's grille. Not for sensitive ears.
Penske Racing issues apology and reviewing internally.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Penske-Racing-apologizes-after-Kurt-Busch-Homestead-outburst-goes-viral-112211
Must be genetic. Both Kurt and Kyle are the biggest A-Holes under the sun. ::)
Yes - Their parents raised them well. :yesnod:
Not to defend any of these a$$ holes, it has to be tough to have someone shove a microphone in your face right after a wreck or blowing something up you adrenaline has to be thru the roof at the time, I know they are suppose to be professionals, but I had a wreck at Bristol Drag strip in the early 80's & a guy from TNN Diamond P Sports started asking me question right afterwards, all I remember is wanting to choke out Brent Kempner the TNN reporter at the time, I was so pissed, he was even thinking of asking me how I felt, "How do you think I felt ? He just wrecked my $60K race car", I got wrecked by the other guy crossing into my lane & wrecking both of our cars, I could hardly talk at all... I apologized to Brent Kepner latter for my attitude, he said "it's no big deal, it's normal to be emotional, right after a wreck, but the producer just wanted to get the drama on camera"
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
You can be candid without being a total ass hole. Kurt has some real anger management issues.
Given how he treats his crew and the media, I can't imagine the contempt that Kurt must feel towards the lowly fans who pay to sit in the stands.
Look the guy had a shitty season (by his standards) and his equipment couldn't even get him through the last race. Of course he's gonna be in a pissy mood.
He's basically the "boss" of the team, so if his crew ain't getting it done, he needs to rip them a new one to motivate their asses. No different than any other boss. And since when are we so concerned about the media?
Im not saying he's not being an asshole, I'm just saying that his assholeness (is that a word?..LOL) isn't entirely unjustified.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 22, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
He's basically the "boss" of the team, so if his crew ain't getting it done, he needs to rip them a new one to motivate their asses. No different than any other boss. And since when are we so concerned about the media?
Yes, Kurt really motivated Steve Addington, didn't he? How long will the next guy last? Kurt will not achieve another championship the way he is. There is no way, because he is bigger than the team. It's the teams fault, it's NASCAR's fault. Soon it will be Roger's fault.
Quote from: Budnicks on November 22, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Not to defend any of these a$$ holes, it has to be tough to have someone shove a microphone in your face right after a wreck or blowing something up you adrenaline has to be thru the roof at the time, I know they are suppose to be professionals, but I had a wreck at Bristol Drag strip in the early 80's & a guy from TNN Diamond P Sports started asking me question right afterwards, all I remember is wanting to choke out Brent Kempner the TNN reporter at the time, I was so pissed, he was even thinking of asking me how I felt, "How do you think I felt ? He just wrecked my $60K race car", I got wrecked by the other guy crossing into my lane & wrecking both of our cars, I could hardly talk at all... I apologized to Brent Kepner latter for my attitude, he said "it's no big deal, it's normal to be emotional, right after a wreck, but the producer just wanted to get the drama on camera"
I assume you were not paid millions and had a team of PR handlers to teach you how to properly answer a tough question. These Cup drivers know that the questions are going to be asked. It's part of the deal. NOBODY shoved a mic in Kurt's face. Why he didn't excuse himself from the get-go, I can't say.
Here's another good one. Even his peers on the track know he's a head case. Listen to Gordon and Bowyer being told to "watch out for the #22"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs)
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on November 22, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Not to defend any of these a$$ holes, it has to be tough to have someone shove a microphone in your face right after a wreck or blowing something up you adrenaline has to be thru the roof at the time, I know they are suppose to be professionals, but I had a wreck at Bristol Drag strip in the early 80's & a guy from TNN Diamond P Sports started asking me question right afterwards, all I remember is wanting to choke out Brent Kempner the TNN reporter at the time, I was so pissed, he was even thinking of asking me how I felt, "How do you think I felt ? He just wrecked my $60K race car", I got wrecked by the other guy crossing into my lane & wrecking both of our cars, I could hardly talk at all... I apologized to Brent Kepner latter for my attitude, he said "it's no big deal, it's normal to be emotional, right after a wreck, but the producer just wanted to get the drama on camera"
I assume you were not paid millions and had a team of PR handlers to teach you how to properly answer a tough question. These Cup drivers know that the questions are going to be asked. It's part of the deal. NOBODY shoved a mic in Kurt's face. Why he didn't excuse himself from the get-go, I can't say.
No millions, No Handlers, No Attitude, well usually, but I had $100K-$400K in sponsors a bottling company & tobacco company depending on which car & what the season or event NHRA, IHRA, Super Chevy, NDRA, NCTA Nostalgia Racing what ever, I think some guys have talent for racing but have no talent for media, is kind of my point... The funny thing is they got more advertisement from my being wrecked than they did during regular racing situations, I think
"the have at it boys" NASCAR instituted, is a real big part of the problem, you can't let these guys retaliate willy nilly when ever they please, it will get someone killed....
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 07:35:07 PM
Here's another good one. Even his peers on the track know he's a head case. Listen to Gordon and Bowyer being told to "watch out for the #22"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs)
great...i just spent an hour watching NASCAR related videos. The " Cussing Special" is epic.:lol:
i know, once you watch one there are so many more to lure you in. :smilielol:
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 23, 2011, 02:15:24 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2011, 07:35:07 PM
Here's another good one. Even his peers on the track know he's a head case. Listen to Gordon and Bowyer being told to "watch out for the #22"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVN-ruNmiSs)
great...i just spent an hour watching NASCAR related videos. The " Cussing Special" is epic.:lol:
:lol: :lol: Same here. Funny one, Kyle Busch cursing up a storm at JJ who keep giving him the finger. Both the Busch boys have some serious anger management issues. Their parents did a fine job raising them
NASCAR fines Kurt Busch $50,000 for poor behavior :smilielol:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-buschfined (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-buschfined)
NASCAR cited both an obscene gesture Busch made inside his car and him being verbally abusive to a reporter in fining the 2004 Cup champion.
"Kurt Busch showed disrespect toward a media member, an incident that followed similar inappropriate media confrontations earlier in the season," NASCAR said in a statement announcing the penalty.
Busch had a transmission problem early in Sunday's race that sent his Penske Racing Dodge to the garage. His in-car camera caught him making an obscene gesture during that time.
While his team made repairs, Busch waited to be interviewed by an ESPN reporter, and a fan videotaped Busch being verbally abusive while waiting to go live.
That video was posted on YouTube, and both Penske officials and Busch have apologized in separate statements for his behavior.
My oldest son said after I told him this (yes he seen the video), "that's still not enough" :2thumbs:
Shell sure picked a heck of a winner didnt they
I would think that kind of behavior would come from Kyle, Not Kurt.
Guess it runs in the Family.
I wonder how the holidays go at their parents house. :P
You can almost hear the argument ...
Their mom at the Busches dad; "I wanted to have them both aborted, but your the one who told me not to, cause you need a good laugh... Happy?!" :lol:
Quote
Kurt Busch, fined $50,000 last week by NASCAR for verbally abusing a reporter, said Thursday he's seeing a sports psychologist to address what he described as "personal issues."
"I need to be a better person on the radio, to the team, as a leader," said Busch, who began working with the psychologist two months ago. "It's personal issues, of course, and working with a sports psychologist, I've gotten obviously a small grasp, but there's obviously bigger things that I need to accomplish and things can't happen overnight."
he needs to take his little brother with him
LOL! You got that right!!
Here's a full artical on him going
http://www.nascar.com/news/111201/kbusch-seeing-sports-psychologist/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111201/kbusch-seeing-sports-psychologist/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Amazing. After reading all that, he still blames other people.
Seriously?
Quote"Then I need to step out of the car and do a better job to understand that if we didn't reach our goal for that day or that moment, that it's going to be all right at the end."
And then what...tell your crew chief to go on timeout? And give everyone in the crew "A for effort" ribbons and take them out for ice cream because they tried their best? Ninja please...
I like Kurt Busch the asshole.
Quote from: Ponch ® on December 02, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Seriously?
Quote"Then I need to step out of the car and do a better job to understand that if we didn't reach our goal for that day or that moment, that it's going to be all right at the end."
And then what...tell your crew chief to go on timeout? And give everyone in the crew "A for effort" ribbons and take them out for ice cream because they tried their best? Ninja please...
I like Kurt Busch the asshole.
Kurt Busch is like the asshole boss who comes into the middle of the work area in front of all your coworkers and proceeds to tell everyone how horrible you are at your job and how he would be looked at better by his superiors if you weren't such an idiot.
There are better ways to let people know you are not satisfied with how things are going. Being honest with someone is one thing, being an asshole about it is another.
Very well said! I have had those kind of bosses in the past too :P
I guess Kurt was feeling left out with little Brother getting all the attention.
Watched the banquet last night. Got a little tired of the Darian Grubb "poor me" crap. I didn't see all of it though. I was watching the Wild and the Gophers play hockey. It was nice not seeing a Busch up on the stage.
tonys speech was pretty good....
I could care less about the banquet crap :P
ever since JJ was champ..I never watched it...
Kurt Busch fired from Penske Racing
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/blog/from_the_marbles/post/Report-Kurt-Busch-fired-from-Penske-Racing?urn=nascar-wp5594
Maybe if jis brother gets fired too they could start thier own racing team.
:smilielol: Thats good for him. Some idiots never learn. Next his wife will leave him too.
I'd like to see David Reutimann get that ride. He is a good driver, just need better equipment to drive.
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on December 04, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
Kurt Busch fired from Penske Racing
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/blog/from_the_marbles/post/Report-Kurt-Busch-fired-from-Penske-Racing?urn=nascar-wp5594
Maybe if jis brother gets fired too they could start thier own racing team.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 05, 2011, 12:31:22 AM
:smilielol: Thats good for him. Some idiots never learn. Next his wife will leave him too.
She did. She divorced him this summer.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/6/28/2247863/kurt-busch-new-relationship-marriage-nascar-media-reporting-news-2011
Wow! I didnt know that. She most likey only wanted his money though anyway. :lol:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on December 05, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 05, 2011, 12:31:22 AM
:smilielol: Thats good for him. Some idiots never learn. Next his wife will leave him too.
She did. She divorced him this summer.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/6/28/2247863/kurt-busch-new-relationship-marriage-nascar-media-reporting-news-2011
I didn't know that either.
It's gonna be a long cold winter for Him.
He has a new girlfriend. In fact, they way people learned about his divorce was when his new GF showed up at the track with him.
Quote from: Aero426 on December 05, 2011, 10:57:10 AM
He has a new girlfriend. In fact, they way people learned about his divorce was when his new GF showed up at the track with him.
and that's how playas do it! :2thumbs:
I happen to learn of his wife leaving long before anybody else... the movers i had to use within the last year told me they had just come from his house, moving all of her stuff out. Says Kurt threw her out. Watched the next race, and sure enough, no wife.
Michael and Buffy split too :scratchchin:
Say what???
Did see this though...
Ford out as crew chief for Hamlin, No. 11
http://www.nascar.com/news/111206/ford-out-as-crew-chief-dhamlin/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111206/ford-out-as-crew-chief-dhamlin/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Quote from: The70RT on December 07, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Michael and Buffy split too :scratchchin:
Because Mikey was too busy applying vacuum to the Aaron's guy 24/7... :o
Quote from: The70RT on December 07, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Michael and Buffy split too :scratchchin:
now that was/is a nice piece...
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/187/8/9/Buffy_Waltrip_by_Halloweenmaster.jpg)
Yeah, she looks good for an older broad.
honestly i've never seen that side of her... :cheers:
Quote from: Chargen69 on December 08, 2011, 11:41:02 AM
honestly i've never seen that side of her... :cheers:
:smilielol:
Joe Gibbs Racing announced Friday that Darian Grubb has been named crew chief for its No. 11 Toyota Sprint Cup Series team.
http://www.nascar.com/news/111209/dhamlin-dgrubb-crew-chief-jgr/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111209/dhamlin-dgrubb-crew-chief-jgr/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Good for Him.
I like Darian.
hav :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:e been a BIG kurt fan since he was a rookie. he will have a ride in no time. he is a champion and that means he will start in any car he drives. still one of the best drivers out there. hell both bush brothers are kick ass drivers. nascar needs the bush brothers just like nascar needed DALE SR. the 3 car was hated until he died. tony was the badd boy for a time and nascar let him have his own team. they should put him in the 88 car. at least then it would see victorty lane a couple times a year instead of running the middle of the pack. or maybe tony could give him a car and have a great race team. STILL A BUSH FAN. dont care that his wife left him. last time i checked there is hot pussy everywhere. he will have no problem finding more. there have only been 3 chase champs. kurt tony and jimmie. so whers your driver. most likely behind one of these three. i vote put him in the 88. it needs a winner not a cry baby who blames his crew every week like JR. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
i will agree with a few things.............i hated dale sr. he was a cheat. dirty driver,but didnt want you to do to him what he did. jr. is a cry baby. nuff said about that. i like kurt bush. thought he drove the wheels off that dodge. yep he has a little anger. i think if you have a bad day and your frustrated, a microphone could set you off. all the drivers have and will lose it. kyle is a punk.he thinks he is supposed to win every race. he has the same attitude of dale sr. "i matter and no one else does". my drivers and team would be ryan newman, tony stewart and stewart haas racing which will include danica patrick this year.thats where i sit. i root for my team and then whoever is in the dodge.
Quote from: chargermike on December 12, 2011, 09:34:59 AM
hav :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:e been a BIG kurt fan since he was a rookie. he will have a ride in no time. he is a champion and that means he will start in any car he drives. still one of the best drivers out there. hell both bush brothers are kick ass drivers. nascar needs the bush brothers just like nascar needed DALE SR. the 3 car was hated until he died. tony was the badd boy for a time and nascar let him have his own team. they should put him in the 88 car. at least then it would see victorty lane a couple times a year instead of running the middle of the pack. or maybe tony could give him a car and have a great race team. STILL A BUSH FAN. dont care that his wife left him. last time i checked there is hot pussy everywhere. he will have no problem finding more. there have only been 3 chase champs. kurt tony and jimmie. so whers your driver. most likely behind one of these three. i vote put him in the 88. it needs a winner not a cry baby who blames his crew every week like JR. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Your such a HUGE fan that you can't even spell his name correctly. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: General_01 on December 12, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: chargermike on December 12, 2011, 09:34:59 AM
hav :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:e been a BIG kurt fan since he was a rookie. he will have a ride in no time. he is a champion and that means he will start in any car he drives. still one of the best drivers out there. hell both bush brothers are kick ass drivers. nascar needs the bush brothers just like nascar needed DALE SR. the 3 car was hated until he died. tony was the badd boy for a time and nascar let him have his own team. they should put him in the 88 car. at least then it would see victorty lane a couple times a year instead of running the middle of the pack. or maybe tony could give him a car and have a great race team. STILL A BUSH FAN. dont care that his wife left him. last time i checked there is hot pussy everywhere. he will have no problem finding more. there have only been 3 chase champs. kurt tony and jimmie. so whers your driver. most likely behind one of these three. i vote put him in the 88. it needs a winner not a cry baby who blames his crew every week like JR. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Your such a HUGE fan that you can't even spell his name correctly. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Yeah I thought Bush was a rock group :lol:
Latest on Kurt. Petty Enterprises, specifically Robby Lommis is interested in signing Kurt to either replace AJ or a third car.
Ha, He wont last long there. Richard Petty wont tolerate his BS at all.
I did read this though....
Best Buy to sponsor Kenseth?: Roush Fenway Racing and #17-Matt Kenseth appear to be well on their way to securing the Best Buy sponsorship for 2012, according to sources familiar with the situation. The Roush organization has pledged to run Kenseth, the 2003 Cup champion, without sponsorship but has been working hard to find funding for the driver coming off a three-win season where he placed fourth in the Cup standings. Kenseth's primary sponsor Crown Royal opted not to sponsor a race team in 2012. Best Buy's sponsorship of #43-AJ Allmendinger at Richard Petty Motorsports was for 24 races in 2011. RPM has not announced any sponsorship for the #43 car for next season. An RPM spokesman said the team would have no comment on its sponsorship search.
Greg Zipadelli joins Stewart-Haas Racing
http://www.nascar.com/news/111216/gzipadelli-competition-director-stewart-haas-tstewart-rnewman/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111216/gzipadelli-competition-director-stewart-haas-tstewart-rnewman/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
sweet, like that move :2thumbs:
I was wondering when Zippadelli would get tired of Logano. :yesnod:
Best Buy to sponsor Kenseth, Edwards part-time
http://www.nascar.com/news/111220/mkenseth-cedwards-best-buy-sponsorship/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111220/mkenseth-cedwards-best-buy-sponsorship/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Best Buy Co., Inc. announced Tuesday a new sponsorship deal for the 2012 Sprint Cup Series season. Best Buy will serve as primary sponsor of the Matt Kenseth No. 17 Ford for nine races and Carl Edwards' No. 99 Ford for two races. In addition, Best Buy will serve as associate sponsor for each. More on the link provided.
Bad news for Petty
king richard probably took a Goody's powder!
Quote from: bajaherbie on December 20, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
king richard probably took a Goody's powder!
He took a whole lot more after today's anouncements.....
Allmendinger to drive Penske No. 22 Dodge for '12http://www.nascar.com/news/111221/aallmendinger-to-drive-penske-racing-22-car-in-2012/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111221/aallmendinger-to-drive-penske-racing-22-car-in-2012/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
But that said, I like the move :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 21, 2011, 03:14:53 PM
But that said, I like the move :2thumbs:
:iagree:
Always liked the Dinger. If he can finish 15th in the points with RPM equipment he should be contending for a championship in the Penske ride.
Quote from: NHCharger on December 21, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 21, 2011, 03:14:53 PM
But that said, I like the move :2thumbs:
:iagree:
Always liked the Dinger. If he can finish 15th in the points with RPM equipment he should be contending for a championship in the Penske ride.
I like Todd Gordon as well.
I think AJ and Todd will make a good team.
Busch to drive No. 51 for Phoenix Racing in 2012
http://www.nascar.com/news/111222/kbusch-to-drive-51-car-for-phoenix-racing-2012-james-finch/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111222/kbusch-to-drive-51-car-for-phoenix-racing-2012-james-finch/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
"The 2004 NASCAR champion will drive James Finch's car next year on the Sprint Cup tour. Steve Barkdoll, general manager for the Spartanburg, S.C.-based team, confirmed Thursday that Busch would be the team's driver. Busch, reached later by telephone, said he had a one-year deal to run the full schedule."
I just found out.
I hope He has a better attitude this Year.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Former-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Champion-Kurt-Busch-finds-new-ride-for-2012
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 22, 2011, 05:45:32 PM
Busch to drive No. 51 for Phoenix Racing in 2012
http://www.nascar.com/news/111222/kbusch-to-drive-51-car-for-phoenix-racing-2012-james-finch/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/111222/kbusch-to-drive-51-car-for-phoenix-racing-2012-james-finch/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
"The 2004 NASCAR champion will drive James Finch's car next year on the Sprint Cup tour. Steve Barkdoll, general manager for the Spartanburg, S.C.-based team, confirmed Thursday that Busch would be the team's driver. Busch, reached later by telephone, said he had a one-year deal to run the full schedule."
He took what he could get, I guess. It's definitely going to be a humbling experience for him. The #51 is a fairly competitive team for what it is (a 2nd-3rd tier team), so he's gonna have to work pretty hard to decent finishes and maybe get back into a top team later on. Otherwise he'll end up on that sad list of former champions (DW, the Labonte brothers, etc.) who spend the final years of their otherwise stellar careers driving for low level teams and finishing 35th every week or using their champion's provisional to start and park. Those other guys were in their 40's-50s, but this guy is still in his prime, so hopefully he can pull off a comeback.
Aric Almirola will drive the No. 43 for Richard Petty Motorsports in 2012
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-aric-almirola-43-010412 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jh-aric-almirola-43-010412)
alot of moving goin on. wont know who is where when the season starts.
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 04, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
alot of moving goin on. wont know who is where when the season starts.
Amen, I'll second that statement...
Reutimann finds ride with Tommy Baldwin Racing
http://www.nascar.com/news/120103/dreutimann-tommy-baldwin-racing-2012/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120103/dreutimann-tommy-baldwin-racing-2012/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Rusty Wallace Racing closing: UPDATES: Rusty Wallace is in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico this week, hosting his annual Charity Golf and Fishing Tournament. Next week, he'll return home to make some difficult decisions on the future of his Rusty Wallace, Inc. NASCAR Nationwide Series team.RWI fielded a pair of Nationwide Series Toyotas for son Steve Wallace and Michael Annett last season, with Annett finishing ninth and Wallace 10th in championship points. Major sponsor 5-Hour Energy departed at season's end to back Clint Bowyer's new Sprint Cup Series effort at Michael Waltrip Racing in 2012, and the search for a replacement has yielded no results. Now, Wallace faces the prospect of closing the doors on a team he has devoted the last seven years of his life to building. "I'm afraid we're getting really close to that right now," admitted the 1989 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series champion. "I don't want to do it. It breaks my heart even thinking about it. But if we don't have the money to do this thing right, it's not worth doing. We've got some sponsorship in place for next year, but not nearly enough to run the full season. Honestly, we've got just enough money to get ourselves in big trouble. My wife Patty and I are trying to decide what to do," he said. "We're looking everywhere for a way out; a way to avoid closing the doors. But I'm afraid that may be where we're headed."(Sirius Speedway)(1-6-2012)
AND: Reliable sources say that Rusty Wallace, Inc., will close its doors at the end of business [Friday], laying off a majority of its employees. Expect an official announcement within the hour.(Sirius Speedway)(1-6-2012)
UPDATE: Rusty Wallace is a man of his word. In September, the former NASCAR champion and current team owner warned if there wasn't enough money to run his Nationwide Series program, he'd put the shop in mothballs. Unfortunately, that day has come. Rusty Wallace Inc. is expected to shut its doors next Friday, sources told FOXSports.com.(Fox Sports)(1-6-2012)
UPDATE: Officials of Rusty Wallace Racing, LLC (RWR) announced today that the team's on-track activities will be put on a temporary hiatus. While the organization's day-to-day competition activities will temporarily cease, key elements of RWR's business staff will remain in place to continue development of future opportunities. The team is currently assisting #66 driver, Steve Wallace, in exploring several exciting opportunities for 2012, with backing from his current RWR sponsors. RWR will continue to maintain and manage those sponsor relationships on Wallace's behalf. #62 driver, Michael Annett has been released from the team and will pursue other 2012 opportunities with his longtime family sponsor, Pilot Flying J.(Rusty Wallace Racing)(1-6-2012)
thats a shame. i like rusty. had lunch with him one time. a really friendly guy. :2thumbs:
I always liked him too.
It was reported that Rusty turned down $4.5 million of sponsorship by their second driver Michael Annett which would have kept things rolling. Annett has family sponsorship of Pilot and Flying J travel stops.
Rusty has a shop that is big enough to run two Cup programs out of. Sounds like they overbuilt with the thought that they would eventually move up.
NASCAR eliminates car-to-car communications
In an effort to downplay tandem drafting, ban goes into effect at Daytona 500
http://www.nascar.com/news/120112/notebook-preseason-thunder-daytona-nascar-eliminates-car-to-car-communications/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120112/notebook-preseason-thunder-daytona-nascar-eliminates-car-to-car-communications/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
The days of NASCAR drivers being able to talk with their drafting partners over the radio during a race are over. In another step toward trying to downplay tandem drafting, the sanctioning body has officially banned the practice beginning with this season's Daytona 500.
Sprint Cup director John Darby said some drivers had as many as 20 or 30 channels programmed into their radios for restrictor-plate races. "There was a point where it got so confusing to them, that they actually lost focus on what they were doing," Darby said, "and felt much better if we could back that off somewhat and get it to a standard or more common communications between driver and spotter and driver and pit crew as we've known it in the past."
that might keep them a little more even out there. :2thumbs:
Thank God - It was getting stupid....waiting for each other in the pits - etc.
I agree. It wasn't about who was the fastest anymore.
Lot's of changes going on.
Getting hard to keep up.
this season cant get here soon enough. then every thing will fall into place. your used to looking for a color to flash by, not this year. :shruggy:
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 12, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
Thank God - It was getting stupid....waiting for each other in the pits - etc.
it was the racing equivalent of how chicks always go to the bathroom together. Good move by NASCAR on this one.
:smilielol: good one ponch. just read an article about zip and patric. i dont understand how you put a driver that hasn't finished in the top 5 and never won a nationwide race straight into a cup car. i dont think she's ready.just my :Twocents:
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 13, 2012, 01:32:31 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 12, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
Thank God - It was getting stupid....waiting for each other in the pits - etc.
it was the racing equivalent of how chicks always go to the bathroom together. Good move by NASCAR on this one.
Nice one - I was trying to think an equivalent when I typed that.... :2thumbs:
Well, this will be interesting...
Kyle Busch signs brother Kurt for Nationwide team
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-buschsteam (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-buschsteam)
The Busch Brothers will be teamed together for the first time in more than a decade this season as co-drivers for Kyle Busch Motorsports.
Kyle Busch tabbed his older brother, Kurt, to share the No. 54 Toyota this year in the Nationwide Series. The brothers on Thursday introduced Monster Energy as their sponsor for the new team.
wow, could get exciting. i wonder if they will back each other? :shruggy:
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 20, 2012, 09:05:14 AM
wow, could get exciting. i wonder if they will back each other? :shruggy:
at least they made up. I read somewhere that they didn't talk to each other for almost a year after they wrecked at the Winston (I know...its the Sprint All Star Challenge or whatever..but it will always be the Winston to me dammit!) a few years ago.
Wow, thought this was interesting news. Seven figure salary, damn I'm in the business.
Loomis out at Petty: Richard Petty Motorsports has elected not to renew Robbie Loomis' contract for 2012. Loomis, who was most recently listed at Chief Operating Officer for RPM, first joined Petty Enterprises as a crew chief in 1991 at the end of the King's driving career. "I'm taking some time off," Loomis said. "My contract was up in December and I'm looking to explore what's next. Richard is still family -- so is everyone else at Richard Petty Motorsports. The future is exciting because it's unknown but there's still a lot of uncertainty in what the future brings." Loomis wouldn't acknowledge whether or not he would continue on as a consultant for the team but added that he'd "Do anything to help Richard Petty Motorsports be in a better place." But with Best Buy pulling out of RPM and Smithfield signing up for a limited schedule on the #43 Ford, it's become increasingly clear that the company could no longer afford Loomis' reported seven figure salary. While no successor for Loomis has been named, certainly with 20 years of racing experience, Sammy Johns, RPM's director of operation, is more than capable of overseeing the competition department.(Fox Sports)(1-22-2012)
I dont think that will affect anything really.
Ford unveils 2013 Cup Series Ford Fusion
http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on January 13, 2012, 10:10:35 AM
Lot's of changes going on.
Getting hard to keep up.
:2thumbs: yep mind boggleing at times, I saw they were testing the smaller rads, smaller air intakes/grills, lower pressure relief valve, all heating or over heating engine issues, to help stop/detour the 2 car constant drafts, they want to get back to pack racing & individuals not hooked up with another single car boring a$$ draft like the last year & last the electronic fuel injection again... Could be an interesting year...
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 24, 2012, 05:37:24 PM
Ford unveils 2013 Cup Series Ford Fusion
http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
beat me to it...that thing looks badass.
Hopefully the other manufactures will follow their lead.
yep, a good looking model. waiting for the other 2, oh wait, is that forien company still in it? :smilielol: i guess mationwide (bush series to me) will still use the challenger this year? :shruggy:
I do like the looks of it. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 25, 2012, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 24, 2012, 05:37:24 PM
Ford unveils 2013 Cup Series Ford Fusion
http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120124/ford-fusion-2013-cup-series/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
beat me to it...that thing looks badass.
Hopefully the other manufactures will follow their lead.
They are Ponch. It is the new Nascar layout for 2013. They want to go back to a more street looking type of car.
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 24, 2012, 05:37:24 PM
Ford unveils 2013 Cup Series Ford Fusion
That's a good lookin' racin' rig. :2thumbs:
NASCAR does away with undisclosed fines
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/26/2959443/nascar-does-away-with-undisclosed.html (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/26/2959443/nascar-does-away-with-undisclosed.html)
Ryan Newman received two and Denny Hamlin one. Brad Keselowski was the most recent recipient, receiving a $25,000 fine for criticizing NASCAR's move to electronic fuel injection.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/26/2959443/nascar-does-away-with-undisclosed.html#storylink=cpy
I didn't know a driver could be fined for voicing His opinion.
i know ryan newman was very vocal about how he feels about the restrictor plate races.
Junior is very vocal about restrictor plate races on TV all the time...does he get fined?? And I know there are others as well
Noooooooooooooooo!
ryan is my guy. from the beginning. now that he drives a chevy, i still stay with him. but he isnt considered a fan draw like gordon, johnson, jr,edwards, who are protected no matter what. so when he made a comment that this racing is a joke and no one wants to watch a race like this. they took offence to it.
25 grand for them is like me loosing a $10 hand at the black jack table.
If I talked about the stupid decisions made the company I work for publicly I would get fired before I could pull a dollar out of my wallet.
Without NASCAR these guys would be driving go-carts or flipping burgers for a living.
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on January 27, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
25 grand for them is like me loosing a $10 hand at the black jack table.
If I talked about the stupid decisions made the company I work for publicly I would get fired before I could pull a dollar out of my wallet.
Without NASCAR these guys would be driving go-carts or flipping burgers for a living.
instead theyre flipping race cars for a living...
(http://www.fantasynascarpreview.com/nascar-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/carl-edwards.jpg)
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 26, 2012, 09:52:25 PM
ryan is my guy. from the beginning. now that he drives a chevy, i still stay with him. but he isnt considered a fan draw like gordon, johnson, jr,edwards, who are protected no matter what. so when he made a comment that this racing is a joke and no one wants to watch a race like this. they took offence to it.
I like Newman & Stewart also, but like Kurt Busch too, {even Danika Patrick, I think she's good for broadening the sport}, I'm a sick puppy I guess, the thing that really gets me is, the powers to be at NASCAR say "
have at it boys", go out try to kill & wreck each others high dollar race cars, but "
god forbid" they say any thing about the way the sanctioning body,
Good Year Tires or lack of performance & dislike of re-stricter plate racing, that the NASCAR sanctioning body runs the races they participate in, if they are letting them
have at it on the track how about
let them have an opinion too... Sorry if this offends anyone, but that's just my personal views... I know they need to have some control of stuff they say, but let the guys be guys, not the robots the NASCAR officials want, they have reporters shoving a microphone in there face shortly after a wild ride or wreck, their adrenaline is going thru the roof at the moment, they are bound to say stupid stuff,
the TV reporters/press, constantly bait them to say that kind of stuff all the time, for sake of rating, how about fining them too... That's only fair....
i definately agree that they need to back off a guy and let him cool from an incident before asking questions. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 27, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
i definately agree that they need to back off a guy and let him cool from an incident before asking questions. :2thumbs:
:iagree: :iagree:
I can't even imagine the adrenaline rush that would come from a 200 MPH crash.
I can't even imagine the adrenaline rush that would come from just going 200 MPH :P
:iagree: just going 200 mph would freak me :yesnod:
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Getting ready to watch the Bud Shootout practice on Speed, and the 48 car for the 500, was conficated already for being illegal, lol. Kyle Petty has a full beard (first time I ever saw him like that) & Hermie Sadler has a full beard, and Jeff Hamond has a goatee going. Wait til you see Jr.'s beard, lol.
Quotejust going 200 mph would freak me yesnod
me too
agh go do a burnout :slap:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 17, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
Getting ready to watch the Bud Shootout practice on Speed, and the 48 car for the 500, was conficated already for being illegal, lol. Kyle Petty has a full beard (first time I ever saw him like that) & Hermie Sadler has a full beard, and Jeff Hamond has a goatee going. Wait til you see Jr.'s beard, lol.
Surprise, Surprise! "Cheater" Knaus was caught again. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Speed corrected it, they did not have the car confiscated... To bad, lol. They just have to replace the C pillers on the car.
Watching the first practice session, looks like the 2 car drafts are gone. There running in a big pack at 200 - 205mph.
Just had a 5 car crash, Both Penske cars, Tony Stewert both Busche brothers. I think Truex got some damage too
From Jayski...
NASCAR turns down 'General Lee': Concerned over the negative image of the Confederate flag, NASCAR told PGA star Bubba Watson he cannot drive his "General Lee'' show car around Phoenix International Raceway before the March 4 Sprint Cup race. Watson, an honorary race official for the event, was originally told he could appear in the #01 car from the "Dukes of Hazzard'' television series, which he purchased for $110,000 at an auction. NASCAR officials vetoed that because there is a Confederate flag on the roof of the bright orange Dodge Charger made famous in the series, which aired from 1979-85, and the sport is trying to distance itself from the negative image that brings. "NASCAR, International Speedway Corp. and Phoenix International Raceway officials discussed this and decided it was not in the best interest of our sport,'' NASCAR said in a statement on Friday. "The image of the Confederate flag is not something that should play an official role in our sport as we continue to reach out to new fans and make NASCAR more inclusive." Watson, who recently drove the car to the Phoenix Open golf tournament, wrote Thursday on Twitter: "Sorry to say @nascar won't let me drive The General Lee at the @PhoenixRaceway !!! #dreamcrushed." The Confederate flag still is flown by fans at many racetracks, particularly in the South. But NASCAR has made it clear over the years that it doesn't want to be associated with that image.(ESPN)(2-17-2012)
Yup, I postyed that in the Charger section already ;)
Quote from: maxwellwedge on February 17, 2012, 06:54:17 PM
From Jayski...
NASCAR turns down 'General Lee': Concerned over the negative image of the Confederate flag, NASCAR told PGA star Bubba Watson he cannot drive his "General Lee'' show car around Phoenix International Raceway before the March 4 Sprint Cup race. Watson, an honorary race official for the event, was originally told he could appear in the #01 car from the "Dukes of Hazzard'' television series, which he purchased for $110,000 at an auction. NASCAR officials vetoed that because there is a Confederate flag on the roof of the bright orange Dodge Charger made famous in the series, which aired from 1979-85, and the sport is trying to distance itself from the negative image that brings. "NASCAR, International Speedway Corp. and Phoenix International Raceway officials discussed this and decided it was not in the best interest of our sport,'' NASCAR said in a statement on Friday. "The image of the Confederate flag is not something that should play an official role in our sport as we continue to reach out to new fans and make NASCAR more inclusive." Watson, who recently drove the car to the Phoenix Open golf tournament, wrote Thursday on Twitter: "Sorry to say @nascar won't let me drive The General Lee at the @PhoenixRaceway !!! #dreamcrushed." The Confederate flag still is flown by fans at many racetracks, particularly in the South. But NASCAR has made it clear over the years that it doesn't want to be associated with that image.(ESPN)(2-17-2012)
Isn't that silly. Let's see now, Charger was a Nascar, General Lee was supposed to be a Nascar. General Lee fame probably brought lots of fans to Nascar. Suddenly they don't like it. From up in the track tower, it must look like a swastika on the roof to them. Maybe they're worried that all the fans will cry out for real cars instead of those cookie cutter, template specials they run now. I've never been to a Nascar race but was thinking about it. They're not doing much to reach out to me as a new fan.
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 17, 2012, 07:12:13 PM
Yup, I postyed that in the Charger section already ;)
Ooops - Sorry - I was pondering where I should have put it.
And the cheating still goes on :scratchchin: I know, I know of course all of them cheat ::) but this seems to be a habit and wonder what will eventually happen to Knaus.....if anything?
Sad news for Chris Myers. His 19 year old son was killed. He will not be at Daytona for the broadcast this week.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/story/2012-02-17/Son-of-Fox-studio-host-Chris-Myers-killed/53137330/1
well,for the bud shoot out my driver knows the back bumper of everyone out there. ryan newman finished 7th. only because there was only 12 on the track. still my guy though.
Definatly a one of the most exciting Bud Shootouts ever. First time ever for Jeff Gorden getting on his roof in a cup car. I still don't like Kyle Busch, But he did deserve that one.
after gordon tried to wreck him and he saved it for the second time, yes he did deserve it. then gordon talks after the race sayin i dont know what happened, he was gettin loose like he did all night and i seen him wrecking so i tried to move up not knowing that someone was there. what a crock. but he did take him and jimmy out.
Heck of a race, Kyle knows how to drive and tonight he reminded everyone again! I have always liked him and the guy is a driver!!
Quote from: Indygenerallee on February 18, 2012, 11:50:48 PM
Heck of a race, Kyle knows how to drive and tonight he reminded everyone again! I have always liked him and the guy is a driver!!
Yes he can drive, but I can't stand his attitute. Although, I will go as far to say, he is better then Kurt
I hope Kyle's little "Time Out" session last year helps with his attitude this year...so far from what I have seen...he is doing better.....the one that will tell how his "anger management" issue is doing will be when someone dumps him on purpose.
The kid can drive, that's for sure
Bryan
I wonder how the teams are liking the EFI set ups, they haven't said a whole lot about it... I also wonder if Kurt Busch has finally learned his lesson, he was a far nicer guy, even after being wrecked by Jeff Gordon trying to push his brother Kyle Busch out of the way {wrecked along with a bunch of other cars & Jeff Gordon ending the his race, with MWR cars on fire & him upside down}, how about those short little rear spoilers, they are making the cars really squirrelly in drafting, they cant even touch in the corners hardly... good race, that Kyle is a great driver, but too bad his attitude doesn't match his driving talent, I guess we will see, he was a nicer version of Kyle this time... I actually heard some cheering, after he got out of the car, after he won the race... Checkers or wreckers...
The Fox Network is off in my area and can't watch qualifying :brickwall: anyone else?
Quote from: The70RT on February 19, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
The Fox Network is off in my area and can't watch qualifying :brickwall: anyone else?
No were getting it here in NorCal...
just watched the whole thing. danica did better than i expected, but there wernt any cars around her either.
I watched it. Carl Edwards POLE, Biffle 2nd.
Go Cousin Carl! :2thumbs:
The Fords look strong like they did last year at the 500.
fords were running strong. even trever in the woods car.
New Dodge Charger to be unveiled at Las Vegas
http://www.nascar.com/news/120220/2013-dodge-cup-series-car-las-vegas/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120220/2013-dodge-cup-series-car-las-vegas/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
The 2013 Dodge Charger that will be run in the Sprint Cup Series beginning next season will be unveiled Mar. 11 at Las Vegas Motor Speedway following the driver's meeting prior to the running of the Kobalt Tools 400.
Ralph Gilles, Dodge's president and CEO of street and racing technology brand and motorsports, said Monday that fans have been relentless in asking about when the new car for 2013 will be revealed. The 2013 race car will more closely resemble the version of the car that is available for sale to the general public, which was the main goal of the project, Gilles added.
"When we did the Nationwide Challenger in 2010, the response we got was, 'Hallelujah, finally the race car is looking a lot like the car we can buy and drive," Gilles said. "We've got two rear-drive muscle cars in the Challenger and a Charger, so it really fits NASCAR well."
"It's been tough to keep the covers on this car. We've been working on it for over two years, developing it."
Gilles said he is excited about how the car not only looks, but how it has performed to date in limited NASCAR tests.
"I'm very pleased with the way the car turned out," Gilles said. "I think people will be shocked. They won't believe their eyes when they look at what basically looks like a street car with some flat rubber on it. It will be interesting to see what the response to it is."
the car looks great, i cant tell from the angle, but is the front flat instead of laid back? seems like it will push air :shruggy:
what? from the angle i see that aint a dodge Charger, it only has 2 doors... :nana:
Considering the way that this country is headed with the insane political correctness and "cover your ass" mentality, I am not surprised at the General Lee snub. At the very least, they could have handled it better.
Nascar hasn't had real cars since the late 80s. I haven't watched a race since then.
Quote from: jar1292 on February 20, 2012, 08:14:10 PM
what? from the angle i see that aint a dodge Charger, it only has 2 doors... :nana:
It has no doors...LOL...
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 20, 2012, 04:21:23 PM
New Dodge Charger to be unveiled at Las Vegas
http://www.nascar.com/news/120220/2013-dodge-cup-series-car-las-vegas/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120220/2013-dodge-cup-series-car-las-vegas/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
The 2013 Dodge Charger that will be run in the Sprint Cup Series beginning next season will be unveiled Mar. 11 at Las Vegas Motor Speedway following the driver's meeting prior to the running of the Kobalt Tools 400.
Ralph Gilles, Dodge's president and CEO of street and racing technology brand and motorsports, said Monday that fans have been relentless in asking about when the new car for 2013 will be revealed. The 2013 race car will more closely resemble the version of the car that is available for sale to the general public, which was the main goal of the project, Gilles added.
"When we did the Nationwide Challenger in 2010, the response we got was, 'Hallelujah, finally the race car is looking a lot like the car we can buy and drive," Gilles said. "We've got two rear-drive muscle cars in the Challenger and a Charger, so it really fits NASCAR well."
"It's been tough to keep the covers on this car. We've been working on it for over two years, developing it."
Gilles said he is excited about how the car not only looks, but how it has performed to date in limited NASCAR tests.
"I'm very pleased with the way the car turned out," Gilles said. "I think people will be shocked. They won't believe their eyes when they look at what basically looks like a street car with some flat rubber on it. It will be interesting to see what the response to it is."
I like it, at least from that angle anyway, the front end/grill/fascia does look like it
won't be very aerodynamic though...
All the cars next year, will be more street version looking. I dont think Nascar cares about the arodynamics as much cause it will slow the cars down a bit... for a while anyway
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 21, 2012, 05:42:32 PM
All the cars next year, will be more street version looking. I dont think Nascar cares about the arodynamics as much cause it will slow the cars down a bit... for a while anyway
Yep that's another way to slow them down some, I wonder if it will make them push or oversteer or something, they will end up just compensating for some were else, I guess... It will be good to see cars more like the street versions, it's been way too long now...
Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on February 21, 2012, 02:15:52 AM
Nascar hasn't had real cars since the late 80s. I haven't watched a race since then.
Actually NASCAR hasn't had real cars since the late 60's.
Jeremy Mayfield says he is innocent
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/7599616/former-nascar-driver-jeremy-mayfield-says-innocent-theft-charges
Wow, I hope he is able to get his life back together someday. I always liked him as a driver.
But we all know sometimes people just loose thier course in life. Nothing good ever comes from gettng involved with drugs and one would think his Dr. would monitor and document any drugs (perscription or over the counter) he takes.
Not sure how you explain the posesion of 1.5 grams of methamphetamine.
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on February 21, 2012, 06:40:48 PM
Not sure how you explain the posesion of 1.5 grams of methamphetamine.
He was on a diet & sleeping too much.
Nascar's just gonna have to let Mopar have a little more power to compensate for aerodynamics.
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on February 21, 2012, 06:40:48 PM
Jeremy Mayfield says he is innocent
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/7599616/former-nascar-driver-jeremy-mayfield-says-innocent-theft-charges
Wow, I hope he is able to get his life back together someday. I always liked him as a driver.
But we all know sometimes people just loose thier course in life. Nothing good ever comes from gettng involved with drugs and one would think his Dr. would monitor and document any drugs (perscription or over the counter) he takes.
Not sure how you explain the posesion of 1.5 grams of methamphetam
:iagree:
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 06, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
I created a DC.com fantasy nascar team if anyone wants to play.
It is a private group for DC.com members.
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The Daytona 500 is rain delayed now til 6pm Eastern time tonight (Monday) on the Fox network.
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 27, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
The Daytona 500 is rain delayed now til 6pm Eastern time tonight (Monday) on the Fox network.
maybe.
yea mabey. just seen the radar and there is another small storm west of daytona. but after that, hopefully it will be on. :2thumbs:
Didn't NASCAR completely ignore the fans by using the generic "car of tomorrow" design in the first place? Is it any wonder that the fans like it when the car at least somewhat resembles the real thing?
Troy
They are not stock cars------they are Nascars
they re starting now on fox,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4 pm western time ,,,,later
jimmy j. is out along with a few more on lap 2
montoya takes out the jet dryer. crazy night :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 27, 2012, 10:03:38 PM
montoya takes out the jet dryer. crazy night :2thumbs:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419483_3144737548924_1579567989_32676280_1984926652_n.jpg)
Too bad they had a rookie operating the Lull (large forklift). Looks like he didn't pick the trailer unit up high enough and left a nice gouge in the hot asphalt.
Daytona 500 - Jet Dryer Crash - Fuel Fire - Juan Pablo Montoya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCHtZ6Tq0E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCHtZ6Tq0E)
Can you believe the driver of that jet dryer pulled out in front of Montoya like that.
Where do they get these track workers?
I think they should make him pay for that race car.
I think Montoya should pay for the jet dryer he wrecked..plus the track clean-up
Bryan
Matt Kenseth won the race. It ended about midnight central time.
Footnote in history:
Q. Who has lead a Daytona 500 race for the longest period of time?
A. Dave Blaney
:lol:
:smilielol: thats funny :2thumbs:
Great race.
That was exciting.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 22, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 06, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
I created a DC.com fantasy nascar team if anyone wants to play.
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Looks like it's just you & me. Just as well, better having just you pissed at me than a whole bunch of members. :insertsarcasm:
What's going on at .04. When Montoya hits the jet dryer it erupts instantly but not during this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN8FkedZlj0&feature=related
What are the chances of hitting a jet dryer during the Daytona 500?
...JUAN in a million! :nana:
I have a feeling after watching the races at Daytona that this year will be crash filled with the way these cars were revamped over the off season!!! I laughed my ass off when Montoya plowed into the Jet dryer!!! and yes the noob operating the forklift should never be allowed back on it again!! I was sitting there saying lift it higher dipshit!!! oh well we all can't be perfect!!! :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on February 28, 2012, 09:21:02 AM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 22, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 06, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
I created a DC.com fantasy nascar team if anyone wants to play.
It is a private group for DC.com members.
The group name is DC.com and the password is Mopar.
Just go to espn fantasy and join or pm Me Your email and I will send You an invite.
:bump:
I'll get You next week. LOL
Looks like it's just you & me. Just as well, better having just you pissed at me than a whole bunch of members. :insertsarcasm:
What's going on at .04. When Montoya hits the jet dryer is erupts instantly but not during this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN8FkedZlj0&feature=related
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on February 27, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
Can you believe the driver of that jet dryer pulled out in front of Montoya like that.
Where do they get these track workers?
I think they should make him pay for that race car.
The driver did not pull out in front of Montoya.
Montoya got sideways and hit the truck.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Daytona-500-Juan-Pablo-Montoya-crash-ignites-huge-fire-022712
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 28, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on February 27, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
Can you believe the driver of that jet dryer pulled out in front of Montoya like that.
Where do they get these track workers?
I think they should make him pay for that race car.
The driver did not pull out in front of Montoya.
Montoya got sideways and hit the truck.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Daytona-500-Juan-Pablo-Montoya-crash-ignites-huge-fire-022712
Yeah, I don't know which race you were watching. Something broke with Montoya's car causing him to lose control. It's just it happened at the most inopportune time.
i knida think steve was using a little sarcasm there. :shruggy: wild how that truck was just at the right spot to be involved and a miricle that juan wasnt hurt when his drivers side was engulfed in the explosion. :yesnod:
Quote from: Indygenerallee on February 28, 2012, 09:54:24 AM
and yes the noob operating the forklift should never be allowed back on it again!! I was sitting there saying lift it higher dipshit!!! oh well we all can't be perfect!!! :icon_smile_big:
I have no experience operating a forklift whatsoever, but I would presume that perhaps given the high banking of the track lifting it any higher may have been unsafe.
As far as the race goes, I thought that the end was anti-climactic. Mr Non-Excitement just kinda pulled away and Biffle was too much of a pussy to make a move and put himself in position to win. Lame.
Dodge Charger Pursuit to pace this weekend's Phoenix NASCAR races
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120228/CARNEWS/120229825 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120228/CARNEWS/120229825)
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 28, 2012, 02:01:25 PM
Dodge Charger Pursuit to pace this weekend's Phoenix NASCAR races
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120228/CARNEWS/120229825 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120228/CARNEWS/120229825)
That's cool :2thumbs:
I guess Montoya was still thinking of his only win at The Glen a few years ago....it's a road course...not sure why he was turning right at a left hand turn race track
Bryan :D
All I can say is........ :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Big penalty sends Johnson into negative territory
Knaus, No. 48 car chief hit with six-race suspensions; will work through appeal
http://www.nascar.com/news/120229/jjohnson-cknaus-48-team-penalties/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120229/jjohnson-cknaus-48-team-penalties/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
NASCAR penalized Johnson 25 points for modifications to car body pieces that it deemed illegal Feb. 17 in opening inspection for the Daytona 500. In addition, crew chief Chad Knaus and car chief Ron Malec have each been suspended from the next six Sprint Cup events, and Knaus also was fined $100,000. Johnson's team, Hendrick Motorsports, immediately announced it would appeal the penalty, and planned no personnel modifications for Phoenix -- meaning that Knaus and Malec would work until the appeal is held.
Hendrick is appealing claiming the car submitted is the same one raced at prior Daytona and Talladega races without alteration to the C pillars.
well, i could say alot of things like cheating has happened before with this team (cause i dont root for him) but i wont since im sure there are johnson fans here. i will just :smilielol:
Quote from: Aero426 on February 29, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
Hendrick is appealing claiming the car submitted is the same one raced at prior Daytona and Talladega races without alteration to the C pillars.
Well, if that's tha case, I guess NASCAR missed it the last time, lol.
now juan has hit everything on the track. but damm what a cool crash. loved it. my question to PONCH is how come mexicans fix everthing with bailing wire. glad that montoya was not hurt. he is a very nice guy. this is why i love NASCAR. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
-23 points!!! LMAO !! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Quote from: grdprx on February 29, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
-23 points!!! LMAO !! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
yea..no kiddin'
While not a 48 fan, I do not dislike the guy either. I do find it strange they have run this car before and NASCAR found nothing wrong with it. I am not really sure if NASCAR is correct in their decision about this. My guess would be there is more to the story then they are releasing at this point.
news anchor gets slapped on the hand for making a "B WORD" comment.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/san-diego-anchor-suspended-for-danica-patrick-comment-022912
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 01, 2012, 08:14:13 AM
news anchor gets slapped on the hand for making a "B WORD" comment.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/san-diego-anchor-suspended-for-danica-patrick-comment-022912
Wonder what Danica said to cause the Anchor to call Her the B word.
she asked if they couldnt find a different word to use to describe female athletes other than "sexy" to a different interviewer and this guy says i can think of a word that starts with b and it isnt beautiful.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 01, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
she asked if they couldnt find a different word to use to describe female athletes other than "sexy" to a different interviewer and this guy says i can think of a word that starts with b and it isnt beautiful.
Oh I read that, Guess I didn't put it togather.
Penske to switch to Ford for 2013.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 01, 2012, 10:33:55 AM
Penske to switch to Ford for 2013.
I read that too. Gotta wonder then, if Dodge will pull out of the Cup series as they are the only full time team running Dodges now. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Quote from: Aero426 on March 01, 2012, 10:33:55 AM
Penske to switch to Ford for 2013.
I don't think I can pull for R. Gordon. :eek2:
While I don't like it, it's better than Toyota like was rumored all the time when they joined the series. You can't help but wonder if Dodge isn't paying the teams again?
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 01, 2012, 07:56:25 AM
While not a 48 fan, I do not dislike the guy either. I do find it strange they have run this car before and NASCAR found nothing wrong with it. I am not really sure if NASCAR is correct in their decision about this. My guess would be there is more to the story then they are releasing at this point.
Question would be was that car inspected after it was ran before or are they all inspected nowadays. I thought it was random inspections. :shruggy:
If the car was inspected both times, that's pretty chicken shit.
Quote from: chargermike on February 29, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
now juan has hit everything on the track. but damm what a cool crash. loved it. my question to PONCH is how come mexicans fix everthing with bailing wire. glad that montoya was not hurt. he is a very nice guy. this is why i love NASCAR. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
For the same reason rednecks fix everything with duct tape or clean jet fuel off a race track with TIDE. Because it's cheap, readily available, and it works. :icon_smile_big:
Sucks to hear about Penske going to Ford. That leaves no top tier Dodge teams. Puts the manufacturer in the awkward position of revealing their new 2013 Cup car without a major team to run it. My guess is that they'll go after mid level Chevy or Toyota teams (Phoenix Racing, MWR) or try to entice a fledging owner by offering all types of support. Maybe Rusty will revive his NNS team and move it to Cup. And of course, Dodge could try to get Petty back.
For the same reason rednecks fix everything with duct tape or clean jet fuel off a race track with TIDE. Because it's cheap, readily available, and it works. :icon_smile_big:
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I love duct tape :2thumbs:
Especially 200 MPH duct tape
Quote from: Ponch ® on March 01, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
And of course, Dodge could try to get Petty back.
Dodge has approached Petty but I doubt they would switch back unless they are offered big bucks AND a promise from Dodge not to abandon them after two years. With all the ownership changes over the recant years I'd be leery of teaming up with Dodge.
Also, I am already F*CKIN* sick of the Danica coverage. Maybe if I found her remotely attractive that would help but she looks like a little boy with make up and long hair.
im not a danica fan. but whats happening is why they brought her up to the big time. she never proved herself in the nationwide series, but she draws attention.(taking it away from the real news makers) hopefully it will die down a little soon, cuz she is all they want to talk about. guess that throws a wrench in the jimmy,jeff,jr show. they would get interviewed finishing 32nd and skip the guy that finishes 4th. now its the danica show. hey danica, we noticed that when they anounced gentelmen and lady start your engines, you started right up and didnt wait. is there any comment on that? um uh yes i was right there hitting that button right when they said to because thats what ive been trained to do. ok guys you seen it here. her reaction time was great. now how about a danica pre race interview followed by a danica commercial.
Next weeks unveiling of the new charger could be interesting next week in Vegas if they don't cancel it. :shruggy:
I think they will pull out for 2 reasons this statement:
Our motorsports involvement isn't limited to NASCAR. We do value our NASCAR program and will be evaluating the opportunities available moving forward. As those opportunities materialize, we'll reveal our 2013 plans, not only in NASCAR but in other forms of motorsports."(Dodge PR)(3-1-2012)
Second: any team they bring on will need a motor program, only the super teams build the race motors these days. with no super team no motor program no middle level team can switch without a motor program.
Unless Dodge sets one up for them, unlikely :brickwall: maybe they could buy the penske motor shop? :nana:
Petty is so connected with roush its unlikely they could do it. If they did I don't think they would run upfront let-alone win.
Get your dodge gear this year before its all gone... :'(
http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-dodge-charger-nascar-sprint-cup-car-unveiled/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-dodge-charger-nascar-sprint-cup-car-unveiled/) :scratchchin: Now they just have to find a team to drive it....
Dan
I dont see it happening , but who knows :shruggy: All that hoop la and no one to drive it .
Yea, I dont see dodge staying in cup much longer. But I also think they shot themself's in the foot by not paying teams like Petty and stuff. They also need to have a better engine deal.
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 12, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
Yea, I dont see dodge staying in cup much longer. But I also think they shot themself's in the foot by not paying teams like Petty and stuff. They also need to have a better engine deal.
the "not paying teams" deal was during the bankruptcy / bailout crisis. Obviously Chrysler is in a better place right now. It's possible that Sergio could decide to pull the plug on their NASCAR effort, but I still maintain that theyre going to lure a couple of teams by making them an offer they can't refuse. As for the engine deal, maybe Dodge will do what Toyota did when it first moved up to cup and have one factory engine program to provide motors to all of their teams until some of them can get their own deal going.
Dodge isn't going anywhere
Good race RT Mike
186 ain't bad.
Great a win for Dodge & the Blue Deuce at Bristol, congrats to Penski Racing & Brad Keslowski {spelling?}
They should change NASCAR's name to HASCAR(Hendrick Association for Stock Car Auto Racing). ::)
They rescinded the 25 point penalty and the 6 week suspensions. The $100,000 fine was still upheld.
What a joke. How does NASCAR expect to have any integrity when they let a guy off who has repeatedly been caught cheating? Nice they had a former GM exec make the call. What a crock.
Quote from: General_01 on March 20, 2012, 04:21:49 PM
They should change NASCAR's name to HASCAR(Hendrick Association for Stock Car Auto Racing). ::)
They rescinded the 25 point penalty and the 6 week suspensions. The $100,000 fine was still upheld.
What a joke. How does NASCAR expect to have any integrity when they let a guy off who has repeatedly been caught cheating? Nice they had a former GM exec make the call. What a crock.
I guess that's why they say :hah: "
if your not cheating, your not trying"... Maybe the saying should be, "
If your not cheating {Chad/Jimmy}, your not winning 5 championships in a row"
What bothered me about the alleged infraction is that NASCAR never put the templates on the car to verify it was outside the box. Also, the penalty was stiff considering the car never saw the race track at Daytona 2012. The problem was found when the car was presented for an initial inspection.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 20, 2012, 05:25:22 PM
What bothered me about the alleged infraction is that NASCAR never put the templates on the car to verify it was outside the box. Also, the penalty was stiff considering the car never saw the race track at Daytona 2012. The problem was found when the car was presented for an initial inspection.
The template is made to go across the center of the c pillar. It sounded to me like the template fit there, but Johnson's team reworked the areas on either side of where the template goes. The teams have been told from the beginning that they cannot touch the car body. Also, I have no problem with the penalty. They brought the car there like that. It's not like they brought the car there and were going to replace the pillars before they hit the track.
Quote from: General_01 on March 20, 2012, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on March 20, 2012, 05:25:22 PM
What bothered me about the alleged infraction is that NASCAR never put the templates on the car to verify it was outside the box. Also, the penalty was stiff considering the car never saw the race track at Daytona 2012. The problem was found when the car was presented for an initial inspection.
The template is made to go across the center of the c pillar. It sounded to me like the template fit there, but Johnson's team reworked the areas on either side of where the template goes. The teams have been told from the beginning that they cannot touch the car body. Also, I have no problem with the penalty. They brought the car there like that. It's not like they brought the car there and were going to replace the pillars before they hit the track.
Yep they knew damn well, they were cheating when the car came out of the shop, let alone in line at tech. or trying to cheat at least... The fine is chump change, just a slap on the hand...
Man, that's bogus! The point deduction got rescinded?! Fines are meaningless in a multimillion dollar sport. Oh well, love to hate the 48.
did they comment that they used the same setup in 2 races last year and wernt caught so it shouldnt count against them now? :shruggy: anyway, thought i heard something like that at the beginning of this whole mess. jimmy and the whole hendrick team is a joke. its the cheater the whinner and the cry baby all running under the same flag. cant stand any of the three. nascar failed me as a fan. why have rules if you can just keep crying until you get to someone that will just let it go. :rotz:
Yes, they said they had raced it just like it was at Talledega. I guess that means if you speed down a street and don't get caught you can speed down that street forever "because you did it before and nobody said anything to me". That dumbass John Middlebrook screwed NASCAR big time by letting his good buddy Rick Hendrick off the hook. I watched "The Hub" tonight and pretty much everybody who is anybody in NASCAR is totally shocked by the ruling. What does that tell you?
I know one guy who is going to be totally pissed is Richard Childress. Clint Bowyer got hammered last year with a penalty during the Chase. He must not be on a first name basis with Middlebrook like Rick Hendrick is. ::)
I really hate the decision by Nascar if JJ and his team were cheating.
I think that the Officials play faveriots some times, But I still like Nascar and there are a lot of good moral teams and drivers.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 20, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
did they comment that they used the same setup in 2 races last year and wernt caught so it shouldnt count against them now? :shruggy: anyway, thought i heard something like that at the beginning of this whole mess. jimmy and the whole hendrick team is a joke. its the cheater the whinner and the cry baby all running under the same flag. cant stand any of the three. nascar failed me as a fan. why have rules if you can just keep crying until you get to someone that will just let it go. :rotz:
:2thumbs: Amen brother :cheers:
Cheating has always been part of the sport. Those of you who yearn for the good ol' days of the 60's and 70's tend to forget that cheating was even more rampant back then, and even praise the likes of Smokey Yunick. I say unless theyre doing something egregious (like running a bigger engine or something like that), let em be creative.
i look back at the treatment that the other cheaters like waltrip got. you get caught you pay the piper. well you do unless you are on a certain team. michael waltrip and richard childress should be throwing a fit right now.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 21, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
i look back at the treatment that the other cheaters like waltrip got. you get caught you pay the piper. well you do unless you are on a certain team. michael waltrip and richard childress should be throwing a fit right now.
Amen again brother, your spot on... the #24, #48 & #88 will never be treated like the others, it's kind of like the Dale E. sr. deal, he could get away with
WAY more than anyone else could because he was in
extremely good graces with the 2 Bill's France Jr. & Sr. owners & promoters of NASCAR...
f---ing Reutimann. That is all.
Quote from: Ponch ® on April 02, 2012, 12:18:21 PM
f---ing Reutimann. That is all.
He was doing his job, which is trying to keep the car number in the top 35 for the little lady.
Sucky deal all the way around.
my man ryan newman got his win and the clock. :drive:
At least it wasn't Jeff Gordon or Jimmy Johnson, I was routing for the blue deuce the whole time...
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 02, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
my man ryan newman got his win and the clock. :drive:
A great win for Ryan, it was nice to see him get another win.
Of course he needs to buy Clint a dinner at Outback for that one.
yep, clint cleared the way. and the dinger did dodge proud hanging in there for second. he stayed right with ryan through the 1st lap. his best cup finish so far. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Budnicks on April 02, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
At least it wasn't Jeff Gordon or Jimmy Johnson, I was routing for the blue deuce the whole time...
:iagree:
I like Brad.
He's becoming a really strong competitor.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on April 03, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 02, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
At least it wasn't Jeff Gordon or Jimmy Johnson, I was routing for the blue deuce the whole time...
:iagree:
I like Brad.
He's becoming a really strong competitor.
Are you guys still gonna be on the bandwagon when he's driving a Fusion next year?
Quote from: Ponch ® on April 03, 2012, 04:43:26 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on April 03, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 02, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
At least it wasn't Jeff Gordon or Jimmy Johnson, I was routing for the blue deuce the whole time...
:iagree:
I like Brad.
He's becoming a really strong competitor.
Are you guys still gonna be on the bandwagon when he's driving a Fusion next year?
I will Still like Brad as a driver.
The Fusion, I can do without.
Dodge car's are becoming rare in Nascar, I hope things change.
There are only like 9 Dodge cars running and most of them are Guy's like Scott Wimmer, Mike Garvey, Derrike Cope, And Terry Cook, Who Dont Qualify.
I really hope Brad And AJ Stay's with Dodge.
Wont happen if he contracts have already been signed with Ford.
BTW, I always liked AJ and Brad. I always followed his Brad's dad too in the ARCA series (yes, I follow that too). I dont care what he drives. I like him cause of his personality.
The first time Dodge wins at Talledega since 1976 with Dave Marcis in the K&K Dodge Charger!!!!
Way to go Brad Keselowski!!! :2thumbs: :cheers:
sweet move at the end to leave kyle. good race. :2thumbs:
Pretty cool win, I was kind of rooting for Kurt Busch and his "Ricky Bobby" car absolutely hilarious they said it even had a stuffed Cougar in the interior and they were actually referring to Kurt as Ricky over the headset! :lol:
i was too. that was hilarious. but when he got spun out and tony got caught up in it, i was all about brad. kyle did a great thing pushing, but glad he didnt pull the move off. :2thumbs:
He couldn't have done it without Busch pushing him. They flew by Kenseth & Biffle.
Brad showed nothing but class when he got out of the car & the 1st thing he mentioned was his admiration & joy from running with Kurt when they were team mates & how he was sorry for spinning him out.
If you paid attention Brad did the exact same move with the younger Busch at the end & it worked flawlessly. Of course it wouldn't have worked if Kyle wasn't on the same page. It would have been so easy for him to take Brad out & then accuse him of hitting the brakes or something. Nice, clean finish for Baby Busch, I was impressed. Maybe being married has him looking @ life differently?
It's gonna suck to have Penske leaving. I don't understand, why mess with something that's working?
Petty's contract with Ford ends this season & they're not having luck in getting an extension signed. One of the bigger problems with Dodge is who builds the motors? Penske's not lucky enough to have connections like the super teams.
There's talk Dodge might have to do what Toyota did & start building the motors for the teams to entice teams to switch.
I only watched the last 50 or so laps, was wondering what was up with the Ricky Bobby reference, ha.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 28, 2008, 01:29:29 PM
Quote from: skip68 on February 27, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
NASCAR IS IN VEGAS THIS WEEKEND !!!!!! Woo hoo! :2thumbs:
The Skips ;)
Quote from: 68chrgrwife on February 28, 2008, 12:31:05 AM
I so want to go see the race
No you don't. Trust me. I did a NASCAR weekend in Vegas a couple of years ago....never again. First, the whole town (meaning the hotels, casinos, etc) is overrun by people wearing mullets, extremely old and ill fitting Purolator trucker hats, and 20 year old Rusty Wallace MGD white t-shirts that are almost see through at this point. You have to wait an eternity to get a table even at the crappy Sahara cafe, and getting to and from the track is a frigging nightmare (unless you wanna shell out $30 or more per person for one of those shuttles from the Strip - which, by the way, will be full of the above mentioned mulletteers, who are now drunk...)
And how is this any different from a NASCAR race anywhere else?
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 06, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
The first time Dodge wins at Talledega since 1976 with Dave Marcis in the K&K Dodge Charger!!!!
Way to go Brad Keselowski!!! :2thumbs: :cheers:
:cheers: :2thumbs: :cheers: :2thumbs: Good for the Penske Team Dodge & a Charger too boot... :2thumbs: :cheers: :2thumbs:
When is NASCAR going to get serious about Kurt Busch? And after last nights race this is just another example of why the guy has to go for at least the rest of the season. I can see the guy losing his ride though before NASCAR cuts him loose. They are riding around in a car without sponsers, as most sponsers do not want to be associated with him.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on May 13, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
When is NASCAR going to get serious about Kurt Busch? And after last nights race this is just another example of why the guy has to go for at least the rest of the season. I can see the guy losing his ride though before NASCAR cuts him loose. They are riding around in a car without sponsers, as most sponsers do not want to be associated with him.
What did I miss? After they interveiwed Rick Hendrick, I turned the tv off, I didnt wanna here Johnson kissing his ass in the winners circle.
Kurt did nothing wrong, he did not hit anyone he spun himself out then ryan newman locked his car up and spun his car out and then to top it all off after they were in the pits one of Newmans team came over to kurt buschs stall and started a fight.
This is from JAYSKI:
Newman, Busch called to NASCAR hauler after Darlington race: Several of #39-Ryan Newman's crewmen confronted #51-Kurt Busch on Saturday night at Darlington Raceway following an ill-advised decision by Busch to do a burnout through Newman's pit box. After Busch had a flat tire and crashed with six laps remaining - an incident which also collected Newman - the Phoenix Racing driver lost his cool and began yelling on the team radio. When Busch completed his pit stop to fix damage shortly after the wreck, he & did a loud, angry burnout while leaving his pit box. The burnout startled fans in the stands and put up a huge plume of smoke, an expression of Busch's frustration at a promising night gone bad. But while doing the burnout, Busch drove through Newman's pit box as well - and several Newman crew members were still over the wall after recently completing service on the #39 car. Among the angry crewmen was Newman's gas man, Andy Rueger, who went to the #51 hauler to await Busch's arrival. Rueger planned to confront Busch immediately after the race. But Busch's team knew Newman's crew was upset, and so crew chief Nick Harrison instructed Busch to stop at the entrance of pit road and leave the car there instead. The driver was livid on the radio and had been screaming obscenities during the final few laps, and the team felt it would be a good idea for him just to get off the track. Words were exchanged between the crewmen and Busch, and a NASCAR official fell onto Busch's hood in the process. Though contact with Rueger sparked the official's tumble, NASCAR's Robin Pemberton said the official just lost his footing. It's unclear whether NASCAR will issue any penalties in this situation. If NASCAR feels its official tumbled onto the hood on his own, then Newman's gas man could go unpunished.(SB Nation)
AND: #39-Ryan Newman had strong words for #51-Kurt Busch after their incident Saturday night. Here's what Newman told [Dustin Long] in a one-on-one conversation about the incident:
(WHAT HAPPENED?)
"I'm not sure what happened. It's easy to see and it's easy to say that Kurt blew a fuse again. I'm not sure why he did it and tried to run over our guys and NASCAR officials. And nobody is. I think the chemical imbalance speaks for itself. Kurt drilled me in pit lane and said that he was taking his helmet off and he didn't see where he was going, which I'm pretty sure there were 42 other guys that are taking their helmets off and doing whatever for the last 10 years and that's the first time that's happened to me. Circumstances I think are that he lied and was so frustrated that he doesn't know how to deal with his anger.
(WHAT NOW?)
"From my standpoint, that's the second offense on Kurt when he did retaliation on (teammate Tony) Stewart's crew and the officials there. I can voice my opinion on what they should do to him but that's not going to solve anything.
(YOU WENT IN TO NASCAR HAULER VOLUNTARILY?)
"No. They asked me to come in because they didn't know everything that happened on pit road. They just really wanted to know my side of that story. That was it. They said you're good to go.
(HE SAID HE JUST HIT YOU ON PIT ROAD)
"He said he was taking his helmet off, which I think was a lie.
(ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT HIM AS A DRIVER)
"Everybody has for the last 10 years. He's proven that. When you can't keep a job, it's pretty obvious."(Posted to Twitter by Dustin Long)(5-13-2012)
Quote from: Indygenerallee on May 13, 2012, 11:03:51 AM
Kurt did nothing wrong, he did not hit anyone he spun himself out then ryan newman locked his car up and spun his car out and then to top it all off after they were in the pits one of Newmans team came over to kurt buschs stall and started a fight.
Were there two different races on last night? One were Kurt was a normal driver and another one when he went smoking his tires down through the pits almost taking out Newmans crew while on a obscenity laced tirade. Oh, and then running into Ryans car, while parked, for no reason.
Sorry, there is no way to defend the a-hole.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/story/2012-05-12/Kurt-Busch-Ryan-Newman-crews-scuffle/54929752/1
TV didn't report the real story why the Newman crew was upset. The production crew had to know what was going on by the driver radio transmissions before the end of the race.
Quote from: Aero426 on May 13, 2012, 04:09:41 PM
TV didn't report the real story why the Newman crew was upset. The production crew had to know what was going on by the driver radio transmissions before the end of the race.
Yep. I was trying to figure why the 39 crew was so ticked off with Kurt after his self spin. Now I wish that gas man had gotten his hands on him. :o
BBD
Kurt may never get another sponsor now, Not that He had a chance this Year anyway.
He should have played this Year by the books and maybe next year he could have got sponsored.
Did Kurt and Kyle trade attitude. :scratchchin:
Use to be the opposite
I personally liked the days when the guys had a hard edge and if they had a beef they got out of the cars and traded punches, too many gel haired PC folks in Nascar just like them not allowing Bubba Watson to pace the race in Arizona I believe because the General Lee had a confederate flag!! :smilielol: :lol: Nascar quit being Nascar when Dale Sr. died.
on top of everything else said, newman didnt lock it up and hit kurt. he checked up and was hit from behind which spun him out. kurt was driving a car that was out of control. he hit almost every foot of the wall over 2 laps before spinning out. when your on ice scates and arent going to win, why the heck wouldnt you hit the pits and get tires and adjustments? not kurt. need to ban him and get him some help.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on May 13, 2012, 06:42:39 PM
Kurt may never get another sponsor now, Not that He had a chance this Year anyway.
He should have played this Year by the books and maybe next year he could have got sponsored.
Did Kurt and Kyle trade attitude. :scratchchin:
Use to be the opposite
So sad, he was such a good driver & went to hell in a hand basket, got too big of a head... Yes the brothers swap personalities, I think...
New episode of "Kurt Busch, Radio Sweetheart".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_8LsVfFxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_8LsVfFxc)
Maybe Kurt should have got out of his car and ran around the track screaming and flailing around "Im on FIRE!" might have helped a little with his frustration, The guy had a bad day and I would have too after his finish at Talledega and then the other night, and with not having a sponsor I would say it culmulated into one big blow up, does that mean ban him forever?? No, he is just showing he is human hell Tony Stewart used to get physical with reporters! he finally found his happy place and does not stir the pot anymore, Bad day, bad week, bad year? I have had one of each! We all have our temper tantrums.
Quote from: Indygenerallee on May 16, 2012, 12:08:49 AM
Maybe Kurt should have got out of his car and ran around the track screaming and flailing around "Im on FIRE!" might have helped a little with his frustration, The guy had a bad day and I would have too after his finish at Talledega and then the other night, and with not having a sponsor I would say it culmulated into one big blow up, does that mean ban him forever?? No, he is just showing he is human hell Tony Stewart used to get physical with reporters! he finally found his happy place and does not stir the pot anymore, Bad day, bad week, bad year? I have had one of each! We all have our temper tantrums.
Are you kidding me? Kurt is on his way to banning himself. He has become almost untouchable for a major sponsor.
being mad at what happened on the track to his car is one thing. the smoky burnout in his pit and running through someone elses pit doing your burnout is just plain insane. a controled temper tantrum is one thing. he has no control over his anger. what if during his smoky burnout he ran over a crew member? spun out going through someones pit and hit a couple people? a nascar official stays in the pit box while the team sweeps their pit area. so i guess one of them was almost hit also. time to quit slapping his hand and bust his a$$. sit him down for the year and get him some anger management. he can drive, but right now he is out of control.
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 16, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
being mad at what happened on the track to his car is one thing. the smoky burnout in his pit and running through someone elses pit doing your burnout is just plain insane. a controled temper tantrum is one thing. he has no control over his anger. what if during his smoky burnout he ran over a crew member? spun out going through someones pit and hit a couple people? a nascar official stays in the pit box while the team sweeps their pit area. so i guess one of them was almost hit also. time to quit slapping his hand and bust his a$$. sit him down for the year and get him some anger management. he can drive, but right now he is out of control.
I agree, they guy needs to be parked for a year. It is not like this is a one time deal, he has been acting like this his entire career.
NASCAR needs to quit screwing around with Kurt and actually take a stand. This latest incident got him probation for 2 months and a $50,000.00 fine. Are you f-ing kidding me? He is on probation every other week, it is time to take the guy out behind the woodshed.
Lack of sponsorship will end Kurts career before NASCAR will finally have the guts to punish him.
the new Jeremy... did it to himself
What I can't understand, with his little boy temper and attitude, how the hell does he find these women that like him :/ No money is worth that attitude :P
Quote from: chargerboy69 on May 16, 2012, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 16, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
being mad at what happened on the track to his car is one thing. the smoky burnout in his pit and running through someone elses pit doing your burnout is just plain insane. a controled temper tantrum is one thing. he has no control over his anger. what if during his smoky burnout he ran over a crew member? spun out going through someones pit and hit a couple people? a nascar official stays in the pit box while the team sweeps their pit area. so i guess one of them was almost hit also. time to quit slapping his hand and bust his a$$. sit him down for the year and get him some anger management. he can drive, but right now he is out of control.
I agree, they guy needs to be parked for a year. It is not like this is a one time deal, he has been acting like this his entire career.
NASCAR needs to quit screwing around with Kurt and actually take a stand. This latest incident got him probation for 2 months and a $50,000.00 fine. Are you f-ing kidding me? He is on probation every other week, it is time to take the guy out behind the woodshed.
Lack of sponsorship will end Kurts career before NASCAR will finally have the guts to punish him.
are you guys serious? "He needs to be parked for a year" "He should be banned" "Phoenix oughtta fire him". GTFO. All you guys do is complain how drivers are all lame and vanilla nowadays. As boring as this season has been, I'm liking Kurt even more in a "I wanna see what kinda shit he pulls next" kinda way.
Bring on the chicks!
There is a cat fight in turn 4......
yep ponch, lets let him keep running angry. inflicting his feelings on whoever is around him. right up to the point where he flips out and t bones someone in the drivers door cuz hes P.O.'D. how can nascar allow anyone to drive through another crews pit area doing a burnout and then ram that drivers car after the race and not be casterated? i have to say though, i will be rooting for kurt in his next race also. rooting that he meets the wall early in the race. :2thumbs:
Chevrolet to debut rear-wheel-drive SS next year
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chevrolet-debut-rear-wheel-drive-214451890--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chevrolet-debut-rear-wheel-drive-214451890--nascar.html)
"DETROIT (AP) For the first time in nearly two decades, the Chevrolet brand will have a big, rear-wheel-drive sedan in its U.S. lineup.
General Motors Co. said Thursday that the 2014 Chevrolet SS will go on sale in limited numbers late next year. The V8-powered SS is a version of the Holden VF Commodore, a rear-wheel-drive sedan sold in Australia. It will be made in Australia.
The new SS will also be Chevrolet's NASCAR Sprint Cup contender, replacing the Impala. It will debut in its race configuration at the 2013 Daytona 500.
GM issued a photo of a camouflaged SS on a test track, but otherwise released few details.
The SS won't be Chevy's only rear-wheel-drive vehicle. The Chevrolet Camaro is also rear-wheel-drive, but it's a two-door coupe powered by a V6 engine. And the Corvette is a V8-powered rear-wheel-drive sports car, but it doesn't have the space of a four-door sedan.
GM spokesman Monte Doran said enthusiasts have been clamoring for a rear-wheel-drive sedan since GM discontinued the Chevrolet Caprice and Impala SS sedans in 1996. Performance enthusiasts prefer rear-wheel-drive cars because they accelerate faster and handle better.
The timing is awkward for a V8-powered gas guzzler, with gas prices high and fuel economy standards rising. But Doran stressed that the SS won't hurt Chevrolet's overall fuel economy because it will be sold in very small numbers to a core group of enthusiasts.
''This is by no means a mainstream car,'' he said.
SS is short for Super Sport. The designation has a long history within the Chevrolet brand. It first appeared in 1957 on a Corvette prototype race car, and was first offered as an option on a standard production sedan with the 1961 Impala. The latest SS model in Chevy's lineup is the fifth-generation Camaro, which debuted in 2010.
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Wow, and now I know why Ryan has not re-signed with Tony. I don't know if I would move, Stewart has a good, solid team with Hendrick goodies. Plus, being team mates with Kurt again, no thanks. Good luck finding a sponsor for Kurt if this deal happened. Kennseth is running without sponsorship, so why would any company put their money towards Kurts temper and spoiled brat attitude.
Andretti to NASCAR...with Dodge? UPDATE: Multiple sources have told FOXSports.com that one of the latest candidates for Dodge Motorsports could be Michael Andretti, owner of Andretti Autosport. With Roger Penske's departure from Dodge at the end of the 2012 season, the door is open for new organizations to enter the fold. In addition to Andretti, Richard Petty Motorsports and Furniture Row Racing are the top contenders to field Dodges in 2013. An announcement regarding Dodge's lineup, as well as its engine building plans, could come as early as the weekend of the NASCAR races at Michigan, June 15-17. Andretti currently fields three full-time teams in the IndyCar Series with drivers Marco Andretti, Ryan Hunter-Reay and James Hinchcliffe. It is unlikely that Andretti would use open-wheel talent for a NASCAR venture. Two names mentioned as possibilities to drive for the team are Ryan Newman and Kurt Busch, both of whom have established relationships with Dodge.(FoxSports)(5-18-2012)
WOW! I didnt know Ryan has not re-signed with Tony yet.
Yep, Tonys trying to get the deal done, but. . . . They are best friends off the track so I can not really see Ryan leaving unless sponsorship becomes a issue. Rumor has it all military sponsorship may be pulled after the 2012 season due to budget cuts.
Stewart hopes to re-sign Newman: #14-Tony Stewart would like Stewart-Haas Racing to have three full-time teams in 2013, but has not yet signed driver #39-Ryan Newman to a new deal. Newman agreed to drive for the team when Stewart became co-owner starting with the 2009 season. Newman is not yet signed for 2013. Danica Patrick is expected to drive for the team full time next season in the #10 GoDaddy.com Chevy after a 10-race Cup schedule this year. "I want him back next year," Stewart said Tuesday. "Obviously we're working on sponsorship to make sure we have got the funding to keep that going. Ryan and I are on the same page. He knows what we're trying to do and I have every intention of keeping him for next year."(Sporting News and PRN's Garage Pass)(5-17-2012)
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 16, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
i have to say though, i will be rooting for kurt in his next race also. rooting that he meets the wall early in the race. :2thumbs:
so youre saying it's going to add to the excitement?
Quote from: chargerboy69 on May 18, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
Wow, and now I know why Ryan has not re-signed with Tony. I don't know if I would move, Stewart has a good, solid team with Hendrick goodies. Plus, being team mates with Kurt again, no thanks. Good luck finding a sponsor for Kurt if this deal happened. Kennseth is running without sponsorship, so why would any company put their money towards Kurts temper and spoiled brat attitude.
Andretti to NASCAR...with Dodge? UPDATE: Multiple sources have told FOXSports.com that one of the latest candidates for Dodge Motorsports could be Michael Andretti, owner of Andretti Autosport. With Roger Penske's departure from Dodge at the end of the 2012 season, the door is open for new organizations to enter the fold. In addition to Andretti, Richard Petty Motorsports and Furniture Row Racing are the top contenders to field Dodges in 2013. An announcement regarding Dodge's lineup, as well as its engine building plans, could come as early as the weekend of the NASCAR races at Michigan, June 15-17. Andretti currently fields three full-time teams in the IndyCar Series with drivers Marco Andretti, Ryan Hunter-Reay and James Hinchcliffe. It is unlikely that Andretti would use open-wheel talent for a NASCAR venture. Two names mentioned as possibilities to drive for the team are Ryan Newman and Kurt Busch, both of whom have established relationships with Dodge.(FoxSports)(5-18-2012)
That's great news
Quote from: Ponch ® on May 18, 2012, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 16, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
i have to say though, i will be rooting for kurt in his next race also. rooting that he meets the wall early in the race. :2thumbs:
so youre saying it's going to add to the excitement?
ha ha yea, your right. i used to love hateing dale sr. and when he died, it took something away. i guess we all need someone to root against. i thought i had that taken care of with jimmy j.,jeff g., and little e. but i can add another name to the list. :2thumbs:
Got home today in time to watch (and sleep thru) the last 33 laps. Stands looked half empty or worse. How soon before NASCAR starts cutting back races at tracks that have poor attendance.
yea..no kidding.....I fell asleep as well.....all 3 races at that track were boring this weekend
Bryan
NASCAR has been boring since it stopped being a Southern good ole boy sport without restrictor plates. I haven't watched more than 2 races since DW retired.
Quote from: NHCharger on June 03, 2012, 08:57:03 PM
Got home today in time to watch (and sleep thru) the last 33 laps. Stands looked half empty or worse. How soon before NASCAR starts cutting back races at tracks that have poor attendance.
I paused the race a few times to look at the empty stands. On sections of stands, they had huge sponsorship banners covering the seats. If not for those banners, the crowd would have looked even thinner.
A couple friends I have who attend roughly eight races a year, they have cut back to around two this year. For them, they said it is not because of "bad racing", but higher prices for tickets and from the tracks. Both guys will take their motorhomes and camp for a few days, and they told me camping prices have gone through the roof over the last couple years. Ticket prices have also gone up, not to mention $4.00 a gallon gas to get you there.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 04, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
Ticket prices have also gone up, not to mention $4.00 a gallon gas to get you there.
Two years ago my Dad and I went to the Nationwide race on Saturday at NHIS. Tics were $50.00 each. They were selling tics for the cup race for $49.00 to try and get a sellout. Eight years ago my friend was selling cup tics for double or triple the face value and there was a waiting list for tics to the cup races. Oh how times have changed.
Nascar today does nothing for me. Personally, I'd rather watch one of these races:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m7T0H0t5t8&feature=relmfu
At least you can tell the brands of car you're rooting for rather than a generic melted soap bar with decals.
Have a seat Kurt. :2thumbs:
UPDATE: NASCAR has suspended driver Kurt Busch until June 13 of this year and extended his NASCAR probation until Dec. 31 for his actions following the NASCAR Nationwide Series race June 2 at Dover International Speedway. Kurt Busch violated Section 12-1 (Actions detrimental to stock car racing; violation of probation; verbal abuse to a media member) of the 2012 NASCAR Rule Book. Kurt Busch had previously been placed on NASCAR probation May 15 for his actions during the May 12 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series event at Darlington Raceway. That probation was originally scheduled to end July 25 but has now been extended through the end of this year.(NASCAR)(6-4-2012)
Statement from Busch: "I accept NASCAR's decision. I put them in a box, they had to take action and it's my fault for putting them in this position. I apologize for the comments I made to Bob Pockrass."(True Speed Communications)(6-4-2012)
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 04, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Yep, went ballistic on a Speed reporter after the Nationwide race. Thats a no, no when on probation.
Obviously the guy has not learned anything yet and his team can not find a company to sponsor him. I am guessing it will not be long before he loses his ride.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 04, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 04, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Yep, went ballistic on a Speed reporter after the Nationwide race. Thats a no, no when on probation.
Obviously the guy has not learned anything yet and his team can not find a company to sponsor him. I am guessing it will not be long before he loses his ride.
Kurt's really digging a deep hole.
Makes Me wonder if His career is on the line.
If He keeps up these outburst He will never get sponsored.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on June 04, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 04, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 04, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Yep, went ballistic on a Speed reporter after the Nationwide race. Thats a no, no when on probation.
Obviously the guy has not learned anything yet and his team can not find a company to sponsor him. I am guessing it will not be long before he loses his ride.
Kurt's really digging a deep hole.
Makes Me wonder if His career is on the line.
If He keeps up these outburst He will never get sponsored.
The great thing is that after this year no one will hire him and he will say that NASCAR blackballed him because of how great a driver he is.
ESPN reporting this, looks like Kurt may be losing his ride. NASCAR is not about just getting behind the wheel and driving anymore, you have to be the smiling spokes-person for your sponsor too.
"Phoenix Racing owner James Finch isn't so sure the driver will return immediately after serving the suspension, saying he will sit down with Busch over the next couple of days to see if they will move forward together.
"If he's going to kill himself I'm not going to be in the airplane with him," Finch told ESPN.com by phone. "If that's what he's planning on doing, I am going to get out."
Finch said he was in the process of looking for a driver to replace Busch for Pocono and possibly beyond. Among the candidates he mentioned were Brian Vickers and David Reutimann, although Reutimann was scheduled to drive the No. 10 for Tommy Baldwin Racing this weekend."
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/8008870/nascar-suspends-kurt-busch-pocono-weekend
wow, you talk about a driver with talent that cant keep himself under control.the guy is a lose cannon. :2thumbs:
I'm not a real big Kurt fan, but he's being chastised for just speaking his mind... What can't a driver have an outburst or an opinion any longer ??... Are they all suppose to be robots & gutless wonders, with no opinion & thoughts of there own... Nascar is taking his livelihood away, be it right or wrong, he is the poster child for this stuff now... I saw this stuff about Kurt on Wind Tunnel some if not all of the commentators Dave Despain & some Indy guy, Tommy Kendell & Paul Tracey both racers or ex-racers, on there thought he brought million's of dollars of free exposer to his ride, did not drive it away, at all, the old adage is any sponsor exposer is good, as long as it's not racist or derogatory or something along those lines, or to offend the main stream, it's good for the sponsors & sport to get exposer, even if it's not the best type like bashing a annoying weaselly track side reporter, that was obviously trying to provoke him into saying something stupid, like he did, they didn't have to even run that clip, it was a non-story in my mind... The Media & Nascar want everyone to be freaken robots, if Dale Sr. did that it would be just fine, Kurt is the latest whipping post for Nascar, it's turning into politically correct B.S., it's nolonger even Nascar... Again I'm not the biggest Kurt fan but Nascar is way over the top on this stuff...
i dont think nascar is taking it away from him. fact is he's been fired from two major race teams so far and about to be fired from another because he is an A$$ to his team and everybody around him.
Quote from: Chargen69 on June 05, 2012, 01:17:20 PM
i dont think nascar is taking it away from him. fact is he's been fired from two major race teams so far and about to be fired from another because he is an A$$ to his team and everybody around him.
Opinions will vary... I agree he's an idiot, but he's not the only A$$ out there, it's being blown way out of proportion by Nascar, ultimately costing him a ride {his own doing}, it's why I think he is lashing out, I'm not defending the guy at all {well kind of}, but is that really a good reason to ban the guy or sit him down, because he said some thing stupid to a media reporter, not an Nascar official or
Fox or Speed annalist or something, just a no-name media guy, how is that detrimental to Nascar...
It should have been a non-story, way too much politically correct BS in racing now...
Hey you know it must be genetic, Kyle is well, you know... but he has controlled himself pretty well after that suspension last year.
Quote from: Chargen69 on June 05, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
Hey you know it must be genetic, Kyle is well, you know... but he has controlled himself pretty well after that suspension last year.
Yep I'm amazed he's {Kyle} been as good as he has been, It's hard to be a competitive person & hold your tounge, I am a perfect example of that.... Maybe becoming a team owner made him see the light or bigger pitcher...LOL...
your right in 1 spot, if it would have been one of the favorites, this never would have made it anywhere. or if it got out, the reporter would have been scolded. i believe they protect their prime drivers. kurts problem goes farther. i dont care if a driver gets mad and screams. but when you actually get so mad you kinda lose control of your factors and drive through a manned pit box doing a burn out because of anger i have to draw the line. i think there should be a cooling off period before a reporter can grab a guy who came off the track due to a mishap.
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 05, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
your right in 1 spot, if it would have been one of the favorites, this never would have made it anywhere. or if it got out, the reporter would have been scolded. i believe they protect their prime drivers. kurts problem goes farther. i dont care if a driver gets mad and screams. but when you actually get so mad you kinda lose control of your factors and drive through a manned pit box doing a burn out because of anger i have to draw the line. i think there should be a cooling off period before a reporter can grab a guy who came off the track due to a mishap.
That last sentence should be common sense to Nascar, you would think :brickwall: , they want the drama, but only "
just on their terms",
HAVE AT IT BOYS, remember that phrase... But all means, don't speak you mind or do something stupid, because of the anger caused out on the racing surface, go ahead & wreck all the cars, jeopardize all the lives at 200mph out on the track, but don't say something stupid or do something stupid in the pits or after the race....
Quote from: Chargen69 on June 05, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
Hey you know it must be genetic, Kyle is well, you know... but he has controlled himself pretty well after that suspension last year.
of course kyle's racing has sucked since then too
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 05, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
your right in 1 spot, if it would have been one of the favorites, this never would have made it anywhere.
Thats right.
After the last race Jeff Gordon made the comment about one of NASCARS infamous debris cautions. Nothing said about that from NASCAR.
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 05, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
your right in 1 spot, if it would have been one of the favorites, this never would have made it anywhere. or if it got out, the reporter would have been scolded. i believe they protect their prime drivers. kurts problem goes farther. i dont care if a driver gets mad and screams. but when you actually get so mad you kinda lose control of your factors and drive through a manned pit box doing a burn out because of anger i have to draw the line. i think there should be a cooling off period before a reporter can grab a guy who came off the track due to a mishap.
I agree, A cool off period might help a lot.
I'm not bashing on Kurt, He use to be My favorite driver but after last Year I kinda lost respect for Him.
I'm afraid that if He can't get it to gather soon He will be out.
He is a top driver and I hope things work out for Him. Having said that, Hi's little pit stunt was uncalled for and He should be punished for that.
Junior badmouths plate racing on TV all the time...nothing comes of that either....
Bryan
Just some more organized chaos. NASCAR's just too damn political for me to follow anymore. I keep track of my fantasy team & that's about it. Years ago I dreamed of going to the Daytona 500 but now it's meh, down @ the bottom of the bucket list.
Are you gonna let them race & show their personalities or was that just lip service? What's it gonna be? If you poke a bear with a stick enough times, sooner or later he's gonna get pissed. WTH do you expect when reporters' confront drivers' right after they've piled up a high dollar piece of equipment?!! I didn't see the incident but the reporter got what he deserved. :Twocents:
Imo, it's pure stupidity on the networks part. :eyes: :Twocents:
Rowdy's gonna have to start a Cup team for his brother. ;)
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on June 06, 2012, 05:07:50 PM
Just some more organized chaos. NASCAR's just too damn political for me to follow anymore. I keep track of my fantasy team & that's about it. Years ago I dreamed of going to the Daytona 500 but now it's meh, down @ the bottom of the bucket list.
Are you gonna let them race & show their personalities or was that just lip service? What's it gonna be? If you poke a bear with a stick enough times, sooner or later he's gonna get pissed. WTH do you expect when reporters' confront drivers' right after they've piled up a high dollar piece of equipment?!! I didn't see the incident but the reporter got what he deserved. :Twocents:
Imo, it's pure stupidity on the networks part. :eyes: :Twocents:
Rowdy's gonna have to start a Cup team for his brother. ;)
Well said :2thumbs:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 04, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 04, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Yep, went ballistic on a Speed reporter after the Nationwide race. Thats a no, no when on probation.
Obviously the guy has not learned anything yet and his team can not find a company to sponsor him. I am guessing it will not be long before he loses his ride.
maybe they should get prozac to sponcer him and give him some freebees too :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: moparstuart on June 07, 2012, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 04, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 04, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
first time I heard this, lol. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Yep, went ballistic on a Speed reporter after the Nationwide race. Thats a no, no when on probation.
Obviously the guy has not learned anything yet and his team can not find a company to sponsor him. I am guessing it will not be long before he loses his ride.
maybe they should get prozac to sponcer him and give him some freebees too :icon_smile_big:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that aint actually a bad idea for for the sport, new line of sponsors in NASCAR :icon_smile_big:
After having listened to the Kurt story for a while I have come to the following concision....and of course it's just my opinion for what's its worth:
First off Kurt is a very good driver or he wouldn't be competing in the top tier of NASCAR, and he wouldn't have been (key word being been, not presently) employed by two of the biggest teams in the past. He is a Championship driver, which means he should know by now how the "game" is played. It also means he should know how to be both a professional driver and representative of the sport. He knows what NASCAR will and will not tolerate in the way of behavior from its driver.
It's hard to believe that someone would risk throwing away a job that other's would kill for, but that's just what he's doing when he opens his mouth. And, I don't buy the excise that he's just competitive and passionate about racing as it goes way beyond that or all the drivers would act as he does. He has a problem showing others the respect they deserve...it goes both ways. Sure a driver may be upset with something that happens on the track, but knowing what to say and how to say it....and perhaps even more important what not to say is all part of being a "professional" driver. Everyone has emotions, it's a fact of life, but if Kurt has such a problem with controlling his, he needs to go to the trailer and cool off for a few minutes before opening his mouth. (I know NASCAR wants drivers to be available to reporters after something happens on the track....but in Kurt's case it would be a lot better to face NASCAR for something he didn't do, rather for what he has done.)
I will not judge Kurt and I do wish him well, hoping that he can get past his demons. But he's got to know that he is running out of options if he truly wants to stay in NASCAR (and auto racing for that matter). The fact that he got a third opportunity is purely because he's a past champion. If he blows this chance there may not be a fourth out there for him. He needs to look no farther than his own brother to see what he needs to do.
Kurt needs to be more than just an "Good" driver.....he needs to be a "Professional" driver.
true, true, true. you know, i dont like jeff gordon. i think hes a baby. just my opinion folks (or gordon fans). but when you see what has happened to him this year. he has had every bad luck thing happen to his team. he blew 3 tires in a race. he has been taken out in a wreck that had nothing to do with him. blown motors. (the jeff haters like me cheer when the tire blows so he loses points) but this guy has kept his cool this year and bit the bullet and was careful about what he said of others. that is the difference between him and kurt.
Like I've said before: one of the biggest complaints from NASCAR haters is that the drivers are too bland and lack personalities. Then when they do show personality, we chastise them.
IMHO, if anything Kurt should have been punished for the pit row deal a few weeks back - that was on track and put people in danger. But punishing him for being a dick off the track is ridiculous. And while his attitude towards the reporters is not exactly acceptable, they should that going up to him after something happened and asking him stupid questions is like asking a recovering alcoholic, after a particularly trying day, if he wants to grab a drink.
Quote from: Ponch ® on June 08, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
Like I've said before: one of the biggest complaints from NASCAR haters is that the drivers are too bland and lack personalities. Then when they do show personality, we chastise them.
IMHO, if anything Kurt should have been punished for the pit row deal a few weeks back - that was on track and put people in danger. But punishing him for being a dick off the track is ridiculous. And while his attitude towards the reporters is not exactly acceptable, they should that going up to him after something happened and asking him stupid questions is like asking a recovering alcoholic, after a particularly trying day, if he wants to grab a drink.
I agree, blowing though the pits is something he should have been thrown on probation for, and he was. I think sitting him for this was a bit much. He would not have been parked if he was not already on probation. The guy knows he is on this ice and probably should have just walked away.
Kurt is a great driver with a bad attitude. And with sponsors hard to come by this year, if the sponsor wants you to dance, you better dance or someone else will be there to take your place.
priceless :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I1Jycaw_lyI
WOW!!! :o :lol: :rotz:
Sorry, but I don't find the interview to be even the least bit funny. Kurt knows better than to say off colored comments during an interview, even if it is "pay for view" as there are still young ones watching. I guess Kurt finds Kurt funny....But for many it's goes to the core of Kurt's problem...he opens his big mouth before engaging his (small) brain. He forgets that once something is said, it will be out there forever, and do you really think a sponsor wants to be associated with that kind of talk/person? Has he learned nothing from his past experiences? With all the issues he has had you would think he would hold his tongue. Perhaps the only thing that will get Kurt's attention is when he can't get even a second tier ride and has to watch the races on the TV.
And, those that keep saying that NASCAR has watered down it's drivers and they no longer show any personally, I disagree. If a driver is a true "professional" he can still show his emotions without the use of four letter words. Jeff Gordon is a perfect example of someone that should be perhaps the most frustrated driver out there....and he still comes across as very professional...even after a very bad day on the track. Same with Smoke, as just a few years back he was NASCAR's bad boy, but he has learned that there are two ways to make your point...and yes he still shows his emotions....just not in an "out- of -control" style like Kurt. And, even NASCAR's all time bad boy, Dale Sr. if he were alive today wouldn't act the way Kurt does because he was a professional driver.
The way Kurt is going, he will become just an unfortunate feet note in NASCAR if he doesn't start learning, and learning quickly how to act like a professional. :rotz:
ok, watched the race today, feel like i got to for some stupid reason... anyway, GOOD GRIEF, i hate TNT's coverage of the race, I cant stand listening to Wally rant and rave about every little thing, like when the 88 and 24 came in to pit, HELLO, they were points racing, JR basically said that in the interview, good ole wally was blasting them for pitting over and over, to short sighted to understand, none of the guys that pitted wanted to risk running out of gas, which was a risk had it gone green to the end. did they need to in the end, no, too many yellows after all.
rant over
:brickwall:
time to mute the tv and run the radio for audio
Quote from: Chargen69 on June 10, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
ok, watched the race today, ... anyway, GOOD GRIEF, i hate TNT's coverage of the race,
Yep, TNT sure does stink.
Of course I rather hear them than the two dipsh!t Waltrip brothers on FOX.
Anyone notice the crowd today, or the lack of a crowd. The main grandstand was half full at best.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 10, 2012, 07:21:14 PM
Of course I rather hear them than the two dipsh!t Waltrip brothers on FOX.
Agreed....
Bryan
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 10, 2012, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on June 10, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
ok, watched the race today, ... anyway, GOOD GRIEF, i hate TNT's coverage of the race,
Yep, TNT sure does stink.
Of course I rather hear them than the two dipsh!t Waltrip brothers on FOX.
Anyone notice the crowd today, or the lack of a crowd. The main grandstand was half full at best.
I don't know, I like TNT's coverage better then Fox's. And Dover was only about half full too.
TNT coverage sucked! I don't think they had one good replay of anything that happened on the track. Idiots!! :brickwall:
Quote from: General_01 on June 11, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
TNT coverage sucked! I don't think they had one good replay of anything that happened on the track. Idiots!! :brickwall:
:iagree:
Well Kurt had his meeting with team owner (6-12)......and he still has a job....for now. Lets see if Kurt has learned anything; although his track record for learning to keep his mouth shut isn't that good. ::)
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on him blowing up and loosing it again :lol:
Not that I would listen to it but is there still a nationally broadcast radio version of NASCAR races?
yes there is. once in a while on the way home from camping i will flip it on to see whos doing well. its a bit harder to follow :smilielol: but it is on radio. :2thumbs:
Quote from: wingcar on June 13, 2012, 09:18:45 AM
Well Kurt had his meeting with team owner (6-12)......and he still has a job....for now. Lets see if Kurt has learned anything; although his track record for learning to keep his mouth shut isn't that good. ::)
I don't see him keeping his job with the car owner past this season
Bryan
Quote from: Ghoste on June 13, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
Not that I would listen to it but is there still a nationally broadcast radio version of NASCAR races?
MRN? Yep.
Our local station dropped them a few years ago... :rotz:
http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/?homepage=true
BBD
Quote from: Ghoste on June 13, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
Not that I would listen to it but is there still a nationally broadcast radio version of NASCAR races?
MRN
http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/?homepage=true (http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/?homepage=true)
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 13, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on him blowing up and loosing it again :lol:
It's his home town track isn't it ?? or was that Phoenix ??, I say 3 to 5 on saying something stupid to someone, at least about his meeting or suspension, if pressed by an obnoxious media person, trying to bait him into saying something stupid... There will be a line on it in the Las Vegas sports betting, for sure... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Vegas is the Busch's home track.
Kurt Busch has yet another altercation with a member of the media
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar--kurt-busch-has-yet-another-altercation-with-a-member-of-the-media.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar--kurt-busch-has-yet-another-altercation-with-a-member-of-the-media.html)
In his first interaction with the media following his one-race suspension for a verbal altercation with a member of the media, Kurt Busch had ... another brief altercation.
This time it came with ESPN's Marty Smith following Busch's third-place run in Saturday's Nationwide race. Per NASCAR rules, any driver who finishes in the top three is mandated to first talk with MRN Radio on pit road, then visit the infield media center. Busch skipped his pit-road obligation. When told in the media center that MRN had reported he'd left without fulfilling his obligations, Busch reportedly replied, "That's what everybody says, don't they?"
He then left the media center followed by a trail of reporters, including Smith, according to reports. Busch then told Smith to come over with a camera. When Smith did, Busch refused an interview, saying, "You ever hear of sarcasm?"
Busch later returned to the media center to say, "It was great to drive the car."
Nice win for Jr. It had been a long time, and I really enjoyed seeing the guy get this win.
I thought you guys might like a few pictures I took when I was there.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/miller33333/IMG_8101.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/miller33333/IMG_8131.jpg)
And Denny Hamlin, LIGHTING IT UP!!!!
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s225/miller33333/IMG_8013.jpg)
fantastic job on the firey hamlin car. :2thumbs:
Quote from: miller on June 18, 2012, 06:07:03 PM
I thought you guys might like a few pictures I took when I was there.
And Denny Hamlin, LIGHTING IT UP!!!!
Love that picture.. Looks like the safety crew member with the fire extinguisher is taking note and/or oblivious of the fire right before him... :lol:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 18, 2012, 08:04:56 AM
Nice win for Jr. It had been a long time, and I really enjoyed seeing the guy get this win.
Same here, i am glad to see him win so the media will get off his back.
Well Dale Jr. FINALLY won and ended his winless streak. While I am happy for Dale Jr. and his team....I am also happy for the rest of us...because now we will stop hearing all the reporters talk about WHEN he will win again.
Ok, people he won, now let's move on to other news........................
:iagree: yes.
:iagree: :iagree: :icon_smile_big:
Matt Kenseth confirmed leaving Roush at the end of year. Not saying where to, but most likely to the #20 or a fourth Joe Gibbs team. Ricky Stenhouse to take over the #17 for Roush.
Wow!!! I didn't see that coming :o
Quote from: Aero426 on June 26, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
Matt Kenseth confirmed leaving Roush at the end of year. Not saying where to, but most likely to the #20 or a fourth Joe Gibbs team. Ricky Stenhouse to take over the #17 for Roush.
Silly Season is here!
So, Kenseth to JGR -> Logano out? -> Newman stays at SHR?
It has been rumored he was leaving for months. But the excuse was sponsorship issues. Jack has been paying for most of the expenses for the team out of his own pocket.
"But his #17 Ford has limited sponsorship, and team owner Jack Roush has been paying out of his own pocket to ensure Kenseth runs a full season."
Maybe the 17 will just be a part time ride next year.
Just another example of why not to get your drivers number tattooed ever.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 26, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Just another example of why not to get your drivers number tattooed ever.
:smilielol: :hah: :rofl: You got that right... :brickwall:
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 26, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Wow!!! I didn't see that coming :o
Roush has Stenhouse and Bayne under long term contract at a lower price. So with not enough sponsorship money to go around, Matt will leave. It sounds like Matt knows exactly where he is going but will not talk about it.
Quote from: Budnicks on June 26, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 26, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Just another example of why not to get your drivers number tattooed ever.
:smilielol: :hah: :rofl: You got that right... :brickwall:
Unless you're a Dale Jr fan...all you had to do was add another 8.
Quote from: Ponch ® on June 26, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on June 26, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on June 26, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Just another example of why not to get your drivers number tattooed ever.
:smilielol: :hah: :rofl: You got that right... :brickwall:
Unless you're a Dale Jr fan...all you had to do was add another 8.
:hah: yep :2thumbs:
my 43 tattoo is safe :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
my 43 tattoo is safe :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
I didn't know Jeff Green ever had such a rabid following.
Quote from: Ponch ® on June 26, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
my 43 tattoo is safe :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
I didn't know Jeff Green ever had such a rabid following.
well I think your # 3 is safe too but I would never put that one on ME oh and mine is for john andretti not green
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on June 26, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
my 43 tattoo is safe :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
I didn't know Jeff Green ever had such a rabid following.
well I think your # 3 is safe too but I would never put that one on ME oh and mine is for john andretti not green
IF I had a 43 tattoo....it would be for the King. (He will always be my driver.......) :2thumbs:
Quote from: wingcar on June 26, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on June 26, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 26, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
my 43 tattoo is safe :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
I didn't know Jeff Green ever had such a rabid following.
well I think your # 3 is safe too but I would never put that one on ME oh and mine is for john andretti not green
IF I had a 43 tattoo....it would be for the King. (He will always be my driver.......) :2thumbs:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
From NASCAR.com:
Kenseth out, Stenhouse in for RFR in 2013
The '03 Cup champ will leave team he's been with since '98 at end of season
By David Caraviello, NASCAR.COM
June 26, 2012 5:39 PM, EDT
CONCORD, N.C. -- Matt Kenseth brought Jack Roush his first championship at NASCAR's highest level, and his first victory in the sport's biggest race. Now a driver and a car owner who have been synonymous with one another for more than a decade are splitting up at season's end.
Roush Fenway Racing announced Tuesday that Kenseth would leave the organization at the end of this year and be replaced in the No. 17 car by current Nationwide Series champion Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Kenseth -- who is in the final year of his contract -- has made all but six of his 452 career Sprint Cup starts with Roush, winning a long-awaited championship for the organization in 2003, and claiming Daytona 500 titles in 2009 and this season. He also currently leads the points standings.
"I'd like to thank Matt Kenseth for his many years of loyal service," Roush said in a statement. "Matt has been an integral part of this organization for well over a decade, and we are extremely appreciative of his accomplishments and contributions to the team, and will always consider him a part of the Roush Fenway family."
"I'm very thankful to Jack Roush for the opportunities he's given me over the past 14 years," Kenseth said in a statement released in a series of posts on Twitter. "Together we have enjoyed a lot of success ... [and] as a team we are committed as ever to the remainder of the 2012 season and chasing a [third] Sprint Cup title for Jack and RFR. Although I have nothing to announce regarding 2013, I feel the timing of the announcement gives RFR ample time to get things lined up. ... [Darian] and Tony proved to us last year there is no such thing as a 'lame duck' season. We will continue to go to work and race hard."
The reference there is to Darian Grubb and Tony Stewart, who won a championship together last year despite the fact the crew chief had been fired effective the end of the season. The Roush organization would disclose no details behind the impending split, but team president Steve Newmark did say the agreement was an amicable one.
"This is going to be one situation that, with respect to what went on behind the scenes, it's going to remain a private matter," Newmark said. "Matt and Jack have an unbelievable relationship, and this has been a private matter between them. Matt has eloquently put before that he's not really going to talk about his contract issues in public. And so, we recognize there will be lot of speculation, and rightly so, about all the theories people can come up with ... but it's a very amicable parting of the ways. That said, it's a bittersweet moment for our organization."
Kenseth and Roush first paired up for the 1998 campaign in what is now the Nationwide Series. He joined the organization's Cup stable in 2000, and has been a contender for race victories almost ever since. His former crew chief Robbie Reiser, an old friend and rival from their days together on Wisconsin short tracks, is now Roush's general manager.
"Matt and I broke into this sport together, learned the ropes and were able to bring home a championship," Reiser said in a statement. "Over the 20 years we have worked with each other, Matt has been a fierce competitor and become a close friend, not only for me, but as a mentor to young drivers like Ricky. I wish Matt nothing but the best for the next phase of his career, and know that we'll remain close."
Although Kenseth has maintained consistency during much of his career and leads the Sprint Cup standings, this year his No. 17 car has been dogged by sponsorship issues, leaving the Roush team to fund the vehicle through limited deals -- or in some cases, out of its own pocket. But the performance never seemed to suffer, and at a sponsorship announcement earlier this season Kenseth said it would be tough to imagine driving for any other organization.
Next season, though, that will be the case. Kenseth should have no shortage of opportunities, given that Joe Gibbs Racing and Penske Racing are among the elite teams that have drivers in the final years of their respective contracts. Penske is changing manufacturers next season to Ford, the same car used at Roush, but a statement released by Ford Racing boss Jamie Allison made it sound unlikely that Kenseth would be piloting a vehicle with a blue oval on the front in 2013.
"All of us at Ford are certainly disappointed to hear that Matt will be leaving, and he will be certainly missed by us and the Ford Racing fans," Allison said. "We are thankful for Matt's winning efforts and championship-caliber success with the Roush and Ford racing programs these past 16 years, both on and off the track. We will focus on this year and look forward to more success on the track in his No. 17 Ford Fusion this season."
Next season that car will belong to Stenhouse, who has won five times on the Nationwide tour and is in pursuit of his second consecutive championship on that series. He is currently third in the standings, 23 points behind leader Elliott Sadler.
"There's no question that Ricky is ready to take the next step," Newmark said. "In all honesty, he probably was ready to take the next step at the end of last year, but we talked about it, and Ricky's goal is to be a mainstay in Cup and win multiple championships. Internally -- and this is Jack and Robbie and Ricky -- we thought he might benefit from one more year in the Nationwide [Series]. But I think we all recognize he has the talent, the drive, the dedication and just the makeup of one of the best drivers in the world, and he deserves to showcase his skills at the Cup level."
Stenhouse said he's excited for the opportunity to help Roush Fenway continue to succeed, but he's under no illusions that he can replace Kenseth in all ways.
"It's a huge opportunity but a tough one as well, just carrying on the winning ways," Stenhouse said. "I don't know if you're going to replace Matt. I just look to add to Roush Fenway and hopefully be there as long as Matt did. He helped me out so much, so it would be an honor to be able to step in and take the same role on with someone else coming up in Roush Fenway later on down the road."
Newmark added that promoting from within "is really in the DNA of Roush Fenway," which historically hasn't been a major player in the free-agent market. Kenseth's departure and Stenhouse's step up could also have a trickle-down effect for 2011 Daytona 500 champion Trevor Bayne, whom Newmark hopes will run a full-time Nationwide Series schedule for Roush next season. Sponsor shortages forced Roush to cut back to one full-time Nationwide program this year, leaving Bayne to drive a part-time car in addition to his partial Cup slate with the Wood Brothers.
But that all comes next season, after Kenseth moves on to another organization. Meanwhile, there's one bit of business left at Roush for the points leader, who is chasing a second title to go along with the crown he claimed in 2003.
"Matt clearly has been an integral part of getting this organization to where it is, and I think that's why you see an amicable parting," Newmark said. "I also think that's why this won't have any impact on Matt and the No. 17 team's run for the championship."
I think the deal at Roush is Edwards took all the money :RantExplode: in hind sight I bet jack wishes he would have let him go. Now he can't afford to keep Matt or run 4 cars.
Matt heard what Edwards was offered for the 20 car and I want for it. :Twocents:
Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you don't get what you pay for..
Quote from: thedodgeboys on June 29, 2012, 05:39:39 AM
I think the deal at Roush is Edwards took all the money :RantExplode: in hind sight I bet jack wishes he would have let him go. Now he can't afford to keep Matt or run 4 cars.
Matt heard what Edwards was offered for the 20 car and I want for it. :Twocents:
Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you don't get what you pay for..
edwards is a premadonna , not a nice guy in person either , i wanted to like her being a local guy and all but he's an ass
A.J Almendinger Suspended before the race tonight by Nascar for failing a drug test :o :o :o
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 07, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
A.J Almendinger Suspended before the race tonight by Nascar for failing a drug test :o :o :o
Must have been those brownies Tony Stewart sent him the other day. :rotz:
BBD
who knows. Maybe he ate something with poppy seads on it. That will make you fail a drug test too.
Quote from: BigBlackDodge on July 07, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 07, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
A.J Almendinger Suspended before the race tonight by Nascar for failing a drug test :o :o :o
Must have been those brownies Tony Stewart sent him the other day. :rotz:
BBD
I was thinking Kurt Busch. ;)
Dumb question maybe, but what drugs are they testing for in NASCAR? Is it just narcotic/ mood altering kinds of things or is it performance enhancing or across the board?
Quote from: Ghoste on July 08, 2012, 12:09:22 PM
Dumb question maybe, but what drugs are they testing for in NASCAR? Is it just narcotic/ mood altering kinds of things or is it performance enhancing or across the board?
Lots of things it looks like....
http://www.jayski.com/teams/drug-policy.htm
BBD
Moon Shine.....the officials just can't get over their past history and still hold it over the drivers heads.......
Darn Revenuers.......
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 07, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
who knows. Maybe he ate something with poppy seads on it. That will make you fail a drug test too.
:2thumbs: Been there done that, :brickwall: It happens allot more than people think, it comes out just like any other "opiate" in drug testing... I use to eat lemon cake poppy seed muffins allot, I had to take a random drug test, it came out positive, told the testers, I don't do any drugs of any kind, rarely even take any PX meds or even aspirin, they asked what my recent meals were, they told me to not eat the muffins, laced with poppy seeds, I tested 2 weeks latter, clean as a whistle, as I knew it would be all along...
Allmendinger suspended indefinitely by NASCAR
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- AJ Allmendinger, driver of the No. 22 car in the Sprint Cup Series, has been suspended indefinitely from NASCAR for violating the sanctioning body's substance abuse policy.
On July 24, Allmendinger was found to have violated Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 19 (NASCAR's substance abuse policy) of the 2012 NASCAR rule book.
As outlined in the rule book, NASCAR next will provide Allmendinger a letter outlining a process for reinstatement. By agreeing to the letter, he will be allowed to participate in the Road to Recovery Program.
*You would think that he would have learned from Mayfield's example........SAD
I was just getting ready to post this too.
I don't understand what this kid was thinking. PRS is a great organization and he blew it.
On the bright side, it will be nice to see Sam back in the car.
I was just going to post this.... It is sad :rotz:
IF I were to believe in "Black" Helicopters and such...I would believe that the die-cast Challenger Nationwide car I just found was an indication that Petty was indeed going back to Chrysler. I found this 1:24 scale die-cast on the NASCAR.com Superstore site. The description said it was released in connection with the Petty Documentary...."Petty Blue". But why use a new Challenger when he is most associated with the Superbird or 3rd Generation Charger? And, for that matter he drove a Pontiac for his last years in NASCAR which would be the car most fans would remember.
Just saying, it looks interesting....or maybe I have been watching too much NCIS on TV.......
what was the banned substance that A.J. was supposed to have taken ??... I still haven't heard what drug it was...
Quote from: Budnicks on July 26, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
what was the banned substance that A.J. was supposed to have taken ??... I still haven't heard what drug it was...
NASCAR / the sanctioning body won't disclose it. Probably for a good reason (medical confidentiality - back in the 80s when Tim Richmond got suspended for drug use, NASCAR couldnt say that it was AZT, because they might as well be saying that he had AIDS). Even if it was something relatively tame (weed?), they can't come out and say it, because if the next guy gets caught and don't they reveal it, everyone will just assume that it's meth/coke/heroin, etc.
Quote from: Ponch ® on July 26, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on July 26, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
what was the banned substance that A.J. was supposed to have taken ??... I still haven't heard what drug it was...
NASCAR / the sanctioning body won't disclose it. Probably for a good reason (medical confidentiality - back in the 80s when Tim Richmond got suspended for drug use, NASCAR couldnt say that it was AZT, because they might as well be saying that he had AIDS). Even if it was something relatively tame (weed?), they can't come out and say it, because if the next guy gets caught and don't they reveal it, everyone will just assume that it's meth/coke/heroin, etc.
Actually, they did......
Amphetamines caused Allmendinger's positive test: Suspended Sprint Cup driver AJ Allmendinger tested positive for amphetamines, his business manager confirmed Wednesday. Tara Ragan, the vice president of Walldinger Racing Inc., said Allmendinger was told when initially suspended by NASCAR on July 7 that amphetamines were found in his drug testing sample taken a week earlier. She said the term was so broad that she opted to refer to it as a stimulant. Brand names of medications that contain or metabolize into amphetamines include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, Didrex, ProCentra and Vyvanse. Amphetamines also are used recreationally as a performance enhancer, often referred to on the street as "speed." When overused, they can be psychologically and physically addictive. "With amphetamines, there are a whole slew of things it can be," Ragan told ESPN.com. "When we say we don't know what it is, what we were trying to ascertain is what is it in that grouping? In our head, we don't know. In fact, when the (medical review officer) first called and said he tested positive for amphetamines, the first thing we said was, 'What does that mean?'" Ragan said the hope is Dr. David Black, who runs Aegis Sciences Corporation in Nashville, Tenn., which tested Allmendinger's "A" and "B" urine samples, will help clarify that Thursday when Allmendinger talks to him to be assigned a health care facility for assessment. Meanwhile, Ragan said there are plans to have Allmendinger tested again by an independent laboratory to see whether amphetamines still show up in his system. "We weren't being evasive," Ragan said. "In my head, no, we didn't know what the drug was. Amphetamines was too general for us when trying to figure out what it is."
Chevrolet Camaro Will Debut in 2013 NASCAR Nationwide Series: Chevrolet will have a new entry in the NASCAR Nationwide Series in 2013: Camaro, the top- selling sports car in America, will make its series debut next February at Daytona International Speedway
Quote from: wingcar on July 25, 2012, 03:24:30 PM
IF I were to believe in "Black" Helicopters and such...I would believe that the die-cast Challenger Nationwide car I just found was an indication that Petty was indeed going back to Chrysler. I found this 1:24 scale die-cast on the NASCAR.com Superstore site. The description said it was released in connection with the Petty Documentary...."Petty Blue". But why use a new Challenger when he is most associated with the Superbird or 3rd Generation Charger? And, for that matter he drove a Pontiac for his last years in NASCAR which would be the car most fans would remember.
Just saying, it looks interesting....or maybe I have been watching too much NCIS on TV.......
Oh great :down:
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 26, 2012, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on July 26, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on July 26, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
what was the banned substance that A.J. was supposed to have taken ??... I still haven't heard what drug it was...
NASCAR / the sanctioning body won't disclose it. Probably for a good reason (medical confidentiality - back in the 80s when Tim Richmond got suspended for drug use, NASCAR couldnt say that it was AZT, because they might as well be saying that he had AIDS). Even if it was something relatively tame (weed?), they can't come out and say it, because if the next guy gets caught and don't they reveal it, everyone will just assume that it's meth/coke/heroin, etc.
Actually, they did......
Amphetamines caused Allmendinger's positive test: Suspended Sprint Cup driver AJ Allmendinger tested positive for amphetamines, his business manager confirmed Wednesday. Tara Ragan, the vice president of Walldinger Racing Inc., said Allmendinger was told when initially suspended by NASCAR on July 7 that amphetamines were found in his drug testing sample taken a week earlier. She said the term was so broad that she opted to refer to it as a stimulant. Brand names of medications that contain or metabolize into amphetamines include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, Didrex, ProCentra and Vyvanse. Amphetamines also are used recreationally as a performance enhancer, often referred to on the street as "speed." When overused, they can be psychologically and physically addictive. "With amphetamines, there are a whole slew of things it can be," Ragan told ESPN.com. "When we say we don't know what it is, what we were trying to ascertain is what is it in that grouping? In our head, we don't know. In fact, when the (medical review officer) first called and said he tested positive for amphetamines, the first thing we said was, 'What does that mean?'" Ragan said the hope is Dr. David Black, who runs Aegis Sciences Corporation in Nashville, Tenn., which tested Allmendinger's "A" and "B" urine samples, will help clarify that Thursday when Allmendinger talks to him to be assigned a health care facility for assessment. Meanwhile, Ragan said there are plans to have Allmendinger tested again by an independent laboratory to see whether amphetamines still show up in his system. "We weren't being evasive," Ragan said. "In my head, no, we didn't know what the drug was. Amphetamines was too general for us when trying to figure out what it is."
Chevrolet Camaro Will Debut in 2013 NASCAR Nationwide Series: Chevrolet will have a new entry in the NASCAR Nationwide Series in 2013: Camaro, the top- selling sports car in America, will make its series debut next February at Daytona International Speedway
Thanks for the clarification on the drug he was suspended for...
Watching the Brickyard and noticed stands look 30 to 40 percent full. :rotz:
I happened to be in Indy this morning and could not help but notice the lack of traffic on 465. Roughly 5 years ago it would have been stop and go for miles. Today, almost seemed lighter than normal traffic. It is a cool track, but you are very limited in what you watch because the track is so large.
the stands yesterday for the Busch race was maybe 20% full.....and that was only on the front stretch...all other seats were empty
Bryan
I know, no one that owns a car in racing, or that drives the cars, likes accidents. But simply put, the lack of them is why NASCAR is so boring now. Crashes are excitement no matter how you look at it. That and there are like 8 guys that win all the races (like Johnson). I have seen drivers die in races locally, its not fun or entertaining. But like football, the game would not be enjoyed as much it they turned it into flag football, because we all wanna see the hard hits. Crashes add excitement. I like to see them as well as good ol' door to door racing. But like so many other people, it's boring watching cars just go in circles, and watching the same 8 cars win all year long. That's why short track racing is more fun, cause there is more beating and banging. Rubbing IS racing! I'm sure cost is a good part of it too though. No one can afford to go anymore. Just my :Twocents:
By the way, I found out from a insider I know personally (his daughter works for one of the more famous drivers), that the cup cars got a new date coming in August Wisconsin at Road America starting either in 2013 or 2014. Most likely the Nationwide cars will be there too.
I will agree for the most part, Rubben is Racen, Nascar racing anyway, but just a bunch of guys, going in circles & wrecking every other lap & the constant restarts & 50-70+ yellow flag caution laps, on a 200-300 lap race, gets really old, really fast too, even at a short track race... Race fans that want to see nothing but a bunch of wrecks, aren't real race fans IMHO, just thrill/gore seekers, casual type fan, there's nothing wrong with great side by side racing, with-out any cautions, as long as it isn't, a boring ass train of cars or 2 car pairs, in the draft the whole damn 500 mile race, that gets really old, really fast too.... Like you said only really maybe 8 drivers/cars/super teams, will ever win, on any given race weekend, in all three races Trucks Nationwide & Cup, that gets old really fast too, I would like to see a different winner almost every week, I know that won't ever happen, but it would show, they actually have a competitive field, of all 43 cars... With only 20%-50% attendance at some races... People are hurting, the economy is in pretty bad shape & the core fan of Nascar is the regular blue collar working stiffs, that can't hardly afford to spend $50+ per/ticket/per/persons/per/day, with so many people out of work & struggling... Construction jobs are down like 70%, I read somewhere, there are a ton of Nascar fan in that group/segment of under/unemployed.... All just my opinions , I'm not trying to force my views on others...
I used to really like watching it. Hoped to someday go to Daytona or Talladega.
But I give up after Jimmy Johnson started winning all those championships. Sure, him & Kmouse are a great team but good gravy it sure gets old.
yup....I'm getting real tired of Hendricks teams as well
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on July 30, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
yup....I'm getting real tired of Hendricks teams as well
Bryan
You supose that's how everybody felt about Petty back in his day?
I do agree it needs more action not compleet wreckage to bring out the yellow just close hard racing.
If I had the solution I would sale it to na$car :coolgleamA:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 31, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 30, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
yup....I'm getting real tired of Hendricks teams as well
Bryan
You supose that's how everybody felt about Petty back in his day?
I do agree it needs more action not compleet wreckage to bring out the yellow just close hard racing.
If I had the solution I would sale it to na$car :coolgleamA:
Petty was a GOD, I'm sure some people thought that way, that he wins too much :brickwall: with his 200 wins & 7 championships total as a driver, I wonder how everyone was thinking about all the wins Dale Sr. had & his 7 championships too, never 5 in a row though...
jr. says it will be nice for a 2 car race between him and jimmy for the championship. and it wont matter who wins as long as they win for their team. :eek2:
Quote from: Budnicks on July 31, 2012, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 31, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 30, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
yup....I'm getting real tired of Hendricks teams as well
Bryan
You supose that's how everybody felt about Petty back in his day?
I do agree it needs more action not compleet wreckage to bring out the yellow just close hard racing.
If I had the solution I would sale it to na$car :coolgleamA:
Petty was a GOD, I'm sure some people thought that way, that he wins too much :brickwall: with his 200 wins & 7 championships total as a driver, I wonder how everyone was thinking about all the wins Dale Sr. had & his 7 championships too, never 5 in a row though...
No Petty is a KING :nana: :nana: :nana: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Sr... who cares :shruggy: :flame:
yah 5 in a row is hard to swallow from a chevy driver wish it were a Dodge :coolgleamA:
too much of a good thing just gets boring sometimes like em or not I believe the cars are just to arrow dependent at the speeds they run and the cars so evenly matched to make for good racing. Without any comers and goers you just have follow the leader type racing except for the restarts. :Twocents:
Allmendinger released by Penske; statement by Allmendinger: Penske Racing announced today that AJ Allmendinger has been released as driver of the #22 Dodge Charger in the NASCAR Cup Series. Allmendinger was suspended indefinitely by NASCAR last week for a positive drug test. "Penske Racing fully supports NASCAR's substance abuse policy and we are disappointed with AJ's positive drug test results," said Roger Penske. "AJ is a terrific driver, a good person and it is very unfortunate that we have to separate at this time. We have invested greatly in AJ and we were confident in his success with our team. The decision to dismiss him is consistent with how we would treat any other Penske Racing team member under similar circumstances. As AJ begins NASCAR's 'Road to Recovery' program, we wish him the best and look forward to seeing him compete again in NASCAR." Sam Hornish Jr., will drive the #22 Dodge at Pocono this weekend and for the foreseeable future. Penske Racing will evaluate its options for a driver of the #22 car for the 2013 NASCAR Sprint Cup season.(Penske Racing)(8-1-2012)
Statement from Allmendinger: "Effective today, I have been released from Penske Racing as driver of the #22 Dodge Charger. I wish to thank Mr. Penske, Penske Racing, their sponsors, and especially all the of the #22 team for the opportunity they provided me and for their support in this difficult time. I also, again, would like to thank all the fans that really have been awesome through this. I apologize for the distraction, embarrassment, and difficulties that my current suspension from NASCAR has provided. As I stated last week, I have begun NASCAR's Road to Recovery program and look forward to using those resources and its completion to compete again in NASCAR in the near future."
That kid sure pissed away his career. He is a good driver, but I would be surprised if he gets another Cup ride soon, if at all. He will probably get a Truck ride or maybe a Nationwide ride. To many other good drivers out there without drug habits looking for rides.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 29, 2012, 12:58:32 PM
Watching the Brickyard and noticed stands look 30 to 40 percent full. :rotz:
Everyone loves to go on and on about Indy and it's history and tradition...but they forget the part about the actual racing being boring as hell. Do you know of anyone who actually sits through an entire Indy 500 race? Most of us watch the beginning and the last few laps. The 3 hour nap in between is nice.
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 01, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 29, 2012, 12:58:32 PM
Watching the Brickyard and noticed stands look 30 to 40 percent full. :rotz:
Everyone loves to go on and on about Indy and it's history and tradition...but they forget the part about the actual racing being boring as hell. Do you know of anyone who actually sits through an entire Indy 500 race? Most of us watch the beginning and the last few laps. The 3 hour nap in between is nice.
I was next to the track on Sunday morning, had offers of over 30 free tickets, and still did not go.
And yes, I did get my 3 hour nap in my recliner during the race. :2thumbs:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 01, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 01, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 29, 2012, 12:58:32 PM
Watching the Brickyard and noticed stands look 30 to 40 percent full. :rotz:
Everyone loves to go on and on about Indy and it's history and tradition...but they forget the part about the actual racing being boring as hell. Do you know of anyone who actually sits through an entire Indy 500 race? Most of us watch the beginning and the last few laps. The 3 hour nap in between is nice.
I was next to the track on Sunday morning, had offers of over 30 free tickets, and still did not go.
And yes, I did get my 3 hour nap in my recliner during the race. :2thumbs:
I was there and on the track before the race , had free tickets in the stands , but opted to drive right out after the parade lap and listen to it on the radio , 9 hour ride home and all we were not staying .
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,93800.0.html
Had I not been completely beat from three days at the track and the time leading up to it, I would have stayed longer on Sunday. I watched the first 40 laps and went to get the trailer which was off site east of the golf course. Got back into the grounds at half distance, got my car loaded and out with about 40 to go. Watched the end at the hotel. I would have enjoyed staying longer and watching from some different vantage points. The Sunday morning arrival at 5:45 AM was rough on me.
I am also amazed how rough the area is around the race track. The trailer lot was east of the golf course and had 24 hour security. There were project apartments within a few hundred feet of the lot. This was not the worst one that I saw.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/Aero426/Indy2012/101_2047.jpg)
This was a 100 year old school now boarded up on Lafayette. Cool building.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/Aero426/Indy2012/101_2279.jpg)
Typical of the houses on Tibbs just east of the track. Nasty.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/Aero426/Indy2012/101_2287.jpg)
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 31, 2012, 07:42:59 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on July 31, 2012, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 31, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 30, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
yup....I'm getting real tired of Hendricks teams as well
Bryan
You supose that's how everybody felt about Petty back in his day?
I do agree it needs more action not compleet wreckage to bring out the yellow just close hard racing.
If I had the solution I would sale it to na$car :coolgleamA:
Petty was a GOD, I'm sure some people thought that way, that he wins too much :brickwall: with his 200 wins & 7 championships total as a driver, I wonder how everyone was thinking about all the wins Dale Sr. had & his 7 championships too, never 5 in a row though...
No Petty is a KING :nana: :nana: :nana: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Sr... who cares :shruggy: :flame:
yah 5 in a row is hard to swallow from a chevy driver wish it were a Dodge :coolgleamA:
too much of a good thing just gets boring sometimes like em or not I believe the cars are just to arrow dependent at the speeds they run and the cars so evenly matched to make for good racing. Without any comers and goers you just have follow the leader type racing except for the restarts. :Twocents:
:2thumbs: :cheers: :hah: :slap: Amen Richard Petty #43 is & will always be "the KING"...
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Everyone loves to go on and on about Indy and it's history and tradition...but they forget the part about the actual racing being boring as hell. Do you know of anyone who actually sits through an entire Indy 500 race? Most of us watch the beginning and the last few laps. The 3 hour nap in between is nice.
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I went to the Indy 500 several years ago. We spent most of the race walking around the infield and touring the museum. Then we left early to avoid the traffic. As for the race, all you saw was a burr of color shooting by...The only car I could recognize was the Go Daddy car because of its color. (It was worst than watching a tennis match!) One thing that really struck me was how "trashed out" the infield was. The trash cans, without exception were overflowing with empty beer cars. This was something I had never seen at a NASCAR race. Somehow with all the "we're better" than the red necks from NASCAR, and because of their, we drive "real" race cars attitude....I would have expected more out of both the track and those attending. I guess it was just my perception of Indy car races vs. stockcar races. Most people were just partying with few watching the race. It seemed as if the race was just an excuse for a party. It was a real eye opener! As for the neighborhood, well it wasn't the best...but many homeowners made money by allowing spectators to park on their front lawns....for a price of course. I have no desire to go to another Indy 500, but I can mark it off my bucket list..........(Just my two cents...) :Twocents:
I've been to Indy a couple of times, once each in the 70's, 80's & 90's, IMHO it's more of an event, than a race, allot of people attend like 250,000+, probably 1,000,000+ over a month, it's like a med/large cities worth of people, in one small 3-4 square mile area, everyone is just either getting drunk &/or are just slobs/pigs, most don't even try to hit the trash cans even, especially in the stands, they would need like 250,000+ trash cans, just to handle all the garbage, that is produced each day, there over nearly a month... The race is just a very small part & the climax of the event... Yes it's really freaken disgusting, I would think they would do more to keep it cleaner, especially in the infield areas, around the concession areas & restrooms.... I doubt I will ever go again... I would imagine it's a logistics nightmare to keep up with the volume of people & issues.. :Twocents:
Quote from: Budnicks on August 01, 2012, 05:29:18 PM
Yes it's really freaken disgusting, I would think they would do more to keep it cleaner, especially in the infield areas, around the concession areas & restrooms.... I doubt I will ever go again... I would imagine it's a logistics nightmare to keep up with the volume of people & issues.. :Twocents:
It simply just isn't that way today. It is a show place. The infield spectator viewing area today is limited to turn three.
moparts rumor mongers' said they heard:
Andretti from Indy car's planning to field a 2 car team.
Petty's coming back.
Furniture Row with Kurt Busch as one of the driver's.
And Penske's buying into Fenway Rousch & selling the engine shop to Mopar. Sounds like Mopar will do like Toyota & build the motors for the teams. If so, sounds like they'll need a bigger shop.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on August 03, 2012, 11:44:07 PM
moparts rumor mongers' said they heard:
Andretti from Indy car's planning to field a 2 car team.
Petty's coming back.
Furniture Row with Kurt Busch as one of the driver's.
And Penske's buying into Fenway Rousch & selling the engine shop to Mopar. Sounds like Mopar will do like Toyota & build the motors for the teams. If so, sounds like they'll need a bigger shop.
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
1 dead, 9 injured in lightning strike at Pocono
Lightning strikes at Pocono Raceway after a rain-shortened NASCAR race Sunday killed one fan and injured nine others, one critically, racetrack officials said.
Multiple lightning strikes occurred behind the racetrack's grandstands and outside one of the gates as fans were leaving, Pocono spokesman Bob Pleban said. It wasn't immediately clear how many of the fans were actually struck by the lightning itself or were injured by related jolts.
''Unfortunately, a member of our raceway family here, a fan, has passed away,'' Pocono President Brandon Igdalsky said in announcing the death. He provided no details about the victim but expressed condolences to his family.
The victim was in or near his car in a parking lot after the race had ended when lightning struck the car, Monroe County Coroner Bob Allen said. Bystanders performed CPR on the man, who had gone into cardiac arrest, until paramedics arrived, Allen said. They took him to the track's medical facility, where efforts to revive him failed. He was pronounced dead at a hospital.
More on the link...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pocono-10-injured-lightning-strike-232255957--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pocono-10-injured-lightning-strike-232255957--nascar.html)
sad to hear. :rotz:
http://www.nascar.com/news/120807/dodge-leaving-nascar/
Dodge pulling out
Bad news...
Quote from: moparstuart on August 07, 2012, 11:30:20 AM
http://www.nascar.com/news/120807/dodge-leaving-nascar/
Dodge pulling out
that sucks for us Dodge guys. I dont think theyre pulling out as much as they simply didn't have much of a choice without any big teams to run their cars. Whoever is running Petty nowadays screwed this up big time. They could have gone back to Dodge and be the brand's flagship once again. Instead, theyre staying with Ford and with Penske back in the fold, Petty won't even be second banana.
If Petty went to Dodge, and assuming a deal was worked out for engines, they would still have to expand to have their own chassis shop. As a Roush affiliated team, their cars and engines are essentially provided to them turn key.
I agree, it's bad news and a sad day.
Didn't see this one coming.....after all the rumors and Dodge developing a new car for 2013....
So much for all three "pony cars" meeting on the track in the Nationwide series.
sad day :rotz:
Quote from: Aero426 on August 03, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 01, 2012, 05:29:18 PM
Yes it's really freaken disgusting, I would think they would do more to keep it cleaner, especially in the infield areas, around the concession areas & restrooms.... I doubt I will ever go again... I would imagine it's a logistics nightmare to keep up with the volume of people & issues.. :Twocents:
It simply just isn't that way today. It is a show place. The infield spectator viewing area today is limited to turn three.
:2thumbs: Good it needed to be done... :slap:
It's sad. Pretty soon, it will only be Fords left. Then they will have their IROC cars again :rotz:
I wonder when Hyundai will announce their intention to join Nascar...... Nascar sucks....
Quote from: Indygenerallee on August 07, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
I wonder when Hyundai will announce their intention to join Nascar...... Nascar sucks....
honda is next to join i'm sure with all there racing involvement already
Looks like he had Adderal in his system.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/aj-allmendinger-discusses-suspension-aftermath-080712
I heard that too. I thought maybe he ate something with poppy seed on it. I cant eat that cause of random drug tests at work.
I can proudly say I have NEVER owned a non Mopar vehicle in my life. Dodge in or out of Nascar doesn't change my loyalty.
Bottom line: Dodge pulled out of a sanctioning body that has declining fan base. And those 'fans" go for the driver not the brand of car.
They don't even mention the type of car in the driver standings anymore.
That being said, BRAD - go kick some butt 'till years end!!!!!!!!!!
Personally, I don't see the point of NASCAR race cars at all today. Other than one or two styling cues, stick on headlights and brand name decals, they all look the same. Today's stock cars bear absolutely zero resemblance to anything you can buy off the showroom floor. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Honda, what's it matter; peel off the decals, put another brand name on, slap in a different brand X engine (that doesn't come in a street car) it & viola, you have a new brand of car.
I found it interesting to see the headline on one of the stories from yesterday stating that basically Penske moving to Ford pushed Dodge out of NASCAR. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Chrysler/Fait only offer Penske a three year deal when he wanted a five year contract? So for the difference of two years Penske decided to move on to Ford. Penske a business man, and will do what's best for Penske, so the Ford deal must have been a good one. Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds as if Dodge may have been planning to get out of NASCAR within a few years anyway. Come on... to lose your flagship team over a two year difference....something doesn't sound right. Dodge (SRT Group) said that they couldn't find a top level team that would switch to Dodge products....the only real option it appears would have been Petty, and just think of all the hoopla that would have created in the media...."Petty back with Dodge". If Dodge was hoping for Childress, Hendrick, Gibbs, or Earnhardt/Ganassi to switch manufacturers...then they were just dreaming...........
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on August 08, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Personally, I don't see the point of NASCAR race cars at all today. Other than one or two styling cues, stick on headlights and brand name decals, they all look the same. Today's stock cars bear absolutely zero resemblance to anything you can buy off the showroom floor. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Honda, what's it matter; peel off the decals, put another brand name on, slap in a different brand X engine (that doesn't come in a street car) it & viola, you have a new brand of car.
2013 was to be different. The new Charger was a much more exciting race car.
(http://stblogs.automotive.com/files/2012/03/2013-Dodge-Charger-Nascar-Sprint-Cup-Car-and-production-version-drivers-side-three-quarters-623x389.jpg)
Quote from: Aero426 on August 08, 2012, 09:08:58 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on August 08, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Personally, I don't see the point of NASCAR race cars at all today. Other than one or two styling cues, stick on headlights and brand name decals, they all look the same. Today's stock cars bear absolutely zero resemblance to anything you can buy off the showroom floor. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Honda, what's it matter; peel off the decals, put another brand name on, slap in a different brand X engine (that doesn't come in a street car) it & viola, you have a new brand of car.
2013 was to be different. The new Charger was a much more exciting race car.
(http://stblogs.automotive.com/files/2012/03/2013-Dodge-Charger-Nascar-Sprint-Cup-Car-and-production-version-drivers-side-three-quarters-623x389.jpg)
yep, thats the sad thing...NASCAR is finally moving away from the "spec" car (at least with the bodies) and the cars are going to look more like their road going counterparts.
The 2013 NASCAR Charger could have been a dog in actual competition for all we know, but it sure as hell does look good. Maybe 20-30 years from now, when Jalopnik does one of their articles of "Coolest race cars that never raced", this will be one of them. Or itll join the 3rd Gen winged cars in the "what could have been" file.
Quote from: odcics2 on August 08, 2012, 04:47:46 AM
I can proudly say I have NEVER owned a non Mopar vehicle in my life. Dodge in or out of Nascar doesn't change my loyalty.
I have never really understood people who do this. And it is not just Dodge people, just as many GM and Ford guys are the same way.
There are way to many nice cars out there by other manufactures not to at least consider something else. I know at least for me, there is really nothing Mopar has made after 1972 I am interested in. I have had Daytonas, minivans, even a Conquest and they were all junk. Sure the new Rams are nice, but I rather have a F-350. Sure the new Challengers are nice, but I rather have a Mustang. My daily driver is a Yukon, by far the best vehicle I have ever owned.
Now to be fair, I have had a string of Jeeps, starting with AMC and have liked all of them, even my 88 Grand Wagoneer. AMC started a great thing, and luckily Chrysler did not mess with the Jeep line too much.
Not saying your opinion is wrong, just different. ;)
As a brand loyal type of guy, I am very saddened by this news. It may sound silly to some but I can honestly say that I will no longer view or attend any nascar events. For someone like me, cheering on the Mopar cars and teams at NHRA, nascar, and any local dirt track or drag strip is an integral part of my being. With no-one to cheer for I no longer have a reason to watch. :'(
QuoteI have never really understood people who do this. And it is not just Dodge people, just as many GM and Ford guys are the same way.
I used to be like that but I have owned a few Fords since then (mainly Mustangs) although I really have never had much luck with Chevy's I don't mind Pontiacs so not all GM's are bad :lol:
The King is one of the reasons I became a Mopar person......
Quote from: wingcar on August 08, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
The King is one of the reasons I became a Mopar person......
I still is to be honest. And he still is my idol. :yesnod:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 08, 2012, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: wingcar on August 08, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
The King is one of the reasons I became a Mopar person......
I still is to be honest. And he still is my idol. :yesnod:
I'm sure he brought in many of our generation, name & brand recognition/loyalty, He's
"the KING" 200 driver wins & 7 championships after all, I personally like many brands, 3 of which, of the many, are all gone now, Plymouth, Olds & Pontiac... I love all things mechanical, cars, motorcycles, boats, Rv's, Trucks, 4x4's & Jeeps/Heeps, Motor-homes, Quads, not just Mopars,
but Mopars are my 1st love & will always be....
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still dont recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
Quote from: moparstuart on August 08, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still dont recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
Amen ...
Give me an AMEN Mopar Brother :angel:
Quote from: moparstuart on August 08, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still dont recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
Same for me. I like a little of every make, including a few imports. And I agree, RAM = Dodge
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 09, 2012, 05:08:14 AM
And I agree, RAM = Dodge
I have yet to meet someone who "gets" the RAM name as a manufacturer.
Except to the new owners over in Fiat headquarters where it seems to make perfect sense. The same sort of stuff went on under Daimler, they just do not understand this part of the world and rather than try to they would prefer to keep reinventing the wheel.
Quote from: moparstuart on August 08, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still don't recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
:2thumbs: Plymouth 1st :shruggy: Another Amen to that fellow Mopar Brotheren... :cheers:
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on August 08, 2012, 08:44:53 AM
Personally, I don't see the point of NASCAR race cars at all today. Other than one or two styling cues, stick on headlights and brand name decals, they all look the same. Today's stock cars bear absolutely zero resemblance to anything you can buy off the showroom floor. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Honda, what's it matter; peel off the decals, put another brand name on, slap in a different brand X engine (that doesn't come in a street car) it & viola, you have a new brand of car.
this seems to be a major complaint from a LOT of people, we have the same problem in australia with V8supercars, yet those same people don't seem to support those classes that do have factory race cars.
MoPar or NO CAR says it all!!
What irks me is seeing a WW2 war veteran driving a Toyota. He was willing to die for his country, but now is killing it by sending his $$$ overseas.
Now that, I don't get at all...
Quote from: odcics2 on August 09, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
MoPar or NO CAR says it all!!
What irks me is seeing a WW2 war veteran driving a Toyota. He was willing to die for his country, but now is killing it by sending his $$$ overseas.
Now that, I don't get at all...
Yeah, my uncles were all in the service & were over seas so they drilled it in my head growing up. That's prolly why I'm like that now. Also helps that my Mom's been in the car business since the '70's & has been a comptroller @ a Mopar dealer in Texas the past 2 decades. She's about to retire so if we're gonna buy a rig we need to hurry.
For those of you wishing Petty got back with Dodge, well, hate to say, but Richard wanted to stay with Ford!
Quote from the race results today on Nacsar.com:
"Petty and Ambrose were two inside the organization who wanted to stay with Ford, even before Sunday's old-school win. Murstein wasn't so sure.
"There's money and then there's the love of this sport," Murstein said. "That's why I think Richard and I are a good pair. I try to keep an eye on the checkbook, and Richard just reminds me what this sport is all about, and where it came from, and what the fans mean to it. And Richard really wanted to stay with Ford all along. He felt comfortable with them and he thought we were showing improvements along the way with them.
"We were going back and forth for a while. And every time I would say, 'Yeah, but look at the money that's coming from Dodge,' he would come back and say, 'But look at the relationship we've built with Ford. Sometimes the people you know are better than the people you don't know.' I don't know which way it would have gone. Just like this race, it probably would have gone down to the wire."
Quote from: odcics2 on August 09, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
MoPar or NO CAR says it all!!
What irks me is seeing a WW2 war veteran driving a Toyota. He was willing to die for his country, but now is killing it by sending his $$$ overseas.
Now that, I don't get at all...
this stuff again? please...
Buy a Chevy, Dodge, or Ford, and youre sending your money to Canada and Mexico.
Quote from: moparstuart on August 08, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still dont recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
so I take it youre not a big fan of the SRT Viper?
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 13, 2012, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on August 08, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I like all the brands too I am First and Foremost a PLYMOUTH Fan , But i tolerate Dodges . Chryslers. Jeeps, Imperials and desotos. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: MOPAR OR NO CAR
And i still dont recognize RAM as it own brand they are Dodge Trucks
so I take it youre not a big fan of the SRT Viper?
I love the Dodge Viper SRT :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke:
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 13, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on August 09, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
MoPar or NO CAR says it all!!
What irks me is seeing a WW2 war veteran driving a Toyota. He was willing to die for his country, but now is killing it by sending his $$$ overseas.
Now that, I don't get at all...
this stuff again? please...
Buy a Chevy, Dodge, or Ford, and youre sending your money to Canada and Mexico.
I agree with the guy. I do not feel like buying a Toyota that is made in Indiana or wherever and watching the profits go to Osaka. Also, I do not like the idea that foreign companies own us all while we are talking about how superior the cupholders are on foreign vehicles.
A foreign car built in the U.S. is still foreign. I would much rather see my money go to Canada and Mexico and have the profits stay here.
At least in Canada they actually buy cars built by GM, Ford and Chrysler, how many Chargers, Challengers and Caravans do you think are roaming the streets of Tokyo? I guess if having the cars built in Canada is so terrible then maybe they shouldn't be sold here either?
The logo on the front is where the profits go. And where that company is based is where the majority of that money will get spent.
regardless of everything else, nascar is getting me to sour. i have been a rock solid fan for as long as i can remember. and still was until now. im losing interest this year real heavily. i wont watch a race without it being prerecorded so i dont waste my entire day. i fast forward until i see one of my fav's on the screen or a yellow light in the corner of the screen. then i watch those moments. even after the race was over last week and sports center was recapping, their interviews were with the three. yep jimmie, jeffrey,and junior. only one was in the top 10 at the end, but it doesnt matter what anyone else has to say, they want to here from these three. blah blah blah. im just about done with it.
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 15, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
regardless of everything else, nascar is getting me to sour. i have been a rock solid fan for as long as i can remember. and still was until now. im losing interest this year real heavily. i wont watch a race without it being prerecorded so i dont waste my entire day. i fast forward until i see one of my fav's on the screen or a yellow light in the corner of the screen. then i watch those moments. even after the race was over last week and sports center was recapping, their interviews were with the three. yep jimmie, jeffrey,and junior. only one was in the top 10 at the end, but it doesnt matter what anyone else has to say, they want to here from these three. blah blah blah. im just about done with it.
Sounds like your complaint should be directed at ESPN, not NASCAR.
well, partly true. but through the race coverage its the same thing. gordon can be in 25th place and they will follow his car for 6 laps while recapping his entire life. if these guys are in the lead they stick with them. but you get a guy like vickers in the lead and they will focus on whereever one of the three is. every race they have programed into the announcers heads to pick these guys as the probable to win the race. after a race this year they showed a couple seconds of a burnout by the winner, went to gordon who finished 12th and asked what happend to him. then went to the winners circle for a minute to celebrate. after that they talked to the second place finisher. then off to jr who finished 32nd. what about 3rd 4th and 5th? thats a big complaint i have. espn for 1 and the network carrier of the race all believe that since they have the most fans, thats who we should hear from.
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 15, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
well, partly true. but through the race coverage its the same thing. gordon can be in 25th place and they will follow his car for 6 laps while recapping his entire life. if these guys are in the lead they stick with them. but you get a guy like vickers in the lead and they will focus on whereever one of the three is. every race they have programed into the announcers heads to pick these guys as the probable to win the race. after a race this year they showed a couple seconds of a burnout by the winner, went to gordon who finished 12th and asked what happend to him. then went to the winners circle for a minute to celebrate. after that they talked to the second place finisher. then off to jr who finished 32nd. what about 3rd 4th and 5th? thats a big complaint i have. espn for 1 and the network carrier of the race all believe that since they have the most fans, thats who we should hear from.
And I think you just answered your own question/complaint. :shruggy:
the only way to watch the races on tv now a days, is to DVR it and let the thing get 90 minutes ahead of you, then skip the commercials :cheers:
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 15, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
the only way to watch the races on tv now a days, is to DVR it and let the thing get 90 minutes ahead of you, then skip the commercials :cheers:
yup...exactly what we do
Bryan
The link below is an interesting blog devoted to NASCAR TV coverage and the critique thereof. The author formerly worked for ESPN. Many people are frustrated with the way the various networks handle things during the telecast. ESPN has a particular format of trying to "make TV" rather than just covering the race.
http://www.dalyplanet.blogspot.com/ (http://www.dalyplanet.blogspot.com/)
that was alot of good reading with tons of different views on the comment side. i guess the race was seen different by each individual.
I usually find those ones to be the most interesing though, don't you?
Haha...this guys nails it right on the head. I bought this game when it first came out and remember wanting my money back (NASCAR related)
http://jalopnik.com/5935096/this-is-the-best-rant-about-an-8+bit-racing-game-ever
Warning: language not NSFW
Scary wreck for Martin yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxSxf6fpCHI
Quote from: NHCharger on August 20, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
Scary wreck for Martin yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxSxf6fpCHI
yea..I bet they put water barrels in front of all pit lane open barriers from now on
Bryan
or they taper the walls inward. Another few feet, that would of been ugly
when we seen that hit, we were amazed that he wasnt hurt. a couple feet forward, no more mark. that has to be discussed.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 15, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
Many people are frustrated with the way the various networks handle things during the telecast. ESPN has a particular format of trying to "make TV" rather than just covering the race.
:scratchchin:
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:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on August 15, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 15, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
the only way to watch the races on tv now a days, is to DVR it and let the thing get 90 minutes ahead of you, then skip the commercials :cheers:
yup...exactly what we do
Bryan
Best invention ever made I have cut my tv time in half if not more by doing this. I have even cought myself skipping ahead during some of the races latly :slap: it just dosent hold the same excitement it use to.
:iagree:
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 21, 2012, 07:32:10 AM
when we seen that hit, we were amazed that he wasnt hurt. a couple feet forward, no more mark. that has to be discussed.
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That could have been a lot worse then it was.
bristol baby. i will watch this one. :2thumbs:
Apparently Hendricks has found another way to cheat legally. Brad K had been bitching about a modified axle in the Henricks car. NASCAR found that they have modified the axle to turn slightly to follow the front wheels. This gives them much more speed in the corners. After inspecting this NASCAR proclaimed it was legal since other teams were starting to do this ::)
Quote from: NHCharger on August 26, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
Apparently Hendricks has found another way to cheat legally. Brad K had been bitching about a modified axle in the Henricks car. NASCAR found that they have modified the axle to turn slightly to follow the front wheels. This gives them much more speed in the corners. After inspecting this NASCAR proclaimed it was legal since other teams were starting to do this ::)
what a crock :rotz: keep letting them get away withthis crap
another sad event. oh well, there may be some excitement. tony will be out to enjoy a hunting season. :smilielol:
Quote from: moparstuart on August 26, 2012, 08:05:25 AM
Quote from: NHCharger on August 26, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
Apparently Hendricks has found another way to cheat legally. Brad K had been bitching about a modified axle in the Henricks car. NASCAR found that they have modified the axle to turn slightly to follow the front wheels. This gives them much more speed in the corners. After inspecting this NASCAR proclaimed it was legal since other teams were starting to do this ::)
what a crock :rotz: keep letting them get away withthis crap
Amen to that, Pensky or Roush couldn't get away with that type crap, like the Hendricks teams does, remember the B-Pillar &/or C-pillar incident earlier, how long were they able to run the car before they were told to correct the problems... They {NASCAR} seem to want
Chevy, Jr., Jimmy or Jeff to win the Championship or something, but still a Toyota is Leading even with all the cheating going on in the Hendricks camp, go figure, maybe they are cheating even more...
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
the sad thing is they get caught over and over but only get fined and no points taken away , or thye give the points back a few weeks later after it has all blown over . bunch of BS
It's like a reality show on wheels.
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
:2thumbs:
If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL... :nana: Creative Rules Interpretations :brickwall:
Quote from: Budnicks on August 28, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
:2thumbs: If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL... :nana: Creative Rules Interpretations :brickwall:
I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.
I"m likely missing it somewhere but I don't remember anyone saying they never cheated when NASCAR was good.
one thing people actually enjoyed about vintage nascar was the variety of cars. unmistakeable body styles. you knew what you were looking at. plymouth, dodge, ford, buick. you knew what the car was. today every car has the same shape, same wing, angle of wing. just the paint job tells you what its supposed to be. they arent selling cars any more, they are selling products and celebrities. thats why nascar sucks now. yep, every body tries to get an edge. but if you are not at the top of the fan base, (michael waltrip racing) you will pay. if you own the spotlight, (hendrick motor sports) nascar is afraid to punish you because it could cause a stir and lose money. the hendrick fans are happy with the decisions.
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 28, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 28, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
:2thumbs: If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL... :nana: Creative Rules Interpretations :brickwall:
I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.
WTF
Quote from: Budnicks on August 29, 2012, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 28, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 28, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
:2thumbs: If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL... :nana: Creative Rules Interpretations :brickwall:
I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.
WTF
my bad dude...that comment wasn't directly at you, it was actually agreeing with you.
I just don't get why people get their panties in a bunch over this. Hendrick getting away with it now is no different than Petty getting away with it in the 60s-70s. Cheating is part of the sport.
I don't anyone would dispute that though. I think its only a big deal now because its current. Talking about Hendricks cheating now is as intersting as talking about the who won the last race. Talking about Petty cheating in 69 (he had to btw, he was driving a Ford that year) is about as interesting as talking about who won Riverside that year.
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 29, 2012, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 29, 2012, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 28, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 28, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: cdr on August 26, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
the best cheater that dont get caught usually wins
:2thumbs: If you ain't cheaten, you ain't trying...LOL... :nana: Creative Rules Interpretations :brickwall:
I hate to sound like a broken record...but please! The Petty's cheated, Smokey Yunick cheated, EVERYBODY cheated..and yet you "NASCAR sucks now" guys speak oh so fondly of those good old days and even revere those guys for outsmarting "the man". Get over it already.
WTF
my bad dude...that comment wasn't directly at you, it was actually agreeing with you.
I just don't get why people get their panties in a bunch over this. Hendrick getting away with it now is no different than Petty getting away with it in the 60s-70s. Cheating is part of the sport.
That's kind of what I thought :brickwall: ... :2thumbs: thanks for the clarification
Butch Hartman's '72 USAC car was a little cheated up. USAC was somewhat lax on enforcing sheet metal. This is from Pocono, 72. Good looking car, and bad fast too.
But then again, if that "lax-ness" was applied across the board, is it still cheating?
Quote from: Ghoste on August 30, 2012, 05:24:55 PM
But then again, if that "lax-ness" was applied across the board, is it still cheating?
I can't recall anyone else with a windshield laid back that far. Maybe Junior Johnson's Yellow Banana.
if this dont beat it all, johnson causes a wreck by driving up the track into hornish jr. and these idiots say newman shouldnt have been on the outside causing the wreck. newman didnt do anything wrong but shouldnt have been there. WTF.... why cant they say jimmy caused the wreck and pushed hornish up the track cause his spotter didnt tell him he wasnt clear yet. :shruggy:
Par for the course. Even though I am not a Hamlin fan, at least he won so Newman has a chance to get in the Chase next week. If Gordon had won, Newman was done.
yep, newman has to win now to get in. but hamlin kept gordon behind him. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 02, 2012, 09:53:57 PM
if this dont beat it all, johnson causes a wreck by driving up the track into hornish jr. and these idiots say newman shouldnt have been on the outside causing the wreck. newman didnt do anything wrong but shouldnt have been there. WTF.... why cant they say jimmy caused the wreck and pushed hornish up the track cause his spotter didnt tell him he wasnt clear yet. :shruggy:
I laughed my ass off and do everytime he crashes. It's a beautiful site to see. :lol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 03, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
I laughed my ass off and do everytime he crashes. It's a beautiful site to see. :lol:
as do I..either him or Gordon....if they both crash..I'm rolling on the floor
Bryan
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Quote from: General_01 on September 02, 2012, 10:33:11 PM
Par for the course. Even though I am not a Hamlin fan, at least he won so Newman has a chance to get in the Chase next week. If Gordon had won, Newman was done.
Thats what I was thinking too. Gordon was fast, but I was cheering Denny so Ryan had a chance to race in the Chase. Two wrecks in two weeks, makes it hard to make the Chase.
As a side note, looks like not only Ryan has lost his main sponsor, so has Tony as Office Depot just announced they were leaving. I am curious whether Ryan will be able to stay at SHR because of sponsorship problems. Some websites have Ryan talking to Penske again. :shruggy:
Office Depot, co-primary sponsor for Tony Stewart's #14 Chevy in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series since Stewart took over the team in 2009, will not return in that capacity in 2013, a team spokesman confirmed. "Office Depot has notified SHR that they will not be renewing as the primary sponsor of the #14 team," SHR spokesman Mike Arning said. "However, SHR is in continued discussions with Office Depot regarding possible future roles the company could have with the team." Asked what those future roles might be, Arning was unable to specify. "They want to be involved with Tony and the team, but are unsure how right now," he said. Office Depot's departure leaves quite a void for SHR. The office-products company held the primary sponsorship in 22 of 38 races in 2012. Mobil 1, which holds primary sponsorship of the #14 in the series' remaining 16 events, will carry the same investment in 2013, Arning said.
Mindy Kramer, Senior Director of Communications for Office Depot, said the decision to leave the three-time champion was difficult and not taken lightly. "The changing business landscape warrants a realignment of priorities and resources," Kramer said via written statement. "That being said, Tony Stewart has been an exceptional ambassador for our brand, and he has gone above and beyond in everything that he has done for our company. Being a part of his legendary 2011 championship run was a moment of tremendous pride for everyone at Office Depot." Office Depot is also currently the "Official Office Products Partner" of NASCAR, a status they've held since 2005. Kramer and NASCAR spokesman Jon Schwartz both said the two sides are still negotiating any future relationship.(ESPN)(9-2-2012)
Logano to drive for Penske Racing next season
Joey Logano will join the Penske Racing in 2013, the team announced. He will drive the No. 22 Ford in the Sprint Cup Series.
http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 04, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Logano to drive for Penske Racing next season
Joey Logano will join the Penske Racing in 2013, the team announced. He will drive the No. 22 Ford in the Sprint Cup Series.
http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/120904/jlogano-to-penske-racing-2013/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
I just read that too.
This is just my opinion, but I do not like this move. I do not think Logano has turned out to be anywhere near what people were saying. And if he can not make it at JGR, does anyone really think it will be better at PRS. I would have kept Sam in the 22, he has been doing a great job since taking over the ride.
I agree...let Sam continue
Bryan
i agree, sam is doing great. he has shown that he deserves a ride. thought newman was headed that direction, but want him to stay with tony. oh well, guess we will see.
I think Newmans days are numbered now that Office Depot is pulling out. They were looking for one sponser before at Stewart-Hass. Now they need two. The first sponsor they find is going to want to sponser a 3 time champion before Newman and sponsors aren't growing on trees for them any more. Just my :Twocents:
Bummer for Hornish. He was doing a good job. Logano ain't that great. He was number 3 behind Hamlin and Busch. Now he'll just be number two behind Keselowski. Maybe it will work out better for him. Brad can teach him how to throw water bottles out to get a caution when he is losing. Maybe that will help him win more. :rofl:
Quote from: A383Wing on September 04, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
I agree...let Sam continue
Bryan
I agree too. I dont like Logano at all.
Well, now that we are all in agreement it was a bad move, who is going to call Roger and tell him? :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: General_01 on September 04, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
I think Newmans days are numbered now that Office Depot is pulling out. They were looking for one sponser before at Stewart-Hass. Now they need two. The first sponsor they find is going to want to sponser a 3 time champion before Newman and sponsors aren't growing on trees for them any more.
Yea, not sure what they are going to do there. Ryan and Tony are best friends, but if sponsorship is not available. . . . . . With this Penske ride filling up, if SHR does not find him a sponsor he may be running the Furniture Row start and park car.
Just found this. Just a one year though? :shruggy:
Newman re-signs with Stewart Haas? Ryan Newman has agreed to a one-year contract extension with Stewart-Haas Racing. The extension will ensure Newman is the driver of SHR's #39 Chevy through the end of the 2013 season. Newman and SHR have been involved in negotiations for several weeks. An official announcement from the team could come as soon as this weekend.
sweet. glad they worked it out. at least 1 more year anyway. :drive:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on September 06, 2012, 07:55:07 AM
Just found this. Just a one year though? :shruggy:
Newman re-signs with Stewart Haas? Ryan Newman has agreed to a one-year contract extension with Stewart-Haas Racing. The extension will ensure Newman is the driver of SHR's #39 Chevy through the end of the 2013 season. Newman and SHR have been involved in negotiations for several weeks. An official announcement from the team could come as soon as this weekend.
Not sure how this relates to the fact that he only signed a one year deal, but isn't Danic*nt supposed to run full time w/ SHR next year? Even though shes a shitty driver, she is a sponsor magnet. Shell probably bring a big name or two (and a bunch of smaller names), and SHR as whole will benefit from it.
The race is over and the Chase is on. I don't think he can do it, but I got to give some support to Keselowski for being the only Dodge out there. :grouphug:
MWR (15, 56) They don't stand a chance. They have never been in the chase before. If I had to pick, it would be Bowyer.
Phony Stewart is a wild card. :icon_smile_question: If he gets on a role like he did last year, then maybe. :-\
Roush (16, 17) Either one has a good chance of getting it. I'm going to favor Biffle. :2thumbs: He has won championships in the trucks and Nationwide, and is running pretty consistant. He is also returning to Roush next year and Roush has probably learned from Edwards last year.
Harvick is not in championship mode like he was the last two years.
Hendrick (5, 24, 48, 88)I'm going to favor Kasey Kahne. He has the fire and runs pretty consistant. Hopefully, he has the luck. :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
Gordon, doubt it. But, maybe. :icon_smile_question: :icon_smile_question:
Dale Lsr. :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: No way. :sorry:
JJ Everyones pick Not mine. He's the reason I get up and do something else besides watch NASCAR. He makes me :eek2:.
Hamlin has the best shot. He has the fire, the consistancy, the winning crew cheif from last year, and lessons learned from two years ago.
My top four picks for the championship in order: Hamlin, Biffle, Kayne, and unfortunately, JJ :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 05, 2012, 12:03:02 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on September 04, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
I agree...let Sam continue
Bryan
I agree too. I dont like Logano at all.
Send Logano back to Nationwide. He does better and he could use the experience. ::) :icon_smile_cool:
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
Just reading some past blogs. Someone asked about building a vintage looking Nascar charger. To get that raked look, they leveled the chassis and cut out part of the firewall and along the rocker panels until they got to the back seat. I ain't 100% positive, but I think they took out about 4 inches. I read it in some past interview with Petty.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
I thought they had little E on camera doing that?
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on September 09, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
I thought they had little E on camera doing that?
No, they had little E admitting he spun on purpose to bring out a caution.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on September 09, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
I thought they had little E on camera doing that?
It has been 4-5 years ago that Gordon done that.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
:2thumbs: I agree
Quote from: General_01 on September 09, 2012, 09:07:39 PM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on September 09, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 03, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
How about the Keslowski {spelling ?} "water bottle" yellow, NASCAR said was for "other" debri on the track, Harvick was pissed...LOL... You see these "funny debri cautions" more & more now...
Don't forget Robby Gordons' rollbar padding. That tops them all in my book
I thought they had little E on camera doing that?
No, they had little E admitting he spun on purpose to bring out a caution.
or wreck someone else on purpose to get a caution so they can pit too....
Yeah, I've seen him do that plenty of times, but he's still everyone's favorite, almost everybody. But not mine :eek2:
Damn! I was hoping Harvick would throw a water bottle out with 5 to go. Hate Keslowski. :rotz:
Brad looked like David Pearson pulling away on the last run.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 16, 2012, 04:30:08 PM
Brad looked like David Pearson pulling away on the last run.
Are you Dale Jarret? ;)
great win for dodge :cheers:
:cheers: :cheers: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: better than johnson :2thumbs:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 16, 2012, 05:41:26 PM
:cheers: :cheers: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: better than johnson :2thumbs:
I agree
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:cheers:
Good win for the no door Charger :nana:
No door Charger, haha first time I've ever heard that. :lol:
Quote from: Ghoste on September 17, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
No door Charger, haha first time I've ever heard that. :lol:
Still sounds better than 4 door Charger :rofl:
Oh yes, and there were a lot of flip top Chargers that were technically no door ones as well.
Since he won the race I thought I'd share some photos that our US friends in Joliet Illinois posted on FB. These were taken last thursday as my buddy Jeff that owns Double J sports Bar in Joliet had Brad in for a meet and greet. Thought some of you would find this cool.
Brad's ok in the duece Kurt was fun to watch as well, but I prefer the original, RUSTY!!!
I like Brad!
Quote from: 41husk on September 18, 2012, 07:32:29 AM
I like Brad!
Brad's more fun when him and Edwards don't get along
http://www.nascar.com/news/120918/nascar-reinstates-allmendinger/index.html (http://www.nascar.com/news/120918/nascar-reinstates-allmendinger/index.html)
the dinger is back, sort of, he aint got no ride though, we'll see if he learned anything from mayfield
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 18, 2012, 07:21:05 PM
http://www.nascar.com/news/120918/nascar-reinstates-allmendinger/index.html (http://www.nascar.com/news/120918/nascar-reinstates-allmendinger/index.html)
the dinger is back, sort of, he aint got no ride though, we'll see if he learned anything from mayfield
That was fast. I hope the kid can stay clean.
Penske did say last week he may rehire the kid. He is a good driver
He may not actually be a user... but that would mean he is an idiot, didnt he say he took something someone gave him?
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 18, 2012, 08:52:16 PM
He may not actually be a user... but that would mean he is an idiot, didnt he say he took something someone gave him?
I read it was Adderall. Supposed to be like coke, only not coke.
Mayfield was just an all around user. Same way with the Hmeil kid a few years ago. I doubt it if Allmendinger done it on perpose. If he does it again, that would verify that he's a user. He's had too many good things happen to him to just throw it away, even though some people do. I'm glad he's back, now I think we'll really see what he's made of.
I thought A.J. Dinger was suspended/or banned for the whole season or maybe it was a full year ??, WTF is NASCAR getting soft now...LOL... :brickwall: , if he tested positive "twice in 2 different supplied samples", he should have to serve the full suspension/ban IMHO anyway, whether he did it on purpose or not, knowingly taking any banned substance or not... :shruggy: you have to be held responsible for your own actions, he was a real hot head while with RPM, The "King" RP had to take him aside a few times, straighten' his dumb ass out, jeopardizing his racing career, it makes you wonder, WTF was he was on then ?? :Twocents:
Quote from: Hemidog on September 17, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
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:cheers:
front wheel drive,,front smoken and back not turning,from pic????hahaha--- :rofl: :smilielol: :smilielol:---joking dont freak,lol :popcrn: :2thumbs: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: Budnicks on September 22, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
I thought A.J. Dinger was suspended/or banned for the whole season or maybe it was a full year ??, WTF is NASCAR getting soft now...LOL... :brickwall: , if he tested positive "twice in 2 different supplied samples", he should have to serve the full suspension/ban IMHO anyway, whether he did it on purpose or not, knowingly taking any banned substance or not... :shruggy: you have to be held responsible for your own actions, he was a real hot head while with RPM, The "King" RP had to take him aside a few times, straighten' his dumb ass out, jeopardizing his racing career, it makes you wonder, WTF was he was on then ?? :Twocents:
those samples were pulled at the same time, technically he only tested positive for one event not more than one, and he has done exactly what NASCAR has told him to do, unlike mayfield
and the suspension was "indefinite" not for the whole season, what AKA however long NASCAR decides
Long-time racing journalist Chris Economaki dies :'( R.I.P. Chris. You were great!
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120928/CARNEWS/120929850 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120928/CARNEWS/120929850)
Busch set to drive No. 78 in Charlotte - Also signed to be in this car next season
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/busch-set-drive-no-78-144807929--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/busch-set-drive-no-78-144807929--nascar.html)
R.I.P. CHRIS :'(
Yep, Chris was a guy who enjoyed the sport, it wasn't just a job.
Dover race was boooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnnggggg. Glad it's over and glad Brad won. Chock another one win to Dodge :2thumbs:
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 22, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on September 22, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
I thought A.J. Dinger was suspended/or banned for the whole season or maybe it was a full year ??, WTF is NASCAR getting soft now...LOL... :brickwall: , if he tested positive "twice in 2 different supplied samples", he should have to serve the full suspension/ban IMHO anyway, whether he did it on purpose or not, knowingly taking any banned substance or not... :shruggy: you have to be held responsible for your own actions, he was a real hot head while with RPM, The "King" RP had to take him aside a few times, straighten' his dumb ass out, jeopardizing his racing career, it makes you wonder, WTF was he was on then ?? :Twocents:
those samples were pulled at the same time, technically he only tested positive for one event not more than one, and he has done exactly what NASCAR has told him to do, unlike mayfield
and the suspension was "indefinite" not for the whole season, what AKA however long NASCAR decides
:2thumbs: thanks
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 30, 2012, 04:35:49 PM
Dover race was boooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnnggggg. Glad it's over and glad Brad won. Chock another one win to Dodge :2thumbs:
yea...I even fell asleep watching it....as much as I dislike BK, at least it was not 24 or 48 that won
Bryan
I was hoping BK and JJ would run out of gas and JG would win. I don't like any of them and figured it would be the best scenario since JG has no shot at winning the Championship anyways.
Quote from: General_01 on September 30, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
I was hoping BK and JJ would run out of gas and JG would win. I don't like any of them and figured it would be the best scenario since JG has no shot at winning the Championship anyways.
You wouldn't want the Dodge to win?
i dislike JG so much that i root for him to do poorly no matter how many points he has. dvr saved the day again. enjoyed football and put it on fast forward till the cautions came out. think it took 15 min to watch the whole race. :smilielol:
Quote from: Aero426 on September 30, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: General_01 on September 30, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
I was hoping BK and JJ would run out of gas and JG would win. I don't like any of them and figured it would be the best scenario since JG has no shot at winning the Championship anyways.
You wouldn't want the Dodge to win?
Not a make guy. I'm a driver guy. My favorite was Rusty and he mostly drove Fords. Stewart is my guy now. :2thumbs:
i won a chance to have lunch with rusty right before he retired. was a great day. he was a really nice guy to sit and chat with. also signed several items for me. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 30, 2012, 07:46:51 PM
i dislike JG so much that i root for him to do poorly no matter how many points he has.
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yea..him and JJ also
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on September 30, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 30, 2012, 07:46:51 PM
i dislike JG so much that i root for him to do poorly no matter how many points he has.
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yea..him and JJ also
Bryan
I was looking at the best scenario for Tony. If JJ and BK ran out of gas, he would not lose as much ground to them and JG would still not have made up much ground. Otherwise, I usually hope JG and JJ have misfortune. Hell, I was even hoping Kyle would beat JJ when they were racing for the lead towards the end and I have NEVER hoped Kyle would win a race.
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 30, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
i won a chance to have lunch with rusty right before he retired. was a great day. he was a really nice guy to sit and chat with. also signed several items for me. :2thumbs:
Cool! I saw him at World of Wheels show here right near the end. Had a "Last Call" hat signed and a Miller Lite car box. My wife also bought me a nice framed "Last Call" tribute to Rusty.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 30, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: General_01 on September 30, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
I was hoping BK and JJ would run out of gas and JG would win. I don't like any of them and figured it would be the best scenario since JG has no shot at winning the Championship anyways.
You wouldn't want the Dodge to win?
yeah brad is the man :yesnod:
Quote from: 41husk on September 17, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
Good win for the no door Charger :nana:
X2 !!!
Way to go Penske Racing and Dodge...... :2thumbs:
I alway root for the no door Charger :cheers: How do they get speed and milage at the same time :shruggy: Brad has won a few gas milage races and he seems to be a very smart driver, like him or not :Twocents:
well, even as the chase is young, there arent too many players left to make a run. tony is 5th and really out of it. with the point system, making up 100 points against a guy who finishes in the top 10 every week is impossible. i just flashed through the points last night, but brad and jj are far in front of the pack. was there 1 or 2 other guys less than 100 points out? :shruggy: i needed to pay more attention. but my stand this year will be "any one but jimmy". :2thumbs:
:iagree: can't stand JJ, or just Hendrick Motors, can't stand how NASCAR caters to him. :Twocents:
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 01, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
well, even as the chase is young, there arent too many players left to make a run. tony is 5th and really out of it. with the point system, making up 100 points against a guy who finishes in the top 10 every week is impossible. i just flashed through the points last night, but brad and jj are far in front of the pack. was there 1 or 2 other guys less than 100 points out? :shruggy: i needed to pay more attention. but my stand this year will be "any one but jimmy". :2thumbs:
How do you get 100 points out? You looking at Nationwide points?
http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/data/standings.html
yea...I was wondering that also...looks like almost anyone is still in the hunt...especially since 'Dega is next weekend
Bryan
Just got to love it when the cable acts up in the middle of the race. :flame: Sometimes I wonder if the race is even worth watching. We won't discuss the bad coverage.
Well, that was a wild finish. Glad Stewart did not win. Nothing left of it. Dega bit them all again Thank Michael Waltrip and Tony Stewart for the whole thing.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 07, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
Well, that was a wild finish. Glad Stewart did not win. Nothing left of it. Dega bit them all again Thank Michael Waltrip for the whole thing.
That was one hell of a wreck.
Didn't like the way Kenseth hit Bowyer and put him on the apron right before the wreck.
say what ya want to about tony,but he did admit to causing the wreck
michael waltrip had nothing to do with it. he had momentum. had tony not dropped down, he may have won. and tony was just trying to stay out front. he made a bad decision and took the blame. kenseth was probably pissed at boyer for taking the push to the front and then dropping him once he got there. then on the restart they are side by side. oh well, thats racing.
Please note, my comments were made right after the race was over and right before all the post race bs. I had to get back to work.
Pretty bad when the drivers don't want to race there. That includes Gordon and Dale lsr.
Did you get the news, Dale Jr. out for two weeks. He had a concussion after his wreck at Dega. Regan Smith in the 88, AJ Allmindinger in the 51. Kurt Busch in the 78 for remainder of this year, and for next year.
wow, jr. is out. :scratchchin: now how do we get jimmy and jeff out???? :smilielol:
seriously, hate to see anyone injured, but,...............................................
Smileys on the #51 this week in the wake of Kurt's departure.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 11, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
Smileys on the #51 this week in the wake of Kurt's departure.
Yes, that is true. I guess they had their fill of Kurt too.
http://sports.ca.msn.com/nascar/news/phoenix-racing-all-smiles-after-kurt
good to see the "dinger" back. hope he keeps himself clean. :2thumbs:
I'm sure he'll be more careful of the stuff he takes. He's at the top of list now every week.
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 12, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
good to see the "dinger" back. hope he keeps himself clean. :2thumbs:
:iagree: :iagree:
It stinks that Brad run out of gas. Otherwise, he could have scored another one. More excitement for the fans I guess for the championship. :2thumbs: to Smith for blowing up Jr.s' car. It'll make him that much more antsy to get back in it. Too bad JJ didn't get that motor.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 01:26:40 AM
It stinks that Brad run out of gas. Otherwise, he could have scored another one. More excitement for the fans I guess for the championship. :2thumbs: to Smith for blowing up Jr.s' car. It'll make him that much more antsy to get back in it. Too bad JJ didn't get that motor.
yep that sucked for the Brad & the Blue deuce team
Kansas sure ate a bunch of cars. Glad to see the 43 was competitive for a while. But, Kenseth won again.
repaved track & rock hard tires make the cars act like driving on ice
Bryan
Goodyear should do it more often. I'm tired of seeing these guys and gal just out for a Sunday drive.
The cup series is supposed to be releasing a date eventually that they are going to be racing at Road America as well. I got that from a coworker, who's daughter works for Dale Jr. He Thought it will be on the 2013 or 2014 schedule.
And starting next year, NASCAR is doing away with that top 35 rule for qualifing. in both Sprint Cup and Nationwide.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/changes-coming-sprint-cup-nationwide-series-nascar-fan-063600103--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/changes-coming-sprint-cup-nationwide-series-nascar-fan-063600103--nascar.html)
And there is a good chance the trucks might be running the dirt track Eldora starting next year. That's Tony Steward's track.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-says-d-ecstatic-nascar-came-eldora-162831955--nascar.html;_ylt=A2KJjanYIYVQilEA1RpNbK5_ (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-says-d-ecstatic-nascar-came-eldora-162831955--nascar.html;_ylt=A2KJjanYIYVQilEA1RpNbK5_)
A Cup race at Road America would be fantastic. I think the current Nationwide race has the best attendance of any race in that series other than Daytona in Feb.
When was the last time a Dodge team one the chase or a Championship in the cup series?
Quote from: 41husk on October 22, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
When was the last time a Dodge team one the chase or a Championship in the cup series?
1975, Petty Charger.
Wow 37 years. I wonder if there will ever be another Dodge team.
Quote from: 41husk on October 22, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Wow 37 years. I wonder if there will ever be another Dodge team.
You'd have to think it'd pique the interest of some teams like say maybe Michael Andretti? You can't help but wonder since Penske is only a 2 car team & it has performed as well as it has.
A lot has to do with Brad but Sam seems to be holding his own too.
Mopar being in the sport is the only reason I've continued to watch. Going to Daytona isn't the dream it once was unfortunately.
I mean, the new car's approved & waiting. It'd be super cool if a one car team would sneak in there & compete next year. ;)
ITS ALL RIGGED,,LIKE PRO WRESTLING AND BASEBALL SERIES :brickwall: :RantExplode: :Twocents: 7,7,7,7,7 GAMES TIME AFTER TIME ................COME ON,,,,TOTALLY FIXXED,,TALKING MILLIONS OR BILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$?
THATS WHY THEY'RE HAVING BRAD AND DODGE WIN SOME THIS YEAR,DRIVE UP INTEREST IN DODGE AND A NEW TEAM AND GET FOCUS OFF TOYOTA AND THE KIA TEAM OR WAS IT IKA SOME ASSEMBLE REQUIRED..
THEY HAD TONY WRECK THE WHOLE PACK SO BRAD COULD DRIVE THRU THE GRASS LIKE SOME HERO AND MOVE UP AND GET TONS OF NEWS AND TV EXPOSURE TO PROMOTE NASCAR. SLIPPING GRIP ON MARKET AND TICKET SALES AND MEGA BILLIONS IN PROFITS....IT ALL MONEY NOT THE CARS ,LOOK LIKE GENARIC BLOOBS RUNNING ON TRACK...........................ALL BOUT THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?? :RantExplode: :brickwall:
I am not so sure it is rigged. Do they throw cautions at odd times. . yep, they sure do. In my opinion to bunch up the field. Though, they do not do it like they did say 5 to 8 years ago.
NASCAR can not pick and choose who wins. There are way to many variables out of their control.
They just play favs sometimes with the caution flag and penalties
Quote from: djcarguy on October 23, 2012, 05:31:01 AM
ITS ALL RIGGED,,LIKE PRO WRESTLING AND BASEBALL SERIES :brickwall: :RantExplode: :Twocents: 7,7,7,7,7 GAMES TIME AFTER TIME ................COME ON,,,,TOTALLY FIXXED,,TALKING MILLIONS OR BILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$?
THATS WHY THEY'RE HAVING BRAD AND DODGE WIN SOME THIS YEAR,DRIVE UP INTEREST IN DODGE AND A NEW TEAM AND GET FOCUS OFF TOYOTA AND THE KIA TEAM OR WAS IT IKA SOME ASSEMBLE REQUIRED..
THEY HAD TONY WRECK THE WHOLE PACK SO BRAD COULD DRIVE THRU THE GRASS LIKE SOME HERO AND MOVE UP AND GET TONS OF NEWS AND TV EXPOSURE TO PROMOTE NASCAR. SLIPPING GRIP ON MARKET AND TICKET SALES AND MEGA BILLIONS IN PROFITS....IT ALL MONEY NOT THE CARS ,LOOK LIKE GENARIC BLOOBS RUNNING ON TRACK...........................ALL BOUT THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?? :RantExplode: :brickwall:
oh yeah, so they HAD tony wreck the field, yeah right. put out the most popular driver with a concussion on purpose too, yeah right. oh yeah, they controlled the freaking rain at homestead last year too so that Tony could win the championship, oh yeah it was their choice that JJ won 5 in a row too. If it was rigged as you say, then Mark Martin would have won the title a few years ago when he was real close.
:slap:
Quote from: djcarguy on October 23, 2012, 05:31:01 AM
ITS ALL RIGGED,,LIKE PRO WRESTLING AND BASEBALL SERIES :brickwall: :RantExplode: :Twocents: 7,7,7,7,7 GAMES TIME AFTER TIME ................COME ON,,,,TOTALLY FIXXED,,TALKING MILLIONS OR BILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$?
THATS WHY THEY'RE HAVING BRAD AND DODGE WIN SOME THIS YEAR,DRIVE UP INTEREST IN DODGE AND A NEW TEAM AND GET FOCUS OFF TOYOTA AND THE KIA TEAM OR WAS IT IKA SOME ASSEMBLE REQUIRED..
THEY HAD TONY WRECK THE WHOLE PACK SO BRAD COULD DRIVE THRU THE GRASS LIKE SOME HERO AND MOVE UP AND GET TONS OF NEWS AND TV EXPOSURE TO PROMOTE NASCAR. SLIPPING GRIP ON MARKET AND TICKET SALES AND MEGA BILLIONS IN PROFITS....IT ALL MONEY NOT THE CARS ,LOOK LIKE GENARIC BLOOBS RUNNING ON TRACK...........................ALL BOUT THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?? :RantExplode: :brickwall:
let's here another story
Dale Lsr. is cleared to drive at Martinsville, but Allmendinger is still in the 51. :2thumbs: Glad to hear he's getting a second chance in Cup. :2thumbs:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 23, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Dale Lsr. is cleared to drive at Martinsville, but Allmendinger is still in the 51. :2thumbs: Glad to hear he's getting a second chance in Cup. :2thumbs:
holy crap batman, they are bringing back dale sr.???? i cant wait to see that trick. :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 24, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 23, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Dale Lsr. is cleared to drive at Martinsville, but Allmendinger is still in the 51. :2thumbs: Glad to hear he's getting a second chance in Cup. :2thumbs:
holy crap batman, they are bringing back dale sr.???? i cant wait to see that trick. :smilielol: :smilielol:
I wasa thinking the same thing Jim. Dale Sr would probably lower the weight after all these years. Are they going to hold the race until holloween? :smilielol:
Quote from: 41husk on October 24, 2012, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 24, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 23, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Dale Lsr. is cleared to drive at Martinsville, but Allmendinger is still in the 51. :2thumbs: Glad to hear he's getting a second chance in Cup. :2thumbs:
holy crap batman, they are bringing back dale sr.???? i cant wait to see that trick. :smilielol: :smilielol:
I wasa thinking the same thing Jim. Dale Sr would probably lower the weight after all these years. Are they going to hold the race until holloween? :smilielol:
yup just in time for Halloween
Side note Dale Jr.= Dale Lsr. I'm not much for Jr because he's overrated. Stewart and JJ fall in this group as well. It's bad enough that I almost route for Gordon when he does good. Almost
oh, dale loser. ok i see now. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
i cant believe you almost root for the whining baby gordon. i root for no one in the cheater, cry baby,and whiner camp. (sorry kasey) :yesnod:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 24, 2012, 02:20:12 PM
Side note Dale Jr.= Dale Lsr. I'm not much for Jr because he's overrated. Stewart and JJ fall in this group as well. It's bad enough that I almost route for Gordon when he does good. Almost
I have to take issue with this. Jimmie Johnson and Tony Stewart overrated?
Stewart:
1994 USAC National Midget Series Champion
1995 USAC Triple Crown Champion
1997 Indy Racing League Champion
3 Time NASCAR Cup Series Champion
Jimmie:
5 Time NASCAR Cup Series Champion
Yea, your right, overrated. I would guess you ask any team owner to pick one driver they can have. Just a guess, but I would bet every single one would say Jimmie. I am guessing Tony would be in the top three or four. Have they had good teams, cars, engine builders. . sure have. But these things do not drive themselves either. Jimmie will go down as one of the greatest drivers ever. As a side note, I am a huge Ryan Newman fan, so I am not sticking up for my guy. I just believe these two deserve a lot more respect for what they have accomplished. Just my opinion.
My views are more tv ratings than anything. The darn broadcasters would rather watch these 3 guys plus one or two more go around the track 500 miles than show an actual race. You turn the race on, which one is on tv? Doesn't matter if they are up front or 35th with the fenders falling off. The only way other racers get mentioned is if they wreck, or finish 1st. If Almirola wasn't running 1st last weekend, would he ever got mentioned until he wrecked? Probably not. That's what I mean about drivers being overrated.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 24, 2012, 03:11:07 PM
My views are more tv ratings than anything. The darn broadcasters would rather watch these 3 guys plus one or two more go around the track 500 miles than show an actual race. You turn the race on, which one is on tv? Doesn't matter if they are up front or 35th with the fenders falling off. The only way other racers get mentioned is if they wreck, or finish 1st. If Almirola wasn't running 1st last weekend, would he ever got mentioned until he wrecked? Probably not. That's what I mean about drivers being overrated.
Gotcha. ;)
im a newman fan also, but have to say that tony is one of the nicest racers you will meet. and has made some saves on the track that amaze me.
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 24, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
im a newman fan also, but have to say that tony is one of the nicest racers you will meet. and has made some saves on the track that amaze me.
I have never had the chance to meet Stewart. I have met Ryan and his wife several times and they have both always been very nice. When Ryan drove for PRS, I showed him a picture of my Charger off my phone and told him "this is a real Charger", he laughed. I have several signed Ryan diecast cars, he signed the back of my leather jacket, and I have a couple full quarters off a wrecked Alltel car he signed for me also. He does not make the public appearances like he used to when he drove for PRS.
nice collection of ryan stuff. i got several items of tony signed and a couple ryan autographs when he flew into tony's track for some dirt racing. i have a 12" tony figure in the box that tony signed. when he saw it he started laughing and said " im not that skinny any more". :lol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 22, 2012, 05:44:16 AM
The cup series is supposed to be releasing a date eventually that they are going to be racing at Road America as well. I got that from a coworker, who's daughter works for Dale Jr. He Thought it will be on the 2013 or 2014 schedule.
And starting next year, NASCAR is doing away with that top 35 rule for qualifing. in both Sprint Cup and Nationwide.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/changes-coming-sprint-cup-nationwide-series-nascar-fan-063600103--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/changes-coming-sprint-cup-nationwide-series-nascar-fan-063600103--nascar.html)
And there is a good chance the trucks might be running the dirt track Eldora starting next year. That's Tony Steward's track.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-says-d-ecstatic-nascar-came-eldora-162831955--nascar.html;_ylt=A2KJjanYIYVQilEA1RpNbK5_ (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-says-d-ecstatic-nascar-came-eldora-162831955--nascar.html;_ylt=A2KJjanYIYVQilEA1RpNbK5_)
:2thumbs: I like both those ideas... :cheers:
could someone post ,,,day an time of races before the last few of year happen?? thanks tried to find on nascar sites ,no luck. my puter box and dail up need replaced.. thanks guys...dj out west :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Quote from: djcarguy on October 27, 2012, 02:57:12 AM
could someone post ,,,day an time of races before the last few of year happen?? thanks tried to find on nascar sites ,no luck. my puter box and dail up need replaced.. thanks guys...dj out west :2thumbs: :popcrn:
10/28 Martinsville 1 pm est ESPN
11/4 Texas 2 pm est ESPN
11/11 Phoenix 2 pm est ESPN
11/18 Homestead 2 pm est ESPN
Quote from: Aero426 on October 22, 2012, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: 41husk on October 22, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
When was the last time a Dodge team one the chase or a Championship in the cup series?
1975, Petty Charger.
There are 2 Championships at stake: Driver and Manufacturer. Brad can win one for himself, but not one for Dodge. In 1975 Petty won one for himself AND Dodge also was the top point getter for manufacturers, with the help of points accrued by the K&K Dodge, driven by Dave Marcis. He got a few wins, too! :cheers:
Not checking the points lately, but I'd think Chevy will win another manufacturer trophy, due to the fact they have many teams running in the top 6 for any given event.
thanks for times,,thanks stroker 400. next yr no more kid support----will get new tv,computer and cable and high speed conections...... thanks enjoy the last few races all . was mostly jokeing with earlyer post of KIA OR IKA AND it all bee rigged ,,,,,,,,,was joking late at night with that story ,,,of it all bee rigged,,,just some of it hahahahaha????/ have a goooode dayy.later dj :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :slap:
Didn't watch too much of the race, didn't like who led most of the race, but, hats off to BK for making a good call on the last caution and getting a 6th place finish. :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Maybe, he'll get the point lead back at Texas. Better yet, with a win :icon_smile_wink: :2thumbs:
That was a terrible call and he was lucky to get past Gordon to finish 6th, Had he gone in with the leaders, he would have finished no worse than 6th on fresh tires, He had the lead with 17 laps left but there was no way he was going to hold off the guys who got fresh tires, and he didn't. Had he got fresh tires he would have had a good chance to move up into the top 5. He did get a bonus point for leading a lap and that may end up being huge. He ealy needs to start qualifying better. His starting positions have been a problem!
Quote from: chargerboy69 on October 25, 2012, 06:56:45 AM
When Ryan drove for PRS, I showed him a picture of my Charger off my phone and told him "this is a real Charger", he laughed.
I'd have laughed too. :eek2:
Chevy Clinches NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Manufacturers' Championship: #48-Jimmie Johnson's victory in the TUMS Fast Relief 500 at Martinsville Speedway clinched the 2012 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Manufacturers' Championship for Chevrolet. It is the 10th consecutive year, and the 36th time overall that the Bowtie Brand has captured the prestigious title in NASCAR's top series. In the 33 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races run to-date in 2012, Chevy drivers have captured 12 victories. Chevy won its first Manufacturers' Cup in 1958, and now with the 2012 Cup secured, Chevy has reached an unprecedented 36th title.(Chevy PR) See more info and complete standings on the Manufacturers Championship page.(10-29-2012)
GO BRAD - the last hope..... :coolgleamA:
Most people would be happy with 2nd or third in a late chase race, but not win the 1,and2 guys in points finish one and two in the race :brickwall: I was find myself pulling for JJ to fail more than for Brad to win :D
Quote from: 41husk on November 05, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
Most people would be happy with 2nd or third in a late chase race, but not win the 1,and2 guys in points finish one and two in the race :brickwall: I was find myself pulling for JJ to fail more than for Brad to win :D
the fix is in JJ has it wrapped up
I hope you are wrong buddy!
It isn't over till the last checkered flag falls. Brad still has plenty of time. Go team Penske :2thumbs:
someone needs to step up and wreck johnson and end this (&*^&%&$). ok im better now. go brad. and the late caution finished brad where without it he had the win. :rotz:
You can't wreck JJ without there being a conspiracy. He has to do that on his own. Unless you can get Montoya to wreck someone in front of him :D
I would think that getting Montoya to wreck Jimmie Johnson shouldn't be that difficult, as he's hit about everything there is to hit on the track. And, he'll even take out the track sweeper if you need him to........................ :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: wingcar on November 05, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I would think that getting Montoya to wreck Jimmie Johnson shouldn't be that difficult, as he's hit about everything there is to hit on the track. And, he'll even take out the track sweeper if you need him to........................ :icon_smile_big:
I still cant understand what he has against those poor defenseless jet dryers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: moparstuart on November 05, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: wingcar on November 05, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I would think that getting Montoya to wreck Jimmie Johnson shouldn't be that difficult, as he's hit about everything there is to hit on the track. And, he'll even take out the track sweeper if you need him to........................ :icon_smile_big:
I still cant understand what he has against those poor defenseless jet dryers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I can understand why Harvick doesn't like parajumpers :smilielol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 05, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 05, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: wingcar on November 05, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I would think that getting Montoya to wreck Jimmie Johnson shouldn't be that difficult, as he's hit about everything there is to hit on the track. And, he'll even take out the track sweeper if you need him to........................ :icon_smile_big:
I still cant understand what he has against those poor defenseless jet dryers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I can understand why Harvick doesn't like parajumpers :smilielol:
Maybe Penske should hire a group of parajumpers to land ON Jimmie Johnson's car a few minutes before the next race....of course it would be an accident
:scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
Quote from: wingcar on November 05, 2012, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 05, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 05, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: wingcar on November 05, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I would think that getting Montoya to wreck Jimmie Johnson shouldn't be that difficult, as he's hit about everything there is to hit on the track. And, he'll even take out the track sweeper if you need him to........................ :icon_smile_big:
I still cant understand what he has against those poor defenseless jet dryers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I can understand why Harvick doesn't like parajumpers :smilielol:
Maybe Penske should hire a group of parajumpers to land ON Jimmie Johnson's car a few minutes before the next race....of course it would be an accident
then they would just goto the garage and sneek in a whole different car
Where did JJ hide the nitrous? :shruggy:
The last two laps he p u l l e d Brad by almost a second.
I dont think NA$CAR will let Dodge win in its last year :nana:
THINK ABOUT IT
Did anyone see any thing on the track from the 5 car before the caution waved?
Oh and the 24 hit the 5 :flame: :flame: :flame:
i wasnt gona get too into calling cheats and saying nascar is picking its winner, but since you brought it up, im really thinking im done with em all. :rotz:
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 05, 2012, 09:24:53 PM
i wasnt gona get too into calling cheats and saying nascar is picking its winner, but since you brought it up, im really thinking im done with em all. :rotz:
you will have just that more time to watch and follow the chiefs :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 05, 2012, 09:24:53 PM
i wasnt gona get too into calling cheats and saying nascar is picking its winner, but since you brought it up, im really thinking im done with em all. :rotz:
HANG IN ,,THE FIX IS IN AN ,,A HIT CONTACT IS SET FOR NEXT RACE....JJ WILL NOT .....................................THEIR HERE TO STOP THE FREE PRESS,,,,,SAVE YOUR SELF
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Montoya's pit conversation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIe1KtfpDzw
Quote from: moparstuart on November 05, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 05, 2012, 09:24:53 PM
i wasnt gona get too into calling cheats and saying nascar is picking its winner, but since you brought it up, im really thinking im done with em all. :rotz:
you will have just that more time to watch and follow the chiefs :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:
thats true, i will really be able to invest some time into studying the ins and outs of this years chiefs team.......
...
.....................................................ok, thats about enough time studying a lost cause. i even dumped charles from my fantasy team. but, as a die hard chiefs fan, i will still watch. :rotz:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 05, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
I dont think NA$CAR will let Dodge win in its last year :nana:
THINK ABOUT IT
Did anyone see any thing on the track from the 5 car before the caution waved?
Oh and the 24 hit the 5 :flame: :flame: :flame:
I do hope I am wrong and the 2 picks up 5 points on the 48.
The 48 hasn't had to really race the last race of the year so Brad may have a chance if he can keep it close.
Maybe JJ through out a water bottle :D
Just heard on tv, that Kevin Harveck is replacing Newman in 2014. And it has been confirmed.
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 09, 2012, 06:11:56 PM
Just heard on tv, that Kevin Harveck is replacing Newman in 2014. And it has been confirmed.
Harvick is going to SHR, but as a fourth car. Tony and Ryan are best of friends. Ryan will not leave unless sponsorship would not be found for him.
I can see Harvick being cut early and possibly being at SHR by Daytona.
Tony Stewart: "Well, it's actually Dale, Jr. (SMILES BROADLY). And Marty Smith (ESPN Television personality and website reporter) is actually going to be in the fourth car. Yes, that's where we are at. (SMILES BROADLY) I will tell you this, when we have something to tell you guys, we'll tell you. I've always said that. You guys can throw darts, but when we have something to tell you that's different than what we've got going on, we'll obviously tell you."(Team Chevy)(11-9-2012)
got scared for a minute. and yes tony and ryan are very good friends. hope things work out.
Richard Childress seems to be fading. Who's he gonna sign to replace his feature driver Harvick, Lagano?
Too bad for Childress, I've always liked him.
Harvick driving for Stewart? Good gravy, Stewart will have all kinds of time to grab Harvick's old lady's ass.
Lagano is headed to Penske unfortunately. I would have thought Penske could have done better though. Harvick leaving is news to me. I'll have to look more into it.
The last two will be interestering.
I hope Brad pulls it off.
RT Mike, Congrats on kicking My a$$ in fantasy NASCAR
I had fun playing.
Mabey next year some more DC Members will join in the fun.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 10, 2012, 02:04:15 AM
The last two will be interestering.
I hope Brad pulls it off.
RT Mike, Congrats on kicking My a$$ in fantasy NASCAR
I had fun playing.
Mabey next year some more DC Members will join in the fun.
Na, they're too scared I'll lay the smack down on them. ;)
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 09, 2012, 10:56:47 PM
Richard Childress seems to be fading. Who's he gonna sign to replace his feature driver Harvick, Lagano?
Too bad for Childress, I've always liked him.
Harvick driving for Stewart? Good gravy, Stewart will have all kinds of time to grab Harvick's old lady's ass.
Move his grandson up a year early or do a 1 year deal with AJ he just missed Vickers, Sadler LOL Rudamen perhaps.
I may learn to like Harvick after all.
Good news, JJ put it in the wall and is off the track and BK is running up front. :2thumbs: Hope it stays that way.
Boy Gordon was stupid. I can't believe he wrecked that many cars. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
We have a fight. Gordon is in it :boxing_smiley: Bowyer going after Gordon
awesome stuff love it i wish boyer would have gotten ahold of him
What will the penalties be :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
The one guy that should be pissed should be Lagano. He was just racing Brad for a solid finish
That was a bad wreck at the end
danica is a menic
gordon is such a baby. wish boyer would have gotten him. some one should take jimmy out of the championship race same as boyer was. eye for eye
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 11, 2012, 06:42:56 PM
gordon is such a baby. wish boyer would have gotten him. some one should take jimmy out of the championship race same as boyer was. eye for eye
i would love to see boyer do it
This is going to be a interesting race next weekend for sure :yesnod:
danica got hit by burton,she had a great run!------------NASCAR SHOULD HAVE WAVED THE CAUTION,THAT WAS REAL STUPID THEY DID NOT
right. water or oil all over the track in turn 4 where the entire field is coming hard. ice skates.
Watched the first 70 laps or so, then went running errands with the family. Looks like I missed a good one. I found the clips on Youtube, kinda cool to see everyone go at it. Would have been funny to see Clint get a hold of Jeff, but he just hid in his hauler.
. WOW
:flame: NA$CAR got stuped at the end of that one...
But go Brad go 20 points isn't a lock but it sure looks good if no one stuffs him into the wall.
MOPAR did it in pro stock if dodge can win the cup tittle in there last year maybe the Mayans were right; the world is ending in December.
When is that cup banquet scheduled for....
Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! :cheers:
mopar won pro stock, funny car, and top fuel. :2thumbs:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 11, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! :cheers:
A champion winning in a dodge is a win for DODGE and us DODGE FANS weather nascar says it was or not
I had to miss the end of the race, so I watched the reruns on Speed. Jeff is such a poor liar. "Bowyer has been getting into him all year" and he decides to take him out after the 48 has a bad day. I hope everyone remembers that JG is part owner of the 48 car. He was keeping it a two car Chase by taking Bowyer out. All I have to say is that NASCAR sat Kyle last year for messing with the integrity of the championship in the truck series. They better do the same to Jeff. I understand what Jeff was feeling, but you don't intentionally take somebody out of a shot at the title to pay them back. Classless, but why should I be surprised. JG has always been that way. He will probably get a nice bonus from Hendrick for doing it.
No doubt that Gordon will be parked. First time the 24 did not enter a race or had a different driver? Bowyer was just running a good race. :2thumbs: for Bowyer. Hard racing is what I like to see. Gordon needs to suck on one of his kids' bottles. Whatever, it made Phoenix an interesting race to watch. Glad to see Harvick win one this year. Rowdy done real well too. :2thumbs: JJ and phony done their part as well :2thumbs: Actually, Tony didn't get too much coverage. I'm surprised.
Brad mentioned that he got badmouthed for running JJ hard last week? That's stupid. That's what I watch for. I thought that is what racing is about; good drivers with an incredible talent driving the wheels off the cars and getting the best finish you can get. As far as I'm concerned, that was what Bowyer was doing with Jeff this year. Bowyer made a banzai move at Martinsville trying to get a win, it didn't fair too well. Bowyer was again running Jeff hard today, Jeff just got stupid. Either way, those two made for an exciting finish for an otherwise dull race. :2thumbs: Wait till Tuesday for the penalties, and next Sunday for the final race of the season.
I was there and it was the best Phoenix race I have been at. Watching the cars drop to the apron in the back stretch and then shoot back up the track is pretty impressive. Surprised they didn't have wrecks back there. Got to see most of the fight unfold on the Jumbotron and the fans were going crazy. Great finish, but Nascar should have thrown the caution and saved several cars from being destroyed. I dont think Gordon will be parked, He will probably get a fine and a slap on the hand. Way to much Sponsor money behind him.
Sponsor money didn't matter for bush. If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed :Twocents:
the cry baby gordon will not get much because nascar will do the same thing they always do. but boyer will be warned to stay away from jimmy or pay the consequences. jeff sure ran for protection after the wreck. then had to have guards protect him while leaving the trailer. :flame:
Watching Speed Center, they said there won't be too many penalties. We'll have to wait and see :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: 41husk on November 12, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Sponsor money didn't matter for bush. If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed :Twocents:
Not that it makes much difference but Busch took out Hornaday under a caution putting him head on into the wall. Very lucky that Hornaday wasn't hurt. I also believe that M&M pulled there sponsorship for a few races due to Kyles actions. Probably gonna be a lot of people upset because not much will happen to the Dupont 24 or Jeff.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/11/11/2553806/kyle-busch-mms-mars-sponsor-phoenix-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-2011
gordon was black flagged and refused to leave the track until he did the deed.
now for my next topic, the guys that are crying and complaining that some drivers are racing too hard. really? arent you out there to win? should you just be happy to finish second so as not to be considered trying too hard? what about when gordon had a long dry spell and said he would wreck his own mom to get into the winners circle? well, if the guys that want to win are trying too hard, mabey all the guys complaining should go find a new line of work and leave racing to the guys that arent happy just finishing a race.
when logano cried cuz newman was racing too hard i was floored. now it seems to be growing through more drivers.
I will be very happy with a top 15 for Brad and the Blue duece Dodge :cheers:
yes. a top 15 will do it. :2thumbs: that kid is going to be sooooo nervous in that race. :smilielol:
Oh heck, is everyone expecting JJ to win the race? I hope not. Brad has this one in the bag unless he beats himself or Gordon and Bowyer get into it again in front of him.
BEFORE THE RACE NASCAR DID A HOLE BIT,SHOWED all past fights and helmet tossing and bumps and bangs,,,and have at IT boys??
told ya was a hit on jj befor the race was over, jj knEw and just hit wall little harder than planned but got fixed and back out to keep interest going for last race,,,,ever,,,,,,,,,,it all ends -----12------2012,hahaha???????
bower said he did not even need to pass jeff ,,,but kept bumping and rubbing into gordon??
BOWER CAUSED THAT WRECK WITH GORDON ,,,DIVING TO INSIDE AS GORDON WAS DROPPING DOWN TO GET OUT THE THE RACE GROOVE?????????????????????????????
ANYWAY DID GET INTERESTING NEAR THE END THERE, AND WATCHED FEW HOUR OF ALL THE REPLAYS AND BULL LIES AFTER WHOS DID WHAT AND BOO HOO ......................WAS A EXCITING FINISH,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1 , 1 , 1 MORE?
Quote from: 68coronetGLwannabe on November 12, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: 41husk on November 12, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Sponsor money didn't matter for bush. If I were M+M Mars and Geoff got a pass, I would be pissed :Twocents:
Not that it makes much difference but Busch took out Hornaday under a caution putting him head on into the wall. Very lucky that Hornaday wasn't hurt. I also believe that M&M pulled there sponsorship for a few races due to Kyles actions. Probably gonna be a lot of people upset because not much will happen to the Dupont 24 or Jeff.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2011/11/11/2553806/kyle-busch-mms-mars-sponsor-phoenix-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-2011
:yesnod: :yesnod: THAT I AGREE THE WAY I RECALL IT TOO,,UNDER CAUTION AND FORCED HIM INTO THE WALL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SPONCER DROPPED BUSH :yesnod: :yesnod:
Gordon was not getting out of the way. If he was, he would have pitted after he hit the wall. He had only one thing on his mind at the time.
I “thought” Jeff Gordon was suppose to be a champion, and a four champion at that….you wouldn’t know it by his actions at the Phoenix race. What he did was pure stupid with a capital “S”. NASCAR should park him, but they won’t as he’s too big a star.
When NASCAR told the drivers “boy’s have at it”, I really don’t think they met “Boy’s, do stupid things that could kill someone”. If you watch the contact between Clint Bowyer and Jeff Gordon, the first time was “racing”, the second was Gordon trying to turn Bowyer and it was this move by Gordon that put Gordon into the wall. I guess he didn’t learn from Danica, that sometimes it’s best not to try and get even….as you can take yourself out, which he did.
And, what was with NASCAR not throwing the yellow when "Golden Girl" wrecked on the front straight? Yes, the Phoenix race will go down as 2012’s race with the most drama. (and perhaps the best race of the year)
Quote from: moparstuart on November 11, 2012, 10:57:55 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on November 11, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Chevy won the Manufacturers title a few weeks ago.
But Brad can win one for himself and Roger! :cheers:
A champion winning in a dodge is a win for DODGE and us DODGE FANS weather nascar says it was or not
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
the highlight reel just got better for next year thanks to Boyer and Gordon no matter who was at fault.
Gordon wont get parked because he dos not have a past history for being stupid like Kyle Bush has leading up to the truck wreak.
Boyer's crew guy that started the fight may miss next week and I think one of Jeff's guys got pounded pretty good from what I could tell.
I would like to fine Na$car for not throwing the caution at the end when the 10 car crashed, Now that was unsafe :flame:
Just found out on the Hub, Gordon fined $100,000 and a loss of 25 driver/ owner points. Crew chief fined as well. Probation for everybody for rest of the year.
No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html
NASCAR Issues Penalties From Sunday's Event at Phoenix: NASCAR announced penalties to three teams that compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, as a result of rule infractions at Phoenix International Raceway.
Jeff Gordon, driver of the #24 car, was found to be in violation of Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) altercation with another competitor on the race track during the race and has been fined $100,000, docked 25 championship driver points and put on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. Rick Hendrick, owner of the #24 car, has also been penalized with the loss of 25 championship owner points. Alan Gustafson, crew chief of the #24 car, also was found to be in violation of Section 9-4A (at all events, crew chief assumes responsibility of his driver, car owner and team members) and has been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.
Brian Pattie, crew chief of the #15 car, violated Sections 12-1 and 9-4A and has been fined $25,000 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.
Brad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete) driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car. All of these violations occurred during the Nov. 11 event at PIR.
Pretty crazy... I thought Nascar approved of Brads phone tweeting
Brad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete) driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car.
Damn, Brad penalized for tweeting. That's nuts. Just a driver pleasing the fans.
t least it wasn't points for Brad that would suck
QuoteBrad Keselowski, driver of the #2 car, has been fined $25,000 and placed on probation until Dec. 31 for violating Sections 12-1 and 20-6.7A (cars and drivers will not be permitted to carry onboard computers, automated electronic recording devices, electronically actuated devices, power distribution modules, power conditioners, micro-processors, recording devices, electronic digital memory chips, traction control devices, digital readout gauges and the like, even if inoperable or incomplete) driver had a cell phone in his possession onboard the race car. All of these violations occurred during the Nov. 11 event at PIR.
QuoteThat is really retarded.
Im guessing Brads fine was more for Negative NASCAR post race comments than cell phone use during red flag time :Twocents:
Well, at least they didnt dock points from Brad too, and basically gave Johnson the championship. :P
Quote from: 41husk on November 12, 2012, 07:38:38 PM
Im guessing Brads fine was more for Negative NASCAR post race comments than cell phone use during red flag time :Twocents:
yes - he was too honest for them to take it lightly... :Twocents: :Twocents: :Twocents: :Twocents: How many add up to $25K ?? :shruggy: :smilielol:
Next Sundays race...
Quote from: General_01 on November 12, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html
I feel that is a fair fine. $100,000 even to Jeff is a chunk of change.
Sitting him would cost more than that :Twocents: ESPN even talked about Brad tweeting and showed video of it with all the other drivers standing around laughing after the track dryer wreck when they were red flagged. But now it is a problem :scratchchin:
Brad had better watch out for Jeff and steer clear......with all the bad blood between him and Clint Bowyer from Phoenix Brad could be caught up in something on the track not of his doing.....
NASCAR should have parked Jeff for what he did, although I knew they wouldn't....the fines are a joke...And placed on probation until the end of the year....hello NASCAR, next week's race is the last for the year......does this mean if Jeff takes out Clint on the freeway, he'll be in trouble with NASCAR?
It appears to me that Jeff just can't stand not being driver number one for his team any longer now that Jimmie is winning everything. It's been a bad year for Jeff as he can't seem to get a break. What you are seeing is a meltdown of a champion from being very frustrated.....Having said that...there is no excuse for what he did......none!
Jeff has been at it for 20 years now. He's almost to the end of his career. I can understand that he wants to end it on high note. But, with JJ, he created his own monster. I wouldn't be surprised if Jeff hangs up the helmet in the next 5-10 years.
That'll let Trevor Bayne take over the 24. He'd do a real good job.
I know Brad only needs a top 15 to clintch but should drive to win. Thats what got him to this point :Twocents:
Quote from: 41husk on November 13, 2012, 01:02:48 PM
I know Brad only needs a top 15 to clintch but should drive to win. Thats what got him to this point :Twocents:
It's actully easier than that, he just needs to be no more than 10 to 12 spots behind the 48 at the end of the day the 15 place is if the 48 gets max points on the day So if the 48 pits so does the 2 if the 48 runs mid pack the 2 can coast to the championship. Most years that's how it goes down lst year was the exception to the rule.
I'm still in shock that NASCAR may let Dodge win the cup tittle and not be around next year....
Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14. If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 13, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14. If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.
But who?
unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs???
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 13, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 13, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14. If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.
But who?
unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs???
You never know. In the late 60s you would be surprised how many engines were built by Chrysler Engineering for all the Nascar teams!
Brad's no dummy. If you notice when Bowyer got clipped Brad had backed way off & didn't want to be close to the 2 dummies.
I imagine @ Homestead his crew chief & spotter will be letting him know where the two of them are at all times.
If you've noticed, Jeff has had a chip on his shoulder ever since Hendrick changed around all the crews & crew chiefs except for the #48. It really had to chap his ass that Jr. got his old crew. Hendrick is really going out of his way to get Jr. a championship & I don't think that's sitting too well.
I think it started when Chad fired his crew and requested the 24 crew that one race. ( I forget which one, it happened a few years ago.) That was because JJ was in the hunt for a championship and his own crew flubbed up a couple times. I don't think Jeff had any say in that what so ever.
But, yeah, Jeff has been cheated on there at Hendrick. Hendrick is favoring JJ and Lsr. I just hope that Kayne doesn't get cheated like Jeff. When Kayne starts having some good luck, he'll be more competitive. Right now, he's just posting top 10's. I'm ready for Jeff to really get the old flame going again to be running up front and not letting JJ just slide by.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 14, 2012, 12:51:12 AM
Brad's no dummy. If you notice when Bowyer got clipped Brad had backed way off & didn't want to be close to the 2 dummies.
I imagine @ Homestead his crew chief & spotter will be letting him know where the two of them are at all times.
If you've noticed, Jeff has had a chip on his shoulder ever since Hendrick changed around all the crews & crew chiefs except for the #48. It really had to chap his ass that Jr. got his old crew. Hendrick is really going out of his way to get Jr. a championship & I don't think that's sitting too well.
:iagree:
Well we will all know soon :cheers: Sunday is just around the corner. I think ESPN coverage has the race starting at 2pm but they usually have some pre race at the scheduled start time. Anyone know when the flag drops?
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 12, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: General_01 on November 12, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
No suspension for Gordon. $100K fine and docked 25 points.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121112/nascar-penalizes-jgordon-cbowyer-bkeselowski/index.html
I feel that is a fair fine. $100,000 even to Jeff is a chunk of change.
really? celebrity networth says he is worth 150,000,000 which seems low to me, but even if that is all he is worth, i doubt 100,000 really is gonna hurt, they also say he makes 22mil a year
most of them are making 150-200 thou a race. im assuming that is without bonus for certain finishing spots. :shruggy:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 13, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 13, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Dodge may not be back next year, but I expect them back for 14. If they can get a championship for Penske, they sure as heck can get a championship with another team.
But who?
unless Dodge starts building the motors no top team is available to switch. maybe Gibbs???
Rumor is Andretti.
Not to burst any bubbles, but I think Andretti will be wanting his old number back. I doubt that Stewart will go to Dodge
GO BRAD!
Dodge did announce that they are pulling out of all Nascar for all of next year way back, like 3 months ago already.
I think they are talking about 2014 :shruggy:
If they were, I missed it. Dodge does want to return in '14.
Read my post. # 1440
Qualifying tonight. I would feel much better if he started close or ahead of JJ :cheers:
what time is qualifying? make sure the woman sets the dvr. :D
I think 6pm on speed :shruggy:
the only thing about the 2 winning the championship is that somehow Rusty is gonna horn in on it, and i never cared anything for him, ESPECIALLY after he got into broadcasting. listening to him defend every piece of crap driving his son did on tv made me want to throw up
Rusty was better behind the wheel.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 16, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Rusty was better behind the wheel.
But, not good enough to get Penske a Championship........ :icon_smile_wink:
Quote from: wingcar on November 16, 2012, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 16, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Rusty was better behind the wheel.
But, not good enough to get Penske a Championship........ :icon_smile_wink:
He didn't have a Dodge then either until late in his career
JAMES BUESCHER WON THE TRUCK CHAMPIONSHIP :2thumbs:
Brad qualified and will start in front of JJ :cheers: :cheers:
He's off to a good start. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs:
That should get him a good pit stall. I do hope he 48's mind games don't get to him.
Thats the only chance the 48 has now unless some one takes the 2 out.
Go dodge
Hamlin, I believed something to the effect " should I take out Brad this week for all the times he wrecked me" Lots of haters out there. Hopefully with NASCAR putting so many drivers on double secret prohbation, everyone will run a clean race this week :smilielol:
Quote from: 41husk on November 17, 2012, 07:34:41 AM
Hamlin, I believed something to the effect " should I take out Brad this week for all the times he wrecked me" Lots of haters out there. Hopefully with NASCAR putting so many drivers on double secret prohbation, everyone will run a clean race this week :smilielol:
hamlin is a moron
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 17, 2012, 06:02:57 AM
That should get him a good pit stall. I do hope he 48's mind games don't get to him.
Thats the only chance the 48 has now unless some one takes the 2 out.
Go dodge
I agree, like JJ doing a Jeff Gorden on the #2 car...
looks like the 20 crashed so now the 2 car moves up to the #1 pole spot for the start of the race.
:2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
I really hope Brad wins it.
Mabey Dodge won't consider pulling out anymore.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 17, 2012, 06:20:54 PM
I really hope Brad wins it.
Mabey Dodge won't consider pulling out anymore.
I thought Fiat was on birth (auto) control.
It's not dodge's choice, they didnt quit nascar, penske quit them, and nobody else wants their "help"
Ambrose, Almirola re-sign with RPM for 2013
http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/rpetty-resigns-mambrose-aalmirola/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/rpetty-resigns-mambrose-aalmirola/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
New look ready for 2013 Sprint Cup car
Sixth generation car to feature driver's last name on the windshield This gives all the rules for the car.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Go Brad & Dodge/Penske, please no more :hah: JJ chapionships for a while...
Quote from: 41husk on November 16, 2012, 11:50:04 PM
Brad qualified and will start in front of JJ :cheers: :cheers:
:2thumbs: Lets hope he stays there too.... :cheers:
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 17, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 17, 2012, 06:02:57 AM
That should get him a good pit stall. I do hope he 48's mind games don't get to him.
Thats the only chance the 48 has now unless some one takes the 2 out.
Go dodge
I agree, like JJ doing a Jeff Gorden on the #2 car...
:shruggy: Yep or some other Hendrick team car taking one for the team... :Twocents:
Quote from: 41husk on November 17, 2012, 07:34:41 AM
Hamlin, I believed something to the effect " should I take out Brad this week for all the times he wrecked me" Lots of haters out there. Hopefully with NASCAR putting so many drivers on double secret prohbation, everyone will run a clean race this week :smilielol:
:2thumbs: now that's funny there...
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 18, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
A
New look ready for 2013 Sprint Cup car
Sixth generation car to feature driver's last name on the windshield This gives all the rules for the car.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Oh boy!! The name on the windshield like IROC racing!! :smilielol:
A driver's driving style, car number, and some proper tv time is enough to identify a driver and a team. We don't need the names on the windshield.
IF Brad wins the championship he should buy that crew member on the 48 who messed up a few beers! I swear if 48 wins again I'm done with Nascar.
JJ IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs: :lol:
Well look like my foot is in my mouth...lol. Something broke on the 48 and it looks like it's Brad's to lose.
He ain't winning now, One missed lugnut cost Him his chance.
Go Brad
Johnson BLOWS...... a rear gear.....Brad Wins! :drive:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :punkrocka: :thumbs:
ALL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BK NASCAR SPRINT CUP CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While not a fan of BK, it's better than JJ or any Hendrick team member getting another championship
I might have to watch the award ceremony now, have not watched it for the last 5 years
Bryan
My FIRST award ceremony. :2thumbs:
and boyer gets second. :2thumbs:
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
DODGE WINS !!!!!!!!!!!
I am amazed :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 18, 2012, 06:24:38 PM
While not a fan of BK, it's better than JJ or any Hendrick team member getting another championship
I might have to watch the award ceremony now, have not watched it for the last 5 years
Bryan
:iagree:
It was Dodge's first Cup championship since Richard Petty won in 1975.Dodge hasn't ruled out returning to NASCAR, possibly in the second-tier Nationwide Series or maybe even in the Cup Series.
But if Dodge does decide to rejoin NASCAR, Gilles said it would have to be a situation similar to what the company had with Penske.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dodge-says-goodbye-nascar-least-213336405--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dodge-says-goodbye-nascar-least-213336405--nascar.html)
Yeah! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
THANK YOU Brad Keselowski & Roger Penske!
Quote from: odcics2 on November 18, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 18, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
A
New look ready for 2013 Sprint Cup car
Sixth generation car to feature driver's last name on the windshield This gives all the rules for the car.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Oh boy!! The name on the windshield like IROC racing!! :smilielol:
The only way to tell the cookie cutter cars apart I guess
That was a great win for Dodge! Maybe Fiat can run a car in 2014 :smilielol:
power out here in oregon,no alarm .got to a bar in time to see brads victory burn outs.......dagnabbit$%#@$%^&^^$^&**... watch few hour of after race and interviews.
loved the high lites of truck race and winn ,,,,,with whats its face grinding into tha wall,,,,god that was a good finish. :smilielol: :smilielol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:bush or brush the wall :rofl: :hah: :nana:
well at 10:30 they replayed the race ,kind of boring after hours of post race high lites and interviews,but watched the last nascar race ever from 10;30 to 1am something ....11hours at the bar and only had DR PEPPER,,iam so wired. EVER AS IN MAYAN 12-21-2012,,,HAHAHA.
SAw NEAT 62-67 VINTAGE COBRA RACE AND FORMULA1 OR OPEN WHEELS RACE TOO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SORRY FORGOT CAPS WAS ON well4am an still wired on dr pepper,,,,,,,latttttttttttttttter
Quote from: odcics2 on November 18, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 18, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
A
New look ready for 2013 Sprint Cup car
Sixth generation car to feature driver's last name on the windshield This gives all the rules for the car.
http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup (http://www.nascar.com/news/121117/nascar-reveals-2013-sprint-cup-car/index.html?eref=/news/headlines/cup)
Finally, they are putting the driver's last name on the windshield.....now drivers will not get into the wrong car on pit road! And Pit crew members will not "pit" the wrong car.......... :icon_smile_wink:
I think they are putting the names on the windshields so the fans can tell who's driving the car. With the sponsors changing every week no one knows who's in what car any more.
Danica is getting a divorce
Danica Patrick
Message from Danica Patrick to her fans: "I am sad to inform my fans that after 7 years, Paul and I have decided to amicably end our marriage. This isn't easy for either of us, but mutually it has come to this. He has been an important person and friend in my life and that's how we will remain moving forward."
Quote from: cdr on November 20, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Danica is getting a divorce
Danica Patrick
Message from Danica Patrick to her fans: "I am sad to inform my fans that after 7 years, Paul and I have decided to amicably end our marriage. This isn't easy for either of us, but mutually it has come to this. He has been an important person and friend in my life and that's how we will remain moving forward."
That's it, I have to find her number, and give her a call and let her know I'm still single :nana:
yep, better call her quick, jr. is probably already calling her. :nana:
Maybe Jr. is the reason for the divorce :shruggy: He isn't married either
by the way stroker. i like that little video the best of all the ones youve had. thats pretty neat. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 20, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
by the way stroker. i like that little video the best of all the ones youve had. thats pretty neat. :2thumbs:
Thanks, I don't mind mixing it up a little bit. I'm always open to suggestions and opinions
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 20, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
yep, better call her quick, jr. is probably already calling her. :nana:
Nope, Jr. is not married, but he has settled down with a young lady already.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 20, 2012, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 20, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
by the way stroker. i like that little video the best of all the ones youve had. thats pretty neat. :2thumbs:
Thanks, I don't mind mixing it up a little bit. I'm always open to suggestions and opinions
Danica?? :shruggy:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 20, 2012, 08:33:09 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 20, 2012, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 20, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
by the way stroker. i like that little video the best of all the ones youve had. thats pretty neat. :2thumbs:
Thanks, I don't mind mixing it up a little bit. I'm always open to suggestions and opinions
Danika?? :shruggy:
In a week or two. Remind me. Right now, I'm doing a favor for someone else :2thumbs:
Parting shot:
that is a great shot. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 20, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: cdr on November 20, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Danica is getting a divorce
Danica Patrick
Message from Danica Patrick to her fans: "I am sad to inform my fans that after 7 years, Paul and I have decided to amicably end our marriage. This isn't easy for either of us, but mutually it has come to this. He has been an important person and friend in my life and that's how we will remain moving forward."
That's it, I have to find her number, and give her a call and let her know I'm still single :nana:
it's posted in the commercials she does with Jr. He's hanging it from a pit road sign
Bryan
Brad is on letterman tonite,20th.
Quote from: cdr on November 20, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Danica is getting a divorce
Danica Patrick
Message from Danica Patrick to her fans: "I am sad to inform my fans that after 7 years, Paul and I have decided to amicably end our marriage. This isn't easy for either of us, but mutually it has come to this. He has been an important person and friend in my life and that's how we will remain moving forward."
And in related news, she blames the divorce on a slow pit crew and other drivers not giving her enough room going around turn 4.
Truck Series headed back to the dirt
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/truck-series-headed-back-dirt-204827088--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/truck-series-headed-back-dirt-204827088--nascar.html)
"NASCAR will go back to the dirt for the first time since 1970 when the Truck Series visits Eldora Speedway in Ohio. The July 24 event at the Tony Stewart-owned track in Rossburg will be a lead-in to the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series races later that weekend at Indianapolis Motor Speedway."
Back to the dirt??? The trucks NEVER ran on dirt in Nascar.... lol!
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 28, 2012, 06:51:59 PM
Truck Series headed back to the dirt
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/truck-series-headed-back-dirt-204827088--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/truck-series-headed-back-dirt-204827088--nascar.html)
"NASCAR will go back to the dirt for the first time since 1970 when the Truck Series visits Eldora Speedway in Ohio. The July 24 event at the Tony Stewart-owned track in Rossburg will be a lead-in to the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series races later that weekend at Indianapolis Motor Speedway."
Back to the dirt??? The trucks NEVER ran on dirt in Nascar.... lol!
I think theyre talking about NASCAR (at least the major series, and by that I mean "nationally televised") in general.
Either way, that sounds cool as f--k. You know a bunch of the Cup guys who started out in dirt tracks will try to get in on it, and some of the newer drivers who've only run on asphalt will do it too to prove something.
That may be the hardest ticket to get next year. :coolgleamA:
Chevys new Cup car for this coming year. The Chevy SS. I think it looks kinda cool, the flared out fenders look sharp. Much better than the COT they ran a couple years back.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on November 29, 2012, 01:54:29 PM
Chevys new Cup car for this coming year. The Chevy SS. I think it looks kinda cool, the flared out fenders look sharp. Much better than the COT they ran a couple years back.
its funny that the NASCAR version is being unveiled before the real car. Didn't Dodge do that too with the Charger in 04-05 though?
Anyway, most pundits believe this will be a rebadged Chevy version of the Pontiac G8, which in turn was a rebadged version of a Holden. Either way, V8 + RWD = :2thumbs:
I like it :2thumbs:
To bad the real street one is 4 doors :P
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 29, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
I like it :2thumbs:
To bad the real street one is 4 doors :P
<------------ :lol:
I heard something of interest on the NASCAR channel yesterday regarding the future of the Penske engine shop. First off, remember that Ford wants all its teams to use engines that they supply... Roush/Yates built engines. This being the case there is talk that the Penske engine shop will stay open and could supply Dodge engines to any team interested. (Remember that Penske had not one engine failure last year on any of their Dodges). As of right now there are no Dodge teams, but should anyone want to race a Nationwide or even Sprint Cup Dodge, there would be a source for engines available to them. Odds are there will not be any Dodge teams, but I hope that perhaps someone will run a Challenger in Nationwide. Bottomline, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Penske engine shop in regards to engines other than Ford since they are going Ford next year.
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 29, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
I like it :2thumbs:
To bad the real street one is 4 doors :P
:shruggy: yep the street version has little to like
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 20, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
Maybe Jr. is the reason for the divorce :shruggy: He isn't married either
:shruggy: hell I always wondered if JR was gay or something, hewas never around wemon, except his step mother Tereasa & his sister/manager, seeing him in a later post, he has a great looken' blonde gal...
Testing at Charlotte
looks like stewart haas made it too. my man ryan :2thumbs:
I wonder if the common templates are still used with these new bodies? I'm referring to the "Claw" as it is nicknamed
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 12, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
I wonder if the common templates are still used with these new bodies? I'm referring to the "Claw" as it is nicknamed
probably from the windshield on back (maybe even the hood).
They will, at least, probably have full templates for each make (ie one for the Fords, one for the the Chevys, etc) to make sure all the cars within that model/brand are the same.
Then they're taking a few steps back then. They just went back to pre COT. I'll wait until more info comes out next year to find out for sure.
Quote from: Budnicks on December 09, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 20, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
Maybe Jr. is the reason for the divorce :shruggy: He isn't married either
:shruggy: hell I always wondered if JR was gay or something, hewas never around wemon, except his step mother Tereasa & his sister/manager, seeing him in a later post, he has a great looken' blonde gal...
Yeah, good thing he has money. ;)
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on December 12, 2012, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on December 09, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 20, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
Maybe Jr. is the reason for the divorce :shruggy: He isn't married either
:shruggy: hell I always wondered if JR was gay or something, hewas never around wemon, except his step mother Tereasa & his sister/manager, seeing him in a later post, he has a great looken' blonde gal...
Yeah, good thing he has money. ;)
yep it's funny how having allot of money does that...LOL...
Brad Testing the new Fusion
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
It's cool, but it ain't no "2013 Charger"...LOL... too bad, so sad
so, lined up on the track, is the new nose flatter into the wind than the older model? doesnt seem too aerodynamic. :shruggy:
If Nascar's goal was to make the race car look like the street car, and the street car looks like that, I'm not going to get one anytime soon :eek2: I can understand Kenseth leaving a Ford if they look like that :eek2:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
Quote from: Danny Gutierrez on December 27, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
It's not like Brad had a choice, Dodge pulled out dumping all us fans, it's hard to be loyal to a brand that dosent care or get it. :brickwall:
I'll never get rid of my old iron but it's hard to be loyal when shopping new cars. :slap:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 26, 2012, 11:51:51 PM
:eek2: I can understand Kenseth leaving a Ford if they look like that :eek2:
I think Kenseth left for the money mostly and to get away from Edwards :rofl:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
I think the car looks kinda cool. Since I am not brand loyal, I do not care what the kid drives.
Quote from: nvrbdn on December 26, 2012, 10:35:53 PM
so, lined up on the track, is the new nose flatter into the wind than the older model? doesnt seem too aerodynamic. :shruggy:
I was thinking the same thing. It kind of reminds me of the flat nose they ran when the Charger first came out. The car ran great in the open, but did not run good in traffic. You started seeing Ryan an Kasey getting out their 3 year old Intrepids. Dodge was not happy about that one.
Quote from: Danny Gutierrez on December 27, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
I think most of us on here are brand loyal. I for one, routed for Dodge just like most do for a driver. I don't blame Dodge for pulling out, I blame Penske for giving up on them. I have high hopes of Dodge returning in '14 or 15. I pay attention to manufacturers, but I do also keep an eye on who has talent.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on December 27, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
Quote from: Danny Gutierrez on December 27, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
I may be wrong here but
It's not like Brad had a choice, Dodge pulled out dumping all us fans, it's hard to be loyal to a brand that dosent care or get it. :brickwall:
I'll never get rid of my old iron but it's hard to be loyal when shopping new cars. :slap:
Didn't Tony Stewart leave his Championship team when they switched manufacturers? I am not a big Tony fan but I have always respected that move. Of course that may not be why he left but that was always my interpretation.
Here's some of the paint schemes we will be seeing this year
http://www.jayski.com/news/schemes/story/_/page/2013-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Series-Paint-Schemes
Quote from: Danny Gutierrez on December 27, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Finally, a guy who gets it and knows what a REAL MoPar guy is ALL ABOUT!! Hats off to you sir. :Twocents:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 27, 2012, 10:42:11 AM
I think most of us on here are brand loyal. I for one, routed for Dodge just like most do for a driver. I don't blame Dodge for pulling out, I blame Penske for giving up on them. I have high hopes of Dodge returning in '14 or 15. I pay attention to manufacturers, but I do also keep an eye on who has talent.
If you read the quotes from Roger his main gripe was Dodge did not offer any help or support, something the other manufacturers offer. That is one reason I was so impressed with Brads championship, they did it despite Dodge doing nothing. Personally I would have went with Chevy, but PRS had Ford before, so. . . . .
"When we weighted the plusses and minuses of the opportunity, it was apparent to us that we need to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship. We have been trying to do it alone," Penske said in a conference call.
That is the exact same reason Petty went to Ford. Dodge didn't offer no help, and didn't even pay Petty when they were supposed to. So he dumped them like Penske did.
Sorry, I must have overlooked that conference. That was sort of the impression I have from what info I was told. Thanks for the clarification. :2thumbs: Maybe, Dodge will get their act together when they do return.
I know when news first broke, Brad was not too happy. Seems he liked his catfish mouthed Dodge. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on December 26, 2012, 10:35:53 PM
so, lined up on the track, is the new nose flatter into the wind than the older model? doesnt seem too aerodynamic. :shruggy:
2013 Fusion street car is .275 cd. 69 Charger Daytona is .290
Cars today are getting a lot of work done under the car with pans.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on December 27, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
Quote from: Danny Gutierrez on December 27, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 26, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Brad Testing the new Fusion
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Not to start a scene but am I truly the only guy here who is broken hearted? I am an open minded person but to see brad in a ford offends me. I am a manufacturer race fan. You will never see Gordon or Jr. Switch muanufacturers. I guess my brand of choice doesn't have that kind of loyalty. I will NOT watch attend NASCAR events. If there is no mopar to cheer for then I have no business being there.
It's not like Brad had a choice, Dodge pulled out dumping all us fans, it's hard to be loyal to a brand that dosent care or get it. :brickwall:
I'll never get rid of my old iron but it's hard to be loyal when shopping new cars. :slap:
The economy was one of the factors in Dodge getting out. Penske wanted a 5 year contract, Dodge offered 3. Roger bolted, leaving Dodge flat on their ass.
While Dodge was out of Nascar from 1978 to 2001, I still was loyal to MoPar. Still had vintage and new iron....
Nascar is smoke and mirrors anyway with cookie cutter rules for everything. Anyone notice that Nascar peaked and is on a downward decline in attendance?
Winter testing is in full swing at Daytona. Fords aren't very fast and Dale Jr. is already wrecking cars, except his own. 10 car pile up on the backstretch. Wiped out Gordon, Kayne, both Penske cars, Biffle, Edwards, Regan Smith, Ambrose, and Almirola.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on December 27, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 27, 2012, 10:42:11 AM
I think most of us on here are brand loyal. I for one, routed for Dodge just like most do for a driver. I don't blame Dodge for pulling out, I blame Penske for giving up on them. I have high hopes of Dodge returning in '14 or 15. I pay attention to manufacturers, but I do also keep an eye on who has talent.
If you read the quotes from Roger his main gripe was Dodge did not offer any help or support, something the other manufacturers offer. That is one reason I was so impressed with Brads championship, they did it despite Dodge doing nothing. Personally I would have went with Chevy, but PRS had Ford before, so. . . . .
"When we weighted the plusses and minuses of the opportunity, it was apparent to us that we need to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship. We have been trying to do it alone," Penske said in a conference call.
Chrysler Engineering figured out the fuel issues early last season. Penske's Boys were stymied.
Dodge gave them plenty of support...
Quote from: odcics2 on January 11, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on December 27, 2012, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 27, 2012, 10:42:11 AM
I think most of us on here are brand loyal. I for one, routed for Dodge just like most do for a driver. I don't blame Dodge for pulling out, I blame Penske for giving up on them. I have high hopes of Dodge returning in '14 or 15. I pay attention to manufacturers, but I do also keep an eye on who has talent.
If you read the quotes from Roger his main gripe was Dodge did not offer any help or support, something the other manufacturers offer. That is one reason I was so impressed with Brads championship, they did it despite Dodge doing nothing. Personally I would have went with Chevy, but PRS had Ford before, so. . . . .
"When we weighted the plusses and minuses of the opportunity, it was apparent to us that we need to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship. We have been trying to do it alone," Penske said in a conference call.
Chrysler Engineering figured out the fuel issues early last season. Penske's Boys were stymied.
Dodge gave them plenty of support...
Yes, just look at the waiting lines of teams ready to sign the next big Dodge contract. :P
Sorry, but Dodge tried shopping their crap around all last year. Nobody wants them because they offer no financial or engineering support. I don't blame anyone for dumping them. I know if I were to start up a team I would look at GM or Toyota. Dodge had nothing to do with Brads win, the credit is all with Penske Racing South.
When Dodge got back in it with Evernham, I think they were thinking the teams could be self sufficient after a couple of years of manufacturer support. Unfortunately, this idea failed. That's why so many teams dumped them after just a few years. It wasn't until Penske mentioned leaving Dodge, that they stepped up thier support and won the championship. Give Dodge a year or two to reanalyze thier racing program and then come back with a different point of view.
;)
Here is an odd rumor for you to ponder, if any thing it's probably just to get more money out of Chevy next year.
I don't see RCR. Ever switching camps but one never should say never.....
Dodge and RCR? What's it going to take to get Dodge Motorsports interested in NASCAR again? How about an organization such as Richard Childress Racing? One of the reasons cited for Dodge's departure from NASCAR at the end of the 2012 season was the inability to secure an organization equal to Penske Racing's stature. Although Dodge representatives flirted with Furniture Row Racing, Richard Petty Motorsports and Andretti Racing, nothing materialized from the meetings. However, what if Dodge could secure an organization that boasts six Cup titles, three Nationwide Series championships and two Truck titles? "I haven't talk to anybody," team owner Richard Childress said on Friday. "No one has approached me yet." Still, the rumor persists.(FoxSports)(1-11-2013)
I would find it highly unlikely, but anything is possible. Only problem is they are in cohoots with DEI. That would mean DEI would either have to switch as well, or go to Hendrick for engines.
Did anyone else notice on all that fiscal cliff nonsense, that Nascar and other franchises received a little padding in thier pockets?
Here's a good one.
I go to trivia night at a local pub on Wednesdays....but missed it this last week so my bro had to fill me in on what happened.
One question was: "Which NASCAR driver had the nickname "The Intimidater?" Too easy, right? :drive:
My bro puts down the answer, and when they start scoring, the guy running the show says, "Dale Earnhardt, SR....and you've got to have SR written. ::)
My brother calls BS.....and proceeds to argue with 1/2 the bar that there is Dale Earnhardt and Dale Earnhardt, JR.
He ended up just about getting into a skuffle with a couple dudes......probably not even NASCAR fans, they just don't like our team to win.....which we do quite frequently. :cheers:
Anyway....I'm sorry I missed out........it sounded exciting.
he was never referred to as "SR." until after he died.....
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on January 12, 2013, 03:37:21 PM
he was never referred to as "SR." until after he died.....
Bryan
Yeah.....and we could understand that......putting down SR as a clarification that you don't mean JR. But leaving off the SR should be acceptable as well, even preferred.
You only need to use Sr. in reference to the Teutals. When someone says Dale Earnhardt, I know who they're talking about.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 12, 2013, 04:15:03 PM
You only need to use Sr. in reference to the Teutals. When someone says Dale Earnhardt, I know who they're talking about.
yea..me too....and has anyone ever noticed that when someone interviews Jr, that they always refer to him as "Jr" and never call him by his "Dale" name?
at least from what I have seen
Bryan
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 12, 2013, 04:15:03 PM
You only need to use Sr. in reference to the Teutals. When someone says Dale Earnhardt, I know who they're talking about.
:iagree:
There was "Dale", and there is "Jr." Who can confuse the two?? :Twocents:
well, ive never been an earnhardt fan. didnt like the old man when he was around. called him "the cheater" instead of the name he was more commonly known as. at his last race i had a bet with my boss. he said that sr. would finish in front of every dodge on the track. so we bet. when i got to work, i made him pay off the bet since every dodge running on the track finished in front of him. not trying to stir up hate, just stating a preference of dodge motor sports, and a strong dislike of dei. :lol:
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 13, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
well, ive never been an earnhardt fan. didnt like the old man when he was around. called him "the cheater" instead of the name he was more commonly known as. at his last race i had a bet with my boss. he said that sr. would finish in front of every dodge on the track. so we bet. when i got to work, i made him pay off the bet since every dodge running on the track finished in front of him. not trying to stir up hate, just stating a preference of dodge motor sports, and a strong dislike of dei. :lol:
I never cared for him either
I think I had more fun rooting against him and Gordon if anything. Now I root for Gordon, and against Johnson. Please note, if that's the only two that have a chance of winning, I'd rather have Gordon than Johnson. :eek2: Otherwise, I have other drivers that I prefer to root for.
Do you guys remember when Sterling Marlin was called, "The Exterminator" after the Daytona 500 ??
Just happened to be over on the Nascar site.
When you check out Brad K. it shows last years points and he was #1. Roll over him and it flips over to say he drove a FORD... :shruggy:
WHAT A BUNCH OF B.S. :Twocents:
Dodge not expected back soon: Don't look for NASCAR to add a new manufacturer anytime soon. Vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said during Friday's "Gen 6" test at Charlotte Motor Speedway that he doesn't anticipate another manufacturer joining Ford, Chevrolet and Toyota in the "foreseeable future ... the next year or two." Dodge pulled out of the sport after winning the championship last season with Brad Keselowski and Penske Racing, which moved to Ford in 2013. There has been speculation that Dodge might return in 2014, possibly with a premier team such as Richard Childress Racing that has fallen to third among organizations in the Chevrolet fleet. Pemberton said the governing body periodically gets "cold calls" from potential manufacturers, but none that appear ready to join the sport in the next few years.(ESPN)(1-20-2013)
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 13, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
well, ive never been an earnhardt fan. didnt like the old man when he was around. called him "the cheater" instead of the name he was more commonly known as. at his last race i had a bet with my boss. he said that sr. would finish in front of every dodge on the track. so we bet. when i got to work, i made him pay off the bet since every dodge running on the track finished in front of him. not trying to stir up hate, just stating a preference of dodge motor sports, and a strong dislike of dei. :lol:
:2thumbs: :cheers: I respect that he won 7 Championships, but he got away with stuff no other driver "ever could have", because of his extremely close relationship with the all France family, the face of NASCAR at the time :Twocents:
fact is he put butts in the seats $$
no doubt he did. he had alot of fans. i just wasnt one of them. we all cant have the same likes and dislikes or it would be a boring world.
Quote from: Budnicks on February 02, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on January 13, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
well, ive never been an earnhardt fan. didnt like the old man when he was around. called him "the cheater" instead of the name he was more commonly known as. at his last race i had a bet with my boss. he said that sr. would finish in front of every dodge on the track. so we bet. when i got to work, i made him pay off the bet since every dodge running on the track finished in front of him. not trying to stir up hate, just stating a preference of dodge motor sports, and a strong dislike of dei. :lol:
:2thumbs: :cheers: I respect that he won 7 Championships, but he got away with stuff no other driver "ever could have", because of his extremely close relationship with the all France family, the face of NASCAR at the time :Twocents:
Dale who?
Anybody else watch the Hub tonight on Speed? It seems Danica Patrick and Ricky Stenhouse are together. This ought to be fun to watch. Both are vying for the Rookie of the Year. Question is, can she keep her personal life emotions off the track? :lol:
Hey, we landed on the moon. ;)
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 04, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
Anybody else watch the Hub tonight on Speed? It seems Danica Patrick and Ricky Stenhouse are together. This ought to be fun to watch. Both are vying for the Rookie of the Year. Question is, can she keep her personal life emotions off the track? :lol:
The relationship has been going on at the very least since sometime last season. (The NASCAR motor coach lot is a small world.) She won't be close enough to the front for it to matter anyway. It does make for good tv though.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 12, 2013, 11:12:44 AM
I would find it highly unlikely, but anything is possible. Only problem is they are in cohoots with DEI. That would mean DEI would either have to switch as well, or go to Hendrick for engines.
Did anyone else notice on all that fiscal cliff nonsense, that Nascar and other franchises received a little padding in thier pockets?
I remember reading recently that DEI was pulling out of the joint engine program precisely to go with Hendrick. By the way, DEI is now Earnhardt-Ganassi, and Ganassi was a Dodge team for a long team, so the connection may have made sense before EGR's pull out. Neither of these things, of course, mean that RCR will now go to Dodge. I gotta say, it'd be weird to see RCR in anything but Chevy cars.
Just a reminder for everyone, the Unlimited race (Bud Shootout) is this Saturday night at 8 pm est. BK isn't in the race :bawling: Only 19 cars are running.
On another note, Nascar is now using a new type of track drying system. No more Jet dryers. No word on whether it has a bullseye on it or not :lol: It uses compressed air. They have a semi with air compressors on the inside of the track while pickups pull a small trailer with the air nozzles. It looks like they connect 2 or 3 pickups to the semi via hose and all these vehicles go around the track. Dunno if the jet dryer will still be used for wreck cleanup though.
Here's driver lineup for Saturday
1 Kasey Kahne Chevrolet
2 Marcos Ambrose Ford
3 Denny Hamlin Toyota
4 Tony Stewart Chevrolet
5 Greg Biffle Ford
6 Kyle Busch Toyota
7 Matt Kenseth Toyota
8 Joey Logano Ford
9 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet
10 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet
11 Ken Schrader Ford
12 Juan Pablo Montoya Chevrolet
13 Aric Almirola Ford
14 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet
15 Mark Martin Toyota
16 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota
17 Kurt Busch Chevrolet
18 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet
19 Carl Edwards Ford
First time I heard that. I don't know why they don't still use old tires like they do at the short tracks. It's not like there is a shortage of old used tires, and that keeps the rubber on the track too.
Nothing there I'd wanna see...
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/the-sprint-unlimited.html
This is so everyone can vote on what format the Race will be run it. Some expire tonight, some Saturday.
voting closed already
They must have closed it for the computer guys, but I guess if you have a Sprint mobile device, it's still open. :brickwall: At least I got my vote in :icon_smile_big: I voted for the 50/40/10 lap system with mandated 4 tire pitstop in the first segment and no drivers getting voted out. I want to see how well these new cars are going to handle the draft and whether they suck up real well. If so, we could see the slingshot. That will make for some good racing come the 500. I doubt that the 2 car tandom will be much of a factor, but it could be. Besides, with a 10 lap shoot out at the end, things are almost guaranteed a spectacular finish :woohoo:
There is a ARCA race too on Speed before the Sprint shootout thing. That starts at 3:30pm central time. I love watching the ARCA cars run too.
I do to. Actually, I'm glad that they stuck with the older Nascar stockcars. Not only do I get to see up and coming talent, but racing like what I grew up with in the 90's and 00's :2thumbs:
Only 45 cars entered for the Daytona 500. That means only two cars go home. That is the smallest 500 entry list I can remember.
http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2013/story/_/page/01-Daytona-Entry-List (http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2013/story/_/page/01-Daytona-Entry-List)
Yeah, I think you are right. Useally it about 47 to 53 or so.
The race format voting is closed, but the other voting options are still open. Caution, the new Nascar site sucks and takes forever to load up, even with high speed net :brickwall:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/the-sprint-unlimited.html
The format that won was a 30/25/20 lap segments.
Terry Labonte is going to replace Shrader in the 32 for Saturday
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 14, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Terry Labonte is going to replace Shrader in the 32 for Saturday
that sucks
Quote from: A383Wing on February 14, 2013, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 14, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Terry Labonte is going to replace Shrader in the 32 for Saturday
that sucks
I would agree. I would rather see Shrader run than Terry. Nothing wrong with the Iron Man, but Shrader has a friendlier personality and I consider him more of a talented driver.
Change of topic:
Regarding this gen 6 car, which drivers do you think will benefit from this car the most? Will gen 4 drivers like Gordon, Edwards and Dale Jr. have better luck with this style of car, or do you think Cot drivers like Johnson, Hamlin, and Harvick still reign supreme?
Already in the first hour of practice for the Sprint Shootout on Speed, they had a 5 car crash started by Matt Kenseth
Who all was involved? I just tuned in.
Here's the crash...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmd8g9MsUXs&feature=youtu.be&t=4s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmd8g9MsUXs&feature=youtu.be&t=4s)
Being that Kenseth replaced Logano, does that mean he's going to start driving like Logano? :rofl: He's off to a good start
Anybody else into the Fantasy Live deal on Nascar.com?
By the way, the new Nascar.com website sucks :flame:
yes it does, i hope they read the web stats and find out how many people arent coming to the site anymore
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 15, 2013, 06:26:52 PM
Being that Kenseth replaced Logano, does that mean he's going to start driving like Logano? :rofl: He's off to a good start
:smilielol: :smilielol:
I do like Kenseth though. He raced locally here for years. I remember his rookie season too. I also talked to him in the pits here a lot when he raced here. He is a good guy.
Matt is about as close to a regular guy as a person can be. He hasn't forgotten where he came from.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 15, 2013, 10:54:59 PM
Matt is about as close to a regular guy as a person can be. He hasn't forgotten where he came from.
he reminds me of Mark Martin
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 15, 2013, 06:17:43 PM
Here's the crash...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmd8g9MsUXs&feature=youtu.be&t=4s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmd8g9MsUXs&feature=youtu.be&t=4s)
I watched the wreck several times and still can't tell what caused it.
Did He get loose or intentionally drive down the track.
Kenseth thought he was clear of Busch and come down across the nose of him
Just a reminder of the ARCA race live, at 3:30pm central time today on Speed
wow tony, what happened???? johnson got scared him and hamlin collected several.
Yep, Johnson done a good job. Takes out Gordon as well. Racing has been alright though. Wouldn't mind seeing some more passing though.
guess they dont have to eliminate 6 cars now
:smilielol: :smilielol:
Well, who is Stewart going to wreck next?
he is moving them around. :D he will take out the whole hendrick team.
Yeah, he's kinda rough on Jr. I'm routing for Kayne though.
Did Harvick have one of those trick motors in his car, like the one that Waltrip had in the 80's? :lol:
Anyone notice the stands were pretty empty? (all things considered... like debut of the new car)
Sure ain't like the old PT days! (pre-toyota)
yep, there was a small crowd. wonder how qualifying will be today?
sparse. :Twocents:
I hear tickets are still available for the 500
yeah they ran a commercial about tickets last night
We used to have to get tickets at least 6 months in advance.
With all tracks adding seating room in the past, and dropping crowds, for whatever the reasons, the stands will look less attended.
My first race in 1970 at MIS had a 'sellout' crowd ! 40K give or take!! I think it peaked at 150K !!
Are they still running the IROC series?
Bryan
No more IROC. That series ended quite a few years ago.
Poll qualifying at the top of the hour on Fox.
This field of cars is tied for the smallest qualifying field of cars in history for the 500, at 45 cars.
Danica got the pole! First time a woman got a pole in Nascar. :2thumbs:
11th consecutive first-time pole-sitter for the Great American Race at Daytona International Speedway.
I guess no driver has mastered that track.
Anyones race to win.
The Whelen Late model race was pretty dull until the last 30 laps. What Kyle Larson done was uncalled for, but made for a nice finish. He better watch out though in the next 2 races this week.
Did you watch the show after it about Richard Petty? It's very good. His old race shop restores cars now, and they got a Daytona in it.
I noticed that as well. It was an alright program. I would have liked to have seen more footage of his other cars though besides the 74 Charger. I'm sure it will aire again this weekend.
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
:rofl:
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
how she got there really isnt a conspiracy. if anybody has a lock on a full-time sponsor they are in... case in point Paul meanard
Let see, she is the lightest driver out there, and she has Hendrick power under the hood :scratchchin: She also won the pole at Daytona last year in Nationwide series. Also, all she had to do was hold the steering wheel straight. Add in a crew chief that knows what he is doing. Sounds like a recipe for a fast car at Daytona. Take away the makeup and the cell phone, she can easily get the job done. The real test is how well she can survive the duels and the 500.
We should have a friendly/unofficial pool....
Whoever guesses to the closest lap in which she's going to crash in the Five Hundy wins...absolutely nothing.
If there's a "tie" (ie, one guy guesses that she crashes at 55, another at 53, and she crashes at 54), the guy that doesn't go over wins.
I'll go first. I say she crashes right around lap 60.
I say she wrecks in the duel a quarter of the way through. I will watch Thursday, then make a more accurate prediction for Sunday. Lap 53 in the duel. :lol: I almost feel ashamed of myself for participating :smilielol:
I will say that Jr. will crash out either in the first 50 or the last 50 of the 500. JJ is almost certain to wreck sometime. He's a little less predictable as far as a timeline.
Speaking of wrecks, what's Montoya's target this year, the pace car, fire truck, ambulance, or the new track blower?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2013, 02:07:03 PM
Speaking of wrecks, what's Montoya's target this year, the pace car, fire truck, ambulance, or the new track blower?
Danica!! :smilielol:
Quote from: Chargen69 on February 19, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
how she got there really isnt a conspiracy. if anybody has a lock on a full-time sponsor they are in... case in point Paul meanard
Her getting the shaft, er , I mean pole, certainly got folks talking about nascar... Who's to say the car was 100% legal? A back door deal perhaps??
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
I don't think so in this case. Stewart and Newman were both up there in the top 5, so it isn't out of the question for her car to be fast. Now if Stewart and Newman were 15th or farther back, then you might have been onto something Stuart.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
We should have a friendly/unofficial pool....
Whoever guesses to the closest lap in which she's going to crash in the Five Hundy wins...absolutely nothing.
If there's a "tie" (ie, one guy guesses that she crashes at 55, another at 53, and she crashes at 54), the guy that doesn't go over wins.
I'll go first. I say she crashes right around lap 60.
To be honest, I don't think her driving is that bad. I saw a lot of the wannabe's (Cole Witt comes to mind) running into her more than anything. I also like how some people think she is such a b%^tch when she gets pissed about it, but if one of the other drivers says the same thing he has every right to be pissed.
As stated above, there are drivers who did not do well in Nationwide(Busch) that faired well in Cup as well as drivers who did very well in Nationwide(Busch) who did not do well in Cup (Jeff Green, David Green, Randy LaJoie).
She is starting out better than most. There is plenty of drivers in Cup that when they started they didnt have talent God gave a box of rocks (paul meanard comes to mind)
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti. As far as I know, she only survived one restrictor plate race. Thursday will be her test, unless the crew cheif tells her to lag at the back of the field.
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
A win is a win, no matter how you get them. :yesnod:
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 10:23:01 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy :nana: :slap: :smilielol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2013, 09:29:58 PM
I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti.
I suppose her equipment at Rahal Letterman sucked too?
In 13 seasons of racing, she has ONE win, that she achieved on fuel mileage.
She'll be 22nd in points at the end of this year, if she's lucky.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2013, 10:23:48 PM
A win is a win, no matter how you get them. :yesnod:
Yes. Ask Derrike Cope.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 10:23:01 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy :nana: :slap: :smilielol:
sorry IMHO she doesnt deserve to be there and she will cause wrecks , but if you like to watch her more power too you
i wont be watch much nascar without a dodge to root for anyway .
Considering her Nationwide results, I doubt that she will make the Chase, but she finished in the Top 10 in points, and had 4 top 10's. She had finishes worse than 25th 9 times. The rest of the time, she run in the top 20 just outside of the Top 10. That was her first full time season. I say she will finish Top 18 in points this year. Maybe 3 Top 10's. Sprint Cup guys are tougher to run with, but not that tuff.
http://espn.go.com/racing/driver/raceresults/_/id/697/series/3/year/2012/danica-patrick
Speaking of women in Nascar, has anybody heard of this gal?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar--female-in-the-pits--christmas-abbott-is-set-to-enter-where-few-women-have-before-170207111.html
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2013, 09:29:58 PM
I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti. As far as I know, she only survived one restrictor plate race. Thursday will be her test, unless the crew cheif tells her to lag at the back of the field.
I know she will be in better stuff than she had over at jr's in the nationwide series. Thats why Jr fired his family last year. They gave her junk to drive.
The drivers in cup may show her a little more respect then the back markers in the nationwide series did, I think a lot of her crashes were from people hitting her because they don't like women drivers. The closer to the front she gets the better she will do.
And with Dodge out for a long time why not root for the other underdog in the 10 car? :2thumbs:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 10:23:01 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy :nana: :slap: :smilielol:
Oh and stop mother F ing me it wasnt a real points race check wikipedia :nana: so there i dont just spout off usless info I remember it just not perfectly .
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Indy Japan 300 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Japan_300
The Indy Japan 300 presented by Bridgestone was an Indy Racing League IndyCar Series ... The 2008 race marked the historic first ever win for a woman driver in ... was held as an exhibition race, and no championship points were awarded. Because of Open-Wheel Reunification in 2008, the 2008 Indy Japan 300 race was a half-field race. "Transitioning" teams at Long Beach raced for full IRL points despite using the former Champ Car codes.
It's on the internet - gotta be real! :2thumbs:
(Except when it says the #6 Daytona ran laps over 200.... :flame:)
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Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
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Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy :nana: :slap: :smilielol:
Oh and stop mother F ing me it wasnt a real points race check wikipedia :nana: so there i dont just spout off usless info I remember it just not perfectly .
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Indy Japan 300 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Japan_300
The Indy Japan 300 presented by Bridgestone was an Indy Racing League IndyCar Series ... The 2008 race marked the historic first ever win for a woman driver in ... was held as an exhibition race, and no championship points were awarded. Because of Open-Wheel Reunification in 2008, the 2008 Indy Japan 300 race was a half-field race. "Transitioning" teams at Long Beach raced for full IRL points despite using the former Champ Car codes.
Got a link?
Stuart and I'm not M Fing you :rofl: :hah: Woman Hater
this explains the short field...
An unresolvable scheduling conflict occurred between Motegi and Long Beach. Existing IndyCar teams competed in the Indy Japan 300, while some of the former Champ Car teams raced at Long Beach using their 2007 Panoz DP01 chassis. Both races counted toward the 2008 title. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_IndyCar_Series_season none points race my ass... :angel:
Check this out also http://indymotorspeedway.com/08irlsch.html
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 20, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Got a link?
Stuart and I'm not M Fing you :rofl: :hah: Woman Hater
this explains the short field...
An unresolvable scheduling conflict occurred between Motegi and Long Beach. Existing IndyCar teams competed in the Indy Japan 300, while some of the former Champ Car teams raced at Long Beach using their 2007 Panoz DP01 chassis. Both races counted toward the 2008 title. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_IndyCar_Series_season none points race my ass... :angel:
Check this out also http://indymotorspeedway.com/08irlsch.html
oh, so she won a race against short field - ie. inferior competition?
How can you call Helio Castronevas an inferior opponent? He would have won if he didn't run out of petro
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Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on February 19, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings
Danica
Never won a points race in IRL
Never won a points race in Nation wide
But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race
but she wins the pole for the THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:
She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. :nana:
japan race was not a points race hence I STATED POINTS RACE
Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.
Career Stats
Year Starts Wins Top 5 Top 10 Top 15 Top 20 DNF Avg. Start Avg. Finish Laps Led Total Laps Earnings
2011 17 0 1 9 11 14 0 18.6 12.4 13 (.62%) 2093 $321,745
2010 17 0 3 8 12 16 0 16.1 11.4 1 (.04%) 2408 $307,305
2009 17 0 5 10 13 17 1 10.2 9.6 26 (.96%) 2699 $763,305
2008 17 1 3 10 13 16 2 10.1 10.6 4 (.14%) 2779 $301,915
2007 17 0 4 11 16 17 3 8.9 8.2 17 (.63%) 2709 $1,182,055
2006 14 0 2 8 12 14 2 13.1 9.9 0 (.00%) 2299 $923,005
2005 17 0 2 7 11 17 5 7.8 12.5 63 (2.21%) 2850 $1,037,655
she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.
she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke
You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy :nana: :slap: :smilielol:
Oh and stop mother F ing me it wasnt a real points race check wikipedia :nana: so there i dont just spout off usless info I remember it just not perfectly .
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The Indy Japan 300 presented by Bridgestone was an Indy Racing League IndyCar Series ... The 2008 race marked the historic first ever win for a woman driver in ... was held as an exhibition race, and no championship points were awarded. Because of Open-Wheel Reunification in 2008, the 2008 Indy Japan 300 race was a half-field race. "Transitioning" teams at Long Beach raced for full IRL points despite using the former Champ Car codes.
Got a link?
Stuart and I'm not M Fing you :rofl: :hah: Woman Hater
this explains the short field...
An unresolvable scheduling conflict occurred between Motegi and Long Beach. Existing IndyCar teams competed in the Indy Japan 300, while some of the former Champ Car teams raced at Long Beach using their 2007 Panoz DP01 chassis. Both races counted toward the 2008 title. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_IndyCar_Series_season none points race my ass... :angel:
Check this out also http://indymotorspeedway.com/08irlsch.html
I'm not a woman Hater , I love women . I just hate that Bitch and know she will be causing plenty more wrecks this year .
How many wrecks did she actually cause last year?
I don't think she actually "caused" that many, I do know she was caught up in a lot because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was not her fault
Bryan
This thread is starting to rememind me of a political thread :eyes:
But for you guys that are home, remember the Twin Qualifing races today at 1pm central time.
Nice breakdown of the evolution of the cars..
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-de-stockification-and-ensuing-re-stockification-o-287715169
Nascar just announced that start in 2014, the duels will be run at night. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 21, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
This thread is starting to rememind me of a political thread :eyes:
But for you guys that are home, remember the Twin Qualifing races today at 1pm central time.
Amen brother...
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 21, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Nascar just announced that start in 2014, the duels will be run at night. :2thumbs:
I like some of the night races, easier to watch & see, with out having to plan my whole damn day around watching them live...
I really don't get the Danica bashing or hatred, I'm not her biggest fan either, maybe it's just petty jealousy or envy, she's actually doing something most men/women can't & won't ever do... I give her, her due props for doing a good job, finally she's showing some potential in NASCAR... I actually believe it's good for NASCAR & the bass ackwards misogynist "good old boys club", she's making quite a few of that crowd, "eat their words now", it helps to get some exposure for the whole fields, not just for Danica, although it seems like it's the "all Danica show", when she does something well, but also it brings in the possibility of more TV & Sponsors, to keep NASCAR & especially the team owners, rollen' in cash, maybe Dodge &/or even Penske should have signed her, they would/could still have a damn Dodge involved in NASCAR maybe {but I doubt it thou}... She sells tickets & TV time, when she does well, $$$$ that's the bottom line... :Twocents: :popcrn:
Agreed :cheers:
She didn't wreak(the 11 did) I think she she ran smart once she decided her car didn't have it in to run up front, no sense in risking a good starting spot. :P
Looks like the top is the place to be if you want to win. funny last year it was the bottom and I watched a little nationwide practice and they all worked on the 2 car draft. :o
It may be the best race at Daytona this year. :D
Considering the races were more all Jr, JJ, Stewart, Gordon show, nothing wrong with adding another superstar to the mix. At least it's another storyline in the race. Adding a couple more ladies in Sprint Cup will take some of the flame away from Danica.
Well it looks like its going to be mostly a single file ho hum 500 this year :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
It's shaping up to be the boringest race ever. Side by side racing, almost no passing, drafting not very effective. Two and a half hours of a high speed parade lap.
Some guys have all the luck. Edwards just doesn't have the right kind this year so far. 4 cars torn up already. Maybe he'll do better in the 500, fingers crossed :P
Looks like if you want to see a race, watch the trucks :2thumbs: Looks like they will be able to 2 car tandem as well as pack race.
I just realized it's gonna be another bad year listening to Darrell Walltrip, Micheal Walltrip, and Rusty Wallace's voices again on TV
(shit)
Bryan (the truck series has always been better in my opinion anyways)
i think i understand all the problems with danica, if a woman wins a cup race, the sprint girls that stand behind the winning driver nodding their heads and smiling like they actually understand whats going on will look out of place standing behind a woman winner trying to look like they are interested in what she is saying. :smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 21, 2013, 07:20:37 PM
I just realized it's gonna be another bad year listening to Darrell Walltrip, Micheal Walltrip, and Rusty Wallace's voices again on TV
(shit)
Bryan (the truck series has always been better in my opinion anyways)
Do like me - don't watch! :2thumbs:
I heard that the #2 car had more fuel issues in the last practice and they took parts back to the Penske shop to figure it out.
Probably looking for the notes from Chrysler Engineering on last years fuel woes... :shruggy:
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 21, 2013, 07:50:05 PM
i think i understand all the problems with danica, if a woman wins a cup race, the sprint girls that stand behind the winning driver nodding their heads and smiling like they actually understand whats going on will look out of place standing behind a woman winner trying to look like they are interested in what she is saying. :smilielol:
LMAO. I would love to see that, but it's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Quote from: A383Wing on February 21, 2013, 07:20:37 PM
Bryan (the truck series has always been better in my opinion anyways)[/color]
the dirt race is gonna be awesome.
I wonder if they're just seeing how it will go and then consider doing it in NNS or Cup.
I doubt that the cup or nationwide cars will drive on dirt. But, it is nice to see Nascar going back to its roots and allowing one of its major divisions to run on dirt. It's gonna be interesting to watch just because the crews aren't used to the setups. Drivers on the other hand, they're gonna love it. Old school racing at its best. :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 21, 2013, 07:20:37 PM
I just realized it's gonna be another bad year listening to Darrell Walltrip, Micheal Walltrip, and Rusty Wallace's voices again on TV
(shit)
Bryan (the truck series has always been better in my opinion anyways)
I totally agree. . . I would rather hear my two ex-wifes call the race over those two dipsh!ts.
NOBODY sucks worse than Wally D on TNT
Darrell isn't all that bad, but Mikey is :eek2: I'm not much of a fan of him behind the wheel either. When he went to DEI and then said " I'm so happy to help Dale Jr. win" that done it in for me. Outside of Daytona and Talledega, he can't drive. He can barely drive those two tracks.
As far as announcers, the guys in the pits do better than those in the booth.
it would be cool if they let mrn or prn do the sound for tv. Those guys make a boing race sound like the last race that is ever gonna run, with their intensity
I agree. Actually, I think you get a better idea of how the race is going on the radio compared to tv.
I hate seeing the race finish under yellow :flame: I really wanted to see how the truck race would turn out :icon_smile_dissapprove:
I actually thought Kyle Busch would be pissed off, but he took that pretty well finishing 2nd for the 3rd time.
There's always next year :popcrn: Maybe, he's just testing himself for Sunday
Well, Danica's car quit on her. Nothing she did. But she is out of the Nationwide race.
That sucks. Of course, it happened while I was out. Same way with Kurts' wreck. Glad there's replays ;)
Wild finish in the Nationwide. Kyle Larson's car got the motor ripped out of it. It ended up in the fence. Sucks that Stewart won again :icon_smile_dissapprove:
HOLY CRAP!!!! This last crash almost like Carl Edwards a few years ago!!! The engine and a wheel in the stands!!!
Hope they get the fence fixed for tomorrow. I see some chassis changes to keep the motors in the cars very soon
Hard to believe that happened
The fence will be fixed. I'm sure they will have guys there 24 hours if they have to to fix it. as for the engines, in this case, with the whole front of the car being ripped off, there really is no way to keep that from happening.
Here it is if someone missed it. Again, the engine and one of the front wheels went through the fence onto the walkway in front of the stands. Still no official news if anyone in the stands was injured. All the drivers walked away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFS5yFdj4mA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFS5yFdj4mA)
Allen Bestwick keeps doing the solemn "we're waiting to hear updates from the speedway and NASCAR..." That's usually not a good sign.
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video...brutal.
http://jalopnik.com/insane-nascar-crash-at-daytona-ends-with-an-engine-near-398864966?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Bummer about the spectators. Hoping nothing serious comes out of it.
Looks like Keselowski was making a winning move and Regan Smith put the block on him and the chaos ensued. Only good thing to come out of the crash for me is that Stewart was there to take advantage and win the race.
Well, there are injuries unfortunately. Seems like we will know more later on tonight. Best of wishes for everyone :pity:
that engine sitting inside the fence was a very scary sight
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 23, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Well, there are injuries unfortunately. Seems like we will know more later on tonight. Best of wishes for everyone :pity:
yeah. can't be good because of where it happened. Right at the S/F line at the white flag. People are usually standing right on the fence to get a close look and/or walking on their way out.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 23, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 23, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Well, there are injuries unfortunately. Seems like we will know more later on tonight. Best of wishes for everyone :pity:
yeah. can't be good because of where it happened. Right at the S/F line at the white flag. People are usually standing right on the fence to get a close look and/or walking on their way out.
i know if i was sitting there at the very least i would need to change my pants
It's kinda hard to realize it really. Those engines and wheel hubs are tethered to the main chassis to keep stuff like this from happening. I guess the tether straps were mounted ahead of the firewall. Maybe they need to be thethered to the main roll cage. Or, would that put the main loop in jeopardy? They can't stregnthen the engine compartment too much, or it won't collapse upon impact, injurying drivers.
I guess catch fence improvements will be the next advancement in racetrack safety.
4-5 people injured due to a tire in the H stands.
From USA Today..
"A tire came over the fence, and a lot of debris came up into the stands, where safety crews were working on at least five people, including four who were strapped to backboards. And at least two people were injured in the upper deck, where another safety crew with an additional two stretchers were sent."
Wow, That's terrible.
I hope the Fans are not injured to seriously.
when they finally showed a good replay you could see the tire take off straight up in the air and hit somewhere behind the flag tower up in the stands. there were a couple other pieces of debris heading the same way.
I just saw that on Speed channel. They showed the tire going way up in the stands
One fan in surgery. 15 people injured total that went to the hospital. Best of wishes to them. :pity:
Watching on Speed
at least no one died (to our knowledge at this point)
Micheal Annette OK :2thumbs: Still waiting for word on the fans :grouphug:
Two fans said a guy in front of them was hit with a flying piece of steel in his head, then it bounced over them, and hit a husband and wife. Both men had head cuts to their heads, and the one fans wife had the piece of metal get lodged into her stomach :rotz:
It is now reported by Nascar, all fans were stable when arriving at the hospitals.
28 injured total. 14 were treated in the infield hospital with minor injuries, 14 were shipped out to others. The car hit the wall where there was a crossover gate. 11 went to Halifax. 2 are in critical condition, one is a minor, the other with head trauma. 1 of those only is there for heat exhaustion, 7 for trauma, but all are stable
the wheel that went up in the stands, had the whole lower control arm assembly on it too. Kyle Petty said that whole thing weighs about 200 pounds with the tire, wheel, inner liner, brake assembly, etc. Speed also had video of the officials taking it out of the seating area. Was a LOT of metal there :o
Video from the stands is still up on Deadspin (for now). Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half (http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half)
Scary stuff
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And this is the worst part coming over the fence at 150 - 200 MPH
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Quote from: Aero426 on February 23, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Video from the stands is still up on Deadspin (for now). Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half (http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half)
here is the direct link on YouTube for easy navigation.
http://youtu.be/FJn7gbsr3mM
Quote from: Aero426 on February 23, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Video from the stands is still up on Deadspin (for now). Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half (http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half)
here is the direct link to those pics ;)
http://www.wftv.com/gallery/sports/daytona-race-ends-frightening-last-lap-crash/g77q/#3139152 (http://www.wftv.com/gallery/sports/daytona-race-ends-frightening-last-lap-crash/g77q/#3139152)
At least the stands weren't at full capacity. It's still a bad deal for those involved.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 23, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Video from the stands is still up on Deadspin (for now). Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half (http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half)
:o
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2013, 07:33:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on February 23, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Video from the stands is still up on Deadspin (for now). Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half (http://deadspin.com/5986464/todays-nascar-nationwide-race-at-daytona-ended-with-kyle-larsons-car-going-through-the-security-fence-and-torn-in-half)
here is the direct link to those pics ;)
http://www.wftv.com/gallery/sports/daytona-race-ends-frightening-last-lap-crash/g77q/#3139152 (http://www.wftv.com/gallery/sports/daytona-race-ends-frightening-last-lap-crash/g77q/#3139152)
Actually they came from USA Today :D http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/sports/nascar/2013/02/23/nascar-nationwide-series-at-daytona-drive4copd-300/1941445/
Damn. :o
Here is the crash from another fans angle inside the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVEbO1fheII
The 2 people that were critical have been stabilized.
I have never been a fan of "pack" racing and these last lap crashes are getting to be to regular :rotz:
ANY ONE WATCHING THE FUSUN 500 OR IS IT THE DANICA 500 SHOW??? LOOKS LIKE SHE FORGOT TO HER BOOBS WHEN SHE PUT ON THE FIRE SUIT?? :D :D :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: djcarguy on February 24, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
ANY ONE WATCHING THE FUSUN 500 OR IS IT THE DANICA 500 SHOW??? LOOKS LIKE SHE FORGOT TO HER BOOBS WHEN SHE PUT ON THE FIRE SUIT?? :D :D :smilielol: :smilielol:
I saw my buddy Mopar Stuart during the prerace hauling his girl Danica around...
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and on Lap 90 - Danica becomes first female to lead a lap under green in the Daytona 500.
Running 3rd on the last lap she ran out of talent and finished 8th place in the Daytona 500! Best finish ever by a female in the 500!
You forgot either the tow rope or someone bumpdrafting. Good pic :2thumbs:
This side by side deal is a joke :flame: I'd have a bigger screen watching it on an Iphone. This single file stuff isn't gonna cut it either
Too bad Harvick and Kayne got wrecked. Stewart on the other hand :woohoo:
I like Stewart :brickwall:
I'm sorry Truckdriver. I'll take it into consideration next time something like that happens again.
Edwards wrecked another car :icon_smile_dissapprove: Can't the guy catch a break? Wrecked out Trevor Bayne as well :bawling: At least BK saved his car
:brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: I'm not happy with the win :flame:
Well that was uneventful l wish that last caution with 10 to go wasn't thrown the racing was the best it was going to be and it would have been nice to see how it would have finished out.
Lots of follow the leader today. :eek2:
ive been framed , this is obviously a photo shop robbed i tell you robbed :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: :rotz:
I fell asleep around the half way point. Woke up just in time to see Jimmie doing his burnouts.
Looks like Danica had a good race. My boy Newman finished 5th. Not bad for a wrecked car. :2thumbs:
I thought she done good as well. Can't complain about a top 10 finish, even though she thought she could do better. Overall, I wasn't satisfied with this new car. It's no fun watching single file racing. Two car tandem was much more fun to watch then this. Give these cars bigger grill openings and bring it back so that cars can actually pass each other. Or make the lower groove usable. Inside cars couldn't do didly. Bring the racing back. :'(
Soon as I saw Johnson was going to win, I turned off the tv :rotz:
me too, I thought I watched this 3 hrs of racing ,and then Johnson(the cheater) wins the boring single file race. ::)
I'm pissed that Harvick and Stewart got taken out, even more pissed that the 48 won :RantExplode:
Danica did good, proud of her
the single file train was boring
oh well, on to next week
Bryan
I'm no Johnson fan, but at least the Toyotas in contention blowed up.
Not a fan of the single line racing either.
5th for Newman and 8th for Danica. Was hoping Tony would have been able to finish better, but that is what restrictor plate racing is all about: Hold the pedal down and hope your still running on the lead lap by 10 to go and go for the win. :shruggy:
On to Phoenix. :cheers:
Now the regular season can get started and we can see if this new car is going to be better than the cot.
I didnt enjoy the race at all...but couldnt stop laughing at "Happy" for thinking someone wrecked him.
I thought Danica just just fine!
yep, ryan is my guy. glad he came back to 5th. got some points and led a lap too. not a johnson fan, or a jr fan, but with mark falling off the back of jr at the end, he lost his chance of winning. definately a calm finish.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 24, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
I thought she done good as well. Can't complain about a top 10 finish, even though she thought she could do better. Overall, I wasn't satisfied with this new car. It's no fun watching single file racing. Two car tandem was much more fun to watch then this. Give these cars bigger grill openings and bring it back so that cars can actually pass each other. Or make the lower groove usable. Inside cars couldn't do didly. Bring the racing back. :'(
so, what youre saying is, that now that the cars finally bear at least a passing resemblance to their street versions the racing is boring?
who'd have thought that?
you cant judge how the racing will be based on the datona 500. wait untill they get to a non restrictor track and see what they do. tag team is for wrestling. :smilielol:
True, they are supposed to get a 7 in tall spoiler for the rest of the tracks except Talladega. Hopefully, it'll bring some better racing. Their restrictor plate program needs improvement that's for sure. It sucked watching a 200 mph funeral concession. I'm just glad it wasn't an actual one.
Two things that I'm almost embarrassed to ask because I like to think that I follow NASCAR pretty closely and know the sport well but:
1) Now that the Cup cars are running EFI, are restrictor plates still being used? Would seem kinda pointless when NASCAR can just control that by programming the ECU.
If they still are -
2) Do Busch Nationwide cars use restrictor plates? Back when both Cup and NNS were still running carbed motors, I always thought it would have been easier for NASCAR to make Cup teams use the lesser powered NNS engines for restrictor plate races.
All 3 of the top series do run restrictor plates. I think the modifieds even run plates at Loudon, not positive on that though.
Here is what they need:
3" rear spoilers, any angle you want to run.
No more bump stops.
36" front blade spoiler - get rid of splitters
take out the side glass, delete the shark fin.
get rid of the side skirts.
Then - may the best man, er make that driver now, win. :Twocents:
The way Nascar should be. No areo, plenty of bumpdrafting, and a whole lot of action.
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ug1seZvffG4#!
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ug1seZvffG4#!
:smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 24, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
I'm pissed that Harvick and Stewart got taken out, even more pissed that the 48 won :RantExplode:
Danica did good, proud of her
the single file train was boring
oh well, on to next week
Bryan
:iagree:
Here's the reason for the first "debris" caution on lap 28.
Petty blue makes a return for this year for 24 of the races this year on the 43 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Also, Micheal Annette broke his sternum. Aric Almirola will replace him this weekend.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 26, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Here's the reason for the first "debris" caution on lap 28.
:hah: No doubt... :smilielol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 27, 2013, 06:04:31 PM
Petty blue makes a return for this year for 24 of the races this year on the 43 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Also, Micheal Annette broke his sternum. Aric Almirola will replace him this weekend.
They say Micheal Annette is out indefinatly, possably the year. :rotz:
I think Aric is a better driver anyway
Bryan
I agree with you totally there. :yesnod:
Quote from: Aero426 on February 26, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Here's the reason for the first "debris" caution on lap 28.
Lordy !!! Rookie spectators !!! ::)
Mark Martin and Kasey Kahne have the front row for Sunday. :woohoo:
Danica didn't do so hot. Starts 40th
Stewart Haas is having a hard time at Phoenix.
yes they are. sucks. oh well, lets just hope ryan can do something this year and pull a sponser or two so tony will keep 4 drivers on his team next year.
Good win for Edwards and the cat in the hat :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Much better than some of the other guys up front. Would have liked to have seen BK get 2nd, no thanks to Hamlin.
I'm gonna have to redo my rosters. My guys have been starting out good, but fall late.
brad helped by pushing on the restart. carl had a good win. the flip is back. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs: I was hoping #2 Bad Brad would win, he was doing well for most the race, I have Tony & Brad in a Pick Em' game on FBBO forum... Danica started 40th finished 26th I think it was, even after smashing the wall, folding up the car, after a cut tire :slap: , seems like allot tire issues there, not just for them... didn't Ryan cut a tire & slam the wall too... I wonder if it was a brake heat problem on their cars, blowing out the inner beads or something else, other than cut tires :shruggy:... IMHFO anyone but the Jeff or Jimmy show, to me is just great :Twocents:
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 03, 2013, 06:32:23 PM
brad helped by pushing on the restart. carl had a good win. the flip is back. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
yep, i think it was the bead heating up causing the blowouts.
Good article by Mike Mulhern on the 2013 NASCAR Dodge and what might have been. It is still amazing to me that Dodge decided to reap nothing from a championship winning season. For all practical purposes, they swept it under the rug and walked away.
http://www.mikemulhern.net/BreakingNow/remember-that-2013-dodge-what-might-have-been/ (http://www.mikemulhern.net/BreakingNow/remember-that-2013-dodge-what-might-have-been/)
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 05, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
yep, i think it was the bead heating up causing the blowouts.
:2thumbs: me too
Hamlin refuses to pay fine for talking bad about the Gen 6.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/denny-hamlin-says-he-will-not-pay-fine-for-generation-6-car-comments-030713#!cdid4
On that issue, I favor Hamlin. Nascar crossed the line when they fined him. Look at Kyle Busch, he won the first race in the COT car, and bashed it in victory lane. I don't remember him getting fined. I hope Hamlin wins his appeal.
By fining him, NASCAR has made the whole world know of the "problem" with the cars. They poured gas on it and lit the match.
I agree.
Hamlin has every right to voice His opinion.
25K fine is out of line.
He is on My NASCAR fantasy team, I hope He doesn't get suspended.
hamlins a little weasel they should have fined him double that
Quote from: moparstuart on March 08, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
hamlins a little weasel they should have fined him double that
for what, speaking his opinion?
Quote from: A383Wing on March 08, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 08, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
hamlins a little weasel they should have fined him double that
for what, speaking his opinion?
no just because hes a whiney brat and I hate him :icon_smile_big: :nana: :nana: oh and he drives a toyota too
Quote from: moparstuart on March 08, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on March 08, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 08, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
hamlins a little weasel they should have fined him double that
for what, speaking his opinion?
no just because hes a whiney brat and I hate him :icon_smile_big: :nana: :nana: oh and he drives a toyota too
YEAH! Anyone but me notice the race attendance began plummeting when they let "them forine cars" on the tracks??? :shruggy:
p.s. I heard that honda has tested a car for nascar... :eek2:
Congrats to Matt Kenseth for winning today on Sunday. I was pulling for Kayne, but either one was ok. At least we had some close racing here at the end.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 09, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
Congrats to Matt Kenseth for winning today on Sunday. I was pulling for Kayne, but either one was ok. At least we had some close racing here at the end.
:cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 10, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 09, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
Congrats to Matt Kenseth for winning today on Sunday. I was pulling for Kayne, but either one was ok. At least we had some close racing here at the end.
:cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Yes
Good rece. :2thumbs:
I was rooting for Matt, seeing it was his Birthday and all...I like Kasey, but since he joined Hendricks, he's not one whom I root for anymore
Bryan
:iagree:
Not a fan of ANYTHING Hendrick.
Just because Kasey moved to Hendrick, doesn't make him a bad guy. I rooted for Martin when he was in the 5, and Busch as well. He's about the only driver they have that doesn't really fit the cookie cutter mold over there for now.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 11, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
Just because Kasey moved to Hendrick, doesn't make him a bad guy. I rooted for Martin when he was in the 5, and Busch as well. He's about the only driver they have that doesn't really fit the cookie cutter mold over there for now.
I agree, Kasey is one of my favorites, I don't care who he drives for.
Anyone ever listen to Kasey on the scanner at the track? If the kid is having a tough race you would not want to have your kids listening. His language would make a sailor blush.
yea..no kidding...he knows a few more words than I do...
I never said he was a bad guy....My wife & I have met and talked to him....he even has signed a picture of our Daytona when we were at his dealership in Enumclaw years ago....it's just I will not root for a Hendricks team
If it came down to a race between Kasey, Jr., the 24, or the 48, then yea, I would root for Kasey, but that's about it.
Bryan
Is it just Hendrick, or does everyone on here pay more attention to the owners and the cars, then who drives the cars? For me personally, I'd rather follow the drivers. I could care less who owned the cars, just as long as they provide good equipment to all their cars and not favor one in particular. I guess Hendrick and Childress would fall into this group. If there are any teams I follow, it'd be the Petty's and the Wood bros. more for a heritage pov.
For me, I follow the drivers, except for the 4 that drive for Rick....I'll root for anyone to beat Hendrick drivers, especially the 24 or 48 cars.
I was never a fan of Robby Gordon either, or Derrick Cope
I miss Kenny Schrader driving, along with others
Bryan
Following the drivers, and not the car, is exactly one of the reasons Dodge dropped out... :Twocents:
Seems logical to me......that many things factor into "following " a driver. Of course the drivers behavior on and off the track is likely the most important, car brand/team owner/crew chief etc. will be part of it. [for me, car brand is huge, I'm a Mopar guy]
I am not a fan of anything Hendrick. Thus, not a fan of anyone driving Hendrick equipment. I do NOT cheer when they crash/blow up......so I do not believe I'm a hater. But I am not gonna cheer either.
Would agree one of the factors of Dodge leaving was Nascars promoting the driver over the brand. Also logically, that is a factor in Nascars decline.....IROC style cookie cutter cars/drivers/tracks[1-1/2 mile].....making things worse. Lotta empty seats showing in the stands....
Am I the only one happy about the decline in attendance?
let me explain; it has created lower ticket prices for better seats less congestion less fans or people that are here just for the party.
And best of all less #3 and Jr. Fans :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
It was just more enjoyable when less people were around. :coolgleamA:
i agree that it can be nicer with less traffic, smaller crowds, less jr fans.
now, as far as rooting for the drivers vs. owners. i was first for mopar, second i was ryan newman.
then i had a few drivers id root for over the ones i cant stand.
now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports. its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment. when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
just my feelings :flame:
yea...what he said
Since no mo' Mopar, I root for ABT. (Anybody But Toyota)
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 12, 2013, 07:31:26 PM
now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports. its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment. when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
just my feelings :flame:
That's putting it better then I could. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 12, 2013, 07:31:26 PM
i agree that it can be nicer with less traffic, smaller crowds, less jr fans.
now, as far as rooting for the drivers vs. owners. i was first for mopar, second i was ryan newman.
then i had a few drivers id root for over the ones i cant stand.
now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports. its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment. when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
just my feelings :flame:
:2thumbs: well said, same thing with Dale Sr., he could get away with anything, NASCAR looked the otherway
:2thumbs: To Hamlin. He has decided not to appeal his fine, and still refuses to pay. Nascar said they will take it out of his winnings this weekend :flame:
i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll
I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation. If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you. This is an example of Nascar out of control. Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 14, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll
I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation. If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you. This is an example of Nascar out of control. Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.
While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 15, 2013, 08:14:26 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 14, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll
I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation. If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you. This is an example of Nascar out of control. Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.
While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.
Dumb fine however na$car did warn all the drivers not to be negative about the new car over the winter.
Regardless of the outcome of the 11 cars fine the message is now clear we won't be hearing anything negative about the new car anymore.
Gordon done a number on his and Kenseth's cars :lol: Blown tire is the culprit. Should have got 4 on that last pitstop
got home late, what happened to tony??? kenseth was fast. too bad for him.
Stewart had a flat tire and backed it into the wall.
ah, ok.
I know quite a few guys don't like Hendrick cars, but I'm glad Kayne won. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: And with Johnson and Gordon putting it in the wall, made for an even sweeter day :2thumbs:
Well, my roster done good today :2thumbs:
A little dispute between Logano and Hamlin :lol:
Just happy Johnson crashed too :lol:
I'm probably never gonna get used to Matt being in the 20 car
Bryan
i know, it just doesnt look right.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 17, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
Gordon done a number on his and Kenseth's cars :lol: Blown tire is the culprit. Should have got 4 on that last pitstop
Yeah, Too bad about Kenseth, He was running fast.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 16, 2013, 05:14:27 AM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 15, 2013, 08:14:26 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 14, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll
I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation. If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you. This is an example of Nascar out of control. Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.
While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.
Dumb fine however na$car did warn all the drivers not to be negative about the new car over the winter.
Regardless of the outcome of the 11 cars fine the message is now clear we won't be hearing anything negative about the new car anymore.
or either Earnhart Sr./Jr. repeatedly, especiallty Dale Sr. when he didn't like something..
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 17, 2013, 03:09:07 PM
A little dispute between Logano and Hamlin :lol:
I would just call it Hamlin wrecking #22 Logano :Twocents: , Hamlin said "he ment to hit him, but didn't mean to spin him", yeah right...LOL....
From the way they're talking, sounds like Logano is already plotting revenge :lol: I bet Hamlin wins this dispute. :popcrn: and Logano comes away :bawling:
What a finish!!!!!!!!! Congrats to Kyle Busch :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Hope Hamlin is ok. He took a hard lick battling Logano for the lead.
Fight between Logano and Stewart :lol: Logano isn't making friends this year
Hamlin appears to be OK but He is being transported to the hospital.
That was The most exciting finish I've seen in a long time.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on March 24, 2013, 05:44:17 PM
Hamlin appears to be OK but He is being transported to the hospital.
That was most exciting finish I've seen in a long time.
very good race
By the way Tony's talking, Logano isn't gonna do well next week at Martinsville.
yep decent race, I didn't get to see most of it but saw the last 10 laps...
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 24, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
By the way Tony's talking, Logano isn't gonna do well next week at Martinsville.
:2thumbs: Tony looked & sounded pissed...
Logano is a tool as well...he just made my same list as the 24 & 48 cars...I hope he has a target on his back for the rest of the year...he deserves what he gets from now on
Bryan
Quote from: Budnicks on March 24, 2013, 06:07:43 PM
yep decent race, I didn't get to see most of it but saw the last 10 laps...
then you caught the best racing of the day :D
logano is definately not making friends. before the race they said people will keep pushing on logano until he hits one of them. i think a few of them need to hit him. he whines and is close to becoming a cry baby gordon clone. last year he cried that people (ryan newman for one) were racing too hard. good for tony for trying to get a punch or two in.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 24, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
By the way Tony's talking, Logano isn't gonna do well next week at Martinsville.
I hope not, I can't stand him :P
Quotes from Tony on Twitter:
"it's time he learns a lesson, he's run his mouth long enough...he's nothing but a little rich kid that's never had to work in his life so he's gonna lean what us working guys who had to work our way up how it works"
and...
"If he ever turns down across in front of me again, I don't care what lap it is, he won't make it to the other end of it."
and...
"What the hell do you think I was mad about. Dumb little son-of-a-[bleep] runs us clear down to the infield. He wants to [bleep] about everybody else and he's the one who drives like a little [bleep]. I'm going to bust his ass."
Not a fan of either.....
but think Tony should look at some clips of his own driving at Talladega last year....
Can't stand a hypocrite.
How unprofessional of tony Stewart once again. What a douche bag crybabyass loser. He needs to be fined and his lic suspended a few races to get his attitude adjusted. Come at me like he did and I'd kick his ass.
I thought the race was great. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary regarding Joey and Denny. Now, I really like Tony, but Joey was protecting his position for a 1st place run... Tony's done it himself ( he was hot under the collar for sure )........... It is time for Joey to make it clear he'll not be run over.........
:2thumbs:
Kinda wonder what Nascar is going to do.....
Fine Hamlin for critizing the car......and let Tony get away with all he said?
well, im a tony fan of sorts. being that im a huge ryan newman fan and tony moved him over to his team. harvick next year, but back to the subject,
now im not a kurt bush fan, but he really got in trouble for language with reporters.
and i understand he also went farther and was a bit out of control, but it shows what can be said under pressure at the end of a race. i wonder if tony will be talked to???
Tony is like Dale Sr. He'll get away with it. Anybody remember when was the last time Tony got penalized for anything outside of pitroad penalties or car infractions? I say it was at least a decade ago.
I looked and couldn't find anything. There is a lot of people wondering why Tony didn't get penalized for a lot of altercations throughout the years.
Hamlin has compression fracture in lower back
Sounds like he is going to be out for a while :rotz:
"Denny Hamlin suffered a compression fracture in his lower spine during Sunday's last-lap crash at Fontana, Calif., his racing team said Monday.
Joe Gibbs Racing disclosed the injury and said Hamlin was expected to be released soon from a Southern California hospital to return home. He has what is called an L1 compression fracture; essentially, the first vertebra in the lumbar section of his spine collapsed.
There was no immediate word on how long his recovery would take. JGR said he will be evaluated by Dr. Jerry Petty of Carolina Neurosurgery and Spine Associates later this week. The injury is a bit more common in open-wheel racing, which has had three incidents of drivers breaking their backs since 2009."
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-compression-fracture-lower-back-185147219--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-compression-fracture-lower-back-185147219--nascar.html)
Logano seems like a punk....I don't know him personally.
I've been around Stewart and he's kind of a dick to people....and he think's that the world revolves around him:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-blocking-aficionado-ticked-joey-logano-blocking-005903978--nascar.html
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 24, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
logano is definately not making friends. before the race they said people will keep pushing on logano until he hits one of them. i think a few of them need to hit him. he whines and is close to becoming a cry baby gordon clone. last year he cried that people (ryan newman for one) were racing too hard. good for tony for trying to get a punch or two in.
Amen to that :2thumbs:
I am a Tony fan. Loved his reaction to Joey. I figure the biggest thing is that Tony ended up falling way back after that and he is already having a poor start to the season so he is just frustrated with everything in general right now.
EVERY DRIVER OUT THERE IS A HYPOCRITE. They all remember who crossed them but never remember who they crossed. :icon_smile_big:
Also, I think Tony was fined a couple years ago at Daytona when him and Kurt Busch were beatin' and bangin' during practice. I thought some reporters said Tony punched Kurt right in the Nascar hauler and was fined for it, but nobody came out and said it was for that.
If Hamlin is out, I bet Elliot Sadler will be in the 11 next week. Brian Scott is the other Gibbs driver, but I doubt they will risk his Rookie of the Year opportunity.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 25, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
If Hamlin is out, I bet Elliot Sadler will be in the 11 next week. Brian Scott is the other Gibbs driver, but I doubt they will risk his Rookie of the Year opportunity.
Next week is an off week so he has 2 weeks to decide what to do.
If its serious out for a few months if he can deal with the pain maybe not miss any races but could start and bail for a few weeks.
Thanks for the correction. I keep forgetting about Easter. :brickwall:
I am betting he will be out a while, sounds like he is thinking the same thing. From Jayski. . . .
Denny Hamlin walked out of Loma Linda University Medical Center on Monday night under his own power, one day after sustaining a fractured L1 vertebra in a crash at Auto Club Speedway. Hamlin, wearing a thick back brace under a gray sweatshirt, had difficulty breathing as he spoke to two reporters, including one from USA TODAY Sports, upon his release. Hamlin said he immediately knew "I was in big trouble" after he felt a pop in his back following a violent collision with the wall the result of a crash triggered by contact with rival Joey Logano as the two raced for the win on the final lap. "The position I was in, I couldn't breathe at all," Hamlin said. "I'm still having a hard time breathing. Literally, when I felt a pop, I couldn't move at all and I knew I had to get flat to my back to be able to breathe again. That's why I rushed out and just laid flat on the ground to start breathing again." Hamlin, who was en route to fly home to North Carolina, said he had to be 100% straight no bending at all. Otherwise, he said, "I run out of breath." Though it's too early to tell whether Hamlin will miss any races, he seemed to understand there was a lengthy recovery in front of him. He tried to read up on the injury, he said, and nothing was very encouraging. Hamlin said he will meet with Dr. Jerry Petty near Charlotte on Wednesday or Thursday for further evaluation. "He's going to spend tomorrow looking at scans to distinguish what the next step is," Hamlin said. "We're kind of leaving the analyzing for him on what to do either surgery-wise or just stick with a brace and let it heal itself. Either way, obviously, both of them take a lot of time."
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 25, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Tony is like Dale Sr. He'll get away with it. Anybody remember when was the last time Tony got penalized for anything outside of pitroad penalties or car infractions? I say it was at least a decade ago.
I looked and couldn't find anything. There is a lot of people wondering why Tony didn't get penalized for a lot of altercations throughout the years.
You called it correct. Tony will get away with it.
I like Nascar less. Good finish.....but every time they do something like fine Hamlin and let the Hendrick boys do what they like.....I become less a fan. Less likely to spend $$$ at a Nascar track. More likely to spend $$$ at a NHRA track.
No penalties per NASCAR.
hey NASCAR said have it boys, I think it all starts there... 1st the sanctioning body is to blame for allot of the off track altercation... :Twocents:
Hamlin Out An Estimated Six Weeks
Denny Hamlin will not need surgery but is sidelined indefinitely...
http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-hamlin-out-an-estimated-six-weeks/ (http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-hamlin-out-an-estimated-six-weeks/)
The 11 car could be a quality ride for someone for 6 weeks
I hope they give the ride to vickers but sadiler may get it because of the deal vickers has with the 55.
Sadler will probably get it a Martinsville. Vickers will probably fill in in the other races. Time will tell :popcrn:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 27, 2013, 03:49:47 AM
The 11 car could be a quality ride for someone for 6 weeks
I hope they give the ride to vickers but sadiler may get it because of the deal vickers has with the 55.
Vickers would be a great choice, the kid can drive. I like Sadler, he just never was able to do much in cup.
Sam Hornish Jr. or Allmendinger should also be on the short list. AJ is already driven the races for the 51 he was going to run. But both these guys are signed with Penske, no telling what Roger may say.
Looks like iMark Martin gets the 11 car why Hamlin is out.
This makes sence Mark can run up front and win races keeping the owner points for the 11 in chase range.
I wonder what we don't know? Will Denny be out longer than they are saying? Could be and that's why they wanted Martin who can earn driver points, he is 25 th in points now but only 36 points away from 12 th he can easily make that up and if he wins he can run in the chase as long as he is higher than 20 th in points no matter what car he is in.
The 11 or the 55.
They are similar in size so if Denny does do any start and switch stuff they won't have to much to change in the car.
With all the differant ways to get into the chase the 11 car may run for the owners championship with denny or mark and Mark could run for the drivers in the 55 or the 11.
Get your Richmond tickets boys it just got interesting come chase time. :popcrn:
Kinda odd since Mark don't like Martinsville. I'm glad I didn't put any money on Sadler in the 11.
If I remember right, Mark has a lot of wins though at Martinsville. I think it was even name Markinsville for a while.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 27, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 27, 2013, 03:49:47 AM
The 11 car could be a quality ride for someone for 6 weeks
I hope they give the ride to vickers but sadiler may get it because of the deal vickers has with the 55.
Vickers would be a great choice, the kid can drive. I like Sadler, he just never was able to do much in cup.
Sam Hornish Jr. or Allmendinger should also be on the short list. AJ is already driven the races for the 51 he was going to run. But both these guys are signed with Penske, no telling what Roger may say.
yeah I'd like to see Sam Hornish Jr. too
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 29, 2013, 09:00:07 AM
If I remember right, Mark has a lot of wins though at Martinsville. I think it was even name Markinsville for a while.
:2thumbs: :slap:
Wonder also if it has something to do with the fact that Mark has a lot more "common sense" about him and that he won't go after Logano like many of the other drivers would.
I don't know...Logano's still a turd..always has been, always will be in my mind....even before the wreck with Hamlin, I never cared for him...snot nosed bratty punk assed kid who whines & crys every time someone touches him on the track...kinda reminds me of Jeff Gordon
I hope Mark does the team well
Bryan
Maybe it's more about job secuarty for Denny???
Mark dosent want the 11 car next year full time, all the others mentioned would love that ride full time. :scratchchin:
Well, Mark doesn't need the money. He still races because he loves racing. I met him when he used to live in Wisconsin a few years before he got started in cup. He is a awesome guy.
Makes Me wonder, If Mark takes the 11 car while Denny is out will He still be a few weeks on and a few weeks off like He is in the 55.
And if so Who would be the second driver in the 11 car?
They are now saying Martin for Martinsville only, then Vickers will drive the #11 until Hamlin returns.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 29, 2013, 08:27:51 PM
They are now saying Martin for Martinsville only, then Vickers will drive the #11 until Hamlin returns.
Yep sounds like somebody didn't want mark out of the 55 (Aaron s maybe?)
UPDATE 5: Joe Gibbs Racing announces that Brian Vickers will take over behind the wheel of the #11 FedEx Toyota Camry in the Sprint Cup Series for the injured Denny Hamlin starting on April 13 at Texas Motor Speedway. It was previously released that Mark Martin would handle the duties behind the wheel for the #11 Joe Gibbs Racing team while Denny Hamlin recovered from injury. Martin will drive the car in Martinsville, but Vickers will now take over the duties beginning in Texas. "Obviously having to find someone to fill in for Denny is not an ideal situation to have to be in and when you start a process like this you obviously begin to look at the drivers that are not only available but also able to drive for your race team and manufacturer. We were a bit premature in determining Mark's status past Martinsville however," said J.D. Gibbs, president of Joe Gibbs Racing
and
"I think it is great that a driver of Mark's caliber is available to support our fellow Toyota team during this difficult time for them," Waltrip said in a statement. "We wish Denny a speedy recovery. Mark is a big part of our organization and committed to our sponsors, especially Aaron's and Toyota. We have a lot of goals yet to reach this year, and we are very focused on accomplishing them."
On Sirius XM NASCAR Radio on Friday, Waltrip said, "We agreed that Mark would drive (the No. 11) at Martinsville, and we were working through what it would look like after that. For some reason, before we got it all figured out, a press release was put out. I guess it said that Mark would drive it until Denny was better, and that just wasn't what we agreed to yet."
Mikey's an idiot...
Quote from: A383Wing on March 30, 2013, 06:24:53 PM
Mikey's an idiot...
he and his brother both , lord knows why they force them on us on TV
oh and i would wish and injury on anyone but I do not like the snarky little weisel Hamlin at all .
I agree about Mike, but I think Darrel is alright. He adds a little character to the broadcasts that makes it appealing to the newer fans. Mike is more of an imitator. He just mimics every other broadcaster and racecar driver and does both poorly. His Aarons commercials are even worse :eek2:
i seen them both on a prerace show one time. mikey wasnt racing in this race. a conversation came up and mikey was wanting to drill nascar for their poor way of dealing with a situation. he was dancing around the subject only saying what he could without being in deep trouble. finally he got pissed and just shut up. darrel didnt help him, didnt side with him, just left him out there to fend for himself. darrel :rotz: is so far up nascars backside that he wont do anything against them.
I believe he was a pain in their rear when he was racing :lol: But, he added a lot of excitement to Nascar in the 80's
they both need to go away
right. :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on March 31, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
they both need to go away
[/quote :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: and they just say the stupidest stuff
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 31, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
darrel :rotz: is so far up nascars backside that he wont do anything against them.
Bud Moore, a long-time Ford team owner was once asked about the lean years where things didn't quite go his way - and perhaps that NASCAR racing wasn't always fair. His answer was very to the point. He said:
"It is hard to complain when you are eating steak."
Quote from: Aero426 on April 01, 2013, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 31, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
darrel :rotz: is so far up nascars backside that he wont do anything against them.
Bud Moore, a long-time Ford team owner was once asked about the lean years where things didn't quite go his way - and perhaps that NASCAR racing wasn't always fair. His answer was very to the point. He said: "It is hard to complain when you are eating steak."
ride the gravy train while you can . :D
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 31, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
i seen them both on a prerace show one time. mikey wasnt racing in this race. a conversation came up and mikey was wanting to drill nascar for their poor way of dealing with a situation. he was dancing around the subject only saying what he could without being in deep trouble. finally he got pissed and just shut up. darrel didnt help him, didnt side with him, just left him out there to fend for himself. darrel :rotz: is so far up nascars backside that he wont do anything against them.
Bingo we have a winner :2thumbs:, I personally like Mikey a whole lot better than his Motor Mouth Brother Darrel... :Twocents:
Found this on Jayski's. They are cutting the number of seats at all the tracks. It started in 2010. Hard to read the attendance list below but you can see 2012 is on the left and it reads over to 2007 on the right. Example: MIS peaked at 145,000 and had only 82,000 last year. That's over 50,000 less fans!!!!!!!! Bristol was down 40,000 fans.
Race Track,
Location,
Lap Distance,
Year Opened Permanent
Seating
(reported by track) 2012
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race 2011
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race 2010
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race 2009
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race 2008
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race 2007
Announced
Attendance1st race2nd race
Atlanta Motor Speedway
Hampton, GA
1.54 miles
1960 99,000
was 124,000 90,300 29,700 (G)(H11) 85,00093,200 94,400111,300 100,00080,000 105,000100,000
Auto Club Speedway
Fontana, CA
2 miles
1997 84,000 [was 95,000] 90,000 88,000 (F) 72,00070,000 78,00070,000 25,000(a)
71,00070,000 87,00085,000
Bristol Motor Speedway
Bristol, TN
0.533-mile
1961 158,000 102,000
145,000 120,000156,000 138,000155,000 160,000160,000 160,000160,000 160,000160,000
Charlotte Motor Speedway
Concord, NC
1.5 miles
1960 146,000
was 156,000 132,000 (all-star)
140,000
100,000 125,000 (all-star)
145,000
105,000 125,000 (all-star)140,000
103,000 145,000 (all-star)100,000 (A)
160,000105,000 147,000 (all-star)160,000160,000 145,000(all-star)175,000165,000
Chicagoland Speedway
Joliet, IL
1.5 miles
2001 69,000 [was 73,000] 65,000 42,000 (I11) 67,500 70,000 80,000 80,000
Darlington Raceway
Darlington, SC
1.366 miles
1950 60,000 [was 61,000] 63,000 61,000 67,000 72,000 75,000 70,000(b)
75,000
Daytona International Speedway
Daytona Beach, FL
2.5 miles
1959 147,000 [was 159,000] 140,000 (A12)115,000
82,000
(Shootout) 180,000115,00080,000
(Shootout) 175,000115,00085,000
(Shootout) 180,000115,00080,000
(Shootout) 190,000125,000?
(Shootout) 185,000150,000?
(Shootout)
Dover International Speedway
Dover, DE
1 mile
1969 133,000 85,00085,000 82,00083,000 88,00088,000 100,000110,000 133,000133,000 90,000
145,000(a)137,000
Homestead-Miami Speedway
Homestead, FL
1.5 miles
1995 57,000 [was 63,000] 76,000 73,000 67,000 70,000 80,000 80,000
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Indianapolis, IN
2.5 miles
1909 257,325 125,000 138,000 140,000 180,000 240,000 270,000
Kansas Speedway
Kansas City, KS
1.5 miles
2001 72,000 [was 80,000] 75,00078,000 80,00082,000 100,000 100,000 100,000 110,000
Kentucky Speedway
Sparta, KY
1.5 miles
2011 117,000 105,000 107,000
Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Las Vegas, NV
1.5 miles
1996 131,000 150,000 152,000 150,000 140,000 153,000 156,000
Martinsville Speedway
Martinsville, VA
0.526-mile
1947 55,000 [was 63,000] 63,00060,000 60,00062,000 40,000 (E)
58,00056,000 63,00064,000 63,00064,000 66,50066,500
Michigan International Speedway
Brooklyn, MI
2 miles
1968 84,000
[was 108,000 thru 2011] 82,00083,000 88,00081,000 95,000105,000 90,000103,000 115,000125,000 145,00040,000
145,000(a)
New Hampshire Motor Speedway
Loudon, NH
1.058 miles
1990 96,000 95,00098,000 95,00095,000 91,00095,000 101,000101,000 101,000101,000 101,000101,000
Phoenix International Raceway
Avondale, AZ
1 mile
1964 55,000 [was 76,812] 76,00087,000 75,00085,000 70,00075,000 80,00090,000 100,000100,000 105,000105,000
Pocono Raceway
Long Pond, PA
2.5 miles
1968 70,000 100,00085,000 90,00085,000 105,000100,000 105,00080,000
(B) 105,000 105,000100,000 105,000130,000
Richmond International Raceway
Richmond, VA
0.750-mile
1946 91,000
was 110,000 88,00089,000 90,00088,000 93,00095,000 110,000108,000 112,000110,000 112,079(b)
100,000112,079
Sonoma*
Sonoma, CA
1.99 mile
1968 47,000 91,000 93,000 90,000 93,500 100,000 102,000
Talladega Superspeedway
Talladega, AL
2.66 miles
1969 109,000
was 143,000 108,50088,000 115,000105,000 123,500110,000 142,000127,500 156,000145,000 160,000155,000
Texas Motor Speedway
Fort Worth, TX
1.5 miles
1997 138,122 159,000
146,000 168,400151,000 92,200 (D)156,000 176,300167,000 190,000165,000 191,000183,500
Watkins Glen International*
Watkins Glen, NY
2.45 miles
1948 33,000 [was 35,000] 90,000 85,000 (G11) 90,000 80,000
(C) 85,000 87,000 90,000
Tracks No Longer
Used for Sprint Cup races
North Carolina Speedway
Rockingham, NC
1.017 miles
1965 60,000 x; x x x x x
Kurt Busch really had a bad day today. Done everything but end up on his lid :rotz:
This race sucks so far
Quote from: A383Wing on April 07, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
This race sucks so far
Are you talking about in general, or just because JJ is leading? It is only and always has been a one lane track.
Hat's off to Danica for finishing 12 :2thumbs:
crap!
yep, sucky race. danica was the only highlight. she did pretty good. but, sucky race. :rotz:
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 07, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
yep, sucky race. danica was the only highlight. she did pretty good. but, sucky race. :rotz:
Absolutely a dominating performance by Johnson. I am not one of his fans, but he has his mojo working, esp at that race track.
Danica in 12th was the highest of all three Stewart cars. They seem to be struggling as a team.
Harvick's spinning Vickers on the cool down lap diva like. Sure he was blocked, but it's short track racing at Martinsville!
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 07, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
yep, sucky race. danica was the only highlight. she did pretty good. but, sucky race. :rotz:
yeah gotta' admit, not much to watch in general, just another all JJ show, one lane racing is just boring as hell
Quote from: Budnicks on April 08, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 07, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
yep, sucky race. danica was the only highlight. she did pretty good. but, sucky race. :rotz:
yeah gotta' admit, not much to watch in general, just another all JJ show, one lane racing is just boring as hell
I love one lane racing if the drivers are there to race and root each other out of the lane to get a spot. Hell, Bowyer wouldn't even bump JJ going in to turn one on the last restart to try and get the lead. Very little beatin' n' bangin' any more. Guess they are going to have to ruin Martinsville now like they ruined Bristol and put the gradual banking in so these primma donnas can race without touching each other. ::)
Quote from: General_01 on April 08, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 08, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 07, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
yep, sucky race. danica was the only highlight. she did pretty good. but, sucky race. :rotz:
yeah gotta' admit, not much to watch in general, just another all JJ show, one lane racing is just boring as hell
I love one lane racing if the drivers are there to race and root each other out of the lane to get a spot. Hell, Bowyer wouldn't even bump JJ going in to turn one on the last restart to try and get the lead. Very little beatin' n' bangin' any more. Guess they are going to have to ruin Martinsville now like they ruined Bristol and put the gradual banking in so these primma donnas can race without touching each other. ::)
I think Boywer took a beating last year from going 3 wide at Martinsville. I don't blame him for not hitting JJ, but I sure wish he did give it a try.
I woulda given him a dollar to do it
Bryan
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 07, 2013, 03:57:26 PM
Hat's off to Danica for finishing 12 :2thumbs:
I will give a hat tip to Mark Martin, freaking fifty four years old, dropped into a pick up-ride and finishes 10th at a demanding short track.
Quote from: A383Wing on April 08, 2013, 05:02:23 PM
I woulda given him a dollar to do it
Bryan
I'd have added to the pot. :yesnod:
I do like Martin.
I don't like short tracks.
Top speed 98 MPH??
Next Saturday night TMS and I have tickets.
Cant wait for some 200 MPH racing.
:2thumbs:
Hall of Fame list got revealed today for next year.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 10, 2013, 05:13:17 PM
Hall of Fame list got revealed today for next year.
I like seeing Maurice Petty, great NASCAR/Grand National engine builder for many cars, on that list of perspective inductee's... he has 7 Championships to his name too... :Twocents:
I do hope Maurice makes it this year. Fireball needs to be in there as well.
Kevin Harvick blows up in practice. He'll be in the back of the pack for a while.
I wish!!
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 12, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
I do hope Maurice makes it this year. Fireball needs to be in there as well.
Kevin Harvick blows up in practice. He'll be in the back of the pack for a while.
yeah :2thumbs: Fireball Roberts would be a great HOF inductee too.... I have Kevin Harvick in my NASCAR Pick Em' game, as my qualifier pick, then Brad K & Tony Stewart as my race runners, over on another forum, I had been doing pretty well, with those 3 guys so far...
I do the fantasy Nascar deal. My picks will probably be Biffle, BK, Kyle Busch. I haven't decided who else is good at Texas. More than likely, they'll be Fords. They do well at mile and a halfs.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 12, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
I do the fantasy Nascar deal. My picks will probably be Biffle, BK, Kyle Busch. I haven't decided who else is good at Texas. More than likely, they'll be Fords. They do well at mile and a halfs.
sound good... I got lazy :brickwall: & didn't know if I could remember or be around, to pick my guys every race week, I didn't want to get hammered for losing a week or points, because of being gone, not getting my picks in &/or forgetting to post, so I just "
locked those 3 in" as my guys :shruggy: ....
On the Fantasy deal, you can keep the same guys each week. They stay locked in until you change them. I change them regularly just because there's not one driver that is good enough at all tracks to stay with. You get to log in 5 registries with 5 drivers per registry. It's just something else to watch while watching a dull race or commercials. Just have to have your drivers picked before the green flag.
that's kind of why I did the Pick Em' game too, no MoPar's/Dodge's any more, I need to have to have something to keep my interest, just do it for the fun, I can change them too, I just have been doing pretty well... we get an average of our picks, so if one guy finishes 15th & another finishes 5th = 20pts/dived by 2 = 10, so I get the points for tenth place, on both guys & my qualifier picks, 1-pt for 1st & 43-pt's for last, lowest points at the season end, wins a little 1/8 or 1/16 scale 426ci Hemi S/S engine {I think is the prize, it's nothen' to speak of really worth $25-$40 maybe} so I've kind of just stuck with them, so far... been thinken' of using Kyle Busch for a while too, so I have a Ford, Chevy & Toyota, Instead of a Ford & 2 Chevy's, we'll see after this race maybe... our picks, needs to be in before qualifying....
Gordon's in the garage... :2thumbs:
doing the happy dance now :boogie:
Bryan
got that right. :boogie:
ryan got a top 10 after being a lap down.
and im definately not a kyle busch fan, but you gotta give it to the kid. he can friggin drive a race car.
and Edwards got 3rd after all he went through :2thumbs:
Well, good night on the Fantasy racing :2thumbs: Picked Kyle Busch, Biffle, BK, and Almirola, all of which scored Top 10 finishes and a victory.
Pretty good race all around. JJ didn't hardly lead at all, Jr. had bad luck, Gordon had bad luck, and Stewart spun out on pit road. Not bad at all :2thumbs:
Felt sorry for Truex....he really tried to win....but Kyle had the restart nailed and was not gonna give it up.
Only 6 races in..anything can happen
The last pitstop killed his chances. All Kyle needed was to burp the throttle to get out of his pits. Truex had to dodge traffic. Maybe he'll do good at Kansas
Personally, I think choosing pit stalls is a bad idea. What I think should happen is like a lottery drawing. Once all the qualifying is done, all the car numbers go into one drum, all the pit stall numbers go into another....then spin them both and randomly match a car with a pit stall. Lets see how good these guys really are.
Bryan
Why not just extend the pit road line to where the last guy has to get up to speed as everyone else? It'd work at most tracks. That's my biggest complaint.
One things for sure, Kenseth had a hot stop and Stewart needs to practice his stops. :lol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Why not just extend the pit road line to where the last guy has to get up to speed as everyone else? It'd work at most tracks. That's my biggest complaint.
Not a bad idea at all. :2thumbs: Would even it out.
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on April 13, 2013, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Why not just extend the pit road line to where the last guy has to get up to speed as everyone else? It'd work at most tracks. That's my biggest complaint.
Not a bad idea at all. :2thumbs: Would even it out.
A perk from qualifying well. If you want the best pit stall, qualify with the best time. Simple.
It was so boring, I pretty much just had the tv on for sound ::)
My Wife and I went to the race along with 9 other Friends.
The tail gate party was a blast, The race was boring as hell.
I did enjoy the sound and the smell of the cars.
Next week, Kansas. Just expect the same results as last night. :brickwall:
Medical examiner says man shot self at NASCAR race
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- A medical examiner says a man who died in the infield during a NASCAR race at Texas Motor Speedway shot himself in the head.
The Tarrant County medical examiner's office on Sunday said the death of 42-year-old Kirk Franklin of Saginaw was a suicide.
Fort Worth police have said a man who was camping in the infield died of a ''self-inflicted injury'' after getting into an argument with other campers. The incident happened late in the Sprint Cup race.
Police spokeswoman Cpl. Tracey Knight has said alcohol may have been a factor. Knight said several people witnessed the incident, but nobody was in danger.
Track spokesman Mike Zizzo say the death occurred ''in or around a pickup truck'' in part of the infield near the middle of the backstretch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html)
at least he didn't wound or kill anyone else?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Why not just extend the pit road line to where the last guy has to get up to speed as everyone else? It'd work at most tracks. That's my biggest complaint.
One things for sure, Kenseth had a hot stop and Stewart needs to practice his stops. :lol:
:slap: Stewart had way too much rear brake bias because of ill handling, why he spun supposedly... :Twocents:
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 14, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Medical examiner says man shot self at NASCAR race
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- A medical examiner says a man who died in the infield during a NASCAR race at Texas Motor Speedway shot himself in the head.
The Tarrant County medical examiner's office on Sunday said the death of 42-year-old Kirk Franklin of Saginaw was a suicide.
Fort Worth police have said a man who was camping in the infield died of a ''self-inflicted injury'' after getting into an argument with other campers. The incident happened late in the Sprint Cup race.
Police spokeswoman Cpl. Tracey Knight has said alcohol may have been a factor. Knight said several people witnessed the incident, but nobody was in danger.
Track spokesman Mike Zizzo say the death occurred ''in or around a pickup truck'' in part of the infield near the middle of the backstretch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html)
:hah: Crazy freaken' Liberal, trying to be a Martyr for the left/liberals anti-gun cause, get more negative gun news... it was a NRA Sponsored race, just my thoughts.... :Twocents:
Never thought of liberals as the "martyr" types......
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 14, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Medical examiner says man shot self at NASCAR race
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- A medical examiner says a man who died in the infield during a NASCAR race at Texas Motor Speedway shot himself in the head.
The Tarrant County medical examiner's office on Sunday said the death of 42-year-old Kirk Franklin of Saginaw was a suicide.
Fort Worth police have said a man who was camping in the infield died of a ''self-inflicted injury'' after getting into an argument with other campers. The incident happened late in the Sprint Cup race.
Police spokeswoman Cpl. Tracey Knight has said alcohol may have been a factor. Knight said several people witnessed the incident, but nobody was in danger.
Track spokesman Mike Zizzo say the death occurred ''in or around a pickup truck'' in part of the infield near the middle of the backstretch.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/medical-examiner-says-man-shot-215231232--nascar.html)
Wow thats exatly were I was sitting. I didn't here about this
NASCAR's title sponsor, Sprint Nextel, is takeover target
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-nascar-sprint-dish-softbank-20130415,0,6757107.story (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-nascar-sprint-dish-softbank-20130415,0,6757107.story)
NASCAR's title sponsor, Sprint Nextel Corp. is in the middle of a takeover battle.
Dish Network Corp. on Monday made an unsolicited $25.5-billion offer to buy Sprint, which already had agreed to merge with SoftBank Corp., a Japanese telecommunications company.
Regardless of which company prevails in buying Sprint, it raises the question of whether the change in control could affect the company's title sponsorship of NASCAR's top-tier Sprint Cup Series.
It's too soon to tell because the answer would depend on the new owner's willingness to stay invested in NASCAR. Also, Sprint last year renewed its naming-rights deal with NASCAR through 2016, so there's a contract in place for another three-plus years.
NASCAR, Dodge, Earnhardt Ganassi Racing, comeback in '14?
Have you heard the latest...that Dodge might yet be coming back to NASCAR's Sprint Cup Series next season...with quite a shake-up resulting from a rumored switch by Earnhardt Ganassi Racing from the Bowtie to Dodge?
First, you have to believe that there will be some kind of association with Richard Childress Racing. Since Menard's son runs for RCR, you could see John Menard become the owner of Paul Menard's team, with chassis and engines coming from Richard Childress Racing, and Juan Pablo Montoya moving over to RCR's operation in 2014.
However, that's not the only interesting piece to the rumor.
http://blogs.moparmusclemagazine.com/6797827/miscellaneous/nascar-dodge-earnhardt-ganassi-racing-comeback-in-14/ (http://blogs.moparmusclemagazine.com/6797827/miscellaneous/nascar-dodge-earnhardt-ganassi-racing-comeback-in-14/)
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 16, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
NASCAR, Dodge, Earnhardt Ganassi Racing, comeback in '14?
Have you heard the latest...that Dodge might yet be coming back to NASCAR's Sprint Cup Series next season...with quite a shake-up resulting from a rumored switch by Earnhardt Ganassi Racing from the Bowtie to Dodge?
First, you have to believe that there will be some kind of association with Richard Childress Racing. Since Menard's son runs for RCR, you could see John Menard become the owner of Paul Menard's team, with chassis and engines coming from Richard Childress Racing, and Juan Pablo Montoya moving over to RCR's operation in 2014.
However, that's not the only interesting piece to the rumor.
http://blogs.moparmusclemagazine.com/6797827/miscellaneous/nascar-dodge-earnhardt-ganassi-racing-comeback-in-14/ (http://blogs.moparmusclemagazine.com/6797827/miscellaneous/nascar-dodge-earnhardt-ganassi-racing-comeback-in-14/)
hopefully they will come back next year, something better to watch for... Mopar or no car
Penalties from Nascar
NASCAR on Wednesday came down hard on Keselowski and Penske Racing teammate Joey Logano for technical violations discovered before last Saturday night's race at Texas Motor Speedway, docking each driver 25 championship points and unleashing a flurry of suspensions that includes both crew chiefs.
As a result, Keselowski's crew chief Paul Wolfe has been fined $100,000 and suspended for the next six Sprint Cup events -- including the non-points Sprint All-Star Race. Car chief Jerry Kelley, team engineer Brian Wilson and Penske competition director Travis Geisler have been suspended for the same duration. Logano's crew chief Todd Gordon was also fined $100,000 and suspended six weeks. Car chief Raymond Fox and team engineer Samuel Stanley were suspended for the same length of time as well.
All the penalized Penske personnel are also on probation until Dec. 31. Keselowski and Logano were among three drivers penalized Wednesday for violations from Texas. Martin Truex Jr. was docked six championships points for his car being too low after last week's event, while crew chief Chad Johnston was fined $25,000 and placed on probation through June 5.
On another note, BK went to the White House ::)
dang man, they need to all get together and buddy up to rick hendrick and have him go in and tell them to retract all these fines and penalties. :shruggy: :D
My intrest in NAShendrickCAR continues to decline.
Westboro Baptist Church says it will picket Kansas Speedway
The controversial Westboro Baptist Church – known for its extreme prejudice of homosexuals and its conducting of anti-gay protests at various events, including funerals of American soldiers – will picket at the Kansas Speedway next month during a NASCAR weekend.
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/westboro-baptist-church-says-it-will-picket-kansas-speedway/ (http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/westboro-baptist-church-says-it-will-picket-kansas-speedway/)
Are they saying Nascar is homo?
I hope someone runs them over
dang that 25 points for Brad K. & Little whinner Joey L. & all the Penske team suspensions, IMHFO were a little too harsh, for just a rear axle camber/caster violation... never see those kind of penalties against Hendricks, Childress, Gibbs or Rousch teams
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 17, 2013, 04:03:00 PM
dang man, they need to all get together and buddy up to rick hendrick and have him go in and tell them to retract all these fines and penalties. :shruggy: :D
:cheers: yeah they probably should :2thumbs:
Quote from: Budnicks on April 18, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
dang that 25 points for Brad K. & Little whinner Joey L. & all the Penske team suspensions, IMHFO were a little too harsh, for just a rear axle camber/caster violation... never see those kind of penalties against Hendricks, Childress, Gibbs or Rousch teams
how true. :rotz:
Officer killed in Mass. brother of Hendrick worker
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/officer-killed-mass-brother-hendrick-164847638--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/officer-killed-mass-brother-hendrick-164847638--nascar.html)
Hendrick Motorsports was shaken by the news Friday that the MIT officer killed during the manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombing suspects was the brother of Andrew Collier, a machinist in its engine shop.
Sean Collier was found shot to death late Thursday in his vehicle in Cambridge, Mass. Authorities have said Collier was responding to a report of a disturbance when he was shot.
Petty: Someone undoubtedly snitched on Penske
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/petty-someone-undoubtedly-snitched-penske-154648333--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/petty-someone-undoubtedly-snitched-penske-154648333--nascar.html)
Richard Petty believes there's a snitch.
Petty told reporters Friday at Kansas Speedway that Brad Keselowski and Joey Logano had already passed ''two or three inspections and hadn't been caught,'' leading him to believe that someone must have told NASCAR about unapproved parts the two Penske Racing teams were using before last weekend's race at Texas Motor Speedway.
''Undoubtedly, someone told them what the Penske crew was doing,'' Petty said.
thanks TruckDriver that Petty, Penske snitch article was good....
Quote from: Budnicks on April 19, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
thanks TruckDriver that Petty, Penske snitch article was good....
probably someone at the Hendrick camp
Quote from: A383Wing on April 19, 2013, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 19, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
thanks TruckDriver that Petty, Penske snitch article was good....
probably someone at the Hendrick camp
You're probably right. BK was commenting on Hendrick cheating last year. It seems they might have learned about paybacks.
Quote from: A383Wing on April 19, 2013, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on April 19, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
thanks TruckDriver that Petty, Penske snitch article was good....
probably someone at the Hendrick camp
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: YUP
:slap: Jimmy Johnsons keeps saying "he's not the snitch, he didn't turn rat/snitch about the Penske team cheating, to the Nascar Officials", :hah: I guess if he says it enough times, someone will actually believe him... :shruggy:
Anyone notice when Brad was at the White House for winning his Championship LAST YEAR - the car there was a FORD! That sucks... :eek2:
Why would he promote last years car? Besides, who gives a darn that he went to the Peoples' House? That's just our celebrity making fans. I doubt that Brad was there looking for money to pay the fine.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 20, 2013, 11:41:17 PM
Why would he promote last years car? Besides, who gives a darn that he went to the Peoples' House? That's just our celebrity making fans. I doubt that Brad was there looking for money to pay the fine.
Point is that nobody cares what they drive anymore.
You just proved it. :cheers: :2thumbs:
And this, in my opinion, is why nascar is going into the shitter.... :Twocents:
interesting read
Ray Alexander, on hand for the LX-centric Spring Festival 8, reported that Ralph Gilles told him that NASCAR funding has been approved, and that Chrysler is talking to teams. While no details can be provided, because of the sensitivity of the negotiations, this is the first time a Chrysler official has confirmed that the company is working on a NASCAR re-entry.
Last month, Mr. Gilles told Allpar in New York, in answer to a question about NASCAR, "Oh my God, I can't talk about that right now. No comment on that."
Chrysler's return to NASCAR presumably remains contingent on being able to sign up competitive drivers and support crew (e.g. car and engine builders). NASCAR racing is highly competitive on the technical side, with unique requirements.
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2013/04/gilles-nascar-funding-approved?fb_source=pubv1
I read that.
Something up.....can't imagine that being said without some basic deal in place.
Cue RCR rumors.....
Lets hope they come back, I need something better to route for, I really don't like having to route for Ford's & Chevy's, in my 2013 Nascar Pick Em' contest... It will be nice to route for Dodge or SRT who ever they come back with/as, lets only hope it's all true, not the typical BS.... :Twocents:
Matt won from the pole... :2thumbs:
that's was actually a good race. Enough action to keep me from getting bored.
yea..I was impressed as well....didn't nod off once today
Bryan
Wished Kasey would have passed Matt, but both were on my roster. :woohoo: :woohoo: Unfortunately, I had Kyle Busch as well :icon_smile_blackeye:
Dodge back for 2014 maybe not
NASCAR funding story off target: Yesterday [Sunday], Allpar broke the news that Ralph Gilles had confirmed Chrysler's funding of NASCAR racing again. Unfortunately, while Mr. Gilles did say that funding for NASCAR had been approved, he was referring to the reasons why Dodge left NASCAR shortly before winning the championship last year, in essence saying that the budget was there for another season, but there were other reasons for leaving. In short, Mr. Gilles was quoted with the correct words but in the wrong context.
A Chrysler spokesman wrote, "Chrysler Group's decision to leave NASCAR competition at the end of the 2012 season was based solely on not being able to develop the correct structure to fit our overall business and competitive objectives." At the time Chrysler withdrew, Mr. Gilles said that Penske had offered a "one-stop shop" for engines, drivers, and sponsors that could not be replaced in a way that would allow SRT to race at the level that was desired, in the time available. Mr. Gilles was contacted by the spokesman, and confirmed that he did not say that funding had been approved for a new run, but was saying that funding had been approved for the current season, when other factors caused the company to withdraw.(allpar.com)(4-22-2013)
NASCAR to use group qualifying at road courses
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-group-qualifying-road-courses-004341107--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-group-qualifying-road-courses-004341107--nascar.html)
Major penalty for Kenseth after engine failed post race inspection. Posted from Nascar.
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Penalties have been handed down to the No. 20 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series team as a result of rule violations discovered in the post-race engine inspection April 23 at the NASCAR Research and Development Center.
KENSETH WINS STP 400 IN KANSAS
The No. 20 car was found to have violated Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4J (any determination by NASCAR officials that the race equipment used in the event does not conform to NASCAR rules); and 20-5.5.3 (E) (Only magnetic steel connecting rods with a minimum weight of 525.0 grams will be permitted; connecting rod failed to meet the minimum connecting rod weight) of the 2013 rule book.
As a result of this violation, NASCAR has assessed the following penalties:
• Crew chief Jason Ratcliff has been fined $200,000 and suspended from NASCAR until the completion of the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship points events (a period of time that also includes the non-points NASCAR Sprint All-Star Race) and placed on probation until Dec. 31.
• Car owner Joe Gibbs has lost 50 championship car owner points; the first-place finish from April 21 at Kansas Speedway will not earn bonus points toward the accumulated aggregate car owner points total after the completion of the first 26 events of the current season and will not be credited toward the eligibility for a car owner Wild Card position; has had the owner's license for the No. 20 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series car suspended until the completion of the next six championship points events, therefore being ineligible to receive championship car owner points during that period of time.
• Driver Matt Kenseth has lost 50 championship driver points; the Coors Light Pole award from April 19 at Kansas Speedway will not be allowed for eligibility into the 2014 Sprint Unlimited; the first-place finish from April 21 at Kansas Speedway will not earn bonus points toward the accumulated aggregate driver points total after the completion of the first 26 events of the current season and will not be credited toward the eligibility for a driver Wild Card position.
• The loss of five NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Manufacturer Championship points.
Wow Nascar isnt screwing around
and if Hendricks team did that, it would be swept under the rug and covered up....
Bryan
Turns out, Toyota put lighter rods in Kenseth's engine, 3 grams lighter. Maybe, Kayne would have won if Kenseth was legal.
Either way, Kenseth is running around just for the sponsors for the next 6 races.
Quote from: A383Wing on April 24, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
and if Hendricks team did that, it would be swept under the rug and covered up....
Bryan
I totally agree with you...
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 24, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on April 24, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
and if Hendricks team did that, it would be swept under the rug and covered up....
Bryan
I totally agree with you...
and Hendricks is most likely running the same rods
They even got the winner of the truck race too. But not much for fines...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sauter-penalized-illegal-fuel-cell-152506008--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sauter-penalized-illegal-fuel-cell-152506008--nascar.html)
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Johnny Sauter lost the Truck Series points lead Wednesday after NASCAR penalized him for an illegal fuel cell at Kansas.
Sauter was docked 25 points by NASCAR. It knocked him from first place into a second-place tie with Jeb Burton, 13 points behind new leader Matt Crafton.
Quote from: A383Wing on April 24, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
and if Hendricks team did that, it would be swept under the rug and covered up....
Bryan
:iagree:
Have been using......NAShendrickCAR.....
Seems more correct now as NasHENDRICKcar.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 24, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
Turns out, Toyota put lighter rods in Kenseth's engine, 3 grams lighter. Maybe, Kayne would have won if Kenseth was legal.
Either way, Kenseth is running around just for the sponsors for the next 6 races.
It was only one rod...not all 8....after they checked the one rod that was out of spec, they pulled the other 7 and checked them as well...those were within specs.
It's a manufacturing issue, not a cheating issue
Bryan
Quote from: moparstuart on April 24, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Wow Nascar isnt screwing around
:iagree: dont jack with the motor guys...
It sucks because its such a small amount on one rod but a rule is a rule :brickwall: sloppy import car builders gotta pay up :nana:
as blueprinted as those cup motors are its sloppy craftsmanship in the balance shop.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on April 24, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
Turns out, Toyota put lighter rods in Kenseth's engine, 3 grams lighter. Maybe, Kayne would have won if Kenseth was legal.
Either way, Kenseth is running around just for the sponsors for the next 6 races.
:slap: seems something is a miss, it's not any real advantage, it's a disadvantage/out of balance, having one rod 3 grams light, there has to be much more to it, something more significant... I would think anyway :shruggy:
Bk's sponsor is REDDS. I was thinking/ hoping it was somethin else
What the hell?? Was gonna watch the Busch race on TV tonight......it's not televised?
Schedule says "ESPNEWS"!! what is that?
PS: Matt got the pole for tomorrow nights race...wonder if NASCAR is gonna inspect that motor before tomorrow?
Bryan :brickwall:
ESPNnews is channel 207 on Direct tv here.
I got Comcast Cable....it's channel 402 here...but it says I'm not authorized to receive it...
oh well
Bryan
it's on ESWHD here, on Comcast #726, but I'm watching the 2nd-3rd rounds of NFL draft mostly, just checking in on the race...
It's boring so far. Been mostly Harvek, Brad K, and Elloit Sadler changing off for the lead. Two crashed out, one red flag just to clean up the oil and stuff, but nothing major. They're at lap 149 now.
B.K won :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :woohoo:
2 RCR crew members arrested for post-race fight
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Nelson Piquet Jr. was involved in a post-race altercation that led to the arrest of two crew members for Richard Childress Racing, his team said Saturday.
Piquet and RCR driver Brian Scott tangled on the track during Friday night's Nationwide Series race and in the pits after. Crews for both drivers confronted each other when Scott went over to Piquet's car, and Piquet shoved him and then kicked Scott in the groin.
''When I went to talk to him, he just pushed and shoved me and then kicked me below the belt,'' Scott said after the race. ''It's just a chicken move.''
Henrico County police said there was a fight in the motorhome lot that led to the arrests of two crew members. Michael Searce was arrested on two charges of misdemeanor assault, and Thomas Costello was arrested on one count of misdemeanor assault. They were released early Saturday.
''Several members of another race team confronted a group that included Nelson Piquet Jr., resulting in the arrest of two individuals from the other race team,'' Turner Scott Motorsports said in a statement.
Team owner Richard Childress said his crew members were on their way home when the incident occurred.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2-rcr-crew-members-arrested-post-race-fight-152432820.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2-rcr-crew-members-arrested-post-race-fight-152432820.html)
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 27, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
2 RCR crew members arrested for post-race fight
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Nelson Piquet Jr. was involved in a post-race altercation that led to the arrest of two crew members for Richard Childress Racing, his team said Saturday.
Piquet and RCR driver Brian Scott tangled on the track during Friday night's Nationwide Series race and in the pits after. Crews for both drivers confronted each other when Scott went over to Piquet's car, and Piquet shoved him and then kicked Scott in the groin.
''When I went to talk to him, he just pushed and shoved me and then kicked me below the belt,'' Scott said after the race. ''It's just a chicken move.''
Henrico County police said there was a fight in the motorhome lot that led to the arrests of two crew members. Michael Searce was arrested on two charges of misdemeanor assault, and Thomas Costello was arrested on one count of misdemeanor assault. They were released early Saturday.
''Several members of another race team confronted a group that included Nelson Piquet Jr., resulting in the arrest of two individuals from the other race team,'' Turner Scott Motorsports said in a statement.
Team owner Richard Childress said his crew members were on their way home when the incident occurred.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2-rcr-crew-members-arrested-post-race-fight-152432820.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2-rcr-crew-members-arrested-post-race-fight-152432820.html)
Had it been in a bar, Brian would have wiped the floor with that fella...
I was really hoping not to have the last caution, but glad to see Harvick win it. Actually surprised Montoya got a top 5. My top 3 pix in my roster didn't fair too well. All got involved in cautions. Better luck next week.
I was rooting for anyone but Montoya....did ya notice who sponsored the 42 car? "Depends"..cause that driver is full of crap!
Yea for Harvick...looks like he was shot out of a cannon the last laps
Bryan
harvick did come out of the pack well.kurt did well during the race, then got into a bump fest in the end. the wife was pissed when they took the penalty back from kyle, (i told her i thought it was fair according to the rules) then she says, well then he better wreck. he did. im not a montoya fan either, so his streak continues. thats a good thing. ryan with 2 dnf's and his inability to do anything, has climbed into 16th place in the points. i guess alot now will depend on wednesdays announcement of how all the penalties will fall.
Quote from: A383Wing on April 27, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
I was rooting for anyone but Montoya....did ya notice who sponsored the 42 car? "Depends"..cause that driver is full of crap!
Yea for Harvick...looks like he was shot out of a cannon the last laps
Bryan
NOS will do that! :2thumbs:
You know, I went to Rockingham for the Sat. race which was the UARA late models and the Frank Kimmel street stocks and that was better racing than you see on TV. These are the guys that don't have million dollar sponsors supporting them and less powerful engines but the racing was top notch. Last year NASCAR was supporting local tracks and the way the cup series has gotten so anal its great to watch (real racing) for a change. :popcrn:
Local tracks do put on better racing for the most part. There are exceptions, but overall, a lot better experiences :2thumbs:
Penske penalties still stand. Penske said he'll appeal to the other panel. Might not look good for Gibbs.
On another note, testing at Indy seen cars going 214 mph.
It has turned into a damned spec series :'(
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 01, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
It has turned into a damned spec series :'(
I think NASCAR better look back at what happened to IROC.
"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."
Can we go back to the 1969 rulebook?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 02, 2013, 12:03:12 AM
Can we go back to the 1969 rulebook?
That would be a start !!!
My argument has been for a long time go to a V6 engine and let teams run whatever tire they want to. That way you don't need a restrictor plate and You don't need 800 hp for good racing.
I kind of like the 1969 rule book idea, with current safety equipment std.'s.... How about let teams run "any tire manufacturer that they choose", just make a limit on sizes std. safety stuff... Goodyear has long had the monopoly on most auto racing in North America, how about let, Firestone, Hoosier, Avon, Michelin, Bridgestone etc. get into the mix :shruggy: ... Like many other racing sanctioning bodies do :brickwall: ... I'm sure the NASCAR drivers, would love the variety & choices in tires... I would also like to see the restrictor plates go away too, just mandate a lower final gear ratio, that would limit the high speeds, they are worried about & still give the drivers back some throttle control again.... :Twocents:
Quote from: Budnicks on May 02, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
I kind of like the 1969 rule book idea, with current safety equipment std.'s.... How about let teams run "any tire manufacturer that they choose", just make a limit on sizes std. safety stuff... Goodyear has long had the monopoly on most auto racing in North America, how about let, Firestone, Hoosier, Avon, Michelin, Bridgestone etc. get into the mix :shruggy: ... Like many other racing sanctioning bodies do :brickwall: ... I'm sure the NASCAR drivers, would love the variety & choices in tires... I would also like to see the restrictor plates go away too, just mandate a lower final gear ratio, that would limit the high speeds, they are worried about & still give the drivers back some throttle control again.... :Twocents:
The last tire war between Goodyear and Hoosier in the late 80's sacrificed safety for speed. It put drivers in the wall and hospital.
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on May 02, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
I kind of like the 1969 rule book idea, with current safety equipment std.'s.... How about let teams run "any tire manufacturer that they choose", just make a limit on sizes std. safety stuff... Goodyear has long had the monopoly on most auto racing in North America, how about let, Firestone, Hoosier, Avon, Michelin, Bridgestone etc. get into the mix :shruggy: ... Like many other racing sanctioning bodies do :brickwall: ... I'm sure the NASCAR drivers, would love the variety & choices in tires... I would also like to see the restrictor plates go away too, just mandate a lower final gear ratio, that would limit the high speeds, they are worried about & still give the drivers back some throttle control again.... :Twocents:
The last tire war between Goodyear and Hoosier in the late 80's sacrificed safety for speed. It put drivers in the wall and hospital.
:yesnod:
Yep...ask Neil Bonnett. different tire manufacturers in an oval series = not good.
I guess they could have some sort of baseline limits for a "safe tire" (softness, etc), but eventually the manufactures would find ways to push the envelope and find ways (intentionally or not) to get past those limits without
technically breaking the rulebook. And that wouldnt be good.
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on May 02, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
I kind of like the 1969 rule book idea, with current safety equipment std.'s.... How about let teams run "any tire manufacturer that they choose", just make a limit on sizes std. safety stuff... Goodyear has long had the monopoly on most auto racing in North America, how about let, Firestone, Hoosier, Avon, Michelin, Bridgestone etc. get into the mix :shruggy: ... Like many other racing sanctioning bodies do :brickwall: ... I'm sure the NASCAR drivers, would love the variety & choices in tires... I would also like to see the restrictor plates go away too, just mandate a lower final gear ratio, that would limit the high speeds, they are worried about & still give the drivers back some throttle control again.... :Twocents:
The last tire war between Goodyear and Hoosier in the late 80's sacrificed safety for speed. It put drivers in the wall and hospital.
I would hope tires have gotten better since the 80S though.
Tire choices sound good on paper.
Other series:
Indy Car - one tire company
Grand-Am- one tire company
ALMS - multiple tire companies, but you have to have Michelin if you want to win.
Aren't Good Years like $2000. a set now ? That has to be a nasty tire bill for a race.
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 02, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
Aren't Good Years like $2000. a set now ? That has to be a nasty tire bill for a race.
Try over $200 a tire. :P
Hamlin cleared, will race at Talladegahttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html)
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 02, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on May 02, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
I kind of like the 1969 rule book idea, with current safety equipment std.'s.... How about let teams run "any tire manufacturer that they choose", just make a limit on sizes std. safety stuff... Goodyear has long had the monopoly on most auto racing in North America, how about let, Firestone, Hoosier, Avon, Michelin, Bridgestone etc. get into the mix :shruggy: ... Like many other racing sanctioning bodies do :brickwall: ... I'm sure the NASCAR drivers, would love the variety & choices in tires... I would also like to see the restrictor plates go away too, just mandate a lower final gear ratio, that would limit the high speeds, they are worried about & still give the drivers back some throttle control again.... :Twocents:
The last tire war between Goodyear and Hoosier in the late 80's sacrificed safety for speed. It put drivers in the wall and hospital.
I would hope tires have gotten better since the 80S though.
Exactly... With todays safety std.'s & I would think they could make spec rule tire, like they do with everything else on a NASCAR ride....
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
Tire choices sound good on paper.
Other series:
Indy Car - one tire company
Grand-Am- one tire company
ALMS - multiple tire companies, but you have to have Michelin if you want to win.
You forgot NHRA professional categories all have to run Good Year also :brickwall:
That spells
Good Year has a Race Tire total monopoly to me... you hear the racers bit-h about the lack of grip or crappy Good Year tires all the time, until NASCAR shuts them down, because Good Year has the contract &
you can't talk chit about any NASCAR contract, official, media personnel or their supplier, under the current NASCAR rules or your in for a big $$ fine, points grab/penalty or set out a few races, they have the gags on the guys.... unless you Hendricks of course...
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 02, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 02, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
Aren't Good Years like $2000. a set now ? That has to be a nasty tire bill for a race.
Try over $200 a tire. :P
Hamlin cleared, will race at Talladega
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html)
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I heard it is up to $500. a tire now ? :shruggy:
Quote from: Budnicks on May 03, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
Tire choices sound good on paper.
Other series:
Indy Car - one tire company
Grand-Am- one tire company
ALMS - multiple tire companies, but you have to have Michelin if you want to win.
That spells Good Year has a Race Tire total monopoly to me... you hear the racers bit-h about the lack of grip or crappy Good Year tires all the time, until NASCAR shuts them down, because Good Year has the contract & you can't talk chit about any NASCAR contract, official, media personnel or their supplier, under the current NASCAR rules or your in for a big $$ fine, points grab/penalty or set out a few races, they have the gags on the guys.... unless you Hendricks of course...
Or Stewart. It seems like the only drivers that have to keep their mouths shut is the Busch Bros. All others know better
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 03, 2013, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on May 03, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on May 02, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
Tire choices sound good on paper.
Other series:
Indy Car - one tire company
Grand-Am- one tire company
ALMS - multiple tire companies, but you have to have Michelin if you want to win.
That spells Good Year has a Race Tire total monopoly to me... you hear the racers bit-h about the lack of grip or crappy Good Year tires all the time, until NASCAR shuts them down, because Good Year has the contract & you can't talk chit about any NASCAR contract, official, media personnel or their supplier, under the current NASCAR rules or your in for a big $$ fine, points grab/penalty or set out a few races, they have the gags on the guys.... unless you Hendricks of course...
Or Stewart. It seems like the only drivers that have to keep their mouths shut is the Busch Bros. All others know better
:hah: yeah...LOL...
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 03, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 02, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on May 02, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
Aren't Good Years like $2000. a set now ? That has to be a nasty tire bill for a race.
Try over $200 a tire. :P
Hamlin cleared, will race at Talladega
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hamlin-says-ll-start-race-talladega-163000492.html)
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I heard it is up to $500. a tire now ? :shruggy:
I think it depends on what tire program your on or have to be on, with Good Year... I've heard $$ #'s all over the map, from
near free to $500+ each also, but depending on who's talking & what team it is...
"I don't know for a fact either way thou" & probably won't ever know the true/real $$'s either...
The cup cars were running around 214 in practice today :P
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 03, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
The cup cars were running around 214 in practice today :P
Are you sure? I was watching. The cars were only hitting 199 mph in single car runs. Was that in the draft? They were hitting 214 in Indy earlier this week during a tire test.
Maybe that's what I heard. I know they were talking about Jeff Gorden was one of the guys that hit that speed.
his mouth goes that fast and nothing good comes out of it
Bryan
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-05-01/nascar-indianapolis-tire-test-brickyard-400-indianapolis-500?eref=sircrc
I thought the last 50 laps of the Nationwide race were pretty good lots of passing and drama.
Now I hope the cup race isn't a snoozer Sunday
I thought the whole Nationwide race was good. :yesnod:
It figures, the one race I didn't get to watch, was a good one :brickwall:
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 05, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
I thought the whole Nationwide race was good. :yesnod:
yup...didn't fall asleep watching that one...lots of action
Bryan
ha, i seen rain, and then rain, and then more rain. then i watched some hockey and stuff, and forgot about it.
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 05, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
I thought the whole Nationwide race was good. :yesnod:
probably I only watched the last 50 :)
Just woke up from my cup race nap and its raining :flame: I guess if you like pack racing its ok :shruggy:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 05, 2013, 09:59:04 AM
It figures, the one race I didn't get to watch, was a good one :brickwall:
:nana: yeah me too...
glad that caution came out. yes, bunch em up for the finish. :2thumbs:
poll question: what could possibly happen if you put a rookie idiot up front in a restrictor race????
good interview ryan :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Yeah for David R and David G
nice working togather to get the win and second.
:2thumbs:
good finish....I root for anyone that can beat the 48 or 24....felt sorry for Newman, his interview was great...wonder if he will get fined for what he said
Bryan
Love it when the underdogs win! :2thumbs:
Talladega has always had the dark horse wildcard from the beginning. For years there was no repeat winner at the Talladega 500. They used to say 13 races, 13 faces.
david and david. how great they came together at the end. good run on the bottom to capture second also.
Gotta feel sorry for Newman, but I was pulling for Kurt up til then. I'll give :2thumbs: up for each of the Davids :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on May 05, 2013, 07:17:25 PM
good finish....I root for anyone that can beat the 48 or 24....felt sorry for Newman, his interview was great...wonder if he will get fined for what he said
Bryan
That was my first thought, he is going to get a spanking from NASCAR for that one.
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 05, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
good interview ryan :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Looks like Ryan may have to get his checkbook out.
Newman's comments after Talladega under review by NASCAR: NASCAR will likely review comments made by Stewart-Haas Racing driver #39-Ryan Newman following a Lap 183 crash in Sunday's rain-marred Sprint Cup race at Talladega Superspeedway. Any potential fine that could come from the comments likely would be made on Tuesday or Wednesday, per NASCAR's history. Earlier, it was reported that NASCAR would definitely review his comments, but a spokesperson clarified that there are a variety of things that will be reviewed over the course of a race weekend. Newman finished 32nd after the crash in which Kurt Busch's #78 car barrel-rolled and landed upside down on the hood of the #39 car Newman had in position for a top-10 finish or win with five laps left in regulation as darkness approached. NASCAR fined #11-Denny Hamlin $25,000 earlier this year for perceived negative comments about the new "Gen 6" car and the quality of racing at Phoenix International Raceway.(ESPN)(5-7-2013)
My interest in Nascar continues to decline.
Considering the number of cars that has ended upon Ryan's roof......Nascar should understand he has reasons to be a bit.....annoyed.
If Nascar keeps fining the drivers, they're not gonna give very good interviews and take their frustrations out on the track. Which driver is going to figure this out first?
The way fines and points are being taken away from drivers, Denny Hamlin could end up in the chase and points leader after 26 races are done
Bryan
Penske got off lucky. :woohoo: :woohoo:
CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- NASCAR's chief appeals officer issued a mixed ruling for Penske Racing on Tuesday, upholding fines and points penalties for parts infractions at Texas but reducing sweeping suspensions from the next six races to the next two.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 07, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
Penske got off lucky. :woohoo: :woohoo:
CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- NASCAR's chief appeals officer issued a mixed ruling for Penske Racing on Tuesday, upholding fines and points penalties for parts infractions at Texas but reducing sweeping suspensions from the next six races to the next two.
NASCAR intentionally threw the book at Penske on purpose because the appeals process could knock it down.
Quote from: Aero426 on May 07, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 07, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
Penske got off lucky. :woohoo: :woohoo:
CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- NASCAR's chief appeals officer issued a mixed ruling for Penske Racing on Tuesday, upholding fines and points penalties for parts infractions at Texas but reducing sweeping suspensions from the next six races to the next two.
NASCAR intentionally threw the book at Penske on purpose because the appeals process could knock it down.
:2thumbs: I was thinking the same thing, if NASCAR throws the book at them, they will not look so tyrannical, if they ultimately reduce the penalties latter on, it has the appearance of NASCAR Officials working with the teams... NASCAR is like;
it's my ball, my court, you play my rules, or you just hit the bricks !! "Have at it boys", only pertains to on the track, go out & wreck everyone you can, cost all the teams a ton of $$$$$$$, but god forbid you say something bad about how the rules work & especially not to the lame media...LOL...
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 07, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
If Nascar keeps fining the drivers, they're not gonna give very good interviews and take their frustrations out on the track. Which driver is going to figure this out first?
:2thumbs: They're already just a bunch of Robots in front of the cameras now.... Only Hendricks teams can get away with it...LOL...
every year that I know of Junior and Mark Martin have always said bad things about restrictor plate racing...nothing has ever been done to them
Bryan
No fines for Ryan, I am actually surprised.
yea....me too
Gibbs got the penalty reduced. :scratchchin:
The points deducted from Kenseth were reduced from 50 to 12, which moves him from 11th in the standings to fourth. The panel also reinstated the three bonus points he earned for the victory for seeding in the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship.
The panel also reduced crew chief Jason Ratcliff's suspension from six races to one race, and eliminated the six-race suspension for owner Joe Gibbs. It let stand Ratcliff's $200,000 fine.
The only action the panel took was increasing Toyota's penalty from a five-point fine to seven points.
Gibbs said he was done with the process and would not appeal anything further.
''Right now, we just want to get back to racing,'' the team owner said.
NASCAR is not eligible to appeal anything further to chief appellate officer John Middlebrook. Spokesman Kerry Tharp said the sanctioning body was disappointed in the decision.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on May 08, 2013, 06:13:26 AM
No fines for Ryan, I am actually surprised.
great to hear. :2thumbs:
Yah NA$CAR got robbed on the reduction of the penalties, I expected a reduction but not as much as they did. I would have upped the fine to 500,000 hey TRD is paying it not Gibbs and 2 race suspension instead of the 6.
Its must be good to be Joe Gibbs
well, if it was Hendricks....it either would have never happened or fines would have been dropped altogether
Bryan
Cat fight between Danica and the Lady in Black. Lady in Black wins and Danica goes to backup
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 10, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
Cat fight between Danica and the Lady in Black. Lady in Black wins and Danica goes to backup
ROFLMAO.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 10, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
Cat fight between Danica and the Lady in Black. Lady in Black wins and Danica goes to backup
yeah & the back up ain't that good 32nd out of 34 cars ran in qualifying right now....
:cheers: Kurt Busch 27.03 @ 181.92 MPH, new Darlington track record... good for him :2thumbs:
Another announcer that needs to leave is that Brad Dougherty..like his big butt has ever driven a car...the only reason he's on the TV is because he is supposed to be "part owner" of some car....
he knows nothing about racing
I miss Buddy Baker & Benny Parsons and their announcing
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on May 10, 2013, 08:49:36 PM
Another announcer that needs to leave is that Brad Dougherty..like his big butt has ever driven a car...the only reason he's on the TV is because he is supposed to be "part owner" of some car....
he knows nothing about racing
I miss Buddy Baker & Benny Parsons and their announcing
Bryan
brads not great , but let me say i love him compared to the dumb and dumber brothers
yea..Brad is 3rd on my "needs to go list'....the idiot brothers are #1 & #2
Bryan
Watching cup race tonight...halfway through...really boring race for Darlington
I really miss the trucks racing :brickwall:
Bryan
Yea for Matt....wonder how well they are gonna scrutinize his car now?
It was a boring race til the last 40 laps. I'm happy Matt won. Better then Busch.
yes, i agree. but listening to d waltrip was so annoying. hes a frigging idiot. even michael said he seen it different, but the idiot kept saying that kasey got lose on his own. he is enough to get me to stop watching. :rotz:
Upon closer inspection of Kaynes' quarter panel, there wasn't a mark on it or a dent. My own observation.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on May 12, 2013, 09:28:25 AM
Upon closer inspection of Kaynes' quarter panel, there wasn't a mark on it or a dent. My own observation.
yea..I didn't see any mark either
i agree that there wasnt a dent, but he did take tha air off his car. the second he slid up kanes car went lose. kyle went in too hot and slid up the track.
I think Kasey is getting close to paying Kyle back. He was very calm during his interview, but did state that this is the third time Kyle has been around him when he had a good car, capable of challenging for the win, and he ended up with a wrecked car. He stated the obvious. Kyle took a horrible line into the corner and instead of backing off and making the best of it, he went in full bore and slid up the track. He was trying to upset Kasey's car by hitting the corner or rubbing the back bumper or disrupting the air and it worked. I am glad his car went to crap and I can't believe someone in that garage hasn't just kicked his whiney a$$.
I did not see Kyle give an interview after the race. Don't tell me he's back to being a baby again? ::)
From what I seen, Kasey didn't give Kyle much room to get a good entry into the corner either. But, I do have to agree that Kyle does knock Kyle out of competition quite a bit.
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 12, 2013, 09:26:41 AM
yes, i agree. but listening to d waltrip was so annoying. hes a frigging idiot. even michael said he seen it different, but the idiot kept saying that kasey got lose on his own. he is enough to get me to stop watching. :rotz:
I agree, with Mikey on that one, Darrel's just a NASCAR a douche :slap: , Kyle wrecked Kasey, either with a bump or taking the air off the back of the car on purpose, you can tell by the obscure non-racing line he/Kyle took & if he didn't do it, he was intending to wreck him, got lucky, CHECKERS OR WRECKER :Twocents:
Dick won't be Trickling down for breakfast (sad story, actually) :rotz:
"Retired race car driver Richard "Dick" Trickle, 71, died Thursday from an apparent self inflicted gun shot wound, according to the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. The incident occurred at 12:02 p.m. at Forest Lawn Cemetery on Highway 150 East in Boger City. The Lincoln County Communications Center received a call apparently from the victim that "there would be a dead body and it would be his." Communications Center workers tried to place a return call to the number but did not get an answer. The first emergency units arriving on the scene located the body lying near the victim's pickup truck. Trickle was a Lincoln County resident and had lived there since the early 1990's.(wbtv.com)
Trickle was the 1989 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rookie of the Year, started 303 Cup races with 15 top-fives [with a best finish of 3rd, five times), 36 top-tens and 1 pole (Dover 1990).(Racing-reference.info)(5-16-2013)"
http://www.jayski.com/news/pages/story/_/page/NASCAR-related-deaths-sad-news
WOW!!!! This guy was my local idol growing up... :rotz: :'(
Here is a better story on him http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/9283240/retired-driver-dick-trickle-dead-apparent-self-inflicted-gun-shot-wound (http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/9283240/retired-driver-dick-trickle-dead-apparent-self-inflicted-gun-shot-wound)
as tragic as this is for him, his family, friends, and fans...am I the only one who feels bad because I chuckle every time I read/hear his name (even in these terrible circumstances...)?
So So Sad, sorry to hear about the death of Dick Trickle, may he Rest In Peace now, I was told he supposedly was suffering from deep depression over the death of his granddaughter or something along those lines... My deepest heartfelt condolences, go out to his family & friends, even his race fans, for their loss.... :brickwall:
it's exciting watching qualifying for the All Star race tomorrow night with no pit road speed limit
Bryan
Good for Carl to run Dick Trickle name and number on His car.
Thats awsome :2thumbs:
yup...great for Carl
I laughed so hard when the 48 slid through his pits
(I think I hurt myself doing it)
Dick making a rare appearance in a Mopar. This is Bay Darnell's Charger at Milwaukee, about 1973.
just finished watching the All Star race....
son-of-a-b!tch!!
Quote from: A383Wing on May 18, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
just finished watching the All Star race....
son-of-a-b!tch!!
i agree :rotz:
Quote from: nvrbdn on May 19, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on May 18, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
just finished watching the All Star race....
son-of-a-b!tch!!
i agree :rotz:
x2 was very boring over all. mostly just had it on for sound
It would have been ok if it didn't end up just another JJ win.... I was routing for #78 Kurt Bush he had a bad last pit stop & it killed his chances...
watching qualifying for the Coke 600....JJ had the pole for 5 minutes...then Kyle bumped him off
Bryan
20 cars & Kyle Bush is still on pole.... Kevin Harvick just made a decent qualifying run 3rd... In my pool I have Harvick for qualifying, Brad K. & TS/Smoke in the race for points... :popcrn: Kurt Busch 203mph down the back stretch... 195mph average, new track record & #1 pole for now, didn't last long Denny Hamlin broke the record again, I guess the old track record, it was broken 7 times, 5 before Kurt Busch in qualifying..
Quote from: Budnicks on May 23, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
20 cars & Kyle Bush is still on pole.... Kevin Harvick just made a decent qualifying run 3rd... In my pool I have Harvick for qualifying, Brad K. & TS/Smoke in the race for points... :popcrn: Kurt Bush 203mph down the back stretch... 195mph average, new track record & #1 pole for now
:2thumbs:
Denny got the pole....good for him
gonna watch the Coke 600 today live....I'm watching the Indy 500 right now....I'm about to fall asleep....and I thought the Nascar races were boring
Bryan
is it fox this week an what time??anyone help ,thanks :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs:
watching indy now ,did caught the end of monte carlo race ,looking for nascar too round out the b-day.
Todays race is on FOX....start time is 2:30 Pacific time
Bryan
I'm bored with the 500 as well. I hope the 600 isn't this dull
unfortunately, it probably will be...Charlotte is a wide track, many lanes, and the longest race....
Bryan
Thanks for info bryan. have time between races to go get my free b-day mexican dinner,woo hoo.. Have a great Memoryal weekend guys an gals an beeee safe if traveling..dj :cheers: :2thumbs:
Enjoy the birthday meal dj :2thumbs:
At least Kanaan won the 500. He deserved the win
Quote from: djcarguy on May 26, 2013, 02:19:56 PM
have time between races to go get my free b-day mexican dinner,woo hoo..
Taco Bell?
boring race...but the guy with the hula-hoop is funny...I am amazed he can do that and still stay on the roof of that motorhome with possibly all he has had to drink
Bryan
yep, boxing glves and all :smilielol:
wow...what a finish for Kevin Harvick...came from nowhere..again
sorry for Matt...24 & 48 had issues....good, couldn't happen to better people
Bryan
Not a big fan of Harvick, but better then the 48 car :yesnod:
I was rooting for either Kayne or Kurt, but Harvick deserved it. :2thumbs:
Speaking of the 24 or 48 car....
In relation to their car numbers, does the number those 2 drive mean that Jeff Gordon is half the man Jimmy is, or is Jimmy twice the woman Gordon is?
Bryan (on my meds...)
I think Johnson is twice the baby Gordon is. Gordon can only get away with half the crap Jimmie does.
I hope all the fans that got taken to hospital are OK because of that camera rope that broke....I wonder how long Nascar will allow that camera to be at the races anymore
Bryan
Fox says all fans are alright and that they'll suspend use of that camera system indefinitely. They use that camera system at all major sporting events, or at least used to.
Caught the last 20 laps of the Nationwide race today at Dover. Looked to be about 200 people watching the race. No wonder NASCAR no longer reports the attendance figures.
Well, it is sickening boring when the same driver wins 90% of all the races
I agree...but Lagano won today..he is still a turd
boring race today for sure...the truck race Friday afternoon was great...that is the best one of the 3 series racing
Bryan
I'll agree about the trucks. Looking forward to seeing them on dirt :popcrn:
I saw the replay of the trucks race. It was good. The trucks are more fun to watch now I think then the Nationwide series. Just needs different guys calling the race :P
Just started watching the Cup race...look at all the empty seats in the stands.
Bryan
JJ jumped the restart and gets black flagged :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
I'll be shocked if Montoya wins
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on June 02, 2013, 03:27:38 PM
JJ jumped the restart and gets black flagged :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :popcrn: :popcrn:
:brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: Stewart won :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: Better than JJ I guess. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Stewart won :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :lol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on June 02, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
:brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: Stewart won :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: Better than JJ I guess. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
or Montoya
I hope this turns Tony's season around
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 02, 2013, 03:35:01 PM
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Stewart won :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :lol:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Glad it was not one of the bush Sister's or montoya that won :rofl: :rofl: :D :D :Twocents:
Go Smokey :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :cheers: :cheers: finally a win :smilielol:
he needed it badly. he is the only one now with a win from 11th place down to 20th. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 02, 2013, 07:32:13 PM
he needed it badly. he is the only one now with a win from 11th place down to 20th. :2thumbs:
Hopefully more to come. :2thumbs:
Poor JJ. :rofl:
I'm so glad it wasn't JJ again :2thumbs: .... Great job/race for Tony, but too bad, I took him off my picks, this week for my FBBO/FABO NASCAR Pick Em' game.... Figures he wins now :brickwall: ...LOL... I added Clint Bowyer & Brad K. finished 5th & 6th, with Kyle Bush as my qualifier...
I had Kurt Busch, Kayne, and Kenseth as my picks for today. Guess who didn't finish to woopy :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: Better luck at Pocono I guess. :P
I'm glad Tony won, He needed it.
To bad for Hamlin. He had a fast car.
Brad Keselowski's car failed postrace inspection at Dover Sunday because of a broken part on the front of his car, Penske Racing officials said Monday.
Keselowski finished fifth at Dover but his car was too low in postrace inspection. NASCAR is expected to announce any penalties on Tuesday.
Brad Keselowski's car failed postrace inspection at Dover. (AP Photo)
The typical penalty for a car being too low is six points and a $25,000 fine to the crew chief.
Team owner Roger Penske told the Associated Press that a broken part allowed a front spring to fall.
Keselowski was docked 25 points earlier this year for illegal suspension parts and crew chief Paul Wolfe was suspended for three races. Wolfe returned to action Sunday at Dover.
IMHFO If it's a legitimate broken suspension part, from during the race, that caused the too-low condition, there shouldn't even be any penalty...
i agree, but then nascar has its own way of figuring things out. :shruggy:
"Driver docked six points, Wolfe fined $25,000 after failing post-race inspection"
Not as bad as it could be given the fact that they're under probation already.
Makes me think, You have to wonder if Penske is regretting leave Dodge now :lol:
so what day and fox or espn is nascar race this weekend??? sounded like fox was done for the year???
any or weekly info helpful?? thanks guys. dj :popcrn: :popcrn: :cheers: left turn time :2thumbs:
WOW! Good thing you said that. I didn't realize Fox was done for the year already.
The next 6 races are on TNT. Pre-race starts at 11am central time, race at 12.
yep, i remember them saying fox was done.
at least we don't have to listen to the motormouth Waltrip brothers anymore this year
Bryan
that is a blessing :yesnod:
When is the last time something in the front suspension of a NASCAR broke (not during a big wreck) and dropped the front end measurably, while still leaving the car in good enough condition to win a NASCAR race?
Last weekend :lol:
I fergot my usual post here...
"Son-of-A- B!tch!!"
Quote from: A383Wing on June 09, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
I fergot my usual post here...
"Son-of-A- B!tch!!"
I agree. I didn't pick all of my drivers in the Fantasy deal and got a DNS. Oh yeah, and THAT guy won :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
Another damn JJ show @ Pocono :Twocents: , too bad, I was routing for Tony... I would even take Jr. over JJ :slap:
me too...I was hoping Jr. would bump JJ to the wall
Quote from: A383Wing on June 10, 2013, 06:10:43 PM
me too...I was hoping Jr. would bump JJ to the wall
I would have paid $$$$$$$ to see that....
If I had the $$$, I would have paid Jr. to do it...or give him a case of Diet Dew
Its funny how JJ could pull away from the pack, and no one else could. But will they check his car out, like they do everyone else? no. Hendricks makes them too much money.
So they'll keep this up until there are no more fans watching. :icon_smile_angry:
Quote from: A383Wing on June 10, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
If I had the $$$, I would have paid Jr. to do it...or give him a case of Diet Dew
:2thumbs:
Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on June 10, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
Its funny how JJ could pull away from the pack, and no one else could. But will they check his car out, like they do everyone else? no. Hendricks makes them too much money.
So they'll keep this up until there are no more fans watching. :icon_smile_angry:
I bet half the stands were empty on Sunday...and they are loosing more & more TV viewers every week....and if JJ keeps winning, I'm gonna be one of them.
And yea...they won't check his car... :RantExplode:
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on June 10, 2013, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on June 10, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
Its funny how JJ could pull away from the pack, and no one else could. But will they check his car out, like they do everyone else? no. Hendricks makes them too much money.
So they'll keep this up until there are no more fans watching. :icon_smile_angry:
I bet half the stands were empty on Sunday...and they are loosing more & more TV viewers every week....and if JJ keeps winning, I'm gonna be one of them.
And yea...they won't check his car... :RantExplode:
Bryan
:2thumbs: or when they do & find anything, it will be just a slap on the hand, he's like rubber nothing sticks to him, I almost hate him more than Jeff Gordon now, well at-least as much anyway....
that car looked way too low to me...LOL....
I missed the race sunday an havn't given a darn. I DROVE 1HR SOUTH TOO SEE AND GET MY DAYTONA WING..I got one of danes solid wing . may watch a race again someday,haha.
well bout all i can think of now latter guys. :2thumbs: :drool5: :2thumbs:
sounds like your day was more important than the race. :2thumbs:
I think "The Fix for #6" is in the works here
Quote from: A383Wing on June 11, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
I think "The Fix for #6" is in the works here
Yeah that's too funny & rimes even.... :shruggy:
Jason Leffler dies from injuries suffered at Bridgeport Speedway race
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jason-leffler-severely-injured-small-track-wreck-015742662.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jason-leffler-severely-injured-small-track-wreck-015742662.html)
yea..I just saw that...damn shame...single father with a 5 year old son
That's sad to hear. Was he even racing much this year in the Nationwide series?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on June 13, 2013, 12:15:07 AM
That's sad to hear. Was he even racing much this year in the Nationwide series?
Not much. . . he did run a Cup car this last week in Pocono.
I have not seen any video of the crash, but there was nothing left of his car. These guys hit the wall all the time at 180mph and walk away. He was on a dirt track, how fast was the kid even going. . . not 180. . not half that. He must have hit at just that certain angle.
I grew up in the world of open wheel modified's. Here they were basically sprint cars, with the back of the car having a rear that resembled a real car (I watched the car in the picture run for several years as a '66 Corvette). But I am willing to bet, he snapped his neck, or hit his head in the flip so hard, it busted his helmet. I remember one driver dying locally when that happened to him. They don't have the same types of head restraints in them, and the head really bounces around in a flip. Tony Stewardt is going to be here Saturday night, a half hour from me racing a sprint car too at the track I pretty much grew up at.
RIP Jason.......... :engel016:
sad to hear.
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 12, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
Jason Leffler dies from injuries suffered at Bridgeport Speedway race
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jason-leffler-severely-injured-small-track-wreck-015742662.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jason-leffler-severely-injured-small-track-wreck-015742662.html)
That sucks way to young to die, but was doing what he loved... RIP Jason
Watching Cup qualifying at Michigan Speedway.....so far all have been 200-202+ MPH qualifying laps
:eek2:
Cousin Carl got the pole...202+ MPH :2thumbs:
kurt ran a pretty nice lap taking the second spot. :2thumbs:
I just saw on Speed, that Jason Leffler died from blunt force trauma to the neck. That is what I figured, happened.
Gorden is done for today ...Sucks for Bobby Le bounty though
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 16, 2013, 12:25:07 PM
Gorden is done for today ...Sucks for Bobby Le bounty though
Great the 24 is out... Now if only the 48 can be taken out too...
I agree :yesnod: :popcrn:
Look for 99 Carl Edwards to payback 78 Kurt Busch for the rub at the start too... Going back & forth between NHRA {my preferred Racing} & NASCAR
HAPPY FATHER DAY GUYS ENJOY THE RACES . :cheers: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :cheers: LATTER DJ
Quote from: djcarguy on June 16, 2013, 12:57:43 PM
HAPPY FATHER DAY GUYS ENJOY THE RACES . :cheers: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :cheers: LATTER DJ
thanks you too
Whelp, 3 out of the 4 Hendrick cars done for the day. Go figure the 48 still running :rotz: :P
That's because he gets all the quality parts (or the cheating parts)
Well, he finally bought the wall, but to late in the race to do much good in the points. :P
It's good to see the Biff win again :2thumbs:
Didn't watch. Did I miss too much? I did get to see Kayne wreck unfortunately, but that was it. I spent time with Dad doing work around his house instead of watching, which made it worth it.
3 out of the 4 Hendrick cars crashed, but Jr blew up. Kurt Bush hit the wall. that was pretty much it.
Thank you :cheers: Jr. blowing up doesn't surprise me. In the first 50 or the last 50 is when he normally screws up.
I think there was trash on the grille...he waited too long to come in
Looks like Hendrick had to shell out some money today for damaged & wrecked race cars
The Dinger wins here at Road America! :2thumbs: :cheers:
that was a good race
is there a sunday race ?? what time,thanks?? dj :popcrn: :popcrn:
Sunday, noon (Pacific Time), TNT
Race is at Sonoma. McMurray has the pole :2thumbs:
Why can't they find someone to sing the opening anthem the right way instead of sounding like a cat in a blender?
drives me nuts....now I know why I DVR the race and skip through the crap
seems like everyone these days feels they need to put their own spin on a song that shouldnt be changed one bit. i am assuming they actually feel they sound good.
it didn't
Didn't hear it, but a choir is the best way for the anthem to be sung. :yesnod: :patriot:
yea.I agree....
my ears still hurt and what hair I have on my neck it still standing up
Well, Truex finally won a race. I'm sort of surprised that the road course guys weren't a bigger factor than they were.
Thank okay though. :2thumbs:
I'm glad Truex won, I'm even gladder (LOL) that Montoya ran outta gas
Bobby Labonte's start streak to end at 704
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bobby-labontes-start-streak-end-201323703--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bobby-labontes-start-streak-end-201323703--nascar.html)
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Bobby Labonte's consecutive start streak will come to an end at 704 races.
Labonte is not entered to race Saturday night at Kentucky Speedway, which will bring an end to the second-longest active starts streak in NASCAR behind Jeff Gordon's 705 starts.
Labonte confirmed his status on a chat with fans on the JTG Daugherty Racing website.
What's the reason for him not racing Saturday? :popcrn:
hmmmm wonder why? :scratchchin:
It says why in the story. I guess the team decided to not go.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on June 26, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
What's the reason for him not racing Saturday? :popcrn:
The team has put Allmendinger in the car as a troubleshooter for a couple of races.
Failure to read the story on my part. :brickwall: That's got to be tuff on Bobby. But, in today's day and age, historical milestones are not part of the current agenda in Nascar competition. It's all about the money.
yep me too. im at work and wanted someone else to read it for me. :smilielol: :smilielol: :nana:
Truck race tonight, 8:00pm EST, Speed Channel
Watching qualifying right now :2thumbs:
Whatever happened to Johnny Benson? Seems he just up and disappeared after the season ended a while back. Same with Ted Musgrave
QuoteMusgrave will serve as Ron Hornaday Jr.'s spotter for eight races during the 2012 Camping World Truck Series season. The March 2012 press release states that Ted is "now retired" from driving.
Musgrave lost his ride, not for sure on Benson. Both guys done real good when they did run. I always rooted for Musgrave.
Benson is still racing late models and supermodifieds back home in Michigan. He was hurt pretty good driving a super in 2009 which is shortly after the truck team he was driving for ceased operations. He made a full recovery. Here is a good interview from last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU0s3x-A0gk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU0s3x-A0gk)
I miss Johnny racing the trucks...he was always one of the nicest guys to talk to, never had a bad thing to say about anyone, and raced clean
is there a nascar race sunday an what time please,,,thanks western time??? thanks guys :2thumbs:
another driver in 24 hrs lemons ,killed last week. like mid 30ts an 1 or 2 kids. car did not look that bad.. sorry an all best too his family. drawing a blank on his name right now ,been a week an dont really follow that racing. sad an too young ,,an kids left with out their dad.
12 central, guess that would be 10 west coast time. :2thumbs:
now that time was given as the time they were back on the air. im not sure if there will be prerace stuff again, or go straight to racing.
12 eastern time, 9 pacific time...
Whelp, that was a big wreck. Brad K is and Biffle are done
dang, wish i would have known 12 eastern. i missed an hour of the race and the wreck :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 30, 2013, 11:44:05 AM
Whelp, that was a big wreck. Brad K is and Biffle are done
that was all Kurts fault
lets let JJ rewrite the restart rules because he is the only guy to understand it. :smilielol: :smilielol:
way to tell him kyle :2thumbs:
:iagree:
JJ's a whiner, learned from Gordon
whew!! I was worried there for a while.....
Yay for Matt!!
Way to go Matt! :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 30, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
lets let JJ rewrite the restart rules because he is the only guy to understand it. :smilielol: :smilielol:
way to tell him kyle :2thumbs:
I loved it when Kyle said that too. :smilielol:
the cry baby refused to interview. dock him some points. :flame:
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 30, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
the cry baby refused to interview. dock him some points. :flame:
:lol: I wish, like a 100 of them. Here is the crash you missed...
http://nascarnewsunfiltered.com/crash-at-kentucky-speedway/ (http://nascarnewsunfiltered.com/crash-at-kentucky-speedway/)
thanks. glad to see the wreck.
I see little miss Princess Sparkle Pony didn't cause a wreck today
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
watching Speed channel now...JJ is still bitching about the start...he says he's gonna talk to NASCAR about the restarts
Quote from: A383Wing on June 30, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
watching Speed channel now...JJ is still bitching about the start...he says he's gonna talk to NASCAR about the restarts
He's such a whinny baby....
I almost missed the whole damn race, our TV listing on Comcast showed Franklin & Bash or some dumb cop & lawyer show on, didn't even find the race until it was like 60 laps left... At-least it's not either JJ or Jeff Gordon or Kyle Busch who won....
yep, i was watching the recording i had of the rain. then they said that mother nature won and we will see you at 12 tomorrow. so i went straight to set the recordings for 12. only problem is that im central time zone and they were talking eastern time zone. so i came in right after the wreck that took out brad. oh well, still got to watch the rest of it. :2thumbs:
Don't you know Edwards is kicking himself every time Matt wins, thinking that could have been his ride.
I just wish it wasn't a Toyota :brickwall:
i agree about the toyota, but when i see the "whiner/cheater" or the "cry baby" up front, i even root for the toyota to pass them. anyone please pass them. :D
Or wreck them...hell, I'll root for Montoya to wreck the 24 or 48 if he's next to either one of them while racing
Quote from: A383Wing on July 02, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
Or wreck them...hell, I'll root for Montoya to wreck the 24 or 48 if he's next to either one of them while racing
He's too busy looking for jet dryers let alone driving his car. We could really use a Dale Sr. type of person again. If it wasn't for Nascar slapping them so hard, either of the Busch bros. could fit this position. Both of them have the win it or wreck it mentality.
what day and time are races this week??thanks. i wrote it down sunday but cant find the note now,,
i think 4th truck race?? an saturday the 6th nascar??evening what 6 eastern 3 pacific?? thank have a good 4th guys.
take care and drive safe ya alls.lattter dj :2thumbs: :cheers:
The next truck race is SATURDAY, JULY 13 08:30 PM ET
cup race is sat night at 7:30 eastern- 6:30 central- 4:30 on the west coast. :2thumbs:
no truck race this weekend, Nationwide (or Busch for me) is Friday night, 4:30pm Pacific time, Cup race Saturday night, 4:30pm Pacific time
Bryan
NASCAR confiscates roof flaps from 31 teams
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-confiscates-roof-flaps-16-223512796--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-confiscates-roof-flaps-16-223512796--nascar.html)
Thirty-one cars, including 16 in the Sprint Cup Series, failed inspection before Thursday's practices at Daytona International Speedway.
NASCAR confiscated the teams' roof flaps, which are designed to keep cars on the ground during spins and wrecks at high speeds, for further inspection. Penalties could be possible.
The cars involved included all three Joe Gibbs Racing entries (Kyle Busch, Denny Hamlin and Matt Kenseth), all three Roush Fenway Racing entries (Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards and Ricky Stenhouse Jr.), all three Michael Waltrip Racing entries (Clint Bowyer, Martin Truex Jr. and Michael Waltrip) and both Roger Penske Racing entries (Joey Logano and defending series champion Brad Keselowski). Cars driven by Jamie McMurray, Trevor Bayne, Casey Mears, Marcos Ambrose and Aric Almirola also failed inspection.
The roof-flap spacers had been illegally machined down to reduce weight. More in link provided.
wonder how much of an advantage all that shaved weight would have given them?
this is getting ridiculous, the stands are half empty now, France and his Nazi inspectors are gonna run the sport right out of existence soon.
Quote from: A383Wing on July 05, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
wonder how much of an advantage all that shaved weight would have given them?
this is getting ridiculous, the stands are half empty now, France and his Nazi inspectors are gonna run the sport right out of existence soon.
look not a hendrick car in the bunch :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: thats the only reason they are cracking down
I wonder if the teams are the ones doing the machine work on the flaps, or the manufacturers of the flaps? The teams don't make the body panels or other exterior pieces anymore.
Quote from: moparstuart on July 05, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 05, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
wonder how much of an advantage all that shaved weight would have given them?
this is getting ridiculous, the stands are half empty now, France and his Nazi inspectors are gonna run the sport right out of existence soon.
look not a hendrick car in the bunch :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: thats the only reason they are cracking down
wonder if JJ squealed like a pig? Maybe Hendricks had a hand in making them.
Quote from: A383Wing on July 05, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
wonder how much of an advantage all that shaved weight would have given them?
this is getting ridiculous, the stands are half empty now, France and his Nazi inspectors are gonna run the sport right out of existence soon.
Jeff Hammond said only a matter of grams for each car. There is no point of doing it to lighten the car. So he doesn't understand why they did it. It does make the parts weaker however.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 06, 2013, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 05, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
wonder how much of an advantage all that shaved weight would have given them?
this is getting ridiculous, the stands are half empty now, France and his Nazi inspectors are gonna run the sport right out of existence soon.
Jeff Hammond said only a matter of grams for each car. There is no point of doing it to lighten the car. So he doesn't understand why they did it. It does make the parts weaker however.
Less weight up top, lets them add weight low.......thus lower the center of gravity. Remember these cars are so close, a few grams moved could mean something. Jeff certainly knows this, curious, yes?
Also curious......all those cars "cheating"........but HMS and RCR show up with correct ones just before Nascar does an inspection?
Seem to recall JJ mentioning talking to Nascar about something......
But grams he said would not make any real difference in anything
Watching Cup race at Daytona....stands are kinda empty....wonder why??
The teams KNOW those grams matter, otherwise why risk doing it?
Nascar must think the grams matter, they are enforcing the rules. Nascar may be doing it as a safety issue, and I give credit to them on that. They do pay attention to safety.
Certainly there's a reason for doing it.......
shit...again.... :RantExplode:
someone better be checking his damn car real good
Happened to catch a bit at the end of the race. WOW! Must have been boring!
How many lead changes??? It was a JJ parade.
p.s. Latest sales figures showed Dodge sales up and Charger sales up. Guess they don't need Nascar... :Twocents:
Wow. . did Kasey take a hit. I am guessing 10 years ago the kid would not have walked away.
Jimmy had the car to beat all night. Say what you want. . the guy can drive and Chad is the best is the business.
Anyone can win when they let JJ get away with cheating and more horsepower. :P
:iagree: :icon_smile_angry:
Didn't watch the race. Guess I didn't miss much. Maybe, Nascar should hire new inspectors that aren't paid off.
Boring is an understatement.
First time I ever see the lead car pull away by itself from the draft at a restrictor plate track.
Cynical as I can be.....think Nascar inspectors do exactly what they are hired to do.
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on July 07, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Cynical as I can be.....think Nascar inspectors do exactly what they are hired to do.
yea, they are paid to look away at certain cars....I think "The Fix For Six" is underway
Quote from: A383Wing on July 07, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on July 07, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Cynical as I can be.....think Nascar inspectors do exactly what they are hired to do.
yea, they are paid to look away at certain cars....I think "The Fix For Six" is underway
Yeah, I think the first 5 or 10 top finishing cars are inspected, and then randomly drawn cars are inspected as well.
Jimmie Johnson's qualifying time disallowed
LOUDON, N.H. -- NASCAR Sprint Cup Series points leader Jimmie Johnson will be starting from the rear of the field Sunday after the No. 48 Chevrolet failed post-qualifying inspection.
According to NASCAR officials, the front of the car measured too low on both sides. Johnson was the second-fastest qualifier for Sunday's Camping World RV Sales 301 (1 p.m. ET, TNT), one of 10 drivers to eclipse the track qualifying record.
Defending series champion Brad Keselowski will start on the pole, setting a fast time with a record run of 135.922 mph on the flat 1.058-mile oval. Johnson will line up 43rd. :2thumbs: :lol:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmie-johnsons-qualifying-time-disallowed-221300842--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmie-johnsons-qualifying-time-disallowed-221300842--nascar.html)
good...hope he wrecks as well...not a fan of BK either....
Bryan
Well this kind of stinks, Newman is done at Stewart Haas after this year. But he lost his Army sponsorship after last year, then Quicken Loans is done after this year. The only reason they can bring in Harvick is because he is bringing Bud with him. Not a lot of seats open next year, the openings will be few and far between.
Newman will not return to Stewart-Haas UPDATE - Options for 2014: Tony Stewart was asked about the status of #39-Ryan Newman Friday morning after the announcement that Kevin Harvick was joining Stewart-Haas next season:
WITH THIS ANNOUNCEMENT WITH NOW HAVING THREE DRIVERS FOR NEXT YEAR HOW DOES THIS IMPACT RYAN NEWMAN, HIS PROGRAM, ARE YOU GUYS READY TO EXPAND TO A FOURTH TEAM?
"No, we are not ready to expand to a fourth team. Unfortunately, this will be the last year that we have Ryan (Newman) with us. That's probably what has made this a bittersweet day. I'm bringing in another one of my friends to the organization, but also knowing that I'm losing a friend at the end of the year to the organization. The number one thing when Ryan and I spoke is that our friendship will not change. This was a business decision that was Gene's (Haas) as well as mine and it was a hard decision. There is a personal side and there is a business side. For Ryan and I we had to put the personal bit of it aside to work through the business part. I'll do everything I can to help Ryan in any way I can moving forward to try to help him in his effort to find another team next year. I'm behind him 100 percent. I believe in him 100 percent. I truly wish we were able to facilitate four teams at this time. We are just not able to do that. Down the road I'm sure if that becomes a possibility that he will most definitely will be on the list to fill the fourth seat again."(Chevy PR)(7-12-2013)
yea...saw that last night..feel sorry for Ryan...he'll bounce back
watching the truck race now....on July 24th, Wednesday night, the truck series will race for the first time at Tony Stewart's dirt track at Eldora....should be fun
Bryan
I'm glad Johnson got busted. It's about time. It will make for an interesting race to watch tomorrow as well, just to see if he can work his way back to the front. I won't be rooting for him, but more like against him :D I'm gonna predict another one car parade lap like the Nationwide race.
I say Newman should look for a Nationwide ride. Maybe, even hook back up with Penske.
I have to believe Newman will be scooped up by a Cup team. He's still too valuable to go backwards to Nationwide.
Quote from: Aero426 on July 13, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
I have to believe Newman will be scooped up by a Cup team. He's still too valuable to go backwards to Nationwide.
:iagree:
Quote from: Aero426 on July 13, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
I have to believe Newman will be scooped up by a Cup team. He's still too valuable to go backwards to Nationwide.
I agree too. Up until last week Ryan has been leading his boss in points.
I think he will find a cup ride, probably not a top team, but something.
yep, ryan needs a cup ride. hate to see tony drop him and keep the princess :rotz: guess it doesnt matter if you can drive or not, as long as people will throw money at you. :brickwall:
Budweiser is coming with Harvick also...that may have been a big factor. They will probably provide more money than Newman's sponsor
ok, all is ok. yep, everyone can forget and forgive, cause the princess said she didnt mean to do it. she misjudged. there is your pick tony. :flame:
Glad to see Vickers get a win. :2thumbs:
Only His 3rd carrer win.
Quote from: A383Wing on July 14, 2013, 02:26:05 PM
Budweiser is coming with Harvick also...that may have been a big factor. They will probably provide more money than Newman's sponsor
And that is the only factor. If Harvick did not bring over Bud, there would be no deal. They have no sponsor for Ryan next year, so he is out.
That is one reason Paul Menard is one lucky guy, his dad will always sponsor him. And in this era of NASCAR, a great sponsor is a must.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on July 14, 2013, 03:38:49 PM
Glad to see Vickers get a win. :2thumbs:
Only His 3rd carrer win.
I was happy about that too. :2thumbs:
vickers was definately strong at the end. good finish. felt bad for kurt and ryans finish.
Quote from: nvrbdn on July 14, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
ok, all is ok. yep, everyone can forget and forgive, cause the princess said she didnt mean to do it. she misjudged. there is your pick tony. :flame:
Really? You mean no other driver has made a poor decision and wrecked other people? That is an amazing statistic. ::)
uh, hers seems to be pretty consistant. ::)
Quote from: nvrbdn on July 14, 2013, 06:51:09 PM
uh, hers seems to be pretty consistant. ::)
yea...little Miss Princess Sparkle Pony reads that excuse almost ever week...like it's on a teleprompter in front of her when she's interviewed
I guess I look at it like she is still in her first full year in Cup. Does she make mistakes? Yep. Is she a great driver? Nope. But I'll give her this year and then see what she does next year. At least she admits it if she was in the wrong. There are drivers out there who always say it's the other guys fault no matter what the tape shows**cough cough Busch brothers cough cough**.
i will definately give you that one. some drivers never take the blame. but my biggest problem with this is that i dont feel she came up the way other drivers have to. sponsers putting money behind her just to draw the ticket. it wouldnt be so bad if she was ready. but i feel she isnt. did she ever win a nationwide race? (i still call it bush) did she consistantly finish in the top 10? i think tony had to sign her to get the sponsorship money. then again, i could just be angry cuz my guy is ryan and tony kept her :flame: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: nvrbdn on July 14, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
i will definately give you that one. some drivers never take the blame. but my biggest problem with this is that i dont feel she came up the way other drivers have to. sponsers putting money behind her just to draw the ticket. it wouldnt be so bad if she was ready. but i feel she isnt. did she ever win a nationwide race? (i still call it bush) did she consistantly finish in the top 10? i think tony had to sign her to get the sponsorship money. then again, i could just be angry cuz my guy is ryan and tony kept her :flame: :smilielol: :smilielol:
You can go all the way back to the 90's to talk about people who didn't have to work there way into good rides. Chargerboy69 already said it. If you can bring money with you, you can get a ride. Smart car owners do not spend their own money to finance rides. That's just the way it is now. It's not like the 70's and 80's where guys bought a used car and put a roll cage in it and brought it to the track to try and qualify to try and impress a car owner to get in a funded car. Now teams have driver development programs to bring up younger talent and if your not in those programs, you need to bring money with you ala Paul Menard and Danica Patrick.
They can't find the money with Ryan in the car. Harvick is bringing the money with him, so he gets the ride and not Newman. Same with Danica. They say NASCAR drivers are the best. I say they are the best the sponsers will back. I am sure there is a lot of talent out there that just don't fit the spokesperson model for sponsers.
I'm glad Brian won as well. He did deserve it, but I was really rooting for Kurt. I was also glad to see Tony run out of fuel at the end as well :2thumbs: I'll give him credit though for going for the lobster instead of just points racing.
As far as the Danica debacle, of course she went down a different path to get where she's at. All she had to do was flash a smile and some skin every now and then. Turning a steering wheel and shifting gears was a bonus. Putting sex appeal behind the wheel of a stockcar in a male dominated sport is going to draw interest (and big bucks). You're going to have the feminists that are going to follow her as well as the horny males. That right there is the two biggest markets for her. Will that get more girls into Nascar, not likely. Is she a great driver, no, but she is good, like Dale Jr. Put them both in good equipment, and they both do good. But, they're both out there more for their market interests than they are for their driving abilities.
Quote from: A383Wing on July 13, 2013, 07:53:50 PM
watching the truck race now....on July 24th, Wednesday night, the truck series will race for the first time at Tony Stewart's dirt track at Eldora....should be fun
Bryan
That should be interesting to say the least...
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on July 13, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
I'm glad Johnson got busted. It's about time. It will make for an interesting race to watch tomorrow as well, just to see if he can work his way back to the front. I won't be rooting for him, but more like against him :D I'm gonna predict another one car parade lap like the Nationwide race.
I say Newman should look for a Nationwide ride. Maybe, even hook back up with Penske.
:2thumbs: He will get a good ride somewhere, too good of a driver not to... Back to the boring a$$ draft races again, only more boring racing is the fuel mileage races... gear them things different & get rid of restrictor plates, limit the speed or RPM's by the gearing instead, give them some control back to the drivers, lets see some great racing instead... :Twocents:
NBC to take over part of NASCAR TV package in 2015
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nbc-over-part-nascar-tv-192157045--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nbc-over-part-nascar-tv-192157045--nascar.html)
NASCAR will return to NBC in 2015, ending its eight-year partnership with both ESPN and Turner Sports.
The 10-year deal with NBC Sports Group announced Tuesday begins in 2015 and gives the network the final 20 Sprint Cup Series races of the season and final 19 Nationwide races. NBC last broadcast races in 2006 before ESPN took over its portion of the schedule. NBC will air seven Cup races, while 13 will be on the NBC Sports Network. The Nationwide Series will have four events on NBC and 15 on NBC Sports Network. There are still three Sprint Cup races to be sold, which Herbst believes will move quickly. Lazarus said NBC purchased everything made available to the network, which means the three events not currently held by Fox were not offered.
Anyone watch the trucks practice at Eldora tonight? Going to be an interesting race tomorrow night. :yesnod:
Quote from: General_01 on July 23, 2013, 09:29:30 PM
Anyone watch the trucks practice at Eldora tonight? Going to be an interesting race tomorrow night. :yesnod:
no...I didn't......
(damn)
I forgot about the practice session too :-\
Trucks qualifying today at Eldora .....4PM, Pacific time, Speed Channel
Quote from: A383Wing on July 24, 2013, 09:37:10 AM
Trucks qualifying today at Eldora .....4PM, Pacific time, Speed Channel
:slap: I'll be watchen' for sure, I have #51 Bloomquist {Kyle Busch's truck}& #152 Ken Schrader in my picks for that race, both really good dirt guys, lets hope anyway :popcrn:
I think there's gonna be a lot of banged up trucks tonight
The crew chiefs are gonna have the hardest time tonight. If they've never set up a dirt car before, they're eating dirt. :lol: It will be cool to see the pit crew doing their work though. :popcrn: :popcrn:
Dirt is for racing, asphalt is how you get there :2thumbs:
good heat race. this will be fun.
Quote from: nvrbdn on July 24, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
good heat race. this will be fun.
yea...this dirt track racing needs to be done at a larger track next
i agree, bigger track could add alot of excitement. :2thumbs:
my favorite...Ken Schrader
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2013/07/23/nascar-has-a-rich-but-distant-dirt-past.html
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Budnicks on July 24, 2013, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 24, 2013, 09:37:10 AM
Trucks qualifying today at Eldora .....4PM, Pacific time, Speed Channel
:slap: I'll be watchen' for sure, I have #51 Bloomquist {Kyle Busch's truck}& #152 Ken Schrader in my picks for that race, both really good dirt guys, lets hope anyway :popcrn:
I didn't do so well :brickwall: , #51 Schrader did really well in Qualifying, but not too well in the actual race, #52 Bloomquist was a couple laps down... oh well :slap:
the racing was awesome though. exciting right down to the end. we need more of this stuff. our local dirt track has all the big guns here for the weekend. mabey i need to see a dirt race live again. :scratchchin:
Watched the qualifying races, but fell asleep during commersials :brickwall: Did wake up to catch the last 75 laps and loved every minute of it. Outside of MW's can't shut up commentary, the racing was great :2thumbs: I hope Nascar does more dirt races in the future. At least do a Nationwide race. I doubt that we'll see a Cup race on dirt, but I can dream.
I'm also looking forward to seeing the Nationwide races on NBC. More races I can watch having just an antenna :2thumbs: :woohoo: :woohoo:
any races sat an or sunday,pacific time helpful,,,thanks in advance bored out of grord here today an neck an back pain.. went out an got some apples off my trees for excitment DID NOT WORk,HA HA HA,,....?
did watch trucks on dirt the other day ,liked it an a great change up. few weeks ago spent 9 hrs at cottege grove raceway,clay track,oregon. saw midgets an vintage sprints and wing sprint circut was there. so teams from many states with big semi"s and backup cars,,,the big time for our area.
well was a small car show today but no shade an lots of walking so i had to skip that one.. have a good weekend mopar addicts an race fans. :cheers: :2thumbs: :popcrn:looking too watch a race an relax with some pain pills :D dj
brickyard 400 indy motor speedway sunday at 1 eastern, 12 central on ESPN 10 on the west coast. :2thumbs:
I predict another JJ 400 :eek2: I hope it's not so, but that's the way luck goes.
Newman on the pole for the Brickyard. . . the auditioning for a team is starting.
10 to go Newman is leading JJ :2thumbs: , lets hope he pulls it off
Yeah! Newman!!!! :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Yes. . .way to go Ryan, I am so happy for him.
what an awesome day for ryan. new speed record for the track, pole, and finish on top. indiana boy does it. :2thumbs:
Glad to see Newman win it, but glad to see JJ crew screw up at the last pitstop. Maybe, he should switch crews with Gordon again.
I stumbled across the race on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of empty seats. I was at the first brickyard cup race and the place was packed and jumping!
Quote from: FJ5WING on July 29, 2013, 08:37:29 AM
I stumbled across the race on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of empty seats. I was at the first brickyard cup race and the place was packed and jumping!
I was also surprised by the empty stands, turn 2 and 4 looked 80 percent empty. Even the front stretch looked roughly 70 percent full. It was not like the weather was a factor, sunny and 75 out.
NASCAR as a whole seems way down. Heck, Michigan torn down huge sections of stands so attendance did not look so bad on TV.
I wish I posted that article on the tracks considering tearing down seats to make the stands look fuller. I think Bristol was one of them.
First congrats Newman :cheers: nice win. It made a boring race better.
I also went to the brick yard the first year, won't go back, not enuf action and visibility sucks.
I bet race morning traffic is better with attendance down :slap: Indy is about the event and the history not the on track action. Sadly
The cars are to aero dependent probably no cure ether now it's all about pit road and strategy.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 29, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FJ5WING on July 29, 2013, 08:37:29 AM
I stumbled across the race on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of empty seats. I was at the first brickyard cup race and the place was packed and jumping!
I was also surprised by the empty stands, turn 2 and 4 looked 80 percent empty. Even the front stretch looked roughly 70 percent full. It was not like the weather was a factor, sunny and 75 out.
NASCAR as a whole seems way down. Heck, Michigan torn down huge sections of stands so attendance did not look so bad on TV.
And ESPN is bailing on na$car because of the decline, it's not as profitable as it once was.
ESPN & TNT decided not to renew with NASCAR: According to a Sports Business Daily report, ESPN and Turner ditched NASCAR not the other way around. ESPN and Turner Sports each informed NASCAR in early July that they did not intend to bid on the available television rights packages, Sports Business Journal reported Monday. The rationale was similar for both organizations declining television ratings made NASCAR a less attractive property. Turner, according to the report, "ultimately decided that more NASCAR races weren't worth the investment." ESPN, meanwhile, "had soured on the sport because of declining TV ratings, an aging fan base and a tough ad sales market." The report casts a somewhat negative light on both NASCAR apparently abandoned by two high-profile broadcast partners and NBC Sports, which will pay $440 million per year for rights through 2024.(Sports Media Watch)(7-30-2013)
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 31, 2013, 05:20:46 AM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on July 29, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FJ5WING on July 29, 2013, 08:37:29 AM
I stumbled across the race on Sunday and was shocked at the amount of empty seats. I was at the first brickyard cup race and the place was packed and jumping!
I was also surprised by the empty stands, turn 2 and 4 looked 80 percent empty. Even the front stretch looked roughly 70 percent full. It was not like the weather was a factor, sunny and 75 out.
NASCAR as a whole seems way down. Heck, Michigan torn down huge sections of stands so attendance did not look so bad on TV.
And ESPN is bailing on na$car because of the decline, it's not as profitable as it once was.
ESPN & TNT decided not to renew with NASCAR: According to a Sports Business Daily report, ESPN and Turner ditched NASCAR not the other way around. ESPN and Turner Sports each informed NASCAR in early July that they did not intend to bid on the available television rights packages, Sports Business Journal reported Monday. The rationale was similar for both organizations declining television ratings made NASCAR a less attractive property. Turner, according to the report, "ultimately decided that more NASCAR races weren't worth the investment." ESPN, meanwhile, "had soured on the sport because of declining TV ratings, an aging fan base and a tough ad sales market." The report casts a somewhat negative light on both NASCAR apparently abandoned by two high-profile broadcast partners and NBC Sports, which will pay $440 million per year for rights through 2024.(Sports Media Watch)(7-30-2013)
wow all of them bailing, thanks for the info... I wonder if that new sports network/station
Fox Sports 1 that will be staring in mid Aug. will pick up some of the slack
TNT's coverage sucked....NBC ain't gonna be that much better, I have seen NBC's coverage in the past
Quote from: A383Wing on July 31, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
TNT's coverage sucked....NBC ain't gonna be that much better, I have seen NBC's coverage in the past
X2
TPR
nobody can screw something worse than TNT
oh, there are still plenty of people waiting for coverage to get back on free tv, my dad is one of them!
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 31, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
nobody can screw something worse than TNT
you watch NBC and you will see that there is someone worse...NBC used to cover the races...and I think TNT & NBC are sister companies.... I like FOX's coverage, but the "Mouth of the South" Waltrip needs to go away...both of them, actually
I don't know guys, I like TNT's coverage the best. :shruggy:
I think part of na$cars problem is too much coverage that's useless, track side use to be entertaining and informative now it's a game show wannabe. I miss the old speed channel before fox took over, now with the relaunch if they raise the price I may drop it. Qualifying isn't that exciting at most of the tracks anyway.
I guess what I'm saying is to much of a good thing isn't always good.
My understanding is only a few of the NBC races will be on NBC the rest will be on their sports channel.
I didn't even know they had a sports channel...
Quote from: thedodgeboys on August 01, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
I think part of na$cars problem is too much coverage that's useless, track side use to be entertaining and informative now it's a game show wannabe. I miss the old speed channel before fox took over, now with the relaunch if they raise the price I may drop it. Qualifying isn't that exciting at most of the tracks anyway.
I guess what I'm saying is to much of a good thing isn't always good.
My understanding is only a few of the NBC races will be on NBC the rest will be on their sports channel.
I didn't even know they had a sports channel...
The NBC sports channel is what used to be called Versus.
If Fox picks up more races, they may decide to put some of them on Fox Sports One which leverages you the cable subscriber to decide whether you want to pay for the channel.
any news if RCR Childress is considering a switch to Dodge since they appear to be 3rd in the chevy camp?
Quote from: TONY on August 01, 2013, 11:46:50 AM
any news if RCR Childress is considering a switch to Dodge since they appear to be 3rd in the chevy camp?
RCR going to Dodge for 2014 is a pipe dream. The money from Dodge would have to be right. I mean, REALLY right. Dodge isn't making any noise about coming back. Notgonnahappen.com
oh well, it was something to keep my hopes up
Quote from: TONY on August 01, 2013, 11:52:09 AM
oh well, it was something to keep my hopes up
Would be nice. The '13 Dodge was the best looking car out there.
I really think they are gone for good. They are doing fine without NASCAR. They don't need it. Running in NASCAR does not seem to fit the image of what SRT is trying to do.
kind of on a "somewhat" relate note, I was watching the Sonoma NHRA Race on ESPN2, there was a report that Ford is bailing on NHRA sponsorships too after 2013, it's going to leave a big void, just like when Dodge pulled out of NASCAR... The old "Win on Sunday & sell on Monday", marketing & thinking doesn't, or isn't working in Professional racing any longer, according to the Big 3 {4} marketing dept.'s...
That's only because the cars don't relate to what is on the showroom floor. Put the stock back in stock cars, and marketing will be up.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 02, 2013, 11:29:38 AM
That's only because the cars don't relate to what is on the showroom floor. Put the stock back in stock cars, and marketing will be up.
:2thumbs: agreed
Kyle Busch called Johnson out on fudging the rules a little bit when it came to qualifying. Johnson was slow getting out of inspection before qualifying. Afterwards, they pushed the car out to pit lane later than they should have causing Johnson to go out 4 spots from what he should have. Guess who got the pole :brickwall: Did Johnsons' crew do it on purpose :scratchchin:
On another note, Stenhouse promised his crew dinner everytime he hits the wall. How many times has that happened this year? :slap:
Well, Montoya wrecked 2 other guys on the first lap. This is going to be a long race. :P
Impressive pass by Gordon made by Kayne for the win :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: That pretty much locks him into the Chase
Nice piece of video on Dave Marcis, with some Charger stuff in it too.
http://deansgarage.com/2013/at-age-72-dave-never-really-got-the-message/ (http://deansgarage.com/2013/at-age-72-dave-never-really-got-the-message/)
Casey Kahne won ?? Hopefully... at-least it wasn't JJ or JG... I didn't get to see any of the race... oh well
I haven''t watched a race in many months. Nice to get the time back for other things...
Quote from: Budnicks on August 04, 2013, 05:37:40 PM
Casey Kayne won ?? Hopefully... at-least it wasn't JJ or JG... I didn't get to see any of the race... oh well
Yes he did. JJ crashed when he blew a tire :lol:
Yays!! Kasey won, JJ crashed, Montoya took himself out, Jeff Gordon didn't win
Boos!! Hendrick in winners circle, Montoya took out Matt in the first lap
pretty boring race, actually
I agree, it was pretty boring. Pocono as a whole is usually boring. The last pass for the lead was good though. I don't know really what you could do to Pocono to make it interesting. :shruggy: I think Pocono should be just a one time venture a year, and they should head to a different track.
yea....a 1.5 mile dirt track would get my attention
Looks like Stewart will miss the Chase. I am curious if next year sponsors will "encourage" him to cut down on his extra racing. The guy loves to race anything with four wheels, but now it has messed with his bill paying, meal ticket job.
With Stewart out, this will definitely give Ryan and great chance to make the Chase. :icon_smile_big:
Stewart breaks leg in Sprint Car race, will miss Watkins Glen: Three-time NASCAR champion #14-Tony Stewart will miss this weekend's road course race at Watkins Glen after breaking his right leg in a sprint car race Monday night at Southern Iowa Speedway. A spokesman for Stewart said the 42-year-old driver broke his right tibia and fibula and had surgery after he was transported to a local hospital. An update was expected Tuesday afternoon, and Stewart-Haas Racing did not immediately announce a replacement driver for Stewart's #14 Chevrolet at Watkins Glen, where Stewart is a five-time winner. The team did cancel its scheduled Tuesday test at Atlanta Motor Speedway. The sprint car accident came a day after Stewart finished ninth in the NASCAR race at Pocono Raceway. He's 11th in the Sprint Cup standings with five races to go until the Chase for the Cup field is set. Missing the Watkins Glen race means Stewart likely will miss the Chase. Stewart was leading the 30-lap feature in a 360 winged sprint car with five laps remaining when a lapped car spun in Turn 4 and collected Stewart and two others.(ESPN/Associated Press)(8-6-2013)
Dammit Smoke...he was probably about to go on one of his trademark summer tears and get himself into the Chase. :brickwall:
oh well, in a way its refreshing to see that there are still drivers that say YOLO and race whatever, whenever.
I am just guessing, but it sounds like he may miss more than just one race.
UPDATE: NASCAR Sprint Cup Series driver Tony Stewart underwent surgery on his right leg early Tuesday morning, Aug. 6 after suffering a broken tibia and fibula in a sprint car crash Monday night, Aug. 5 at Southern Iowa Speedway in Oskaloosa, Iowa. Stewart did not sustain any other injuries. The surgery served as a preliminary procedure to stabilize and clean the Grade 2 injury. A second surgery will be necessary. In the meantime, Stewart will remain hospitalized for observation. Stewart was leading the 30-lap American Sprint Car Series (ASCS) feature when a lapped car spun in front of him. Stewart hit the lapped car and flipped. Stewarts injury will prevent him from competing in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series event Aug. 9-11 at Watkins Glen (N.Y.) International. Veteran racer Max Papis will serve as the interim driver for Stewarts #14 Chevrolet at Watkins Glen. Papis tested the #14 Chevrolet on July 30 at Road Atlanta in Braselton, Ga.(Stewart Hass Racing)
AND Tony Stewart posted the following message on Facebook, "I told someone to go get my phone or else I was going to get up and get it myself. Finally got reconnected to the world and just want to say thank you for all the prayers and well wishes. My team will remain strong and I will be back."(8-6-2013)
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 04, 2013, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 04, 2013, 05:37:40 PM
Casey Kayne won ?? Hopefully... at-least it wasn't JJ or JG... I didn't get to see any of the race... oh well
Yes he did. JJ crashed when he blew a tire :lol:
I'm glad to see Kahne won... I would like to see my picks Bowyer & Edwards or Harvick win a few more too :brickwall: ...
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 06, 2013, 10:49:46 AM
Looks like Stewart will miss the Chase. I am curious if next year sponsors will "encourage" him to cut down on his extra racing. The guy loves to race anything with four wheels, but now it has messed with his bill paying, meal ticket job.
With Stewart out, this will definitely give Ryan and great chance to make the Chase. :icon_smile_big:
Stewart breaks leg in Sprint Car race, will miss Watkins Glen: Three-time NASCAR champion #14-Tony Stewart will miss this weekend's road course race at Watkins Glen after breaking his right leg in a sprint car race Monday night at Southern Iowa Speedway. A spokesman for Stewart said the 42-year-old driver broke his right tibia and fibula and had surgery after he was transported to a local hospital. An update was expected Tuesday afternoon, and Stewart-Haas Racing did not immediately announce a replacement driver for Stewart's #14 Chevrolet at Watkins Glen, where Stewart is a five-time winner. The team did cancel its scheduled Tuesday test at Atlanta Motor Speedway. The sprint car accident came a day after Stewart finished ninth in the NASCAR race at Pocono Raceway. He's 11th in the Sprint Cup standings with five races to go until the Chase for the Cup field is set. Missing the Watkins Glen race means Stewart likely will miss the Chase. Stewart was leading the 30-lap feature in a 360 winged sprint car with five laps remaining when a lapped car spun in Turn 4 and collected Stewart and two others.(ESPN/Associated Press)(8-6-2013)
Yeah I saw that too, too bad, I like Tony/Smoke, I like that he drives anything with 4 wheels too...
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 06, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
I am just guessing, but it sounds like he may miss more than just one race.
He will be done for the year. The math does not seem to work in his favor.
TIME TO UNION FOR TIBIAL (large lower leg bone) SHAFT FRACTURES:
- low energy fractures: 10-13 weeks;
- high energy fractures: 13-20 weeks;
- open fractures: 16-26 weeks
---- type 3B & 3C open fractures requires 30 to 50 weeks for consolidation;
- distal tibial fractures may be more prone to non union than proximal fractures due to absence of muscular soft tissue envelope;
- in the report by Anne Skoog et al., the authors studied 64 consecutive patients with a tibial shaft fracture; 12 months after the injury, 44% had not regained full function of the injured leg, although all but two of the patients had returned to preinjury working status;
- references:
---- "One-Year Outcome After Tibial Shaft Fractures: Results of a Prospective Fracture Registry." A Skoog. J Orthop Trauma; 15(3):210-215, March/April, 2001.
---- Wheeless Textbook of Orthopedics, Duke University, online
It's sort of funny that he was asked about wrecking twice earlier this year. He says wrecking a Sprint car is no big deal. Unfortunately, he wrecked last night. Kinda looks like karma bit him.
NO, I'm not happy that he wrecked and broke his leg. The karma though, is something to just :rotz:
Quote from: Aero426 on August 06, 2013, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 06, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
I am just guessing, but it sounds like he may miss more than just one race.
He will be done for the year. The math does not seem to work in his favor.
TIME TO UNION FOR TIBIAL (large lower leg bone) SHAFT FRACTURES:
- low energy fractures: 10-13 weeks;
- high energy fractures: 13-20 weeks;
- open fractures: 16-26 weeks
---- type 3B & 3C open fractures requires 30 to 50 weeks for consolidation;
- distal tibial fractures may be more prone to non union than proximal fractures due to absence of muscular soft tissue envelope;
- in the report by Anne Skoog et al., the authors studied 64 consecutive patients with a tibial shaft fracture; 12 months after the injury, 44% had not regained full function of the injured leg, although all but two of the patients had returned to preinjury working status;
- references:
---- "One-Year Outcome After Tibial Shaft Fractures: Results of a Prospective Fracture Registry." A Skoog. J Orthop Trauma; 15(3):210-215, March/April, 2001.
---- Wheeless Textbook of Orthopedics, Duke University, online
yeah that sounds about right to me too, unless it was just a hairline fracture/break, 8 weeks minimum... under the best of circumstances & then probably, wearing a brace too...
from one moron to another moron
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/9537586/denny-hamlin-calls-kyle-petty-touch-moron (http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/9537586/denny-hamlin-calls-kyle-petty-touch-moron)
Kyle is one of the few who tells it pretty much unfiltered. Not saying he's always right, but I enjoy listening to what he has to say. He ain't no DW.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Kyle is one of the few who tells it pretty much unfiltered. Not saying he's always right, but I enjoy listening to what he has to say. He ain't no DW.
yeah DW and MW dumb and dumber drive me nuts :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
I will take Kyle over any of these guys--> Rusty Wallace, The Waltrip Boobs, Dallenbach (sp?)
Dale Jarrett can stay as long as he wants.....him I like
Hamlin is loosing his respect with me, kinda like Lagano, and Keslowski...all 3 are beginning to act like real "tools"
Quote from: A383Wing on August 07, 2013, 09:24:41 AM
I will take Kyle over any of these guys--> Rusty Wallace, The Waltrip Boobs, Dallenbach (sp?)
Dale Jarrett can stay as long as he wants.....him I like
Hamlin is loosing his respect with me, kinda like Lagano, and Keslowski...all 3 are beginning to act like real "tools"
HAMLIN always has been a tool
For whatever reason, Hamlin seems to have a history of being a little thin skinned. I don't even know that the Kyle Petty comment even warranted a response. If he had just brushed it off or ignored it, it would be out of the news cycle after a day or two. His response just poured gasoline on it.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Kyle is one of the few who tells it pretty much unfiltered. Not saying he's always right, but I enjoy listening to what he has to say. He ain't no DW.
the thing that works against KP as an analyst / opiner is that he used to be a driver himself, and saying that he was not very good or mediocre at best is being kind.
So anytime he says something about a current driver, that driver and/or the kiss ass media will throw it back at him by saying something like "well, what does he know...he sucked when he drove", which deflects from the point hes making (like with the Danica thing a couple months back).
that being said, he does say some really asinine things every so often....
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 07, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Kyle is one of the few who tells it pretty much unfiltered. Not saying he's always right, but I enjoy listening to what he has to say. He ain't no DW.
the thing that works against KP as an analyst / opiner is that he used to be a driver himself, and saying that he was not very good or mediocre at best is being kind.
Where does this come from? The dude has EIGHT Cup wins and eight poles. When he was driving for Sabco, he had his mojo working.
The only knock against Kyle is he stayed too long. People only remember the last years.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Kyle is one of the few who tells it pretty much unfiltered. Not saying he's always right, but I enjoy listening to what he has to say. He ain't no DW.
Yeah Kyle Petty is a good guy...
For those Kyle Petty hatters out there, he's seen done more in probably 10 years of his life racing experiences or helping his grandfather or father, than most that race will do in their whole damn career, he's been there & done that, it's more than just about how many wins or poles you have, obviously or there wouldn't be 43 guys/gal on the track every damn week, trying to prove that point....
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 10:50:51 AM
For whatever reason, Hamlin seems to have a history of being a little thin skinned. I don't even know that the Kyle Petty comment even warranted a response. If he had just brushed it off or ignored it, it would be out of the news cycle after a day or two. His response just poured gasoline on it.
it was mainly his response on what he posted on Twitter for all to see instead of talking to Kyle face to face about what Kyle said.
KP even said on national TV yesterday that he sucked as a driver towards the end...and he knew it
hey, I respect KP for victory junction camp, but as a tv guy He SUCKS, why do we need a color commentator on the race anyway, they never say anything worth hearing, poor Benny Parsons, rest his soul, couldnt come up with the right car number he was talking about to save his life, I quit watching nationwide when Rusty's no driving kid was on there because he would always ignore what was happening on the track to stick up for his kid
I mainly was focus on denny calling someone else a moron
that is the pot calling the kettle black
The final days of Speed Channel
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/08/05/Media/Speed.aspx?app_data={%22pi%22:%2235762_1375796827_291661577%22,%22pt%22:%22twitter%22} (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/08/05/Media/Speed.aspx?app_data=%7B%22pi%22:%2235762_1375796827_291661577%22,%22pt%22:%22twitter%22%7D)
Quote from: Aero426 on August 07, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
The final days of Speed Channel
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/08/05/Media/Speed.aspx?app_data={%22pi%22:%2235762_1375796827_291661577%22,%22pt%22:%22twitter%22} (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/08/05/Media/Speed.aspx?app_data=%7B%22pi%22:%2235762_1375796827_291661577%22,%22pt%22:%22twitter%22%7D)
Thanks, for the info... see ya' SPEED Channel :cheers:
There goes another channel that I usually watch. Guess I'll find something else to do. :rotz: Not much on tv worth watching anymore.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 07, 2013, 09:52:23 PM
There goes another channel that I usually watch. Guess I'll find something else to do. :rotz: Not much on tv worth watching anymore.
:iagree:
It's all about money. Less folks going to see Nascar, less watching. The downward spiral started years ago...
Most of the shows that were on Speed have or are moving to Velocity channel. Stacy David's "Gear's" is moving there too, although, the announcement has not officially been made yet.
I don't get Velocity, so I can't watch it. :bawling:
With Penske guys bashing the 48 car in Cup, Penske chose the 48 number for the Nationwide series with Logano driving it this weekend :hah:
another reason I drop cable tv, was for Direct tv so I could get Velocity. I follow Stacy David on Facebook, and they are even building a new studio for the show that is bigger. He said they are still going to complete all the current projects, and all the past episodes will be able to be seen on their new website once it is up.
Good news looks like fox is increasing the amount they want for the new sports channel by 57 cents, that's probably $5.00 by the time I get the bill in my mailbox. Or I'll have to do some bundling crap I order to have the old speed channel.
Cable providers still negotiating with Fox over Fox Sports 1: NASCAR Sprint Cup Series practice sessions and the Camping World Truck Series race Aug. 17 from Michigan International Speedway will be among the live telecasts on the first day Fox Sports 1 goes on air in place of the Speed cable network. And that could be a problem. Among those still negotiating carriage fees with Fox Sports 1 are DirecTV, Dish and Time Warner Cable. Spokesmen for DirecTV and TWC said Thursday that discussions are ongoing and Dish also has not signed a deal, according to the SportsBusiness Daily. Speed is in nearly 86 million homes, but millions of its current subscribers won't be able to see Fox Sports 1 unless a carriage deal is finalized. According to the SportsBusiness Journal, Speed costs about 23 cents each month per subscriber, and Fox is looking to increase that to 80 cents per month. It's not surprising that these negotiations go down to the wire, but it's enough to make NASCAR fans nervous as the channel they know as Speed will cease to exist when Fox Sports 1 is launched in its place in about a week.(Sporting News)(8-9-2013)
They want 3 x the current rights fees so I can watch mostly stick and ball and a little racing? I don't think so.
Is Gordon washed up, or does he just need a gutsy crew chief like Knauss or even Ray Evernham? Ever since this Cot car came out, he hasn't really been as competitive as he used to be. JJ was winning some races, but not as much as with this car. I know Hendrick shifted some of Gordon's resources over to JJ.
Gordon did take a pretty good lick today at WG. :rotz:
Sort of a surprise driver in the 14 for Sunday at Michigan. Austin Dillon will be driving. It seems that Bass Pro made that decision.
Well, they sponcer him too in Nationwide if I remember right (still half asleep)
Montoya is definitely out of the 42 for next year.
Also, Brian Vickers will be full time driver of the 55. Hope it works out for him.
I'm not a big fan of Austin Dillon....or his brother for that matter
Quote from: A383Wing on August 13, 2013, 06:57:05 PM
I'm not a big fan of Austin Dillon....or his brother for that matter
:Twocents: Spoiled Golden Spoon Fed Grampa's boys :nana: , wrecker or checkers mentality, it's not their money... :slap:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on August 09, 2013, 05:14:11 AM
Good news looks like fox is increasing the amount they want for the new sports channel by 57 cents, that's probably $5.00 by the time I get the bill in my mailbox. Or I'll have to do some bundling crap I order to have the old speed channel.
Cable providers still negotiating with Fox over Fox Sports 1: NASCAR Sprint Cup Series practice sessions and the Camping World Truck Series race Aug. 17 from Michigan International Speedway will be among the live telecasts on the first day Fox Sports 1 goes on air in place of the Speed cable network. And that could be a problem. Among those still negotiating carriage fees with Fox Sports 1 are DirecTV, Dish and Time Warner Cable. Spokesmen for DirecTV and TWC said Thursday that discussions are ongoing and Dish also has not signed a deal, according to the SportsBusiness Daily. Speed is in nearly 86 million homes, but millions of its current subscribers won't be able to see Fox Sports 1 unless a carriage deal is finalized. According to the SportsBusiness Journal, Speed costs about 23 cents each month per subscriber, and Fox is looking to increase that to 80 cents per month. It's not surprising that these negotiations go down to the wire, but it's enough to make NASCAR fans nervous as the channel they know as Speed will cease to exist when Fox Sports 1 is launched in its place in about a week.(Sporting News)(8-9-2013)
What a shocker :nana: I don't think, I would know what to do, if my Comcast Cable bill didn't go up every other damn month, just more freaken' greed :brickwall:
This is interesting I wonder what nascar thinks?
Humpy Wheeler: We got too fancy and messed up NASCAR: One of the most recognizable names in NASCAR says the sport is all messed up and in the need of changes and a serious boost. In a video posted on YouTube on Sunday, "Humpy" Wheeler says racing has gotten "too fancy" and left its fans behind. Wheeler is the former President and General Manager of the Lowes Motor Speedway, in Concord, and is known as one of the foremost promoters in NASCAR history. He now runs The Wheeler Company, a consulting management firm focusing on general business, professional sports, and motorsports. He says he's thought long and hard about what is wrong with NASCAR these days. "I think we've messed it up a little, folks. I think we got too fancy," he said in the video. "I think as it soared back in the 90's a lot of people wanted to change it. They didn't like the way it was, they thought it was too country or too unsophisticated or whatever. And those people were dead wrong."
"We need to put the emphasis on winning. And we need to put the emphasis on leading and passing people as the race progresses. Give points for the repass [...] People in the grandstand are gonna go crazy when we do that." He suggests that NASCAR give winners and leaders bigger bonuses. He says that will make races more exciting and that will bring fans back to the track. He says increases in the quality of TV broadcasting has hurt in-person attendance. "You've got to give them a reason to come back to the ballpark - whether the ballpark is a racetrack or whether it's stadium. Gotta give them a reason to come back. Part of that reason is excitement. That's the whole reason!"(in part from WBTV.com and view the video there)(8-14-2013)
I think the cars are to close or equal to create a lot of passing back in the day the fast guys would come through the field now they have to pass on pit road to get the clean air.
I agree with him :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 14, 2013, 06:46:22 PM
I agree with him :2thumbs:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
An interesting perspective of Nascar from a post on Yahoo:
Unlike many of the NASCAR fans that comment on various websites, I was actually around during the "Golden Age"? of NASCAR. There was a totally different dynamic going on, with an immense gap between the "factory" cars and the independents. In addition, only a handful of teams actually contended for the championship, especially up until the time when the schedule was reduced and the 100 mile events were eliminated. As you pointed out, many races were won by laps, not seconds or fractions thereof.
This is not to say that it was unexciting in the least. In essence, one watched the race differently, as you watch a formula one race differently than an off-road rally, or a sports car race and a dirt-track sprint.
I believe that a big part of the nostalgia for the "old days" was the makeup of the racers themselves. Most were products of the depression and world war two who would otherwise be farmers or factory workers (yes, Americans made things in those days) and not suburban kids nurtured and developed from childhood in go-carts by parents with the means to do so.
It was, in effect, a grittier sport back then, without cool-suits, power steering, and pit crews comprised of well-trained specialists. It was like football played in the rain on a cold, muddy field as opposed to a game played on AstroTurf inside of a climate-controlled dome.
Differences aside, skill, talent, and chemistry prevail. Without a doubt, racing is a team sport. Most drivers and teams have their greatest successes when circumstances and people combine in a way that "clicks". Richard & Maurice Petty & Dale Inman. The Wood Brothers. Junior Johnson and Herb Nab.
Jeff Gordon and Ray Evernham. Tony and Zippy. Harry Hyde with Bobby Isaac and later with Tim Richmond. Richard Childress and Dale Earnhardt. And high on that list has to be Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus.
Yes, their success has come in the Chase era, but what of it? They have won a tremendous number of races in those years, with no sign of letting up. And while NASCAR has only itself to blame for the perception that they seem to favor some teams over others, I cannot envision a conspiracy massive enough to provide 5 championships to one team that could remain clandestine. They are that good.
This is not a ringing endorsement of NASCAR racing as it is today. It is no longer my favorite form of motorsports; perhaps my tastes have changed. Still, to deny talent and success because of one's dislike of outcomes is absurd and, frankly, immature. I do not have to like Kyle Busch in order to recognize his talent. I am free to take pleasure in his failures - in sports it is as important to have someone to root against as it is to root for. As a youngster in 1969, I cringed every time that LeeRoy Yarbrough and Junior Johnson won a race. And while part of Junior's genius lay in finding the, shall we say, gray areas of the rulebook, their success that year was tremendous. I can today think back about LeeRoy and admire him for that special year when he thrashed all of my favorite drivers, and feel good that, as a human being, he had his moment in the sun before his life unraveled so tragically.
And while I am on the subject of perspective, let's examine the uneven success rate of open-wheel racers who have moved to NASCAR. Sam Hornish, Jr., a big success in Indy Car, has had a terrible time transitioning, only becoming adept in the past year and a half. Dario Franchitti had a miserable run in NASCAR. For every Tony Stewart, there have been dozens of open-wheelers who have been unsuccessful in stock cars. Danica Patrick was not a top-tier driver in Indy Car on level with Franchitti or Dixon, but was a solid top-seven driver most of her career. Her current struggles do not diminish the fact of her accomplishments. Any driver, just to be able to compete at the professional level of motorsports, has to be tremendously skilled. The reflexes and concentration required to run even at the back of the pack are beyond the levels most of us are capable of. Scott Pruett, the most successful racer in the Grand-Am series, never was able to achieve much in NASCAR. How many railbirds out there that claim that they could do better than Patrick think that they could fill in for Pruett as well?
Patrick has used her looks and femininity to advance her career. To establish oneself in any sport, one uses any advantage one might possess. In a sport dependent on huge sponsorships, the manipulation of ones assets to advantage is necessary for survival. Michael Waltrip, not so talented as his elder brother, managed a long career with his sense of humor, looks, and geniality. Today, he is the owner of the fastest rising racing organization in the sport. Should he be ashamed of his success? Patrick has brains, talent, looks, and savvy. Enough to make us ordinary folks jealous and resentful, it seems.
- John
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 13, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Montoya is definitely out of the 42 for next year.
Also, Brian Vickers will be full time driver of the 55. Hope it works out for him.
YAY!! (for both.... :2thumbs: )
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 13, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Montoya is definitely out of the 42 for next year.
Also, Brian Vickers will be full time driver of the 55. Hope it works out for him.
Never been a fan of Montoya, can't give a good reason just never cared for the guy.... :Twocents:
:iagree:
Whose gonna hit the jet dryer with him gone?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 16, 2013, 04:26:03 PM
Whose gonna hit the jet dryer with him gone?
:nana: yeah then there's that :brickwall:
i just read the last article on JPM, where he basically said how long does jeff gordon have, the 24 would be nice.
I am not a jeff gordon fan AT ALL, but JPM aint qualified to sit in the 24
Juan needs to go back to where ever he came from, was it Cuba?.....and take his snotty wife back with him
Newman needs to go to the 42, Kurt Busch needs to stay in the car he's in, 78 I think? He has proven he can drive, and Furniture Row has gotten lots of air time with him there.
Hope Vickers does good for the 55 team, even though I'm not crazy about Mickey Big-mouth Waltrip
OK, who did I miss?
Quote from: A383Wing on August 17, 2013, 09:09:01 PM
Juan needs to go back to where ever he came from, was it Cuba?.....and take his snotty wife back with him
Newman needs to go to the 42, Kurt Busch needs to stay in the car he's in, 78 I think? He has proven he can drive, and Furniture Row has gotten lots of air time with him there.
Hope Vickers does good for the 55 team, even though I'm not crazy about Mickey Big-mouth Waltrip
OK, who did I miss?
Junior needs to win more than a race every two years!
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 17, 2013, 08:40:41 PM
i just read the last article on JPM, where he basically said how long does jeff gordon have, the 24 would be nice.
I am not a jeff gordon fan AT ALL, but JPM aint qualified to sit in the 24
Gordon has a lifetime contract with Hendrick.
Good chance that JPM will wind up in sports cars.
Montoya is originally from Columbia. What he'll drive next year, hard to tell. So far, the only cars open are the 42 and the 29. Rumor has it that Kyle Larson might move into the 42. The only deal is, moving him up to quick like Gibbs did Logano. Larson is good, but I'm not for sure if he's good enough for Cup. My bet is that Newman ends up in the 42. I don't know if Austin Dillon is good enough for the 29 just yet.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 17, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Montoya is originally from Columbia. What he'll drive next year, hard to tell. So far, the only cars open are the 42 and the 29. Rumor has it that Kyle Larson might move into the 42. The only deal is, moving him up to quick like Gibbs did Logano. Larson is good, but I'm not for sure if he's good enough for Cup. My bet is that Newman ends up in the 42. I don't know if Austin Dillon is good enough for the 29 just yet.
well said, that sounds about right to me anyway, Dillon needs more time in Nationwide & Trucks, wrecking Grampa's cars :nana:
Quote from: Budnicks on August 18, 2013, 01:58:42 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 17, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Montoya is originally from Columbia. What he'll drive next year, hard to tell. So far, the only cars open are the 42 and the 29. Rumor has it that Kyle Larson might move into the 42. The only deal is, moving him up to quick like Gibbs did Logano. Larson is good, but I'm not for sure if he's good enough for Cup. My bet is that Newman ends up in the 42. I don't know if Austin Dillon is good enough for the 29 just yet.
well said, that sounds about right to me anyway, Dillon needs more time in Nationwide & Trucks, wrecking Grampa's cars :nana:
Dillion's already headed to cup in the 3 car if Newman or bush don't take the 29 it gets renumbered back to the 3. That's one reason why harvick left no room at the inn with grampas boys moving up.
Maybe Martin will take the 42 part time and be a coach for Larson?
Being that Budweiser is going with Harvick, it is possible that the 29 might not race next year. That would allow 1 more year for Dillon to get more practice in Nationwide with just part time rides in the Cup, possibly in the 3 or 29. It would mostly depend on sponsorship though. Of course, what sponsor would refuse the 3? :scratchchin:
I remember reading a couple weeks ago RCR was considering moving to a four car team next year which would allow Newman to take over the 29 and Dillon to run a new 3 team, it all depended on sponsorship. Harvick has done well at RCR, but he is about their only driver that is competitive. Taking over the spot at EGR would suck. Unfortunately for Newman, I feel both rides are a big step down.
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 17, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
Junior needs to win more than a race every two years!
Now this is just my opinion. . . Junior is not there to win races, he is there for the big time sponsorship money he brings in and his merchandise sales. Some owners could run two teams off the cash Junior is bring in. The kid is usually competitive, and more often than not in the Chase, but he has never been a race winner like Jimmie, Stewart, Kyle Bush, Hamlin, ect. . His popularity helps pay the bills.
yeah i understand the machine, he can race for as long as he wants to, whether he wins or not. that works for the sponsors, hendrick and the many people that work there.
however, if junior thought he would never win races again, all he was gonna do was compete for a top 5 or 10 every week, he would quit.
I'll give him credit that he has been doing better. When he first signed on, he wasn't doing any better than the guys driving the 25 car. But, since he got Gordon's crew chief, he's at least been consistant up front. Before, he was either wrecking in the first 50 laps, or the last 50. But, I will agree that he's there only to sell merchandise.
Ray Evernham needs to be Gordon's crew chief again. They made an awesome pair. Maybe, they'd give JJ and Chad a run for the money.
Is this race going to just run under yellow all day? :icon_smile_angry:
Johnson blew up :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 18, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
I remember reading a couple weeks ago RCR was considering moving to a four car team next year which would allow Newman to take over the 29 and Dillon to run a new 3 team, it all depended on sponsorship. Harvick has done well at RCR, but he is about their only driver that is competitive. Taking over the spot at EGR would suck. Unfortunately for Newman, I feel both rides are a big step down.
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 17, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
Junior needs to win more than a race every two years!
Now this is just my opinion. . . Junior is not there to win races, he is there for the big time sponsorship money he brings in and his merchandise sales. Some owners could run two teams off the cash Junior is bring in. The kid is usually competitive, and more often than not in the Chase, but he has never been a race winner like Jimmie, Stewart, Kyle Bush, Hamlin, ect. . His popularity helps pay the bills.
:2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 18, 2013, 01:11:32 PM
Johnson blew up :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
:2thumbs: :cheers: :smilielol:
Logano won??????????? Not a surprise for a Penske car, but Logano?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 18, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
Logano won??????????? Not a surprise for a Penske car, but Logano?
well, shit that Logano won, but glad JJ blew up
You know I really did like Stewart, and for the most part thought he was a straight up guy. Now I see they have offered Kurt Busch a 4th car ride for next year. Now originally they were dumping Ryan because there was no 4th team, they were not ready for one. Then they could not find a sponsor for him, but yet him and Gene Haas would sponsor Kurts car. It was said Ryan and Stewart were best of friends, with friends like him, who needs enemies. As far as I am concerned Stewart can go "F" himself with his crutches he is hobbling around on. What a total douche bag.
And yes, I am a pissed off Newman fan.
Kurt Busch headed to Stewart-Haas? Stewart Haas Racing has submitted a formal offer to #78-Kurt Busch to drive a fourth Sprint Cup entry beginning in 2014, multiple NASCAR sources have confirmed to ESPN.com. The proposed deal would team Busch with team owner Tony Stewart, Kevin Harvick and Danica Patrick in the SHR stable. Asked for confirmation Sunday, SHR spokesman Mike Arning submitted the following statement via email: "Stewart-Haas Racing constantly strives to improve itself, and expansion is something that is often discussed. If the right opportunity presents itself, it's something the team will certainly consider." Busch was unavailable for comment Sunday night. Sources said Haas/CNC would sponsor Busch's car, should he choose to sign with SHR. Busch has performed quite well this season in the #78 Chevy from Furniture Row Racing, but team sources say FRR has yet to offer him a contract extension.(ESPN)(8-19-2013)
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 08:10:13 AM
Sources said Haas/CNC would sponsor Busch's car, should he choose to sign with SHR.
This is the strange part. Because any time you see Haas on the car, it means they did not have sponsorship "sold" for that race. So they are saying they would put Busch in a car, but the don't have a full time sponsor - at least to announce now.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 19, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 08:10:13 AM
Sources said Haas/CNC would sponsor Busch's car, should he choose to sign with SHR.
This is the strange part. Because any time you see Haas on the car, it means they did not have sponsorship "sold" for that race. So they are saying they would put Busch in a car, but the don't have a full time sponsor - at least to announce now.
Unless they just want to get Kurt signed and are hoping a sponsor will come along. Then again maybe they can not find anyone who wants to sponsor his attitude.
Kurt is a past champion and a very good driver, but still has a personality issue.
I think it'd be Kurts' best interest to stay at Furniture Row if he has the option. He has been pretty consistent over there, and has learned to control his temper out in public more often. If he blows up in the car, they're keeping that hush hush.
I was following the race over at Nascar.com. They had to stop the in car audio because someone in the 48 camp was throwing profanity out quite often before his engine grenaded :rofl:
im on board on the tony can go &*)(*&^^%$%^#%^#^%$^&%&*^)(. another pissed off ryan fan.
really happy with the JJ stuff going on. wish it would wait and happen in the chase :D
Kurt is doing well where he is. if he jumps, i know he has to do what is best for him, but i will not root for him in tony's camp.
break another leg tony :yesnod:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 08:10:13 AM
You know I really did like Stewart, and for the most part thought he was a straight up guy. Now I see they have offered Kurt Busch a 4th car ride for next year. Now originally they were dumping Ryan because there was no 4th team, they were not ready for one. Then they could not find a sponsor for him, but yet him and Gene Haas would sponsor Kurts car. It was said Ryan and Stewart were best of friends, with friends like him, who needs enemies. As far as I am concerned Stewart can go "F" himself with his crutches he is hobbling around on. What a total douche bag.
And yes, I am a pissed off Newman fan.
Kurt Busch headed to Stewart-Haas? Stewart Haas Racing has submitted a formal offer to #78-Kurt Busch to drive a fourth Sprint Cup entry beginning in 2014, multiple NASCAR sources have confirmed to ESPN.com. The proposed deal would team Busch with team owner Tony Stewart, Kevin Harvick and Danica Patrick in the SHR stable. Asked for confirmation Sunday, SHR spokesman Mike Arning submitted the following statement via email: "Stewart-Haas Racing constantly strives to improve itself, and expansion is something that is often discussed. If the right opportunity presents itself, it's something the team will certainly consider." Busch was unavailable for comment Sunday night. Sources said Haas/CNC would sponsor Busch's car, should he choose to sign with SHR. Busch has performed quite well this season in the #78 Chevy from Furniture Row Racing, but team sources say FRR has yet to offer him a contract extension.(ESPN)(8-19-2013)
Very interesting, thanks for sharing...
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 08:26:08 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on August 19, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 08:10:13 AM
Sources said Haas/CNC would sponsor Busch's car, should he choose to sign with SHR.
This is the strange part. Because any time you see Haas on the car, it means they did not have sponsorship "sold" for that race. So they are saying they would put Busch in a car, but the don't have a full time sponsor - at least to announce now.
Unless they just want to get Kurt signed and are hoping a sponsor will come along. Then again maybe they can not find anyone who wants to sponsor his attitude.
Kurt is a past champion and a very good driver, but still has a personality issue.
He has toned it down some, maybe he's grown up a little, he's a damn good driver thou...
Quote from: Budnicks on August 19, 2013, 02:50:03 PM
He has toned it down some, maybe he's grown up a little, he's a damn good driver thou...
I agree, he is a very good driver, and any team would be lucky to have a driver with his skills.
With that being said, I do not know if I trust him just yet. True, we have not heard anything about Kurt this year at all, I am just not convinced. And to take Ryans spot, just another strike against him. ;)
mark Martin will be driving the 14 for the rest of the year for Stewart except for talladega
What if Kurt is to take over the 14 car and Tony and Mark split a car next year???
I guess Vickers is going to run the rest of the year in the 55? :popcrn: :popcrn: That'll be good. He might make the rest of the year interesting.
I don't think Tony will be interested in a part time ride. I also don't think that Kurt will be in the 14 if he goes over there. It'll probably be the 39 since Harvick will be in the 4. Martin could share a ride with someone in the 39
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 17, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Larson is good, but I'm not for sure if he's good enough for Cup. My bet is that Newman ends up in the 42.
Larson will get the #42 ride. He is under contract with Ganassi for eight years. The weekend of the Road America Nationwide race in June, Larson was going to drive a local sprint car. That got nixed because the story was, that he had a meeting to be introduced to the Target people. Sounds like he is locked into that deal. They have no doubts in his abilities because he can handle high HP sprint cars.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on August 19, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on August 19, 2013, 02:50:03 PM
He has toned it down some, maybe he's grown up a little, he's a damn good driver thou...
I agree, he is a very good driver, and any team would be lucky to have a driver with his skills.
With that being said, I do not know if I trust him just yet. True, we have not heard anything about Kurt this year at all, I am just not convinced. And to take Ryans spot, just another strike against him. ;)
I don't/wouldn't hold it against Kurt, that's the nature of the business, but I still like Ryan too, I hope he settles in somewhere, where he can thrive & win....
Truck race is on right now on that new Espn channel Fox 1
Rodney Childers is leaving MWR and going to be Harvick's crew chief next year. That might put a dent in the 55 next year, even though Vickers will be in it full time. :scratchchin:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 23, 2013, 11:12:10 AM
Rodney Childers is leaving MWR and going to be Harvick's crew chief next year. That might put a dent in the 55 next year, even though Vickers will be in it full time. :scratchchin:
Yah makes one wonder if they would have let Mark leave early if they would have known Childers was leaving, not much of a head start for Vickers now.
Dang it I almost missed all the Bristol Race, 51 to go, I didn't think of looken' over at ABC for race coverage...
I missed most of it too. Only saw maybe 50 or 70 laps
Congrats to Kayne for giving a clean race, even though he had several opportunities to spin out Kenseth. Kenseth won, and JJ rear ended a guy and ruined his night. :2thumbs:
kurt busch signed an agreement to join stewart haas racing to expand their team to 4 drivers. :brickwall:
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 27, 2013, 02:04:07 PM
kurt busch signed an agreement to join stewart haas racing to expand their team to 4 drivers. :brickwall:
Yup when he was the only fish in the pond , he has settled down and been great again . Being just another fish on a 4 man team . I can see this going bad very fast . :Twocents:
Team meetings should be interesting. As someone put it, they are the most "personality rich" team in NASCAR.
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 27, 2013, 02:04:07 PM
kurt busch signed an agreement to join stewart haas racing to expand their team to 4 drivers. :brickwall:
I was reading an article that said Gene Haas courted Kurt Busch on his own and told him he would pay for the team if no sponsor could be found. Sounds like Tony was left out of the loop on this one. :shruggy:
I want to know what Stewart Haas is really thinking? I call it a bonehead move to jump to a 4 car team. Wouldn't it make mores sense to get your current cars more competitive? I use Childress as an example. When he went to a 4 car team, the whole team suffered. Losing one car and redistributing his resources to the other cars benefitted the whole team. Roush is another example of this as well. This is why Penske doesn't go to a 3 car team. Stewart Haas is not a front runner team. I call them a 2nd rate team at best much like Earnhardt Ganassi. They have their moments, but they're not consistent enough.
As far as Kurt, :brickwall: He should have stayed where he was at if he could, and continued rebuilding his reputation. Right now, he is the center of attention at Furniture Row. He will not get the same attention or resources at SH. If he, or Harvick are successful, I predict that those resources will be redirected to Stewart and maybe even Danica, leaving them both 2nd fiddle. Bad call in my opinion. :rotz:
I think it's going to be great.....
:slap:
The 42 cars driver is being announced this Friday at 2:30 I bet it's Larson :cheers:
Maybe Newman will go to the 78 now that its available :shruggy: I would hate to see him as a 4th car at Childress.
Big question, will the 3 be back for Dillon?
Stewart says they can't afford a 4 car team and dumps Newman in favor of Harvick? Now after all this crap...Stewart-Hass can make a 4 car team now? I call BS....
I think it was wrong for Kurt to leave the 78 team...he has basically built them from nothing...
:iagree:
I hope Kurt does well... :popcrn: I'm not a Debbie doubter :nana: :rofl: or an A-Typical Kurt hater either :RantExplode: now wreckers or checkers Kyle is a completely different Busch bros. all together... I think the guy/Kurt has an extreme amount of driving/racing ability & talent {so does Kyle, but I really don't like that guy}, only if he/Kurt learns how to deal with the media {those A--Holes could also give the guy a little bit of a break too, yanken' his chain & provoking him all the time, freaken' no talent wanta-bees} & Kurt learns how to respect his people, that are on the radio with him, trying to help him, they also could shut the hell up sometimes too, he's driving... I know most all the BS over the radio is in the heat of the moment too, driving at speeds that you could get hurt really bad or killed, emotions will & should be running high... Their adrenaline is at it's peak 1000% going around the track, it's not easy to just shut it off like a light switch, like so many of them Robot drivers seem to do nowadays... IMHFO it's become the damn wussification of NASCAR {like most sports are today}, they can't say chit, with out being fine, unless it's Jr. JJ or Jeff Gordon, they Nascar say "have it it boys", then Nascar spank them for having any outburst or personality that isn't like one of the damn Robots spouting all the same Nascar Kool-Aid Drinken' media crap & they wonder why they have lost viewership ??.... I doubt much if any of radio BS, is taken all that personally, buy the crew either, it's typical media over-blown media hype, commentator BS to fill too much damn air time & all the PC wanta-bee's media followers, that jump on that band wagon... I personally think he can be the best driver on the Newman Haas team now, don't get me wrong, I still really like Tony always have & I still like Ryan & think he's a top teer driver too, but Kurt has also proven that he can drive also win & with far less resources than many of the other "so called marque or top teer drivers", have available to them.... I see it as a great move for Kurt, he has mellowed some so far, maybe he has actually learned his lesson, maybe he will be like a train wreck you can't help but watch too... IMHFO it's just the nature of the business, drivers move all over the place, all the time now, it ain't 1969 anymore... :Twocents: not meant to ruffle any feathers, it's just what I see
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these came from somebody here... :lol:
Boners, F-Bombs, And GoDaddy: Inside NASCAR's 18,359 FCC Complaints (http://jalopnik.com/boners-f-bombs-and-godaddy-inside-nascars-18-359-fc-1198992552)
I hope Kurt does well also, I just don't see it happening. Where he is at now with the 78 team, it's one car, one driver, all one team doing what they do best, run up front & win races. Now he's going to be part of a 4 team unit and probably not be as good as he is now....I think he's gonna get lost in the shuffle
The Dillon brothers need to stay in Nationwide series as far as I'm concerned....something about those 2 kids bug the shit outta me, besides riding Grampa Richard's money train.
NASCAR driver Truex has fractured wrist
CORNELIUS, N.C. (AP) -- An MRI has confirmed that Martin Truex Jr. fractured his right wrist in a wreck during Saturday night's race at Bristol.
Michael Waltrip Racing said Tuesday that that Truex has a scaphoid fracture and sprain. He's been fitted with a special cast that allows him to grip the steering wheel and he is expected to finish the season after being cleared by NASCAR.
Truex currently holds the first wild card position with two races to go to set the 12-driver field for the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship.
MWR said it has not yet determined if a stand-by driver is needed for this weekend's race in Atlanta.
Quote from: Ponch ® on August 27, 2013, 07:45:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these came from somebody here... :lolBoners, F-Bombs, And GoDaddy: Inside NASCAR's 18,359 FCC Complaints (http://jalopnik.com/boners-f-bombs-and-godaddy-inside-nascars-18-359-fc-1198992552)
Ponch, I especially like the one claiming the Nascar & Bill France, is teaming up with the KKK to spy on the WH, of all places T-Mobile & Verison, some idiot extremist wacko-nut-job... some are just really too funny... I do somewhat agree with the some of the complaining about, all the damn erectile dysfunctional commercials constantly,
it's really too much sometimes, let alone all the rest of the Pharmaceutical commercials bombarding the airways today... I wouldn't waste my breath complaining about it to Nascar or the commission thou, it's big money they wont ever turn that $$$$$$$$$ down... I actually like most of the goDaddy, beer & burger commercials they were all complaining about thou...
Yeah I can think of a few posters on here too, that would send in complaints, like those.... I'm not sure why they even air any of the radio conversations between crews & drivers ever anyway, it doesn't need to be aired, they know that cussing type crap happens all the time... I think it's kind of for media shock factor or something along those lines, coverage is so bad, it's kind of constant editorialized, filling dead air time, just show the race & comment on it only... IMHFO I'm not really sure why they can't have a 10sec.-30sec. delay at-least, to catch a bulk of the f-bombs etc. from being aired... The Beyoncé gyrating deal, that was another funny one too, but IMHFO that stuff shouldn't be aired either, not on the Super Bowl Half time anyway, they can always air that stuff latter, when children aren't watching, when it's mostly adults are the audiences... Just like all the shock jock factor crap, borderline pornography on stage, on of the MTV Awards same type deal... It doesn't bother me really, but I don't have small children in the house any more just my perverted dirty old Pops :drool5: :drool5: all over, when anything in a skirt is showed on the screen...LOL...
Quote from: A383Wing on August 27, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
I hope Kurt does well also, I just don't see it happening. Where he is at now with the 78 team, it's one car, one driver, all one team doing what they do best, run up front & win races. Now he's going to be part of a 4 team unit and probably not be as good as he is now....I think he's gonna get lost in the shuffle
The Dillon brothers need to stay in Nationwide series as far as I'm concerned....something about those 2 kids bug the shit outta me, besides riding Grampa Richard's money train.
me too :2thumbs:
i too rooted for kurt in the 78. but now that tony dumped ryan, (mostly because im a ryan fan) i will turn my back on stewart haas racing. and not that my measley rooting from my home chair is going to make a difference on the track, will not root for stewart haas in the future. never been a danica fan or a kevin harvick fan, so no loss there. but wanted to see kurt stay put. oh well, may be the next home for ryan now. :shruggy:
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 28, 2013, 08:10:45 AM
i too rooted for kurt in the 78. but now that tony dumped ryan, (mostly because im a ryan fan) i will turn my back on stewart haas racing. and not that my measley rooting from my home chair is going to make a difference on the track, will not root for stewart haas in the future. never been a danica fan or a kevin harvick fan, so no loss there. but wanted to see kurt stay put. oh well, may be the next home for ryan now. :shruggy:
that would be cool , Ryan might just fit in good on furniture row . :scratchchin:
cant forget the problems tony and kevin have had with kurt in years past. This will be interesting.
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 28, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
cant forget the problems tony and kevin have had with kurt in years past. This will be interesting.
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Kick Danica out of the 10 and put in Kyle Busch, you'll have the most controversial team in Nascar. You'll have a team that will definitely have PR problems cause neither one of these drivers know how to keep their mouths' shut and they ain't afraid to use the bumper for a win.
i still like too watch nascar ,but the anouncers only knew 2 names or were having a contest last race. as too who could say kurt or kyle the most times ,even if they were at the back of the pack. pissed me off which did keep me awake,i guess.
seems i just root for a under dog or the older drivers. cant or dont care enough to remember all the new no name or race cred crop of newbees... but sure running out of the good old drivers too root for.like mark martin,lebounty,,sp,, few old names left in the game. will root for jr,or smoke.
seem to allways root for montoya,dannika an the bushy sisters ,k an k to hit the wall or blow up :Twocents:
MISS the old days,drivers an CARS that looked like a real car ,not a canverted 4 door ,front drive pile of plastic...... :Twocents: :Twocents: :D :D :D few more an i will hit 1000 post :2thumbs: :cheers:
Labonte breaks 3 ribs in bike riding accident
TRINITY, N.C. (AP) -- Bobby Labonte broke three ribs in a bike riding accident Wednesday near his North Carolina home and will miss this weekend's NASCAR race in Atlanta.
A spokesman for the driver said Labonte was taken to a hospital by ambulance and will be held overnight for observation.
Labonte was scheduled to drive the No. 51 Chevrolet for Phoenix Racing at Atlanta Motor Speedway. He'll be replaced in the car by Mike Bliss.
Labonte's consecutive starts streak came to an end earlier this season at 704 races when JTG Daugherty Racing used AJ Allmendinger at Kentucky in June instead of Labonte.
The 2000 NASCAR champion had not missed a start since he began racing full-time in the Cup Series in 1993. He's won 21 races Cup races.
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 28, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
Labonte breaks 3 ribs in bike riding accident
TRINITY, N.C. (AP) -- Bobby Labonte broke three ribs in a bike riding accident Wednesday near his North Carolina home and will miss this weekend's NASCAR race in Atlanta.
A spokesman for the driver said Labonte was taken to a hospital by ambulance and will be held overnight for observation.
Labonte was scheduled to drive the No. 51 Chevrolet for Phoenix Racing at Atlanta Motor Speedway. He'll be replaced in the car by Mike Bliss.
Labonte's consecutive starts streak came to an end earlier this season at 704 races when JTG Daugherty Racing used AJ Allmendinger at Kentucky in June instead of Labonte.
The 2000 NASCAR champion had not missed a start since he began racing full-time in the Cup Series in 1993. He's won 21 races Cup races.
This and the selling of Phoenix Racing just made for an all around bad day for Labonte. The new owner has named Justin Algier as the driver for the car when he takes over. Looks like Bobby will be using his down time to search for a ride.
It's looking more and more like Haas went behind Tony's back. I think he's going along with it because it's a done deal, but I bet he is pretty pissed that Haas went behind his back.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/co-owner-gene-hass-put-together-kurt-busch-stewart-haas-racing-deal-082813#!hWNaM
Again I will say it..."That just sucks for Ryan the way this played out"
the more I think about it, the madderer I get....
I think that is what pisses Tony off the most. Gene sat back and listened to Tony talk about having to let Ryan go because they aren't ready to start a 4th team and then Gene starts a 4th team. Then, while Tony is laid up, cinches a deal with Kurt to drive it. Gene made Tony look like an ass in this whole Newman business. :flame:
exactly....I hope Ryan gets a ride that puts him way ahead of those 4 drivers now.....
me too. :flame:
Quote from: General_01 on August 28, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
It's looking more and more like Haas went behind Tony's back. I think he's going along with it because it's a done deal, but I bet he is pretty pissed that Haas went behind his back.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/co-owner-gene-hass-put-together-kurt-busch-stewart-haas-racing-deal-082813#!hWNaM
Who wrights this shit....
officials are now scrambling to make room at an organization that will double from two cars in 2012 to four next season.
This is 2013 and they have 3 cars this year.
I think it's funny bad deal for Newman but funny how its playing out at the new Hass-Stewart shop. It didn't take them long to break ground on the new building kind of like they already had blueprints and such ready to go.
so he is going to run it modeled after hendrick's 24/5 and 48/88 shops.
Guess that means that harvick and kurt will be sharing a building, very interesting indeed, maybe when these two drivers fight the crews wont have to get involved and stand up for their driver :icon_smile_big:
i think hendrick wanted an 8 car team.
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 28, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
i think hendrick wanted an 8 car team.
This is essentially what has happened.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on August 28, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: General_01 on August 28, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
It's looking more and more like Haas went behind Tony's back. I think he's going along with it because it's a done deal, but I bet he is pretty pissed that Haas went behind his back.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/co-owner-gene-hass-put-together-kurt-busch-stewart-haas-racing-deal-082813#!hWNaM
Who wrights this shit....
officials are now scrambling to make room at an organization that will double from two cars in 2012 to four next season.
This is 2013 and they have 3 cars this year.
I think it's funny bad deal for Newman but funny how its playing out at the new Hass-Stewart shop. It didn't take them long to break ground on the new building kind of like they already had blueprints and such ready to go.
I think making 4 teams was a plan down the road, just not for next year. I think Tony would rather get the 3 teams running consistently first before spending money and resources on a 4th team.
Personally, I don't think Kurt has changed one bit. This year at the beginning you still heard excerpts of Kurt on the radio. They quit playing his radio outbursts and only play the nice stuff off his radio now(Remember the Days of Thunder tribute?). Also, he doesn't have the pressure and media scrutiny because he is on a lower tier team. They aren't expected to win. Next year there will be a lot more media coverage and a lot more pressure.
I guess the bright side is that Tony just needs to go to the team meetings to punch Kurt in the mouth instead of waiting to be called to the NASCAR hauler with Kurt to do it. :lol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 28, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
Labonte breaks 3 ribs in bike riding accident
TRINITY, N.C. (AP) -- Bobby Labonte broke three ribs in a bike riding accident Wednesday near his North Carolina home and will miss this weekend's NASCAR race in Atlanta.
A spokesman for the driver said Labonte was taken to a hospital by ambulance and will be held overnight for observation.
Labonte was scheduled to drive the No. 51 Chevrolet for Phoenix Racing at Atlanta Motor Speedway. He'll be replaced in the car by Mike Bliss.
Labonte's consecutive starts streak came to an end earlier this season at 704 races when JTG Daugherty Racing used AJ Allmendinger at Kentucky in June instead of Labonte.
The 2000 NASCAR champion had not missed a start since he began racing full-time in the Cup Series in 1993. He's won 21 races Cup races.
Another one bites the dust, they're dropping like flies lately... damn
I have always liked Kurt and he gets a bad wrap for not being a personable guy but this is a great local morning show interview he did He came off to me as a great down to earth guy .
http://www.entercomkc.com/fjd/2013/71713/Kurt%20Busch%207-16.mp3
ive felt he gets more of a bad rap also. i know he went off, but ive heard alot of the "favorites" do the same. i feel a microphone shouldnt be shoved into a face right after some idiot takes someone out. and the in car tantrums of quite a few of the top drivers have been cut short.
They all go off, but Kurt is on another level
The same level as Kyle :rofl:
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 29, 2013, 11:10:19 AM
They all go off, but Kurt is on another level
More like the most publicized. Media creates a person's image. One slip and you're branded for life.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 29, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 29, 2013, 11:10:19 AM
They all go off, but Kurt is on another level
More like the most publicized. Media creates a person's image. One slip and you're branded for life.
yeah, he has been branded for a while now, but if he was smart, he wouldnt have been caught for the last two big things he did, telling that reporter on camera that he was being restrained, or he would have beat the S#*t out of him, and the one before that with jerry
Quote from: moparstuart on August 29, 2013, 08:31:38 AM
I have always liked Kurt and he gets a bad wrap for not being a personable guy but this is a great local morning show interview he did He came off to me as a great down to earth guy .
http://www.entercomkc.com/fjd/2013/71713/Kurt%20Busch%207-16.mp3
:2thumbs: yeah he sounds like a great personable guy there for sure :2thumbs:
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 29, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 29, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 29, 2013, 11:10:19 AM
They all go off, but Kurt is on another level
More like the most publicized. Media creates a person's image. One slip and you're branded for life.
yeah, he has been branded for a while now, but if he was smart, he wouldnt have been caught for the last two big things he did, telling that reporter on camera that he was being restrained, or he would have beat the S#*t out of him, and the one before that with jerry
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 29, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
ive felt he gets more of a bad rap also. i know he went off, but ive heard alot of the "favorites" do the same. i feel a microphone shouldnt be shoved into a face right after some idiot takes someone out. and the in car tantrums of quite a few of the top drivers have been cut short.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 21, 2013, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on August 17, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Larson is good, but I'm not for sure if he's good enough for Cup. My bet is that Newman ends up in the 42.
Larson will get the #42 ride.
he got it...I'm not all that sure about him yet...time will tell
ESPN reporting that Jeff Burton will be out at RCR at the end of the season. That should clear the way for Ryan Newman.
Penalties from the post truck race slap of Max Papis should be announced later today.
i will take anything right now for ryan. just wanna get something lined up. :2thumbs:
I'm surprised it took Burton this long to lose his ride. I think it's time that he steps out like Ward and mentor Jebb.
The likely situation is that RCR has worked out a deal with a satellite team that they supply chassis and engines to. They are talking about Jeff running a car for Tommy Baldwin Racing. TBR gets their stuff from RCR.
Mike Skeen's belligerant girlfriend indefinitely banned from NASCAR events for the Papislap. Video if you haven't seen it.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-09-04/max-papis-slap-mike-skeen-girlfriend-kelly-heaphy-banned-penalized?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-09-04/max-papis-slap-mike-skeen-girlfriend-kelly-heaphy-banned-penalized?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter).
Skeen is a talented road racer who was competing in trucks at Mosport. He normally runs up front in SCCA World Challenge.
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 04, 2013, 11:29:28 AM
i will take anything right now for ryan. just wanna get something lined up. :2thumbs:
RCR will not be a bad ride for him. I still feel it is a small step down, but it is a ride.
i agree that it wont be on the same level. but he will be on the track.
look what Kurt Busch did with a "no name" team in the 78....I think Ryan would be good for RCR...
Quote from: A383Wing on September 04, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
look what Kurt Busch did with a "no name" team in the 78....I think Ryan would be good for RCR...
:2thumbs: I agree
Fox is showing that Montoya is visiting the 78 crew. :scratchchin:
if they were smart, they would show him the door and slam it in his ass on the way out
right. :yesnod:
Quote from: A383Wing on September 05, 2013, 05:19:17 PM
if they were smart, they would show him the door and slam it in his ass on the way out
:icon_smile_big: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: A383Wing on September 04, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
look what Kurt Busch did with a "no name" team in the 78....I think Ryan would be good for RCR...
:2thumbs: yep & me too
race was kinda slow .then end looked good for newman an joey l to get out off chase. but late caution all booo edwades wins with funny restart.. joey in ,,boo j gordan out of chase??
well time to go drive in traffic allways more fun being all wund up from watching a race,,ha ha hah :o :RantExplode: :shruggy: :'( :slap: :drool5: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :brickwall: :nana:
Congrats to the drivers that made the chase.
To bad for Newman He was so close.
Joey and Truex Jr did good, And Kurt made it after all He's been through,
Good race Today.
Not a Joey fan, but him in is better than Gordon....I hope the 48 still has bad luck the rest of the season
congrats to all who made the Chase
I'm glad Kurt made the Chase,BUT why wasn't Edwards black flagged? I think there's a deal about not beating the leader to the Start/ Finish line. Where's the consistency? Several other times, a driver has been black flagged a time or two for doing so. Edwards was one of them.
now that newman is out of the chase, the one good thing about leaving stewart haas is that he wont have to deal with that sucky pit crew he has. they constantly over the last two years lost him spots on the track. now i understand the difference in 2 tires and 4, but constantly that crew lost spots.
funny that his so called team mate martin only takes 2 tires to land right in front of newman and doesnt take off and even comes up the track when ryan tries to go to the middle on the restart. i would have thought that the team would try to get one of their cars in the chase and not hold him up.oh well, im a bit bias and glad i wont root for a hendrick car or team at all now.
glad jj had a horrible night and little jeffy didnt make the chase. dont like logano, but he is better than gordon.
ok, done with my rant.
edwards should have been penalized, but wasnt. kurt should have won the race.
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 07, 2013, 10:24:42 PM
edwards should have been penalized, but wasnt. kurt should have won the race.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
What about that cheating Bowyer in the 15 spinning out to keep Newman from winning the race...
What Junior thinks
http://youtu.be/kQAnmbXcuLE
and the NA$CAR feed his in car sure tells the story..
http://youtu.be/FWjmF__8VXc
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/09/08/clint-bowyer-spin-martin-truex-jr-ryan-newman-chase-richmond/2781487/
What say you?
Yea, Bowyer sure screwed it up for Ryan, the race was his, I never did like that guy. If I were Ryan a little payback would be heading Clints way, and more than just once.
Of course NASCAR knows what happened, heck I watched the race from my recliner in Indiana and I knew what happened. Oh well.
yep, exactly. boyer cheated. then he attempted to blame jr.
well newman is free to inflict punishment to waltrips whole team now. but he probably wont.
I agree that it stinks for Ryan, but this has been going on since Nascar teams have been in existence. Heck, somebody on here was saying how they thought Martin wasn't being a good teammate to Ryan because he took two tires and beat Ryan out of the pits and then took his line away. So if he did get out of Ryan's way, that would have been OK, but Bowyer spinning out to help his teammate is wrong. :shruggy:
Don't get me wrong. I have been bitching about teammates helping teammates since the beginning. Watching drivers block so their teammate can win(even when they are laps down), intentionally spinning to facilitate a restart to help a teammate who is in second but is 5 seconds behind the leader, a driver wrecking a low level team car to bring out the caution, etc. It's all the same BS.
Quote from: General_01 on September 08, 2013, 10:17:37 AM
I agree that it stinks for Ryan, but this has been going on since Nascar teams have been in existence. Heck, somebody on here was saying how they thought Martin wasn't being a good teammate to Ryan because he took two tires and beat Ryan out of the pits and then took his line away. So if he did get out of Ryan's way, that would have been OK, but Bowyer spinning out to help his teammate is wrong. :shruggy:
Of course it is wrong. . . Ryan is my driver and I am not the least bit going to be fair and impartial. :icon_smile_big:
Ryan came in 1st.and lost the lead while pitting, his pit crew stunk all night. So if Ryans crew could have stepped it up and got him out in front, Clints spin would not have even mattered.
In regards to the caution, why did everyone pit anyway? It was 5 laps to go. Newman had the spot, and the dominant car at that point, he could have just stayed out along with 6 or 7 other drivers and could have won.
Anyway, Newman bashing his crew is just his way of making himself look forward to a fresh start with a new team next year.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 08, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
In regards to the caution, why did everyone pit anyway? It was 5 laps to go. Newman had the spot, and the dominant car at that point, he could have just stayed out along with 6 or 7 other drivers and could have won.
I agree totally. If your crew is not the best, why give them a chance to F it up like they did. . . Should have stayed out.
everyone seen how much faster 4 tires were than none. the guys with fresh tires were on fire. for 3 laps could he have held the field off if he were the only one to stay out? who knows. i highly doubt it. as far as martin taking ryans line. all he had to do was hold his line and make ryan go around. when ryan moved up the track, he went with him. almost like he was trying to hold him up. oh well, its over. i will quit the b^%chin. football is back, so i can adjust my frustration over there. :yesnod:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 08, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
oh well, its over. i will quit the b^%chin. football is back, so i can adjust my frustration over there. :yesnod:
I agree, but my Steelers got spanked today.
So my football team is going to suck this year and my driver is out of the Chase. :P ;)
Quote from: chargerboy69 on September 08, 2013, 11:01:36 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 08, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
In regards to the caution, why did everyone pit anyway? It was 5 laps to go. Newman had the spot, and the dominant car at that point, he could have just stayed out along with 6 or 7 other drivers and could have won.
I agree totally. If your crew is not the best, why give them a chance to F it up like they did. . . Should have stayed out.
Speaking of new teams did anyone see Childress come over to Newman just before the start of the race?
nope, missed it, but the rumor is that ryan will get the 31 next year. so it fits. :2thumbs:
wonder if Jeff Burton is gonna "retire" or look for a part time ride
Quote from: A383Wing on September 08, 2013, 09:00:46 PM
wonder if Jeff Burton is gonna "retire" or look for a part time ride
I'm hearing TV when the new network takes over???
I like him better than the Waltrip Idiots, or Rusty, or Dallenbach
At least NASCAR is looking into the spin....
UPDATE - NASCAR Investigating: With one suspicious snap of the steering wheel, Clint Bowyer changed the outcome of a race and maybe the championship, too. Accidental or intentional, his spin in the closing laps at Richmond International Raceway set in motion a chain of events that has shrouded the start of the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship and raised many questions about the potential for a race team to manipulate pivotal moments of a race. Now NASCAR is reviewing evidence to determine if Michael Waltrip Racing deliberately altered Saturday night's race, potentially costing both #39-Ryan Newman and #24-Jeff Gordon spots in the Chase, to benefit MWR driver #56-Martin Truex Jr.
I guess this is just like F1 and ALMS. There are team orders, but no one will admit it, but yet, everyone knows about it.
Simple... Since it seemed to be team orders, fine each team driver 25 points and the one who spun out 100 points. Both would be out and Newman and Gordon in. And no one will ever do something like that again.
good idea. i like it :2thumbs:
Well, the official announcement came today, but everyone knew it was going to happen. Ryan to RCR, I thought Matt Borland was going with him though. :shruggy:
Newman named to drive the #31 CAT Chevy for RCR: Richard Childress Racing has signed Ryan Newman to drive the #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet SS in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series starting in 2014. Newman, 35, is a 17-time NSCS race winner with 50 pole awards to his credit; and is the 2008 Daytona 500 and 2013 Brickyard 400 champion. "This is a great opportunity for our team," said Richard Childress, president and CEO of RCR. "I am very proud to have Ryan in our #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet starting next year. We have high expectations for this #31 team. Ryan has proven himself to be a great driver and I'm looking forward to winning races with him. Luke Lambert will be his crew chief and the team is staying together next year. That team is building momentum to not only finish out this year strong, but to get even better in 2014. Ryan will be a great fit with CAT and RCR in many ways. He's an outdoorsman, a conservationist and is very familiar with CAT equipment as an owner of some of their products."
A native of South Bend, Ind., Newman earned an engineering degree from Purdue University in 2001. "I'm very pleased Richard and I were able to put this deal together for me to drive RCR's #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet," Newman said. "About five years ago, Richard and I talked about me joining RCR before I signed with my current team, but things just didn't work out. However, we were able to make it happen this time and I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my career. RCR has a long history of winning races and championships, and I want to add to that tradition. I am very excited to work with Caterpillar. They are a world-class company and I look forward to learning more about them. Since I'm already a customer of theirs, I can honestly say they make incredible equipment. One important thing I sincerely want everyone to know is how much I respect and admire Jeff Burton as a person and driver. He handled his recent announcement and situation with respect, class and dignity. We're going to finish this season strong with the #39 team and give it our all to win races. Then, I'll concentrate on working with Luke Lambert and the other members of RCR as we get ready for 2014." Announcements on sponsors in addition to Caterpillar will be made at a later date.
"We are excited to have Ryan Newman driving the #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet SS in 2014," said Greg Towles, NASCAR Program Director for Caterpillar. "Ryan's racing accomplishments are well known and, when coupled with his knowledge of machinery and passion for the outdoors, he aligns well with Caterpillar customers, dealers and employees."(RCR)(9-9-2013)
:2thumbs: thanks for posting
Good for newman, but if I was tony or richard, I'd bless 10 weeks worth of payback
Oh and dont forget gordon, no i am not a fan, but him and clint already have history, I'd look for more in the coming weeks.
Glad to hear Newman is heading to the 31. I do hope that he doesn't have to play 2nd fiddle to Austin and gets decent cars and equipment.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on September 09, 2013, 12:49:11 PM
Well, the official announcement came today, but everyone knew it was going to happen. Ryan to RCR, I thought Matt Borland was going with him though. :shruggy:
Newman named to drive the #31 CAT Chevy for RCR: Richard Childress Racing has signed Ryan Newman to drive the #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet SS in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series starting in 2014. Newman, 35, is a 17-time NSCS race winner with 50 pole awards to his credit; and is the 2008 Daytona 500 and 2013 Brickyard 400 champion. "This is a great opportunity for our team," said Richard Childress, president and CEO of RCR. "I am very proud to have Ryan in our #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet starting next year. We have high expectations for this #31 team. Ryan has proven himself to be a great driver and I'm looking forward to winning races with him. Luke Lambert will be his crew chief and the team is staying together next year. That team is building momentum to not only finish out this year strong, but to get even better in 2014. Ryan will be a great fit with CAT and RCR in many ways. He's an outdoorsman, a conservationist and is very familiar with CAT equipment as an owner of some of their products."
A native of South Bend, Ind., Newman earned an engineering degree from Purdue University in 2001. "I'm very pleased Richard and I were able to put this deal together for me to drive RCR's #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet," Newman said. "About five years ago, Richard and I talked about me joining RCR before I signed with my current team, but things just didn't work out. However, we were able to make it happen this time and I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my career. RCR has a long history of winning races and championships, and I want to add to that tradition. I am very excited to work with Caterpillar. They are a world-class company and I look forward to learning more about them. Since I'm already a customer of theirs, I can honestly say they make incredible equipment. One important thing I sincerely want everyone to know is how much I respect and admire Jeff Burton as a person and driver. He handled his recent announcement and situation with respect, class and dignity. We're going to finish this season strong with the #39 team and give it our all to win races. Then, I'll concentrate on working with Luke Lambert and the other members of RCR as we get ready for 2014." Announcements on sponsors in addition to Caterpillar will be made at a later date.
"We are excited to have Ryan Newman driving the #31 Caterpillar Chevrolet SS in 2014," said Greg Towles, NASCAR Program Director for Caterpillar. "Ryan's racing accomplishments are well known and, when coupled with his knowledge of machinery and passion for the outdoors, he aligns well with Caterpillar customers, dealers and employees."(RCR)(9-9-2013)
:Twocents: good fit for Ryan :2thumbs:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 09, 2013, 04:45:15 AM
At least NASCAR is looking into the spin....
UPDATE - NASCAR Investigating: With one suspicious snap of the steering wheel, Clint Bowyer changed the outcome of a race and maybe the championship, too. Accidental or intentional, his spin in the closing laps at Richmond International Raceway set in motion a chain of events that has shrouded the start of the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship and raised many questions about the potential for a race team to manipulate pivotal moments of a race. Now NASCAR is reviewing evidence to determine if Michael Waltrip Racing deliberately altered Saturday night's race, potentially costing both #39-Ryan Newman and #24-Jeff Gordon spots in the Chase, to benefit MWR driver #56-Martin Truex Jr.
Of course the whiner Jeff Gordon will claim that, like none of the Hendricks teams never would think of pulled any of that kind of stuff, to get Jimmy or Jeff any of their championships or into the running at-least... It takes one to know one for sure :Twocents: IMHFO it's just another good reason for NASCAR to drop the multi-car super teams...
well dropping the multi car teams is a dream that will never happen, the sponsors prefer them
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 09, 2013, 04:19:03 PM
well dropping the multi car teams is a dream that will never happen, the sponsors prefer them
Yeah I relies that, but it causes many actual racing problems too...
NEWMANS IN THE CHASE!!! TRUEX OUT!!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Sprint-Cup-Martin-Truex-booted-from-Chase-Ryan-Newman-to-take-his-spot-090913
ha ha thats awesome :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 09, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
ha ha thats awesome :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
I agree. $300,000 fine for MWR as well. Pretty amazing they did the right thing.
i have to give it to nascar, but i think the thing that cemented it was for the two cars to let logano pass in order to knock gordon out of the top ten. when they weighed everything, it all fell into place. i agree, pretty amazing that they made the decision to do it.
Amazing information... I still would have like to of seen the 15 get penalized chase points :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
CONCORD, N.C. - NASCAR announced Monday night that Ryan Newman will replace Martin Truex Jr. in the Chase because of Michael Waltrip Racing's actions in Saturday night's race at Richmond International Raceway.
NASCAR docked all three Michael Waltrip Racing drivers and cars 50 points each. Those penalties came before the reset of the points. That drops Truex to 17th in the standings (691 points) and behind Newman, allowing Newman to make the Chase.
NASCAR also fined Michael Waltrip Racing $300,000 and indefinitely suspended general manager Ty Norris. All three MWR crew chiefs were placed on probation until Dec. 31.
Watch Toyota drop them now too :lol:
Quote from: Budnicks on September 09, 2013, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 09, 2013, 04:19:03 PM
well dropping the multi car teams is a dream that will never happen, the sponsors prefer them
Yeah I relies that, but it causes many actual racing problems too...
actually, i think the shared information and R&D have made the cars faster, it's NASCAR putting them in a box that makes the racing SUCK
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 09, 2013, 07:55:56 PM
Amazing information... I still would have like to of seen the 15 get penalized chase points :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
CONCORD, N.C. - NASCAR announced Monday night that Ryan Newman will replace Martin Truex Jr. in the Chase because of Michael Waltrip Racing's actions in Saturday night's race at Richmond International Raceway.
NASCAR docked all three Michael Waltrip Racing drivers and cars 50 points each. Those penalties came before the reset of the points. That drops Truex to 17th in the standings (691 points) and behind Newman, allowing Newman to make the Chase.
NASCAR also fined Michael Waltrip Racing $300,000 and indefinitely suspended general manager Ty Norris. All three MWR crew chiefs were placed on probation until Dec. 31.
WOW! I Cant believe they followed through on that, happy newman is in, but holy cow, nascar surprised me. I figured they fine clint and let it go.
That hurts Michael Waltrip's credibility big time. I would be pissed if I was a sponsor and know that this happened. I think Nascar should go ahead and put Gordon in the Chase as well. That'll give one more car to contest the 15 unless the 15 and 24 swap places. :scratchchin:
what kind of make up session is newman gonna need with his crew now?
Quote from: General_01 on September 09, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 09, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
ha ha thats awesome :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
I agree. $300,000 fine for MWR as well. Pretty amazing they did the right thing.
ESPN just reported $300,000 per car. If true, thats a huge fine. . . three cars.
Great to see Ryan in.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2013, 09:31:11 PM
I think Nascar should go ahead and put Gordon in the Chase as well.
NO!!
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 09, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
what kind of make up session is newman gonna need with his crew now?
The good thing is that he said it as a matter of fact. They didn't come through when it was needed most and you have to come through if you want to win championships. Heck, Tony said the same thing and look what happened there. Also, it's not like they swapped them for somebody else's pit crew ala' Gordon and Johnson.
Hopefully they realize they need to get better and with the penalties to MWR allowing them to get in the Chase they will pick it up and use the opportunity to show they are a better pit crew than they have been showing. :2thumbs:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on September 09, 2013, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: General_01 on September 09, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 09, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
ha ha thats awesome :boogie: :boogie: :boogie:
I agree. $300,000 fine for MWR as well. Pretty amazing they did the right thing.
ESPN just reported $300,000 per car. If true, thats a huge fine. . . three cars.
Great to see Ryan in.
Penalty was $300k total. On Nascar.com, MW claims that Vickers spotter acted alone on his decision to have Vickers pit.
For Jeff Gordon, who missed the Chase by a single point when Logano made up the two positions at the end of the race, there's no relief. Gordon will not be in the Chase. And he was not happy about it.
"Take me out of this completely," Gordon Tweeted. "At this point all that matters to me is if @NASCAR decides to fix this then fix it completely!"
Helton said putting Gordon into the Chase, as well, was not something NASCAR was prepared to do.
"The way we go about these is we look at the incident and only the incident, because we know from experience that if you try to look at the ripple effect of an incident, you can't cover all those bases," said Helton. "You can't ever come up with a conclusion that is equitable and credible across the board. So we simply look at the incident and react to the incident, and whatever our reaction may create that has a ripple effect to it, as well, is what it is. But our focus is around the incident and what we were going to do to react around it; not the ripple effect of the incident or the ripple effect of our reaction."
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2013, 10:37:30 PM
MW claims that Vickers spotter acted alone on his decision to have Vickers pit.
The spotter also happens to be the General Manager of the entire MWR operation. That is the significance.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 09, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 09, 2013, 10:37:30 PM
MW claims that Vickers spotter acted alone on his decision to have Vickers pit.
The spotter also happens to be the General Manager of the entire MWR operation. That is the significance.
Michael Waltrip Racing Statement: Michael Waltrip Racing accepts the penalties issued by NASCAR this evening and plans to move forward in the 2013 season. Michael Waltrip, founder and co-owner of MWR: What occurred on the #55 radio at the end of Saturday nights race in Richmond was a split-second decision made by team spotter Ty Norris to bring the #55 to pit lane and help a teammate earn a place in the Chase. We regret the decision and its impact. We apologize to NASCAR, our fellow competitors, partners and fans who were disappointed in our actions. We will learn from this and move on. As general manager, Ty Norris has been an integral part of Michael Waltrip Racing since its founding and has my and (co-owner) Rob Kauffmans full support. (MWR)(9-9-2013)
So the indefinitely suspended Ty Norris, MWR Executive Vice President/General Manager and spotter for the #55 car will not be appealed according to Waltrip, that's going to be tuff on Ty.
I'm still mad the 15 didn't get penalized post chase points, maybe they will park him for the first 50 laps on pit road this weekend??? :slap:
There was nothing really to indicate that he did it deliberately. Just Jr's testimony. :scratchchin:
maybe gordon will have something to say about how the points are gathered in the chase for boyer.
and nascar cant fix all the ripple. a win was taken away from newman. winners payout was taken away. the trophy was taken away. watchin tony the cripple trying to get to the winners circle would have been fun to see. oh well, nascar cant fix all the ripples, but at least they did something.
or did they?????????? :scratchchin: who made them think????? :scratchchin: did rick hendrick pressure nascar?? :scratchchin: waltrip knocked a hendrick chassis and engine out of the chase. :scratchchin: tony and rick are friends. :scratchchin: JR made all the claims on national T.V. :scratchchin:
who made nascar wake up and check this out???? :scratchchin:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 10, 2013, 07:44:43 AM
who made nascar wake up and check this out???? :scratchchin:
It was on page 3 of the New York Times. The story was on the verge of getting out of control.
NASCAR got it from every angle. The media, the competitors, the fans. People were seriously pissed. Did you see Ricky Craven on ESPN yesterday? You could see the anger in his eyes.
this shit happens all the time from NASCAR them selves , mystery cautions for Mystery debris on the track . Just to close the race back up . This stuff is nothing new .
Quote from: moparstuart on September 10, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
this shit happens all the time from NASCAR them selves , mystery cautions for Mystery debris on the track . Just to close the race back up . This stuff is nothing new .
Right. It is not new at all. It is just the timing of how this particular incident went down. It still smells bad.
if you are napa, or 5 hour energy, what do you do? will there be any flack from them? :shruggy:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 10, 2013, 11:12:14 AM
if you are napa, or 5 hour energy, what do you do? will there be any flack from them? :shruggy:
I don't think there will be any repercussions from the sponsors. Certainly not from NAPA as Truex did not do anything wrong.
clint called ryan to appologise for his actions. ryan said they were supposed to do a hunting trip together in a week and a half so he hoped they could settle things before that.
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 10, 2013, 11:12:14 AM
if you are napa, or 5 hour energy, what do you do? will there be any flack from them? :shruggy:
They haven't said anything on their websites as of yet. :popcrn:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 10, 2013, 11:41:04 AM
clint called ryan to appologise for his actions. ryan said they were supposed to do a hunting trip together in a week and a half so he hoped they could settle things before that.
ha..we'll see if it gets "settled" on the track next race
I think this is a good example of where sponcers and multi car teams have to much power over the drivers and teams.
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 10, 2013, 07:44:43 AM
maybe gordon will have something to say about how the points are gathered in the chase for boyer.
and nascar cant fix all the ripple. a win was taken away from newman. winners payout was taken away. the trophy was taken away. watchin tony the cripple trying to get to the winners circle would have been fun to see. oh well, nascar cant fix all the ripples, but at least they did something.
or did they?????????? :scratchchin: who made them think????? :scratchchin: did rick hendrick pressure nascar?? :scratchchin: waltrip knocked a hendrick chassis and engine out of the chase. :scratchchin: tony and rick are friends. :scratchchin: JR made all the claims on national T.V. :scratchchin:
who made nascar wake up and check this out???? :scratchchin:
I think your reaching just a little much there buddy :icon_smile_big: :D :cheers:
I have to wonder if they went easy on Bowyer based on his 1\8 inch infraction a few years ago when he was with Childres and his car was bent to much :'( :'( :'(
It seems like MWR could lose a sponsor or two in spite of their manipulations on the track.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/napa-says-launching-review-determine-future-michael-waltrip-142004776--nascar.html
Johnson thinks Nascar should be more like baseball and football.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2013/09/11/jimmie-johnson-advocates-change-nascar-sprint-cup-series.html
now they are investigating Logano (22 car) for having a role in this as well....
If Nascar would drop the Chase, they probably wouldn't have this problem
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 11, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
If Nascar would drop the Chase, they probably wouldn't have this problem
bingo
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 11, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
If Nascar would drop the Chase, they probably wouldn't have this problem
:cheers: :yesnod:
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 11, 2013, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 11, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
If Nascar would drop the Chase, they probably wouldn't have this problem
:cheers: :yesnod:
Damned "chase" is just a marketing tool they are playing with. :rotz:
the chase was an attempt to add some scale of excitement back into the last weeks of the year. a driver or two that have done well, walk away from the field and it is basically over. the only thing we didnt know, was what place everyone else would fall into. well now a guy that had a melodramatic year can make the chase with no wins, get turned on at the end, and smoke the field, while the guy that has produced all year can have one bad race in the chase (or get taken out) and his year is over in a flash. doesnt seem fair somehow, (unless its my driver that wins). :smilielol:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/09/12/vickers-has-no-regrets-says-helping-teammate-within-rules/2807453/
i'm going to have to totally agree with mr vickers :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: :nana:
actually, it is a very well thought out and written speech. and there is alot of honesty in it. teams do it all the time.
Tune into Fox 1 if you can. There's a press conference going on at 2:55 pm cst from Mike Helton. :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
leave here at 3, home at 3:40 :brickwall:
next race day an time please??? thanks alot.. best place ta find info of times on air? DJ :popcrn: :cheers:
Penske and Front Row racing are being put on probation.
Jeff Gordon is going into the Chase as a 13th competitor due to the circumstances.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 13, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
Penske and Front Row racing are being put on probation.
Jeff Gordon is going into the Chase as a 13th competitor due to the circumstances.
big f n suprise hendrick got his way :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
Quote from: djcarguy on September 13, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
next race day an time please??? thanks alot.. best place ta find info of times on air? DJ :popcrn: :cheers:
try www.nascar.com for race times & channel
let's see drive like crap all year, deserved to be out, now in... yep, NASCAR
HendDICK owns Nascar. They always get their way, money talks and bullshit walks, look at the history. If they put Gordon in, they should put Truex in also. Truex did nothing wrong, but he doesn't drive for HenDICK.
Nascar was looking at penalizing MWR as a whole, not just a particular driver. Because Gordon suffered due to the actions of Bowyer, which coincided with the actions of the spotter of the 55, France obviously thought that to be fair, Gordon should be in as well as Newman. Being that Newman was allowed in because of the penalty, it was the right thing to do to put Gordon in. I don't see what the hubbub is all about, Gordon doesn't seem Championship caliber this year anyway. He just gets mentioned on tv a little bit more. :rofl:
Hendrick probably told France he would not run next year in Cup if they didn't put Gordon in the Chase.
Quote from: A383Wing on September 13, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Hendrick probably told France he would not run next year in Cup if they didn't put Gordon in the Chase.
There's too much money at stake for Hendrick to even propose that idea.
New revisions in the spotters' areas:
Initial officiating revisions that were announced and will take effect Sunday are:
�Spotters only on spotters' stand (one per team)
�Spotters' stand limits: Two analog radios, scanners, Fan Views
�Video camera will be installed on spotters' stand
If you got Facebook, and love the older Nascar cars, I found a new group for just that. It also covers ASA and USAC. I like it. A lot of cool photos are getting posted in it.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/When.Racing.Was.Racing/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/When.Racing.Was.Racing/)
The rules fudge, exemption, change or what ever they want to justify it as, just to let whiner Jeff Gordon :angel: & Ryan Newman {who I like actually} in to the Chase Championship Points Race, almost any other teams it would have just bee, tough chit !! when they didn't make it in points or enough wins to qualify for the tie breakers :hah: is complete & total BS... IMHFO it also makes NASCAR even that much more irrelevant anymore... If it was a Hendricks team guy instead of Clint Bowyer that purposely spun, to benefit their team Hendrick's teams mates, nothing would have been done "at all", the grand kissing Hendrick's teams arses & the lame NASCAR Points Penalties or Lack of in Hendrick's teams cases "Hypocrisy" :brickwall: ... I know quite a few other like me, long time racing in-general & also NASCAR fans, that will soon not even be watching or even be a fan anymore, it's becoming ridiculous lately... Does Hendrick's team, have photos of the France family screwing a family of sheep or something ??...LOL... I'm sure this has been covered already, but I needed to vent... :Twocents:
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 10, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
I think this is a good example of where sponcers and multi car teams have to much power over the drivers and teams.
:2thumbs: yep too much influences IMHFO anyway
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 11, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
If Nascar would drop the Chase, they probably wouldn't have this problem
:2thumbs: Bingo we have a winner :cheers:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 13, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
Nascar was looking at penalizing MWR as a whole, not just a particular driver. Because Gordon suffered due to the actions of Bowyer, which coincided with the actions of the spotter of the 55, France obviously thought that to be fair, Gordon should be in as well as Newman. Being that Newman was allowed in because of the penalty, it was the right thing to do to put Gordon in. I don't see what the hubbub is all about, Gordon doesn't seem Championship caliber this year anyway. He just gets mentioned on tv a little bit more. :rofl:
IMHFO he didn't earn the right to be there or actually
race his way into a spot... :Twocents:
Gordon was in the spot until Bowyer spun it.
Montoya is out of Nascar. He's racing for Penske in the Indy car series next year. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
good..let him go...hope he never comes back to Nascar
there's a few other drivers that need to go away also...but that's another story
:iagree: :yesnod:
NAPA dropping Waltrip after Richmond scandal
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/napa-leaving-waltrip-richmond-scandal-140926375--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/napa-leaving-waltrip-richmond-scandal-140926375--nascar.html)
"NAPA Auto Parts said Thursday it is dropping Michael Waltrip Racing at the end of the year in the fallout of the team's attempt to manipulate a race to get Martin Truex Jr. into NASCAR's version of the playoffs.
Napa is Truex's primary sponsor and in the first year of a three-year extension announced last August. The deal ran through the 2015 season.
''NAPA believes in fair play and does not condone actions such as those that led to the penalties assessed by NASCAR,'' NAPA said in a statement. ''We remain supportive of the millions of NASCAR fans and will evaluate our future position in motorsports.''
The company issued a harsh rebuke of MWR last week after NASCAR sanctioned the organization for its shenanigans in the Sept. 7 race at Richmond. MWR was punished for deliberately manipulating the outcome of the race in an attempt to get Truex into the 12-driver Chase for the Sprint Cup championship field.
NASCAR took the unprecedented step of kicking Truex out of the Chase in favor of Ryan Newman, who would have made it into the field instead of Truex before the MWR manipulations began with seven laps remaining at Richmond. MWR was also fined $300,000, general manager Ty Norris was suspended indefinitely and all three crew chiefs for its drivers were placed on probation for the rest of the year."
MORE TO READ ON THE LINK
I wonder who's next :scratchchin: 5 hour energy?
Wow. There must have been an ethics clause that allows NAPA to get out of the contract. That is a big hit for MWR.
I am surprised that NAPA took it that far as Truex is the face of the brand and he had nothing to do with the situation.
Michael was more of the face for Napa than Martin was. Either way, there's big bucks open for somebody next season. My bet is that Richard Childress will get the sponsorship deal. Maybe, Kurt Busch.
I will bet it is 50/50 whether they even come back to sponsor a team.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 17, 2013, 02:46:15 AM
Montoya is out of Nascar. He's racing for Penske in the Indy car series next year. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Well one thing's for sure...it's going to be a lot safer for the track dryers next year..................
:smilielol: ^^^^
Quote from: Aero426 on September 19, 2013, 12:50:36 PM
I will bet it is 50/50 whether they even come back to sponsor a team.
I agree. . . Its not cheap to sponsor a NASCAR team and they may have wanted out, and this provided them the out they were looking for.
Quote from: chargerboy69 on September 19, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 19, 2013, 12:50:36 PM
I will bet it is 50/50 whether they even come back to sponsor a team.
I agree. . . Its not cheap to sponsor a NASCAR team and they may have wanted out, and this provided them the out they were looking for.
Could be ???? Maybe they will sponser the old bush series now that nationwide is leaving http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2013/09/18/Nationwide.aspx
The NAPA series sound much better...
Oh wow....
Quote from: wingcar on September 19, 2013, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on September 17, 2013, 02:46:15 AM
Montoya is out of Nascar. He's racing for Penske in the Indy car series next year. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Well one thing's for sure...it's going to be a lot safer for the track dryers next year..................
It'll probably be safer for everyone next year.
There seems to be a problem with JJ. I believe I heard that his qualifying time will be disallowed. We'll have to wait to hear more about it. :popcrn:
Newman got the pole :2thumbs:
yea. good job ryan :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on September 17, 2013, 09:17:31 AM
good..let him go...hope he never comes back to Nascar
there's a few other drivers that need to go away also...but that's another story
I AGREE out ya go Montoya,,,bye bye yes the track crew will bee safer,haha,...
NOW who else needs a swift boot in the arss an kicked too the curb??? ??? ??? :icon_smile_question: :shruggy: :D :D :nana: :popcrn: :scratchchin:
cant watch the Nationwide race today...they have it on ESPNEWS and I don't get that channel...oh well
Quote from: A383Wing on September 21, 2013, 03:22:17 PM
cant watch the Nationwide race today...they have it on ESPNEWS and I don't get that channel...oh well
Me either. No biggy, Kyle Busch will most likely win anyway again :P
ESWHD is espnews here, and the race is on. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on September 21, 2013, 06:37:16 PM
ESWHD is espnews here, and the race is on. :2thumbs:
yea...I checked my channels...it's "402" up here..and I'm not authorized to get it.....of all the 500 or so channels available to me, we only watch maybe 33 of them....
same here. we only watch a few. i thought of dropping some of em then the wife will say,"see, its a good thing we still have this channel". :smilielol:
20 government channels, maybe 100 or so Spanish channels, plus a bunch of others....useless to me, I tried to convince my cable company to just let me pay for the channels I wanted.....they got no sense of humor
my next step down in the package deals is just the "local" channels here in the area....like 2 though 13....
pisses me off!!
Quote from: A383Wing on September 21, 2013, 06:49:35 PM
20 government channels, maybe 100 or so Spanish channels, plus a bunch of others....useless to me, I tried to convince my cable company to just let me pay for the channels I wanted.....they got no sense of humor
my next step down in the package deals is just the "local" channels here in the area....like 2 though 13....
pisses me off!!
Same here and the price is annoying too.
yea..that's my biggest complaint...I'm paying $90 a month for 33 channels that we watch the entire year...and the rest is junk as far as I am concerned.....next step down is like $30 a month for just the 10 or so local channels .....Comcast has us by the balls & they know it....
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 21, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on September 21, 2013, 03:22:17 PM
cant watch the Nationwide race today...they have it on ESPNEWS and I don't get that channel...oh well
Me either. No biggy, Kyle Busch will most likely win anyway again :P
the cup guys arent in this race. :2thumbs:
ryan blaney in the 22 wins tonight.
Good to hear :2thumbs:
Good job Matt....win #7 of the season :2thumbs:
Yeah, it was nice for him to win. He done it on his 500th start. Makes it that much harder for JJ to win another championship. Too bad about Kayne though. I was hoping that he could be a bigger player than he has been. He gets a good start, but bad luck sets in.
matt and kyle 1 & 2 in the points. matt will have to keep going to keep JJ and kyle off the top spot.
Well that sucks if something doesn't happen it looks like toyota may win the championship... :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
it looks like a 3 car race everyone else is pretty much toast come on Talladega
I don't care who wins it, as long as it ain't the 24 or 48
saw a race sunday that was way more exciting then nascar ZZZZZZZZZ. They call it Global Rallycross,, like a mini car dirt track ,road course ,, demo derby attack of the fast crazy clown cars all rolled in one event. man fast pace and total crash fest. well saw nascar an trucks off road then the rallycross turbo zippity go crash buggies,, then few hrs of america picker.
well a good sunday at the bar with lots of spaggetti,,just my :Twocents: :Twocents: on global rallycross.. latter dj
OOOh glad matt won instead of a busch sister , and dont want too see another jeff or jimmy take top spot this year.. :Twocents: :Twocents:
Quote from: djcarguy on September 23, 2013, 01:30:34 PM
saw a race sunday that was way more exciting then nascar ZZZZZZZZZ. They call it Global Rallycross,, like a mini car dirt track ,road course ,, demo derby attack of the fast crazy clown cars all rolled in one event. man fast pace and total crash fest. well saw nascar an trucks off road then the rallycross turbo zippity go crash buggies,, then few hrs of america picker.
well a good sunday at the bar with lots of spaggetti,,just my :Twocents: :Twocents: on global rallycross.. latter dj
OOOh glad matt won instead of a busch sister , and dont want too see another jeff or jimmy take top spot this year.. :Twocents: :Twocents:
:cheers: :2thumbs:
Newman is definitely going to RCR next year. Quicken Loans and Caterpillar are the sponsors.
Also, Kurt is going with another Talledega Nights paint scheme at Talledega, this time with Wonderbread.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 22, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Well that sucks if something doesn't happen it looks like toyota may win the championship... :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
Very possible that will happen. I have mixed feelings about Matt winning races in a Toyota, but I'm sure he doesn't care.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2013, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 22, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Well that sucks if something doesn't happen it looks like toyota may win the championship... :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
Very possible that will happen. I have mixed feelings about Matt winning races in a Toyota, but I'm sure he doesn't care.
I guess if Toyota is bound to win one it might as well be Matt, he is the most likable Toyota driver.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 25, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2013, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 22, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Well that sucks if something doesn't happen it looks like toyota may win the championship... :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
Very possible that will happen. I have mixed feelings about Matt winning races in a Toyota, but I'm sure he doesn't care.
I guess if Toyota is bound to win one it might as well be Matt, he is the most likable Toyota driver.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
JR won the pole :eek2: Kenseth second and Newman 3rd.
I won free tickets to the next race (Kansas Speedway) I get to ride on the V-100 Party bus down there and back :icon_smile_cool: I will have to record the Chiefs game though :brickwall:
Quote from: The70RT on October 01, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
I won free tickets to the next race (Kansas Speedway) I get to ride on the V-100 Party bus down there and back :icon_smile_cool: I will have to record the Chiefs game though :brickwall:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: awesome buddy
sounds fun. enjoy the trip. :2thumbs:
Please go Vote for Don Post , he is a fantastic guy . In 1980 he was diagnosed with ALS ( lou gehrig's )
and give less then 3 years to live . He has now lived with it for 33 year and gone to work doing charlty work everyday since .
He truely deserves this NASCAR Award and if he wins will they donate 100 k to march of dimes in his name .
thanks please vote every day for Don Post from now until december
http://www.nascar.com/award
voted. :2thumbs:
thanks the guy is pretty awesome and really deserves it
And Danica "Crash" Patrick strikes again :lol:
couldnt make a lap. :nana: :loser: :loser:
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 06, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
And Danica "Crash" Patrick strikes again :lol:
See Scott she is just a menace
Quote from: moparstuart on October 06, 2013, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 06, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
And Danica "Crash" Patrick strikes again :lol:
See Scott she is just a menace
she seems to finish in front of 15-20 guys every race, :nana: what does that say for them guys...
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 06, 2013, 02:08:17 PM
couldnt make a lap. :nana: :loser: :loser:
that was pretty damn lame on her part, I'm sure she's embarrassed as hell & rightly so...
i do admit the track was slippery as heck. that showed through the race. :yesnod:
Best part of the weekend... :nana:
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/thedodgeboy/mms_zps9c1358d3.jpg) (http://s371.photobucket.com/user/thedodgeboy/media/mms_zps9c1358d3.jpg.html)
my wife cheered when she seen that. we are not kyle fans. ha ha :rofl:
Jeff Burton seems to be close to signing a new contract with a cup owner:
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/08/could-jeff-burton-be-near-another-full-time-cup-ride/
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 08, 2013, 08:00:27 PM
my wife cheered when she seen that. we are not kyle fans. ha ha :rofl:
I missed it live, cause I left the room to go to the bathroom just before it happened. I still cheered though :lol:
Travis Kvapil was arrested for domestic abuse. He was later released out on bail. He's still going to compete Saturday night at Charlotte until additional details come to light.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2013/10/11/4828406/2013-nascar-charlotte-image-problem-travis-kvapil-arrest
Quote from: thedodgeboys on October 08, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
Best part of the weekend... :nana:
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/thedodgeboy/mms_zps9c1358d3.jpg) (http://s371.photobucket.com/user/thedodgeboy/media/mms_zps9c1358d3.jpg.html)
Ha! I second that.
TPR
Remember guys, it is a night race tonight. ;)
yehaw. cant wait. :2thumbs:
I hope everyone is enjoying the Hendrick 500 tonight :rofl: :nana: :nana: :nana:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 12, 2013, 08:09:48 PM
I hope everyone is enjoying the Hendrick 500 tonight :rofl: :nana: :nana: :nana:
hey...we can take up a posse and ban yer ass if you keep up that kind of talk
Quote from: A383Wing on October 12, 2013, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 12, 2013, 08:09:48 PM
I hope everyone is enjoying the Hendrick 500 tonight :rofl: :nana: :nana: :nana:
hey...we can take up a posse and ban yer ass if you keep up that kind of talk
:D :D :D :D :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: A383Wing on October 12, 2013, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 12, 2013, 08:09:48 PM
I hope everyone is enjoying the Hendrick 500 tonight :rofl: :nana: :nana: :nana:
hey...we can take up a posse and ban yer ass if you keep up that kind of talk
Honestly, the only one I'm glad that's up front is Kayne. The others I can do without. I'd actually like to see Kurt win it, but it looks like Brad Keselowski is going to win it :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
what a great burn out brad did. enjoyed the fight to the finish. congrats brad. way to chase em down. :2thumbs:
Glad to see Brad win after such a disappointing season.
Danica finished 20 that's 22 better than last week and half the field this week. :slap:
:shruggy: couldn't help myself :smilielol:
:smilielol: :smilielol:
:smilielol: YAY! Brad!!! :2thumbs:
I'm not a BK fan....but it's better than JJ or JG
Quote from: thedodgeboys on October 12, 2013, 10:40:39 PM
Danica finished 20 that's 22 better than last week and half the field this week. :slap:
:shruggy: couldn't help myself :smilielol:
DAT bitch
hey stu, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Vickers is out of the 55 for the rest of the season due to a blood clot. Michael is scheduled to drive this weekend at Talledega. No word on who will drive the 55 or the 20 in Nationwide.
MWR is fielding only 2 cars next year full time leaving Truex open for new possibilities.
Vickers to miss rest of season with blood clot
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vickers-miss-rest-season-blood-155723103--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vickers-miss-rest-season-blood-155723103--nascar.html)
Michael Waltrip Racing cutting to 2 full teams
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-mwr-cutting-2-161836086--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-mwr-cutting-2-161836086--nascar.html)
Sucks for Truex....he deserves a ride...hope he gets a good one
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 14, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Vickers to miss rest of season with blood clot
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vickers-miss-rest-season-blood-155723103--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vickers-miss-rest-season-blood-155723103--nascar.html)
Michael Waltrip Racing cutting to 2 full teams
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-mwr-cutting-2-161836086--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-mwr-cutting-2-161836086--nascar.html)
thanks for the link & updates...
Quote from: A383Wing on October 14, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
Sucks for Truex....he deserves a ride...hope he gets a good one
:2thumbs: yep I agree :slap:
I agree too, I like Truex
Truex going to Furniture Row.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/martin-truex-jr-agrees-join-furniture-row-racing-team-2014-leaves-michael-waltrip-racing-101613
Thats cool. I'd love to see that team do great, being a small outfit. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 17, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Thats cool. I'd love to see that team do great, being a small outfit. :2thumbs:
yea..good for Martin....hope he does them proud
boring truck race at 'Dega today
and one more thing...motor-mouth Mikey Waltrip is commenting about whether or not some driver should be penalized for changing lanes before the start-finish line.....he does not need to be judging others about penalties with what he did in the cup race earlier this year... he needs to shut his mouth and find another gig as far as I'm concerned
The last 50 laps of the truck race was good with all the crashes. K.B. really took a lick on the inside wall after already getting nailed hard. I bet he is sore as hell today
yea....that was a hard hit for anyone to take...I'm just glad everyone was OK other than bumps & bruises
watched the race today..glad that Jamie won...he was over-due
I see one of the Dildo brothers wrecked his Grandpa's cars...again....he's such a "tool"..hence why I call him "dildo"
jamie has been dry for a long time. held off jr. looked like the newby got nervous trying to decide when jr. was gona go and lost it. :yesnod:
It was good for Jamie win. Dillon wasn't expecting Stenhouse to make a move, and that cost him a finish. Otherwise, he done pretty good. Better than what I expected. If Grandpa gives him a decent equipment next year, he might do pretty well. It's a shame that Childress is holding back on his Cup equipment to bring up his next of kin.
Danica crashed in practice just now. Knocked the left rear of the car off of it. :hah:
other cars in the way? raining? oil on the track from a previous accident? sun in her eyes? oh well, when tony gets recovered from his accident the two of them can celebrate.
yes i am still a bit angry. :icon_smile_big:
She claims she wheel hopped. Funny thing is, Stenhouse done the same thing. Only thing different was Stenhouse downshifted and reduced damage to his car. He's actually working on his. Danica goes to backup
Hamlin is on the pole for Sunday :woohoo: :woohoo:
after watching the truck race today...and reading Harvick calling Dillon a punk-ass rich kid...I would like to be the fly on the wall at the Childress camp to hear what will be said.
Harvick can talk smack all he wants. He's gone at the end of the year. He'll play with Ty again next year though in Nationwide.
what time an where s the race sunday??? thanks latter ,,dj out west :2thumbs: :popcrn: :cheers:
1:30 eastern, 12:30 central, 11:30 mountain, and the west coast is watching a 10:30 start time for this sunday's race.
Quote from: A383Wing on October 26, 2013, 06:22:35 PM
after watching the truck race today...and reading Harvick calling Dillon a punk-ass rich kid...I would like to be the fly on the wall at the Childress camp to hear what will be said.
Who won the race. I missed it cause I forgot it started earlier then I thought :/
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 27, 2013, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on October 26, 2013, 06:22:35 PM
after watching the truck race today...and reading Harvick calling Dillon a punk-ass rich kid...I would like to be the fly on the wall at the Childress camp to hear what will be said.
Who won the race. I missed it cause I forgot it started earlier then I thought :/
Darrell Wallace Jr. the african american driver
Harvick was going to Stewart even before this altercation happened yesterday....the Dillon boys got no respect for Grandpas cars or equipment. I agree with what Kevin called him..."punk-ass rich kid"
WOW pretty good racing today I cant believe the 20 led the most laps today and almost won.
oh and Danica finished 17th :drool5:
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/thedodgeboy/danicaandstuart_zps073b4cdb.jpg) (http://s371.photobucket.com/user/thedodgeboy/media/danicaandstuart_zps073b4cdb.jpg.html)
Not too shabby for her considering she had to go to a backup car.
Glad to see Gordon win one this year. :woohoo: :woohoo: We won't have to listen to him whine about not winning one this year.
The birdible needs some 10 flags waving off the clothes hanger. Other than that, not bad :2thumbs: I think she'd work better as a hood ornament than parading around in the back though
Quote from: A383Wing on October 27, 2013, 11:11:18 AM
Harvick was going to Stewart even before this altercation happened yesterday....the Dillon boys got no respect for Grandpas cars or equipment. I agree with what Kevin called him..."punk-ass rich kid"
I am not a fan of the Dillon kids. But KH has forgotten that he was once a young punk who got a lucky break. RCR gave Kevin Harvick the equipment to win. If Sr had not died, who knows what would have happened and when?
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 27, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
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ummm, say what you will about her driving or not driving. Ricky is sure having fun.
not for long though. now that stu got her to ride in the birdable, ricky is out. you go stu. :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on October 27, 2013, 11:11:18 AM
Harvick was going to Stewart even before this altercation happened yesterday....the Dillon boys got no respect for Grandpas cars or equipment. I agree with what Kevin called him..."punk-ass rich kid"
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/27/harvick-apologizes-for-comments-after-truck-race/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs (http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/27/harvick-apologizes-for-comments-after-truck-race/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs)
Gordon didn't look back in snapping a 32-race losing streak dating to last year's season finale at Homestead.
The victory clinched the manufacturers' championship for Chevrolet, which won for the 11th consecutive season and 37th time overall. Chevrolet did it this year in the debut season of its SS race car.
(Last DODGE championship was 1975..)
get that bitch out of my car :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for the Jeff Gordon win :brickwall: can't stand the whinner... well little prissy Danica finished ahead of 26 other "supposedly" better/good drivers too & started in the rear of the pack, in a back up car, but she would have probably finished about the same place/position either way thou, she always does... My picks aren't doing what I wanted lately really, Kenseth, Harvick & Kurt Busch were mine this weekend... I haven't done well since the Countdown started...
cant stand gordon either. :rotz:
Quote from: nvrbdn on October 28, 2013, 01:29:23 PM
cant stand gordon either. :rotz:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yup the faggot and that bitch :yesnod: :icon_smile_big:
Dillon's crew member suspended indefinitely for throwing sledge hammer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/rcr-crew-member-threw-sledgehammer-kevin-harvick-truck-152610366--nascar.html
I guess "Have at It Boys" doesn't apply to crew members. I wonder if there will be any more helmet throws as well :scratchchin:
Heard that Brad's #22 Ford is a reskin of his old Challenger... :shruggy:
In the Nationwide series, that could easily be true. Only thing unique to each brand is the engine and sheet metal. The chassis are interchangeable.
Watched the race for a few minutes. Stands look 1/2 full. (1/2 empty? :shruggy:)
Considering that Nascar is close to the end of its "playoff" season, that's amazing! Looks like 50-60 thousand , maybe??
Found this and perhaps it explains it: http://reviews.ticketmaster.com/7171/896092/texas-motor-speedway-races-reviews/reviews.htm?sort=rating&dir=asc
More to this than single file, clean air, boring "racing", if you can call it that.
well it looks like it will be another JJ championship :flame: , IMHFO :hah: it's getting to the point, almost not even worth watching anymore :brickwall: , same ol' crap just a different day/year... :Twocents: Boring
i agree. im all but done with it. record the race as it is and run fast forward to the yellows. its just the same thing, 1 car is so fast and the rest are out there for obstacles. will definately free up a little time. ha ha
yea...the "Fix for Six" is all but complete....pretty boring race actually....the only good that came was when Gordon hit the wall
You're giving up on Kenseth???? You disappoint me :rotz: :rotz: :rotz: Anything can happen in 1000 miles :D
Johnson needs to spin flip at Phoenix this week in the first 50 laps. Other wise Matt has no chance :brickwall:
I'm rooting for Matt, I'm tired of the JJ show.
I wonder if petty had all this love back when he was winning every other week?
I'm no JJ fan but just like That guy that drove the 3 car and won 7 cup titles and tied the king you just got to respect what they have done cheating and all...
IMHO if na$car was putting the fix in, it would be for junior not JJ. A junior championship would boost ratings and put butts in the seats...
Let's hope Matt can rise to the challenge or we will be looking at history in the making.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 04, 2013, 08:30:06 PM
I'm rooting for Matt, I'm tired of the JJ show.
:iagree: :2thumbs:
Wake up guys, Matt drives a TOYOTA... :puke:
Since Dodge pulled out, it doesn't matter. Same cars and pretty much the same engines anyway.
Quote from: odcics2 on November 05, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
Wake up guys, Matt drives a TOYOTA... :puke:
While Matt is from these parts and a good guy, I do not want to see Toyota win the title.
Chevrolet already won the manufacturers' championship.
Quote from: odcics2 on November 05, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
Wake up guys, Matt drives a TOYOTA... :puke:
He could drive a Yugo for all I care...I'll root for Matt or anyone else to win the Cup before JJ or JG
:iagree: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
All my heroes are dead or retired.
I am not a Johnson fan at all, but his team is in a league of their own even compared to the other Hendrick cars. The dude is a machine. If he gets the sixth championship, I want to see if he can get 7 to tie Earnhardt.
Quote from: Aero426 on November 05, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
All my heroes are dead or retired.
I am not a Johnson fan at all, but his team is in a league of their own compared to the other Hendrick cars. The dude is a machine. If he gets the sixth championship, I want to see if he can get 7 to tie Earnhardt.
I want Johnson - Junior Johnson! :lol:
I agree. Let's bring back the legends of Nascar. That includes the cars.
Option 2: Scrap the politics. Let the drivers ( and crew members) be themselves. More production based cars. Just a roof and quarter windows isn't enough. Lets see the 4.6 Cammers and the LS engines out there.
NASCAR needs more characters like Tim Richmond. Great program if you have not seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlIDLD_8G8o&feature=share
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 04, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
I wonder if petty had all this love back when he was winning every other week?
I'm no JJ fan but just like That guy that drove the 3 car and won 7 cup titles and tied the king you just got to respect what they have done cheating and all...
IMHO if na$car was putting the fix in, it would be for junior not JJ. A junior championship would boost ratings and put butts in the seats...
Let's hope Matt can rise to the challenge or we will be looking at history in the making.
JJ isn't no Richard Petty, never will be either, no matter how many championships Hendricks buys/arranges rule changes for him...LOL...
Petty is in a league of his own. JJ will never reach the status that Petty is at. He doesn't have the personality for it.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 07, 2013, 04:39:11 PM
Petty is in a league of his own. JJ will never reach the status that Petty is at. He doesn't have the personality for it.
:nana: Yeah he's/JJ is just a NASCAR Robot/Speakerhead/Mouth Piece :shruggy: , "King Richard" Petty, Bucked the system & tried to make it better for all drivers, not just the Hendricks teams... :Twocents:
Quote from: Budnicks on November 07, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 07, 2013, 04:39:11 PM
Petty is in a league of his own. JJ will never reach the status that Petty is at. He doesn't have the personality for it.
:nana: Yeah he's/JJ is just a NASCAR Robot/Speakerhead/Mouth Piece :shruggy: , "King Richard" Petty, Bucked the system & tried to make it better for all drivers, not just the Hendricks teams... :Twocents:
Petty was the head of the drivers union (PDA)when Bill France was screwing them all... :2thumbs:
It looks like it's going to take a flat tire, blown engine, or a wreck for Matt to win it this year.
Of course, Matt was the last true champion that Nascar has had in the Cup.
yup, j.j will have to crash early next week
yea...looks like some sort of miracle will be needed to stop the JJ train...
damn....
Still, anything can happen. He was leading last year up till the last 2 races before Brad cinched it.
Yea...I know....
I know, I'm being optimistic.
On another note, Travis Pastrona is out after this year in the Nationwide series. No sponsorship and wanting to spend time with family are the reasons he's calling it quits in Nascar.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2013/11/11/5093600/travis-pastrana-quitting-nascar-rally-x-games-roush-fenway-racing
Pastrana would seem to be an experiment that failed. He has command of the 18-34 year old crowd. Yet they (and sponsors) did not seem to follow him to NASCAR.
The car often appeared to be pretty much unsponsored. I assume that he was spending some of his own money to race in Nationwide with the hopes of bringing someone along.
Quote from: A383Wing on November 05, 2013, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on November 05, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
Wake up guys, Matt drives a TOYOTA... :puke:
He could drive a Yugo for all I care...I'll root for Matt or anyone else to win the Cup before JJ or JG
exactly :2thumbs:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 12, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I know, I'm being optimistic.
On another note, Travis Pastrona is out after this year in the Nationwide series. No sponsorship and wanting to spend time with family are the reasons he's calling it quits in Nascar.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2013/11/11/5093600/travis-pastrana-quitting-nascar-rally-x-games-roush-fenway-racing
That's too bad :brickwall: I was hoping he did well, he's done pretty well in all his other racing endeavors, not exactly the Nitro Circus demographic thou...
I'm pretty much done with NASCAR now, the whole family used to watch the races but now I watch a few minutes to see who's in the lead or any crashes.
I think its gotten a lot like Wrestling (WWE).And the "Chase" is a joke. :Twocents:
One more race sunday . want bout anyone except jimmie to win.
maybee we can take up a collection to put a hit on jimmies car early or a curse on his tires?? WHATS YOUR OPIONIONS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WHAT YA THINK HIT WILL COST???????????????????????????????????
JUST MY :Twocents: :Twocents: :shruggy: :shruggy: :D :D :D :D :D :2thumbs: :cheers: :popcrn: :popcrn:
J.J has got it unless he crashes in the first 50 laps, and really hurts the car so he goes at least 5 laps down :rotz:
im bored with it. i will check in to see how its going, but probably wont see much of it.
Anything can happen. I'll probably won't bother watching it. Homestead leads to boring races. It'd be nice if the last race was at a more entertaining track.
Kenseth is on the pole for Sunday. We'll have to wait and see what happens. :popcrn:
Jimmie Johnson responds to a washed up NFL quarterback. Even if you don't like Johnson, it's pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ne_wOubhg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ne_wOubhg)
ASSCAR sure screwed up the end of the nationwide race tonight :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 16, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
ASSCAR sure screwed up the end of the nationwide race tonight :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
yea..no kidding...that "snot nosed punk-ass rich kid" of Childress won the cup tonight...
damn
Didn't watch it. Will someone give some details? :popcrn:
not much to tell...Hornish had to finish about 7 spots in front of Dillon...was a good race, but the kid beat him in the points...Hornish finished in front of Dillon, but he got second place
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 15, 2013, 11:19:10 PM
im bored with it. i will check in to see how its going, but probably wont see much of it.
:2thumbs: same ol' crap just another year, JJ or Hendricks teams in general,always comes on in the Chase, last year was a pleasant surprise, back to the same ol' crappy BORING NASCAR RACE show now
Quote from: A383Wing on November 16, 2013, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 16, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
ASSCAR sure screwed up the end of the nationwide race tonight :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
yea..no kidding...that "snot nosed punk-ass rich kid" of Childress won the cup tonight...
damn
:2thumbs: Grampa's money.... :Twocents:
damn....yea, fergot about "Grampa's Money' thing :RantExplode: .....sorry....
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 16, 2013, 11:52:33 PM
Didn't watch it. Will someone give some details? :popcrn:
Na$car cautions :brickwall: mostly ruined the end Sam had the spoiled kid covered uncle they just keeper running lap after lap under caution tell finally Sam didn't have enough laps left to pull away from the 3 like he had all night.
It was just frustrating next year should be a real downer with that kid and the media drooling all over the return of the 3 :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 17, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
damn....yea, fergot about "Grampa's Money' thing :RantExplode: .....sorry....
That was classic at Martinsville when Harvick let loos about them kids coming up.
the return of the three, they just put a number on a car. :shruggy:
now if they would have dug up dale and had him driving the car i would have been more impressed. :nana:
Just because he drives the 3 doesn't mean he'll live up to the legend of the 3. It does add some fuel to my idea that the Cup programs suffered this year to bring up the grandkids.
well.......crap :RantExplode:
Expected. :brickwall:
Still crap. :RantExplode:
Less reason to watch next year. :rotz:
Matt Kenseth was the last Champion that the Cup series has had.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 17, 2013, 06:48:02 PM
Matt Kenseth was the last Champion that the Cup series has had.
yea....I agree....Tony was OK as well for me
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 17, 2013, 06:48:02 PM
Matt Kenseth was the last Champion that the Cup series has had.
I take your point......but given the Nascar pro-Hendrick/Chevy bias......Brad came pretty close to earning it.
I don't consider the Chase champions real Nascar Champions. Nascar shouldn't have to create a drama topic. Leave that to the drivers, teams, and chance to create the drama. Nascar shouldn't have to manipulate the series to be a conversation piece.
Agree, the "chase" sucks.
It's all about the $$$, the "show", and Rick Hendricks.
Still, my observation stands, Brad came closest to earning it. JMO
Get ready for the next installment of "As the Nascar world turns"........Hendricks fixed it for six, a couple more and they will claim JJ is the best there ever was.
No doubt JJ is good, but he's no Richard Petty.
Seeing that the "fix for six" has been completed this year....I would like to see two changes in the next years racing format.
1) No more "saving spots" for drivers, if 55 cars show up to qualify for the weekend race, the top 43 in qualifying get to race, no more "provisionals" or past Champion reserved spots....if you can't qualify or crash during trying to qualify for the race, tough shit, you get to watch from the trailer
2) No more picking pit stalls after qualifying, pit stalls will be assigned to the driver in a random drawing like a Lottery Drawing....yer car number goes into one hopper, pit stall number goes into another hopper, after 43 cars have qualified for race, each hopper with car number and stall number will spit one ball out and that is the stall you get.
lets see how good these drivers are then
Interesting ideas.
Get rid of the "free pass" too.
I am not what you would call a Jimmie Johnson fan, but the guy is a darn good driver. He and Chad make a great team and they know how to win races. You can not just drop anyone in the 48 seat and win like Jimmie does. . . . There are a lot of really good drivers out there, and Jimmie beats them week after week. Sorry guys, I do not believe of a Hendrick fix so the 48 can win races. I believe if that was the case NASCAR would want the 88 out there instead. I have to give it up to Jimmie, he is a great driver and represents the sport with class.
JJ is good, no doubt.
JJ sometime shows class......sometimes whines with the best of them. look at the "restarts" thing midyear.
Chads sharp....no doubt there either.
BUT.....I think a lot of the time......the 48 is just a bit more "equal" in the eyes of Nascar.
BIG $$$$ on the line.......and Jr fans are so loyal[and I admire them for it] they do not care if he wins or not.
I would say this.....think most drivers are extremely good at what they do......
Also think if you swapped cars with JJ and any of the top drivers.......the 48 would more often come out on top no matter who was driving.
JMO
i have rewritten this several times, and then decided with this. im tired of the same garbage. the chase is garbage. it was invented to try to add excitement. :eek2: it was put in so more fans could be happy that their driver has a chance to win it all. what they did is make it possible for this exact thing to happen. i watched the race from the dvr in super fast motion. looking for cautions. glad its over. ive spoken my feelings with nascar, JJ, JR. JG, and hendrick. maybe i will heal before next season. :rotz:
The biggest bunch of crap I heard was when NASCAR said any driver that showed aggressive driving toward Jimmy would face a stiff penalty .What's up with that shit ?
I didn't hear about that. That's a bunch of crap.
On another note, it'll be interesting next year. If the 3 does come back, Nascar will do it's best to make a big deal out of it.
Hadn't heard that either. Was there any mention of Matt? Or were they just protecting JJ?
Likely just a rumor......but with everything that's happened this last few weeks.....the last was just last night with a loooooooog caution that so clearly favored a certain car.
Nascar has little perceived integrity.
Predict the 3 will be like Danica.
Get a LOT of publicity, make a huge amount of $$$$, and amount to very little.
I disagree about the 3. I say grandpa has been holding back on the Cup program to bring up the grandkids. Give Dillon about 7 or 8 races to get acquainted with the car and the crew chief, then we'll see the Aces up their sleeves.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 17, 2013, 11:16:16 PM
I disagree about the 3. I say grandpa has been holding back on the Cup program to bring up the grandkids. Give Dillon about 7 or 8 races to get acquainted with the car and the crew chief, then we'll see the Aces up their sleeves.
Good thing we can respectfully disagree :2thumbs:
7-8 races? Seriously? :scratchchin:
Keep in mind, the guy that won last year, didn't make the "chase"? Think things are a bit more competitive then a a few aces up a sleeve. Look at the number of dam good, experienced drivers, in very good equipment, and no wins.
Good drivers, good crew chief, and good equipment.....and sometimes it just doesn't come together. Look at the 20 car......what Matt did. Joey finally got enough experience.....this year he amounted to something. Not that I particularly like him, but I think he's showing some potential.
JMO......I just do not see rookies amounting to much of anything but bending cars.
But hey....if your right, I'll owe you some :cheers: :cheers:
I see a lot of damaged #3 cars during the year. Dillon has no respect for anyone else on the tracks he has raced against from what I have seen this year.
I'll have to agree about the damaged cars. I'd almost bet that he doesn't survive Daytona. But, the guy won 2 championships, back to back, in 3 years time. Do I predict the same outcome next year, no. Will he even win a race, doubt it. But, if the 3 comes back, Nascar and the fans of the 3, are going to want immediate success.
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on November 17, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Hadn't heard that either. Was there any mention of Matt? Or were they just protecting JJ?
Likely just a rumor......but with everything that's happened this last few weeks.....the last was just last night with a loooooooog caution that so clearly favored a certain car.
Nascar has little perceived integrity.
Predict the 3 will be like Danica.
Get a LOT of publicity, make a huge amount of $$$$, and amount to very little.
Not a rumor,on NASCAR Live from their web site about 1/2 hr before start of race.And,no mention of any of the other drivers.
Quote from: 62 Max on November 18, 2013, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on November 17, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Hadn't heard that either. Was there any mention of Matt? Or were they just protecting JJ?
Likely just a rumor......but with everything that's happened this last few weeks.....the last was just last night with a loooooooog caution that so clearly favored a certain car.
Nascar has little perceived integrity.
Predict the 3 will be like Danica.
Get a LOT of publicity, make a huge amount of $$$$, and amount to very little.
Not a rumor,on NASCAR Live from their web site about 1/2 hr before start of race.And,no mention of any of the other drivers.
Now that's interesting.....and Nascar wonders why they have a credibility problem? Certainly would explain why everyone gave JJ a LOTTA room. To be fair.....didn't see Matt have any problems either.
No offence intended, didn't mean to sound like I doubted you, dismissing as just a rumor. Sorry about that.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 18, 2013, 03:26:28 AM
I'll have to agree about the damaged cars. I'd almost bet that he doesn't survive Daytona. But, the guy won 2 championships, back to back, in 3 years time. Do I predict the same outcome next year, no. Will he even win a race, doubt it. But, if the 3 comes back, Nascar and the fans of the 3, are going to want immediate success.
Totally agree on this.....expectations for a 3 would be unrealistic. Just as Jr was not Sr, Kyle was not Richard, etc.
No doubt, back to back IS an accomplishment. Daytona.....well, if he is in the right place/time, he can do well and make the unrealistic expectations problem worse........
I hope they bring the 3 back like I remember it:
White Dodge Charger with a big red #3 with Buddy Baker driving. Crew chief was Ray Fox! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Manufacturer Standings
November 17, 2013, Staff report, NASCAR.com
After Race 36 of the 2013 season at Homestead-Miami Speedway
Rank Manufacturer Points Wins
1. Chevrolet 254 16
2. Toyota 229 14
3. Ford 194 6
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 18, 2013, 03:26:28 AM
I'll have to agree about the damaged cars. I'd almost bet that he doesn't survive Daytona. But, the guy won 2 championships, back to back, in 3 years time. Do I predict the same outcome next year, no. Will he even win a race, doubt it. But, if the 3 comes back, Nascar and the fans of the 3, are going to want immediate success.
He didn't win any races this year not one, Sam did but not the Dillion boy.
Proof will be in the pudding next year. Every racing series has a couple of drivers with family connections or money. No one is complaining about Michael Annett moving from Nationwide to Cup. His family owns Pilot/Flying J truck stops.
Not a fan of the Dillon boy, but he no doubt will be markedly better than the little Princess in her second year. Running 30th isn't too hard to beat.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 18, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 18, 2013, 03:26:28 AM
I'll have to agree about the damaged cars. I'd almost bet that he doesn't survive Daytona. But, the guy won 2 championships, back to back, in 3 years time. Do I predict the same outcome next year, no. Will he even win a race, doubt it. But, if the 3 comes back, Nascar and the fans of the 3, are going to want immediate success.
He didn't win any races this year not one, Sam did but not the Dillion boy.
That was under the older points system that the Cup needs to go back to. It's not about just winning races, but being consistent the longest. Dillon didn't have to win a race. Actually, there were a few of the Cup champions that never won a race either. I say Gordon could win the Cup championship next year if they reverted back to the old point system.
...
Bobby LaBonte won the cup one season and never won a race that year
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 17, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
i have rewritten this several times, and then decided with this. im tired of the same garbage. the chase is garbage. it was invented to try to add excitement. :eek2: it was put in so more fans could be happy that their driver has a chance to win it all. what they did is make it possible for this exact thing to happen. i watched the race from the dvr in super fast motion. looking for cautions. glad its over. ive spoken my feelings with nascar, JJ, JR. JG, and hendrick. maybe i will heal before next season. :rotz:
:2thumbs:, same ol' crap new year :brickwall:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 18, 2013, 11:17:39 PM
Bobby LaBonte won the cup one season and never won a race that year
in 2000 the only year he won the cup he had 4 wins :popcrn:
http://sports.espn.go.com/racing/driver/stats/_/id/64/bobby-labonte
No driver has ever gone winless on his way to a championship
NASCAR has come close to crowning a winless champion several times in the past. Four times, the champion finished the season with only one victory -- Matt Kenseth in 2003, Benny Parsons in 1973, Ned Jarrett in 1961 and Bill Rexford in 1950.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=blount_terry&id=4454754
That dillion boy may be the first timer in the 2 lower series to win a championship without a race win???
I stand corrected on my statement about Cup champions and how many wins that year. My apologies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASCAR_Sprint_Cup_Series_champions
:shruggy:
Thought this was interesting. It only went through 2008 though, but it shows who the Champ was/would be under the old points and the Chase from 1975-2008.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/NASCAR-Racing-2068/2009/1/championship-old-points-method.htm
Looks like Gordon would have been Hendricks' 6 time champ instead of JJ and Edwards would have been a Champion as well. They should sue.
I have to admit to being a bit of a hypocrite as more than once I have found myself hoping that Jimmie Johnson would have a tire go down or crash out so he will not win a race. I was hoping that Matt would take the championship, but the team’s performance at Phoenix pretty much ended that chance. I like many others have at times tired of seeing him seemingly win every race he enters (I know he doesn’t, but it seems that way at times). But, on the other hand my all time favorite driver is and always will be Richard Petty. The “King” once dominated the race track with one win after another (that sounds familiar doesn’t it), just as Jimmie does today. In fact there was a time when if Petty showed up at the track, the talk became not who was going to win, but who would finish second. Back then I am sure that there where fans sitting in the stands that held signs saying “Anyone but Petty”, just as some fans do today regarding Jimmie. And, what about Dale Earnhardt Sr. and his run with one win after another, or Jeff Gordon for that matter. All were winners and dominators in their time….so who was/is the best driver ever….who can really say as each did their driving in a different time with different equipment and rules. And, does it really matter? Even if Jimmie wins more championships than Richard or Dale…The “King” will always be the “King” and the “Intimidator” will always be the “Intimidator”….Jimmie can never take that away no matter how many wins and championships he may win in the future. Petty shaped NASCAR in many ways, and both Dale and Jeff brought it into the mainstream. So each did their part to make NASCAR the huge sport it is today. And, each was the best…in their time.
I guess rather than wasting my time on worthless arguments about who is best, I will just learn to enjoy watching a driver that is having his turn at dominating. It will not last forever, it never does…just ask Richard, [Dale] or Jeff…..
(Just my two cents: I now return the soapbox to the next individual with an opinion…. :popcrn:)
I Agree.
Each of them was/is the best in their day. It is hard to compare them to each other. What Johnson and his team has done in the modern era is remarkable.
Just catching up on the thread.
I've been down with the flu since Friday, :eek2: :eek2:
Glad to see you're feeling better :2thumbs:
Kurt's ride for next year
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LzMF.gS.Ro0HVtoYnhTk.w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0yODk7cT03NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/Nascar/Kurt_Busch_shifts_to_No.-2ad7fbf4dc17df6df61db5fd945d9a85)
Quote from: General_01 on November 19, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
Thought this was interesting. It only went through 2008 though, but it shows who the Champ was/would be under the old points and the Chase from 1975-2008.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/NASCAR-Racing-2068/2009/1/championship-old-points-method.htm
That's interesting, thanks
Quote from: wingcar on November 20, 2013, 08:57:57 AM
I have to admit to being a bit of a hypocrite as more than once I have found myself hoping that Jimmie Johnson would have a tire go down or crash out so he will not win a race. I was hoping that Matt would take the championship, but the team's performance at Phoenix pretty much ended that chance. I like many others have at times tired of seeing him seemingly win every race he enters (I know he doesn't, but it seems that way at times). But, on the other hand my all time favorite driver is and always will be Richard Petty. The "King" once dominated the race track with one win after another (that sounds familiar doesn't it), just as Jimmie does today. In fact there was a time when if Petty showed up at the track, the talk became not who was going to win, but who would finish second. Back then I am sure that there where fans sitting in the stands that held signs saying "Anyone but Petty", just as some fans do today regarding Jimmie. And, what about Dale Earnhardt Sr. and his run with one win after another, or Jeff Gordon for that matter. All were winners and dominators in their time....so who was/is the best driver ever....who can really say as each did their driving in a different time with different equipment and rules. And, does it really matter? Even if Jimmie wins more championships than Richard or Dale...The "King" will always be the "King" and the "Intimidator" will always be the "Intimidator"....Jimmie can never take that away no matter how many wins and championships he may win in the future. Petty shaped NASCAR in many ways, and both Dale and Jeff brought it into the mainstream. So each did their part to make NASCAR the huge sport it is today. And, each was the best...in their time.
I guess rather than wasting my time on worthless arguments about who is best, I will just learn to enjoy watching a driver that is having his turn at dominating. It will not last forever, it never does...just ask Richard, [Dale] or Jeff.....
(Just my two cents: I now return the soapbox to the next individual with an opinion.... :popcrn:)
:2thumbs: very well said :2thumbs:
Nascar just bought Iowa Speedway :popcrn:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/nascar-purchases-iowa-speedway-194318617--nascar.html
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 27, 2013, 05:59:36 PM
Nascar just bought Iowa Speedway :popcrn:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/nascar-purchases-iowa-speedway-194318617--nascar.html
They should get Rockingham going again. :'(
North Wilkesboro put on some decent racing as well. But, I don't think it's a good idea of Nascar buying tracks. They could start monopolizing the schedule with their tracks.
Don't they do that now? :scratchchin:
The deal with NASCAR buying the track, versus ISC on the surface is strange. There has be to a reason and some reading between the lines is necessary.
The track has some debt issues. NASCAR buying it may allow them to lean on creditors to negotiate and discount debts to be repaid. "Take our deal, or we will walk, and ISC won't come near." Once the debts are cleaned up, they then sell the track to ISC. Because NASCAR is privately held, they won't have to reveal any of the details.
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on November 28, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
They should get Rockingham going again. :'(
From what I read, the track could not pay the sanctioning fees to host the NASCAR modified races they had scheduled for a few months ago. This is a shame as Andy Hillenburg has put so much effort and money to get the place running again. I think the truck series race they had in 2012 was successful. I heard attendance was down this past April.
MWR hires Jeff Burton as test driver for 2014
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mwr-hires-jeff-burton-test-225719705--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mwr-hires-jeff-burton-test-225719705--nascar.html)
"Michael Waltrip Racing has hired Jeff Burton as a test driver, with the possibility of running a partial Sprint Cup schedule in 2014.
The team will field the No. 66 Toyota for Burton at Las Vegas in March. Additional races for Burton could be scheduled at a later date."
Apparently no one wants him anymore :-\
I like Jeff....he deserves a ride in my opinion...
I really liked listening to his brother Ward talk on TV, he had that southern drawl
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 02, 2013, 06:50:04 PM
MWR hires Jeff Burton as test driver for 2014
Apparently no one wants him anymore :-\
Sometime your career is over before you are, its tough for lots of good drivers look at Hornish 2nd in points and no ride next year.
I hear he will be part of the new tv deal in 15.
I don't think it was the idea of no one wants Jeff, it's a matter of what rides are open. You have Dillon and Larson coming into the Cup. Montoya left. Truex lost his ride and has moved over to Furniture Row. Newman left S/H and moved into Jeff's ride. Busch and Harvick moved to S/H. Allmendinger has taken over Bobby Labonte's ride. There is literally no where for Jeff or Bobby to go except either a part time ride or drop down into Nationwide or the Truck series. Nothing wrong with dropping down though. Several drivers have found success by dropping out of the Cup. Look at Skinner and Johnny Benson.
Looks like Jeff is going to be an announcer for NBC
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2013/12/3/5173028/nbc-sports-jeff-burton-television-coverage-nascar-broadcast-booth
With all the talk about NBC and 2015...does this mean Fox will no longer be televising NASCAR races after 2014?
Fox will still cover the same races they already do.
I hope DW or Rusty is gone....
Good article on what actually is said inside the NASCAR hauler.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-12-06/dale-earnhardt-jr-confrontation-nascar-hauler-officials-wreck-jeff-gordon-kurt-busch-kyle?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-12-06/dale-earnhardt-jr-confrontation-nascar-hauler-officials-wreck-jeff-gordon-kurt-busch-kyle?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Someone doesn't have a sense of humor
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jay-mohr-got-icy-glare-danica-patrick-joke-180017991--nascar.html
I am really surprised that no one has brought up the subject of the number three returning to the track with Austin Dillon. It has been the subject of "heated" debate on the satellite NASCAR radio channel. Many feel that no one should ever drive a number three car again, while others have no issues with it. I have to admit that at first I kind of felt that no one else should have driven the number 43 when Richard retired. But that feeling quickly passed as the number on door really doesn't matter as much as the driver behind the wheel. Yes, the 43 will always be Richard Petty's number just as the number three will always be associated with Dale Earnhardt. I think I might have had a bit of an issue if the Dillon car was going to be a black Goodwrench car, but I understand that it will be sponsored by Cheerios, and not be black....so what difference does it really make. Others drove a car with the number three for many years before Dale, just as other's drove a number 43 before Richard. Like it has been said, even Dale wouldn't have wanted the number to just go away, and he stated as such before he died. And the fact that it will be carried by Richard "C's" Grandson makes it kind of special. It will also place a lot of pressure on Austin to perform. Just think of the emotion the first time the number three returns to the winner's circle.....it will be a big day for sure....
(One more thing to keep in mind, many of the new NASCAR fans never saw Dale race....having the three back on the track will hopefully help keep his history alive..)
we have had this discussion before..I don't think the 3 should return to racing, it should be retired forever. My opinion on the Dillon boy has been spoken before..he's just a punk ass kid with Grandpa's money and he will wreck a lot of cars & people in the Cup series....
If anyone should drive the "3" again, it should be Jr......but he will never measure up to his dad's talents or driving skill
Quote from: A383Wing on December 13, 2013, 02:29:14 PM
we have had this discussion before..I don't think the 3 should return to racing, it should be retired forever. My opinion on the Dillon boy has been spoken before..he's just a punk ass kid with Grandpa's money and he will wreck a lot of cars & people in the Cup series....
If anyone should drive the "3" again, it should be Jr......but he will never measure up to his dad's talents or driving skill
If that were the case....why not the 43 as well, and the 42, plus the 11, 24 (when Jeff retires), the 6, the 11....etc, etc, etc.....and do you retire a number when a driver dies? You can make a case for many numbers being retired....but sooner or later you will run out of numbers.
Guess NASCAR could start lettering the cars, "the letter B car driven by...XXX"
I suppose we'll just have to see how he performs as the season progresses...
Money talks, but its performance on the track that counts...
Quote from: wingcar on December 13, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on December 13, 2013, 02:29:14 PM
we have had this discussion before..I don't think the 3 should return to racing, it should be retired forever. My opinion on the Dillon boy has been spoken before..he's just a punk ass kid with Grandpa's money and he will wreck a lot of cars & people in the Cup series....
If anyone should drive the "3" again, it should be Jr......but he will never measure up to his dad's talents or driving skill
If that were the case....why not the 43 as well, and the 42, plus the 11, 24 (when Jeff retires), the 6, the 11....etc, etc, etc.....and do you retire a number when a driver dies? You can make a case for many numbers being retired....but sooner or later you will run out of numbers.
Guess NASCAR could start lettering the cars, "the letter B car driven by...XXX"
I suppose we'll just have to see how he performs as the season progresses...
Money talks, but its performance on the track that counts...
maybe add the #45 Adam Petty to that list too, he wasn't an icon yet, but died at the track driving for an icon... I would like to see #3 retired & I'm not a big Dale Earnhardt Sr. fan even, but he was an icon for sure... but they would run out of 2 digit #'s, there's only 100 = 00-99, if they retired all the guys who've died while racing... then you would have to include the #48 JJ too now he's got 6 Championships {makes me puke}, then maybe Lee Petty, Ned Jarrett, Fireball Roberts, Tiny Lund, Neil Bonnet, Buck & Buddy Baker, Junior Johnson, Davey & Bobby Allison, Benny Parsons, Tim Flock, Darrell Waltrip, Alan Kulwicki, we could go on & on... IMHFO which meens nothing to Nascar, the 43 & 3 both should be retired...
you guys fergot the #28...I really miss him....that car number is retired
I can see why the 43 isn't retired. Richard still runs it as an owner. As for retiring other numbers like 3, I say no. Otherwise, there wouldn't be as many numbers to run that are under 100. The announcers have a hard enough time just saying the drivers name and sponsors. Now try throwing in 109, 174, and 166. It'd get pretty mouthy for the announcers just to mention a driver, which may lead them into not doing so. Half the field doesn't get mentioned as it is.
What would be more better for Dillon is to run the 03. Here's his cars for next year
(http://static.nascar.com/content/dam/nascar/articles/2013/12/11/main/AD-main.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/AD-main.jpg.main.png)
Quote from: A383Wing on December 13, 2013, 11:24:16 PM
you guys fergot the #28...I really miss him....that car number is retired
Freddy Lorenzen and Buddy Baker drove "a" 28. Buddy also drove "a" 3.
James Hylton drove "a" 48. I'm not for retiring numbers... :Twocents:
I say get over it :nana:
The 3 has a history deeper than the GM sponsorship.
Dale Earnhardt, 67 wins in #3, 76 wins overall (HOF)
Junior Johnson, 9, 50 (HOF)
Paul Goldsmith, 5, 9
David Pearson, 3, 105 (HOF)
Dick Rathman, 3, 13
Buck Baker, 2, 46 (HOF)
Ricky Rudd, 2, 23
Buddy Baker, 2, 19
Fireball Roberts, 1, 33
Charlie Glotzbach, 1, 4
Danny Letner, 1, 2
Earl Balmer, 1, 1
(HOF) - in the NASCAR Hall of Fame first number # of wins second # of poles
The 3 was Richard Childress' long time number before Dale Sr. Also among the others noted. No big deal.
New rules for next year:
-- Statically set car at race ride height -- eliminate pre- and post-race front height rules and inspection.
-- The use of a front splitter with a square leading edge.
-- Skirts at 4-inch minimum ground clearance on both the left and right sides.
-- Rear fascia trimmed 1.375 inches higher in current scallop region.
-- The use of an 8-inch high rear spoiler.
-- The use of a 43-inch wide by 13-inch long radiator pan
Jeremy Mayfield's former mansion used for firefighting training
New owner of the property wants to farm the land. Burning the already gutted house took it off the tax books.
Looks like the guys need more training, too. You can feel the flames just looking at it. :fireangry: Impressive blaze...
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 20, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Jeremy Mayfield's former mansion used for firefighting training
that's just a sad sight
This thread needs a bump, just to make it easier to find next month
Jaimie McMurray fastest in nighttime practice for the Rolex 24 hours. :woohoo: Hope it's just the start of things to come.
Quote from: Budnicks on December 22, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 20, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Jeremy Mayfield's former mansion used for firefighting training
that's just a sad sight
I agree, for me it was sad to see him go down the chute. I always pulled for him even before he drove a Dodge. :rotz:
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on January 05, 2014, 11:39:15 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on December 22, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 20, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Jeremy Mayfield's former mansion used for firefighting training
that's just a sad sight
I agree, for me it was sad to see him go down the chute. I always pulled for him even before he drove a Dodge. :rotz:
:iagree:
Mayfield pleads guilty to possession of stolen goods: Former NASCAR driver Jeremy Mayfield has pleaded guilty to two counts of misdemeanor possession of stolen goods and one count of misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia. Mayfield will serve no jail time, but will have to pay $88,124.41 in restitution to the victims. $60,000 of that was paid Monday, with the rest being paid Tuesday, officials told WBTV. He will serve a 45-day suspended sentence and 18 months of unsupervised probation. Mayfield's home in Catawba County was searched in 2011 and items alleged to be stolen were taken by law enforcement as evidence. Mayfield was suspended indefinitely from NASCAR in May 2009 after testing positive for methamphetamine.(WBTV)(1-7-2014)
Preseason testing Thursday at Daytona. :popcrn:
Is it on tv?
Yes, it is. :woohoo: 1 pm est on FS1
Quote from: Aero426 on January 07, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Mayfield pleads guilty to possession of stolen goods: Former NASCAR driver Jeremy Mayfield has pleaded guilty to two counts of misdemeanor possession of stolen goods and one count of misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia. Mayfield will serve no jail time, but will have to pay $88,124.41 in restitution to the victims. $60,000 of that was paid Monday, with the rest being paid Tuesday, officials told WBTV. He will serve a 45-day suspended sentence and 18 months of unsupervised probation. Mayfield's home in Catawba County was searched in 2011 and items alleged to be stolen were taken by law enforcement as evidence. Mayfield was suspended indefinitely from NASCAR in May 2009 after testing positive for methamphetamine.(WBTV)(1-7-2014)
Thanks
Aero426 I did see allot of that a while ago, but couldn't remember all the details... It's so sad that someone who had so much going for them & could have had most anything, does something so stupid, throws it all in the dumpster, jeopardize everything because of drugs {speed/crank/Meth, that's the MO of Meth-heads} I'm sure, would result to committing petty crimes...
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 08, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
Yes, it is. :woohoo: 1 est on FS1
I get motorcycle racing :shruggy:
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 08, 2014, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 08, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
Yes, it is. :woohoo: 1 est on FS1
I get motorcycle racing :shruggy:
Motorcycle racing today, Nascar racing tomorrow. Today is Wednesday. I said it'd be on Thursday
I knew that..... :P
So much for testing today :brickwall: Mother nature has other plans
Another day of testing on today. Even Rusty Wallace is out there logging laps with a gold 2 :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka:
(https://sp2.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HJ.139625781446&pid=15.1)
met rusty. nice guy. got plenty of memorabilia from that day. even got to have lunch with him :yesnod:
NASCAR considering radical Chase changes
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nascar-considered-radical-chase-182135664--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nascar-considered-radical-chase-182135664--nascar.html)
"A 16-driver championship field that would be whittled down to create a winner-take-all season finale is among radical changes reportedly being considered by NASCAR. Three major changes beginning with expanding the field from 12 drivers to 16 - meaning a win during the ''regular season'' would virtually guarantee a driver a spot in the field.
Once the field is set, The Observer said NASCAR is considering eliminations during the 10-race Chase.
The field would be cut after the third, sixth and ninth races. The proposed eliminations would drop the lowest four drivers from title contention after the third, sixth and ninth races, leaving four drivers eligible for a ''winner-take-all'' race in the season finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway. The four remaining drivers would go into Homestead with their points reset and tied in the standings."
Do away with the Chase and leave the drama to what's on the track.
And stop trying to "level" the field. You don't make the fastest Olympians run with a loaded backpack to even the competition. Let them race.
Brian France is not interested in what the fans think. Almost any Nascar forum you read the majority hates any type of Chase or "playoff" format, yet they are still sticking to it. The big drive behind trying to change it is that they are trying to compete with the Baseball playoffs and the start of the football season. They usually lost some viewers and the sponsers were complaining about that and the people paying for commercial time would not pay as much because of it.
In my opinion, they should start the season the first weekend in January and race on all the southern tracks like Homestead, Daytona, Texas, Talledega, Phoenix, California, Charlotte, etc for the first 7 weeks. Double a couple of these to make it to 9 weeks if necessary and then start going to more northerly tracks after that. If they raced every weekend they would have race 36 on Labor Day weekend. This way they would not be competing with MLB playoffs and NFL. They could go back to old style points and stop trying to create the drama and have from Sept-December to get ready for the next season. Just an idea.
Whew...............Longest thread ever.
I like the old cars from the body cheat days :drool5:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/BROCKWOOD64/CHARGER/2vi-vi_zpsff021b19.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/BROCKWOOD64/media/CHARGER/2vi-vi_zpsff021b19.jpg.html)
Rumor floating around that Haas might start a F1 team :popcrn:
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/21/nascar-team-owner-working-to-launch-formula-one-team/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000588
Looks like they're going to knock out qualifying as well.
I saw that too. Well, if they got the money, why not. I forgot what knock out qualifying is :P
Knock out qualifying: Every car goes out on the track and run as fast as they can for x amount of laps. Afterwards, Nascar takes the top 25 cars or so, and run them for x amount of laps as fast as they can. Next, the top 10 or 12 cars will run until the rest of laps are run. The faster you run, the better your starting position.
I have been saying this for years...my thought was if 60 came to qualify, the top 43 speeds got in...no more provisional, no past champion saves...every man for himself. If you crash during qualify, yer watching from the trailer...
also, pit stalls drawn at random after the top 43 are in...kinda like a bingo draw...no more fastest qualifier getting to pick pit stall...random draw as well
Wont be long til they have a huge crash in qualifying and all the drivers complain about it :lol:
But it will make things interesting :yesnod:
Even if they do wreck, they may still get in on fastest lap. Unless there is a Past Champions' Provisional, it's nice to think that there's a slim possibility that Johnson won't make the race. There will be a lot of disappointed fans if Jr. doesn't make a race :rofl:
Dodge not planning return to NASCAR anytime soon: It's the question all Dodge stock-car fans want to know: When will the manufacturer return to NASCAR? Not in 2014, that's for sure. While Dodge continues to discuss stock-car racing, according to Ralph Gilles, president and CEO of SRT Brand and Motorsports, Chrysler Group LLC, "the timing isn't right." But Gilles is well aware that stock-car enthusiasts miss the Dodge brand in NASCAR's garages" so never say never. "We haven't forgotten about NASCAR," Gilles told FOX Sports on Friday. "We have a lot of pressure on our capital right now. The Dodge brand has a new chief (Timothy Kuniskis, president and CEO of Dodge Brand), right? He's an enthusiast. He owns a Charger himself, it's his daily drive. He has an older one and a new one. He gets it. He understands. But timing is everything. To get back in the sport is not an insignificant investment. It's something that we've said no to. This year is out of the question, but the future, anything could happen. The fans want us back, so we'll see."(FoxSports)(1-25-2014)
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 19, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
Do away with the Chase and leave the drama to what's on the track.
Thats for sure :2thumbs:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 22, 2014, 03:50:41 PM
Rumor floating around that Haas might start a F1 team :popcrn:
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/21/nascar-team-owner-working-to-launch-formula-one-team/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000588
Looks like they're going to knock out qualifying as well.
All lies. . remember they don't have any money. That is why they let Ryan go. . . Yes, I am still bitter. :RantExplode:
and yet they had the money to make a 4 car team after Tony said that they could not.....I hope Ryan blows their door off
I predict Kurt is going to be odd man out.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 28, 2014, 11:39:09 PM
I predict Kurt is going to be odd man out.
Maybe. . . .Haas thinks Kurt is one of the best drivers out there. They used to no sponsor excuse to move Ryan along but then they sponsor Kurt with Haas Automation. I do believe most of this was Haas' doing as Stewart was still in the hospital and was partially out of the loop. Still. . . bitter. :RantExplode:
Kurt Busch would like to do the "Double Duty" thing with running both NASCAR and the Indy 500 this year. And, it sounds as if the door hasn't been closed on this idea as yet, with Kurt stating that the deal was 70% complete. I for one would love to see this as it hasn't been done in some time.....we'll see if it really happens.
Penske might just add another Sprint car team, with Ryan Blaney behind the wheel. He is scheduled for two Sprint Cap starts this year, plus he is driving full time in the Truck series and perhaps 15 Nationwide races. I guess that means Sam Hornish Jr. is totally out....hope something opens up for him.
I am looking forward to seeing how rookies Kyle Larson and Austin Dillon do this year...should be interesting since both are high profile and many are expecting great things from both. (*Perhaps too much?)
And, last but not least...the new format for the Chase this year....I'll reframe from saying much until I see it in action......
Quote from: wingcar on January 30, 2014, 10:23:34 AM
I am looking forward to seeing how rookies Kyle Larson and Austin Dillon do this year...should be interesting since both are high profile and many are expecting great things from both. (*Perhaps too much?)
I predict that both Larson and Dillon will out perform Danica.
Hornish has seven races lined up with Joe Gibbs in Nationwide. He is driving the #54 when Kyle Busch is not in the seat.
Quote from: Aero426 on January 30, 2014, 10:43:20 AM
Quote from: wingcar on January 30, 2014, 10:23:34 AM
I am looking forward to seeing how rookies Kyle Larson and Austin Dillon do this year...should be interesting since both are high profile and many are expecting great things from both. (*Perhaps too much?)
I predict that both Larson and Dillon will out perform Danica.
Hornish has seven races lined up with Joe Gibbs in Nationwide. He is driving the #54 when Kyle Busch is not in the seat.
It amazes me drivers like Nemechek, Gilliland, J.J. Yeley, Danica, Lebonte, ect all have Cup rides but Sam does not. :shruggy:
The guy not even get a full time Nationwide ride. . .I just don't get it.
Premium driver premium paycheck. Nemecheck owns his own team.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 30, 2014, 11:33:55 AM
Premium driver premium paycheck. Nemecheck owns his own team.
Yep on Nemechek. It's his own deal.
Danica brings a sponsor. You brings the money, you gets to drive.
Labonte (both of them) is a past champion, so he has a start in his back pocket
Yeley? I don't know how he manages to stick around in Cup.
Sam? I don't know. He can run towards the front in Nationwide, but...... Does he have a stigma about him for getting a Cup ride? Could be. If he had a decent sponsor to bring along, I am sure he would be in a car. Personally, I think he is an Elliott Sadler type and although be competitive Nationwide, he will be close to maxed out in Cup.
Just to clarify my last statement, I doubt that the teams that Yeley and Gilliland drive for could afford to have more talented drivers drive for them. They're good drivers, but they're driving those cars for a reason. They can give those cars a good showing from time to time, but not on a consistent level that other drivers can.
The field could easily be cut to 35 cars (or less) and get rid of the junk and start and parks in the back.
Quote from: Aero426 on January 30, 2014, 01:56:32 PM
The field could easily be cut to 35 cars (or less) and get rid of the junk and start and parks in the back.
I totally agree. You could cut the field by half. Get rid of the never has been's and never will be's. There are never really anymore than 15, maybe 18 guys who really stand a chance of winning on race day. The rest are just. . . driving in a circle.
Huh? :shruggy: :scratchchin:
QuoteNASCAR Announces Chase For The NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship Format Change: NASCAR announced a new championship format today that will put greater emphasis on winning races all season long, expands the current Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup field to 16 drivers, and implements a new round-by-round advancement format that ultimately will reward a battle-tested, worthy champion. We have arrived at a format that makes every race matter even more, diminishes points racing, puts a premium on winning races and concludes with a best-of-the-best, first-to-the-finish line showdown race all of which is exactly what fans want, said Brian France, NASCAR chairman and CEO. We have looked at a number of concepts for the last three years through fan research, models and simulations, and also maintained extensive dialogue with our drivers, teams and partners. The new Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup will be thrilling, easy to understand and help drive our sports competition to a whole new level.
Changes announced by France to the championship format include:
- A victory in the first 26 races all but guarantees a berth in the 10-race Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup a change that will put an unprecedented importance on winning a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race all season long
- Expanding the Chase field from 12 to 16 drivers, with those drivers advancing to what now will be known as the NASCAR Chase Grid
- The number of championship drivers in contention for the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship will decrease after every three Chase races, from 16 to start in the Chase Grid; 12 after Chase race No. 3; eight after Chase race No. 6; and four after Chase race No. 9
- The first three races of the Chase (27-29) will be known as the Challenger Round
- Races 30-32 will be known as the Contender Round
- Races 33-35 will be the Eliminator Round and race No. 36 will be the NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship
- A win by a championship-eligible driver in any Chase race automatically clinches the winning driver a spot in the next Chase round
- Four drivers will enter the NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship with a chance at the title, with the highest finisher among those four capturing the prestigious NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship.
Eligibility for the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup: The top 15 drivers with the most wins over the first 26 races will earn a spot in the NASCAR Chase Grid provided they have finished in the top 30 in points and attempted to qualify for every race (except in rare instances). The 16th Chase position will go to the points leader after race No. 26, if he/she does not have a victory. In the event that there are 16 or more different winners over 26 races, the only winless driver who can earn a Chase Grid spot would be the points leader after 26 races.
If there are fewer than 16 different winners in the first 26 races, the remaining Chase Grid positions will go to those winless drivers highest in points. If there are 16 or more winners in the first 26 races, the ties will first be broken by number of wins, followed by NASCAR Sprint Cup Series driver points.
As was implemented in 2011, prior to the start of the Chase, all Chase Grid drivers will have their points adjusted to 2,000, with three additional bonus points added to their total for each win in the first 26 races.
Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup Structure After the third Chase race, the Chase Grid will be left with 12 drivers. After the sixth Chase race, the field will drop to eight drivers, and following the ninth Chase race, only four drivers will remain in championship contention for the NASCAR Sprint Cup title.
The first round (races 27-29) will be called the Challenger Round. If a driver in the Chase Grid wins a Challenger Round race, the driver automatically advances to the next round. The remaining available positions 1-12 that have not been filled based upon wins will be based on points. Each will then have their points reset to 3,000.
The second round (races 30-32) will be called the Contender Round. Likewise, if a driver in the top 12 in points wins a race in the Contender Round, the driver automatically advances to the next round. The remaining available positions 1-8 that have not been filled based upon wins will be based on points. Each will then have their points reset to 4,000.
The third round (races 33-35) will be called the Eliminator Round. If a driver in the top eight in points wins a race in the Eliminator Round, the driver automatically advances to the next round. The remaining available positions 1-4 that have not been filled based upon wins will be based on points. Each will then have their points reset to 5,000.
Additionally, drivers who are eliminated in the Contender and Eliminator Rounds will have their points readjusted. Each eliminated driver will return to the Chase-start base of 2,000 (plus any regular season wins bonus points), with their accumulated points starting with race No. 27 added. This will allow all drivers not in contention for the NASCAR Sprint Cup title to continue to race for the best possible season-long standing, with final positions fifth-through-16th still up for grabs.
Four Drivers, First-to-the-Finish Championship Finale The 36th and final race of the season will be the NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship. Simply stated, the highest finisher in that race among the remaining four eligible drivers will win the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series title. Bonus points for laps led will not apply in the season finale, so the official finishing position alone will decide the champion.
All rules outlined above also apply to the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series owner championship structure.(NASCAR)(1-30-2014)
http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20140130chase
Looks like they're doing the Elimination bracket style like NHRA uses. Just another way to create drama in the series :eyes:
Basically, all you have to do is win one race to qualify, run consistent the rest of the year, then win one race and you're the champion.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on January 30, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
Looks like they're doing the Elimination bracket style like NHRA uses. Just another way to create drama in the series :eyes:
Basically, all you have to do is win one race to qualify, run consistent the rest of the year, then win one race and you're the champion.
It may be interesting not quite that easy but if you can win early win one in the chase and win at Homestead you could be Jimmy Johnson... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
I'm sure Knauss has already figured out how to win it.
Brian France deserves a kick in the nuts.
Go with this:
1) Points the way they used to be, not this one point per position crap they have now. Passing Danica for 34th place shouldn't have the same value as going by Stewart for 3rd. (Why a solid driver is back in 34th is another story....let's just keep it simple.)
2) Make poles worth some points.
3) No points for leading a lap.
-This rule is just ridiculous. It doesn't reward competitiveness, just good timing. Just cause you're the last guy to come into pit road, for example, you get a point? Dumb. A million years ago when Petty and Pearson started 1-2 and took turns leading the race, it made sense to give someone else a pat on the back for wrestling the lead away for a lap or two. Not now.
4) Make wins worth a few more points than they are now.
5) After Richmond, the top 10 drivers are in the Chase and get a total reset in points. Even.
-After 26 races, the best teams/most consistent drivers will be in the top 10. Will a few favorites be on the outside looking in? Possibly. But every team had 26 races to get there. Is it really fair that someone with bad season, but happened to win one race (Trevor Bayne, anyone?) might lock out a driver with a solid season?
6) Run 7 races, keeping track of points for the Chasers the same way as in the first 26 races.
7) Before the 8th race of the Chase, take the top 5 drivers, reset their points, and have 3 race shootout between 5 drivers.
-The championship should not be decided by one race, at one track, where a driver's style/skillset might be an advantage, or something happens to a driver that's not his or his team's fault. "Ohhhhhh........man.......tell so-and-so that I didn't mean to spin him out, or wreck in front of him, or bang the wall with a couple laps to go and f*ck up his 3 second lead, or dive-bomb him on the re-start and put him in the wall." Yeah, bullsh*t.
Junior's excuse why he won't win this year:
"The track was slick."
People moan and complain about how NASCAR is not like the good old days. If that is you, guess what? You are not alone. Listen to Bobby Isaac after clinching the 1970 title at Rockingham by finishing 7th, 14(!) laps off the pace.
"Money, man. Money. That's what this business is all about." (His indifference makes you shiver.) "Listen, you think what I was doing out there was racing? All I did was try to stay out of everybody's way. It wasn't racing. It's been a long time since I've been racing. It used to be a fun thing, but now it's strictly business."
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
thats right. just a shame it went all the way back to 70. but when the daytona came out, everyone else was just driving around. and if dodge was back and winning every race, i wouldnt complain at all. guess its just what side of the fence your on as to how you feel about nascar. :shruggy:
Strictly my opinion - NASCAR has OUTGROWN itself and I don't think much can be done to remedy the problem. NASCAR has lost its soul. Its all about money, an earlier post proves that. If you ever go out to North Wilksboro its a 2 lane back road off of RT. 421 to get to the track and you park in a field. It has the down home local feel to it that doesn't generate the money present day racing has evolved into. Thing is you can't turn back time. :shruggy:
All major sports now are a business, and the sponsors/TV have a lot of control on what happens. Remember, almost every professional athlete used to have a real job in the offseason 40+ years ago. Once huge tracks/stadiums/free agency and such came about, the deepest pockets could field the best teams, so the same teams/drivers ended up winning most of the time. Now, since these players/drivers are paid way too much money (to lure them over, so as to get more people in the stands and sponsors, in turn to make more money), they are expected to perform at the highest level, which means the team owns them, and they are dedicated to the team. In the end, the costs then get passed on to the fans in the form of higher ticket prices, higher parking fees, higher concession prices, and overpriced merchandising.
So yes, it is all about the money now. 50 years ago, most of the guys drove because they loved it. Look how dangerous it was back then, but they did it anyway and loved it. That's why it was so great then, because of the passion. Now, they are pressured to perform, and condition themselves, and do what the sponsors ask of them... so it becomes a job with a boss, and the passion and love fade. Which, I can say my passion and love for NASCAR is fading as well with that. :(
How can they make it better?? Cap the number of cars a team can have, or they have to kick some winnings back to lesser funded teams so the start and parks can at least run a whole race. Get rid of the frickin' restrictor plates and let the driver's skill determine who is best/fastest. Award more points for wins and poles, nothing for leading less than 10 laps, and more points for passing cars running in the top 10 (maybe a tier system where passing the 30th place gets you little, but passing 4th place gets something better). And if you are in the top 4 in the last race, the winner takes it all of those 4 (meaning the highest finisher).
Finally, make it affordable for people to go once again, so you can take your kids and get the next generation interested. Else, it will die a slow death as us old school people fade away. I wish Brian France would read this forum!
ESPN quit NASCAR
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I've been trying for Day's to commision a leauge but there is no NASCAR.
And Their response.
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http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/2/5/nascar-ray-evernham-leaves-espn-for-hendrick-motorsports.html
Looks like Evernham is returning to Hendrick Motorsports in a management position. Although he claims he won't be in an active position, I wonder how long it'll be before he ends up as crew chief again.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 06, 2014, 01:24:59 PM
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/2/5/nascar-ray-evernham-leaves-espn-for-hendrick-motorsports.html
Looks like Evernham is returning to Hendrick Motorsports in a management position. Although he claims he won't be in an active position, I wonder how long it'll be before he ends up as crew chief again.
He's been doing that new show on Velocity with Hendrick, called AmeriCarna, for a while now. I assume they filmed last summer/fall, and he was calling Hendrick "boss" then. So not too surprising, and I bet you're right he'll end up as crew chief. The show, BTW, is not really that good. Evernham does a decent job, but Hendrick needs to stick to running his company.
Why would he want to get back into the grind of being a crew chief? I don't see it happening.
Quote from: RAC95054 on February 06, 2014, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 06, 2014, 01:24:59 PM
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/2/5/nascar-ray-evernham-leaves-espn-for-hendrick-motorsports.html
Looks like Evernham is returning to Hendrick Motorsports in a management position. Although he claims he won't be in an active position, I wonder how long it'll be before he ends up as crew chief again.
He's been doing that new show on Velocity with Hendrick, called AmeriCarna, for a while now. I assume they filmed last summer/fall, and he was calling Hendrick "boss" then. So not too surprising, and I bet you're right he'll end up as crew chief. The show, BTW, is not really that good. Evernham does a decent job, but Hendrick needs to stick to running his company.
I been watching that show. I like it though. But I also noticed that.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 06, 2014, 07:09:44 PM
Why would he want to get back into the grind of being a crew chief? I don't see it happening.
I don't either...he said numerous times he does not want to "Crew Chief" again....guess we will see
I think it'd actually be good for Knauss to have some in house competition. You have to know that Chad gets whatever he wants for his team. Shake things up in there and see how Chad and Jimmie like competition from teammates.
:smilielol: wishful thinking I don't see him on the box as a regular but I could see him as a coach for all the team crew chiefs.
Okay.. with the first race of the 2014 season this coming Saturday night (The Shootout at night & the ARCA race in the afternoon), does anyone have the track schedule for the week including tv schedules?
SPEED used to cover a lot of the practice, and I don't know if Fox Sports 1 will be as well?
I went to NASCAR.com and printed out all the schedule for all 3 series:
here's the first few...and yea, Fox Sports 1 will cover all of the truck races and the All-Star race at Charlotte for Cup
Cup - Sprint Unlimited - Fox Sports 1 (2-15-14)
Cup - Qualifying for the 500 - Fox (2-16-14)
Cup - Budweiser Duel - Fox Sports 1 (2-20-14)
I ment like the pre race practice and stuff before the 500.
I get all my schedules from here http://www.tvracer.com/ (http://www.tvracer.com/) And the ARCA one from the ARCA site http://www.arcaracing.com/ (http://www.arcaracing.com/)
I'll look tomorrow, but I think it's all on Fox Sports 1 this week...practice & testing
There's some truth to this article from Petty interview :yesnod: Plus, a little smack about Danica :lol:
http://www.wheels.ca/news/danica-will-only-win-in-nascar-sprint-cup-if-shes-by-herself-richard-petty-says/
I saw that Petty interview article and loved this one on-line posted response:
"Richard Petty is being sexist? Really? Webster's Dictionary defines sexism as "behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex".
Now, let's go to Ms. Patricks's website and look at her photos where her clothing is scant and her poses, extremely suggestive. Then consider the fact that she made $15 million dollars last year of which $58, 000 was winnings. You can only conclude that sex sells, which is fine, but let's call it what it is."
So, Danica made $15M? The bigger picture is that her Owners and sponsors made a helluva lot more than that! She's not a racing success, but she is a business success. Any other mediocre driver would be long gone - her existence in Nascar is based on the money-making machine tied to her novelty in the sport spectacle, and the corresponding selling of sex. Richard Petty is speaking the truth, as painful as it is to some people.
I listen to the NASCAR Station on the way home from work and Richard's interview is all they are talking about. The main theme appears to be how much his comments are going to hurt NASCAR in the eyes of the mainstream non-racing public. And, how we (the fans) should be trying everything to get them involved and interested. **News flash...many of those in the mainstream are never going to watch and could care less about auto racing. I believe NASCARs changing of the rules so often and for that matter the complete restructuring of how the Championship is crowned does more too hurt NASCAR than Richard's words. I have had people ask me, why if NASCAR series is so great do they have to change everything each year....that's how the general public see's NASCAR, not to mention the fact that they feel auto racing is not even a sport. (And, that will never change in many eyes).
Bottomline: If she was male, she would be gone, but she sells because of her looks. Not saying it's good or bad, just stating what I feel is a fact. Go Daddy is in NASCAR because she gives them exposure...(sorry about the play on words). NASCAR is too expensive for a company to pay a driver to finish mid pack race after race....unless that driver gets "air time", which she does due to her sex. It's all about the money! When (and if) she stops bringing in the dollars for Go Daddy, they will leave her.
And, Dale Earnhardt Jr. had better start winning some racing. I get sick and tired of hearing how he is the Fan favorite year after year, and in many a race he to finishes in the middle of the pack....if he finishes at all. We all know the "Fan" vote is a direct by product of a driver's fan club...his knows how to get the vote out and does.
I like Richard and he earned the right to say anything he wants about NASCAR....fact is HE made NASCAR what it became by his past actions and performance. He's been around and knows a thing or two about drivers.....let's see if Dania proves the King wrong. But, I am sure the King is not losing any sleep over that possibly. :Twocents:
Quote from: RallyeMike on February 11, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
So, Danica made $15M? The bigger picture is that her Owners and sponsors made a helluva lot more than that! She's not a racing success, but she is a business success. Any other mediocre driver would be long gone - her existence in Nascar is based on the money-making machine tied to her novelty in the sport spectacle, and the corresponding selling of sex. Richard Petty is speaking the truth, as painful as it is to some people.
I am not sure if a male version of her would have even been brought up to the Cup series, just my opinion. She has a great sponsor, that is the only reason she has a ride.
It was funny watching Stewart out there today doing damage control. It is kind of like someone defending what a "great job" our federal government is doing. :P
QuoteI am not sure if a male version of her would have even been brought up to the Cup series, just my opinion.
I think that also matches general opinion. In 6 or 7 years with Indy, she won 1 race. Would Joe Blow have gotten the shot at a Cup ride?
Quotenot to mention the fact that they feel auto racing is not even a sport
I get this from my sports fan friends all the time. "Car racing is not a sport... blah blah blah".... and then they point out the chain smoking Dick Trickle, other old drivers etc.
My response: "Yes, its a team event requiring altogether different talents and abilities. That's why they coined the term 'Motorsport' - so we don't have to listen to you cry about it!" :o
Hemingway once said that bullfighting and auto racing are the only true sports, everything else is just a game. (when was the last time a baseball player was killed during a game?)
Quote from: Ghoste on February 12, 2014, 09:46:46 AM
Hemingway once said that bullfighting and auto racing are the only true sports, everything else is just a game. (when was the last time a baseball player was killed during a game?)
I hear ya, more fans die from being drunk or stupid and fall out of the stadium :P
Watching the ARCA race right now on Fox Sports 1, and 15 minutes into it, they already had a 15 car pileup and a fight in the pits over it :P
I'm surprised it didn't end in a wreck fest. Not a bad race. Won't get to watch the race later on tonight. :brickwall:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 15, 2014, 06:06:03 PM
I'm surprised it didn't end in a wreck fest. Not a bad race. Won't get to watch the race later on tonight. :brickwall:
Record it for later.
another 4.5 months of listening to "Mickey Motor-mouth" :brickwall:
Bud Shootout time. . . . or whatever they call it now.
That was a heck of a wreck and took out a lot of cars.
:o Johnson was the first caution before this one when he spun on his own and plowed into the infield wall. :2thumbs:
This wreck took out half of the cars. Only 9 left running now :lol:
Stenhouse sure slammed into his sweetheart. . . that was a hard hit she took.
And the pace car catches on fire while on the track. Not the kind of publicity GM was hoping for I am sure.
And the King stands by his statement. The best part of this article is what the King is standing in front of. . . A beautiful Alpine White Superbird. :2thumbs:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/15/i-am-not-a-sexist-racing-legend-stands-by-danica-patrick-verbal-swipe/
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
And the pace car catches on fire while on the track. Not the kind of publicity GM was hoping for I am sure.
see?? we don't need Montoya here for track equipment failure.... :rofl:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
Stenhouse sure slammed into his sweetheart. . . that was a hard hit she took.
I'm seeing separate beds tonight for those two.... :smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 15, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
And the pace car catches on fire while on the track. Not the kind of publicity GM was hoping for I am sure.
see?? we don't need Montoya here for track equipment failure.... :rofl:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
Stenhouse sure slammed into his sweetheart. . . that was a hard hit she took.
I'm seeing separate beds tonight for those two.... :smilielol:
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
Stenhouse sure slammed into his sweetheart. . . that was a hard hit she took.
Ricky says she's used to it... :naughty:
:lol:
from jayskis site
Petty stands by Danica remarks: Richard Petty said he is no sexist and defended his right to express his opinions a week after comments about Sprint Cup driver #10-Danica Patrick unleashed a backlash against the Hall of Fame driver and current team owner. At a trade show in Canada, Petty said Patrick, a second-year driver at NASCAR's highest level, could only win "if everybody else stayed home." Before the Sprint Unlimited on Saturday at Daytona International Speedway, Petty expressed his opinion on the firestorm. "What I said is what I said, and that's what I believe, OK?" he said. "What's unfair is the sexist part. If her name had been Danny, OK, nobody would have said anything about it. So y'all are bringing up the sexist part of it, not me." Petty added, "It was definitely not sexist, OK? Hey look, I've been married 55 years to the same woman. So I am not a sexist by any ways. I love women." Petty said Saturday he wouldn't hesitate to express his opinions in the future. He noted that his comments generated a national NASCAR news cycle in the lull before SpeedWeeks, oddly verifying Patrick's ability to generate publicity even while being critiqued. "There was nothing going on NASCAR racing. Nobody was talking about Daytona," he said. "Nobody was talking about nothing. Look at all the publicity NASCAR got and she got just for one little comment."(ESPN)(2-16-2014)
GO RICHARD! :cheers:
Qualifying starting now.
Hendrick and Stewart Haas have lost 3 engines in last two days. :2thumbs:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
And the pace car catches on fire while on the track. Not the kind of publicity GM was hoping for I am sure.
Chevrolet releases statement Sunday morning, confirms fire in trunk area, which contained "a purpose-built auxiliary electrical kit to operate the numerous caution lights during the race."
Quote from: A383Wing on February 16, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 15, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
And the pace car catches on fire while on the track. Not the kind of publicity GM was hoping for I am sure.
Chevrolet releases statement Sunday morning, confirms fire in trunk area, which contained "a purpose-built auxiliary electrical kit to operate the numerous caution lights during the race."
Those Chinese resistors don't last.... :lol:
yea..made with cheap off-shore Chinese circuit boards and wiring
well, crap..."Rich punk-ass kid Austin Dildo" got the pole.....
riding grandpa's shirt tales again
That ought to make the 3 fans happy. :P
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 17, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
That ought to make the 3 fans happy. :P
Yeah, all three of them! :smilielol:
well, not that it isnt known, but im a newman fan. and where newman hangs his helmet is where my rooting follows. so for the tony lovers, i laughed when the team got decimated in 1 accident. im rooting for childress racing. although it still seems that even with new teammates ryan still has no friends on the track. time will tell, but for now, i will root for the team, for ryan, and even the punk kid.
Several thoughts regarding the beginning of the NASCAR season:
• If the Sprint Unlimited Race is any indication of how the season will progress....teams are going to need to build more cars....but then the fans will like the bumper bending.
• People need to get over the Austin Dillon thing...it was his Grandfather's number to use or not use, and he chose to bring it back with his Grandson. If it was going to come back, this was the best way to do that. And, the famous number 3 will be sitting on the pole which is a great way to bring it back. And one last thing...this in no way takes anything away from Dale as he made the number 3 famous....it will always be his number, just as the number 43 will always be Richard's no matter who sits behind the wheel.
• Looks as if RCR might have an advantage over Hendricks this year....I personally hope so as I really would like to see a different series champion winner this year.
• Sad that Richard has to defend himself at a personal level (about being sexist) for stating HIS opinion. Everyone has an opinion...it doesn't mean everyone needs to agree. (*I hate this PC world we live in)
• The Fords are very strong so far, perhaps they will have something for the Chevy's this year.
• Chevy's pace car catching fire was not the kind of exposure they were hoping for. Never heard of a pace car catching fire in the past. (Entertaining as it was....)
• I really miss not having Dodge out there.
• Confirmed that I can't sit through an entire race on TV. Maybe I should say the programming leading up to the race. (Different when I am there in person)
I'll leave it at that...
I just wonder who is gonna be the first to take grandson out. :scratchchin: It's a big gamble for whoever does it given how much influence Richard Childress has. If I recall, didn't he go after someone in the truck series over running into I believe was one of the Dillon boys? I probably won't watch it like I did last year, getting way too much show and little real racing like when Petty, Pearson and the Allison bros. were racing. :rotz:
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 17, 2014, 08:28:50 AM
well, not that it isnt known, but im a newman fan. and where newman hangs his helmet is where my rooting follows. so for the tony lovers, i laughed when the team got decimated in 1 accident. im rooting for childress racing. although it still seems that even with new teammates ryan still has no friends on the track. time will tell, but for now, i will root for the team, for ryan, and even the punk kid.
I believe we are the two main Newman fans here. It is weird cheering for a new team, but I will also be cheering for RCR. As a side note, I loved it when 2 out of the 4 SHR engines blew. :D
Quote from: red72chrgr on February 17, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
I just wonder who is gonna be the first to take grandson out. :scratchchin: It's a big gamble for whoever does it given how much influence Richard Childress has. If I recall, didn't he go after someone in the truck series over running into I believe was one of the Dillon boys? I probably won't watch it like I did last year, getting way too much show and little real racing like when Petty, Pearson and the Allison bros. were racing. :rotz:
My guess, Logano.
Dale who??? :shruggy:
:eek2:
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
I'm a Ryan Newman fan also...
I hope Dillon either takes himself out or someone does it for him.
Logano is a tool, another whiny ass punk
lots of new names this year in Cup...it's still a shame that Jeff Burton could not get a ride
Even the old Dodge Charger store displays are relegated to holding last year's $2 hats. At K-Mart down the road from the speedway.
I don't mind Newman either, of course I'm a Penske fan. Drivers that no longer drive for Penske also get my vote (Nascar only).
But, my two drivers to watch this year will be Kyle Larson and Truex Jr. Larson because he's the new kid in town, and he's been solid in everything thrown at him. I'll be keeping tabs on Truex Jr. because mostly of what Busch did in it. It'll be interesting to see if he can do better, or if he'll drag the team down.
Handful of drivers going to back up cars with a wreck in practice. Logano, Klingerman, Ryan Truex, Dave Blaney, and Menard included. Blaney has no back up car.
I missed it today. I'm sure it will be replayed later though.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Handful of drivers going to back up cars with a wreck in practice. Logano, Klingerman, Ryan Truex, Dave Blaney, and Menard included. Blaney has no back up car.
Joey cause this wreck also?
Now we get the big one during practice I hate the new plate rules :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
video of the crash
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/video?related=f5b8b35f-e91c-4551-aedb-9880b94d12bf
I'm basically a fan of anyone who stops THE #48 Jimmy Johnson, from winning another championship now.... Or who ever takes out Jeff Gordon... Little to route for with no Dodges... Benn a long time Penske fan, so many of his drivers will be my picks, not real fond of the team right now thou... I'm still a Smoke Fan too.. In my pick em' game I have Kyle Busch, Kurt Busch & Kevin Harvick for the 500... just a wild ass hunch, I don't pick with my heart & I'm not a Kyle or Toyota fan at all thou... I think Denny Hamlin will do good too, unfortunately he's in a Toyota too...
Quote from: Budnicks on February 19, 2014, 10:50:17 PM
I'm basically a fan of anyone who stops THE #48 Jimmy Johnson, from winning another championship now.... Or who ever takes out Jeff Gordon...
yea...exactly the same at our house... :2thumbs:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 19, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 19, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Handful of drivers going to back up cars with a wreck in practice. Logano, Klingerman, Ryan Truex, Dave Blaney, and Menard included. Blaney has no back up car.
Joey cause this wreck also?
Kenseth slowed up into Joey and caused him to get sideways. They showed the hands of both Kenseth and Joey, neither of them turned into each other. They just drifted into each other. Joey couldn't save it quick enough.
Quote from: A383Wing on February 20, 2014, 12:14:31 AM
Quote from: Budnicks on February 19, 2014, 10:50:17 PM
I'm basically a fan of anyone who stops THE #48 Jimmy Johnson, from winning another championship now.... Or who ever takes out Jeff Gordon...
yea...exactly the same at our house... :2thumbs:
Same here, Although, I am okay with Gordon. Specially since Gordon has even taken out Johnson a few times in the past :lol:
And Stewart is still try to defend his paycheck. . . I mean driver. :D
Stewart: Richard Petty should race Danica: During the first of two PRN Fast Talk Shows at Outback Steakhouse in Daytona with Doug Rice and Mark Garrow, Tony Stewart made it very clear how he feels about the negative remarks Richard Petty made recently about Danica Patrick. "I told her she should challenge Richard to a heads up race," said Stewart. "I think that would pretty much settle it once and for all, maybe get him to shut up a little bit too. He drove in an era when he had cars that were superior to what everybody else was running a lot. I think he forgets that, that NASCAR has changed a lot since he was a driver and how hard it really is now." Stewart added, "I will supply the cars, I don't care. If he wants to race her I'll make sure they have exactly the same set-up in the car and give him a chance. He can drive one of my 14 cars I don't care." It was then suggested if Danica ever won a race that she should ask Petty to autograph the checkered flag. Stewart, however, had another suggestion. "If I were her I'd take it over and cram it up his (bleep)...If it were me, that's just me." The second and final PRN Fast Talk show from the Daytona Outback Steakhouse will take place Thursday from 12-1 with Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick the special guests. Both shows can be heard at goprn.com.(PRN)(2-20-2014)
Dodges Returning to NASCAR
Good news for all those who missed not seeing any Dodges on the track last year. It's being reported that four (4) independent teams have entered the upcoming "Drive 4 COPD 300 Race" as Dodge teams running ex-Penske built Dodge Challengers. The Cars are listed as 2014 Dodge Challengers and will have independent sponsorship. The teams include:
# 28 Mike Wallace
# 67 Clay Greenfield
# 76 Willie Allen
# 80 Johnny Sauer
With other drivers mentioned included Tommy Joe Martins, Mike Harmon, Matt Carter, Matt Debenedetto, and Tanner Berryhill. (All unconfirmed)
Penske rolled out 4 Challengers this week. However there was no mention as to who built the others. Clay Greenfield Twittered pictures of his 2014 Dodge Challenger. And, Martins Motorsports (not Mark Martin) released a statement that it is running two Challengers in all 33 races this year.
It appears likely that all these Dodges are independent and it is doubtful that any of the teams have official Dodge factory backing. One racing official was quoted as saying: "As far as I understand, this is the last year that (the Challenger) body style will be legal, and looking at the teams, I'm not sure this is anything more than a buying up of old cars. The Challenger is a great superspeedway car, and big races like Daytona sound good to sponsors, so smaller teams would have an easier time getting sponsorship, and being able to find a good car for these tracks for cheap is a big plus." (*Remember that the Challenger ran the Nationwide Series, not Sprint Cup).
The fact that Dodges are running after a year of absence is a story in itself, as Dodge left NASCAR after winning their first 21st-century championship, citing the extremely high costs of maintaining a credible presence in the venue. No Dodges are entered in the Sprint Cup Series, so I wouldn't get your hopes up about Dodge planning a full-bore return to NASCAR Sprint Cup racing. However, Dodge does have a major and winning presence in the NASCAR Canadian Tire series, winning last year's championship in that series.
Perhaps we Dodge fans will have something to cheer for after all! And, who knows....maybe, just maybe 2015 will see the return of Dodge (SRT) to the Sprint Cup)...well a person can hope anyway...
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 20, 2014, 08:59:05 AM
And Stewart is still try to defend his paycheck. . . I mean driver. :D
Stewart: Richard Petty should race Danica: During the first of two PRN Fast Talk Shows at Outback Steakhouse in Daytona with Doug Rice and Mark Garrow, Tony Stewart made it very clear how he feels about the negative remarks Richard Petty made recently about Danica Patrick. "I told her she should challenge Richard to a heads up race," said Stewart. "I think that would pretty much settle it once and for all, maybe get him to shut up a little bit too. He drove in an era when he had cars that were superior to what everybody else was running a lot. I think he forgets that, that NASCAR has changed a lot since he was a driver and how hard it really is now." Stewart added, "I will supply the cars, I don't care. If he wants to race her I'll make sure they have exactly the same set-up in the car and give him a chance. He can drive one of my 14 cars I don't care." It was then suggested if Danica ever won a race that she should ask Petty to autograph the checkered flag. Stewart, however, had another suggestion. "If I were her I'd take it over and cram it up his (bleep)...If it were me, that's just me." The second and final PRN Fast Talk show from the Daytona Outback Steakhouse will take place Thursday from 12-1 with Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick the special guests. Both shows can be heard at goprn.com.(PRN)(2-20-2014)
Let's see smaller cars today with better aerodynamics (Aero cars excluded), Power steering, Cool suits, better tires, better safety, better facilities at the tracks, etc., etc. Yes, Tony things have changed, and one of the reasons these changes came about was because of what NASCAR Pioneers like Richard did back in the day to make NASCAR a major sport. Tony and the rest of today's drivers are the beneficiary of what these drivers did from back in the day (and many paid a high price)....Perhaps, Tony should just say thank you and let Danica fight her own battles...she is after all a big girl that wants to play in a man's sport......I have no problem with Tony defending his driver, or even stating his opinion just as Richard did, but he has no right to show disrespect for someone like Richard....Tony show some class and think before you talk. (My two Cents)
Quote from: wingcar on February 20, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
Dodges Returning to NASCAR
Good news for all those who missed not seeing any Dodges on the track last year. It's being reported that four (4) independent teams have entered the upcoming "Drive 4 COPD 300 Race" as Dodge teams running ex-Penske built Dodge Challengers. The Cars are listed as 2014 Dodge Challengers and will have independent sponsorship. The teams include:
# 28 Mike Wallace
# 67 Clay Greenfield
# 76 Willie Allen
# 80 Johnny Sauer
With other drivers mentioned included Tommy Joe Martins, Mike Harmon, Matt Carter, Matt Debenedetto, and Tanner Berryhill. (All unconfirmed)
Penske rolled out 4 Challengers this week. However there was no mention as to who built the others. Clay Greenfield Twittered pictures of his 2014 Dodge Challenger. And, Martins Motorsports (not Mark Martin) released a statement that it is running two Challengers in all 33 races this year.
It appears likely that all these Dodges are independent and it is doubtful that any of the teams have official Dodge factory backing. One racing official was quoted as saying: "As far as I understand, this is the last year that (the Challenger) body style will be legal, and looking at the teams, I'm not sure this is anything more than a buying up of old cars. The Challenger is a great superspeedway car, and big races like Daytona sound good to sponsors, so smaller teams would have an easier time getting sponsorship, and being able to find a good car for these tracks for cheap is a big plus." (*Remember that the Challenger ran the Nationwide Series, not Sprint Cup).
The fact that Dodges are running after a year of absence is a story in itself, as Dodge left NASCAR after winning their first 21st-century championship, citing the extremely high costs of maintaining a credible presence in the venue. No Dodges are entered in the Sprint Cup Series, so I wouldn't get your hopes up about Dodge planning a full-bore return to NASCAR Sprint Cup racing. However, Dodge does have a major and winning presence in the NASCAR Canadian Tire series, winning last year's championship in that series.
Perhaps we Dodge fans will have something to cheer for after all! And, who knows....maybe, just maybe 2015 will see the return of Dodge (SRT) to the Sprint Cup)...well a person can hope anyway...
I'm watching Nationwide practice for Saturdays race, and there are some Challengers running out there too.
Johnson will start at the back in Sundays race :smilielol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 20, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
Johnson will start at the back in Sundays race :smilielol:
After that wreck in the 2nd. duel, he will not be lonely in the back. After all the wrecks and blown engines half the field will be starting in the back row. ;)
It's going to be a very crowded "Back Row"
Have to do another Bud shootout,, to decide position in the back of the pack,,???
johnson hit the wall first ,,so are the 0ther guys behind him ?? at the back??/???
Some great footage from clints air roll in car cam.. but he may need new tires an a alignment,,or new car???
Last lap very exciting,an good footage,smoke an fireworks an lots of spare parts?? ha ha :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: djcarguy on February 21, 2014, 09:38:31 AM
Have to do another Bud shootout,, to decide position in the back of the pack,,???
johnson hit the wall first ,,so are the 0ther guys behind him ?? at the back??/???
Some great footage from clints air roll in car cam.. but he may need new tires an a alignment,,or new car???
Last lap very exciting,an good footage,smoke an fireworks an lots of spare parts?? ha ha :popcrn: :popcrn:
A bunch cars will have to go to the back at the 500 start due to using a backup car, or engine change. Johnson will be more or less in the middle of those cars. Finishing positions in the Duel race were taken from the last electronic scoring loop when the caution flag came out. When the yellow flew, the race was over.
Tony needs to get over this Richard/Danica thing as it's his remarks that keep it going...but then perhaps that is what he wants as it keeps Danica in the spotlight.
The latest thing is that he wants to see a race between Richard and Danica. Let me see: Richard who is way older and hasn't been in a race since 1992, and hasn't even driven a race car (I believe) since the Brickyard 400 was planned (he didn't race, just drove around the track). He has never driven one of the new generation race cars and...well you get the picture.
Danica on the other hand has been racing full time for two years (ok, driving anyway) plus her time behind the wheel of Indy cars before that, and is a lot younger.
Richard has accepted...Tony better hope that the race never takes place as if the King bets her (and my money would be on him) she would NEVER live it down...beaten by an old retired racer.
Note to Tony....close your month and drive........(The King would more than likely even give Tony a run for his money....)
The cars used will be Petty's 2 short track Road Runners turned into wing cars.
We wouldn't want Danica Patrick wrecking a real one now! :smilielol:
And the King accepts the challenge. Stewart opens up his big yap and Richard says lets race.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/02/21/richard-petty-says-hell-race-dancia-patrick/5702169/
wow, they could probably payperview that for 9.95 and make some money, i'd watch it.
so the question is: equal cars, which one wins? he is pretty old
25 lap shoot out. Give Petty a week to reacquaint himself and he'd pull it off. :2thumbs: Age won't be a factor.
I'm sorry, but the National Anthem is not a rock song :brickwall:
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/2/22/5436926/2014-daytona-500-madison-rising-national-anthem-nascar-nationwide-series
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 22, 2014, 01:28:08 AM
25 lap shoot out. Give Petty a week to reacquaint himself and he'd pull it off. :2thumbs: Age won't be a factor.
Maybe give them 2 equal old school cars, like short track '70 road runners. How would Danica handle a car with NO DOWNFORCE ??? :shruggy: :shruggy: :shruggy:
Give HER a week to attempt to get around the track without rounding off the cars corners! :smilielol:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 22, 2014, 04:47:35 PM
I'm sorry, but the National Anthem is not a rock song :brickwall:
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/2/22/5436926/2014-daytona-500-madison-rising-national-anthem-nascar-nationwide-series
yea..not sure why they can't sing it normal without added shrieking or other nonsense
Quote from: A383Wing on February 22, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 22, 2014, 04:47:35 PM
I'm sorry, but the National Anthem is not a rock song :brickwall:
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/2/22/5436926/2014-daytona-500-madison-rising-national-anthem-nascar-nationwide-series
yea..not sure why they can't sing it normal without added shrieking or other nonsense
That was absolutely horrible.... :rotz:
Jimmy Hendricks was the only one that did it good as rock, period!
All this talk of Richard Petty beating Danica Patrick got me thinking, so I looked up the stats for Petty in 1992 and Danica's stats for last year. They are remarkably similar. I think Danica would win just because Petty has not been racing for so many years.
Track size Petty Patrick
2 mi+ 18.9 24.4
1-2 mi 25.6 28.0
Short Track 23.1 23.7
Rd Course 24.5 24.5
Total 23.0 26.1
The big difference is the big tracks, but Petty didn't run in a tight pack the whole race in his day. They were more spread out and less chance for getting caught up in the "BIG ONE" like today.
I also think everyone is kinda missing the point about why people are calling Richard out as being a sexist. Yes, he has a right to his opinion, but I don't recall seeing his opinion about Josh Wise or Cole Whitt or Brian Keselowski written anywhere or him even being asked about them. The whole issue is that the question was raised by the interviewer because she is a women and he let himself be sucked in. Petty would have served himself better if he would have sidestepped the question OR if he would have said something like "I don't believe she has what it takes to win in this series, just like I don't think (pick several young male drivers with no potential to win) has a chance to win a race either. I just don't see it happening for them drivers."
The whole sexist thing would have been entirely avoided this way.
You're right although they would have likely found some way to broadcast out of context then.
Looks like it's going to get flooded out for a while. At least there's plenty of commercials to watch :P
I have a feeling it's going to be run tomorrow. I looked at the radar down there, and there is a ton of weather to the west over the ocean yet. Looks like it will be raining all night there :P
i love how hard they are trying to make this new air blowing system work on drying the track. did they not learn anything from last year where they tried it and after seeing how "fast" it was, tracks opted to use jet dryers??
i swear, i think the crews at a local dragstrip could dry it faster than this
and yes i know the rain has been off and on, but it has been off long enough to have made more progress than this already
rant off
maybe there is hope for the race tonight, before the last commercial break, they showed 4 jet dryers on the track
Quote from: Chargen69 on February 23, 2014, 06:55:18 PM
i love how hard they are trying to make this new air blowing system work on drying the track. did they not learn anything from last year where they tried it and after seeing how "fast" it was, tracks opted to use jet dryers??
i swear, i think the crews at a local dragstrip could dry it faster than this
and yes i know the rain has been off and on, but it has been off long enough to have made more progress than this already
rant off
The issue was not the performance of Air Titan. Some tracks did not want to pay the extra $$$ for the system to be there.
was big $$$ to pay for the jet fuel....tracks did not need that extra expense
And it looks like Harvick started the big one. Danica really took a hard lick. :D
and Dillon caused that one....
Quote from: A383Wing on February 23, 2014, 10:34:17 PM
and Dillon caused that one....
And it looks like he just caused another one. This one he clipped and wrecked his own teammate. . Newman, plus about six other cars.
He better have security with him after getting out of the car.
well thats 2 wreaks that the super 3 has caused... :brickwall:
I for one will be glade when all the hype is over and its just dillion the driver and not the return of the 3...
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Nice win for Jr. He is a good guy, nice to see him win it. :2thumbs:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 23, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
Nice win for Jr. He is a good guy, nice to see him win it. :2thumbs:
X2 :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :cheers:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on February 23, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
Nice win for Jr. He is a good guy, nice to see him win it. :2thumbs:
I would have preferred one of the others.
I think Dale Jr is awesome! - I'm not surprised I'm disagreeing with Stroker either
Great win for Jr. Easy to be a fan when you see how genuine he is.
and his girlfriend is a genuine HOTTIE! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
It's been a long dry spell for Jr. Happy to see him take it.
I would have really have liked to have seen Keselowski or Hamlin win it. As far as Dale Lsr. winning it, it's ok I guess. It's about time he starts showing some success for as much as Hendrick has given him. Just another excuse for the Dale fans to buy another shirt or diecast ::)
It would have been nice if Kayne would have been able to catch a break. I think he should have been excused from speeding on pit road because he had to dodge a wreck. Doesn't matter I guess, he got caught up in another wreck.
Larson, I thought, did rather well for being a rookie and never driven a Cup car. Much better than Dillon. Larson made a few mistakes early on, but they only affected himself, unlike Dillon's. Once he got himself straightened out, he done good until Dillon took him out. If he can perform good at Phoenix and Vegas, I say he'll do real good the rest of the year.
Dillon performed just like he has always done in Cup. I will say that he done a good job saving his car when he go clipped in the right rear by Almirola. But, I don't think he made too many new friends in his big debut.
I'll give Patrick benefit of the doubt that it wasn't her fault, but her incident was probably predicted by quite a few, as was Waltrip's.
On to Phoenix and Post race Inspection :popcrn:
Heck ya! What a finish. Nice to see the pack racing back with Passing! Was great after the rain delay. My wife was laughing at me trying to quietly cheer & scream as the kids had just gone down for bed. Woo Hoo!
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 24, 2014, 12:32:07 AM
As far as Dale Lsr. winning it, it's ok I guess. It's about time he starts showing some success for as much as Hendrick has given him.
Last time I checked, he has more Daytona 500 wins than his old man. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Aero426 on February 24, 2014, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 24, 2014, 12:32:07 AM
As far as Dale Lsr. winning it, it's ok I guess. It's about time he starts showing some success for as much as Hendrick has given him.
Last time I checked, he has more Daytona 500 wins than his old man. :2thumbs:
Try comparing him to his teammates and see where he stacks up.
i remember 2 years ago when hendrick had 6 cars on the track. (yes im including tony and ryan since they were driving hendrick motors and chassis) 5 of the 6 made the chase. one lowly person from hendrick motor sports didnt make it. wonder who? :shruggy:
:nana:
but that will all be forgiven after last night. :D
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 24, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
Try comparing him to what his teammates and see where he stacks up.
Excluding the #48, he was the highest finishing Hendrick car in the points last year.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 24, 2014, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 24, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
Try comparing him to what his teammates and see where he stacks up.
Excluding the #48, he was the highest finishing Hendrick car in the points last year.
Sugar coat it all you want, but when you start comparing stats, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrick_Motorsports he doesn't stack up. He had better stats when he was in DEI. http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/cup/driver/dale-earnhardt-jr./careerstats/371489?q=dale-earnhardt-jr
Folks forget that the #3 car's win in the 500 was under caution...
If not for that, Labonte would have won, leaving the #3 with no Daytona 500 wins... :Twocents:
well whatever you think you think. it is a free country, for now, and i am a Dale JR fan. there is a lot of people on the all time win list that dont have 20 wins
Im ok with Jr's win he was genuinely happy after the race win much more than his DEI days...
I imagine its tough being the son of a legend and everyone expecting you to be one also, just ask Kyle Petty...
Richard petty did a little better than Lee.
Kyle? Not so much.
Buddy Baker's son Brad??
David Pearson's son Larry?
Hard to top 'em....
OK, Dale Jr. has won a race.....now we can all go back to our regular lives and start hating Jimmie Johnson once again....... :D
never stopped hating him.... :D
waiting for the day Dillon puts him in the wall
Ought to look good in the nursing home...
Especially given how awesome it looks now. :lol:
Quote from: Ghoste on February 25, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
Especially given how awesome it looks now. :lol:
Think, before you ink. :smilielol:
Quote from: wingcar on February 25, 2014, 08:42:29 AM
OK, Dale Jr. has won a race.....now we can all go back to our regular lives and start hating Jimmie Johnson once again....... :D
:hah: :2thumbs: :smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 25, 2014, 09:54:29 AM
never stopped hating him.... :D
waiting for the day Dillon puts him in the wall
:hah: he's driving the #3 , that would be appropriate thing for that car & car #/history, he doesn't care it's just Grampa's $$$ money anyway, checkers or wreckers...
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 24, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
Im ok with Jr's win he was genuinely happy after the race win much more than his DEI days...
I imagine its tough being the son of a legend and everyone expecting you to be one also, just ask Kyle Petty...
:2thumbs: I liked Jr. allot better when he was at DEI... :nana: I guess congrats is in order, it's good win for anyone...
I thought this was funny :lol:
I was going to post that pic, and decided against it because aside from the humor that made me laugh, there were a bunch of people hurt in that incident.
Quote from: Aero426 on February 25, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
Ought to look good in the nursing home...
I hope Gordon never wins another. His car will have a huge split down the middle.
TPR
Quote from: Aero426 on February 27, 2014, 10:09:51 AM
I was going to post that pic, and decided against it because aside from the humor that made me laugh, there were a bunch of people hurt in that incident.
Same here....
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 27, 2014, 09:31:08 AM
I thought this was funny :lol:
Thanks
TruckDriver that is funny, either way, sorry if someone in the real pile up wreck was hurt :slap: , but that was still damn funny...
I have Kurt Busch {cheby} & Denny Hamlin as my picks for the Phoenix Race, in a Pickem' game on FBBO forum, what you guys think, I had Kyle Bush too as a qualifier, but didn't really fare to well there, none of them are my favorite drivers {especially in them Toyotas} really just thought, the Busch Bros. would do well at their old home track & Hamlin seems to do well in the early season races too... I see the Fords & Penske team are fast this week, but unfortunately I didn't pick them, oh well...
I think Kurt is a good pick, but I also think Harvick or Biffle are good picks as well. I haven't done my picks yet on Nascar.com. Just waiting for all the practicing to get done.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 01, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
I think Kurt is a good pick, but I also think Harvick or Biffle are good picks as well. I haven't done my picks yet on Nascar.com. Just waiting for all the practicing to get done.
Yea Kurt did ok in the last practice too, I saw he was up-to 4th for quite a while in race mode/trim, I like Harvick too, kind of always have, just needed to mix it up some this week, shorter track & all... We have to have our qual. picks in early, so I don't forget to get my picks in, I do my race picks then too, because if I don't get my race picks in "in time", I'll get 42nd & 43rd place automatically :brickwall: IIRC, I don't want that... sucks when that happens :nana: between bad qual. & wrecks, last 500 I had Kyle (Q), Boywer & Harvick (R), Harvick came way back thou, after the last of the bigger wrecks & some pit time to patch up the messed up car... not doing too well in points "YET" still early thou
Quote from: Budnicks on March 01, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 01, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
I think Kurt is a good pick, but I also think Harvick or Biffle are good picks as well. I haven't done my picks yet on Nascar.com. Just waiting for all the practicing to get done.
Yea Kurt did ok in the last practice too, I saw he was up-to 4th for quite a while in race mode/trim, I like Harvick too, kind of always have, just needed to mix it up some this week, shorter track & all... We have to have our qual. picks in early, so I don't forget to get my picks in, I do my race picks then too, because if I don't get my race picks in "in time", I'll get 42nd & 43rd place automatically :brickwall: IIRC, I don't want that... sucks when that happens :nana: between bad qual. & wrecks, last 500 I had Kyle (Q), Boywer & Harvick (R), Harvick came way back thou, after the last of the bigger wrecks & some pit time to patch up the messed up car... not doing too well in points "YET" still early thou
I had the same problem. A lot of my pix got wiped out in wrecks, but the ones that were still running done well. It put me in the middle of the field of everyone. However, I do real well when it comes to the short tracks. I hope I'm able to get towards the front in the next 10 weeks. After that, it's hard to get up front.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 01, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: Budnicks on March 01, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 01, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
I think Kurt is a good pick, but I also think Harvick or Biffle are good picks as well. I haven't done my picks yet on Nascar.com. Just waiting for all the practicing to get done.
Yea Kurt did ok in the last practice too, I saw he was up-to 4th for quite a while in race mode/trim, I like Harvick too, kind of always have, just needed to mix it up some this week, shorter track & all... We have to have our qual. picks in early, so I don't forget to get my picks in, I do my race picks then too, because if I don't get my race picks in "in time", I'll get 42nd & 43rd place automatically :brickwall: IIRC, I don't want that... sucks when that happens :nana: between bad qual. & wrecks, last 500 I had Kyle (Q), Boywer & Harvick (R), Harvick came way back thou, after the last of the bigger wrecks & some pit time to patch up the messed up car... not doing too well in points "YET" still early thou
I had the same problem. A lot of my pix got wiped out in wrecks, but the ones that were still running done well. It put me in the middle of the field of everyone. However, I do real well when it comes to the short tracks. I hope I'm able to get towards the front in the next 10 weeks. After that, it's hard to get up front.
:2thumbs: Amen to that, if you start out in a hole it's really hard to make it to the Chase :brickwall:
Anyone hear the official results of the Nationwide race?
still in rain delay....KB is leader, ABC said race to conclude on ESPN NEWS, which I don't get
From what I read, officials just called it over...
Kyle Busch won Nationwide race
Thanks. I don't get ESPN News either. There are 2 or 3 races this year if I remember right on that channel too.
I don't either, but I did stay a Holiday Express.
It was on Nascar.com where I got the info.
Did anyone watch the new qualifying formate on tv?
I like the idea but the way fox covered it :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
It made for some bad tv the didn't use the lape tracker so you didn't know who was on a fast lap and who was cooling down. :brickwall:
Crappy
i myself like the ticker tape style notification of the live race position over that new box with 12 or so cars at the same time. but thats just my preference.
so now we have to see that dumb-ass Jeff the cabbie video at every commercial break?
I guess Kurt Busch wasn't the best pick :brickwall: :rofl:
no, kurt was a bad choice. shouldnt have been back on the track to blow up and spread oil. :rotz:
If I was Haas, I'd being having a talk with Hendrick engine department. That's the 4th engine to blow up in the last 2 weeks.
At least Harvick did win :2thumbs:
They need to take the engines that will blow up, and give them to Johnson's team :lol:
I like Harvek so yay! :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 02, 2014, 07:36:38 PM
They need to take the engines that will blow up, and give them to Johnson's team :lol:
I like Harvek so yay! :2thumbs:
:iagree:
jr. is off to his best start since he played with hot wheels on the kitchen floor. he is on fire. or did they finally give him equal cars to the ones i dont like to mention? :shruggy:
anyway, i noticed hendrick was in the winners circle with one of his drivers again. not too rough when you have 5 cars finish in the top 10.
Harvick does not "drive" for Hendrick..Kevin just runs Rick's engines
I thought I saw Childress congratulate Kevin as well..or did I see someone else?
Speaking of Childress, his youg'un didn't do so well. Newman did well though. He was up there playing with JJ for a while.
kevin does have a lot of friends out there,so multiple people will congradulate him.
and not trying to offend anyone,
but "in my opinion" hendrick found a way to put more than 4 cars on the track. my opinion again. not gona be the popular thought of everyone. but rick owns tony and his clan "in my opinion".
so, in my opinion, yes kevin drives for hendrick. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 03, 2014, 11:01:37 AM
kevin does have a lot of friends out there,so multiple people will congradulate him.
and not trying to offend anyone,
but "in my opinion" hendrick found a way to put more than 4 cars on the track. my opinion again. not gona be the popular thought of everyone. but rick owns tony and his clan "in my opinion".
so, in my opinion, yes kevin drives for hendrick. :2thumbs:
Seriously?
You mean you didn't buy the line that Tony got a half interest in the team because he's "smoke"/great guy?
You are not implying Rick Hendrick is not the most ethical team owner in Nascar are you?
I mean......it's not like Rick could ever be accused of.....like bribery or something. Or having too much influence with Nascar.......
You might get the idea I'm not a fan of Hendrick........ :angel:
You sure didn't offend me. :icon_smile_big:
I think we knew this, but now it is official.
Kurt Busch to attempt Indianapolis 500, Coke 600 'double'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/03/04/kurt-busch-indianapolis-500-coca-cola-600-double/6008475/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/03/04/kurt-busch-indianapolis-500-coca-cola-600-double/6008475/)
Looks like 2014 will be Burton's last year as a driver for the most part.
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/05/jeff-burton-kicks-off-final-sprint-cup-season-sunday-in-las-vegas/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
He'll share the 66 with Nemechek and Waltrip for this year before becoming an announcer for NBC next year.
Stewart playing Bandit. The first of a series.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/3/4/5470382/tony-stewart-smokey-and-the-bandit-mobil-commercial-video
Penske scrap headed to its demise.
I'll take the no. 2 off the top. :yesnod:
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on March 07, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
I'll take the no. 2 off the top. :yesnod:
I would too.
I have heard from a couple people I know who work around the NASCAR world, getting a car from PRS is harder than any other race shop. I was told by two people it is because they do not want other shops seeing their set-ups. ::) :shruggy:
With that being said, I have a lead on getting a old Ryan Newman car from SHR, no engine of course. Not sure what I will do with it if I can get it, but it will look cool parked in the garage.
I'm surprised they don't cut them up on the spot.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 07, 2014, 12:04:27 PM
I'm surprised they don't cut them up on the spot.
No need to pay their labor for what they consider common scrap. Plus the build structure is so tightly controlled these days. Anything proprietary has been removed by the time they hit the flatbed.
I wonder how many of those actually went from the scrap yard to someone's house before getting destroyed
There's a guy up here not to far from me who has one of Davey Allison's old #28 race cars...pretty much complete except for drive train
This is a fairly recent photo of Bob Brevak's 1990 ARCA championship car. It is said to be one of Bobby Allison's #12 Miller Buicks.
Logano on the pole, Keselowski on the outside pole. Penske on the front row just like last week :2thumbs:
I hope they take each other out....
Quote from: A383Wing on March 07, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
I hope they take each other out....
What to dinner or to a show...
:smilielol:
Quote from: A383Wing on March 07, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
I hope they take each other out....
:smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: chargerboy69 on March 07, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on March 07, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
I'll take the no. 2 off the top. :yesnod:
I would too.
I have heard from a couple people I know who work around the NASCAR world, getting a car from PRS is harder than any other race shop. I was told by two people it is because they do not want other shops seeing their set-ups. ::) :shruggy:
With that being said, I have a lead on getting a old Ryan Newman car from SHR, no engine of course. Not sure what I will do with it if I can get it, but it will look cool parked in the garage.
thats awesome. what a great score. :2thumbs:
Nascar takes a shock from Keselowski's car after his win yesterday. :scratchchin: http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/08/nns-elliotts-car-found-too-low-shock-taken-from-keselowskis-car/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs Wasn't deemed illegal though, yet...
Shocking news!
:smilielol:
BK WINS :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
not a BK fan, but was quite the finish.....
Quote from: A383Wing on March 09, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
not a BK fan, but was quite the finish.....
Me either.
Brad was just at the right place at the right time, he had a top 5 to top 10 car.
and a smart/lucky crew chief.
Not a fan of fuel mileage races.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 09, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
Not a fan of fuel mileage races.
I agree. They suck
newman finished well......and..............ok, i gotta say it........in front of all the stewart haas cars.......
now some will probably say that if not for bad luck, harvick was running well, patrick got bumped in the back, bush had um well ..... and stewart , well anyway,
did i mention that ryan finished in front of all the stewart haas cars????
i will get over the lousy treatment ryan recieved sometime. not yet though, not yet.
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on March 09, 2014, 06:35:52 AM
Nascar takes a shock from Keselowski's car after his win yesterday. :scratchchin: http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/08/nns-elliotts-car-found-too-low-shock-taken-from-keselowskis-car/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs Wasn't deemed illegal though, yet...
That was Saturdays race, interesting Chase Elliott's car was to low, I guess the nationwide series still has a hight rule?
:smilielol:
I'm stealing that one....great!! :2thumbs:
i love that.
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 09, 2014, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on March 09, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
Not a fan of fuel mileage races.
I agree. They suck
Me either, Earnhardt needed only a few more ounces of fuel... I'm not a big Jr. fan but he should have won... Congrats to Brad/Penske thou...
I consider it more of a strategy race than a fuel mileage race. Wolf had Brad pit off sequence than everyone else and made the right calls. Otherwise, several different drivers were up front, Jr. just being there at the tail end. Brad on the other hand, was upfront most of the day.
Quote from: JB400 on March 11, 2014, 02:16:53 AM
I consider it more of a strategy race than a fuel mileage race. Wolf had Brad pit off sequence than everyone else and made the right calls. Otherwise, several different drivers were up front, Jr. just being there at the tail end. Brad on the other hand, was upfront most of the day.
:2thumbs:
one thing you cant deny, jr. is on fire this year. im not a fan at all, but he is doing well. :scratchchin: maybe they accidently gave him jimmy's cars. im sure jj will be bitching soon if jr. keeps doing so well. :smilielol:
Kenseth has his house on the market. If anyone has a extra $2.7 laying around, it looks like a nice place.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/150-Heathland-Ln_Mooresville_NC_28117_M69664-01049
6 full baths and 3 half baths for five bedrooms? That's nine sets of plumbing fixtures! You need a full time cleaning lady and a plumber on staff down the road to handle the maint work.
He must be making a little more money with Gibbs and Toyota. If I remember correctly, he and his wife just had a nursery redone a couple years ago. I wonder if he's upsizing or down sizing?
Quote from: JB400 on March 12, 2014, 02:59:13 PM
He must be making a little more money with Gibbs and Toyota. If I remember correctly, he and his wife just had a nursery redone a couple years ago. I wonder if he's upsizing or down sizing?
isn't his kid trying to race too? id guess downsizing ;D
Quote from: Aero426 on March 12, 2014, 10:02:19 AM
6 full baths and 3 half baths for five bedrooms? That's nine sets of plumbing fixtures! You need a full time cleaning lady and a plumber on staff down the road to handle the maint work.
Maybe he got a Lowe's gift card for Christmas? :shruggy:
Nascar is allowing teams to use cool down boxes :2thumbs:
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/11/after-safety-concerns-nascar-announces-changes-to-qualifying/
Petty is reopening the museum at his old shop :2thumbs:
Hamlin on the pole at Bristol. BK starts 2nd. Stewart took a provisional :o
Quote from: JB400 on March 14, 2014, 01:19:26 AM
Petty is reopening the museum at his old shop :2thumbs:
Cool :2thumbs:
Race is moved up. Starting at 1 pm eastern time now.
Just tuned to channel now. Start time moved up, but it is raining right now so doubt it will start on time anyway.
they just said about 20 minutes or so as of this post.
green flag...we are racin'.....
going back to racing again :P What? maybe 1000 people in the stands :lol:
Currently swapping between the race and Jeff Dunham on Comedy Central
what channel it on now?? they went to the news, and the news is still on.
Still in rain delay :brickwall: Enjoy the news
cool.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 16, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
what channel it on now?? they went to the news, and the news is still on.
race will resume on FS1 when rain delay is over.....the old "Speed" channel
cars are on the track....but the stands are empty
thanks for the update.
danica...ism.... :shruggy: :D
crying shame, i cant stand carl
.
Nice run for Ambrose.
To bad about Harvick.
Now rain with 3 to go. :brickwall: :brickwall:
Oh well, Good job Carl
Quote from: A383Wing on March 16, 2014, 06:14:02 PM
cars are on the track....but the stands are empty
What did the stands look like at the start of the race?
Quote from: Aero426 on March 16, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on March 16, 2014, 06:14:02 PM
cars are on the track....but the stands are empty
What did the stands look like at the start of the race?
maybe 1/4 full...the rain probably sent a lot of people home....
They were that empty when the race started too. :P
Danica's at it again.....
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/videos/2014/3/16/sprint-cup-series-bristol-wreck-danica-patrick-clint-bower-make-contact-on-pit-road.html
:smilielol: :lol:
thats funny right there. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 17, 2014, 09:19:41 AM
:smilielol: :lol:
Thats real funny.
I'm laughing my A$$ off
:rofl:
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
I'm soooo glad I finished my coffee before that opened.
Cleaning the monitor sucks
LOL! :lol:
Both those pics are great! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Nothing here.
I just wanted to be post # 3000
:cheers:
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on March 18, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
Nothing here.
I just wanted to be post # 3000
:cheers:
You could have at least posted a picture of something pretty to look at. :slap:
Noteworthy, but not as funny as the Danica tow truck pic. :lol:
Quote from: Ghoste on March 18, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
Noteworthy, but not as funny as the Danica tow truck pic. :lol:
Agreed
:lol:
Quote from: JB400 on March 18, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on March 18, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
Nothing here.
I just wanted to be post # 3000
:cheers:
You could have at least posted a picture of something pretty to look at. :slap:
Here You go JB.
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/2012/05/the-moms-of-nascar-drivers-a-mothers-day-photo-essay/
This just ain't right
who's going to win Fontana ??, lets talk about some racing maybe instead, boys will be boys... So far I have Brad K. & Dale Jr. in my race picks & Kyle B. as my qualifier.. any thoughts ??
all three are doing pretty good, and harvick will be up there also. im waiting on kurt. he will be a player sooner than later.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 19, 2014, 05:49:15 PM
all three are doing pretty good, and harvick will be up there also. im waiting on kurt. he will be a player sooner than later.
I had him/Kurt B. either as a qualifier or a race picks, but he had trouble both times I chose him, unfortunately... Fords seem to be good on the 2 mile tracks... I've had Harvick too, I Picked Jr. when he ran out of fuel on the last lap, seems I pick the wrong guy, went with Kyle B. this week just had a feeling/hunch... I didn't pick Brad K. or Jr. when they had wins of course...LOL... :brickwall:
Hard to go wrong with Penske so far this year in qualifying. Both Logano and BK are doing well. During the race, Harvick is always a good choice. Usually, Hendrick and Roush are the ones to watch. Kyle Busch is the wild card. Kenseth and Hamlin maybe good picks as well. We need more time to allow Newman to get comfortable in his ride to really determine how well RCR is doing.
One can not go wrong with Jimmie at Fontana. . . . Harvick too. . as long as his car holds together. :D
Am I dreaming here??? :eek2: Nascar is now doing stand up comedy! :smilielol:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/blogs/Off-Track/nascar-hall-of-fame-sprint-cup-danica-patrick-womens-history-month.html
Even Danica's hauler crashes :smilielol:
Congrats to Kyle Larson on his win at Fontana in Nationwide :2thumbs:
Quote from: JB400 on March 23, 2014, 02:39:13 AM
Congrats to Kyle Larson on his win at Fontana in Nationwide :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
I only saw about the last 30 laps, but it was a great 30 laps.
Quote from: General_01 on March 23, 2014, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from: JB400 on March 23, 2014, 02:39:13 AM
Congrats to Kyle Larson on his win at Fontana in Nationwide :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
I only saw about the last 30 laps, but it was a great 30 laps.
yea...the rest of the race before the last 30 laps or so were really boring
WAS DANICA DRIVING THE THE HAULER ,,TOO OR AGAIN????
LOOKS LIKE HER CAR TRYED TO ESCAPE OR COMMIT SUICIDE BEFORE THE RACE,HA HA HA????????? :nana: :nana: :D :D :Twocents: :Twocents: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Denny Hamlin out of race with a sinus infection. Sam Hornish is in the 11
Good to see the stands are full Today.
They mentioned yesterday that today was sold out
Looks like they're pushing the left sides a little too hard
Excellent finish!!!!!!! :o :o :o :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
wow...what a finish.....you should have seen me do the "happy dance" when JJ's tire blew out.... :2thumbs:
That 15 car is the best team mate the 18 car could of asked for :flame:
That damn clint boyer changed the out come of another race with that spin... :RantExplode:
at least they are looking pretty sporty at the end of the races this year. Martinsville should be exciting
Excellent finish!!!!!!!
:iagree:
Gotta say, I didn't see that coming.
the end sucked.. should of ben caution when JJ blew an thru tire debre all over??????????
THE SECOND THE BUSHY BITCH SISTER WON I SHUT IT OFF :flame: :flame: :flame:
WILL WATCH MARTINSVILLIE THEN WATCH AT THE END OF THE YEARS,,,,,WHEN THE WEATHERS SUCKS AGAIN.DJ.
I agree. The last 1/4 of the race was good :yesnod:
ok, what was wrong here???? tony is listed in 4th place. but he lined up on the inside right behind kurt. shouldnt that be third position? :shruggy:
they said they were setting the field, but never had the 3rd position driver drop to the bottom and push tony to the outside. they restarted the race still listing tony in 4th and driving on the inside.
kyle larson made a great move to get second. wish he could have gotten 1 more spot. :D
cheered when jj went down also. :2thumbs:
Quote from: JB400 on March 23, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Denny Hamlin out of race with a sinus infection. Sam Hornish is in the 11
he was afraid of getting put in the wall :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: Chargen69 on March 23, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: JB400 on March 23, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Denny Hamlin out of race with a sinus infection. Sam Hornish is in the 11
he was afraid of getting put in the wall :icon_smile_big:
I thought the same thing :2thumbs:
Funny....I always thought the whole idea of racing was to go faster. Maybe I missed something....
NASCAR Reportedly Planning a Reduction in Power for Next Year
NASCAR engines are making in the neighborhood of 850-900 horsepower this season. And with those engines running near historically high levels of power, the sport may be looking to knock everything down a peg, according to a report from FoxSports.com. This should get interesting.
Fox managed to snag an interview with Robin Pemberton, a guy with the impressive-sounding title of NASCAR Vice President of Competition and Racing Development. Sources told Fox that they're thinking of bumping everyone down about 75 to 100 horses, but Pemberton said those kinks are still being worked out. And, they're not making excuses about "race quality" or anything like that, either, as it's more about economics:
"It's as much getting more use out of engines as it is (reducing) horsepower," Pemberton told FOXSports.com. "They kind of feed off of each other. There's no guarantee horsepower may or may not do anything for the quality of racing, but it will allow us to do other things."
Discussions are still in the early stages, Pemberton said, but given the fact that there are so few engine suppliers now, they will need plenty of lead-time to make changes for next year.
Among the options being discussed are reduction in engine displacement and changes to throttle body size.
A higher-horsepower engine not only be more expensive upfront, but might have more reliability issues down the road, adding to overall costs, the thinking goes. By reducing the sheer brutality of the engines, you make the playing feel just a bit more level.
But if you take away 100 horses, you're likely to make a big dent in the speeds that make NASCAR, well, NASCAR. Since they aren't looking to slow everything down to a crawl, aerodynamics and tires will probably have to be tweaked as well to maintain the speeds.
All in all, it probably won't change NASCAR much. You'll still probably have cars making their way around the track at speeds close to 200 MPH, and yes, you'll still have some scary crashes.
Those are all up in the air, though. One thing I do know, is that whenever any type of racing makes a major rule change, a small subset of the fandom always goes absolutely nuts, like you just told them that not only is Santa not real, but he's not gonna wear red, anymore, either. He's gonna wear blue, and he's gonna be different, and he's gonna make you cry. Oh, you'll still get gifts on Christmas and it'll all be wonderful, but Santa's gonna wear blue.
Problem is, they'd have to cut power to every series. They wouldn't want the trucks or Nationwide cars to be faster than the Cup cars.
Richard and Kyle Petty's mother Lynda passed away today... :'(
Rest In Peace Lynda...
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 25, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Richard and Kyle Petty's mother Lynda passed away today... :'(
Rest In Peace Lynda...
Sorry to hear that.
RIP
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 25, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Richard and Kyle Petty's mother Lynda passed away today... :'(
Rest In Peace Lynda...
Sad day it was.. RIP Lynda
well, at least JJ didn't win
Congrats to Kurt Busch :cheers: & Stewart Hass Racing, it's been quite a while, been 83 races for Kurt :2thumbs:....
:cheers: His 25th win too...
the Petty cars ran good today :cheers:
I bet Kurt had lots of people cheering for him with Johnson the one in second :2thumbs:
I'll cheer for anyone other than the 24 or 48......well, Lagano and BK are not high on my driver list either
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 30, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
the Petty cars ran good today :cheers:
I bet Kurt had lots of people cheering for him with Johnson the one in second :2thumbs:
No doubt. I hate Kurt Busch, but I sure didn't want Jimmie to win either.
Thanks to the cable company, I missed the whole thing :flame:
the truck race afterwards was good also.....especially the last 50 laps or so
yes, both races were very good. I didn't fall asleep :lol:
Any race that Johnson doesn't win is a good race............... :D
Quote from: wingcar on March 31, 2014, 09:13:14 AM
Any race that Johnson doesn't win is a good race............... :D
:iagree:
He's at it again!!! :scared: :scared: :scared:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/potential-engine-changes-consideration-phase-195000802--nascar.html
Brian wants to cut horsepower on the cars now. ::)
I don't have a problem with it really. Remember, back in the day, most cars never hit 500hp. And the racing was just as good and just as fast.
Quote from: JB400 on April 01, 2014, 11:27:01 PM
He's at it again!!! :scared: :scared: :scared:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/potential-engine-changes-consideration-phase-195000802--nascar.html
Brian wants to cut horsepower on the cars now. ::)
Not sure what good it will do, the big $$$ multiple car teams, will still be worlds ahead of the lower supported & none multiple car, multimillion 10's of Millions of dollars endorsement teams, like Hendrick's & the likes all has...
Maybe all teams of more than one car get a throttle plate.
The more cars you have the smaller the plate hole.
If you have 'satellite" teams, even smaller yet! :2thumbs:
pouring rain at Texas today.....it's gonna be a long day..probably won't get to racing until later..at least they got lights here
Hope this is not a trend for the rest of the season.....we have had more rain delays and race cancellations this year than I can remember
Yeah, I agree. I think every track but Cali and Vegas had rain
4 hours later...still rain delay.....will be broadcast on Fox Sports 1 if they run tonight...if not, it will be on Fox tomorrow...
update..race cancelled for today (Sunday)....coverage will be on Fox channel, 12-noon EST
Well, so far, todays race is very interesting. At least Johnson won't win now :smilielol:
Sucks for Jr. and Harveck though :brickwall:
someone that lives in my house hasnt found the channel yet to start recording it. :brickwall: :brickwall: never depend on the female persuasion. :brickwall: :brickwall:
what did i miss???? im stuck at work and she is ..,...... oh well. :brickwall: :brickwall:
Jr, misjudged the second part of the dogleg around lap 15, got into the muddy dirt, and it folded the front of his car under the engine, and he shot straight across the track into the wall in turn 1, and caught fire. Johnson was behind him, and got all kinds of car parts in the windshield caving it in a bit. Plus something hit the lower left of Johnson's car tearing that up. Right now, J.J is 3 laps down, but Gorden is leading at 157 laps. Harvek blew his engine a few laps later.
:2thumbs:
Logano won... :P :brickwall:
yea....better than Gordon or JJ though..but not by much in my book
i agree. :rotz:
At least Ferds are winning. Much better than the Chevy and Toyota dominance like last year
what a fun finish for the nationwide race. chase elliot in the napa car for the win. sadler did a heck of a job to hold onto that car.
yea...that was a fun race to watch
I agree, good race. :2thumbs:
That Apple didn't fall far from the tree..
Awesome to see a new fave in the NNS but if he keeps this up people will want to rush him to cup.
race coverage starts here at 5:00 central time. :2thumbs:
they just fired the engines for night race,,, bye for now off to see the crashes..lattttter. :D
Congrats to Harvick :2thumbs: Best car definitely won tonight. Too bad for Kurt though.
I'm just happy J.J. didn't win. :2thumbs:
or Gordon, Lagano, Dillon, BK, maybe a few others....kinda disappointed in Carl Edwards this year...
is there a race today???????what time,please????????????thanks have a good egg day,,happy easter ya alls.DJ :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :popcrn: :cheers: :2thumbs:
No race today. Easter sunday :cheers: Next race is at Richmond next Saturday
Looks like BK wants to shake up the schedule
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/brad-keselowski-proposes-dramatic-overhaul-of-nascar-schedule-145656428.html
(http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-04-24/618efad0-cbbb-11e3-8b99-8d4d7a376031_e0424bk.jpg)
Racing on both Wednesday and Sunday in one week :scratchchin:
I like the idea of an occasional mid-week race, but i think logistics would be a nightmare the way they are laid out in that schedule (back to back to back to back). I mean, some of them make sense (Loudon/Dover), but Dover and Texas?
And even at those that are near each other...think the drivers and crew would last if they had to race on Sunday, show up at the next track on Monday, qualify on Tuesday, race on Wednesday, and then be ready to qualify at the next one on Friday...and then start the process over for 4 straight weeks?
For the Wednesday race, they could run it like they do Nationwide. Run practice on Tues, and qualifying in the morning, race in the afternoon or at night.
Pretty good race tonight, at least the last 50 laps were good. :2thumbs: Logano scored another one.
Looks like Ambrose scored a hit on Mears. Penalty maybe? :scratchchin:
Next wreck is at Talledega. :popcrn:
Oh, there will be a few fines I bet :yesnod:
And yeah, lot of good racing the last 30 laps. It was fun to watch, although I hate Logano :P
cant stand the whiner lagano. wish he would have been involved in the bumper car episode as well.
I'm happy....................Johnson didn't win....that's all that mattered.... :D
Quote from: wingcar on April 28, 2014, 09:35:15 AM
I'm happy....................Johnson didn't win....that's all that mattered.... :D
or Gordon.....the "punch" at the end was pretty good also...If this racing thing fails for Ambrose, he has another option now
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :2thumbs:
Let the fines fly...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-penalizes-ambrose-mears-rir-214429463--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-penalizes-ambrose-mears-rir-214429463--nascar.html)
Hide the Jet Dryers!!!
Montoya returns :faint:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/juan-pablo-montoya-picks-two-125300095--nascar.html
In other news: Doge comes to NASCAR !
http://jalopnik.com/the-dogecoin-nascar-ford-looks-incredible-1568615720 (http://jalopnik.com/the-dogecoin-nascar-ford-looks-incredible-1568615720)
Quote from: JB400 on April 30, 2014, 09:58:26 AM
Hide the Jet Dryers!!!
Montoya returns :faint:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/juan-pablo-montoya-picks-two-125300095--nascar.html
I miss Juan - Never a dull moment with him on the track. :lol:
I like how the big wrecks happen while we're away at commercial :icon_smile_angry:
Race number ten finished and Johnson failed again to win.....Dream Season (so far).....priceless :D
Quote from: wingcar on May 04, 2014, 04:07:26 PM
Race number ten finished and Johnson failed again to win.....Dream Season (so far).....priceless :D
:2thumbs: :lol: I agree totally. He was even in 2 wrecks :lol:
Well crap....Gordun won...now we gotta listen to little nasal boy saying he's in the chase.....one more lap and Harvick would have gotten him
Oh boy!!! Whose excited about Gordon winning, not to mention DP finishing up front with a top 10 finish? :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :rofl: :nana:
Of the Hendrick drivers, I'd rather see Kayne or Gordon win it than the other 2
At least J.J. or Logano didn't win again :eek2:
Quote from: A383Wing on May 10, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
Well crap....Gordun won...now we gotta listen to little nasal boy saying he's in the chase.....one more lap and Harvick would have gotten him
probably more like 100 feet
as far as im concerned, if a hendrick car wins, its a bad day.
now to talk about another subject...... after the teams trying to change the participants in the "race for the chase" laid down "and or" spun out to change the finishing order in the race, nascar said that each driver had to race to the end trying to better his position...........
so.........how do they make a rule like that, and then watch their poster child (dale jr.)lay down in a race admitting that he dropped to the back to save his car for another race because it was too crowded at the front. he even admitted that in an interview later, then said he would have tried driving up through there if he could do it all over after his fans gave him so much crap.
now im not saying what he did was right or wrong, all im saying is..... did he or did he not break nascars rule from last year?
i understand that this is a week old subject, just wanted some clarity.
Yes, Jr. broke the 100% rule. Will he penalized? Not likely.
What a sorry ass political soap opera. I don't know, I probably shouldn't say anything but it seems really goofy to me. Run what ya brung and bring a lot. :shruggy:
Johnson again fails to win a race..............The "Dream Season" continues...... :2thumbs:
im loving it too. him and chad are even fighting on the radio. this is becoming the dream year. :yesnod:
Another Petty family loss
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/12/patricia-petty-wife-of-maurice-and-sister-in-law-of-richard-died-on-sunday/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
That sucks :'(
I was at Kansas Speedway, yeah too bad Gordon won....third time there :brickwall: Weather barley missed us, it was a nice night after all.
Cool pictures :2thumbs:
:cheers: :2thumbs:
Great pictures.....thanks :2thumbs:
Is there a race this weekend??? ???
Day an time please?? caught last Sat race just flipping channels.. Thanks DJ :2thumbs:
Charlotte the next two weekends:
Sprint Showdown 7 PM ET Friday night
All Star Race, 9PM ET Saturday night
The World 600 is next Saturday 5/26 at 7 PM ET
yes what he said
truck race tonight
I do not like this how they got the Sprint showdown on a different night. I didn't even know they split it into 2 night until I accidently heard them talking about it on the radio :rotz:
Kurt just wrecked his Indy car http://news.yahoo.com/kurt-busch-crashes-during-indy-500-practice-175950906--spt.html
Bill Elliot, Wendall Scott, Joe Weatherly, Rex White, and Fred Lorenzen inducted into the Hall of Fame today
Next Race, the 600 Sunday night
the race isnt showing up on fox sports :shruggy:
The 600 is on your local regular Fox channel starting at 4:30 pm cst. on Sunday :cheers:
thanks. :2thumbs:
Busch race today on ABC in a few hours
The 6 returns!!! :woohoo: This time with Trevor Bayne behind the wheel
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bayne-drive-full-time-cup-124500284--nascar.html
Is the JJ show back??
I wanted Matt to win it. :brickwall:
well, it's only one win...and he's usually pretty good at Charlotte, just means he's in the chase now....
hope he falters the rest of the season
i wonder if i missed something? :scratchchin: on a restart late in the race, as the green flag falls, newman pulls into the pits. i never heard what happened. he made it back out and maintained his position through the rest of the race. did he have a flat or what????
ok, here is my deal, if it was jimmy or jeffy, or junior,or the highest positioned female in nascar, tony, the bush bros. harvick,(you get my drift) it would have been discussed over and over, questioned as to why it would happen to the worlds favorite drivers, blah blah blah. and then look for someone to blame it on. replay the start 15 times to see why the driver would have to exit at such a crucial time.
but it wasnt. it was nobody. so lets dont discuss it. :brickwall:
Doesn't matter. JJ and Danica were the only drivers out there. DW announced just those two drivers and wanted to talk to them at the start of the race. Pretty bad that the other 41 drivers out there doesn't get mentioned before the green flag falls.
how could fox totally miss the fact that the waltrip bros are so heavily disliked? are they missing something? or do we not complain loud enough?
Well the Dream Season has come to an end, along with Johnson's losing.... :'(
Oh well, as long as someone can keep him from taking home the Championship, it can still be a Dream Season............................. :yesnod:
How could JJ be in the pits when the caution came out and is in the lead when the race restarted? Maybe I missed something.
He entered pit road right before the caution came out and closed the pits. He continued his pit stop, and beat Kenseth to the timing line. Dumb luck? :scratchchin:
when there is a caution, and the reason is debris on the track which happens to be a water bottle that was tossed out of a window by a driver, should the driver be reprimanded for causing an unscheduled stop in the action? with the cameras at every angle, i believe it wouldnt be hard to see who threw it out there. a driver, or a whole team could easily be punished for attempting to change the possible results of the race. whats the difference between that and spinning a car? :shruggy:
Yes if na$car can prove it, not the tv guys :brickwall:
I think most debris cautions are bogus anyway :nana: so it really doesn't matter and drivers have been manipulating the outcome of races for years, from roll bar padding to intentionally wrecking the other guy.
truck race tomorrow afternoon, if anyone cares
Quote from: A383Wing on May 29, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
truck race tomorrow afternoon, if anyone cares
I have to work all day which will be around 12 hours or so :P
Does Biffle and Edwards stay with Roush Fenway, or do they go? :popcrn:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2082063-carl-edwards-greg-biffle-and-the-uncertain-future-of-roush-fenway-racing
Grinning from ear to ear,when kyle bushy hit the wall an left the track with 1 steering able wheel ,,, best of day so far??? HA HA HO
well, my comment from last wek confirmed.
harvick has to pit on a restart. questions came out. replays of the restart. questions of how could it have happened? possibly a piece of concrete they ask. show shots of the wheel. discuss how the pit crew rewound the tape of the pit stop. blah blah blah.
all of this because its a favorite. :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
That's why there are so many empty seat at the races. no one likes the same damn guys winning every week.
got that right. :yesnod:
Quote from: JB400 on June 01, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
Does Biffle and Edwards stay with Roush Fenway, or do they go? :popcrn:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2082063-carl-edwards-greg-biffle-and-the-uncertain-future-of-roush-fenway-racing
I think Biffle leaves and Edwards stays because ford has so much invested in him. With all the spencer money going to Edwards rough can't afford Biffle also...
Edwards stays...............how else are they going to feed the pit crew? (Subway)
Very empty grandstands.
Viewership also dropping...
How many more years before Nascar folds up the tent?? :shruggy:
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
Very empty grandstands.
Viewership also dropping...
How many more years before Nascar folds up the tent?? :shruggy:
LOTS of empty seats and whole grandstands tarped over in the corners. I watched about 15 minutes of the race, the most notable being the last five laps.
I bet Dover eventually consolidates and eliminates a bunch of grandstands like Daytona and Talladega.
Quote from: Aero426 on June 02, 2014, 03:30:41 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
Very empty grandstands.
Viewership also dropping...
How many more years before Nascar folds up the tent?? :shruggy:
LOTS of empty seats and whole grandstands tarped over in the corners. I watched about 15 minutes of the race, the most notable being the last five laps.
I bet Dover eventually consolidates and eliminates a bunch of grandstands like Daytona and Talladega.
I see that coming too :yesnod:
they are talking about moving the races like the super bowl does. have the end of the year race bid on. :shruggy:
I guess during pre race this went down about Biffle going to Waltrips team...
UPDATE: Old DW may have just spilled the beans on where Carl Edwards and Greg Biffle will wind up next season. And if Darrell Waltrip's body language and hinting is any indication, neither driver will be back with Roush Fenway Racing. During Sunday's prerace show on FOX, anchor Chris Myers asked Waltrip if the two free agents are leaving RFR, and if so, where will their new home in 2015 be. The first part of Waltrip's reply wasn't totally surprising. But then Waltrip dropped an obvious bombshell. Reaching over to put his right hand on the shoulder of younger brother Michael, who just happens to own Michael Waltrip Racing, DW's body language and then verbiage said it all - and left Michael staring straight ahead almost in shock. "And Greg Biffle will go to some two-car team that maybe one time had a third car," Darrell Waltrip said. In an attempt to quickly try and cover up what his older brother just said - and obviously deflect that scenario (probably because MWR isn't ready to make a potential announcement yet) - Michael gave his take on it. "Uhhhhhh, I think Carl goes and Greg stays," Michael Waltrip said. "I think the Biff stays at Roush, he's going to be the veteran, the anchor to that rookie lineup for the young guys that are going to race at Roush. So, he goes, the other cat stays."(NBC Sports)
if Greg or Carl go to MWR, I think that's a big mistake and will hurt their careers
It wouldn't surprise me if Penske opens up his 3rd team full time. He still owns the 12. With the way Brad and Joey are running on a more consistent basis, I can easily see Carl or Greg going over there.
MWR is a drop down from what they're currently getting at Roush.
I guess attendance was really low last Sunday :rotz:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pits-selfies-cant-fix-attendance-202721082--nascar.html
As the article points out. The tracks get a share of the T.V. revenue so they are less inclined to worry about actual attendance anymore. I see them doing what Bruton Smith has done here in Charlotte. They over built the grand stands to a point where they would accomidate 180,000 people. They could never fill that many seats even in the hey day. So they accepted the realities of the new day and started tearing grand stands down. They started with Turn 1 and 2. They are now gone. There is a rumor that the back stretch stands are next. Also they have painted all the seats different colors so that even from pit road you would swear that there are more people in the stands than are there. It is all about the T.V. audience now. I know what you are going to say "That is shrinking too". That is another story.
As the public tends to have a short memory, the removal of grandstands will quickly remove negative talk in the media about "all those empty seats". Because of the TV money, the tracks are still eating steak.
Quote from: JB400 on June 03, 2014, 03:30:10 PM
I guess attendance was really low last Sunday :rotz:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pits-selfies-cant-fix-attendance-202721082--nascar.html
The supplied link tells it!
keslowski ran pretty well, but it was another dominate day for hendrick cars. they all ran up front most of the day except for danica.
about the only excitement was during the pit stops, and the restarts.
kasey hit the wall pretty hard. hope hes ok. carl got caught up in that one.
Was a boring race, I slept through most of it
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 08, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
Was a boring race, I slept through most of it
yup...me too
Very boring... I tried to watch it but just sporadically jumped back to it between other shows.
i recorded it and blew through it pretty quick. :yesnod:
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 08, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
Was a boring race, I slept through most of it
Listening to Kyle Petty would put anyone to sleep.
Didn't watch it has I had important things to attend to...however, I was very glad Jimmie didn't win.....not that I am a big Jr, fan. But my thinking has always been.....anyone but Jimmie, please.
Quote from: JB400 on June 08, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 08, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
Was a boring race, I slept through most of it
Listening to Kyle Petty would put anyone to sleep.
I'll take Kyle over DW any day.
X2
:iagree: i was so sick of dw. glad he is done for the year.
I think TNT has the best crew out there. I love Kyle and Wally :yesnod:
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 09, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
:iagree: i was so sick of dw. glad he is done for the year.
Oh, come on now....we know you are going to miss hearing:
"Boogity, boogity, boogity, let's go racing boys and girls!"
:D
no....no I'm not
Junie Dunlavey is no longer with us :angel:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/6/10/nascar-sprint-cup-series-junie-donlavey-obituary.html
Quote from: JB400 on June 11, 2014, 03:26:15 AM
Junie Dunlavey is no longer with us :angel:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/6/10/nascar-sprint-cup-series-junie-donlavey-obituary.html
And we all took a step forward....
Petty to Toyota?
During an appearance at a function for Dollar General on Monday, seven-time Sprint Cup champion Richard Petty addressed reports that his Richard Petty Motorsports team was considering a move from Ford to Toyota.
A Motorsport.com story from earlier this month reported that Petty met with Toyota representatives during the Toyota Owners 400 weekend at Richmond International Raceway back in April.
Additionally, the site reported over the weekend that Petty visited Ford headquarters in Michigan last week.
In that same story, Ford Racing director Jamie Allison stated that the team's contract with the Blue Oval was not set to expire at the end of this season.
"Obviously, these manufacturer/team contracts are not for public negotiations," Allison said to writer Lee Spencer.
"We're at a good place with the King...We are going through and understanding could be available and what their interests are."
Meanwhile, during his appearance yesterday at DG headquarters in Goodlettsville, Tennessee, Petty took a big-picture approach to the subject.
"We've got to look at our team and look at our circumstances," Petty said according to Mike Organ of The Tennessean. "We've got to look and say, 'Okay, what's going to be the best for us right now, what's going to the best for us two years down the road, what's going to be the best for us five years down the road?'"
Petty added: "We're out looking and seeing what all the factories have got laid out for their future to see if we can fit into any of that."
RPM currently fields two Fords for drivers Marcos Ambrose and Aric Almirola in the Sprint Cup series, and each of them have had some solid performances in the opening quarter of the season.
The team has been in the Ford camp since the 2009 season.
:shruggy:
:brickwall: :P
nascar truck race tonight in madison il. (st. louis) at gateway and i will be there. :yesnod:
getting ready to head out for the track in a couple minutes. race starts at 7:30 central time. :2thumbs:
just wow, what a race, had a blast. went with 41husk (allen). awesome seats. and an exciting finish. :2thumbs:
Glad to hear it :2thumbs: Who won? :popcrn:
bubba wallace jr. #54.
Cup race just started..2 laps, and 2 wrecks....
well, shit....I can tell this season has gone into the toilet now
sucked :rotz:
That sucking sound you heard was Jimmie Johnson passing the field on his way to another win....and, it looked as if it was going to be such a good race...oh well.
(I wonder if "I love Lucy" is aired on Sunday...... ::))
Looks like Edwards will flip for M&M's...
M&M's to move to Edwards if he goes to Gibbs? Rumors persist that Carl Edwards' sponsor at Joe Gibbs Racing will be none other than the M&Ms/Mars brand. While even the Edwards to JGR piece of the puzzle has yet to be confirmed, the most recent speculation has the current Roush Fenway Racing driver with America's most popular confection as his livery for 2015. Over the last few weeks, representatives from Gibbs have been actively recruiting throughout the garage for a fourth team but both Edwards and Gibbs remain mum on the driver's status. Where would that leave Kyle Busch? Sources say Monster, a long-time supporter of Busch, would step up to the primary sponsorship level. Still, it's hard to fathom an athlete as health-conscious as Edwards could embrace a brand with so little nutritional value. When Motorsport.com asked the driver two weeks ago about representing a company that he would not personally support off the track, the response was similar to Edwards' previous "no comment" replies regarding next year.(Motorsport)
UPDATE: hearing that the deal between Edwards and Joe Gibbs Racing is done, no word when it will be announced.(6-19-2014)
I seem to remember a story years ago when Richard Petty stated that he would never drive a car with a beer sponsorship on the side. He stated that his father would have objected to it and mother wouldn't have accepted it as being a good thing either. If I remember correctly, the whole subject came up when Kyle was offered a ride that was sponsored by a beer company and the King was asked what he thought about it.....
As for Carl and M&Ms......if it means he will get a ride in which he can actually win once more.....he'll go. He'll just spend more time in the gym to make up for any M&M's he might have to eat for the sponsor. And, who knows, perhaps the people from M&Ms will make a "low-cal" version for him....
If that article is correct, which will be the most likely scenario: Edwards gets the new team with Kyle's sponsors and a new number, or will Kyle get the new number and keep his old team and Edwards takes over the 18 with new crew?
Carl isn't getting Kyle's M&M's
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/22/nascar-kyle-busch-keeping-mms-sponsorship-for-2015/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
looks like we wont know ant thing officially until September
UPDATE 3: A clause in his [Edwards] contract prohibits him from discussing his plans until September, just as Matt Kenseth did not announce where he was going in 2013 until long after the team said he was not returning. If Roush handles Edwards' departure the same way it did Kenseth's, an announcement about his future with the team could be imminent. As speculation mounted Kenseth had signed with JGR during the Sonoma race weekend, Roush officially confirmed his departure two days after the race.(Associated Press)(6-21-2014)
UPDATE 4: from FoxSport's Tom Jensen's Twitter about some recent Joe Gibbs Racing rumors:
1) JD Gibbs just told me it will be at least September before Joe Gibbs Racing announces if it will run a fourth car.
2) JD Gibbs also confirmed that M&Ms will be back with Kyle Busch on the #18 next year (2015).(6-22-2014)
Say goodbye to Home Depot at the end of the year
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/23/report-home-depot-leaving-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-at-seasons-end/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Quote from: JB400 on June 23, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
Say goodbye to Home Depot at the end of the year
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/23/report-home-depot-leaving-nascar-joe-gibbs-racing-at-seasons-end/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
You could see this coming with their reduced involvement in recent years.
ESPN has also announced the cancellation of their NASCAR Now daily show.
As little buzz has been going on on the Cup side, the Saturday Nationwide race from Road America was excellent. It rained so the cars all went on wet weather tires. The track began to dry as the race came towards the end. Alex Tagliani, the leader in the Penske car ran out of gas a few laps from the end, but got pushed into the pits, took fuel and slicks and came from the back to finish 2nd. The rest up front were still on wets looking for water. Brendan Gaughn and Chase Elliott slugged it out with Gaughn getting his first Nationwide win. Another straightaway, and Tagliani would have caught him. Very entertaining race.
I would have to agree. Nationwide race was entertaining although they spent almost as much time under caution as they did racing due to waiting on the weather.
Yes, a lot of fast forward time. Caution laps at Road America also take a long time because of the four mile track length.
It was an ok race weekend I had hoped for more the new tire sure messed with a lot of people.
This is interesting
Kyle Busch makes odd comments about M&M's: File it under things that make you go "hmm..." but there was an interesting exchange over the #18 Joe Gibbs Racing radio frequency after Carl Edwards won the Toyota/SaveMart 350 on Sunday. While Kyle Busch was driving into the garage after race he asked, "Is the M&Ms contract signed yet?" To which an unidentified voice replies, "No". Crew chief Dave Rogers then adds, "But you fought hard all day. Sorry we didn't bring you a better race car. You drove all day. Bring it back to us." While we're not sure what to make of the comments, the timing seems curious, particularly since J.D. Gibbs told reporters this weekend that M&Ms will remain with Busch through 2015.(Motorsport)(6-24-2014) from JAYSKI.COM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/video/obama-johnson-x-2018-michael-202030680.html
Jimmy Johnson crashed out of the race in that 16 car wreck :2thumbs: :nana: :smilielol: :boogie: :punkrocka: :woohoo:
THANK YOU Marcos Ambrose :cheers: :2thumbs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syr-iWxJK8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syr-iWxJK8s)
Lap 98, "The big one" happened :o Kyle Busch upside-down and over half the field is in this one :P About 20 cars in this one! Only 13 lead lap cars were not involved in this crash, and only 6 cars today have not been in crashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUhad78Orzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUhad78Orzc)
Aric Almirola in the 43 car wins! First time since 1999 the 43 car gets into victory lane and 30 years to the day Richard Petty won his 200th race. Also the first time since 1981 a car actually owned by Richard Petty has won. And they are in the chase now too! :cheers: :2thumbs: :woohoo:
I missed the Coke Zero 400 at Daytona this week as I had too many events going on since this was the Fourth of July weekend, but it sounded as if it was a very interesting race...early wrecks, rain, etc. I was very happy to hear that Aric Almirola put the number 43 in victory circle. It was good to see the number 43 and the King winners once more at Daytona. The victory was just that much sweeter knowing all the personal challenges the Petty family has gone through recently with the loss of several family members. And, Jimmie Johnson being taken out early in the race was a bonus! At least now the 43 team has a shot at the Chase and a possibly another Championship...even if that possibility is a long shot....but then you never know.
Two weeks in a row Jimmy crashed OUT :smilielol: :smilielol:
Doesn't really matter what he does now. What matters is if/ when he wrecks out during a Chase event. Hopefully it happens before he gets to Homestead.
A lot of hubbub about the wreck between Logano and Sheperd. http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/15/nascar-shepherdlogano-contact-creates-more-questions-than-answers/
Is Sheperd too old to drive Cup, or does Logano need to learn to respect his elders? :popcrn:
Logano needs to have respect for everyone...little punk-ass brat he is
Not a Logano fan at all. But he has a reason to be upset taken out by a car many laps down.
The Logano/Shepherd "incident/accident" has a lot of people talking about a mandatory "retirement" age for NASCAR drivers which personally I don't think is a good thing. While it's true that many drivers stay on driving past their "glory days" such as Petty, Waltrip, and others...I feel it's their chose, as long as they can do so safely. I am sure it's hard to give up the driver's seat when it's the only thing you know and have done it for most of your life. It's also sad in a way to see championship winning drivers unable to post any wins or even top tens, as they once did back in the day. But even they understand that sooner or later you just need to step aside and call it a day. For Shepherd that day apparently hasn't come yet...and there is nothing wrong with that...as long as he can keep his speed up and keep his car under control. From what I understand he was having issues with the handling of his car most of the day. Perhaps he needs to reevaluate his judgment in not bringing the car into the pits for work that it needed. And, if the team couldn't work and make the car more controllable...he should have brought it back to the garage. NASCAR has no problem with him being out there, so it's not a driver problem so much as it was a car issue...maybe. Either way, Joey should have taken the speed different into account as he approached Morgan's car and perhaps given him a bit more room.....and Morgan should have stayed out of the racing groove if he couldn't keep up. There is no easy answer...even for the Monday "quarterback" sitting in their easy chair.......
If it had been the other way around and Joey had taken old Morgan out, Joey would still be the bad guy.
Living in ct to (where joey is from) he has a rep as a spoiled rich kid and always has,even when coming up though the north series up here not a lot of people cared for him much.
my main memory of joey is after a wreck he was being interviewed and he said " why is newman racing so hard? we all should just drive around till the end of the race, then drive hard to win."
i thought that you were supposed to try to better your position every lap of the race. :shruggy:
thought he was an idiot ever since.
just for your info here....Truck race tomorrow night, 7/23, at Eldora dirt track....9pm eastern time, Fox Sports 1 channel (the old Speed channel)
Thanks for the heads up :cheers: Have to look for it when it becomes a rerun.
that makes it tonight. sweet!!!! :2thumbs:
Thanks for the heads up. I would of missed it. :2thumbs: :cheers:
watching it now! good stuff.. dirt track racing is the best.
wow... The stands at Indy are only half full :P
Looks like Edwards is moving on. I wonder if Roush will bring up another driver, or just not run the 99 :popcrn:
Whats a ticket price these days for a NASCAR race?
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 27, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
wow... The stands at Indy are only half full :P
I wonder how long it'll be before races go unsponsored?
Quote from: Ghoste on July 27, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
Whats a ticket price these days for a NASCAR race?
Minimum price for today's race is $49. Maximum price is $159. Parking, camping, and pit passes are extra.
http://secure.brickyard.com/Tickets/SuperWeekend.aspx
Is that typical for most races?
I noticed the empty seats as well, and was a little surprised. Can get expensive i go to NH every fall with the cost of the hotel food gas ,etc it can cost quite a bit. This year to cut cost we are cutting a day out our self Used to go up Friday and back on Mon this year heading up Sat.
Quote from: keith88 on July 27, 2014, 04:56:38 PM
I noticed the empty seats as well, and was a little surprised. Can get expensive i go to NH every fall with the cost of the hotel food gas ,etc it can cost quite a bit. This year to cut cost we are cutting a day out our self Used to go up Friday and back on Mon this year heading up Sat.
Not a Sunday afternoon take the whole family event really anymore is it? Of course no major sport is these days.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/07/26/brickyard-400-indianapolis-motor-speedway-attendance-racing/13213107/
I tried that link Justin but I couldn't seem to find the attendance story.
i read through it and basically it was talking about the attendance being down. the average attendance, blah blah blah. tracks taking seats out.
i would not prefer to be at a race where you can only see a small part of the race. i like the smaller tracks where i can see all the action from my seat. :shruggy:
I have yet to attend a NASCAR race so can't say which I prefer but I think I'd like to go to MIS just once to see a superspeedway one.
You really need to attend at least one race to get a feel for what it's all about. TV really doesn't do racing justice. The "speed" just doesn't translate very well to the small screen. (On the other hand at least you do get to see most of the action. I remember going to Indy a few years back...all the cars were nothing but a burr, in fact the only car I could identify going by was Danica's due to the green paint). I can't say I have or would attend a lot of races as it is much easier to kick back in the easy chair with a drink in hand that didn't cost a small fortune...not to mention the bathroom situration. But, you need to experience the smell of rubber, and the noise (which can become painful without ear plugs)....at least once.
Its strange in a way that I haven't yet. I've been to the drags lotsa times, seen boat races, aircraft racing, F1, rally cars, hill climbs, truck and tractor pulls, monster trucks, bikes both flat track and Superbike, road racing, dirt track roundy round, ice racing, snowmobiles, even bicycles but never a superspeedway race. And I'm only 2 hours or so from MIS. :icon_smile_blackeye:
right you are about seeing the action first hand. it is awesome with the cars flying by. we are trying to plan a road trip coming up to travel somewhere to watch a race. just have to figure out which track i want to visit.
Mark Martin is back at Roush, this time as a driver development coach
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mark-martin-tweets-hes-back-140500450--nascar.html
Quote from: JB400 on July 31, 2014, 11:18:45 AM
Mark Martin is back at Roush, this time as a driver development coach
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mark-martin-tweets-hes-back-140500450--nascar.html
:2thumbs: good job for him :yesnod:
I think so as well. Stenhouse needs to quick screwing around with Danica in back of the pack, and start moving forward. I'm sure both him and Bayne can learn a thing or two from Martin.
:hah: Johnson's having another bad day today
hope Johnson can continue his non-success in the chase. :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 03, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
hope Johnson can continue his non-success in the chase. :2thumbs:
:yesnod: :2thumbs: :smilielol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 03, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 03, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
hope Johnson can continue his non-success in the chase. :2thumbs:
:yesnod: :2thumbs: :smilielol:
I agree.................................big time!
Quote from: wingcar on July 29, 2014, 08:41:29 AM
You really need to attend at least one race to get a feel for what it's all about. TV really doesn't do racing justice. The "speed" just doesn't translate very well to the small screen. (On the other hand at least you do get to see most of the action. I remember going to Indy a few years back...all the cars were nothing but a burr, in fact the only car I could identify going by was Danica's due to the green paint). I can't say I have or would attend a lot of races as it is much easier to kick back in the easy chair with a drink in hand that didn't cost a small fortune...not to mention the bathroom situration. But, you need to experience the smell of rubber, and the noise (which can become painful without ear plugs)....at least once.
So true.
I live by TMS and go at least one of the two races there each Year.
You can even feel the cars rumbling.
JR just lost the National Guard
https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/why-the-national-guard-severed-its-funding-for-dale-earnhardt-jr--in-nascar-142342444.html
At least that 32 million a year of my tax dollars I can see every week. :brickwall:
Wasteful spending perhaps... It's crazy money
Ambrose wins at Watkins Glen in Nationwide
woo-hoo, go Ambrose, we are starting to plan a trip to the states next year for the
July Daytona race, we just hope he is still racing Nascars next year and not coming back to Australia to race v8 supercars.
Tony Stewart clips a guy with his Sprint car :rotz: The driver didn't survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7TlxpPb_8
Article here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-reportedly-involved-in-incident-under-investigation-at-new-york-dirt-track-042049206.html
Quote from: JB400 on August 10, 2014, 02:24:54 AM
Tony Stewart clips a guy with his Sprint car :rotz: The driver didn't survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7TlxpPb_8
Article here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-reportedly-involved-in-incident-under-investigation-at-new-york-dirt-track-042049206.html
"A tragic accident took place last night during a sprint car race in which Tony Stewart was participating. Tony was unhurt, but a fellow competitor lost his life. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. We're still attempting to sort through all the details and we appreciate your understanding during this difficult time."
Tony guns it, the back end gets out from under him, hitting the driver - who was standing on the track, yelling at Tony for wrecking him the previous lap... The 'official' quote from Tony's PR certainly downplays it.
This will be interesting ... :rotz:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 10, 2014, 08:10:28 AM
This will be interesting ... :rotz:
Wow, I just saw it on the news.
And He say's He will race Today.
Tony will NOT race today (just out). I dont blame him for the accident the guy had to be hard to see on that dimly lit speedway and the car in front of him with the other driver wearing black. My prays go out to everyone involved.
I hope the cops are on this....which usually isn't the case in racing. It would be so easy for the Stewart crew to quickly load the racecar on a trailer and head out...with physical evidence all over it. Why hasn't anyone seized the GoPro camera yet? No word on that story either.
Tony Stewart's hot headedness has been proven time after time (remember helmet throwing)... In the case of yesterday's race he was the "experienced" pro driver and temper and rage should not have become an issue (who knows if it was/is?). Anyway he should also move down the track as fast as possible after the incident. This is the typical instinct for most drivers, so not sure what happened there. :shruggy:
Regarding the younger driver, rule #1 on a racetrack if your car is wrecked and NOT ON FIRE is to STAY IN YOUR CAR unless instructed by track officials. You don't charge down 2 lanes to confront another driver ESPECIALLY one with a temper like Tony Stewart.
Stewart will have a lot of explaining to do, if the GoPro device shows he intended to menace the kid in some way. By the way, this shit is getting out of control and professionalism seems to have gone out the window. :Twocents: :Twocents:
I watched the video and I don't see him "sitting the car sideways" the only time I see the car move is AFTER he clips the driver that walked into his path and the front of the car moves right and the back of the car appears to move left, a sprint car is going to physically move if you hit a person in it as they are so light, It would have kicked out right if he had gunned it! The kid is responsible 100% he left his only protection he had on that track the second he walked down the track away from his car into the midst of traffic to throw a tantrum, IMO this kind of behavior starts at the top I have always thought it was childish when a driver got out of the car on the track to either throw their helmet, hans device, or the finger and "showboat" I believe it should be a MANDATORY DNF if your driver exits the car while on the track under any circumstances other than a red flag. :Twocents:
Can't help but be reminded of......how many times I have seen replays of Tony throwing his helmet at Matt......then a hand gesture to the cheers of the crowd......as advertising for Nascar.
So.....can't really blame the kid 100%.....for doing what the "pros" do.
Agree though......a DNF for an on track tantrum. Let's do it right, add a one race suspension, like Kyle Bush received. Not a Kyle fan, but fair is fair.
But then.....you couldn't use the footage for advertising.......
Newman took a hard lick. Michael McDowell did too :o
I like the way ryan says what he thinks no matter what. :cheers: then rusty comes in to say how much it would cost to fix the walls :brickwall: :brickwall:
Allmendinger wins!!!!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 10, 2014, 04:25:50 PM
I like the way ryan says what he thinks no matter what. :cheers: then rusty comes in to say how much it would cost to fix the walls :brickwall: :brickwall:
Rusty is a turd....my opinion....I like Ryan's attitude.....no fear
Quote from: Indygenerallee on August 10, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
I watched the video and I don't see him "sitting the car sideways" the only time I see the car move is AFTER he clips the driver that walked into his path and the front of the car moves right and the back of the car appears to move left, a sprint car is going to physically move if you hit a person in it as they are so light, It would have kicked out right if he had gunned it! The kid is responsible 100% he left his only protection he had on that track the second he walked down the track away from his car into the midst of traffic to throw a tantrum, IMO this kind of behavior starts at the top I have always thought it was childish when a driver got out of the car on the track to either throw their helmet, hans device, or the finger and "showboat" I believe it should be a MANDATORY DNF if your driver exits the car while on the track under any circumstances other than a red flag. :Twocents:
The kid got the ultimate "DNF"... :Twocents:
The police cleared Stewart after looking into it
He said he wasn't and did not race today
I was surprised he was in a commercial during today's race (Mobil 1 oil maybe?)
Terrible thing happened to both of them and thier families
Never get out of your race car unless its on fire
Support your local dirt track
Drive fast take chances and the inside when you can
Tony Stewart will not face criminal charges right now after a Saturday night incident in which Stewart's car struck and killed 20-year-old Kevin Ward Jr. during a sprint car race at Canandaigua (N.Y.) Motorsports Park.
In a news conference shortly after 3 p.m. ET Sunday, Ontario County (N.Y.) Sheriff Phillip C. Povero said, "At this moment there are no facts or evidence that would support a criminal charge or criminal intent."
Povero said Stewart was "visibly shaken" and had been cooperative in the investigation. Authorities were asking spectators and others to turn over any video they recorded of the crash.
"This is right now being investigated as an on-track crash, and I don't want to infer that there are criminal charges pending," Povero said. "When the investigation is completed, we will sit down with the district attorney and review it. But I want to make it very clear: There are no criminal charges pending at this time."
In the incident Saturday night, Stewart and Ward crashed, and under caution Ward got out of his car and walked toward Stewart's car, gesturing at the three-time NASCAR champion. As Stewart's car approached Ward, Stewart's right-rear wheel hit Ward, who was thrown into the air and died as a result of the contact.
Stewart was replaced in today's Cheez-It 355 at the Glen by veteran Regan Smith.
The sheriff's office is examining videos from fans who were in attendance and also is awaiting formal autopsy results.
Key words are: "at this time."
Tony is a professional, and anyone that thinks even for a minute that Tony
tried to hit Kevin doesn't know what they are talking about. He knows and
understands how dangerous that "game" would be and he loves racing to much
to play that "game". He's going to have to live with the outcome of this
accident for the rest of his life. I am sure that deep down he will
continue to relive and second guess what happened for a very long time (if
not forever). It's easy for an "arm chair" quarterback to state their
opinion on what happened, but the bottom-line is after all the opinions
and facts are played out.....it was simply an unfortunate racing accident,
and nothing more...no foul play, no evil intentions....just a racing
accident....had this accident involved anyother driver than "Hot Headed"
Tony Stewart it wouldn't have received so much attention.
Perhaps, all the racing organizations will stop the dangerous act of
drivers showing their frustration on the track to other drivers they feel
"wrecked" them. Playing chicken, or even just stepping towards a speeding
race car is not very smart and the practice needs to stop before someone
else is killed....
My thoughts and prays go out to both Kevin's family for their loss and to Tony....
(*Just my two cents..)
:iagree:
The lesson to be learned here is to never bring a pointed finger to a NASCAR fight.
Interesting link to legal questions.
http://www.si.com/racing/2014/08/10/tony-stewart-kevin-ward-legal-ramifications
I'll also predict no criminal charges will be filed.
It will also be handled "out of court" since Stuart is viewed as someone with deep pockets....But he'll have to pay an enormous amount of money.
Unfortunately even though he [might not] have done anything wrong, this could be the end of his professional Nascar racing career.
Quote from: wingcar on August 11, 2014, 08:16:52 AM
Tony is a professional, and anyone that thinks even for a minute that Tony
tried to hit Kevin doesn't know what they are talking about. He knows and
understands how dangerous that "game" would be and he loves racing to much
to play that "game". He's going to have to live with the outcome of this
accident for the rest of his life. I am sure that deep down he will
continue to relive and second guess what happened for a very long time (if
not forever). It's easy for an "arm chair" quarterback to state their
opinion on what happened, but the bottom-line is after all the opinions
and facts are played out.....it was simply an unfortunate racing accident,
and nothing more...no foul play, no evil intentions....just a racing
accident....had this accident involved anyother driver than "Hot Headed"
Tony Stewart it wouldn't have received so much attention.
Perhaps, all the racing organizations will stop the dangerous act of
drivers showing their frustration on the track to other drivers they feel
"wrecked" them. Playing chicken, or even just stepping towards a speeding
race car is not very smart and the practice needs to stop before someone
else is killed....
My thoughts and prays go out to both Kevin's family for their loss and to Tony....
(*Just my two cents..)
:iagree: Very well said! :2thumbs: :yesnod:
Quote from: wingcar on August 11, 2014, 08:16:52 AM
Tony is a professional, and anyone that thinks even for a minute that Tony
tried to hit Kevin doesn't know what they are talking about. He knows and
understands how dangerous that "game" would be and he loves racing to much
to play that "game". He's going to have to live with the outcome of this
accident for the rest of his life. I am sure that deep down he will
continue to relive and second guess what happened for a very long time (if
not forever). It's easy for an "arm chair" quarterback to state their
opinion on what happened, but the bottom-line is after all the opinions
and facts are played out.....it was simply an unfortunate racing accident,
and nothing more...no foul play, no evil intentions....just a racing
accident....had this accident involved anyother driver than "Hot Headed"
Tony Stewart it wouldn't have received so much attention.
Perhaps, all the racing organizations will stop the dangerous act of
drivers showing their frustration on the track to other drivers they feel
"wrecked" them. Playing chicken, or even just stepping towards a speeding
race car is not very smart and the practice needs to stop before someone
else is killed....
My thoughts and prays go out to both Kevin's family for their loss and to Tony....
(*Just my two cents..)
Bingo, hit the nail on the head,
I
couldn't have said it any better... :2thumbs:
RIP Mr. Ward
Gordon's new sponsor: 3M
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/3m-switching-sponsorship-jeff-gordon-150900526--nascar.html
I still haven't seen this question asked.
Do they not run helmet radios on dirt tracks'? I would think it wouldn't take much for Tony to use his NASCAR gear for safety reasons? Or does he feel it's a competitive edge?
This was his 1st dirt race since he broke his leg last year while dirt trackin'. He loved the sport. He's been racing with other drivers' of various skill levels for a long time now. Imo, he should think about giving it up. That's 2 bad incidents in a row. :shruggy:
Harvick fined for the bean bags in his car. I thought having to pit to remove them would have been penalty enough.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-issues-penalty-no-4-134500003--nascar.html
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on August 12, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
I still haven't seen this question asked.
Do they not run helmet radios on dirt tracks'? I would think it wouldn't take much for Tony to use his NASCAR gear for safety reasons? Or does he feel it's a competitive edge?
This was his 1st dirt race since he broke his leg last year while dirt trackin'. He loved the sport. He's been racing with other drivers' of various skill levels for a long time now. Imo, he should think about giving it up. That's 2 bad incidents in a row. :shruggy:
I believe it has been said that race control had communication to drivers. For instance, "yellow is out, car in turn 2"
This is a very good video. The corresponding article is also interesting from the Father's perspective. His statements seem to foreshadow that some serious litigation is coming.... :popcrn:
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/11347015/tony-stewart-actions-questioned-father-killed-driver-kevin-ward-jr
Quote from: TUFCAT on August 13, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
This is a very good video. The corresponding article is also interesting from the Father's perspective. His statements seem to foreshadow that some serious litigation is coming.... :popcrn:
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/11347015/tony-stewart-actions-questioned-father-killed-driver-kevin-ward-jr
:yesnod: Tony has deep pockets.....
A civil suit would not surprise me, even if no legal charges are ever filed.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 13, 2014, 03:56:35 PM
A civil suit would not surprise me, even if no legal charges are ever filed.
Yes indeed...and if you need a reason see post above. :icon_smile_wink: :smash:
Can you say "settled out of court"? I knew you could.
Quotewhen someone grabs hold of sideboard of your wing as you go by , then slips an falls off . I think that pretty much done in you Tony haters who want have him convicted of murder. It's there between 11 - 14 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1XvhrPu64Co
So what if one of the other drivers would have hit Ward? Non Story
All I saw was a millenial having a temper tantrum and,,,,, he paid a high price for it.
If NASCAR/etc had taken it upon themselves to start enforcing a tighter "stay in your car" rule WITHOUT this death having happened, wouldn't we be the first ones bitching about it? It's all part of the Disney-fication of racing, real drivers from the old days wouldn't be able to handle all the corporate bullshit, etc.
We wouldn't be thinking about the safety issue very hard if this hadn't happened. Even if NASCAR had claimed they were making a tighter rule "for safety" we would have brushed off the idea that it was a serious safety problem: "What idiot is actually going to waltz out into a field of speeding racecars under green conditions and get HIT? Get real. That doesn't happen. NASCAR is just enforcing the rule now for their image."
Anyone, whether they be driver, crew member, etc. that fail to understand that motorsports is and always will be a dangerous sport shouldn't be involved. Anytime you strap on a racecar, no matter the level of the series, you are taking on a certain about of risk. And, if you really sit down and think about it...we all do this every day of our lives. It all comes down to a tradeoff between Risk and Reward. Am I willing to take on the risk involved in the activity I want to participant in for a given reward? Each of us do this hundreds of times during a given day without giving it a second thought. But, when you do, you are basing that decision on Risk and Reward. Your decision to turn left at a busy intersection perhaps being a good example. UPS feels the danger level is high enough to warrant a policy that its drivers make only right hand turns whenever possible. What dangers do you accept at work each day? We all have a level of risk we are willing to take in our pursuit of happiness. Some take it to a higher level than others....which is why we all don't swim with sharks or jump out of perfectly good airplanes. I personally fly for fun, but I have friends that will not even sit in an airplane. I accept the risk associated with flying because I receive a certain level of reward. You can't regulate safety to a level where you are 100% safe. But you can chose what Risk vs. Reward you are willing to accept. :Twocents:
Just announced, Jeff Burton filling in for Stewart this weekend at Michigan
QuoteYou can't regulate safety to a level where you are 100% safe
Good luck convincing America of this today.
you had to see this one coming a mile away...........................
NASCAR bans drivers from confronting cars in aftermath of Stewart/Ward incident
NASCAR drivers will no longer be able to get out of their cars to angrily confront another driver in a moving vehicle.
NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton made the announcement Friday morning. The rule is in effect immediately, but no specific penalty was announced for violation of the rule.
"During an event if a race car is involved in an on-track incident, and/or is stopped on or near the racing surface, and unable to continue, to make forward progress," Pemberton said, reading from the new rule. "Unless extenuating circumstances or conditions exist with the race car, example on fire, smoke in the cockpit, etc, the driver should take the following steps: shut off all electrical power and if the driver is uninjured, lower the window net. Do not loosen, disconnect or remove any driver personal safety equipment until directed to do so by safety personnel or a NASCAR official. After being directed to exit the race car, the driver should proceed to the ambulance or other vehicle or as otherwise directed by safety personnel or a NASCAR official."
"At no time should a driver or crew member or members approach any portion of the racing surface or apron. At no time should a driver, crew member or members approach another moving vehicle. All vehicles not involved in the incident or that are able to continue afterward should slow down to a cautious speed as outlined in [NASCAR rule] 10.4: yellow flag rules."
The rule is in response to the incident with Tony Stewart and Kevin Ward at Canandaigua (N.Y.) Motorsports Park Saturday night. After Ward hit the wall, he unstrapped himself from the car and walked down the track to confront Stewart. He was hit by Stewart's car and killed.
"It was one of those that was obviously, everybody paid attention to and [the rule] is on the heels of that," Pemberton said.
The rule will be applied on a case-by-case basis and drivers will likely have to show significant intent of a confrontation to be penalized.
Stewart is not racing at Michigan this weekend. Jeff Burton is driving in his place. The investigation into the incident is still ongoing and Stewart is not currently facing any criminal charges. Ward's funeral was Thursday.
After being involved in an incident, NASCAR drivers have not been prohibited from exiting their cars – angrily or not – before safety workers arrive. Many times if a driver is unhurt and even without circumstances like a fire, smoke or other factors, drivers quickly unbuckle their safety equipment, and begin the process of removing themselves from the vehicle before safety equipment arrives. That no longer is allowed.
And yes, this rule does eliminate the possibility of a helmet-throwing confrontation at the risk of severe penalties. Brad Keselowski admitted Tuesday that those type of confrontations had become a big part of the sport.
"I would say it has become that way, there's no doubt about that," Keselowski said. "I think if you look at the highlight reels that are shown, you think of Bristol, you think of Tony, other drivers at Bristol that have been known for it, Danica, whatnot. It certainly has become common, accepted practice."
Pemberton said Friday that safety trumped everything though it may take some time for fans to realize that the possibility of confrontation no longer exists. However, with what happened on Saturday night, our view of on-track confrontations had already been significantly altered.
"This rule is really put in place for the safety of all our competitors and it's safety first right now," Pemberton said.
Following the death of Dale Earnhardt in 2001, NASCAR made closed-face helmets and head and neck restraints mandatory for all drivers. (Earnhardt was wearing an open-faced helmet and no head and neck restraint.) After ARCA driver Eric Martin was killed in a practice crash at Charlotte in 2002 in an incident that could have been prevented with spotters stationed on top of the grandstands, NASCAR made it mandatory that spotters were perched up high in spotters stands for all race-weekend sessions
I avoided watching the video at first. From the second hand descriptions of the incident that I kept hearing, it sounded like Stewart went all Frankenstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein_%28Death_Race%29) on the kid and ran him down on purpose.
Then I watched it, almost inadvertently, on SportsCenter. It really could go either way, IMHO. Either Stewart tried to scare the kid and grossly miscalculated, or he simply couldn't see him til right before impact and, as reflexes kicked in to avoid him, made the situation worse by trying to avoid him or get past him.
Unless some sort of "Smoking Gun" (no pun intended) evidence like another video comes out, only Stewart really knows what he was trying to do and there likely isn't enough to hang a criminal charge on him. There will definitely be a civil action, probably for wrongful death. I mean, God forbid someone doesn't get paid (f---ng lawyers!) because of this tragedy.
My guess is that it will settle out of court. Stewart will want to avoid the expense and circus-like publicity of a trial, and Ward's family (if they have a good lawyer) won't let it go to trial either because NY is a "pure comparative fault" state when it comes to negligence: which means that if the jury says Ward was 75% at fault, his family can only get 25% of whatever amount of damages they are trying to get. Gonna be hard to convince a jury that Ward didn't bear a pretty considerable level of fault on this.
The rules changing for driver safety is understandable as the cars get faster. It happens bit by bit and accident by incident.
I see these races as two battles at the same time. 1 the cars and 2 the drivers.
For ultimate driver safety they could drive these cars from a remote control station but who would come to that kind of race? The danger and the drama are what brings the fans.
In a bull fight look at all the safety gear the matador has on. If he wore the Michelin guy suit it could be fun but very different. :lol: And not many would show up.
Getting out of a car during a race to fight man to car seems over the top and without a red cape that guy is doomed.
QuoteThen I watched it, almost inadvertently, on SportsCenter. It really could go either way, IMHO. Either Stewart tried to scare the kid and grossly miscalculated, or he simply couldn't see him til right before impact and, as reflexes kicked in to avoid him, made the situation worse by trying to avoid him or get past him.
I can't understand how the entire public is watching the video and thinking Stewart gunned the engine
before he hit the guy. Stewart's engine never audibly revved until the kid was already getting caught up in the car.
There are a bunch of possible scenarios for what happened there, but all of them would seem to have Stewart innocent of the fatality. The worst possible theory I can picture is that Stewart intended to spray the kid with dirt, but acted AFTER the kid had already gotten himself fatally caught up in Stewart's car on his own.
The way the kid was reaching out & going after Stewart's car, I could imagine Stewart reflexively goosing the throttle to get his car PAST the kid and out of his reach. The kid looked ready to grab a rollbar, come aboard, and start hitting Stewart (harnessed into place).
And besides all that - whose motor really revved in that video? It could be Stewart's car but I wouldn't bet my house on it. That sound seems too close-up for a car that was dozens of yards across the track at the time. The whole video shot is zoomed in.
Were they under caution? They talked about him revving and or accelerating under a caution flag early on like it was the smoking gun. But now no one is mentioning it? Maybe it's implied? :shruggy:
Quote from: stripedelete on August 15, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
Were they under caution? They talked about him revving and or accelerating under a caution flag early on like it was the smoking gun. But now no one is mentioning it? Maybe it's implied? :shruggy:
Stewart did not touch the other car before the it went into the wall causing the caution flag. The first time Stewart saw the situation confronting him was when he came back around the next lap under the yellow. And it was over in a matter of seconds. Because he sustained no damage, it's hard to argue that Stewart had a reason to be upset with the kid.
Quote from: Aero426 on August 16, 2014, 12:08:09 AM
Quote from: stripedelete on August 15, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
Were they under caution? They talked about him revving and or accelerating under a caution flag early on like it was the smoking gun. But now no one is mentioning it? Maybe it's implied? :shruggy:
Stewart did not touch the other car before the it went into the wall causing the caution flag. The first time Stewart saw the situation confronting him was when he came back around the next lap under the yellow. And it was over in a matter of seconds. Because he sustained no damage, it's hard to argue that Stewart had a reason to be upset with the kid.
So, they were under the caution when he hit Ward. (Not that it changes my opinion, just haven't heard it mentioned since the story broke)
and the word "CAUTION" means..... :shruggy:
Quote from: odcics2 on August 16, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
and the word "CAUTION" means..... :shruggy:
EXACTLY. Don't get out of your car!
Confirmed: Edwards leaves Ford for '15, moves to Joe Gibbs http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carl-edwards-joins-joe-gibbs-142739917.html
Stewart returns to racing :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tony-stewart-return-atlanta-204500282--nascar.html
Tony's back...best of luck to him as it will be hard....but he had to come out sooner or later and face the public. Like many many I really didn't except it this soon, but all things considered this is really a good time as the Chase hasn't started and so his return at this time will not take away from that....
MW is on Dancing with the Stars :hah:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/happy-hour--waltrip--kahne--stewart--xfinity-and-small-fires-194005784.html
Ok the 16 car field is set, what's your predictions on the first 4 out of the chase in 3 weeks?
I'm thinking the 47' the 16 the 31 and the 43.
My final 4 at the last race are the 24 the 88 the 2 and the 22 or the 48 :eek2:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on September 07, 2014, 05:36:50 AM
Ok the 16 car field is set, what's your predictions on the first 4 out of the chase in 3 weeks?
I'm thinking the 47' the 16 the 31 and the 43.
My final 4 at the last race are the 24 the 88 the 2 and the 22 or the 48 :eek2:
My feeling exactly!
I have to agree :rotz:
I disagree with the 31. without a win he was in the top 10 all year. out of 16 cars, that would keep him in the top half of the field. don't think he has the equipment to make a difference, but will be around 8-10 in the end. just my feelings.
My list for the first 4 eliminations: 16, 47, 11, 43
2nd round eliminations: 31, 5, 18, 99
3rd round: 41, 20, 88, 48
Final 4: 2, 22, 24, 4
Ambrose is out of the 9 at the end of the year
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/marcos-ambrose-will-not-return-to-richard-petty-motorsports-in-2015-154538367.html
It's probably for the better. Petty would do better as a 1 car team.
That sucks :-\
Not even the flagman is safe at the race track :o
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/18/flagman-struck-killed-by-race-truck-at-florida-short-track/
Racing is never "safe", thats why many small tracks even have waivers for spectators. Its also part of why we want to see it.
Sad that they feel the need to add "there was no foul play in the incident at the track". Is this a by-product of the Stewart/Ward incident (accident) that will be added to every story on a racing death for now on.......
"It's all about risk and award...how much risk are you willing to accept for a preceded award".......
Youngest ever winner in a Nascar major event
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/cole-custer-wins-truck-series-race--becomes-youngest-nascar-winner-ever-211307562.html
New rules for next year:
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/engine-change-testing-ban-highlight-185410422.html
An unfortunate accident at a RW Racing Experience :angel:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/man-dies-crash-kentucky-speedway-195603613.html
Tony Stewart cleared :cheers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/tony-stewart-not-charged-by-grand-jury-in-death-of-kevin-ward-jr-190047656.html
A hot head and a pot head don't mix. The kid was both.
Good news from the DA in that Tony Stewart will not be charged. Of course the Ward family can still take Tony to count (Remember the OJ case), but with the latest news that Kevin Ward had drugs in his system....I would be very surprised.
It would seem as if Ward made two mistakes that night; taking drugs then getting into a race car....then getting out of the race car during a race with drugs in his system.
For those that think marijuana is not that big a deal or harmful, perhaps you might take this as a lesson....it's one the Ward family will have to live with forever.
Bottomline: A lot of people had their lives changed forever that night due to bad judgment. All we can do now is learn from this lesson and try and see that it doesn't happen again.
Nascar truck race tonight at 10:00 Eastern time, 7:00 Pacific time.....night race at Las Vegas track :2thumbs:
If I can stay awake through the whole thing, lol
lots of jogging for position sunday. kasey did a good job of staying alive. my man ryan did well to stay around. here we go again. all even now. :cheers:
Perfect day so far....the 48 in the wall :2thumbs:
and now Jr. in the wall....
When the 48 car wrecked, I was like :smilielol: :woohoo:
I missed it :brickwall:
penalty for 24 also.....best race all year
48 wreck good ...88 tire blows BAD not good!
yep, a good day of racing. not a logano fan, but glad to see the hendrick boys faltering. :2thumbs:
if joey wins the championship, then i quit watching, well, nevermind, i already quit
:brickwall:
I'm ready for Larson to win his first.
i agree, he seems like a really nice kid, and fast :2thumbs:
An aerial view of North Wilkesboro as it is today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyfn-_AW1h4#t=150
Sad.. That was a good track to watch races at.
Hornish in the 9 next year, just needs sponsorship
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/sam-hornish-to-drive-richard-petty-motorsports-no--9-in-2015-152555670.html
Hornish finally has the one thing he's been seeking for most of the last four seasons in the NASCAR world: career stability.
It's not every day that a race car driver has an opportunity to hit the reset button on his career and get another chance like the kind Hornish is getting at RPM.
That's why this opportunity makes so much sense for both Hornish and RPM.
Plus, it also puts Sam in a very unique class, having driven for three of the biggest names in motorsports: Petty, Penske and Gibbs
Quote from: wingcar on October 09, 2014, 08:07:04 AM
Hornish finally has the one thing he's been seeking for most of the last four seasons in the NASCAR world: career stability.
It's not every day that a race car driver has an opportunity to hit the reset button on his career and get another chance like the kind Hornish is getting at RPM.
That's why this opportunity makes so much sense for both Hornish and RPM.
Plus, it also puts Sam in a very unique class, having driven for three of the biggest names in motorsports: Petty, Penske and Gibbs
:iagree:
I think Hornish is a very good Nationwide series driver, but I do not have high expectations for him in Cup based on the past and the last time he stepped in for Allmendinger. Exactly why? I don't know. He is kind of like Elliott Sadler; both are excellent in that series. Both are great with sponsors and will not make a mistake from a PR standpoint. I hope he does well. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Interesting race tonight. BK made a few friends tonight :lol: Hopefully, there will be no penalties, but I'm sure there will be. I was glad to see Larson and McMurray back up front again. Too bad Larson messed his car up rim riding. Don't know what Ganassi is doing with his cars, but both are competitive. :2thumbs:
Congrats to Harvick. All the Stewart Haas cars were running good tonight except Stewart, until Logano introduced Danica to the wall.
The real story of the night: Johnson and Jr. Both are contenders for next week at Talladega, but both need to win it to progress to the next round. I hope neither one does get in.
Next week will get interesting.
Loved it when Tony put his car in reverse and backed full throttle into BK's car on pit road.... :2thumbs:
that was good with tony. I think brad just lost it. he wanted to fight with everybody. :yesnod:
Was one of the better fist fights I seen in Nascar in a few years too between BK and Kenseth.
I want to see Danica fight.
Quote from: Ghoste on October 12, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
I want to see Danica fight.
Betting she could whip his little punk-ass
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Sadly, some "news" (and I use that term very loosely) stations felt the need to air footage of the Stewart/Ward incident (accident) along with showing Stewart backing into Brad's car. I guess they felt it would improve their ratings if not their legitimacy. There was no reason what so ever to do that. It was just the Tony of old going out, which was actually kind of nice to see, although if I were Tony I would have cooled it a bit all things considered.
Brad was out of control and let his emotions get the best of him...but he didn't act like a "professional" race car driver and needs to have a sit down with Roger Penske (which I am sure they did). And, I am sure NASCAR will hand down some sort of penalty on Brad and the number two car. Even Johnson was feeling the heat and got into with Chad on the radio...I hope he doesn't win Talladega....had enough of him and the 48 car.
Talladega is going to be a good race with all the Chase drivers that need to win....it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out when the checker flag drops.
I predict a lot of dented sheet metal and emotions.....
The ABC clip aired on Good Morning America with Stewart as the lead character in the story approaches journalistic malpractice. Not only did they spin the story angle, but they added "crash" sound effects to the clip of Stewart backing in the Kes' car. The talking head network news commentary was idiotic.
I'm more pissed about not seeing the 1st 25 laps because of football. :flame: Espn /ABC doesn't deserve to carry nascar good thing they are not next year!! :RantExplode: :icon_smile_angry: :Twocents:
Quote from: keith88 on October 13, 2014, 04:59:40 PM
I'm more pissed about not seeing the 1st 25 laps because of football. :flame: Espn /ABC doesn't deserve to carry nascar good thing they are not next year!! :RantExplode: :icon_smile_angry: :Twocents:
THAT pissed me off too. I
HATE collage football :RantExplode:
Keselowski and Stewart fined after Charlotte
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/keselowski-stewart-fined-charlotte-204218838--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/keselowski-stewart-fined-charlotte-204218838--nascar.html)
BK WINS TALLEDEGA!!!!
I'm really, really, really glad Johnson didn't get it :2thumbs:
Yeah, thanks to Lagano running Harvick into the wall so he couldn't catch Brad. They should kick Brad out of the Chase like they kicked Truex Jr out. Lagano and Keslowski are just punks.
Anything's possible. He still has to go through inspection.
Hendrick only has Gordon left to win this championship for him.
I have a new driver to hate...Keselowski little bastard!
GO BRAD! :notworthy:
Good to see Brad win! Go #2!!
Good to see everyone agreeing...... :angel:
I'm just kinda bummed about.......coulda been a pair of Dodge's going for a championship........
From what I have read......some dude named Sergio didn't like Dodge racing in Nascar......or racing Vipers for that matter.....
Quote from: General_01 on October 19, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
Lagano and Keslowski are just punks.
:iagree: At least Johnson is done lol. So better BK then the #48 car :yesnod:
Just because brad USE to drive a dodge does not mean you have to like him. After his whacked view of what happen last week dose not help that issue! I lost a lot of respect him in that deal. :slap:
I lost a ton of respect for BK as well after last week. Now I see him like Joey Logano... A punk kid :Twocents:
Feel bad for Junior, don't care about JJ or Kyle.
BK is old school aggressive....I like that (unlike most of the boring sponsor suck-ups) and the last champ in a Mopar.
It think it will come down to Kevin and Brad....with Jeff hovering close.
I for one will really, really miss not having Jimmie Johnson in the hunt for another championship. :D
gordon isnt missing him either
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 20, 2014, 08:21:57 AM
Feel bad for Junior, don't care about JJ or Kyle.
BK is old school aggressive....I like that (unlike most of the boring sponsor suck-ups) and the last champ in a Mopar.
It think it will come down to Kevin and Brad....with Jeff hovering close.
Same here but BK could at least own up to what he did and not lie about it on TV especially when everyone could see it on in the replay!
I'm more of a Penske fan than I am a BK or Logano fan. His team has always had to play 2nd fiddle to Hendrick, Roush, and Childress in Nascar. I also liked Rusty when he was driving for Penske, especially at the short tracks. Penske always seems to pick aggressive drivers. I thought having KB and Allmindinger was a good choice until each driver screwed up pr. wise.
Dodge fan.......not so much a Penske/Brad fan.
So.....agree, lost a bit of respect for Brad.
My problem is with Nascar.......if Brad bumping on pit road is bad.....set a penalty for it and enforce it equally. Brad sure has not been the only one......
Something did happen during the race I never expected......I actually cheered when the 10 took the lead from 48......
Same here but BK could at least own up to what he did and not lie about it on TV especially when everyone could see it on in the replay!
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I believe BK said he wasn't proud about what happened the previous week while in the victory circle. I would have to go back and watch once again. Bottomline, he did address what happened the previous week. And, I am sure he now realizes that it didn't put him in the best light. I am also sure that Mr. Penske had a little sit down with BK after that race.
I am glad BK made it to the next round. The last 20 or so laps were the best of the whole race. It was neat to see Danica take the lead.....and from Johnson no less! Danica's pass of the 48 and BK's passing of Newman on the last lap were the best moves of the day!
As long as a toyota doesn't win! :flame:
rooting for newman all the way. cant deny his constant top 10 finishes are doing the job. he had absolutely no help at the end of the race. tonys crew came up behind him and could have pushed him to the win but they both went side by side and slowed down the outside lines so there was no help on the top.
glad hendrick lost 3 of 4 drivers in the chase. too bad it wasnt a clean sweep.
well that sure messed up my bracket :rofl: I had Jr in the last 4 :flame:
it was cool to see the 10 car take the lead away and hold it for several laps it would have been a cool win :drool5:
my new last 4 are the 2,22,24 and the
31....
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Looks like Kurt Busch and Danica will be switching crews after this weekend: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/stewart-haas-racing-switches-teams-of-kurt-busch-and-danica-patrick-144216464.html
It might be a bigger benefit for KB, probably not so much for Danica.
This is the beginning of the good ole "how do we keep KB without losing everybody else on the team"
McMurray is on pole at Martinsville :2thumbs: Logano outside pole.
Johnson out of the race.....I'm happy
Jr. wins...............The world is happy
i am content since newman is still hanging in there. :2thumbs:
I know im really wishing for the stars, the moon, and all the planets, but if ryan could just finish (and im not saying i have to have a championship victory or anything like that) above all the hendrick drivers, and all the stewart/haas drivers (also known as the other hendrick drivers) then my year will be great. :nana:
was i sleeping? i thought jeff hit brad?
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 02, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
was i sleeping? i thought jeff hit brad?
just watched a replay in slow motion, brad moved up a 1/2 line and stayed put, jeff came down on him.
This was the best part of the whole race, the fight in the pits, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bSUYLsVr4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1bSUYLsVr4)
Don't stick up for Brad just because he use to driver a Charger.. He always been a punk kid spoiled Brat just proved it again,MORON. Grad he dont represent the brand any more!!
JMO.......and it has nothing to do with either if Brad is a punk or if he used to drive a Charger.
Agree with Brad on this......if you let a hole open......don't be surprised if someone drives into that hole.
Nascar did mandate drivers go 100%. Seems Brad went 100%.
If Jeff didn't like that.....perhaps he should take it up with Nascar and not depend on 700 Hendricks crewman.
And also JMO.....Brad can be a punk.
No reason to fight after a race....because in the long run, it just makes you look like an asshole who can't handle losing. :Twocents: :Twocents:
Quote from: keith88 on November 02, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
Don't stick up for Brad just because he use to driver a Charger.. He always been a punk kid spoiled Brat just proved it again,MORON. Grad he dont represent the brand any more!!
believe it or not, i aint sticking up for brad because he used to drive a charger. I actually pull for Chevrolet in nascar, even when dodge was there. brad did not wreck jeff, jeff wrecked jeff trying to side draft after he made a POOR decision to restart on the outside again, but this time with no help.
if any driver in brad's position rolled over and lifted at that point in the race when he is being door slammed, he doesnt deserve to be there. jeff was wrong
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 02, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: keith88 on November 02, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
Don't stick up for Brad just because he use to driver a Charger.. He always been a punk kid spoiled Brat just proved it again,MORON. Grad he dont represent the brand any more!!
believe it or not, i aint sticking up for brad because he used to drive a charger. I actually pull for Chevrolet in nascar, even when dodge was there. brad did not wreck jeff, jeff wrecked jeff trying to side draft after he made a POOR decision to restart on the outside again, but this time with no help.
if any driver in brad's position rolled over and lifted at that point in the race when he is being door slammed, he doesnt deserve to be there. jeff was wrong
I agree with everything above! EXCEPT the bowtie reference, Lol!
I know Nascar loves this and will not do anything. They'll likely use it for advertising.
That whole "fight" was a setup. I do not at all believe Jeff would have confronted Brad the way he did without a large number of Hendrick crewman to back him up. Way to many guys involved in this......
So I'm a bit old school......one on one.....go for it. Settle it. Brad and Jeff......no problem. I had no problem with Matt going after Brad a couple of weeks ago. Looked to be more or less even......
But the number of crew that jumped into this?
I don't care what Brad did or did not do.
If Nascar had any integrity at all......they'd be a bunch of crew sitting out the rest of the year.
that is right about the fight. the other thing that triggered it was kevin coming up behind brad and pushing him so that jeff could reach him
I completely agree with what this person commented on the nascar.com website:
"jim ozzie 31 minutes ago
come on people, nascar has always been tuff racing, its suppose to have hot tempers....if you have been watching NASCAR as long as I have, then you can see that is whats costed NASCAR its Viewers and seat sells at tracks. NASCAR is doing what they need to do, they need to let the divers bring excitement back. Brad dne exactly what he needed to do. Jeff opened up a hold, and Brad took advantage, watch it again, Jeff came back down,,,,but Brad was there already. Lets not fool ourselves people, jeff was content to let jimmy win, and points race his way into the next segment. Brad don't get paid to let Hendricks cars beat him. He actually gets paid to BEAT them. So don't hate on Brad for doing his job. It aint like he knew jeff was going to come down. And he sure didn't kow it would cut his tire. Its the Skirt that ALL the teams are pulling out, that cut Jeffs tire. NASCAR has approved it....so. All im saying is, DAMN this is the most EXCITING NASCAR has been in years. GREAT JOB NASCAR. As for Jeff...see what happens when you take your helmet off when you fight..you get punched in the mouth. Be a man. Your Sponsors pay millions pay millions of dollars for you to Give 100 Percent. SHUT UP AND DRIVE!!!"
Quote from: moparnation74 on November 02, 2014, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 02, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: keith88 on November 02, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
Don't stick up for Brad just because he use to driver a Charger.. He always been a punk kid spoiled Brat just proved it again,MORON. Grad he dont represent the brand any more!!
believe it or not, i aint sticking up for brad because he used to drive a charger. I actually pull for Chevrolet in nascar, even when dodge was there. brad did not wreck jeff, jeff wrecked jeff trying to side draft after he made a POOR decision to restart on the outside again, but this time with no help.
if any driver in brad's position rolled over and lifted at that point in the race when he is being door slammed, he doesnt deserve to be there. jeff was wrong
I agree with everything above! EXCEPT the bowtie reference, Lol!
sorry, i am a chevy guy, but i do own a restored 69 charger. :cheers:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 02, 2014, 09:34:54 PM
that is right about the fight. the other thing that triggered it was kevin coming up behind brad and pushing him so that jeff could reach him
Thought that's what I saw......wasn't quite sure.....
Poor Jeffy Crybaby Gordon had to have a Daddy love hug from Papa Hendrick...I thought Jeff was gonna cry for a minute there
Quote from: A383Wing on November 02, 2014, 10:39:13 PM
Poor Jeffy Crybaby Gordon had to have a Daddy love hug from Papa Hendrick...I thought Jeff was gonna cry for a minute there
:smilielol:
I am not a Gordon fan and was on a race team for 4 yrs and there is a code of conduct that the racers have some pay more attentions to it than others and putting your car i a hole that is NOT there is not one of them. If it was just a one driver thing i could see your view but its not its more like every driver But his team mate. He needs to mellow out . SR could have done the same thing with out cutting the tire. If he races like that people will race him like that. Believe me it hurts me to have to take Jeff's side on this one but in this case i have to.
The hole was there and Brad took advantage of Jeff going high.
The root cause of this entire scenario is Jeff's spotter for not saying one word:
"INSIDE"!!!!!!!!!!!
But, you all saw the grandstands - EMPTY! I can't believe I am witnessing the demise of Nascar right in front of my eyes!
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 07:08:17 AM
I am not a Gordon fan and was on a race team for 4 yrs and there is a code of conduct that the racers have some pay more attentions to it than others and putting your car i a hole that is NOT there is not one of them. If it was just a one driver thing i could see your view but its not its more like every driver But his team mate. He needs to mellow out . SR could have done the same thing with out cutting the tire. If he races like that people will race him like that. Believe me it hurts me to have to take Jeff's side on this one but in this case i have to.
the hole was there, and the reason they could do that then without cutting tires all the time, was they werent allowed or able to pull the skirts out to be like knives
also, I have never been on a race team, but a did stay at a holiday inn
as far as "Code of Conduct" does that mean more than winning a race you have to win in order to win a championship? i dont think so. Case nobody knows, this is exactly the drama nascar wanted when they screwed up the points system the first year of the chase, it has just taken them this long to figure out how to pull it off
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 07:08:17 AM
I am not a Gordon fan and was on a race team for 4 yrs and there is a code of conduct that the racers have some pay more attentions to it than others and putting your car i a hole that is NOT there is not one of them. If it was just a one driver thing i could see your view but its not its more like every driver But his team mate. He needs to mellow out . SR could have done the same thing with out cutting the tire. If he races like that people will race him like that. Believe me it hurts me to have to take Jeff's side on this one but in this case i have to.
You are entitled to your own opinion.
But let me ask this......
Do you think the "code" justifies the large number of Hendrick crewman vs the much smaller number of Brad and crew?
Does the "code" justify Harvic pushing Brad to get this melee started and then running so not be involved?
Justify putting camera crew at risk?
Nascar officials?
Do you seriously believe anything Brad did on-track......justifies the above?
Rubbing is racing! If anyone in Brad's position of this race got a "hole" like that, they would have done the same, period! Gordon reacted too late or the spotter was late to inform him. It is racing!
This year's Chase format has changed everything. Now winning means what it should have all along, but hasn't in past years. While some drivers may still be able to advance to Homestead on points alone...it's not a given and most drivers must win to advance. As a result the pressure has been ratcheted up for all drivers to perform at the top of their game, which of course they should have been already. It appears as if some drivers are having a hard time adjusting to the added pressure that the new format has introduced. For the true competitive racer who wants to win and has the desirer and drive to win the new format shouldn't have changed a thing...for those looking to cruise into a Championship the game has changed. Love him or hate him...Brad is doing what he is paid to do....try and win every race. And, just because Jeff has been around since '92...it don't mean racers should race him any different than the other 40+ drivers out there. If the 48 team doesn't have to than why would any other team be expected to? I actually hope he is in the running for another title at Homestead. It appears as if Jeff took Jeff out in Texas.....so Jeff just needs to man up and outrun Brad in Phoenix. And, note I didn't say "take Brad out"... If Jeff's truly the professional he claims to be, he will outperform him, and not with his front bumper.
(*Phoenix will be interesting to say the least)
*Breaking News:
I hear with the new format of the Chase and all the fighting it has caused...NASCAR Officials are planning on installing a boxing ring in what is today the "Winner's Circle" for next year's Chase. That way the drivers can vent their "frustrations" and "opinions" right after the race. Plus, they are thinking about issuing "Bonus Points" to any driver that can "make his point of view" stick....so to speak. :slap:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 03, 2014, 08:34:44 AM
The hole was there and Brad took advantage of Jeff going high.
The root cause of this entire scenario is Jeff's spotter for not saying one word:
"INSIDE"!!!!!!!!!!!
But, you all saw the grandstands - EMPTY! I can't believe I am witnessing the demise of Nascar right in front of my eyes!
I agree. It was a complete racing deal......Besides, more than ever - This is a do or die format. No tomorrow. Racers have to race. Harvick is the biggest dick in all of this. Moral of the story? BK needs to take up boxing during the off season. :lol:
Quote from: wingcar on November 03, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
This year's Chase format has changed everything. Now winning means what it should have all along, but hasn't in past years. While some drivers may still be able to advance to Homestead on points alone...it's not a given and most drivers must win to advance. As a result the pressure has been ratcheted up for all drivers to perform at the top of their game, which of course they should have been already. It appears as if some drivers are having a hard time adjusting to the added pressure that the new format has introduced. For the true competitive racer who wants to win and has the desirer and drive to win the new format shouldn't have changed a thing...for those looking to cruise into a Championship the game has changed. Love him or hate him...Brad is doing what he is paid to do....try and win every race. And, just because Jeff has been around since '92...it don't mean racers should race him any different than the other 40+ drivers out there. If the 48 team doesn't have to than why would any other team be expected to? I actually hope he is in the running for another title at Homestead. It appears as if Jeff took Jeff out in Texas.....so Jeff just needs to man up and outrun Brad in Phoenix. And, note I didn't say "take Brad out"... If Jeff's truly the professional he claims to be, he will outperform him, and not with his front bumper.
(*Phoenix will be interesting to say the least)
Well put.
Outperform him fairly..... :2thumbs:
Show up in the pits backed up by gang of company crewman.......is showing just what a coward you are.
Not really a Richard Childress fan.....but at least he slugged Kyle Bush by himself. Didn't need a gang.......
well, i am not a gordon fan. cant stand the crying. and here it is in a nutshell. crying because someone didnt live by the jeffy code of conduct on the track that since jimmy wont win lets agree that gordon gets to win this year. boo hoo :'( :'(
drive your car jeffy. this sport isnt here to guarantee that a hendrick car has to win the championship.
cant stand logano either, but he did what he had to to keep his hopes alive. :yesnod:
Outside of the gwc finish, how was the race? Did not watch it.
BORING
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 03, 2014, 10:53:55 AM
well, i am not a gordon fan. cant stand the crying. and here it is in a nutshell. crying because someone didnt live by the jeffy code of conduct on the track that since jimmy wont win lets agree that gordon gets to win this year. boo hoo :'( :'(
drive your car jeffy. this sport isnt here to guarantee that a hendrick car has to win the championship.
cant stand logano either, but he did what he had to to keep his hopes alive. :yesnod:
:iagree:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 03, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
BORING
What he said.
Pretty much a JJ show.
Did get a bit interesting during the last few laps....... :yesnod:
Gordon fan here (flame away...I was "one of those people" that got pulled into the sport in the 90's because of him), but I don't think Keselowski did anything wrong. Looked to me like JG came down on him, not the other way around.
On the other hand, its nice to see JG grow into one of the sports elder statesmen and shed the pretty boy / clean cut image a little and thrown down.
Im really waiting to see whats gonna happen if Gordon gets eliminated from Championship weekend and Keselowski gets in. I have a feeling the latter won't make it to the end of the race.
What Gordon did on the restart was to take off and try to get a run off the corner by going off the top down to gain speed Brad knew what he was doing new the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way.. .this is what is pissing off the other drivers not only Hendrick drivers. I can see many in this thread really hate them but there are a lot of other drivers out there that are going to race him the way he is racing the others and he wont be champion again because of it. No one makes out when you try and wreck your way to the lead ask Kyle!
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
What Gordon did on the restart was to take off and try to get a run off the corner by going off the top down to gain speed Brad knew what he was doing new the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way.. .this is what is pissing off the other drivers not only Hendrick drivers. I can see many in this thread really hate them but there are a lot of other drivers out there that are going to race him the way he is racing the others and he wont be champion again because of it. No one makes out when you try and wreck your way to the lead ask Kyle!
Of course Jeff went up to get a run, he was trying to win.
Does that mean you feel no one else should also try to win? Hold back and let Jeff and JJ settle it amongst themselves?
I believe Nascar has rules against this......you know....the 100% rule. Drivers are supposed to go 100%.....not supposed to back off.....and change the outcome of the race.
By those rules, Brad was obligated to fill the hole Jeff left open.
As to your other point.....I don't hate drivers.....particularly Hendricks drivers. On a personal level.... JJ seems a decent guy. Like JR and Kasey. Really liked Newman.....even when he drove for Stewart-Hendricks. Even Danica....she has some talent.....and I don't blame her for the over attention.
Not a fan of Gordon, Stewart, or Harvic.
JMO....you have yours.....I have mine.
I did not watch the "race" and from the looks of the video of the fight I saw on Youtube that whole thing was pathetic, Might as well be watching WWE.....
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
What Gordon did on the restart was to take off and try to get a run off the corner by going off the top down to gain speed Brad knew what he was doing new the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way.. .this is what is pissing off the other drivers not only Hendrick drivers. I can see many in this thread really hate them but there are a lot of other drivers out there that are going to race him the way he is racing the others and he wont be champion again because of it. No one makes out when you try and wreck your way to the lead ask Kyle!
by what you say, any time a guy is taking the corner a little high to try to keep a little more speed on a short track, no one should stick their nose under neath him because they know that once he clears the corner he will want his spot back. i have seen jj and jr put their cars where there is no room. i have seen jeff bump in the corner to move a guy up the track. every guy out there does it. every one that wants to win forces the issue by making the other guys move out of the way. when its one of the "FAVORITES" doing it the announcers get real excited, and its "better not mess with so and so, or How long is he gona let that car sit there before he sends out a message to get out of my way?" well, one of the favorites made a mental error and wanted to blame someone else.
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
What Gordon did on the restart was to take off and try to get a run off the corner by going off the top down to gain speed Brad knew what he was doing new the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way.. .this is what is pissing off the other drivers not only Hendrick drivers. I can see many in this thread really hate them but there are a lot of other drivers out there that are going to race him the way he is racing the others and he wont be champion again because of it. No one makes out when you try and wreck your way to the lead ask Kyle!
by saying "the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way" you just admit there was a hole. All I am saying, that if i had a driver that didnt push it to the limit to win, he'd be fired
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 03, 2014, 01:30:54 PM
Quote from: keith88 on November 03, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
What Gordon did on the restart was to take off and try to get a run off the corner by going off the top down to gain speed Brad knew what he was doing new the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way.. .this is what is pissing off the other drivers not only Hendrick drivers. I can see many in this thread really hate them but there are a lot of other drivers out there that are going to race him the way he is racing the others and he wont be champion again because of it. No one makes out when you try and wreck your way to the lead ask Kyle!
by saying "the hole was not going to be there long enough to use but did it any way" you just admit there was a hole. All I am saying, that if i had a driver that didnt push it to the limit to win, he'd be fired
:2thumbs:
The fighting is low class and is getting predictable.
I'm not a big Brad fan, but he did what he is paid to do. It was a pretty good hole and he went for it.
:cheers:
what happened on the track was racing. wrong is kevin pushing a guy on probation into the reach of somebody who was not on probation
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 03, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
what happened on the track was racing. wrong is kevin pushing a guy on probation into the reach of somebody who was not on probation
Then running.
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 03, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
what happened on the track was racing. wrong is kevin pushing a guy on probation into the reach of somebody who was not on probation
I don't understand Harvick injecting himself into the situation.
from sbnation.com
" 'There was a gap, it closed up,' Keselowski said. 'By the time it closed up, I was committed and I stayed in it. That almost won me the race. It hurt somebody else's day. That's a shame. But the reality is there was a gap.'
What option Keselowski chose was both obvious and correct. And if Gordon were being honest with himself, he would admit to taking the same course of action if in a similar situation. Instead, he chose to place full blame on Keselowski, which while universally popular, also happens to be erroneous."
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Quote from: Chargen69 on November 03, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
what happened on the track was racing. wrong is kevin pushing a guy on probation into the reach of somebody who was not on probation
I don't understand Harvick injecting himself into the situation.
Harvick's comments (http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20141103b): YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY TO (BRAD) KESELOWSKI WHAT WAS THAT?
"I mean if you are going to run into people all the time you are going to have to fight your own fight, so I helped him get into it."makes sense to me... :shruggy:
WWE's Jim Ross calling the brawl :smilielol::
http://deadspin.com/ok-http-www-viddler-com-v-560d4a67-1653853992
All I'm saying is that i dont want to here no complaining when some drives though or over brad in the future Because that will happen. Personally i really dont care! :popcrn:
uh, brad has dealt with that before, ask carl edwards.
if you dont care, why worry about what you hear?
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Hendrick didn't seem too happy with Jeff. :scratchchin:
I'd say he looked a little pissed off. I don't think I ever saw him that way before.
maybe that hug was a front for a quick come to Jesus meeting
Or a front for....."don't worry, the crews are going to take care of it"
Seriously, I doubt Rick would risk that. But, on the other hand, in the past ethic's were not really his strong point.
I'm not really into conspiracy theories, but Harvick's actions hint at a little more then one PO'ed driver and crew.
What would Jeff have done if Brad was Dale Sr. ???? :nana:
To Harvick's credit, he could have spun Brad when passing him but didn't. You could hear him peddling the gas... :Twocents:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 04, 2014, 09:12:05 AM
To Harvick's credit, he could have spun Brad when passing him but didn't. You could hear him peddling the gas... :Twocents:
Also a risk to Harvick at that time......one never knows for sure if the car you spin doesn't bite you before you get by.....
Honestly, I don't know :scratchchin:......is it just a coincidence everyone showed up at Brad's car as they did? There certainly was plenty of time after Jeff showed up beside Brad's car.......
One thing that seems strange......where was Nascar officials? All I can remember seeing was a few of Brad's crew.......they had to see this coming when Jeff showed up. Normally they get between and separate......
One thing that seems certain......the situation was under control.......until Harvick pushed Brad and run. That's a coward move. :yesnod:
Wouldn't hurt my feelings if karma wiped that smug look of his face. :Twocents:
No driver penalties but...
Jeremy Fuller, a crew member with the No. 5 team along with Dwayne Doucette and Jason Ingle, crew members with the No. 24 team, each have been fined $25,000 and suspended from NASCAR through the completion of the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship points races. All three were found to be in violation of:
• Section 12-1: Actions detrimental to stock car racing
• Section 12-4.9: Behavioral penalty – involved in a post-race physical altercation with a driver on pit road
Dean Mozingo, a crew member with the No. 24 team, has been fined $10,000 and suspended from NASCAR through the completion of the next three NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship points races. He was found to be in violation of:
• Section 12-1: Actions detrimental to stock car racing
• Section 12-4.9: Behavioral penalty – involved in a post-race physical altercation with another crew member on pit road
Kenny Francis, crew chief of the No. 5 team, and Alan Gustafson, crew chief of the No. 24 team, have each been fined $50,000 and placed on NASCAR probation through the completion of the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship points races. They were found to be in violation of:
• Section 9-4A: Crew chief assumes responsibility for the actions of his team members
• Section 12-1: Actions detrimental to stock car racing
• Section 12-4.9: Behavioral penalty
"While the intensity and emotions are high as we continue through the final rounds of the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup, the actions that we saw from several crew members Sunday following the race at Texas are unacceptable," said Robin Pemberton, NASCAR senior vice president/competition and racing development. "We reviewed the content that was available to us of the post-race incident along pit road, and identified several crew members who crossed the line with their actions, specifically punching others."
"We therefore have penalized four crew members as well as their crew chiefs, as they ultimately are responsible for members of their team per the NASCAR rulebook," Pemberton continued. "A NASCAR championship is at stake, but we can't allow behavior that crosses the line to go unchecked, particularly when it puts others in harm's way."
Im good with that. After listening to the dirty mo radio report today i agree that brad did not do anything wrong and apologize for my earlier comments. But one thing i will this new format has certainly made it more interesting. :2thumbs:
yes it has. things are heating up. and I'm sure it will continue in the next race. maybe some new villains.
wouldn't want to be the person that takes out a contender. :yesnod:
Anyone know what happened between Brad and Kasey? Haven't been following Nascar that close ......something must have got the 5 crew riled up.
wasn't Kasey..it was the crew, they are all Hendrick owned, so Kasey's crew went to defend Gordon
or everyone wants a piece of Brad & Joey
If I was Gordon I would be pissed at Boyer for bring out the caution. It cost him the win again...
If it wasn't for that caution the 2 wouldn't have been in a position to cut his tire.
I'm i crazy ???
Quote from: A383Wing on November 04, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
wasn't Kasey..it was the crew, they are all Hendrick owned, so Kasey's crew went to defend Gordon
or everyone wants a piece of Brad & Joey
Perhaps the plot is thickening. Didn't know of any particular problem between Brad and Kasey......
As for everyone wanting a piece of Brad......seems a little on track nudge would be easier to hide....... :scratchchin:
Just seems odd, officials seem to not be looking.....a lotta Hendricks crew show up....
Nascar wanted the next 2 races to be interesting.....think they got it.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 04, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
If I was Gordon I would be pissed at Boyer for bring out the caution. It cost him the win again...
If it wasn't for that caution the 2 wouldn't have been in a position to cut his tire.
I'm i crazy ???
u are not crazy, maybe he knew who was leading, maybe he didnt, but wouldnt surprise me if he did it on purpose.
these guys have very creative ways of payback
The crew people take it in the shorts. Privately, NASCAR is high fiving over the whole deal. Someone out there has calculated the value of the media exposure gained.
Well, Denny Hamlin stated that he doesn't think most drivers in the garage respect Brad Keselowski because Brad doesn't show any remorse for his aggressive driving style. Interesting comment on his part but you know what...I doubt Brad's feeling are hurt much as he gets paid for winning races not friends. And, show me a driver that hasn't "moved" a fellow driver in order to take a position and I'll show you a driver that shouldn't be in the series. You have to have the "drive" to win if you intend to win. The name of the game is winning...period. There is only ONE winner at each race and 40+ also rans. Brad wants to win the championship this year, as does everyone of the other Chase contenders. Hamlin also said, "It's tough to win a championship if nobody likes you. That is going to be a very, very tough task." Sorry Hamlin but as long as the other drivers don't intentionally try to take you out....it's not any harder than it would be otherwise. Brad has shown he can win with or without help. And, he is not afraid of "moving" a person to do it. While I don't care for intentionally wrecking of another driver, the use of a bumper on someone is not a new idea. And, one of the sport's biggest stars, one Dale Earnhardt Sr. was noted for "moving" more than a few drivers out of his way.
So are today's drivers more "sensitive" or do they have "convenient memories". Most of today's driver's would never make it back in the day when "rubbing was racing" meant exactly that. Hamlin went on to say, "You're just looking for someone to say, 'Man, I'm sorry I ruined your day. I screwed up. I apologize,'" Hamlin said. "When that doesn't get said, then it immediately lights a fire in your stomach that he doesn't have any remorse. He's just like, 'Oh well, it's your problem.' "That just lights a fire in your inside. Especially when you just had a bad day and your season could have rested on that. That really set things off. If Brad would have talked to Jeff, and said, 'Man, I was going for a hole, it was my only chance, I'm really sorry it cut your tire.' Instead, it was, 'Oh well, sorry buddy. You left a hole.' If he did that to me, I would have had the same reaction as Jeff. No question." Is Hamlin a cry baby or what...he needs to grow up, pull up his fireproof drapers and be a man.
He also said, "If you ask me do you want a championship trophy or do you want the respect of your peers, I will take the respect from my peers because that trophy, they can't put in my casket," Hamlin said. "What's the fun of a NASCAR (championship) party that nobody shows up to?" Maybe Hamlin needs to win a championship before he truly understands what auto racing is all about...Brad can and will make friends "After" he retires. And, Brad will be polishing more trophies in retirement than Hamlin ever will.
Was Keselowski overly aggressive? I'll leave it to others to judge, but I will say one thing...if the moved had worked and he won the race Brad would have been a superhero. And, everyone would have been talking about the great move he made.
Message for Gordon and all the other drivers out there...drive like you want to win or go home. This year's format has made winning more important than ever and "everyone" is more aggressive or haven't you noticed?
Perhaps it's the "you owe me" attitude of today's drivers that makes me long for the "good old days" when drivers were men...like Richard, David, Cale, etc.....(and perhaps that is one reason many no longer follow the sport as they once did). I want to watch 43 "men" racing...not 43 "girlie boys" with overly sensitive feelings. You get well paid to put on a show for the fans..."Behind the wheel" not in the pits after the race.
*I now return my soapbox and return you to your regularly scheduled programming. :Twocents:
Nascar needs to stop the fender skirt issue, there would be a few less tires cut and the rubbing wouldnt be so inpactful. would probably take somebody cutting a tire on one and hurting somebody else before they do though
Perhaps it's the "you owe me" attitude of today's drivers that makes me long for the "good old days" when drivers were men...like Richard, David, Cale, etc.....(and perhaps that is one reason many no longer follow the sport as they once did). I want to watch 43 "men" racing...not 43 "girlie boys" with overly sensitive feelings. You get well paid to put on a show for the fans..."Behind the wheel" not in the pits after the race.
:2thumbs: except, 42 "girlie boys" and 1 "macho girl" :smilielol:
This new format seems to have identified the aggressive drivers'.
I was shocked Gordon got so upset. I think if it had been anyone but BK it wouldn't have been such an issue.
I used to like Harvick as I thought he was old school but the shove from behind screams "girlee". I mean, if you're gonna cheapshot push someone at least get in their face right away. Imo, KH is at fault for the melee. :shruggy:
Nascar (and other professional sports) are being too politically correct. Hamlins' statements mirror this. What Hamlin forgets is, it was good solid racing like seen at the end of Texas and a brawl at Daytona that really put Nascar in the limelight. He makes it sound like Cale and the Allisons should have been having a tea party in turn 3. He should go back to playing golf.
Quote from: JB400 on November 05, 2014, 11:40:02 PM
Nascar (and other professional sports) are being too politically correct. Hamlins' statements mirror this. What Hamlin forgets is, it was good solid racing like seen at the end of Texas and a brawl at Daytona that really put Nascar in the limelight. He makes it sound like Cale and the Allisons should have been having a tea party in turn 3. He should go back to playing golf.
100% right.
and not just in the sports world I would add..................... :rotz:
Quote from: JB400 on November 05, 2014, 11:40:02 PM
Nascar (and other professional sports) are being too politically correct. Hamlins' statements mirror this. What Hamlin forgets is, it was good solid racing like seen at the end of Texas and a brawl at Daytona that really put Nascar in the limelight. He makes it sound like Cale and the Allisons should have been having a tea party in turn 3. He should go back to playing golf.
I was there for that brawl! Infield, too!! :cheers:
Kurt Busch under investigation for alleged domestic violence
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/kurt-busch-under-investigation-by-dover-police-for-alleged-domestic-violence-110714 (http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/kurt-busch-under-investigation-by-dover-police-for-alleged-domestic-violence-110714)
that's not surprising..look how many reporters he beat up years ago
Chase Elliot won the Nationwide Championship. Youngest driver ever to do so :2thumbs:
Quote from: JB400 on November 09, 2014, 01:22:56 AM
Chase Elliot won the Nationwide Championship. Youngest driver ever to do so :2thumbs:
:iagree: :2thumbs:
I had to work until 6:30 last night. Who won the race?
brad k won on a late restart passing kyle b to take the win. brad couldnt hold off kyle earlier and kyle took a nice lead. but with the late caution it was green white checker and some how brads old tires walked around kyles newer tires. the kid kept his car clean in the restart to get the napa car to the championship. :yesnod:
Brad Keselowski
Thanks guys :cheers:
BK is out :rotz: but so is cry babby Gordon :cheers: Harvic, Lagono, Newman and :shruggy:
At least we will have a 1st time champion..... Go harvick.
I would like to see either Newman or Lagono
The Penske side of me roots for Logano, but I'm favoring Newman. Harvick will probably get it though. Newman just seems to have the attitude to be champion.
Not the 31 did you see the way he body slammed the 42 NOT deserving of a championship :flame:
i would take the 4 or the 22
I seen it. At least there wasn't a brawl in the pits over it or both drivers wrecking each other after the race. It was just hard racing. He needed the position and was willing to put his car on the edge to get it. The door slam was a cheap shot, but at least he didn't lay his bumper to Larson and spin him out, which would have cost him several more positions than what he did lose.
''I didn't take him out,'' Newman said. ''In a day or two, he'll understand. It's hard to rationalize that, but I did what I had to do. I don't like racing that way.''
im for newman. I guess we all knew that, but, like they said after the race "did he make an illegal move? no. he did what it took to get the point he needed".
Hamlin is the fourth.
I hope Logano crashes out. I can't stand him at all. I rather would of had Gorden in. Punk ass kid reminds me of the joker without makeup :P
I want Newman to win it all.
:iagree: 100%
anyone but Lagano
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 09, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
I hope Logano crashes out. I can't stand him at all. I rather would of had Gorden in. Punk ass kid reminds me of the joker without makeup :P
I want Newman to win it all.
my thoughts exactly, he isnt a champion. Harvick is. maybe newman. but i dont like joey, and i ESPECIALLY dont want hamlin as champ. back a few years ago, he lost his talent in a race and blamed it on God.
i got a big problem with that.
The final four contenders for championship are not how I would have pictured it at the start of the year. With the exception of Harvick, the other three never really entered my mind. True Logano has shown he can win this year, but I still never had him on the radar. Hamlin has come close, so no real surprise other than he has had his share of bad luck the last couple of years (and some this year as well). And, Newman has been one of those drivers that kept under the radar most of the year...but even without a win has proved that being consistent can have big dividends.
I just wonder how those outside the world of NASCAR (and a lot of fans for that matter) will view NASCAR crowning a champion who perhaps never won a race the whole year...while others such as Keselowski and Gordon that have won multiple races are no longer in the running. And, of course they will also see one of the best drivers (that hurts me to even say) Jimmie Johnson and one of the most popular, Dale Jr. also on the outside looking in..... For many outside the world of NASCAR, it will just give them more ammunition in their view that NASCAR is not really a sport. (Forget that second seed teams played in the Super Bowl this year, if I am not mistaken). Anyway, I would like to have seen Gordon or Brad in the running, but it is what it is. In Homestead the smart money will be on Harvick....but then you never know. And, "Rubbing is Racing" may just be "Wrecking is Racing"......... Let the games begin!
Hmmmmmm........
Tough one.
Don't Like Hamlin
Harvick is a putz.
Logano......Maybe.....Only because I like Penske
Newman......used to like him more....I do like RC because he popped Kyle one.......
Can they fan vote Jr. in to be eligible? :lol:
Basically, this year's list of contenders for the Championship reminds me a lot of politics lately....you get to choose between the "least worst" candidate from the list..... :rotz:
Newman did Hamlin and Logano a HUGE favor by knocking Gordon out.
Newman has led a total of 41 laps all season. Harvick has led 2083.
Yes, I would like to see Newman win it.
No matter who wins this year's Sprint Cup, Chase Elliott will be more of a champion than either of them.
Quote from: wingcar on November 10, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
The final four contenders for championship are not how I would have pictured it at the start of the year. With the exception of Harvick, the other three never really entered my mind. True Logano has shown he can win this year, but I still never had him on the radar. Hamlin has come close, so no real surprise other than he has had his share of bad luck the last couple of years (and some this year as well). And, Newman has been one of those drivers that kept under the radar most of the year...but even without a win has proved that being consistent can have big dividends.
I just wonder how those outside the world of NASCAR (and a lot of fans for that matter) will view NASCAR crowning a champion who perhaps never won a race the whole year...while others such as Keselowski and Gordon that have won multiple races are no longer in the running. And, of course they will also see one of the best drivers (that hurts me to even say) Jimmie Johnson and one of the most popular, Dale Jr. also on the outside looking in..... For many outside the world of NASCAR, it will just give them more ammunition in their view that NASCAR is not really a sport. (Forget that second seed teams played in the Super Bowl this year, if I am not mistaken). Anyway, I would like to have seen Gordon or Brad in the running, but it is what it is. In Homestead the smart money will be on Harvick....but then you never know. And, "Rubbing is Racing" may just be "Wrecking is Racing"......... Let the games begin!
yep, it is real funny that they came up with the chase idea after matt k won with only winning one. now we have the chase on crack and a non winner might win
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 10, 2014, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 09, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
I hope Logano crashes out. I can't stand him at all. I rather would of had Gorden in. Punk ass kid reminds me of the joker without makeup :P
I want Newman to win it all.
my thoughts exactly, he isnt a champion. Harvick is. maybe newman. but i dont like joey, and i ESPECIALLY dont want hamlin as champ. back a few years ago, he lost his talent in a race and blamed it on God.
i got a big problem with that.
:cheers: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
so basically they set up a playoff format to give the guy that wins a chance at the chase and kick out the guys that haven't won a race even though they have better finishes and more points. they really thought that the top would be filled with winners only. well newman proved that top tens all year gets points when you don't have enough different winners. then in the playoffs, with out the contenders winning, they have to fill the spots with non winners. if newman finishes in front of the other three and doesn't win the race, their perfect playoff format backfired on them.
Does this count?! :nana:
(http://i.imgur.com/MBoXysV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/plV22g3.jpg)
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 10, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
so basically they set up a playoff format to give the guy that wins a chance at the chase and kick out the guys that haven't won a race even though they have better finishes and more points. they really thought that the top would be filled with winners only. well newman proved that top tens all year gets points when you don't have enough different winners. then in the playoffs, with out the contenders winning, they have to fill the spots with non winners. if newman finishes in front of the other three and doesn't win the race, their perfect playoff format backfired on them.
yep
Congrats to Kevin Harvick 2014 Sprint Cup champ!! :2thumbs: :yesnod: :cheers:
Great racing.
It wasn't clear to Me what happened to Joey.
Was it the jack Man or jack failure that caused the car to fall?
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 16, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
Great racing.
It wasn't clear to Me what happened to Joey.
Was it the jack Man or jack failure that caused the car to fall?
Car fell off the jack
I don't want to get this locked :D but this year's choice of the last few reminds me of that countrywide election we have every 4 years. A whole lot of meh to choose from.
This new format might bring back fans like me that had enough of JJ winning every year. And don't get me wrong, from what I've seen he's been a great champion off the track.
I like parity. Records are made to be broken although I'm not fond of Petty & Senior's # of championships not being broken.
Congrats to Stewart-Haas! :2thumbs:
you know what, I agree. even after making the chase, some cars end up pretty far ahead of the rest. in this new format, at each level, every one is back to even. if you make the cut, you have a chance. :2thumbs:
the only thing I have to say about the win is that it is another rick hendrick win. the first one in the celebration. stewart was off to the side :scratchchin: seems kinda odd. the owners of the team let mr hendrick be the first to congratulate the winner? only if its really his team.
sorry tony, your just a front man to make it look legit. :rotz:
I think with all the "drama" Stewart has gone through this year, it was perhaps a show of class that he allowed his friend to take it all in for a bit before entering the picture. I have no question as to this being his team (at least a part of it), and to get a Championship the first year with his good friend Harvick had to feel good. And, it was nice to see Stewart smiling again after the year he had. Plus, don't forget they beat team Hendrick outright as they use their motors. Now if Stewart can get the performance of his and the other two drivers (Danica and Kurt) improved the entire organization would be much stronger.
Of the four final contenders, Harvick would have been my pick as the best Champion as he has wins to backup his Championship and has been strong all year. Newman would have been my second pick, but only if he won the final race outright. I like him, but I still feel a champion should be able to win at least one race all year. Perhaps next year will be Newman's time.......
Bottomline, Don't change the chase as this was some of the best racing in years......
Quote from: wingcar on November 18, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
Bottomline, Don't change the chase as this was some of the best racing in years......
:iagree:
Don't be surprised if NASCAR officials look at adding/changing the rules relating to the side shirts. This year it got a bit out of hand with many teams pulling the shirts out upwards of five inches on their first pit stop. Apparently many teams felt it would add side force and in some cases even down force. One thing it definitely added was a real danger of cutting the tires of anyone who rubbed up against one of these cars.
*(Shades of James Bond's DB-5 Aston Martin from Goldfinger)
Yea your right there something needs to be done with that issue for sure! :iagree:
I say get rid of the side skirts all together, cut them up as high as you can get it and make the cars real trashy to drive
:2thumbs:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 21, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
I say get rid of the side skirts all together, cut them up as high as you can get it and make the cars real trashy to drive
:2thumbs:
Make them 4x4's ? :D (That would change downforce a bit...)
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 21, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
I say get rid of the side skirts all together, cut them up as high as you can get it and make the cars real trashy to drive
:2thumbs:
Everytime Nascar tries to make the cars drive trashy they always back off because the drivers all start to complain. The original goal of the COT was to create a platform that would rely on mechanical grip as opposed to downforce. The reality is that these cars have a massive amount of downforce compared to the Gen4 common template cars they replaced back in 06.
A cool paint scheme for BK:
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/11/a3/7b/11a37bff61f6c6d22eb9d400b8af5c13.jpg)
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/04/nbc-sports-group-adds-kyle-petty-to-nascar-broadcast-lineup/
great, let's bring over a bunch of crap from TNT that should make the broadcast good
:brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
I guess I'm different then. I always thought TNT had the best lineup for announcers. The rest are eh.. I like Kyle Petty's announcing way better then D.W's. Other then that, I really don't care for any of the 3 guys in the booth during the races for NBC.
Rick Allen from the Truck series drives me nuts. He gets excited over the smallest things :P
Steve Letarte is a unknown for announcing.
Jeff Burton is a unknown as well. But I have seen him in the booth a few times, and he wasn't great.
This is NBC's lineup and what they will be doing....
Race Lap-by-Lap Announcer: Rick Allen
Race Analyst: Jeff Burton
Race Analyst: Steve Letarte
Pit Reporter: Dave Burns
Pit Reporter: Mike Massaro
Pit Reporter: Marty Snider
Pit Reporter: Kelli Stavast
Race Hosts: Krista Voda & Kyle Petty (like the guys for Fox in the Hollywood Hotel)
Fox's lineup remains the same....
Race Lap-by-Lap Announcer: Mike Joy
Color/Analyst: Darrell Waltrip
Color/Analyst: Larry McReynolds
Pit Reporter: Matt Yocum
Pit Reporter: Steve Byrnes
Pit Reporter: Jamie Little
Race Hosts / Hollywood Hotel: Chris Myers & Michael Waltrip
Virtual Car: Jeff Hammond
Meteorologist: Rick Dickert
I'm really surprised that Dale Jarret or Rusty Wallace didn't move to one of the other networks.
This is a interesting read. It tells what the other ESPN announcers will be doing now with no NASCAR.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/time-transition-espns-nascar-personalities-144800888--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/time-transition-espns-nascar-personalities-144800888--nascar.html)
I guess my biggest problem with TNT was Wally d. so long as he as not coming over i will be ok
See, I liked Wally D.. I loved his ride with Wally segments
I like both Dale Jarrett and Rusty Wallace, I will actually miss them. Some of the others I could do without. But, then at times it was like watching Ego's going at it rather than interesting insight.....I really don't need to be told what I just saw, or what their opinion of a driver is....but then again that's sports boardcasting for you.
:Twocents:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 08, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
See, I liked Wally D.. I loved his ride with Wally segments
his go to thing was to scream about something that wasnt even on camera. irked me a lot
NASCAR driver Vickers undergoes heart surgery
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-driver-vickers-undergoes-heart-surgery-204354402--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-driver-vickers-undergoes-heart-surgery-204354402--nascar.html)
Brian Vickers underwent surgery to repair a hole in his heart for a second time, and the recovery period will cause him to miss the start of the 2015 season. Vickers said in a statement Monday issued by Michael Waltrip Racing that his previous health issues have given him ''a very keen understanding of my body'' that helped him recognize something wasn't right last week. Tests revealed his body was rejecting the artificial patch he received in a 2010 procedure to fix the hole in his heart.
The DP rule change for the Sprint Unlimited at Daytona:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/rules-changed-for-2015-sprint-unlimited-234437238.html
Now, Sprint is leaving Nascar at the end of 2016
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/sprint-to-end-nascar-sponsorship-after-2016-185242841.html
I just saw that too.
If Nascar would quit trying to compete with Football, or the other sports, and be a racing series again, maybe they wouldn't have the problems associated with them today. And let the Busch bros. be the Busch's again.
Ain't that the truth.
Quote from: JB400 on December 16, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
If Nascar would quit trying to compete with Football, or the other sports, and be a racing series again, maybe they wouldn't have the problems associated with them today. And let the Busch bros. be the Busch's again.
:iagree:
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 17, 2014, 07:34:23 AM
Quote from: JB400 on December 16, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
If Nascar would quit trying to compete with Football, or the other sports, and be a racing series again, maybe they wouldn't have the problems associated with them today. And let the Busch bros. be the Busch's again.
:iagree:
I agree as well....
Change for the sake of change is never a good thing. If you have a good product and things are going smoothly why change it. Sure attendance has been down in recent years....news flash most people don't have the same level of disposable income they once had (thank you Washington). And, factor in high gas prices and other social issues and it's easy to see why there are empty seats. But in my opinion NASCAR has never been in danger of going away or having to downsize to survive. One of the problems is that most young people no longer have the attention span that allows them to sit for upwards of four hours without an electric device to play with. But, somehow NASCAR needs to get these young people interested in the sport if they want to keep the sport growing into the future. A changing of the guard with new younger drivers entering the field will help, but more needs to be done. I just hope NASCAR leadership will look for new ideas and not just copy what they do in the NFL, NBA, etc.
Forgot - Who won the championship? ;)
The new Chase was exciting, but I have this feeling that something was missing. I can't put my finger on it, but I felt as if it wasn't necessarily the best driver of the year that won all the marbles. I guess it had a lot to do with the fact that luck played such a big part in the format. Have a couple of off weekends and you were out. I am not writing off the new format, just left me with a bit of an empty feeling. We'll see how 2015 plays out......
Of course something was missing. Danica wasn't in it
Quote from: wingcar on December 18, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
The new Chase was exciting, but I have this feeling that something was missing. I can't put my finger on it, but I felt as if it wasn't necessarily the best driver of the year that won all the marbles. I guess it had a lot to do with the fact that luck played such a big part in the format. Have a couple of off weekends and you were out. I am not writing off the new format, just left me with a bit of an empty feeling. We'll see how 2015 plays out......
not that I'm not tired of tweaks to the Chase,
but i think they need to change the format so after a specific round (maybe whatever it is after week 4-5), any Chase drivers that have not won a race all season get eliminated and the next guy(s) in the Chase standings with a win (or more) move(s) on.
That way, consistency in the regular season would be rewarded with a spot and a chance to compete in the Chase, but once you're in, it has to be "Win or you're out".
Quote from: Ponch ® on December 18, 2014, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: wingcar on December 18, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
The new Chase was exciting, but I have this feeling that something was missing. I can't put my finger on it, but I felt as if it wasn't necessarily the best driver of the year that won all the marbles. I guess it had a lot to do with the fact that luck played such a big part in the format. Have a couple of off weekends and you were out. I am not writing off the new format, just left me with a bit of an empty feeling. We'll see how 2015 plays out......
not that I'm not tired of tweaks to the Chase, but i think they need to change the format so after a specific round (maybe whatever it is after week 4-5), any Chase drivers that have not won a race all season get eliminated and the next guy(s) in the Chase standings with a win (or more) move(s) on.
That way, consistency in the regular season would be rewarded with a spot and a chance to compete in the Chase, but once you're in, it has to be "Win or you're out".
I actually like that idea......
Quote from: maxwellwedge on December 18, 2014, 09:27:18 AM
Forgot - Who won the championship? ;)
Not Jimmie, it was a very good year :2thumbs:
A nice little fun fact
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/1/6/7506391/jeff-gordon-original-car-number-46-24-days-of-thunder
Interesting
I heard the story on the radio and it was very interesting, a little bit of NASCAR history that even most Jeff Gordon fans didn't know.
Both Ray and Jeff will be in Scottsdale for the BJ auto auction to sell one of Jeff's old Nationwide cars......
Harvick has chicken legs.
doesn't take much leg to hold gas pedal to the floor like he did all year
Ryan Newman's new colors
(https://motorsportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/newman-new-car-for-2015.jpg?w=640)
Quote from: wingcar on January 08, 2015, 07:48:15 AM
I heard the story on the radio and it was very interesting, a little bit of NASCAR history that even most Jeff Gordon fans didn't know.
Both Ray and Jeff will be in Scottsdale for the BJ auto auction to sell one of Jeff's old Nationwide cars......
Yeap, when I visited Ray over the Christmas holiday, he mentioned being busy with season 2 of Americarna and the BJ Auction of one of his cars........ Heard that directly from the horse's mouth.......
If any of you guys find out when season 2 of Americarna will be on, and what channel, mention it here so I can set up the DVR please
Kurt Bush is now claiming that his ex girlfriend is/was an assassin... Perhaps he needs to invest in some self defense classes or at the very least a body guard. He has gone on record as saying that she can kick his butt. It's going to be interesting how this all plays out. But, it still sounds as if his ex-girl friend is just out to destroy Kurt and his career. Something that at times it appears Kurt himself is trying to do. Perhaps he should introduce her to other drivers...to bad Jimmie is already married... :D
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: wingcar on January 14, 2015, 07:53:46 AM
Kurt Bush is now claiming that his ex girlfriend is/was an assassin...
Far fetched? Maybe not....
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/kurt-buschs-ex-was-terrible-at-keeping-her-assassin-gig-1679384840
I would suggest that Kurt do a better background check on his next girl friend. As he has found out, it's hard to sleep with one eye open! And, it's also sort of sad and scary when your girl friend can come up with a hundred ways to "take you out"...and has the skills to do it herself!
Let's hope Kurt doesn't have any "accidents" in 2015.......
He's (still) got issues. She's a self promoter with a mean streak underneath. The sad thing is her kid that was dragged into the middle of this.
Stuff very well may have happened in the motor home. I'm no lawyer, but I don't see her getting the protective order.
Interesting
Check this out :popcrn:
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/who-is-patricia-driscoll-youtube-clip-of-kurt-busch-s-exgirlfriend-goes-viral-011515?cmpid=tsmfb:fscom:nascaronfox
wow, more then I knew about her, not that it matters, lol. They're both nuts :yesnod:
Screwing with pit road?
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/1/14/nascar-new-pit-road-system-technology-sprint-cup-series.html
It may just make pit road a bit safer. The one thing I wonder about is the lug nut issue. They are leaving it up to the individual teams to police themselves.......(like they are going to return their driver for one lose lug nut...I don't see that happening) And, in the past one lose lug nut has cost more than one driver the race....just saying.....
I can see the Hendrick wheels churning now to figure out how to cheat on this
I'm sure there will be some teams that will only tighten 4 come a g/w/c finish and Nascar will have more cautions for loose wheels. I just hope none end up in the stands.
Quote from: JB400 on January 20, 2015, 01:06:42 AM
I'm sure there will be some teams that will only tighten 4 come a g/w/c finish and Nascar will have more cautions for loose wheels. I just hope none end up in the stands.
Yeah :rotz:
that's like saying we don't need refs on the football field. the teams will ref the game themselves. they will call their own penalties, and decide ball location during measurements. yea right.
AMERICARNA on Velocity February 17th 9pm eastern time :2thumbs:
Ron Hornaday to drive Sprint Cup car for The Motorsports Group
Four-time NASCAR Camping World Truck Series champion Ron Hornaday has been named the primary driver of the No. 30 Chevrolet for a start-up Sprint Cup Series team, The Motorsports Group, in the 2015 NASCAR season.
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/ron-hornaday-to-drive-sprint-cup-series-car-for-the-motorsports-group-012115?cmpid=tsmfb:fscom:nascaronfox (http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/ron-hornaday-to-drive-sprint-cup-series-car-for-the-motorsports-group-012115?cmpid=tsmfb:fscom:nascaronfox)
I guess a 3rd rate Sprint Cup ride is better than being tossed around in the truck series. I wish Johnny Benson would get a similar treatment. It's pretty bad when you can win the championship and then lose your ride due to sponsorship for the upcoming season.
Big news today in NASCAR Jeff Gordon is retiring from full time driving after this year. :o
Quote from: keith88 on January 22, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
Big news today in NASCAR Jeff Gordon is retiring from full time driving after this year. :o
He's gonna be missed. I'm admittedly one of those people who bandwagoned into the sport in the mid 90's because of Jeff Gordon. I have many favorite drivers, but I still root for him. Love him or hate him, he is one of the all time greats.
His retirement will really be the end of an era. Don't forget, he is one the few guys left from the aforementioned 90's "golden era" that went toe to toe (and consistently beat )against Earnhardt Sr, Rusty Wallace, et al while they were still competitive.
Here is the story. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jeff-gordon-retire-full-time-driver-2015-season-153747587--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jeff-gordon-retire-full-time-driver-2015-season-153747587--nascar.html)
I was surprised as well :o
Take Jimmie with you
That would be nice ..but its wishful thinking ::)
Not totally surprising as he was having back issues and hinted about having to get out of the car if things didn't improve....then came 2014 and he looked like the Gordon of old once more. Just have to wonder, if he doesn't get an additional Championship this year but misses by only points will he want to continue for another year. But then I think the Chase Elliot issue will be a problem as I believe they already have plans to move him into the number 24 for 2016. It will be strange not having Gordon out there since he's been a fixture at the track since '92. Looks as if the old guard will finally be all gone after next year......
I wonder if Hendrick has the rights to any other numbers, so that the 24 can take a breather for few years....kinda like what they did with Earnhardt's 3.
After 23 years of Gordon behind the wheel, it'll be weird to have somebody else in there.
I can honestly say I won't miss him when he's finally gone....
Wood Bros. officially the oldest, still active team:
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/20/guinness-officially-recognizes-wood-brothers-as-nascars-longest-active-team/
Quote from: A383Wing on January 22, 2015, 11:38:22 PM
I can honestly say I won't miss him when he's finally gone....
:iagree:
Quote from: HeavyFuel on January 22, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
I wonder if Hendrick has the rights to any other numbers, so that the 24 can take a breather for few years....kinda like what they did with Earnhardt's 3.
After 23 years of Gordon behind the wheel, it'll be weird to have somebody else in there.
Nascar has the rights to all numbers. When Richard Petty wanted to take the #43 out of circulation Nascar said "use it or loose it". Earnhardt was the only exception that has been made in this case because of his enormous popularity at the time of his death. While it can be argued that Petty was an icon of the sport he hadn't won a race in 10 years when he retired so Nascar said no. Hard to know what they will do with the 24. Chase Elliot is coming along and after running a limited schedule this year he may share duties in the the car on his way to a full time ride in the seat in 2017. ?????
Just goes to show how old we all are, it doesn't seem that long ago...and Earnhardt gone almost 15 years.
Chase could end up in the 25, which Hendrick still has rights to, I believe. It's just like the 3, Childress still had rights to it, he just didn't use it. Hendrick could do the same for the 24. He could retire the number, but claim the rights to it, and then bring it back later on.
Things have changed a lot. it sure doesn't seem that long ago. when dale sr. died, I hated him. thought he was a cheater. didn't like his style. didn't like the fact that it was ok for him to cause havoc for any one else, but no one was supposed to do anything to him attitude. I loved to root against him. I hated to lose him because it created a void for me. the guys I root for and the guys I root against. now at first stewart tried to step in and take dale's spot. but it just wasn't the same. the bush bros. are doing a pretty good job. and I tried to hate jr. the same way as daddy. (I really think that was because of all these band wagon fans that became jr. fans because dale was gone and it was cool to wear a jr. t-shirt). but all in all, no one could take my passion of pure dislike the way that dale could. although I couldn't stand him, he was one of the big reasons I turned the race on every sunday.
The official beginning of racing season starts today on Fox at 1pm central time with the 24 hours of Daytona :2thumbs:
Quote from: HeavyFuel on January 22, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
I wonder if Hendrick has the rights to any other numbers, so that the 24 can take a breather for few years....kinda like what they did with Earnhardt's 3.
After 23 years of Gordon behind the wheel, it'll be weird to have somebody else in there.
That hole number thing will be interesting to watch unfold. It's no secreat Chase Elliott will take over the 24 car except he probably would prefer to have his dads #9 on the door, but Petty has that number. You know Hendrick could just buy it from Petty but then what number does petty use? And then what happens to the 24 the 48,5 &88 are not going to swap numbers... :brickwall:
:popcrn: probably be September or October when it leaks out or is announced.
The rainbow warrior is retiring.... that make me feel old. He is still one of the "new guys" to me :eek2:
It would be hard to actually "retire" a number as somewhere down the road you would start to run out of numbers unless you went to three digits. You may say that would never happen, but...first you retire the 43 and 3, and then other fans are going to ask why their favorite driver didn't have their number retired? And, what about other big names from the past, such as "Fireball" Roberts, Tiny Lund, David Pearson, Rusty Wallace, (insert your driver) etc, etc....
A few years back NASCAR.com I believe did some "Family Trees" on various numbers including the number 3 and number 43 showing the different drivers who used the numbers through the years...very interesting.
Jeff Gordon to be Fox guest analyst during XFINITY season
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jeff-gordon-fox-guest-analyst-during-xfinity-season-212607712--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jeff-gordon-fox-guest-analyst-during-xfinity-season-212607712--nascar.html)
By the numbers.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-cup-series/nascar-nation/nascar-edu/rules-guy/breaking-down-car-numbers.html
Here is the "Family Tree" for the number 43
commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wi68a0LsLDA&x-yt-cl=84924572&x-yt-ts=1422411861#t=2
One more reason not to watch Nascar this season :eek2:
Seriously, can NASCAR do any more damage to its image in the eyes of the main stream? Many already think it's a "Redneck" sport......they don't need clowns like this stating it over and over.....good grief.....
It just pisses me off now that every damn race we watch this year we're gonna be hearing about cry-baby Gordon retiring on TV...whether it be interviews or the on track announcers bringing it up again...and again..and yet again...
thank God I usually record the races and fast forward through all the commercials and the 24 & 48 interviews
:iagree: you are not kidding. all year it will be the talk before every race how we are losing another great competitor. :brickwall:
and the suck up announcers constantly talking about how it would be great for him to win a championship in his last year...... blah bla blah blah blah
Maybe Gordon will give us all a parting present and "accidentally" take out the number 48 and his chance for another championship.....(OK, just dreaming)
NASCAR Hall of Famer David Pearson recovering from stroke
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- NASCAR Hall of Famer and former three-time Cup champion David Pearson is recovering from a mild stroke he suffered on Dec. 9.
Pearson's family released a statement Wednesday that says he is ''doing great and well on the road to recovery.'' The statement said the 80-year-old Pearson is ''80 to 85 percent back to normal'' and a full recovery is expected soon.
The family says the stroke affected his left side, but he is able to walk slowly and his arm is continuing to gain maneuverability. He is continuing to undergo therapy on his arm and leg.
Richard Petty Motorsports committed to running Hornish Jr
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Sam Hornish Jr. is finally back in the Sprint Cup Series after a four-year absence, in a ride Richard Petty Motorsports insists it is committed to fielding for the entire year.
RPM has 26 unsponsored races as it heads into next month's season-opener. Twisted Tea will sponsor the Daytona 500 and the July race at Daytona International Raceway, and team co-owner Andrew Murstein is willing to provide some funding through his Medallion Bank.
Hornish replaced Marcos Ambrose in the No. 9 Ford, and is teammates with Aric Almirola, who made the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship last season.
RPM director of operations Sammy Johns said he's moving forward as if the organization will have two full-time cars all season, despite the lack of sponsorship for Hornish. RPM said Almirola's car is fully funded.
Chase Elliott in the #25 car for 2015, #24 car next year
Chase Elliott, who became the youngest national series champion in NASCAR history last season, will join Hendrick Motorsports as a full-time Sprint Cup driver beginning in 2016. Elliott's #24 Chevy team will be led by crew chief Alan Gustafson, who has earned 19 wins, 18 pole positions, 98 top-five finishes and 165 top-10s at the elite Cup level.
http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/25-Hendrick-NASCAR-Team-News (http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/25-Hendrick-NASCAR-Team-News)
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 29, 2015, 02:01:17 PM
Chase Elliott in the #25 car for 2015, #24 car next year
Chase Elliott, who became the youngest national series champion in NASCAR history last season, will join Hendrick Motorsports as a full-time Sprint Cup driver beginning in 2016. Elliott's #24 Chevy team will be led by crew chief Alan Gustafson, who has earned 19 wins, 18 pole positions, 98 top-five finishes and 165 top-10s at the elite Cup level.
http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/25-Hendrick-NASCAR-Team-News (http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/25-Hendrick-NASCAR-Team-News)
no pressure or high expectations there for the kid... ::)
I wonder who's listed as the owner of the 25? One owner can only have 4 cars :scratchchin: Never mind, found out the reason: Chase Elliott is rumored to be running a limited Sprint Cup Series schedule in 2015 after winning the Nationwide Championship in 2014. A team with four cars can run a fifth team with a rookie driver for up to seven races.
I wonder if Elliot will end up being the next Kyle Busch or Joey Logano. Both drivers started really young, ran for a couple years, then got shown the exit.
Quote from: JB400 on January 29, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
I wonder who's listed as the owner of the 25? One owner can only have 4 cars :scratchchin: Never mind, found out the reason: Chase Elliott is rumored to be running a limited Sprint Cup Series schedule in 2015 after winning the Nationwide Championship in 2014. A team with four cars can run a fifth team with a rookie driver for up to seven races.
I wonder if Elliot will end up being the next Kyle Busch or Joey Logano. Both drivers started really young, ran for a couple years, then got shown the exit.
Hopefully not. Busch was talented but a hothead from day one and Hendrick wouldnt have it...surprised he's still at JGR considering the behavior issues he's had there. Logano had to deal with being the 3rd banana behind KB and Hamlin at JGR + the pressure of supposedly being a Lebron-type prodigy of NASCAR. He's come into his own at Penske.
Sounds like Chase may get the 9 if he and Rick want it...
Richard Petty: #9 is Chase Elliott's if he wants it: On Wednesday, NASCAR Sprint Cup team owner Richard Petty said he's not "emotionally attached" to #9, which Marcos Ambrose carried at Richard Petty Motorsports and which Sam Hornish Jr. will carry this year. "We inherited that number [when Petty bought the remnants of the Ray Evernham/George Gillette team]," Petty said. "It doesn't mean anything to me, but it does to the sponsors we'd already signed for this year. If the kid wants it next year, though, that's fine with us."
"The kid" he refers to is Chase Elliott. His famous father carried number 9 for most of his career, getting 38 of his 44 victories and his championship with it. "Awesome Bill" carried 17 other numbers during his Sprint Cup career, most notably 11 with Junior Johnson, 21 with the Wood brothers and 94 with the team he created and owned late in his career. Chase Elliott will run five Cup races this year in #25 for Hendrick Motorsports. Don't be surprised if that number is 9 when the 2016 season opens in Daytona Beach.(AutoWeek)(1-29-2015)
I think the 24 is more important to Hendrick.
As much as I dislike Hendrick....I think the 9 car would suit Chase better because it was Dad's number......
That leaves him with a dilemma, does he want to continue on his dad's legacy, or build his own?
Quote from: JB400 on January 29, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
That leaves him with a dilemma, does he want to continue on his dad's legacy, or build his own?
most "son of....." drivers shy away from running the numbers their father did for that very reason. Invites too many expectations, comparisons, etc. Kyle Petty didn't do it, Dale Jr. didnt do it, and I don't think Chase Elliott will do it. Sure the 24 has weight of its own, but not as much as when there is a familial relation.
Plus yea, for Hendrick the 24 = $$$
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 29, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: JB400 on January 29, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
That leaves him with a dilemma, does he want to continue on his dad's legacy, or build his own?
most "son of....." drivers shy away from running the numbers their father did for that very reason. Invites too many expectations, comparisons, etc. Kyle Petty didn't do it, Dale Jr. didnt do it, and I don't think Chase Elliott will do it. Sure the 24 has weight of its own, but not as much as when there is a familial relation.
Never mind the fact that he has already been running the 9 as he has worked his way up...
I agree Rick and Jeff want to see the 24 contuine, I wonder wat NAPA wants?
Quote from: thedodgeboys on January 30, 2015, 09:34:56 AM
Never mind the fact that he has already been running the 9 as he has worked his way up...
Its one thing to run it at the lower levels...everybody thinks its cute, etc. But when you get to Cup, that's when it goes from "oh look..he's trying to be just like his daddy...how cute" to "he shouldnt be running that number if he can't drive for shit and win championships like his old man".
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 30, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
Its one thing to run it at the lower levels...everybody thinks its cute, etc. But when you get to Cup, that's when it goes from "oh look..he's trying to be just like his daddy...how cute" to "he shouldnt be running that number if he can't drive for shit and win championships like his old man".
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: TOTALLY!
Any early predictions on whether he'll win any races next year?
Quote from: JB400 on January 30, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
Any early predictions on whether he'll win any races next year?
Elliott? Probably not in Cup if he's going to run a limited schedule and will be "learning the ropes", unless it's a fluke rain shortened race or something along those lines.
As for 2016...who knows? He'll be in top notch equipment and have a few races under his belt by then...
I think Chase will run decent in the 5 races he'll attempt. I thought rookies had the choice to run up to 7 races to be eligible for ROTY? Maybe it's changed since 2009? I think Kyle Larson and Ryan Blaney will be the guys to watch this year also. I expect Ky. B, Harvick, and Keselowski will dominate the first quarter since they ran alot of NNS races the past few years while everyone else is adjusting to the new HP rules.
Quote from: MoparCharger500 on February 03, 2015, 08:13:44 PM
I think Chase will run decent in the 5 races he'll attempt. I thought rookies had the choice to run up to 7 races to be eligible for ROTY? Maybe it's changed since 2009? I think Kyle Larson and Ryan Blaney will be the guys to watch this year also. I expect Ky. B, Harvick, and Keselowski will dominate the first quarter since they ran alot of NNS races the past few years while everyone else is adjusting to the new HP rules.
Probably only running 5 due to sponsorship or scheduling issues.
I agree on Kyle Larson...but too bad he's on Earnhardt-Ganassi (or whatever it is called now) equipment and wont be able to do as much as hes capable of.
I agree about Larson, he'll win one this year for sure.
Speed weeks starts Thursday. :drive:
I believe Thursday is only media day. Friday Shootout practice and ARCA practice, and then Saturday the Shootout and the ARCA race before that.
DW needs to shut the hell up..... :brickwall:
Quote from: A383Wing on February 13, 2015, 05:34:12 PM
DW needs to shut the hell up..... :brickwall:
man if i had a nickel for every time i heard that! :smilielol:
yea, I would be broke because I say it every year......and his little brother is more annoying
I have a mute button for these appropriate times
chubby doesn't want to weigh in.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/nascar-driver-tony-stewart-gets-flagged-for-weighty-issue/ar-AA9nGOB
guess I shouldn't say much since I'm no perfect body either. :smilielol:
Dual practice is on Fox Sports 1 right now and there is a break, then a second practice. ARCA race live at 3pm central time, then a hour break, and the shootout at 7pm central on Fox tonight.
They already are talking about tomorrows qualifying and the crashes because the new qualifying format happens for the first time for the Daytona 500. Starts at noon central time on Fox.
got it thanks
I thought the race was pretty good tonight, other than commercials every 5 laps :flame: Even JJ and Tony got banged up a little, and taken out of contention. I could have done without the last caution though. It was setting up to be really good.
Already a 5 car pile up in the 1st segment of qualifying. Clint Boyer was in it and his car was junk, and because of the red flag, the first 25 qualifying cars did not complete a qualifying lap before the time limit ran out. so yeah, lol. Lot of BIG names were in the first 25 cars.
Best part of the shootout......seeing the number 48 hooked up to a tow truck...priceless....
Hope the rest of his year goes the same......
(yes, I know I'm bad, but I can't help it)
this qualifying format sucks at Daytona
Yes it does :P
And having the 48 and 24 on the from row sucks too :P :brickwall:
Weak, gets worse every year :rotz:
All I can hope for now is that the pole sitter takes out #2 qualifier in turn one after the green flag
Quote from: A383Wing on February 15, 2015, 04:12:41 PM
All I can hope for now is that the pole sitter takes out #2 qualifier in turn one after the green flag
I'm right there with you on your thinking :yesnod: :lol:
Dale and Hamlin dq'd.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/2/15/8042877/daytona-500-2015-dale-earnhardt-jr-denny-hamlin-fail-inspection
You might as well call the new qualifying format what it really is....a mini race. Like Reed Sorenson said after he wrecked (and took out Clint Bowyer)...he was doing everything he needed to do in order to qualify and get into the big race, he tried to block (like they were doing during the Shootout)....but it didn't work out.
This new format which has proven to be very controversial - will attributed to more wrecks in the future.
Quote from: wingcar on February 16, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
This new format which has proven to be very controversial - will attributed to more wrecks in the future.
Well, That'st he point I guess, to make it controversial to bring in more viewers. That said, the stands were almost empty for qualifying yet.
I sure liked Clint Boyers interview at the end of his wreck.....he let it all hang out and didn't hold back anything
:smilielol: She's at it again. The best part is, I saw on a Nascar thread on FB, from another woman, that she said quote "Danica needs to quit before she kills someone" which is sad but true.
Patrick, Hamlin wreck during Daytona 500 practice
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/patrick-hamlin-wreck-during-daytona-500-practice-213724081--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/patrick-hamlin-wreck-during-daytona-500-practice-213724081--nascar.html)
Top of the hour, on FS1, the Duals. Should be good. I watched a little of truck practice today, that will be a wreckfest too. Half of the drivers never been at Daytona, little alone a super speedway, or even in a Nascar truck. :P
or ever had a drivers license
Did I hear right?? BK is not in the D500??
He made it
BK is guaranteed a spot, as long as he is physically capable of making it. He has a past champions provisional.
wishful thinking I guess
Danica and Denny with audio.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/featured-shows/2015/2/20/sprint-cup-series-daytona-international-speedway-duel-all-access-danica-patrick-denny-hamlin-confrontation.html (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/featured-shows/2015/2/20/sprint-cup-series-daytona-international-speedway-duel-all-access-danica-patrick-denny-hamlin-confrontation.html)
Kurt Busch just got suspended from Nascar.
Quote from: JB400 on February 20, 2015, 06:11:47 PM
Kurt Busch just got suspended from Nascar.
You beat me to it...
Jayski's NASCAR Silly Season SiteNASCAR has indefinitely suspended driver Kurt Busch for actions detrimental to stock car racing following the release today of a supplemental disposition setting forth the findings and conclusions that formed the basis for the Family Court of the State of Delaware's decision on Monday to issue an Order of Protection from Abuse against him. Busch, driver of the #41 car, was found to be in violation of:
· Section 12.1.a: Actions detrimental to stock car racing
· Section 12.8: Behavioral Penalty
"Given the serious nature of the findings and conclusions made by the Commissioner of the Family Court of the State of Delaware, NASCAR has indefinitely suspended driver Kurt Busch, effective immediately. He will not be allowed to race nor participate in any NASCAR activities until further notice. Kurt Busch and his Stewart-Haas Racing team are fully aware of our position and why this decision was made. We will continue to respect the process and timetable of the authorities involved."
Looks like Regan Smith will take over the 41 at the 500.
well, I can tell you his ex-GF has issues as well, she "could" be making all this up.....don't get me wrong here, but what happened to "innocent until proven guilty" in this country?
it's more like "shoot first and ask questions later"
Quote from: A383Wing on February 20, 2015, 06:37:14 PM
well, I can tell you his ex-GF has issues as well, she "could" be making all this up.....don't get me wrong here, but what happened to "innocent until proven guilty" in this country?
it's more like "shoot first and ask questions later"
She certainly is no angel. NASCAR waited until the judge released the court papers, 25 pages of which explained why he issued the no contact order. Both she and Kurt are a different kind of crazy, and she definitely has it out for him. Given his past history (fired by Roush, fired by Penske, all the personal outbursts), there is enough smoke for NASCAR to start the process of firing him too.
I agree he's no saint either, but she's probably still mad that he dumped her a while back....
Quote from: A383Wing on February 20, 2015, 10:58:18 PM
I agree he's no saint either, but she's probably still mad that he dumped her a while back....
She wants to put a rough cut 2 x 4 up his a$$. At the moment, she is succeeding. His means of income has been shut down. NASCAR even took down his online merchandise earlier tonight. Although the SHR store still seems to be up.
He gets to appeal to a three member NASCAR board on Saturday. But either way, he is still out of the car for the 500.
I think he is getting the shaft :shruggy: even if he is guilty why did that judge wait so long to issue his decision?
Yes he is wound a little tight but this is crazy the woman can clearly defend herself, look at her videos bush is a little guy and she's a trained assassin :slap: or at least a tuff girl...
Why didn't she report it as soon as it happend? It just smells wrong :Twocents:
Update From MRN
The order from Kent County (Del.) Family Court commissioner David Jones found "by a preponderance of the evidence" that Busch committed an act of domestic violence against Driscoll. Among the descriptions in the text of the written opinion is that Jones believed Busch "manually strangled" Driscoll in the incident that took place in his motorhome last September. Jones believed there was "substantial likelihood" Busch could commit similar future actions.
However, Driscoll provided "false testimony" during the December and January hearings according to the commissioner. But Jones believed there was enough independent evidence to support Driscoll's claim.
They mentioned on tv last night, apparently he smashed her face into a wall a couple of times. With his anger issues I can see that. And remember, he was suspended once before for going off on Dr. Jerry Punch. I think there was a female reporter too he did that too also.
The Mustang race car in the Infinity series sure looks ugly :eek2:
(http://www.roushfenway.com/imgsize.php?w=658&img=files/bubbaweb.jpg)
I am no Kurt (or kyle) busch fan, but what I read online yesterday said the judge said there was enough evidence that "he more likely than not" committed domestic violence.
excuse me, but how does a phrase like that merit that kind of suspension? that isnt even saying he is guilty, just that the judge thinks he is.
and if it really happened, why is she bringing it up now? Why was this not brought up when it took place?
as stated, something does not add up correctly here
Ryan Reed wins the Infinity race at Daytona for Roush. Kyle Busch took a very hard hit head on into the wall :o
Quote from: A383Wing on February 21, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
and if it really happened, why is she bringing it up now? Why was this not brought up when it took place?
as stated, something does not add up correctly here
Something to do with custody with the kids father was the explanation. But I don't understand that piece either. The event happened in Sept. But it took her a month to come forward with the allegations.
Quote from: JB400 on February 21, 2015, 06:28:03 PM
Ryan Reed wins the Infinity race at Daytona for Roush. Kyle Busch took a very hard hit head on into the wall :o
A lot like Mark Martin at Talladega in 1994. No SAFER or HANS back then.
Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49A5hf6lJeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49A5hf6lJeQ)
Kyle Busch to miss Daytona 500 after Xfinity crash
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ryan-reed-wins-xfinity-race-daytona-kyle-busch-234733897--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ryan-reed-wins-xfinity-race-daytona-kyle-busch-234733897--nascar.html)
I agree with what Larry MaC said earlier, there is no excuse for not having the "safer walls" on the complete inside and outside of all Nascar tracks in the circuit
"We should have had a SAFER barrier there today, we did not. We're going to fix that."
-- Daytona International Speedway President Joie Chitwood
kinda like closing the barn door after the horse got out....barrier should have been in place when they did the rest of the track
Matt Crafton has been tapped to replace the injured Kyle Busch for the 500.
This off Hendricks FB page.. Kyle will likely miss half the season if not all. Kyle and Samantha need well wishes and prayers. In a reply to that, someone else said he is going to miss the whole season.
UPDATED - I just got this off his fan page "Kyle Busch has sustained a right lower leg compound fracture and left mid-foot fracture. A return date has not yet been determined. Matt Crafton will serve as the interim driver of the No. 18 Toyota during Sunday's DAYTONA500"
KURT BUSCH update from Jayski's -
This evening, the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer, Mr. Bryan Moss, heard and considered the appeal of driver Kurt Busch. The penalty concerns Section 12.1.a: Actions detrimental to stock car racing; 12.8: Behavioral penalty.
The penalty stems from activities last year involving Kurt Busch that resulted in a decision by the Family Court of the State of Delaware to issue an Order of Protection of Abuse against him. The penalty is an indefinite suspension. Earlier today, a three-person National Motorsports Appeals Panel upheld the original penalty assessed by NASCAR.
Tonight [Saturday, February 21, 2015], Kurt Busch presented his position to the Final Appeals Officer. Representing NASCAR was Jim Cassidy, Senior Vice President of Racing Operations. The Appellate Administrator is NASCAR Vice President George Silbermann.
Upon hearing tonight's testimony, Bryan Moss, the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer, made the following decisions:
· The appellant violated the Rules set forth in the penalty notice and the decision of the National Motorsports Appeals Panel was correct;
· The penalty was within the scope of the guidelines;
· The National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer upholds the original penalty levied by NASCAR
The decision of the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer is final and binding on all parties. Kurt Busch now has exhausted his appeal options under the NASCAR Rulebook, and the indefinite suspension remains in effect. He will not be allowed to race nor participate in any NASCAR activities until further notice.
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 22, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
BK most likely.
Kyles car. Look how pushed back everything is on it :o
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 22, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
Still have joeie an Brad as villians????
is joeie a child molester??? how old is his girlfriend----13-15 she looks????? jailtime,haha
BOUT turned it off 10 minutes in with m waltrip an dance with losers garbage??boo
An interesting article:
http://tablet.washingtonpost.com/top/five-myths-about-nascar/2015/02/22/44a6ee00-b7ab-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html
Glad to see Stewart take himself out of contention :hah:
Logano wins, locks himself into the Chase. Good job to the Penske crew :2thumbs:
I can't stand Logano :eek2:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 22, 2015, 06:31:35 PM
I can't stand Logano :eek2:
me either, or BK, or JJ, or JG.....almost everyone else I can tolerate....as long as those 4 don't win, I'm happy
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 22, 2015, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 22, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
BK most likely.
Kyles car. Look how pushed back everything is on it :o
seeing wrecks like that makes my chest hurt, i hate hate hate getting the air knocked out of my lungs, you know that happened when he hit
Quote from: JB400 on February 22, 2015, 02:28:20 PM
An interesting article:
http://tablet.washingtonpost.com/top/five-myths-about-nascar/2015/02/22/44a6ee00-b7ab-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html
Glad to see Stewart take himself out of contention :hah:
Logano wins, locks himself into the Chase. Good job to the Penske crew :2thumbs:
:cheers:
Haven't been a Lagano fan......but he damm sure was in the thick of it all afternoon and made the right moves to win.
Really have not been that much of a Nascar fan last few years......but a couple of things picked up my interest....
Their much publicized, super duper, all-seeing video officiating.......seemed to work.
And.......the drivers themselves......
3 wide......for how many laps?
Large part of the field, lined up 3 wide......
That was awesome.....
I enjoyed the race.. :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 23, 2015, 11:14:37 AM
I enjoyed the race.. :icon_smile_big:
I see your point.....
Having a Daytona in one's garage will improve anything on TV...... :yesnod:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 21, 2015, 09:38:50 PM
KURT BUSCH update from Jayski's -
This evening, the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer, Mr. Bryan Moss, heard and considered the appeal of driver Kurt Busch. The penalty concerns Section 12.1.a: Actions detrimental to stock car racing; 12.8: Behavioral penalty.
The penalty stems from activities last year involving Kurt Busch that resulted in a decision by the Family Court of the State of Delaware to issue an Order of Protection of Abuse against him. The penalty is an indefinite suspension. Earlier today, a three-person National Motorsports Appeals Panel upheld the original penalty assessed by NASCAR.
Tonight [Saturday, February 21, 2015], Kurt Busch presented his position to the Final Appeals Officer. Representing NASCAR was Jim Cassidy, Senior Vice President of Racing Operations. The Appellate Administrator is NASCAR Vice President George Silbermann.
Upon hearing tonight's testimony, Bryan Moss, the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer, made the following decisions:
· The appellant violated the Rules set forth in the penalty notice and the decision of the National Motorsports Appeals Panel was correct;
· The penalty was within the scope of the guidelines;
· The National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer upholds the original penalty levied by NASCAR
The decision of the National Motorsports Final Appeals Officer is final and binding on all parties. Kurt Busch now has exhausted his appeal options under the NASCAR Rulebook, and the indefinite suspension remains in effect. He will not be allowed to race nor participate in any NASCAR activities until further notice.
Not surprised. NASCAR (and all the other major sports leagues,for that matter) saw how much flack the NFL caught for mishandling the Ray Rice deal. They're not taking any chances.
that's exactly what nascar did. they were afraid to be too lenient with kurt because of the football goof. so they went the other direction.
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 23, 2015, 04:55:53 PM
that's exactly what nascar did. they were afraid to be too lenient with kurt because of the football goof. so they went the other direction.
Yes, and given his past "body of work", it's not surprising.
A lot of people have been pushing this thing off on the girlfriend in a he said she said scenerio .One of the guys I work with who knows the situation pretty well said that his ex wife had a panic room built not to protect her from intruders but from him as he wasn't a happy drunk. His girlfriend looks like she has a bit of an iffy past but in this case at least it seems that like seeks out like. One of the tipping points that led to his younger brother leaving our organization was a charity golf tournament where the two brothers were fighting like twelve year old idiots. When the PR girl handling the younger brother tried to get him to tone it down he threw his phone at her. He was asked to leave by the boss. Something in there upbringing I am thinking. :shruggy:
Quote from: Stevearino on February 23, 2015, 05:26:28 PM
Something in there upbringing I am thinking. :shruggy:
Good story. Somewhere along the line, I had also heard that the apples didn't fall far from the tree.
what I did like is all the young talent getting into the 500. and what an awesome job they did riding with the pack. I really expected a ton of wrecks late in the race as the pressure would hit them. about time for me to look at some new drivers for my vote.
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 22, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
I spelled Busch without the C
And You Guy's ragged My a$$
LOL
Quote from: nvrbdn on February 23, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
what I did like is all the young talent getting into the 500. and what an awesome job they did riding with the pack. I really expected a ton of wrecks late in the race as the pressure would hit them. about time for me to look at some new drivers for my vote.
:iagree:
The new Guy's are more about racing and not about the money ( At least not yet ).
They are trying to make it and that makes them interesting to Me.
Fun to watch up and coming Stars.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on February 23, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on February 22, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
:popcrn:
With no Bush's in the race who will be the villains today?
I spelled Busch without the C
And You Guy's ragged My a$$
LOL
That's becuse they know your better than me, I'm a lost cause... :2thumbs:
My take on this whole Busch deal is that he has been laying the ground work for his exit from NASCAR for some time. Will he return? Only time will tell, but he has burned so many bridges in the past....who would he drive for? He has now gone though three of the top teams and one of the smaller ones and I don't see him ever getting asked to returned to any of them. Plus, Chevy wants nothing more to do with him which rules out any team that fields Chevys. He has a track record both on and off the track that doesn't make him a top pick for any team. The only thing he has going for him is that he is a past champion and has shown that he can win. But, with his documented "Anger Management" issues it makes him a very hard sell to any team that might be interested. So again the question becomes, who would want him? NASCAR has said it will offer him a "program" that if he completes it will allow him to return. But, again I don't see anyone wanting to take him on, and by the time he completes any "program" I bet half the year will be over. Sad, but he brought all this on himself due to his past record. And, what makes it even sadder is the fact that it looked as if he had put his career back on track.
I still have issues with the Judge waiting so long to pass any judgment, but I keep hearing that he saw more documentation than was released to the public. So I guess we will have to wait and see what that documentation is. And, I am sure that the additional documentation was supplied to NASCAR. But, it's almost as if he waited until right before the Daytona 500 to release his judgment which I have a hard time accepting....the timing just looks all wrong. If Kurt is guilty then he has no defense and I don't see many fans supporting him. Kurt....perhaps you burned one too many bridges to ever be able to return.
*Maybe he can take up drag racing since he tried that a few years back......(just hope he doesn't forget not to turn left).
Just my two cents :Twocents:
Quote from: wingcar on February 24, 2015, 11:33:01 AM
I still have issues with the Judge waiting so long to pass any judgment, but I keep hearing that he saw more documentation than was released to the public. So I guess we will have to wait and see what that documentation is. And, I am sure that the additional documentation was supplied to NASCAR. But, it's almost as if he waited until right before the Daytona 500 to release his judgment which I have a hard time accepting....the timing just looks all wrong. If Kurt is guilty then he has no defense and I don't see many fans supporting him. Kurt....perhaps you burned one too many bridges to ever be able to return.
"More likely than not", which is what the court said in regards to Busch, is not exactly a very high standard to meet and most courts are reluctant to dismiss a case once it has been met. It's pretty self explanatory - all that needs to be shown is that its more likely that it happened than it didn't, but it does not have to be certain.
So let's say there's a robbery. Witnesses say it was a tall guy in a black car wearing a white shirt that did it. You get stopped and arrested as a suspect because you're a tall guy, driving a black car and wearing a white t-shirt a few blocks down the street. You had nothing to do with it, but it's "more likely than not" than you did based on what the witnesses said. it doesn't mean you're guilty, it just means that (hypothetically) you'll go to trial and the jury will hear the rest of the evidence and determine that. (this is a very simplistic example that would probably not meet the standard, but you get the idea)
So, we don't know what the judge saw or heard, but as I said above, its not very hard to meet the "more likely than not" standard. It may or may not be much, but I guess it'll come out sooner or later. We do know its by "preponderance of the evidence" (which is bad for Busch), but you'd think the D.A. would have filed charges by now.
David Regan is going to replace Kyle in the 18. Eric Jones will pilot the 54.
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 21, 2015, 09:38:50 PM
...The penalty stems from activities last year involving Kurt Busch that resulted in a decision by the Family Court of the State of Delaware to issue an Order of Protection of Abuse against him. The penalty is an indefinite suspension. Earlier today, a three-person National Motorsports Appeals Panel upheld the original penalty assessed by NASCAR.
...remains in effect. He will not be allowed to race nor participate in any NASCAR activities until further notice.
Man, I don't condone this sort of behavoir at all........ BUT, the man hasn't been convicted, or charged, with anything thus far..... So, if he is exonerated, will that mean NASCAR will pay him back his salary and/or rebuild his reputation? I think people here get my point. I'm not his biggest fan, but I haven't loathed him......... Unless.............
Kurt bushes reputation has already been formed a long time ago and it probably part of the decision process.
Quote from: keith88 on February 25, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
Kurt bushes reputation has already been formed a long time ago and it probably part of the decision process.
:iagree:
He may not be convicted but that is between Kurt Busch and the state court. Just Google his name and look at the drama listed on his Wikipedia profile :smilielol: The evidence is clearly not in his favor. I may be wrong but Nascar does not have to allow anyone to race it is a privilege and not a right. Especially, when their rules are violated. Image is everything today!
Quote from: moparnation74 on February 25, 2015, 09:12:07 AM
I may be wrong but Nascar does not have to allow anyone to race it is a privilege and not a right.
One hundred percent correct. Kurt needs NASCAR a lot more than NASCAR needs him. They don't owe him anything.
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 25, 2015, 08:41:11 AM
Man, I don't condone this sort of behavoir at all........ BUT, the man hasn't been convicted, or charged, with anything thus far..... So, if he is exonerated, will that mean NASCAR will pay him back his salary and/or rebuild his reputation? I think people here get my point. I'm not his biggest fan, but I haven't loathed him......... Unless.............
what the last two guys before me said. Technically he doesn't work for NASCAR, he works for SHR and is considered an independent contractor as far as NASCAR is concerned.. As long as NASCAR is following its due process (suspension, appeal, etc) there's really not much he can do against them. It's messed up, but that's long been a point of contention between drivers and NASCAR (that they are considered independent contractors). Even then, its not like they don't have a reasonable motive to suspend him - they're basing it on what the court determined. Like I said earlier, after the Rice fiasco no one is taking chances in what could become a PR nightmare.
When you own the Bat and Ball....you get to make the rules....
One thing I like about NASCAR is that they don't allow their "players" (drivers, and others involved in the sport) to get away with drugs and bad behavior....perhaps the other "stick and ball" sports could learn something from NASCAR. NASCAR is not perfect but at least the sport is not making news on a regular basis due to the players acting like 12 year olds....... :Twocents:
Quote from: wingcar on February 25, 2015, 02:45:48 PM
When you own the Bat and Ball....you get to make the rules....
One thing I like about NASCAR is that they don't allow their "players" (drivers, and others involved in the sport) to get away with drugs and bad behavior
I think that's more out of necessity specific to the sport: you get a driver that's high on something on the track, and he could kill himself and a few other guys too. I guess the argument could be made that a hockey or football player could screw up and fatally injure another player, but that's a lot less likely?
Quoteperhaps the other "stick and ball" sports could learn something from NASCAR. NASCAR is not perfect but at least the sport is not making news on a regular basis due to the players acting like 12 year olds....... :Twocents:
you think so?
Two words for you: Jeremy Mayfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Mayfield#Controversies)
"Not making the news on a regular basis" is more of a reflection of the sport's perennial state as a niche sport that gets very little attention from the media relative to the "big four" (NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL) unless something really good or really bad happens (see: the Tony Stewart incident last year). I mean, the Busch situation would be a huge deal if he was a stick and ball guy...but it largely goes ignored by the media.
In other words, not enough people care to make a big deal out of it. But there have been NASCAR "thugs" and problem children since the beginning. Hell, the fact that it has its roots in moonshiners - the crack dealers of their day- is a source of pride for the sport.
-Junior Johnson did prison time,
-Richard Childress almost got shot running shine,
-Tim Richmond may or may not have knowingly infected someone with AIDS (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-look-back-the-aids-anniversary/),
-the tragic Dick Trickle,
-Rick Hendrick was indicted by the Federal government for bribery and fraud (http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/05/business/a-big-honda-dealer-is-indicted-in-federal-bribery-case.html) and had to get a pardon from Bill Clinton (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/clinton-pardons-nascar-s-hendrick-1.238163).
-Not to mention the bunch of drivers in recent years who've been suspended or kicked out of NASCAR for drug use or been busted DUI.
Boy Scouts they aint, but you know what they say....if a tree falls in the forest and theres no one around...
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2015, 04:48:05 PM
Quote from: wingcar on February 25, 2015, 02:45:48 PM
When you own the Bat and Ball....you get to make the rules....
One thing I like about NASCAR is that they don't allow their "players" (drivers, and others involved in the sport) to get away with drugs and bad behavior
I think that's more out of necessity specific to the sport: you get a driver that's high on something on the track, and he could kill himself and a few other guys too. I guess the argument could be made that a hockey or football player could screw up and fatally injure another player, but that's a lot less likely?
Quoteperhaps the other "stick and ball" sports could learn something from NASCAR. NASCAR is not perfect but at least the sport is not making news on a regular basis due to the players acting like 12 year olds....... :Twocents:
you think so?
Two words for you: Jeremy Mayfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Mayfield#Controversies)
"Not making the news on a regular basis" is more of a reflection of the sport's perennial state as a niche sport that gets very little attention from the media relative to the "big four" (NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL) unless something really good or really bad happens (see: the Tony Stewart incident last year). I mean, the Busch situation would be a huge deal if he was a stick and ball guy...but it largely goes ignored by the media.
In other words, not enough people care to make a big deal out of it. But there have been NASCAR "thugs" and problem children since the beginning. Hell, the fact that it has its roots in moonshiners - the crack dealers of their day- is a source of pride for the sport.
-Junior Johnson did prison time,
-Richard Childress almost got shot running shine,
-Tim Richmond may or may not have knowingly infected someone with AIDS (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-look-back-the-aids-anniversary/),
-the tragic Dick Trickle,
-Rick Hendrick was indicted by the Federal government for bribery and fraud (http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/05/business/a-big-honda-dealer-is-indicted-in-federal-bribery-case.html) and had to get a pardon from Bill Clinton (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/clinton-pardons-nascar-s-hendrick-1.238163).
-Not to mention the bunch of drivers in recent years who've been suspended or kicked out of NASCAR for drug use or been busted DUI.
Boy Scouts they aint, but you know what they say....if a tree falls in the forest and theres no one around...
Always wondered how much the pardon cost Hendricks......... :scratchchin:
The truck and trailer carrying Travis Kvapil's car got stolen this morning :P
QuoteBut there have been NASCAR "thugs" and problem children since the beginning. Hell, the fact that it has its roots in moonshiners - the crack dealers of their day- is a source of pride for the sport.
-Junior Johnson did prison time,
-Richard Childress almost got shot running shine,
-Tim Richmond may or may not have knowingly infected someone with AIDS,
-the tragic Dick Trickle, -
Rick Hendrick was indicted by the Federal government for bribery and fraud and had to get a pardon from Bill Clinton.
-Not to mention the bunch of drivers in recent years who've been suspended or kicked out of NASCAR for drug use or been busted DUI.
Trickle is primarily known and remembered as an honest and hard working racer, especially considering what he overcame to be so successful. Though his demise post-Nascar is certainly tragic, I hate to see him thrown into a list where everyone else is noted for criminal activity (convicted or accused).
***
As far as Nascar's suspension of drivers for criminal activities or any other behaviour that is damaging to the reputation of the sport......... there are a 10 qualified and respected drivers ready to move up right now behind each one that gets suspended. Good for Nascar. This is one thing they are getting right.
Quote from: JB400 on February 27, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
The truck and trailer carrying Travis Kvapil's car got stolen this morning :P
Maybe this Model NASCAR citizen (http://jalopnik.com/warrant-out-for-nascar-driver-who-allegedly-stole-compe-513812231) knows where it is...
Quote from: RallyeMike on February 27, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Trickle is primarily known and remembered as an honest and hard working racer, especially considering what he overcame to be so successful. Though his demise post-Nascar is certainly tragic, I hate to see him thrown into a list where everyone else is noted for criminal activity (convicted or accused).
That's fair.
I guess it still drives the point that NASCAR a) isnt without it's share of flawed/tragic individuals and b) that this is the type of stuff that should make the news but doesnt.
Kvapil's No. 44 Team Xtreme Sprint Cup car stolen
Team Xtreme confirmed Friday that its No. 44 entry for this weekend's race at Atlanta Motor Speedway was stolen in the morning hours outside the team's hotel. Team withdraws from Atlanta race after truck, trailer taken overnight
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/2/27/team-xtreme-sprint-cup-car-stolen-travis-kvapil-atlanta.html (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/2/27/team-xtreme-sprint-cup-car-stolen-travis-kvapil-atlanta.html)
List of drivers who didn't get a chance to qualify for Atlanta race due to failure to pass inspection. Most will start at the tail end: Alex Bowman, Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth, Gordon, Jeb Burton, Reed Sorenson, Cole Whitt, Landon Cassill, Regan Smith, Michael Annett, Jimmie Johnson, Mike Wallace and Matt DiBenedetto
Video of Kvapil's truck getting stolen: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/watch--video-from-hotel-where-hauler-containing-travis-kvapil-s-car-was-223147732.html
Stolen No. 44 race car found in suburban Atlanta
HAMPTON, Ga. (AP) -- Police say they have found the NASCAR race car stolen from a hotel parking lot near Atlanta Motor Speedway.
NASCAR's Team XTREME says the car was found early Saturday northwest of Atlanta in Gwinnett County. The team tweeted a pictured of team owner John Cohen standing in front of the No. 44 Chevrolet, which was valued at $250,000 and appears undamaged.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/2/27/team-xtreme-sprint-cup-car-stolen-travis-kvapil-atlanta.html (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/2/27/team-xtreme-sprint-cup-car-stolen-travis-kvapil-atlanta.html)
Kurt's going to try and get reinstated:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kurt-busch-guidelines-toward-nascar-reinstatement-171637486--nascar.html;_ylt=A0LEVw4lUvVUTOkAwW5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzaHFrNWg5BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVklQMjg0XzEEc2VjA3Nj
I'm sure he will, but the question is, once he is, how long with that last :lol:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-no-charges-nascar-driver-kurt-busch-151845220--spt.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-no-charges-nascar-driver-kurt-busch-151845220--spt.html)
Quote from: Chargen69 on March 05, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-no-charges-nascar-driver-kurt-busch-151845220--spt.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-no-charges-nascar-driver-kurt-busch-151845220--spt.html)
I called it (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40232.msg1443640.html#msg1443640)!
wonder how long till nascar reacts? wish harvick would leave that loser team so I could root for him again. :yesnod:
They should reinstate him immediately and compensate him for his missed appearances in the 500 and at Atlanta. But, they won't.
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
They should reinstate him immediately and compensate him for his missed appearances in the 500 and at Atlanta. But, they won't.
:iagree:
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
They should reinstate him immediately and compensate him for his missed appearances in the 500 and at Atlanta. But, they won't.
Keep in mind that the protective order against him is still in effect, so he hasn't exactly been exonerated. As far as compensation for missed races/appearances..yeah...NO. NASCAR, to its credit, acted prudently and reasonably given the circumstances by suspending him for those races. What if the outcome had been the opposite and charges
had been pressed? Would you feel the same way? NASCAR would have egg on its face if they'd let him keep racing in the meantime.
Again, think of it in terms of what if he was a stick and ball guy...the likely public opinion would be "well, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation in the first place..."
As far as reinstatement, that's not really going to be up to NASCAR as much as it will be up to his team, sponsors, and manufacturers.
Driscoll wanted to destroy his career and she may have done just that, but only time will tell. God knows Kurt's been working towards that end with no help from anyone. In the mean time the question remains...what team would want someone with his past behavior issues? He's already driving for a second tier team, and no first tier team will touch him....plus he's already been through three of those. And, with Chevy stating that they want nothing to do with him, it leaves him with only Ford or Toyota teams as his hope for a ride.
The ways are going for him this year...I don't see his anger management issues going away soon...
I do hope he can overcome all the issues and return to racing, but he has a long road ahead of him and that road has a lot of potholes in it.......
Quote from: wingcar on March 05, 2015, 03:18:55 PM
Driscoll wanted to destroy his career and she may have done just that, but only time will tell. God knows Kurt's been working towards that end with no help from anyone. In the mean time the question remains...what team would want someone with his past behavior issues? He's already driving for a second tier team, and no first tier team will touch him....plus he's already been through three of those. And, with Chevy stating that they want nothing to do with him, it leaves him with only Ford or Toyota teams as his hope for a ride.
The ways are going for him this year...I don't see his anger management issues going away soon...
I do hope he can overcome all the issues and return to racing, but he has a long road ahead of him and that road has a lot of potholes in it.......
Second tier? That team (SHR) just won the Championship last season and 3 years before that as well.
You do make a good point...maybe this latest thing wouldn't have f-ed his career so bad (and NASCAR/Sponsors would have taken it easier on him) were it not for his extensive history of anger/behavior issues. In other words, he did it to himself.
Perhaps, she wants it to look that way :scratchchin: even if it's not true.
On another note, I think he's still employed by SHR, but just not recognized by Chevy. He could still end up back in the 41 after his suspension is lifted.
Kurt still suspended: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/nascar-issues-statement-on-kurt-busch-224517521-nascar.html
Looks like Chevy will back Kurt after NASCAR reinstates him. They are just covering there ass.
Chevrolet Vice President of Performance Vehicles and Motorsports Jim Campbell said the company has not reinstated its personal services agreement with Busch. "Our relationship with Kurt Busch remains unchanged," Campbell said in a statement. "He remains suspended, and we will continue to monitor all aspects of this situation."
Pretty good finish in the Infinity series
yea, I wish Blaney would have put Dillon in the wall after that block
It was so exciting, I slept through most of it. I don't like that track at all. California is just as boring :P
I was lucky enough to just catch the last 30 laps.
It is nice to see the #48 & #24 having a awesome race today :D :smilielol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 08, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
It is nice to see the #48 & #24 having a awesome race today :D :smilielol:
:smilielol: :2thumbs:
good runs for Truex and Newman. kept it exciting at the end. just nothing for the 4.
yea, he outran everyone....when he's on a rail, he's hard to beat
:smilielol: :lol: :smilielol:
:iagree: :yesnod:
Slept through it and missed the whole thing.
:lol:
Keselowski crew chief placed on probation for rest of season
Paul Wolfe on probation for the rest of the 2015 season after NASCAR caught Team Penske pulling out the fenders on Brad Keselowski's car before qualifying at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Keselowski's car was pulled from the qualifying grid right before Friday's session began and sent back to inspection because NASCAR said the fenders by the wheel wells had been flared. It was a point of contention last season as NASCAR did not have a specific rule banning the flared sideskirts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/keselowski-crew-chief-placed-probation-rest-season-030150995--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/keselowski-crew-chief-placed-probation-rest-season-030150995--nascar.html)
I guess NASCAR felt that pulling out the fender made the car look to much like a production car..... :D
For all you Keselowski fans out there... Cheater! :bawling:
I expect another a** kicking from Harvick this w/e!!!!
well that was quick (if true)....
Kurt Busch has been reinstated by NASCAR (http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/kurt-busch-has-been-reinstated-by-nascar-1690802117/+travis)
I'd wait till Nascar themselves says something or Jayski reports it.
EDIT: Fox Sports is now saying it along with Bleacher Report. KURT BUSCH IS BACK!!!!!
Quote from: MoparCharger500 on March 11, 2015, 11:45:04 AM
I'd wait till Nascar themselves says something or Jayski reports it.
hence my "if true" disclaimer :laugh:
Per Jayski:
The following is from Stewart-Haas Racing executive vice president Joe Custer regarding NASCAR's reinstatement of driver Kurt Busch.
"We appreciate the steps Kurt Busch has made while following NASCAR's process for reinstatement. He has taken this path seriously, which allowed him to return to our race team. With his reinstatement and the conclusion by the Delaware Attorney General to not file charges, our focus is on the future."(SHR / TrueSpeed Communications), Stewart-Hass says Busch will return to the #41 this weekend at Phoenix.(3-11-2015)
Hell yea!!!!! This just made my week.
Now the question becomes.....should he win a race this year will NASCAR allow him into the "Chase" since he missed several races....(I would think that they should, all things considered)
Glad to hear Kurt is back :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Time to quit fooling around with the crazy ex girlfriend, and win some races.
Just read that "NASCAR reinstates Kurt Busch; grants him waiver for Chase".....(Good for NASCAR)
Quote from: wingcar on March 11, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
Now the question becomes.....should he win a race this year will NASCAR allow him into the "Chase" since he missed several races....(I would think that they should, all things considered)
He IS chase eligible!!!!!!
AND...
Statement from Chevy on Kurt Busch: Jim Campbell, Chevrolet vice president of Performance Vehicles and Motorsports:
"Now that Kurt Busch has been reinstated by NASCAR and is able to fulfill his obligations associated with our agreement, we have lifted our suspension and will continue to monitor the situation."(Chevy Racing)(3-11-2015)
I hope Kurt makes good choices going forward and his pr team can make some forward progress in his image. :Twocents:
J.J in a lap 3 crash with Brian Vickers. Today just got better already :lol:
:2thumbs:
Another one for Harvek. Kurt Busch didn't even look like he missed a race or 3.
:2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 15, 2015, 08:21:53 PM
Another one for Harvek. Kurt Busch didn't even look like he missed a race or 3.
I'd say Kurt is a little more ambitious right now, being that he was forced out of the car.
Well, I am sure all the crap he went through in the past few months made him grow up a lot more too.
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 16, 2015, 06:59:10 AM
Well, I am sure all the crap he went through in the past few months made him grow up a lot more too.
you can only hope.
Iconic Jesse Jones Hot Dogs are out at Martinsville Speedway, replaced by another brand
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/18/breaking-iconic-jesse-jones-hot-dogs-are-out-at-martinsville-speedway-replaced-by-another-brand/ (http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/18/breaking-iconic-jesse-jones-hot-dogs-are-out-at-martinsville-speedway-replaced-by-another-brand/)
When fans go to the concession stand at Martinsville Speedway next weekend seeking the "Famous Martinsville Speedway Hot Dog," for the first time in nearly seven decades the red hots and chili will not be produced by Jesse Jones Southern Style Hot Dogs, NASCAR Talk has learned.
Calling it a business decision, the track has elected to switch to Valleydale Hot Dogs, a subsidiary of Smithfield Foods, which is a primary sponsor on Richard Petty Motorsports No. 43 Sprint Cup car, driven by Aric Almirola.
But according Clay Campbell, president of Martinsville Speedway, the new hot dog and chili will taste the same as the old standby. And the price will remain at $2 each.
Messing with Martinsville hot dogs is like New Coke. Crews in the garage will be more pissed than any rule change NASCAR could come up with.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 18, 2015, 05:29:11 PM
Messing with Martinsville hot dogs is like New Coke. Crews in the garage will be more pissed than any rule change NASCAR could come up with.
So will the announcers I think :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 18, 2015, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on March 18, 2015, 05:29:11 PM
Messing with Martinsville hot dogs is like New Coke. Crews in the garage will be more pissed than any rule change NASCAR could come up with.
So will the announcers I think :2thumbs:
Hate to say it but crewmen who cared about such things have long since left the sport either voluntarily or have be pushed out. Crews today are mostly ex college athletes who could not make it in baseball or football and display very little interest in the cars or traditions of the sport. Now mess with their WiFi and you might have a problem. :rotz:
The fans are already throwing a fit, and they haven't tried the new hot dogs yet.
This guy can not get a break. :-\
Blood clots again sideline NASCAR driver Brian Vickers
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/blood-clots-again-sideline-nascar-driver-brian-vickers-161737806--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/blood-clots-again-sideline-nascar-driver-brian-vickers-161737806--nascar.html)
Brian Vickers has been sidelined again by blood clots that prevent him from safely driving a race car. Vickers' third bout with blood clots was announced Friday by Michael Waltrip Racing. The team said the 31-year-old has been placed on blood thinners, which make it too dangerous for him to compete. If he is injured, the bleeding would be difficult if not impossible to stop.
''First and foremost our thoughts are with Brian and his family,'' said MWR founder and co-owner Michael Waltrip. ''He isn't just our race car driver, he is our friend and we know the NASCAR community will continue to rally around Brian.''
Brett Moffitt will return to the No. 55 Toyota this weekend at Auto Club Speedway as Vickers' replacement. Moffitt filled in once this season, at Atlanta, where he drove the car to an eighth-place finish.
Sounds as if Brian Vickers luck seems to continue to be bad in regards to his health.
Sorry to hear about him being sidelined again by blood clots. But at least he understands what is truly important in life.
On another note, it appears as if Kurt is on a mission, and it will not be long before he wins a race....I am glad to see him running so well after all he's been through.....
"On another note, it appears as if Kurt is on a mission, and it will not be long before he wins a race....I am glad to see him running so well after all he's been through....."
Would have been yesterday ..if NASCAR had not thrown a phantom caution! ....Oh im sorry did i just say that? :pity:
Marcos Ambrose has apparently lost his touch in the Supercars..
Ambrose asks to be relieved from seat in V8 Supercars
Marcos Ambrose asked to temporarily be replaced as driver in the V8 Supercars Series, Roger Penske said Tuesday. The former NASCAR driver made the request so he can familiarize himself with the cars following his return this year to the series, Penske said. Ambrose won the V8 Supercars championship in 2003 and 2004.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ambrose-asks-relieved-seat-v8-supercars-142828203--spt.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ambrose-asks-relieved-seat-v8-supercars-142828203--spt.html)
Is it the steering wheel being on the right/wrong side that's harting his performance? :slap:
Sad site to see. Lots of photos :rotz:
Inside the abandoned NASCAR track that has crumbled into a eerie ruin after sitting empty for four years
North Wilkesboro Speedway in North Carolina was a mainstay on NASCAR circuit from 1949 until September 1996
But now, it lies empty after being sold in 1996, briefly reopening in 2010, then closing again in the spring of 2011
Pictures of legendary track were captured by photojournalist Seph Lawless as part of 'Autopsy of America' project
They show faded racetrack signs, thousands of vacant seats, buildings with damaged ceilings and stained ground
The site 'now sits eerily silent and completely abandoned. It was apocalyptic,' Seph Lawless told Daily Mail Online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3006376/It-s-apocalyptic-Photojournalist-captures-striking-photos-abandoned-NASCAR-track-sat-four-years.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3006376/It-s-apocalyptic-Photojournalist-captures-striking-photos-abandoned-NASCAR-track-sat-four-years.html)
Looks like the track is in better shape than Nascar is
Sad with all the history connected to the track that it has become abandon. When you first look at the track it appears to be an easy fix to bring it back, but then when you see the pictures of the various buildings and that appears not to be the case. It would take a lot of money and effort to restore the track and make it once again usable. But, with little hope of getting a NASCAR "track race date" what would be the point. Maybe someday it will reopen for one of the lower race series, but I don't see that happening....it's basically lost history. :'( (Would love to take my car around the track once...at a low speed of course for pictures).
Quote from: wingcar on March 24, 2015, 08:06:28 AM
Sad with all the history connected to the track that it has become abandon. When you first look at the track it appears to be an easy fix to bring it back, but then when you see the pictures of the various buildings and that appears not to be the case. It would take a lot of money and effort to restore the track and make it once again usable. But, with little hope of getting a NASCAR "track race date" what would be the point. Maybe someday it will reopen for one of the lower race series, but I don't see that happening....it's basically lost history. :'( (Would love to take my car around the track once...at a low speed of course for pictures).
This was my first and second thoughts.......easy....then a lot of work.....
But looking at it a third time......I think it'd be reasonably doable. The basics are there......seems cheaper then building a new track.
But......as you mentioned......no real hope of getting a cup date. It's simply too small to generate $$$$ for that even if one was available.
I'd love to see it reopen......lower series to help pay the bills and keep the history alive. I can see some promotional potential with it's history, and what an awesome place for "nostalgia" race/show events! :yesnod:
[just need the right lottery numbers]
I remember seeing some really good races there,they need more short tracks not less. But it is looking pretty run down at this point and i herd that they just couldn't the the numbers needed and wouldn't be able to add seats if they did ..to bad I know i for one miss the races there.
After the death of track owner Enoch Staley, Wilkesboro was purchased by Bruton Smith and Bob Bahre for the sole purpose of moving its race dates to Texas and New Hampshire. The track is technically for sale today, but at such a high price, there are no takers.
While it was a relic from the past, the track uphill / downhill layout itself offers a nice change from the cookie cutter mile and a half Charlotte clones.
Ghosts of North Wilkesboro. Best article I have read about the track.
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/3/4/8126311/north-wilkesboro-speedway-after-nascar (http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/3/4/8126311/north-wilkesboro-speedway-after-nascar)
more
http://www.weather.com/travel/news/abandoned-nascar-seph-lawless
Quote from: Aero426 on March 24, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
After the death of track owner Enoch Staley, Wilkesboro was purchased by Bruton Smith and Bob Bahre for the sole purpose of moving its race dates to Texas and New Hampshire. The track is technically for sale today, but at such a high price, there are no takers.
While it was a relic from the past, the track uphill / downhill layout itself offers a nice change from the cookie cutter mile and a half Charlotte clones.
Isn't it something like 10 or12 million "they" are after ? Rockingham is in HUGELY better shape and they expect around 5 million when that sale goes through and someone is talking about a Veterans rehab center going in there and somehow racing could be involved..
WOW Newman busted big time for cheating. :smilielol:
Lambert has been fined a total of $125,000 ($75,000 plus $50,000), suspended from the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship races, plus any non-championship races or special events which might occur during that time period, and been placed on NASCAR probation through Dec. 31. James Bender, team tire technician, and Philip Surgen, team engineer, have been suspended from the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship races, plus any non-championship races or special events which might occur during that time period, and been placed on NASCAR probation through Dec. 31. :slap:
Newman and car owner Childress were docked 75 points each. The penalty dropped Newman from sixth to 27th in the standings.
http://news.yahoo.com/nascar-finds-ryan-newmans-race-team-manipulated-tires-205759836--spt.html (http://news.yahoo.com/nascar-finds-ryan-newmans-race-team-manipulated-tires-205759836--spt.html)
Its only cheating if you get caught…otherwise it’s just looking for that competitive edge…..
(However, everyone in NASCAR knows the three areas you do not mess with under any circumstances: Engine, Fuel and Tires… If a team decides to try for that competitive edge in one of these areas…they deserves the penalty they get….because they have been warned multiple times)
*Makes you wonder about his (Newman) performance last year and his "almost" winning the championship....was the team cheating at that time?
Is the entire engine so harshly enforced though? I thought the big 3 were traditionally displacement, fuel, and tires.
I have never really understood the big deal over fuel either (at least aside from nitrous oxide). They're not making the teams run anything resembling regular pump gas. So why do they arbitrarily pick something exotic for everyone to use, but then get so upset about anyone trying to vary it further? I'm not sure what the harm would be in letting the teams run whatever they want for fuel.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on April 02, 2015, 01:32:48 AM
Is the entire engine so harshly enforced though? I thought the big 3 were traditionally displacement, fuel, and tires.
I have never really understood the big deal over fuel either (at least aside from nitrous oxide). They're not making the teams run anything resembling regular pump gas. So why do they arbitrarily pick something exotic for everyone to use, but then get so upset about anyone trying to vary it further? I'm not sure what the harm would be in letting the teams run whatever they want for fuel.
better fuel, higher octane = more horsepower = possible advantage. remember the Waltrip use of jet fuel during Daytona qualifying a few years back.
People are smart at finding little tweaks to make little advantages :2thumbs:
The big discussion on satellite radio (NASCAR Channel) is whether or not NASCAR has a culture of cheating that dates back to the very beginnings of the sport and if that is what is hurting the sport in the long run. I have heard some petty interesting comments regarding the subject and just wanted to get others take on the issue.
My question is, when does looking for grey areas in the rule book (and perhaps "bending the rules a bit"), cease being simply "looking for the competitive edge", and becomes a case of creating? I ask because I feel all teams that are truly competitive have in the past and still to this day do it....it's the nature of the beast and has been from day one. If you are not looking for that competitive edge, then you are not giving it 100%. It's just that each year the rule book becomes a little bigger and the challenge becomes greater to actually find an area that can be improved upon without bring NASCAR down on your head. Plus, NASCAR has in place a process that teams can use to get something they may have developed on their own approved for racing. Of course in due time whatever the team developed will eventually become known to other teams and they will also benefit. But, for a short time they can use the advantage to their best interest.
*Anyway, just my two cents...what do you think?
Quotebetter fuel, higher octane = more horsepower = possible advantage. remember the Waltrip use of jet fuel during Daytona qualifying a few years back.
People are smart at finding little tweaks to make little advantages 2thumbs
I understand NASCAR wanting to control the speeds of the cars. But why make a fuel rule? I don't see a certain kind of fuel being more or less dangerous in the big picture. Why not just let the teams run whatever they want and not have to police something difficult like that? Everyone will quickly settle on running a very similar mix anyway. If NASCAR wants/needs to slow the cars down there are plenty of more practical ways to do it.
Nascar wants to keep as much control over the whole situation as possible.
Because na$car wants the big dollar sponsors to believe that any of the 43 cars can win because the cars are all equal. :nana:
NASCAR wants everyone to think it's equal. But they want everyone thinking the teams can control how they build their own cars. And that it's not a spec car everyone is running. So much contradiction all the time.
Tough luck for Paul Menard tonight.
i actually started rooting for logano to win in order to keep a hendrick car off the top, but Harvick was having nothing of letting a non hendrick car survive in the top 3. :brickwall:
cant stand logano, but have more dislike for hendrick motorsports. the lesser of two evils i guess. and then joey couldnt be baited into saying something about the bump.
:iagree:
Drivers get a digital dashboard for next year, and a few races this year. http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/4/14/8417539/nascar-drivers-digital-dashboards
That's great until they fail and you loose all the gauges instead on just one
It's hard to gauge which would be better....LOL
Ok, maybe it will help with "gauge overload"
race is back on. FS1 denny Hamlin out with a sore neck.
Was a good race for once. Plenty of action too. I'm soooooo happy Kenseth won and not the 24 & 48 cars.
that's right. wild at the end. kenseth held them off. :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on April 19, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
Was a good race for once. Plenty of action too. I'm soooooo happy Kenseth won and not the 24 & 48 cars.
:yesnod:
Any race is a good one when Jimmie doesn't win.... :icon_smile_big:
Nice to see a different driver taking the victory......
:'( :'( :'( Steve Burns passes today. Godspeed Steve, you were one of the best...
It's going to be hard watching the pre-race stuff Sunday
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/steve-byrnes-update-passes-away-age-56-race-hub-042115 (http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/steve-byrnes-update-passes-away-age-56-race-hub-042115)
He will be missed by all......he has taken that final checked flag....
It makes last week's race all the more poignant.....
God be with his family and friends at this time......
At least he got to watch the race dedicated to him at Bristol. He got to see how much of an impact in the sport the had.
very sad to hear.
Today's Cup race cancelled due to rain until Sunday, April 26th at 1PM eastern time on Fox
Glad to see Kurt win this one. McMurray got a top 5 as well. :2thumbs:
yea, Good to see Kurt win
Quote from: A383Wing on April 26, 2015, 03:31:21 PM
yea, Good to see Kurt win
:2thumbs:
He's always been a threat in the 1 mile and less short tracks.
Go Daddy leaves Danica's car, but stays with Danica herself next year:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2015/04/29/danica-patrick-losing-godaddy-nascar-sponsor/26563937/
Anyone see the ARCA race at Talledega? Nasty wreck: http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/5/1/8533047/2015-nascar-talladega-arca-driver-hospital-accident
Yes, I was watching the race. One scary looking wreck :o
the Busch race today at Talladega is a wreck fest....
Only sad part was when Logano won :P
yea, I know..... :flame:
Well, it didn't take MW long to find trouble :hah:
need to take out his brother also, tired of his mouth as well
Pretty bad when most of the drivers are fine and content with their finishing position when it's 10 laps to go. :icon_smile_blackeye: At least Hamlin made a little bit of a move towards the end.
Tony tried, but nobody would go with him
I am happy Jr won today ;D :2thumbs:
:cheers: :iagree:
:iagree:
THIS is something they never mentioned at the race that I heard. Makes Jr's win more sweet. The story is a good read. :yesnod:
Earnhardt crew chief stays put on injured daughter's orders
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/earnhardt-crew-chief-stays-put-injured-daughters-orders-234230541--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/earnhardt-crew-chief-stays-put-injured-daughters-orders-234230541--nascar.html)
Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s crew chief, Greg Ives, couldn't get clearance to head home after his daughter broke her arm. It was fine with his driver, but 8-year-old Payton Ives would have none of that. She had surgery Saturday night to repair a broken arm, leaving the proud dad marveling at her toughness even as he celebrated Earnhardt's victory Sunday at Talladega Superspeedway.
JR :cheers: :2thumbs: :popcrn: :drool5:
Kyle Busch returns to driving duty this weekend:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/kyle-busch-to-return-for-sprint-all-star-race-144802395.html
this is good, Kurt Busch's ex in trouble with the Federal Government
http://sportsandgoal.com/nascar/whoa-mind-blowing-update-on-patricia-driscoll-this-is-pathetic/
So he was telling the truth about her....
Good to see Kyle back.
Jeff Gordon going to FOX next year might be cool.
Was a good Indy 500 until Montoya won it.....(shit)
Didn't get to watch the 500, but glad to see Darian Grubb get the win for the 19 team and we got to see the backflip from Edwards. Oh, and Johnson knocking the left front off the car was icing on the cake :rofl:
:iagree:
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yep, I gotta follow suit. glad the 19 won and the back flip still good to see. into the stands with the flag also. and Johnsons mishaps made the race. :2thumbs:
MRN Radio does a better job covering the race than the tv guys do.
no comment from me about today's race other than it sucked
J.J.'s car went through inspection 3 times this morning, and has already failed 3 times, lol. Still in the inspection boot at this time. one hour before the race :lol:
Logano starting in he back too due to a gear change :2thumbs:
Great win for the Denver based crew! :2thumbs:
yea, so happy for Truex...he deserved that win....
Yes he did! :2thumbs:
goin to the Nascar Camping World Truck Series race today at Gateway Motorsports Park. last year was awesome, so can't wait for the festivities to begin today. :yesnod:
The Xfinity race is so much better with the mute button engaged
Quote from: nvrbdn on June 13, 2015, 08:01:16 AM
goin to the Nascar Camping World Truck Series race today at Gateway Motorsports Park. last year was awesome, so can't wait for the festivities to begin today. :yesnod:
stand up and wave for us to see you
great race. 2 rain delays cancelled qualifying and put the start to 9;30 or so. hated seeing jones spin. then crafton wrecked. made an exciting finish though.
here is a pic of the burn out. :2thumbs:
Well, Kyle went and did it...he won a race and if he can post top 10's in the remaining races....he's in the Chase.
People on NASCAR Radio are already having a fit over the prosect of a Champion who missed about a third of the season.....oh well...
(Personally, as long as Jimmie doesn't win, I really don't care...but then I really don't care that much about NASCAR anymore...)
Honestly, I'm glad to see Kyle win it. Also, it was the last race for the Waltrips. I might be able to enjoy a race now, and actually sit and watch it.
if he can get into the chase by missing a third of the races due to his accident at Daytona....that just proves he's better than all the others that have run the full schedule and can't get in
I was glad to see him win....he still has the drive, more power to him
I guess the 55 cars strategy is if ya can't beat them, beat up on them....Regan was as ass yesterday
Quote from: JB400 on June 29, 2015, 08:31:28 AM
Honestly, I'm glad to see Kyle win it. Also, it was the last race for the Waltrips. I might be able to enjoy a race now, and actually sit and watch it.
Now that they are putting Larry Mac out to pasture I might tune in a time or two in the future.
Ok, so I missed something here, I know nothing about the last race for the Waltrip's and Larry Mac :shruggy:
I just though Gorden was joining all of them in the booth?
last race for the waltrip boys until next year....it's mid season, changing of the guard
The races are now on an NBC based channel instead of a Fox based one. Different announcers.
Ohhhhh.. I thought you ment they were leaving Fox for ever :lol: Never mind, I knew that :P
I wish the Waltrip motor-mouth boys would go away forever....I'm tired of listening to them....but then again, I think Jeff Gordon's whiny voice might be just as bad, or worse
Quote from: A383Wing on June 30, 2015, 08:34:01 AM
I wish the Waltrip motor-mouth boys would go away forever....I'm tired of listening to them....but then again, I think Jeff Gordon's whiny voice might be just as bad, or worse
I tend to agree about Gordon, not looking forward to that. DW doesn't bother me much, Mikey is an idiot.
The rainbow returns: http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a25961/jeff-gordon-is-once-again-the-rainbow-warrior/
Quote from: grdprx on June 30, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on June 30, 2015, 08:34:01 AM
I wish the Waltrip motor-mouth boys would go away forever....I'm tired of listening to them....but then again, I think Jeff Gordon's whiny voice might be just as bad, or worse
I tend to agree about Gordon, not looking forward to that. DW doesn't bother me much, Mikey is an idiot.
DW doesn't bother me either..... other then the boogity boogity crap :P Mikey :eek2: I saw when Gorden did the Xfinity races, and I thought he did pretty good.
How convenient: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/goodbye-fox--it-s-nbc-s-turn-to-broadcast-the-sprint-cup-series-154058962.html
They hit the nail on the head. :yesnod:
:iagree:
And, now without Fox Sports 1 in the mix, perhaps those that have basic or no cable will be able to see races that they would otherwise miss.............Good bye Fox....Hello NBC, please learn something from the other guys....
Quote from: wingcar on July 01, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
:iagree:
And, now without Fox Sports 1 in the mix, perhaps those that have basic or no cable will be able to see races that they would otherwise miss.............Good bye Fox....Hello NBC, please learn something from the other guys....
With only 7 of the 20 races on NBC over the air, the other 13 races are on NBCSN. How is this any different than FS1? Perhaps I am missing something.
Quote from: Aero426 on July 01, 2015, 02:46:50 PM
With only 7 of the 20 races on NBC over the air, the other 13 races are on NBCSN. How is this any different than FS1? Perhaps I am missing something.
Really? I didn't know that. Guess I won't be watching Nascar much then if at all the rest of the season, because I don't get that channel either :P :eyes:
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 01, 2015, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on July 01, 2015, 02:46:50 PM
With only 7 of the 20 races on NBC over the air, the other 13 races are on NBCSN. How is this any different than FS1? Perhaps I am missing something.
Really? I didn't know that. Guess I won't be watching Nascar much then if at all the rest of the season, because I don't get that channel either :P :eyes:
I missed that part as well.....perhaps it's for the best as I should be using my time to work on my Charger....not sitting in front of the TV.....Thank you NASCAR, and NBC.
I can't remember the last time I sat and watched a race. It might have been in April, but not for sure. All I know is, I'm not missing much. I can get all the info in the sports section of the news.
The real NASCAR ceased to exist after I'd say 1970. Now it's just a corporation and the "fans" are nothing but $$. The latest PC move proves it. Look at the stands at most races, they're not 100% full. People don't want to spend money on something that is not exciting or even fun anymore. Now, the fans that would come because it was something started in the South and spend tons of $$, are being shoved out the door because of what? A few fanatics seeing/reading something into what happened and who did it? Ah forget it(said disgustingly), most people in this country anymore have closed minds. I will close with this, I only joined this site for the info on Chargers but I grew to want to possibly meet some members and hang out etc with them. Now I don't know. :rotz:
Watching cup practice, and they just had about a 15 car pile up. K. Busch, Biffle, Edwards, McMurry, Truex, Hamlin, and a few others.
wreck was Brad K's fault.....
Surprisingly, coverage seems pretty good. The announcers aren't all that bad either.
Quote from: JB400 on July 03, 2015, 02:50:40 PM
Surprisingly, coverage seems pretty good. The announcers aren't all that bad either.
:iagree:
Quote from: JB400 on July 03, 2015, 02:50:40 PM
Surprisingly, coverage seems pretty good. The announcers aren't all that bad either.
definitely a fresh change of pace from DW's ridiculous stuttering and boogity crap.
12:35 in the morning by me, and I been watching the Nascar race which is just past half way, and they just had their 3rd major "big one" multi car wreck. Not to many cars running without damage now or even left running at this point, lol. This one started back like 7th position. Some of these guys already were in one of the other two wrecks. Edwards got hit so hard in the second one, that he got lifted completely off the track, and was on top of the 33 car completely for a few seconds. That was his second wreck of the night, and is out of the race at this point. Dale jr & the 48 car are swapping for the lead.
#3 CAR WENT INTO THE CATCH FENCE ON THE LAST LAP IN A HUGE WRECK but Dilion walked away. The car was totally ripped apart. Several team crew member ran to the car. The car went from 190mph to 0 in a second when hitting the fence.
:brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall: They pretty much just let him win. Hoping the Bayne would have been more of a factor after the gwc.
Hope everyone in the stands is ok. :o
3 fans were hurt they just said. I thought the car went into the stands for a second
I'm surprised the catch fence held up as good as it did. It took a direct hit, unlike other incidents. That ranks up there with the Bobby Allison accident.
He went over the 11 cars front wheel launching him all the way across the track into the fence, wow :o
Did you see Stewart? He drove under him entirely, and never hit him. Several cars did actually.
Minor injuries to the fans. Good news there.
Yes I did! WOW! Brad K. nailed Dillon last. Holy crap. He is going to be very sore later. And yes, very good news about the fans :2thumbs:
Only 3 of the top 27 cars were NOT in that last wreck :o
BIG ONE #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIKmjPNP_AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIKmjPNP_AI)
BIG ONE #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPRb3an1jM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPRb3an1jM)
BIG ONE #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfP4I3AlzOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfP4I3AlzOA)
BIG ONE ON LAST LAP, #3 CAR IN THE FENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNOuQZIpjM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNOuQZIpjM)
24 car wreck :o Hate to say it, but they need to break up the pack racing, and set up a double fence.
Here's an article with a camera in the stands :o as well as Stewart's view. A clear view of BK hitting Dillon
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/7/6/8899773/2015-coke-zero-400-nascar-daytona-austin-dillon-crash
Dillon suffers bruised arm and tailbone.
I don't know, there was no "pack" racing when Bobby Allison did that at Talladega years ago. My guess is, they will just try to slow the cars down more which will not solve the problem. There is no sure way to keep the cars from going airborne. This was more/less like a open wheel racing type of accident where one cars wheel launched him up and over. The only real solution is to stop racing all together or make the cars go less then 20mph.
BTW - If anyone is just reading this, go back to the last page and read from there. More videos there also. ;)
Quote from: JB400 on July 06, 2015, 02:05:50 AM
24 car wreck :o Hate to say it, but they need to break up the pack racing, and set up a double fence.
the fence held that car out as it should, but what happens if it was more than one car going up there?
If another car hit the exact same spot, it'd be ugly. Here's pix of the hole in the fence:
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/06/see-photos-of-daytona-catch-fence-damaged-by-austin-dillons-car-in-vicious-crash/
since those cables are so strong, why dont they put some more in the gaps of the ones they have?
You have still allow visibility to the track. Fencing does obscure that some.
It seems like the big issue is that the car shredded the hurricane fencing in the process of getting stopped by the heavy cables. Maybe those two things need to be separated by several feet.
I'm picturing a very open loose mesh of thick cables to stop the car first. Then a tighter & thinner mesh of cables/fencing about 10 feet farther back to stop the debris that gets past the heavy cables.
Somebody commented that the tracks shouldn't be selling seats way down near the fence in the first place. It's not a very good place to see the race.
I'll agree with the seating. Even at the local tracks, very few fans sit that close. This isn't basketball. International Speedway should be taking quite a few of the seats out at the lower levels.
As far as the fencing, I have no idea. It actually looked like most of the debris came from the fencing itself, and not Dillons' car. I wasn't there, so can't actually tell for sure.
In a never ending quest to make for better competition Kentucky should be interesting with the rear spoiler reduced to just 3 1/2". Also the front wicker and the radiator pan has been drastically reduced in size. Then they are going in the opposite direction at Indy with a 9 inch spoiler with a forward facing wicker and a superspeedway tail extension to create more drag.
interesting
Quote from: Stevearino on July 07, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
In a never ending quest to make for better competition Kentucky should be interesting with the rear spoiler reduced to just 3 1/2". Also the front wicker and the radiator pan has been drastically reduced in size. Then they are going in the opposite direction at Indy with a 9 inch spoiler with a forward facing wicker and a superspeedway tail extension to create more drag.
Early 1990's, look how the rear spoiler blade is laid back for that rules package. Hang on!
Quote from: Aero426 on July 07, 2015, 12:34:27 PM
Quote from: Stevearino on July 07, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
In a never ending quest to make for better competition Kentucky should be interesting with the rear spoiler reduced to just 3 1/2". Also the front wicker and the radiator pan has been drastically reduced in size. Then they are going in the opposite direction at Indy with a 9 inch spoiler with a forward facing wicker and a superspeedway tail extension to create more drag.
Early 1990's, look how the rear spoiler blade is laid back for that rules package. Hang on!
0 degrees for qualifying 5 degrees for racing. Today it's 70 degrees which is stall angle for creating downforce. Any more angle and all you get is drag.
heard austin dillion say that they could have good racing without the speed for liftoff.
does he understand that would mean they would be racing at 150mph or less?
I don't see what was wrong with the tandem draft racing. I actually enjoyed it. I forget which race it was, but it was at Talledega. Last lap. Last corner. Two cars had went tandem, got way out in the lead, and then the 2nd car pulled out from behind the first, and it was a drag race to the finish line. That made for a nice race. Of course, it wasn't Jr. or Johnson that won it, so I guess it wasn't that good of a race. But, I enjoyed it.
Quoteheard austin dillion say that they could have good racing without the speed for liftoff.
does he understand that would mean they would be racing at 150mph or less?
The aerodynamic lift on those hurtling cars would go up exponentially like the air resistance does. Just going from 200mph down to 180 is probably a real difference.
Sad news: Buddy Baker hit with inoperable lung cancer. Leaves radio show.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nascar-auto-racing/thatsracin/article26714491.html
You beat me to it, and yes it is. Always will be one of my favorite drivers :'(
He is a "class act", and we will miss hearing his unique voice and insights on the radio.....God Bess you Buddy
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 07, 2015, 10:34:57 PM
Quoteheard austin dillion say that they could have good racing without the speed for liftoff.
does he understand that would mean they would be racing at 150mph or less?
The aerodynamic lift on those hurtling cars would go up exponentially like the air resistance does. Just going from 200mph down to 180 is probably a real difference.
there would be a difference, but i thought he said something like without the chance of going airborne
This time, a Craftsman Truck went into the fence at Kentucky. Not as violent as Dillon's. Also, I don't think the flag ban is working too well
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/7/9/8925941/2015-nascar-kentucky-ben-kennedy-truck-series-catchfence-accident
That truck was ripped open
:o wow!
I'm not sure why everyone is acting surprised/concerned about these fence hits all of a sudden.
The cars have been basically this fast & heavy & able to go airborne since Lyndon Johnson was president. This isn't the 1st, 2nd, or even the 10th time a fence has been hit. These weren't even very direct/hard hits in the big picture. If NASCAR is surprised at the current fence's performance then they must have never tested it at all.
What's next? "NASCAR is deeply concerned about several recent incidents of fans abusing alcohol during the race"?
If memory serves me correctly, it hasn't actually been all that common since the BK/ Edwards feud a few years ago with the CoT car.
Lets talk Kyle Busch. With his win in Kentucky tonight, will he make the Chase?
at the rate he's going after his comeback....looks like he's gonna be hard to beat....
I don't understand why they don't just say his car is already in on owners points?
its listed 19th in owners points
http://www.jayski.com/stats/2015/pdfs/18ken2015owners.pdf
KB did not get the car to 19th in owners points...it was a combination of all the other drivers that got it there while he was sidelined....Only KB can get in on drivers points for the chase
I'm actually hoping Kyle gets in. It wasn't his fault he got hurt. Only bad thing is, he usually ends up flopping once he's in. Maybe, this year will be different.
On another note, Kenny Wallace is calling it quits on his professional driving career:
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/14/kenny-wallace-announces-nascar-retirement-after-aug-1-xfinity-race-at-iowa/
That makes Mike Wallace the only brother left.
It's been a while since Kenny has drove in a race anyway isn't it? I don't remember the last time I saw him in one :shruggy:
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 15, 2015, 06:24:41 AM
It's been a while since Kenny has drove in a race anyway isn't it? I don't remember the last time I saw him in one :shruggy:
He's done a few Xfinity starts this year. By a couple tweets I read, it sounds like he is not completely retiring from all driving and will continue his dirt car program.
Quote from: A383Wing on July 12, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
KB did not get the car to 19th in owners points...it was a combination of all the other drivers that got it there while he was sidelined....Only KB can get in on drivers points for the chase
So what your saying is owners points don't count towards getting into the chase?
But it does matter in the two lower series where they usually have an owners champion and a driver champion at the end of the year..
Quote from: thedodgeboys on July 15, 2015, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 12, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
KB did not get the car to 19th in owners points...it was a combination of all the other drivers that got it there while he was sidelined....Only KB can get in on drivers points for the chase
So what your saying is owners points don't count towards getting into the chase?
But it does matter in the two lower series where they usually have an owners champion and a driver champion at the end of the year..
Driver points are the only ones that count towards the Chase or driver championship.
Owner points are used to determine who is guaranteed to start the race in the event of a poor qualifying result. There probably are also monies awarded at end of season depending where a team finishes in owner points.
And KB wins again...that's 3 wins out of the last 4 cup races
KB first, BK second
I think I am starting to loose interest in Nascar too now. I'm tired of the same people winning every week. It is getting to be like a re-run tv show you see every week.. On the other side of that, the fan base must agree with half filled stands :P
me too. :yesnod:
Trucks are racing at Eldora dirt track now...Ken Schrader is even gonna be racing.....
I never heard anything about it until I read the post about it. It's nice they really advertised it being in the middle of the week :P
that right there is why NASCAR should NEVER consider midweek races
The mid week race date was to get some Cup drivers. I think they have run this event during the week all three years.
Yes, it's been on Wednesday nights every year....
i meant to say for CUP races
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 24, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
i meant to say for CUP races
I have never seen a CUP race on any night other than Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.....unless a race was postponed until Monday due to weather, or the Budweiser duels at Daytona that are usually held on Thursdays
If this is the third year of this race, lol, I only seen the one 2 years ago then :P
Kyle is on fire.
I turned off the race after he took the white flag. Just another tv repeat :P
Half filled stands too at Indy, lol :rotz:
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on July 26, 2015, 06:15:33 PM
Kyle is on fire.
yea, he's on a mission..he has to get max points every race to make the chase....I'm rooting for him to do it
as long as Gordon or Johnson doesn't win. I'm happy
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 26, 2015, 06:50:26 PM
I turned off the race after he took the white flag. Just another tv repeat :P
Half filled stands too at Indy, lol :rotz:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :cheers: :cheers: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Quote from: A383Wing on July 24, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 24, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
i meant to say for CUP races
I have never seen a CUP race on any night other than Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.....unless a race was postponed until Monday due to weather, or the Budweiser duels at Daytona that are usually held on Thursdays
what i was talking about was that several drivers were pushing (as recently as last year) like Brad K, to have a mid week race and "shorten" the race year so they are not racing from February til November, my point was, the fact that so many people werent expecting a midweek race at eldora and missed it, is a good reason not to ever consider running a mid week cup race.
it is hard enough to fill the stands and get people to tune in on a saturday or sunday. wednesday would be stupid
Kyle is on a mission to prove something.....I wish him the best and hope he does make the Chase. Actually it would be something if he did win the Chase this year after all that's happened to him.
Bottomline for me is..I am fine with his winning basically everything in sight, so long as Johnson doesn't.... :yesnod:
:iagree: exactly
Kyle sucks along with all Toyotas.
Good thing the grand stands were empty!
Nascar is collapsing faster than previously thought. :shruggy:
I am surprised at the number of people who do not seem to care a whit about that particular kind of Brand X car in victory lane.
One thing I have never seen at the track is a fan wearing a Toyota shirt. You see Ford shirts. You see Chevy shirts. You see driver shirts.
On the empty stands, it sure looked bad.
Quote from: odcics2 on July 27, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
Nascar is collapsing faster than previously thought. :shruggy:
I'm thinking so
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 27, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on July 27, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
Nascar is collapsing faster than previously thought. :shruggy:
I'm thinking so
IMS has gotten poor reviews from a competition standpoint for a several years now. Not the easiest place to watch a race. Passing has been a problem. I am sure that is what is keeping some away. Ticket prices are pretty reasonable. General admission for $30 bucks (!) and you can watch from the infield viewing berms. I had high seats reserved on the exit of turn 4 for $72, but did not pull the trigger on Saturday afternoon. We almost drove down to see it because of the late afternoon start.
If they could get the cars to be able to draft up and pass... I don't know what the answer is.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 27, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on July 27, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
Nascar is collapsing faster than previously thought. :shruggy:
I'm thinking so
Your right doesn't look good. :rotz:
NASCAR has had issues for some time. They like many other sports have seen a downturn in attendance due to the economy and other factors. It hasn't happened over night, but a lot of the "fixes" they implemented only served to drive away some of the older fan base. And, many of the younger fans don't seem as interested in automobiles in general and don't want to sit for upwards of four hours without being connected to their electric devices. The hay day for NASCAR is over and I personally do not see it ever returning to the levels it once was. Will it fold...no, its big business and they will keep on moving into the future. They will face many more challenges as they fight for their piece of the sports fan revenue. The NASCAR of today, may not be the NASCAR of tomorrow....
Having lost their main star in Dale Earnhardt Sr. several years ago and the retirement of the old guard before that with Richard, David, Darrel, Mark...etc., means that many of the names recognized by the non racing fan/public are gone...replaced by people that those outside the sport don't know. And, sorry to those that like him, but Earnhardt Jr. is popular only because of his namesake. Plus, many of today's NASCAR "young guns" appear at times to be nothing more than spoiled rich kids who don't realize how lucky they really are to be in the sport. Perception is everything to the general public.
Jimmie Johnson may just be the greatest driver they have ever had, but he will never be another Richard Petty, no matter how many championships he wins. NASCAR no longer belongs to those that made it a mainstream sport all those years ago, and in many ways it no longer belongs to the fans that supported the sport back in the day.
I for one am glad that many of the races are now on "special" sports channels as I am not wasting time sitting in front of the TV for hours watching a race. And, I have no intention of "upgrading" my cable package just to see a NASCAR race...it's not worth it. And, you know what....I found that I really don't miss being able to see races....life continues! I do tune in to the NASCAR channel on Sirius XM radio come Monday just to see who won...and you know what, that's all the NASCAR I need.
I guess I am just old school, and I do enjoy reading about and watching the old races....when NASCAR was at least a bit closer to "stockcar" racing. Today it's all special bodies and decals...and NASCAR seems to have lost direction and I don't see how constantly changing the rules is helping much.
If you enjoy today's NASCAR that's great, as for me...I'll be out in the garage Sunday afternoons working on my "stockcar" (my street Charger).
Just my two cents for what's it worth.... :Twocents:
Lots of good points. The economy has bounced back big time, but the nascar fan base didn't. :Twocents:
Quote from: odcics2 on July 28, 2015, 03:05:12 PM
Lots of good points. The economy has bounced back big time, but the nascar fan base didn't. :Twocents:
All forms of traditional racing as we have known them have the problem of an aging fan base. There may be an element of "been there, done that". When you see names like Ganassi, Andretti and Bryan Herta fielding teams in Global Rallycross, that is an attempt to reach the younger audience they aren't getting elsewhere.
If you think NASCAR attendance is bad, look at the Fontana Indy Car race bringing 5000 people (or less). Milwaukee wasn't great with maybe 15,000 in the stands, less than half full.
The fractured TV schedule certainly makes the sport harder for the casual fan to follow when you have to work to figure out what channel it's on. I think this is less of a concern to NASCAR as long as they are getting the HUGE revenues from the networks. Splitting it between the different networks gets NASCAR more money than working with just one provider.
Excellent article by a former NASCAR beat writer worth reading.
http://www.competitionplus.com/cp-motorsports/cp-motorsports-monte-dutton-%E2%80%93-the-roots-are-on-life-support?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork (http://www.competitionplus.com/cp-motorsports/cp-motorsports-monte-dutton-%E2%80%93-the-roots-are-on-life-support?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork)
"At least 20 years ago, I arrived at the view that, if a business bases 80 percent of its actions on the sole goal of making more money, it will probably succeed, but if it makes every single decision on that basis, it will come back to bite. Every sport is making this mistake. NASCAR obviously wants to be the trendsetter. The Conniver of Record.
Take, for instance, the sport's chief investment, the tearing down of grandstands. The prevailing explanation is "rebuilding our brand." The English translation is, "If we reduce the capacity, it will increase the market value of the remaining seats."
I would take the opposite tack. I would note that young fans of NASCAR are an endangered species."
Just finished reading Monte's take on NASCAR (The acticle Aero426 posted)....it appears as if the two of us were on the same page as he said many of the things I stated.....
Sadly, I don't see the cure for the lack of attendence or interest in NASCAR. Then again if I did have the "cure" I'd be working in Daytona at one of the NASCAR offices.......
The fix for Nascar: Ditch the common template, and go back to the offset bodies. Give the teams the leeway to creativity and innovation. Best team that day, wins, not the luckiest.
Quote from: JB400 on July 29, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
The fix for Nascar: Ditch the common template, and go back to the offset bodies. Give the teams the leeway to creativity and innovation. Best team that day, wins, not the luckiest.
:cheers:
Quote from: JB400 on July 29, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
The fix for Nascar: Ditch the common template, and go back to the offset bodies. Give the teams the leeway to creativity and innovation. Best team that day, wins, not the luckiest.
One thing I will not complain about is the appearance of the current bodies. The old offset bodies got to looking pretty awful. I heard someone refer to them as "twisted sisters".
I call this one the "carp Charger".
What could have been... :(
Easily the best looking of the current generation of cars.
:iagree: And, if Dodge hadn't pulled out of NASCAR...perhaps more of us would still be interested.....
Looks like Bowyer is moving over to join Larson and McMurray via buyout:
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/30/chip-ganassi-racing-confirms-kauffmans-agreement-to-buy-interest-in-team/
Quote from: JB400 on July 30, 2015, 01:25:32 PM
Looks like Bowyer is moving over to join Larson and McMurray via buyout:
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/30/chip-ganassi-racing-confirms-kauffmans-agreement-to-buy-interest-in-team/
And then you got this....
Michael Waltrip Racing co-owner buys share of Ganassihttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/michael-waltrip-racing-co-owner-buys-share-ganassi-171227366--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/michael-waltrip-racing-co-owner-buys-share-ganassi-171227366--nascar.html)
If Kauffman takes Bowyer and sponsorship to Ganassi, that leaves MWR in a hard spot. Kauffman is the money man behind MWR and bought in to bail it out several years ago. Aarons is unsigned for the #55 in 2016 and MWR does not yet have a manufacturer deal. Aarons's has worked with Chase Elliott and could pick up his unsponsored races in 2016 (about 12).
I would imagine the many people who work at MWR have a sick feeling about now. Whether you like or dislike an organization, when they go under, it affects a lot of people in the trenches and their families.
And KB is still on fire...he grabs the pole for Sundays race at Pocono
I wonder how big the bounty is for beating him?
Kenseth wins due to gas mileage at Pocono. Too bad Kyle didn't get it. He's now out of the top 30
he was never in the top 30 since his comeback...he has until the end of the pre-season to make the top 30 to make the chase
I was happy that Kenseth won the race. I think if Kyle would of won the race, I would of stopped watching Nascar forever today. Now he is gotten as bad as Johnson :eek2:
Sad news of Buddy Baker passing away.....he will be missed.... :'(
Was like 2 or 3 weeks ago, he stopped announcing because of his cancer too :rotz:
R.I.P. and God's speed Buddy :'(
2 real highlights for today's race, Johnson had a bad day, and seeing the Miller Genuine Draft colors on BK. Other than that, I probably could have settled for just watching the race review. Typical Michigan.
Latest attempt to change rules for a good race = FAIL !
Looks like Danica is sticking around a little longer:
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2015/8/18/9173673/danica-patrick-natures-bakery-sponsorship
and I don't have any problem with that
MWR/Bowyer to split at end of 2015; no full-time cars in 2016: Michael Waltrip Racing and Clint Bowyer have mutually agreed to separate at the conclusion of the 2015 NASCAR Sprint Cup season. Bowyer, currently 16th in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Chase standings, will be free to pursue other career options in 2016 and beyond. MWR will continue to field the #15 and #55 Toyotas for the remainder of the 2015 season. Team co-owner Rob Kauffman said MWR will not field a full-time NASCAR Sprint Cup entry in 2016.
Sounds like MW is done.
The future doesn't look to good for Michael and his team.
Sounds as if we will have a second Waltrip team going under.......
no great loss as far as I'm concerned....although I'm sorry for the drivers who drive for him...they deserve better anyway
martin truex deserved a lot better
Trucks race tonight at Bristol
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 19, 2015, 03:43:31 PM
martin truex deserved a lot better
I think Truex got a lot better than what he had at MWR.
Quote from: JB400 on August 19, 2015, 06:20:33 PM
I think Truex got a lot better than what he had at MWR.
:iagree:
Any guesses as to where Bowyer and Regan end up at? We know that Ganassi is looking to expand to a 3rd team, and Furniture Row is considering a 2nd team. Rumor has it that the Petty number 9 will be open next year as well.
I hope Boyer goes somewhere good...I don't care for Regan all that much...maybe he could take Dillon's place
Quote from: A383Wing on August 20, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
..maybe he could take Dillon's place
LOL :smilielol: :smilielol: good one...
It's interesting to look back at the history of mwr from the start he tried to cheat the system and got ratted out from the Daytona jet fuel deal to the shaved windshields to the Richmond it's one thing or another...
Good reddens I feel bad for the shop people the drivers have money they will be ok, but that's a shitty way to treat your employees :cheers:
/I can see Clint over at Petty Enterprises to replace Sam Hornish :yesnod:
That might be a good place for him. He could mentor Almorola a little bit and get Petty more competitive.
Quote from: JB400 on August 21, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
That might be a good place for him. He could mentor Almorola a little bit and get Petty more competitive.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
OTHER NEWS....Kauffman couldn't justify continued investment into MWRhttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/kauffman-couldnt-justify-continued-investment-mwr-181118598--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kauffman-couldnt-justify-continued-investment-mwr-181118598--nascar.html)
"The decision to close Michael Waltrip Racing boiled down to finances and results. When the results weren't matching the financial investment Rob Kauffman was making on an annual basis, the co-owner could no longer justify pouring money into the organization. That's the explanation Kauffman gave Friday for his decision this week to pull out of MWR. He rescued Michael Waltrip during MWR's rocky 2007 debut season, but will shift his money to Chip Ganassi Racing beginning next season." More to the story in the link.
Budweiser is going to be replaced by Busch on Harvick's car next year:
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/24/report-anheuser-busch-switching-nascar-brand-in-2016/
this dude will never learn
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/26/kurt-busch-gets-engaged/ (http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/26/kurt-busch-gets-engaged/)
Quote from: Chargen69 on August 27, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
this dude will never learn
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/26/kurt-busch-gets-engaged/ (http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/26/kurt-busch-gets-engaged/)
How long until this implodes?
My question is, who are these women that still want to be with him?
QuoteMy question is, who are these women that still want to be with him?
(http://www.thedailyscrolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Gold-digger.jpg)
Free PR for the hemi...
Darlington paint scheme.
I'm surprised Ford didn't make them go with 429, or go with actual displacement.
Yeah, you're right
Quote from: JB400 on August 28, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
I'm surprised Ford didn't make them go with 429, or go with actual displacement.
Maybe the guy put the "6" on upside down ? :shruggy: :lol:
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 27, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
My question is, who are these women that still want to be with him?
they see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/9/1/darlington-throwback-nbc-announcers-ken-squier-ned-jarrett.html
Quote from: JB400 on August 28, 2015, 02:44:10 PM
I'm surprised Ford didn't make them go with 429, or go with actual displacement.
I bet it says 358CI by the time it hits the track on Friday...
Like this:
NBC is also showing Almorola's car with the 428 decals on the hood. Have to wait and see what is actually on the hood. :popcrn:
Quote from: JB400 on September 03, 2015, 05:23:40 AM
NBC is also showing Almorola's car with the 428 decals on the hood. Have to wait and see what is actually on the hood. :popcrn:
They had 426 call outs in the video of them prepping the car. Go to the 1:20 minute mark on the link below.
https://video-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xat1/v/t43.1792-2/11792765_981178208570660_968295217_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6MjAxMX0%3D&rl=1500&vabr=893&oh=b20ae8ecee4af58b7099e9f2e68dc9be&oe=55E9ECBA (https://video-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xat1/v/t43.1792-2/11792765_981178208570660_968295217_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6MjAxMX0%3D&rl=1500&vabr=893&oh=b20ae8ecee4af58b7099e9f2e68dc9be&oe=55E9ECBA)
8 pm, Friday night - Nascar will stream the 1970 Southern 500.
Good opportunity to see that the car that won the race, #6 Owens Daytona, is not the one in existence today! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Link to the 70 Southern 500. Most of it is ABC broadcast footage. Certainly, the commentary has not been heard since 1970.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/franchises/all-videos.nascar-race-classics-1970-southern-500.4464397817001.html (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/franchises/all-videos.nascar-race-classics-1970-southern-500.4464397817001.html)
its cool that some teams went all out for the southern 500 throwback check out the stash
Great race tonight. I, for one, enjoyed it. It was great seeing the old paint schemes back on track. I also enjoyed the 3 way battle for the lead with 20 to go. I don't think the best car won, but can't complain about who did. I want more races like this one. :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Quote from: JB400 on September 06, 2015, 11:22:57 PM
Great race tonight. I, for one, enjoyed it. It was great seeing the old paint schemes back on track. I also enjoyed the 3 way battle for the lead with 20 to go. I don't think the best car won, but can't complain about who did. I want more races like this one. :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
:iagree: :iagree:
The last caution was total BS. Sorry to see the Brand X cars finish 1-2.
BK got 2nd, not Hamlin.
Quote from: TruckDriver on September 07, 2015, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: JB400 on September 06, 2015, 11:22:57 PM
Great race tonight. I, for one, enjoyed it. It was great seeing the old paint schemes back on track. I also enjoyed the 3 way battle for the lead with 20 to go. I don't think the best car won, but can't complain about who did. I want more races like this one. :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
:iagree: :iagree:
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
http://www.nascar.com/content/nascar/en_us/news-media/blogs/inside-groove/2015/9/denny-hamlin-torn-acl-injury-joe-gibbs-racing-safety-memo-nascarcasm.html
Drivers want new rules package for Chase, NASCAR says no :RantExplode:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/drivers-want-rules-package-chase-nascar-says-no-202841424--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/drivers-want-rules-package-chase-nascar-says-no-202841424--nascar.html)
''It separates the racecar drivers from the pretenders, and that's the way it should be,'' said Darlington runner-up Brad Keselowski.
Don't you have to get in bad wrecks to change the rules? :icon_smile_big: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-eHrV_x0_lo#t=514
Logano is right, Mrs. Harvick does wear the fire suit in the family :rofl:
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/09/21/delana-harvick-has-message-for-those-dissing-her-husband/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Quote from: JB400 on September 21, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
Logano is right, Mrs. Harvick does where the fire suit in the family :rofl:
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/09/21/delana-harvick-has-message-for-those-dissing-her-husband/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :2thumbs:
Quote from: odcics2 on September 21, 2015, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: JB400 on September 21, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
Logano is right, Mrs. Harvick does where the fire suit in the family :rofl:
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/09/21/delana-harvick-has-message-for-those-dissing-her-husband/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :2thumbs:
yep... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
and in other news the mwr #15 got caught cheating again...
The #15 team has been penalized for an infraction that occurred on opening day inspection Sept.18. This is a P4 level penalty (Section 12.1, 20. 14.c, 20.14.2.1.k, 12.5.3.4.d, 12.5.3.4.1.d & f, 12.5.3.4.2 of the NASCAR rule book). Crew chief Billy W. Scott has been fined $75,000, suspended for the next three NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship events and placed on NASCAR probation for six months following the issue of suspension. Driver Clint Bowyer has been penalized 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Driver points. Car owner Rob Kauffman has been penalized 25 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Owner points. NASCAR has requested to the Appeals Administrator of the National Motorsports Appeals Panel that the appeals process described in the rule book be expedited.
AND NASCAR issued the penalty -- P4 on its P1-to-P6 scale with P6 being the most severe -- for violation of the rule that forbids washers or other components that allow movement of certain track bar joints or mounting bolts. Permitting those rear-end suspension components to move would allow the car to handle better in the corners (ESPN).
BS call on BK, but at least he salvaged a decent finish. Good day for Bifle. He needed it. Chalk up another win for Kenseth for being in the right place at the right time. Not good for Harvick. He'll have to win next week. Stewart will have to order another gallon of green paint for Patricks' car
Personally, I'd rather have watched Darlington again. Fuel mileage races aren't that much fun to watch.
I hate fuel mileage races. I don't even like this track. I actually slept through all of this race except the crash where Danica was hit and the single car spin out after that. I'm happy Kenseth won though :2thumbs:
Looks like Stewart is calling it quits after next year. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/report--tony-stewart-to-retire-after-2016-season-235743740.html
Bowyer is taking over afterwards.
Quote from: JB400 on September 27, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
BS call on BK, but at least he salvaged a decent finish.
Sure looked like he went first on the replay.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 28, 2015, 09:32:50 AM
Quote from: JB400 on September 27, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
BS call on BK, but at least he salvaged a decent finish.
Sure looked like he went first on the replay.
:iagree:
Quote from: JB400 on September 28, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
Looks like Stewart is calling it quits after next year. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/report--tony-stewart-to-retire-after-2016-season-235743740.html
Bowyer is taking over afterwards.
Clint might actually do well there :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Aero426 on September 28, 2015, 09:32:50 AM
Quote from: JB400 on September 27, 2015, 04:30:28 PM
BS call on BK, but at least he salvaged a decent finish.
Sure looked like he went first on the replay.
Considering the circumstances, I think that he done a fairly well job of trying to stay even with Biffle.
I was was there this weekend and found this ..refreshing it was on display !
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff99/cylon75/69%20charger/20150927_094749_zpsazrapxfv.jpg) (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/cylon75/media/69%20charger/20150927_094749_zpsazrapxfv.jpg.html)
Another unfortunate accident at Vegas involving unprotected wall :P
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/nascar-driver-airlifted-after-head-on-wreck-to-unprotec-1734528178
:icon_smile_dissapprove: :rotz:
That was a hard hit
#48 in the garage for repairs at lap 109......now he's below the cut line to continue in the chase....will see what the rest of the race brings
NO #48 CAR IN THE CHASE THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs: :yesnod: :punkrocka: :moon: :boogie: :woohoo:
Also, Clint Boyer, Jamie McMurry, Paul Menard are eliminated from the chase.
Congrats to Kevin Harvek for winning the race and making the chase. :2thumbs: :cheers:
Today is a good day... :cheers:
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 04, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
NO #48 CAR IN THE CHASE THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs: :yesnod: :punkrocka: :moon: :boogie: :woohoo:
Also, Clint Boyer, Jamie McMurry, Paul Menard are eliminated from the chase.
Congrats to Kevin Harvek for winning the race and making the chase. :2thumbs: :cheers:
:iagree:
Quote from: odcics2 on October 04, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 04, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
NO #48 CAR IN THE CHASE THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs: :yesnod: :punkrocka: :moon: :boogie: :woohoo:
Also, Clint Boyer, Jamie McMurry, Paul Menard are eliminated from the chase.
Congrats to Kevin Harvek for winning the race and making the chase. :2thumbs: :cheers:
:iagree:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :woohoo: :boogie: Does it appear as if I am happy that Jimmie is out.....oh yes! :icon_smile_big:
In case anyone cares, tonight's Cup race at Charlotte is rained out, race to run on Sunday at 12 noon EST on NBCSN TV.....
:'(
I was all ready for the race. :brickwall:
me too, I dont have time to watch tomorrow
Didn't feel like watching it tonight anyway. :P
http://www.weather.com/travel/news/abandoned-nascar-seph-lawless
Wonder how many more tracks will meet this fate??
A really good day for Johnson today :hah:, a good one for Logano as well. Not so well for Busch or Kenseth.
NASCAR to use driver-preferred downforce package in 2016 :2thumbs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-driver-preferred-downforce-package-2016-191533195--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-driver-preferred-downforce-package-2016-191533195--nascar.html)
(http://www.jayski.com/images/2016rulespackage-full.jpg)
Glad to see the drivers are getting what they asked for.
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Glad to see the drivers are getting what they asked for.
There will still be those that will be unhappy with the package.....just the nature of the breast...you can't please everyone
Quote from: wingcar on October 15, 2015, 08:10:40 AM
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Glad to see the drivers are getting what they asked for.
There will still be those that will be unhappy with the package.....just the nature of the breast...you can't please everyone
Kyle Busch cough cough :yesnod:
A cool video story of Nascar's Dave Marcis, originally from Wisconsin
https://vimeo.com/65914184 (https://vimeo.com/65914184)
Kenseth got dumped! :yesnod:
yup, he did....another reason why Lagano is not on my good guy list
He deserved it.
If your going to keep blocking a faster car, you should get dumped.
Quote from: 41husk on October 19, 2015, 09:02:40 AM
If your going to keep blocking a faster car, you should get dumped.
Matt blocked him low and blocked him high. He got what he deserved. And with the foreign car spun out, an angel gets his wings.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 19, 2015, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: 41husk on October 19, 2015, 09:02:40 AM
If your going to keep blocking a faster car, you should get dumped.
Matt blocked him low and blocked him high. He got what he deserved. And with the foreign car spun out, an angel gets his wings.
I was on the fence with JL's move because of Kenseth's elimination situation.......but not now......thanks for the chuckle Doug! :lol:
Not my quote but I read that I guess the drivers are really grasping the new NFL "playoff" concept. Matt Kennseth committed a "pass interference" foul and Joey Logano "penalized" him with the front bumper. :flush:
I am not a Logano fan, but I felt that Joey was good all the way. He kept coming, and Matt kept blocking. back in the old days There were some drivers that wouldn't have waited as long as Joey did. :yesnod:
Logano is still on my shit list like the 48 car.
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 19, 2015, 08:02:03 PM
Logano is still on my shit list like the 48 car.
and the 24, the 2, and maybe a couple others
I'm ok with the 24 car only because I was a fan of his back in his sprint car days too. I liked him long before he was well known. Not a huge fan, but he is okay to me.
It's all just entertainment... :Twocents:
It is just entertainment. and I love to hate JJ, Gordon, Jr. Hendrick Motor Sports, Logano, Kyle Busch.......... oh, I can add more, but these are topping my list. :rofl:
If you don't have the "EVIL DRIVERS" to root against, its no fun anymore. :yesnod:
Typical Talledega finish. :P Looks like Logano won. :yesnod: JR's out! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Horrible finish. 4 car was broke and couldn't go. Nascar should have left the GWC rule alone.
I agree that it was a bad finish. Harvick should have been black flagged and the cautions were nuts at the end.
Soon as I saw that joker face won, I turned off the tv. I absolutely hate Logano almost more then I hate the 48 car :eek2:
:cheers: i agree, i did the same thing
sucked. Harvick couldn't maintain speed and caused the wreck that ended the race and allowed him to finish. :brickwall:
Check out this old beach race, now that's a fly by...
https://youtu.be/qXdQt8pW3ps
Anyone notice the superbirds and Daytona chargers as well as other nice mopar cars before the race,believe it had something to do with Hot rod magazine. There were a ton of them there. :o :yesnod: :drool5:
wing car event hosted by Tim Wellborn
I seen a video of the wing cars drive by on facebook. there was a big group of them.
yea, it was the 45th anniversary Aero Car meet at Talladega last weekend.....
we are gonna try and make the 50th in 2019
Quote from: 41husk on October 26, 2015, 01:13:30 PM
wing car event hosted by Tim Wellborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-EmAgkqmR4&feature=youtu.be
nice video Stu. :2thumbs: here is the one I seen. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153068685737540&set=vb.13601527539&type=2&theater
Kenseth just clobbered Logano!!! Talk about dirty pool
Quote from: JB400 on November 01, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
Kenseth just clobbered Logano!!!
:2thumbs: I LOVE IT!!! :smilielol: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
I can't stand Joker face!
Looks like Kenseth is in big trouble. :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: He didn't even hit the brakes going in the corner. He run Joey in hard.
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 01, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 01, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
Kenseth just clobbered Logano!!!
:2thumbs: I LOVE IT!!! :smilielol: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
I can't stand Joker face!
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
:smilielol:
:smilielol: :smilielol:
Gordon wins :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: He deserved to win at least one more this year.
Yeah, I agree about Gorden winning at least one more yet. :yesnod: :2thumbs:
I loved how kenseth explained the wreck. Due to the damage he received on the restart, he probably should have taken the car to the garage. But he didn't, and lost a tire driving up the track, and taking Joey out. :2thumbs:
it sounds logical to me. :nana:
And I can't jump on the Gordon band wagon. I dislike all Hendrick motorsports. I don't want to see Jeffy win it all in his last year making it all warm and fuzzy. I just can't do it.
So, who thinks Kenseth will get a similar punishment that Kyle Busch did when he intentionally wrecked Hornaday?
Lagano didn't get punished when he wrecked Kenseth a few weeks ago.....just sayin
Big difference between 2 cars racing for the win with one ending up getting dumped due to blocking compared to junk, lapped down car sticking his nose in the rear of the leader and not hitting the brakes, stuffing the leader in the wall.
Joey got what he deserved...he races everyone dirty
I hope someone stuffs him into a wall on every race
Quote from: A383Wing on November 02, 2015, 02:12:54 AM
Joey got what he deserved...he races everyone dirty
I hope someone stuffs him into a wall on every race
:iagree: :yesnod:
"Life imitating art"......sounds a scene straight out of "Days of Thunder"....LOL (ok, Days of Thunder is not art, but you know what I mean)
Sounds as if the last few races will become very interesting with a lot of story lines and bent sheet metal....
(I will not be watching as I just read the recaps anymore...lost interest for the most part)
For my two cents, I hope Jeff can pull off winning his Fifth Championship...it would be a great way to end a career....
Next on my list would be Kyle, just because everyone said he couldn't do it and made such a big deal out of his missing the races at the beginning of the year.
Quote from: wingcar on November 02, 2015, 08:22:58 AM
(I will not be watching as I just read the recaps anymore...lost interest for the most part)
For my two cents, I hope Jeff can pull off winning his Fifth Championship...it would be a great way to end a career....
Next on my list would be Kyle, just because everyone said he couldn't do it and made such a big deal out of his missing the races at the beginning of the year.
Agree with the above. :yesnod:
JMO.....and that's all it is.......
Former Kenseth fan. I hate retaliation. Deserved or not.......it ALWAYS changes the outcome for people not involved. I well know Nascar is a show....it's entertainment. But for me......the rules need to enforced fairly. Don't care if it's my hero or the current bad guy. For example, if it was not right and deserved penalties for Boyer to bring out the caution to alter who moved forward into the chase.......Harvik needed to be penalized for the same basic thing.
So not much into Nascar anymore. But......wouldn't really bother me if Gordon pulled it off.
Hope Kyle does it......for the above reasons. :yesnod: I like Gibbs much better then Hendrick......
Quote from: A383Wing on November 02, 2015, 12:53:26 AM
Lagano didn't get punished when he wrecked Kenseth a few weeks ago.....just sayin
Different situation when you are both racing for the win. Kenseth blocked Logano multiple times on that lap at Kansas and got what he deserved. He was completely in the wrong yesterday.
Right now, the inmates are running the asylum. Pretty good for the short term news cycle. Bad for the overall integrity of the sport.
Quote from: JB400 on November 02, 2015, 12:29:39 AM
So, who thinks Kenseth will get a similar punishment that Kyle Busch did when he intentionally wrecked Hornaday?
he probably will have a suspension of some kind, we'll know tomorrow.
however, the crowd at the race stated how I feel about it :cheers:
Quote from: Aero426 on November 02, 2015, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 02, 2015, 12:53:26 AM
Lagano didn't get punished when he wrecked Kenseth a few weeks ago.....just sayin
Different situation when you are both racing for the win. Kenseth blocked Logano multiple times on that lap at Kansas and got what he deserved. He was completely in the wrong yesterday.
Right now, the inmates are running the asylum. Pretty good for the short term news cycle. Bad for the overall integrity of the sport.
I agree completely - Kyle Petty nailed it perfectly yesterday.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 02, 2015, 11:40:44 AM
I agree completely - Kyle Petty nailed it perfectly yesterday.
Had to be embarrassing for some to watch. All that was missing were the wrestling masks.
I don't think the crowd was cheering for Matt as much as they just happen to dislike Joey.
I will admit it was comic relief to see Danica kick her own ass when she went after Gilliland and self-inflicted damage upon herself.
Best thing Logano could ever do is tell his father to stay out of the garage area.
The only ones I would like to see win it all is Truex , Edwards, maybe Harvick or Kurt Busch. The rest can all go home far as I am concerned. If Gorden wins the championship again, everyone will believe it was scripted and Nascar will for sure loose a LOT more fans. :yesnod:
By the way, this made me laugh out loud :smilielol:
Quote from: Aero426 on November 02, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
I don't think the crowd was cheering for Matt as much as they just happen to dislike Joey.
I agree with what you are saying about the crowd, and I repeat my last statement, "the crowd at the race stated how I feel about it" i dislike Joey too
Joey got what he dished out ,Matt had nothing to loose what dose he care if he parked at this point. I for one don't blame him .Joey know knows where the line is but he still wont learn anything. :D :rofl:
There was an interesting article yesterday where Gordon, Harvick and Earnhardt talked about the whole deal. The general consensus regarding Kenseth was, "I can't blame him for what he did". Jr probably said it best at the end about racing and respect. Speaking about Kenseth, he said, "Do not spin that boy out".
The thing about Joey is, he hasn't raced much different than Sr., DW, Rusty, Gordon, Stewart, Jr, or any of the other big name racers. Kenseth needs to either suck it up and step up or step out. :Twocents:
NO way he is in that class
well, they just suspended Matt for the next two races, and on probation for the rest of the year
Danica fined as well.
Quote from: A383Wing on November 03, 2015, 06:05:43 PM
well, they just suspended Matt for the next two races, and on probation for the rest of the year
they know that if matt was in the next two races he'd hit him again :rofl: :rofl:
I bet Matt finds a way to mess up his day at homestead without the big crash
WOW...
Penalty Announcement: Kenseth suspended 2 races; Patrick fined: Matt Kenseth , the driver of the #20 car, has been penalized for an infraction that occurred during the Nov. 1 race at Martinsville Speedway. This is a Behavioral Penalty (Sections 12.1, 12.8). Kenseth has been suspended from NASCAR through the completion of the next two NASCAR Sprint Cup Series championship events and placed on NASCAR probation for a six-month period following issuance of the penalty notice.
"Based upon our extensive review, we have concluded that the #20 car driver, who is no longer in the Chase, intentionally wrecked the #22 car driver, a Chase-eligible competitor who was leading the race at the time,"said Steve O'Donnell, NASCAR executive vice president and chief racing development officer. "The #20 car was nine laps down, and eliminated the #22 car's opportunity to continue to compete in the race.
"Additionally, we factored aspects of safety into our decision, and also the fact that the new Chase elimination format puts a premium on each and every race. These actions have no place in NASCAR."
Danica Patrick, the driver of the #10 car, has been penalized for an infraction that also took place during the Nov. 1 race at Martinsville Speedway. This is a Behavioral Penalty (Sections 12.1, 12.8). Patrick has been fined $50,000, assessed with the loss of 25 series championship driver points and placed on NASCAR probation through Dec. 31.(NASCAR)(11-3-2015)
NAPCAR!!! after being a fan for more than 40 years, I stopped watching after they said no Confederate flag.
Quote from: cdr on November 03, 2015, 07:53:49 PM
NAPCAR!!! after being a fan for more than 40 years, I stopped watching after they said no Confederate flag.
If Gorden and or Logano win the championship, then I am done too after being a life long fan. Because then you can easily say it is scripted like the WWE.
I would have suspended Kenseth only one race... The first one next year! :lol:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 04, 2015, 12:53:09 PM
I would have suspended Kenseth only one race... The first one next year! :lol:
They needed to take something of real value from him. Suspend him for a race now, but take the points from the first 2016 race. THAT would send a message.
I would agree.
yeah but if they didnt have some of this excitement , it would be even more boring :icon_smile_big:
Finally, a good explanation from the man in charge on what has taken place. :
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/04/nascars-brian-france-says-matt-kenseth-suspended-for-impacting-chase/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Brian done good on his decision making this time.
Looks like Kenseths' appeal will be heard Thurs. http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/11/4/matt-kenseth-appeal-set-for-thursday-two-race-suspension.html
Double standard - if the car was a black #3 and this was in the 90's, there would have been no penalties... :Twocents:
Did SR ever junk someone that bad, while many laps down? I mean, yes he wrecked plenty of people, but wasnt it pretty much always for the lead or the win?
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 05, 2015, 06:57:53 AM
Did SR ever junk someone that bad, while many laps down? I mean, yes he wrecked plenty of people, but wasnt it pretty much always for the lead or the win?
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: yup
wow ...
Its upheld 2 races suspension I would have thought they would cut it to one race...
A three-member panel upheld behavioral penalties against driver Matt Kenseth on Thursday, keeping him sidelined for the next two NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races.
The National Motorsports Appeals Panel heard the appeal at the NASCAR Research & Development Center, ultimately ruling that Kenseth did not provide sufficient evidence to overturn his suspension or probation for his on-track incident last weekend with rival Joey Logano.
I think if Logano was deeper in the field, it might have been reduced. However, since he was first when it happened, I think that was the deciding factor.
He got what he deserved, even if Joey has been a dick about things lately.
Looks like Eric Jones will fill in.
Who the heck is Eric Jones? Never heard of him :shruggy: I bet Nascar's tv rating hit the floor too this weekend. I know a few people that said there are not going to watch a race until Matt is back. I bet there is a LOT more too :yesnod:
Eric Jones drives in the Truck series mostly, but does drive Nationwide races every once in a while. He's filled in for Hamlin a time or two.
Shows you how much I pay attention to the new drivers. I only watch Nascar now only because of a few drivers, one is Matt because I watched him race from his rookie year at Slinger Speedway (My local track) until he left for cup.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :rofl: :rofl:
I really really like Joe Gibbs, I just wished he hired more drivers like Matt, and less like denny, kyle, and carl
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html)
Quote from: JB400 on November 05, 2015, 06:33:44 PM
Eric Jones drives in the Truck series mostly, but does drive Nationwide races every once in a while. He's filled in for Hamlin a time or two.
Some of the best racing is in the truck series........reminds me more of the time when drivers weren't so worried about being so PC because of their sponsors. Races are shorter so they need to get 'er done sooner.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 06, 2015, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: JB400 on November 05, 2015, 06:33:44 PM
Eric Jones drives in the Truck series mostly, but does drive Nationwide races every once in a while. He's filled in for Hamlin a time or two.
Some of the best racing is in the truck series........reminds me more of the time when drivers weren't so worried about being so PC because of their sponsors. Races are shorter so they need to get 'er done sooner.
I watch the trucks most of the time, but they usually are boring to me unless on bigger tracks.
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 06, 2015, 10:46:30 AM
I really really like Joe Gibbs, I just wished he hired more drivers like Matt, and less like denny, kyle, and carl
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html)
Thank you for the link to this. YES, I agree about Joe Gibbs too. And I know what he is referring to, also, I believe the Atlanta crash with Brad K. and Carl E.
:cheers:
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 06, 2015, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 06, 2015, 10:46:30 AM
I really really like Joe Gibbs, I just wished he hired more drivers like Matt, and less like denny, kyle, and carl
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/video/kenseth-unfairly-made-example-234928139.html)
Thank you for the link to this. YES, I agree about Joe Gibbs too. And I know what he is referring to, also, I believe the Atlanta crash with Brad K. and Carl E.
Matt summed it up pretty good, looks like he demands respect, and I think he would do it all over again and again if the same jackass runs his mouth disrespectfully again
I don't think Joey was disrespectful, just not apologetic about it. He called it like he saw it, which is the way it was. It's not like he said he accidentally did it on purpose.
well, more than I think it was disrespectful, such as the other drivers and Matt who "junked" joey
it will be interesting to see their interactions next year. I think matt made his point, I doubt anybody will push him around for a while
oh, just curious, if Jeff is faster and bumps Joey for the win this week at texas, and then mouths off about it, everybody is okay with that?
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 07, 2015, 07:04:43 PM
oh, just curious, if Jeff is faster and bumps Joey for the win this week at texas, and then mouths off about it, everybody is okay with that?
Kyle Busch said it best "only matters whos name is above the door". Maybe Kenseth realized he isn't as "special" as he thought.
Quote from: bristol on November 07, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 07, 2015, 07:04:43 PM
oh, just curious, if Jeff is faster and bumps Joey for the win this week at texas, and then mouths off about it, everybody is okay with that?
Kyle Busch said it best "only matters whos name is above the door". Maybe Kenseth realized he isn't as "special" as he thought.
He is now LOL
Perfect day so far.....Logano shreds a rear tire and he's in the garage.....
Wellllllll, at least Brad didn't win either. This all good for Truex though :yesnod:
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/08/matt-kenseth-takes-shot-at-joey-logano-brian-france-after-jimmie-johnsons-win-at-texas/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs (http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/08/matt-kenseth-takes-shot-at-joey-logano-brian-france-after-jimmie-johnsons-win-at-texas/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs)
matt to nascar :slap:
http://www.nbcsports.com/video/johnson-drivers-should-absolutely-police-themselves (http://www.nbcsports.com/video/johnson-drivers-should-absolutely-police-themselves)
How fitting that JR knocked out Logno of the chase glad he could return the favor. Matt was right he not going to win!! :nana: :rofl: :yesnod: :cheers:
Quote from: keith88 on November 16, 2015, 05:35:45 AM
How fitting that JR knocked out Logno of the chase glad he could return the favor. Matt was right he not going to win!! :nana: :rofl: :yesnod: :cheers:
:cheers: :cheers: :icon_smile_big: :slap:
OK, after all the drama and on track "happenings" we now have the final four that includes Jeff Gordon (the sentimental favorite), Martin Truex Jr. (the underdog), Kevin Harvick (the reigning champ) and Kyle Busch (the comeback kid).
Personally, for me I like the final four. It's a great field and each has an interesting story that will make for good reading. Three of my choices are included even if I don't really follow NASCAR as much as I once did. Bottom-line, if you couldn't find something that excited you about this Chase, then you are truly finished with NASCAR as a fan. Pour a big glass of orange juice and enjoy the last race....it should be interesting since they have nothing to lose at this point and it's now all about winning.....
Still not sure what I think of the playoff format. Harvick is the only one of the remaining four that would be there using conventional points.
Using the normal points format:
Truex would be 5th 146 points back
Gordon would be 10th, 207 points back
Kyle would be 20th, 458 points back
I still hate the chase. I understand it is more exciting and drama makes good tv and all that. But I still think it has cheapened the sport. the fact that a guy could not only miss a race or two, but a LOT of races and still win the championship is crazy to me. The days where there were MEN racing is dead and buried. Oh, I dont feel well(denny hamlin), so i will sit this race out is BS.
just my :Twocents: but i think they should go to a modified version of the old points system. I'm okay with the 1 point per position idea, but give the winner of each race 15 points extra points, or something like that.
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 16, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
The days where there were MEN racing is dead and buried.
Things Cale never said:
"I think I'll bake some cookies during this rain delay".
Quote from: Aero426 on November 16, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 16, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
The days where there were MEN racing is dead and buried.
Things Cale never said: "I think I'll bake some cookies during this rain delay".
I doubt she's any good at that either
OUCH ,That going to leave a mark!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Looks like chicken instead of cookies.
Of the 4, I say Harvick stands a better chance of winning, but Gordon would be the crowd favorite. I'll pull for Busch though. I'd rather have the old points system like they still have in Nationwide and trucks. Their systems have still been just as interesting and drama filled. I see no need in making it up.
NASCAR's top three winners this year – Logano (six wins), Jimmie Johnson (five wins) and Matt Kenseth (five wins) – will not compete for their title.
#where the winners aren't
Well Logano took Matt out of the chase and jimmy broke.. that's what happen!!
set up for a Hollywood or WWE finish. Defending champ #4 vs Retiring 4x champ #24 vs Cinderella driver who breaks his leg misses large part of season and has to scratch and fight just to get in #18 vs unlikely underdog Single car low budget Colorado team. meanwhile The most popular driver #88 and three most winning teams in 2015, 22,48 and 20 watch the action. Despite The 48, 22, and 88 having one at least a race in the chase. Now the 20 needs to come back from his suspension to win in homestead. I couldn't write this crap :shruggy:
Quote from: 41husk on November 16, 2015, 01:07:01 PM
set up for a Hollywood or WWE finish. Defending champ #4 vs Retiring 4x champ #24 vs Cinderella driver who breaks his leg misses large part of season and has to scratch and fight just to get in #18 vs unlikely underdog Single car low budget Colorado team. meanwhile The most popular driver #88 and three most winning teams in 2015, 22,48 and 20 watch the action. Despite The 48, 22, and 88 having one at least a race in the chase. Now the 20 needs to come back from his suspension to win in homestead. I couldn't write this crap :shruggy:
All set up for a happily ever after ending.
You forgot the part where Kenseth takes out Logano on the last lap and puts him on his lid as he takes the checkered flag.
I don't think Matt will be wrecking anyone on purpose this week :Twocents:
Quote from: 41husk on November 16, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
I don't think Matt will be wrecking anyone on purpose this week :Twocents:
Brian France met with him today in Charlotte. They probably had a quintessential conversation.
I just want Truex to win it all. :yesnod:
me toooooo. :iagree:
It is set up to be a storybook ending for who ever wins. It is possible that the champion doesn't finish in the top 5, 48, 22, 2, 20, 88, 19, Curt Bush........
I will be happy with whoever wins it next weekend...as long as it ain't the 24 car
Quote from: A383Wing on November 17, 2015, 03:59:00 PM
I will be happy with whoever wins it next weekend...as long as it ain't the 24 car
Amen
I guess Bill Nye wants Nascar to be like F1
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/bill-nye-nascar-anti-nasa-211636787.html
Quote from: JB400 on November 17, 2015, 06:10:15 PM
I guess Bill Nye wants Nascar to be like F1
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/bill-nye-nascar-anti-nasa-211636787.html
gag me with a sledgehammer
Quote from: Aero426 on November 16, 2015, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: 41husk on November 16, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
I don't think Matt will be wrecking anyone on purpose this week :Twocents:
Brian France met with him today in Charlotte. They probably had a quintessential conversation.
:lol:
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Larson made the Xfinity race interesting today.
Certainly drove the wheels off her in the last 7 laps.
Good to see Kyle do one of his usual screw ups!
GO JEFF,WIN IT,,BUT HAVE THE BEST TIME AN LOTS OF FUN OUT THERE TODAY....MY SONS FAVORITE WAY BACK. SON 26 NOW I STILL HAVE SONS POSTERS AN MODELS OF 24 WE BUILT.
Well, at least K.B. has never won a championship until now. But eh.... :eyes: :P
Good job KB....he showed 'em it could be done.....like I said before, I really didn't care who won, as long as the 24 was not the winner
well well well. Thank goodness Gordon didn't win. I was for Truex, but I'm ok with the finish. Here is the next page of the playoffs. A guy misses 11 races and wins the championship. kyle won it within the rules set by NASCAR, But under the old system would have never had a chance to dance.
Yea yea, I know it's been discussed many times, just doesn't seem right that you can miss half the season, and the way they made the rules you can win it all.
Toyota sucks.
With KyBu winning, precedent has been set. Drivers can now negotiate their contracts to take 1/3 of the season off.
The last caution must have been for a twist tie on the track. What a joke. Larson was coming and should have won that race.
Larson lost it by a water bottle. I really wanted to see him win it. At least the champion won the race :P
As far as I'm concerned, the history books of every season with the chase format should have a big Astrix next to "champion".
* :icon_bs:
Personally I have no problem with Kyle's winning the Championship. He did everything NASCAR officials asked of him and more. I really feel that deep down inside that NASCAR never figured he could comeback, and for that matter no one ever figured he would do it in such an over the top way. I am really tried of individuals who have a problem with the eleven races he missed....so what? He actually did what he had to do in a shortened season, while other teams had those eleven races in which to win, and didn't. I am not a big fan of Kyle, but that may change in time as he has shown that he can change and work through major issues that would have kept other teams down the whole season. Both he and his brother have had their issues in the past, and I just hope that moving forward all those issues are now a thing of the past. Still not a huge fan of the way NASCAR of today is.....but I can always change channels if I don't like what I see. This race was worth watching. (I was actually hoping for Jeff to win, but that didn't happen, so I was content with the fact that Harvick didn't win). It's all over until next year, and Kyle is the 2015 Championship.....so get over it.
Just my two cents..... :Twocents: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion......
Still sucks ..booooooooo :moon:
Quote from: wingcar on November 23, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Personally I have no problem with Kyle's winning the Championship. He did everything NASCAR officials asked of him and more. I really feel that deep down inside that NASCAR never figured he could comeback, and for that matter no one ever figured he would do it in such an over the top way. I am really tried of individuals who have a problem with the eleven races he missed....so what? He actually did what he had to do in a shortened season, while other teams had those eleven races in which to win, and didn't. I am not a big fan of Kyle, but that may change in time as he has shown that he can change and work through major issues that would have kept other teams down the whole season. Both he and his brother have had their issues in the past, and I just hope that moving forward all those issues are now a thing of the past. Still not a huge fan of the way NASCAR of today is.....but I can always change channels if I don't like what I see. This race was worth watching. (I was actually hoping for Jeff to win, but that didn't happen, so I was content with the fact that Harvick didn't win). It's all over until next year, and Kyle is the 2015 Championship.....so get over it.
Just my two cents..... :Twocents: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion......
Very much agree with the above. :yesnod: With the exception of I would have been OK with Jeff......but preferred Truex or Kyle. JMO.....Harvick wrecked [6 car?] to get the caution he needed to advance. If Matt was penalized for interfering.....Harvick should have been too. Anyone but Harvick.
With the format of the chase as it is now with rewarding winning.....can anyone honestly say he did not deserve to compete for the championship? Dislike Kyle if you want.....but he can drive. Maybe there needs to be something in the rules that if you win 3 or more....your in. :shruggy:
Was not really a fan of the chase format......but gotta admit it was a good race. Was worth watching. :yesnod:
Quote from: wingcar on November 23, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Personally I have no problem with Kyle's winning the Championship. He did everything NASCAR officials asked of him and more. I really feel that deep down inside that NASCAR never figured he could comeback, and for that matter no one ever figured he would do it in such an over the top way. I am really tried of individuals who have a problem with the eleven races he missed....so what? He actually did what he had to do in a shortened season, while other teams had those eleven races in which to win, and didn't. I am not a big fan of Kyle, but that may change in time as he has shown that he can change and work through major issues that would have kept other teams down the whole season. Both he and his brother have had their issues in the past, and I just hope that moving forward all those issues are now a thing of the past. Still not a huge fan of the way NASCAR of today is.....but I can always change channels if I don't like what I see. This race was worth watching. (I was actually hoping for Jeff to win, but that didn't happen, so I was content with the fact that Harvick didn't win). It's all over until next year, and Kyle is the 2015 Championship.....so get over it.
Just my two cents..... :Twocents: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion......
exactly :iagree:
QuotePersonally I have no problem with Kyle's winning the Championship. He did everything NASCAR officials asked of him and more.
I agree they worked hard and won it per the twisted chase rules. They have a top-rate team.
But the chase still blows hugely!
What bothers me about Kyle B, is part of the reason I am most of the time bored of Napscar, is because he wins EVERYTHING he is in. It's like they let him have more H.P. the all the other cars. There is no way normal that he could win every damn Xfinity and truck race he is in. :P :rotz:
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 24, 2015, 08:35:06 AM
What bothers me about Kyle B, is part of the reason I am most of the time bored of Napscar, is because he wins EVERYTHING he is in. It's like they let him have more H.P. the all the other cars. There is no way normal that he could win every damn Xfinity and truck race he is in. :P :rotz:
Every era has had a driver that seems to win everything he runs. Such as Lee Petty, Richard Petty, David Pearson, Darrel Waltip, Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon, and Jimmie Johnson, just to name a few. These drivers have their "time in the lime-light", but eventually that stops and another driver takes up the mantel and runs with it. (Nothing lasts forever.....) Kyle will have his day, but he and every other driver understands that the day will come when the next win will never come....
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 24, 2015, 08:35:06 AM
What bothers me about Kyle B, is part of the reason I am most of the time bored of Napscar, is because he wins EVERYTHING he is in.
I think the reason Kyle wins is because he is just that good. Not a fan, but he is a wheel man. Same reason why people booed Jeff Gordon in the 90's.
Pete, when Butch Hartman won seven out of eight USAC races at Milwaukee in 1973-74, they had the signs out, "Anyone but Butch". Anyone who wins too much becomes somewhat unpopular.
Quote from: Aero426 on November 24, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 24, 2015, 08:35:06 AM
What bothers me about Kyle B, is part of the reason I am most of the time bored of Napscar, is because he wins EVERYTHING he is in.
I think the reason Kyle wins is because he is just that good. Not a fan, but he is a wheel man. Same reason why people booed Jeff Gordon in the 90's.
Pete, when Butch Hartman won seven out of eight USAC races at Milwaukee in 1973-74, they had the signs out, "Anyone but Butch". Anyone who wins too much becomes somewhat unpopular.
You're right, I forgot about that :yesnod:
Quote from: Aero426 on November 19, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
Now THIS is funny. Diecast on ebay now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111827489101 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/111827489101)
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Quote from: A383Wing on November 26, 2015, 11:05:51 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 19, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
Now THIS is funny. Diecast on ebay now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111827489101 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/111827489101)
sold for $910
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nascar is dead to me.
Something to look forward to next year: Darlington is having the retro paint schemes brought back.
Cool, I liked that. My mom will be happy, because this year, she missed it
NASCAR expands Chase format to other 2 national series now starting this season.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-expands-chase-format-other-2-national-series-172451270--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-expands-chase-format-other-2-national-series-172451270--nascar.html)
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction)
The caution clock is a joke. and will ruin the truck series. Honestly, I liked the original format they had, which was similar to the Winston Select.
In other news, heat races are being introduced in select Xfinity races.
best nascar racing ive ever seen was trucks at eldora, hands down awesome. quick heat races, last chance nail bitter and then about a 1hr race. this 3hrs of playing merry go-round till the last 20 laps to actually start racing sucks
Quote from: Chargen69 on January 19, 2016, 06:52:22 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction)
First time I saw this. That IS a joke. It will kill the series fairly fast is my guess. I wont watch it no more now, screw that. I'll go back to watching Sprint Cars.
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 20, 2016, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: Chargen69 on January 19, 2016, 06:52:22 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/nascar-caution-clock-rule-reaction)
First time I saw this. That IS a joke. It will kill the series fairly fast is my guess. I wont watch it no more now, screw that. I'll go back to watching Sprint Cars.
The clock rule at face value seems completely asinine. Might as well just have a 20 lap race and call it good.
That was basically what I thought after reading that.... Heat races at best. :rotz:
Here's the 2016 Sprint Cup schedule with starting times and TV networks:
(All Times Eastern)
Feb. 13 – Sprint Unlimited (Daytona International Speedway) ... 8 p.m. ... Fox
Feb. 14 – Daytona 500 qualifying ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
Feb. 18 – Duel qualifying races at Daytona ... 7 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Feb. 21 — Daytona 500 ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
Feb. 28 – Atlanta ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
March 6 — Las Vegas ... 3:30 p.m. ... Fox
March 13 — Phoenix ... 3:30 p.m. ... Fox
March 20 — Auto Club Speedway ... 3:30 p.m. ... Fox
March 27 – Easter (off weekend)
April 3 – Martinsville ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 9 – Texas ... 7:30 p.m. ... Fox
April 17 – Bristol ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
April 24 – Richmond ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
May 1- Talladega ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
May 7 – Kansas ... 7:30 p.m. .. Fox Sports 1
May 15 – Dover ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 20 – Sprint Showdown at Charlotte ... 7 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 21 – Sprint All-Star race at Charlotte ... 7 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 29 – Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte ... 6 p.m. ... Fox
June 5 – Pocono ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 12 – Michigan ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 19 – Father's Day (off weekend)
June 26 – Sonoma ... 3 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
July 2 — Daytona ... 7:45 p.m. ... NBC
July 9 – Kentucky ... 7:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 17 – New Hampshire ... 1:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 24 – Indianapolis ... 3 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 31 – Pocono ... 1:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
Aug. 7 – Watkins Glen ... 2:30 p.m. ... USA Network
Aug. 14 – Off weekend
Aug. 20 – Bristol ... 8 p.m. ... NBCSN
Aug. 28 – Michigan ... 2 p.m. ... NBCSN
Sept. 4 – Darlington ... 6 p.m. ... NBC
Sept. 10 – Richmond ... 7:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
Sept. 18 – Chicagoland (first race in Chase) ... 2:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
Sept. 25 – New Hampshire ... 2 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 2 – Dover ... 2 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 8 – Charlotte ... 7 p.m. ... NBC
Oct.16 – Kansas ... 2:15 p.m. ... NBC
Oct. 23 – Talladega ... 2 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 30 – Martinsville ... 1 p.m. ... NBCSN
Nov. 6 – Texas ... 2 p.m. ... NBC
Nov. 13 – Phoenix ... 2:30 p.m. ... NBC
Nov. 20 – Homestead ... 2:30 p.m. ... NBC
Trucks:
(All times listed are Eastern)
Feb. 19 – Daytona ... 7:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Feb. 27 – Atlanta ... 4:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 2 – Martinsville ... 2.30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 6 – Kansas ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 13 – Dover ... 5:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
May 20 – Charlotte ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 10 – Texas ...9 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 18 – Iowa ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 25 – Gateway ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
July 7 – Kentucky ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
July 20 – Eldora ... 9 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
July 30 – Pocono ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Aug. 17 – Bristol ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Aug. 27 – Michigan ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Sept. 4 – Canadian Tire Motorsport Park ... 2:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Sept. 16 – Chicagoland ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Sept 24 – New Hampshire ... 1 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Oct. 1 – Las Vegas ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Oct. 22 – Talladega ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
Oct. 29 – Martinsville ... 1:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Nov. 4 – Texas ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Nov. 11 – Phoenix ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Nov. 18 – Homestead-Miami ... 8 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Xfinity
(All times listed are Eastern)
Feb. 20 – Daytona ... 3:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
Feb. 27 – Atlanta ... 1:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
March 5 – Las Vegas ... 4 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
March 12 – Phoenix ... 2:30 p.m. ... Fox
March 19 – Auto Club Speedway ... 4 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 8 – Texas ... 8:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 16 – Bristol ... 12:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 23 – Richmond ... 12:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
April 30 – Talladega ... 3 p.m. ... Fox
May 14 – Dover ... 2 p.m. ... Fox
May 28 – Charlotte ... 2:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 4 – Pocono ... 1 p.m. ... Fox
June 11 – Michigan ... 1:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
June 19 – Iowa ... 1:30 p.m. ... Fox Sports 1
July 1 – Daytona ... 7:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 8 – Kentucky ... 8:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 16 – New Hampshire ... 4 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 23 – Indianapolis ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
July 30 – Iowa ... 8 p.m. ... NBCSN
Aug. 6 – Watkins Glen ... 2 p.m. ... CNBC
Aug. 13 – Mid-Ohio ... 3:30 p.m. ... USA
Aug. 19 – Bristol ... 7:30 p.m. ... USA
Aug. 27 – Road America ... 3 p.m. ... NBCSN
Sept. 3 – Darlington ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBC
Sept. 9 – Richmond ... 7:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
Sept. 17 – Chicagoland ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBC
Sept. 24 – Kentucky ... 8 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 1 – Dover ... 3 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 7 – Charlotte ... 8 p.m. ... NBCSN
Oct. 15 – Kansas ... 4 p.m. ... NBCSN
Nov. 5 – Texas ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBC
Nov. 12 – Phoenix ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBC
Nov. 19 – Homestead ... 3:30 p.m. ... NBCSN
MRN's Barney Hall Passes Away
http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2016/01/MRNs-Barney-Hall-Passes-Away.aspx (http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2016/01/MRNs-Barney-Hall-Passes-Away.aspx)
CONCORD, N.C. - Hall of Fame broadcaster Barney Hall, a cornerstone of MRN's NASCAR coverage since the network's founding in 1970, died Tuesday from complications following a recent medical procedure. He was 83.
At the time of his death, Hall was in the company of long-time companion Karen Carrier – the love of his life.
Hall was born on June 24, 1932, in Elkin, N.C., the town he called home his entire life. After graduating from high school, he joined the Navy and served four years of active duty, during which Hall launched his radio career. He would return to his hometown and work as a disc jockey at radio station WIFM for 13 years.
Hall was widely known for his calm voice and unmatched storytelling. He was part of MRN's award-winning race coverage since the network's debut in 1970. Prior to that, Hall served as Bristol Motor Speedway's first public address announcer, called his first Daytona 500 in 1960 and missed only four broadcasts in the 57-year history of "The Great American Race."
One of those was the "500" won by Matt Kenseth in 2012, when illness sidelined Hall. But as NASCAR returned to Martinsville Speedway one month later, fans once again heard a comforting, familiar voice over the airwaves.
Barney was back in the booth.
Hall remained an integral part of the network's NASCAR coverage throughout the next two years. On July 6, 2014, he worked his final race - calling Aric Almirola's rain-shortened win at Daytona International Speedway, which returned the iconic No. 43 Richard Petty Motorsports entry to Victory Lane.
Hall's voice was heard on a number of special broadcasts in the months that followed. The National Motorsports Press Association named Hall its Broadcaster of the Year in 2014. He and MRN producer Darrell Smith teamed up to win another NMPA award in 2015. Barney was inducted into that organization's Hall of Fame in 2007.
In May 2012, NASCAR and the NASCAR Hall of Fame jointly announced the creation of a new award to honor the media's contributions to the success of the sport. It carried the names of two legendary MRN broadcasters: Barney Hall and Ken Squier, who were also the first recipients.
Hall was recently recognized by the Motor Racing Network with an appreciation award for his 45 years of service.
Mr. Hall is survived by Karen Carrier, the love of his life for 35 years, an aunt and several cousins.
The Motor Racing Network family wishes Barney Hall Godspeed.
Injured Tony Stewart to miss start of final NASCAR season
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/injured-tony-stewart-miss-start-final-nascar-season-185835673--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/injured-tony-stewart-miss-start-final-nascar-season-185835673--nascar.html)
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Tony Stewart will miss the start of his final NASCAR season after fracturing his back in an accident on an all-terrain vehicle, Stewart-Haas Racing said Thursday.
The three-time NASCAR champion sustained a ''burst fracture of the L1 vertebra'' when he crashed on an ATV Sunday and he had surgery Wednesday, the team said. A timetable for Stewart's return has not been determined, but SHR said he is expected to make a full recovery and race this year.
Drivers report to Daytona next week to begin preparations for the season-opening Daytona 500 on Feb. 21. An interim driver for the No. 14 Chevrolet was not named Thursday.
Denny Hamlin in 2013 suffered a compression fracture to the same L1 vertebra and missed four races. But even after his return, he struggled with back pain the rest of the season.
Stewart will miss what was expected to be his final Daytona 500. He is 0-17 in the prestigious race and spoke last month about how it's one of the few glaring holes on his resume. Stewart, who turns 45 in May, plans to retire from NASCAR competition at the end of this year.
Stewart was with Greg Biffle and other NASCAR personalities on the ATV outing in the Southern California desert when he crashed. The team said he was awake and alert as he was taken to a hospital and he was able to move all of his extremities.
Stewart flew to North Carolina late Tuesday and remained hospitalized Thursday following his surgery.
Biffle was not present when Stewart crashed but told SiriusXM's NASCAR channel that ''we started kind of hearing bits and pieces that he hurt his back.''
''I do know the people that helped him ... (said) he was walking and moving all of his extremities, but he was in a lot of pain,'' Biffle said.
This is yet another setback in the final stages of one of the most storied careers in racing. Stewart has slumped since breaking his leg in a 2013 sprint car accident. A year later, he missed three races while in seclusion after his car struck and killed a fellow driver at a dirt track in New York. Stewart was cleared of any criminal wrongdoing, but faces a civil suit from the family of Kevin Ward Jr.
He has not won a race since 2013, before he broke his leg, and was 28th in the final Sprint Cup standings last year. He had just three top-10 finishes and 24 laps led, both career lows, and readily admitted his confidence was shot.
A crew chief change was made for this season - the fourth different team leader Stewart will have since he won the 2011 title - and he hoped a new NASCAR rules package would better fit his driving style and make him competitive in this final hurrah.
No matter what happened this year, Stewart insisted last month this will be his final NASCAR season.
''If it's a terrible year, I'm not going to sit there and go, 'Wow, that defined my career,' because the stats will show what we did over 18 years,'' Stewart said. ''I think no matter how the season goes, I'm going to be able to say I had a successful run in the Sprint Cup Series.''
Looks like the charter system is a go.
Won't really change anything though other then the name.
Brian Vickers filling in for Tony in he 500.
Race on Fox tonight
Quote from: JB400 on February 13, 2016, 07:24:00 PM
Race on Fox tonight
Watching now. I actually think Jeff Gorden is doing a good job in the booth. Of course, it is better then listening to Larry Mac all the time :lol:
I was watching some of the practice sessions so I seen J.G. for a few hours now.
the Waltrip duo needs to go away from the booth...
I'll agree, Jeff is doing great. I think they should ask Ward Burton to announce. He'd be a great commentator.
Well, Johnson done a great job tonight. Jr. did too. :yesnod:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 10, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
Brian Vickers filling in for Tony in he 500.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bedoqs7t3JQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bedoqs7t3JQ)
picking up right where he left off
My take on the new na$car...
The new charter system isn't that big of a deal unless your the wood brothers, maybe they can buy one next year.
The rich get richer as we all know. (Right Rob Kofman)
To bad for Tony I bet if he could he would just walk away now and not even try to return to cup racing. Bickers is a good choice to bad it sounds like he won't get to run all the races thanks to Childress trying to get his grandson a cup ride...(working the basspro sponsor angle)
I haven't watched the bud wreck fest yet, not sure I will...
Yah for Chase Elliott what a way to start your cup career I hope it's a great year for him.(FYI he won the pole for the 500)
The twin 125's (I know they are 150 duels now) should be boring as ever with only one of the 4 cars able to advance into the 500 in each race... 44 entered in a field of 40 cars instead of 43 cars 4 will go home 2 locked in on time and the top finisher in each test (duel) advances everyone else are just making laps.
I hope DW hangs it up next year...
Chase formats for everyone...
Heat races in the exfinity series could be entertaining but what about limited appearance from cup regulars?
Don't even get me started on the truck series count down clock...
Can Am Dual's tonight
Danica crashed again breaking in her new sponsor :smilielol:
Was very happy to see J.J. in it too :smilielol: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Although it sucked Kenseth & Truex were in it :brickwall:
:iagree:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 18, 2016, 09:53:48 PM
Can Am Dual's tonight
Danica crashed again breaking in her new sponsor :smilielol:
Was very happy to see J.J. in it too :smilielol: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Although it sucked Kenseth & Truex were in it :brickwall:
Now that was funny
Second half of the truck race tonight was a demo derby, holy crap! The last crash had one flip 13 times before stopping. Been a long time I seen anything flip like that at any track. Driver walked away unhurt :2thumbs:
Congrats to Johnny Sauter on the win! :cheers:
I missed the 2nd half of the truck race. From what I seen of it, they didn't even need the caution clock. Prof. MW was annoying as ever.
I did manage to watch Chase Elliot win the Xfinity race today. That was alright. He beat out Logano at the finish. Hope he learned a few things for tomorrow.
You're right about the truck race. I fell asleep during the middle of the Xfinity race for about 50 laps. And what I did see was super boring :P
Here is the end of the truck race with the flip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq1Z6YzlqoU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq1Z6YzlqoU)
ok with the Hamlin Truex race at the end. very few moments in this one.
norm for the 10. :D fan was upset with the 88 mishap :rofl: Kenseth just goofed up.
Jap cars were running 1,2,3,4,5 on the inside line with just a few laps to go. :brickwall:
Great finish. NASCAR has to be happy that their preferred partner at Daytona won.
That was a great race. JJ's crew flubbed up, and Jr. raced like he did a couple years ago, with the resulting finish. I'm especially glad the Hamlin didn't just settle for 4th, but am surprised that Kyle didn't step out to make a move forward. Next race at Atlanta will be interesting with the new rules package. It's supposed to be the low down force package they had at Kentucky and Chicago last year.
Yawn....
I agree!!
Here's a shocker... Stewart Haas moves to Ford next year.
Pretty soon, it is only going to be Ford's and Toyota's :rotz:
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 25, 2016, 10:33:39 AM
Pretty soon, it is only going to be Ford's and Toyota's :rotz:
In the DAYTONA 500 there was 20 Chevy's, 11 Ford's and 9 Toyota's
Really? Mostly all they were talking about as the Toyota's & Ford's.
3 of those Chevys were Stewart H :popcrn:aas cars
I never saw a fueling penalty before.
Me either, and from the sound of it, it was just a new rule put inot place that morning or weekend D.W. was saying. BORING race though. I slept through almost all of it, and never missed anything.
Who got the fueling penalty? I missed the last 50.
kenseth. Gas man laid the track bar tool on the trunk while engaging the gas can. Then his crew chief didn't call him to do a pass through, so he got the black flag with the x which meant he wasn't getting counted for his lap. went 2 laps down and never came back. Was top 5 before that.
snooz fest :rotz:
Yeah
My Uncle calls it NAPCAR
That's when He does His best napping. :smilielol:
For the most part, that is true for me too. :P :lol:
A win for Brad :cheers: It would be much nicer if he was still in the Dodge :shruggy:
Much better then K.B. or Logano. Super boring though. I am not fond of the Vegas track, or Kansas, or Chicago. All those races are boring
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 04, 2016, 06:30:48 PM
Injured Tony Stewart to miss start of final NASCAR season
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/injured-tony-stewart-miss-start-final-nascar-season-185835673--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/injured-tony-stewart-miss-start-final-nascar-season-185835673--nascar.html)
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Tony Stewart will miss the start of his final NASCAR season after fracturing his back in an accident on an all-terrain vehicle, Stewart-Haas Racing said Thursday.
The three-time NASCAR champion sustained a ''burst fracture of the L1 vertebra'' when he crashed on an ATV Sunday and he had surgery Wednesday, the team said. A timetable for Stewart's return has not been determined, but SHR said he is expected to make a full recovery and race this year.
I had an identical injury also riding an ATV except a piece of the vertebra shaped as an arrowhead compressed my spinal colum0n 88%.
I too was riding on sand dunes, Oregon coast. Winchester Bay, supposedly the steepest sand dunes in North America.
As I reread his injury it dawned on me that my injury was called the same identical terminology wise. Now I wonder how he crashed?
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on March 08, 2016, 06:12:51 PM
Now I wonder how he crashed?
Well, he does own the #10 car. Danica is rubbing off on his abilities, nuff said :lol:
I'm sorry, I had to throw that in. I know it's not a funny thing to happen.
Note on Johnson's dashboard tomorrow: Make sure steering wheel is secure. :lol:
I wish they would limit the amount of races a full time cup driver can go down and beat up on the kids in xfinity. I am getting real tired of seeing Kyle down there. I would rather they didn't allow them to drive down there at all.
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 12, 2016, 08:18:33 PM
I wish they would limit the amount of races a full time cup driver can go down and beat up on the kids in xfinity. I am getting real tired of seeing Kyle down there. I would rather they didn't allow them to drive down there at all.
not that I watch nascar anymore, but ------ :iagree:
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 12, 2016, 08:18:33 PM
I wish they would limit the amount of races a full time cup driver can go down and beat up on the kids in xfinity. I am getting real tired of seeing Kyle down there. I would rather they didn't allow them to drive down there at all.
Basically what I said on a MRN post on FaceBook. Cup drivers have always raced in lesser series, but usually not full time. I would be okay if they said the cup drivers can run in the lesser series, but no more then half of the races every season. I'm tied of seeing Kyle win every race every week too. Although, I did sleep through most of the race anyway, lol.
I thought the rookies Ryan B and Chase did pretty good Today.
I'm not a huge Carl Edwards fan but He made for a fun finish.
Did everyone enjoy the Xfinity race today?
there was a race on?
Quote from: JB400 on March 19, 2016, 07:44:22 PM
Did everyone enjoy the Xfinity race today?
Yeah, the last 2 laps was worth watching it. It was funny to see how much a sore looser K.B. still is. But all the same, I'll give him credit for trying on a flat tire the last lap. :yesnod:
I slept through 100 laps of the race Sunday.
There was some moments of real good door to door racing. This is the FIRST race at that track, that I will actually say it was not boring. Truex is NOT happy with Logano and said he will race him differently from now on. Danica actually has a good reason to be pissed at Kahne. I see some payback coming for both. Until the last few laps, it was a good race for once.
Kyle Busch fined $10k for not fulfilling media requirements after Xfinity race, Danica fined $20k for walking towards racing surface.
http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2016/3/24/11299812/nascar-penalties-danica-patrick-kyle-busch-auto-club-speedway
Pocket change to them :P
Quote from: TruckDriver on March 25, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
Pocket change to them :P
Sure is. Not a real penalty at all.
From the head scratcher department: I don't understand why Audi would want to get involved in NASCAR.
Audi to NASCAR?: While many have speculated that Audi is looking to enter Formula One, NASCAR.com's Matthew Dillner says the German manufacturer is preparing to enter stock-car racing with NASCAR. "I've heard rumors for two years of Audi entering #NASCAR and know the interest has been there," Dillner tweeted on Tuesday. "My prediction is that it will happen."(AutoWeek)(3-23-2016)
And... I think Kimi in NASCAR would be a hoot.
F1's Kimi Raikkonen to NASCAR in 2017?: If rumors hold any weight, the sun is setting on Kimi Raikkonen's Formula One career, and he may look to land in NASCAR. He started racing again with the Ferrari team in 2014 (after racing with them from 2007 to 2009) and has just three podium finishes in 39 races. For the last year, many have speculated that Red Bull Racing's Daniel Ricciardo has his eye on Raikkonen's seat for 2017. In the past, he raced in the World Rally Championship and NASCAR Camping World Truck Series and Xfinity Series. It's his NASCAR experience -- one race in each the trucks series and Xfinity series in 2011 -- that is fueling the latest rumors. According to Tanja Bauer of Sky Sport News, Raikkonen could end up in a seat with Stewart-Haas Racing in 2017. It's all conjecture at this point. Stewart-Haas Racing co-owner and three-time NASCAR Sprint Cup winner Tony Stewart is retiring at the end of the season and giving up his seat to Clint Bowyer. The team also employs drivers Kevin Harvick, Danica Patrick and Kurt Busch. Right now there doesn't seem to be room for Raikkonen [as the team is at the max of four cars/drivers]. So if he were to join SHR, it would mean a current driver would leave. The best scenarios for that would be either Harvick or Patrick taking a hike [but Harvick says he is staying and Patrcik is signed thru 2018].(full post at AutoWeek)(3-24-2016)
NASCAR, A good case of how to much publicity is NOT a good thing. So much for a American sport. :P
What was MW thinking today? That was one of the dumbest things I'd seen today.
Quote from: JB400 on May 01, 2016, 07:42:12 PM
What was MW thinking today? That was one of the dumbest things I'd seen today.
What do you mean? He got shoved off the track at a buck ninety-five.
The idiot D.W. says "I just don't know what to say" after all the mayhem. Well D.W. it's called restrictor racing. It begs for big wrecks. :slap:
Quote from: Aero426 on May 01, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: JB400 on May 01, 2016, 07:42:12 PM
What was MW thinking today? That was one of the dumbest things I'd seen today.
What do you mean? He got shoved off the track at a buck ninety-five.
He could of let up instead of heading into the corner at full bore and causing calamity like he did.
you can't just slam on the brakes doing close to 200 mph and expect to stop all that quick....
Brad wins his second of the year. I know all the cars are the same, but I would like it more if there was a Dodge on some cars. That's how I became a Brad fan.
That was the first Dega race I haven't fallen asleep during it in years, lol.
Wow
Truex JR had a great run, To bad the pit crew cost Him the race. :brickwall:
I know. He had that race won easily :rotz:
Then to add to the grief, Ky.B. won again :P
Anyone watch the three part special on the start of NASCAR? Part 1 was on last night. pretty good but needs to be taped there is almost an hour of commercials in this two hour program.
Quote from: 41husk on May 09, 2016, 09:14:24 AM
Anyone watch the three part special on the start of NASCAR? Part 1 was on last night. pretty good but needs to be taped there is almost an hour of commercials in this two hour program.
what station was that on?
not sure it was on 219 direct tv I think :shruggy:
I have no clue about it :P
It's on CMT
Thanks :cheers:
219 is FS1 on DTV but cant find the show? DTV doesnt keep past shows ::)
If you run across the next episode please post.
Thanks!
I will
From Jayski's NASCAR Silly Season Site
The team of Kansas race winner Kyle Busch has been penalized by NASCAR for violating the new rule that all lug nuts be "installed in a safe and secure manner" at all times. Crew chief Adam Stevens and the teams' front tire changer have been suspended for one race and Stevens has been fined $20,000.
Guilty as charged...
Joe Gibbs Racing will not appeal penalty: Joe Gibbs Racing announces it will not appeal the penalty issued by NASCAR earlier this afternoon to its #18 team. The 18 team utilized unaltered stock lug nuts during Saturday night's NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race at Kansas Speedway and each wheel had all five lug nuts attached to the wheel at the conclusion of the race. The team does acknowledge that not all lug nuts were tightened to the wheel.(Joe Gibbs Racing)(5-11-2016)
I think destroying your race car at the end of the race should lead to a driver being suspended for one race also. IMHO
Might of been planned that way hoping to hide the lug nut issue.
Thats possible but costly
Program alert: The 2nd part of the 3 part Nascar show on CMT is on tomorrow at 8 pm CST.
I thought Larson and Elliot done a good job today making the race interesting there at the end for Kenseth. I was really hoping Larson would have won it though. Too bad I missed the wreck that took out JJ and Jr. :brickwall:
Thanks guys actually found it and have the series recording! :2thumbs:
Quote from: JB400 on May 14, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
Program alert: The 2nd part of the 3 part Nascar show on CMT is on tomorrow at 8 pm CST.
Only saw the last few minutes. They got a Ken Squier look alike to fake the call of the 79 race with the fight. That in an of itself was super corn ball. They must not have been able to get the rights to use the original CBS material.
I watched episode 2 last night. It is much better recorded so you can skip the commercials. I am not joking it is at least 50/50 show to commercials :brickwall:
Watched Episode 2 last night... :2thumbs: Its the Mopar Series and Hemi Ban....so if you need to watch one that is the one!
The Petty Era! :coolgleamA:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/kevin-harvick-signs-extension-stay-stewart-haas-160249121--nascar.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/kevin-harvick-signs-extension-stay-stewart-haas-160249121--nascar.html)
my comments on the all star race.
I liked the confusion.
cars looked fast on the track
HATED listening to mike joy and darrell smacking food while they talked
and last but not least,
HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP JEFF GORDON ON FOX?????????????
he totally sucks, and I think it is funny/pathetic they have to explain so much stuff to him
I thought it sucked that Kenseth broke the rules which resulted in many drivers paying the price. Didn't make any sense to me to punish all the other drivers for his team error. Tony made a nice comment about it. And then all the idiot Darrel could do was worry about how Matt could manage to get back on the lead lap. :brickwall:
To me, the best thing that happened was the big crash. The rest was a total JOKE and boring. I agree about the announcers talking with their mouth full. Unprofessional :rotz:
600 miles of boredom....
Worse yet, a rice burner won. :eek2:
Quote from: odcics2 on May 30, 2016, 05:51:31 AM
600 miles of boredom....
Worse yet, a rice burner won. :eek2:
I agree, but I still like Truex, so I was happy for him.
:iagree:
Would of helped if Fox would have shown more of the race, and less of the commercials. I'm sure there were some cars further back in the pack that were racing.
Class act !! :smilielol:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/6/28/danica-patrick-dan-patrick-show-interview-kasey-kahne-tony-stewart.html
#48 JJ into the wall hard, in the garage
#22 Lagano into the wall even harder, also in the garage
good evening, so far
Chase Elliot & Ryan Blaney in the wall.....
a spectator's truck is on fire in the parking lot....
First race in a while I was able to stay awake for
Quote from: A383Wing on July 09, 2016, 07:32:08 PM
#48 JJ into the wall hard, in the garage
#22 Lagano into the wall even harder, also in the garage
good evening, so far
Damn, I apparently slept through both of those. It was around lap 80 something I woke up, or just before the Elliot & Ryan Blaney crash. Was a crash with the 44 car & Almindinger in it. I think I dozed off before the start of the race because I don't even remember that, lol
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 10, 2016, 08:53:45 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 09, 2016, 07:32:08 PM
#48 JJ into the wall hard, in the garage
#22 Lagano into the wall even harder, also in the garage
good evening, so far
Damn, I apparently slept through both of those. It was around lap 80 something I woke up, or just before the Elliot & Ryan Blaney crash. Was a crash with the 44 car & Almindinger in it. I think I dozed off before the start of the race because I don't even remember that, lol
Hope you weren't on the road! :rofl:
:lol:
No, my comfy chair. I had to get up at 2:30 in the morning for work Saturday, so I was dead by the time the race came on tv :P
Dale Jr. won't be in the N H race this weekend, due to concussion like symptoms
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/7/14/dale-earnhardt-jr-missing-new-hampshire-race-with-concussion-symptoms.html
I hope he is okay. May not even watch this week. I never liked the N.H. track. BORING track to the max.
Kenseth cheated??? http://beyondtheflag.com/2016/07/18/nascar-matt-kenseth-forced-forfeit-new-hampshire-win/
This whole technology thing with inspection is B.S. period. If they would go back to basics OTHER then the safety features, run what you brung, it would be less of this crap with the car settling during the duration of the race stuff. Short tracks do just fine that way yet today. I can see nailing someone for major modifications and stuff. :RantExplode:
Just in case anyone cares, the Nascar trucks are racing at Eldora Speedway dirt track tonight at 9pm eastern time
they are qualifying now....race is on FS1
I only check this site about once a day now, and had no idea about the race. Never heard anything about it again this year one tv or the radio. It's like Nascar does all they can to NOT promote this race. I never knew anything about it, until someone mentioned it on Facebook this morning. I never yet seen them race on the dirt track.
Do you guys miss Montoya and his peculiar racing style? xD
Kinda. I liked his stubbornness and he was always a interesting topic for the race announcers.
But look at all the money the tracks are saving by not replacing trucks and track surfaces that he runs into
Quote from: A383Wing on July 22, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
But look at all the money the tracks are saving by not replacing trucks and track surfaces that he runs into
:lol: :lol:
Yea, I know how it is if you aren't rooting for one of the "favorites" to win, but to totally ignore cars and drivers caught up in crashes, and not explaining what they are doing when they come back from break. If Jeffy would have sneezed they would have talked about it till the end. But no, they don't say one sticking word. Thought after we switched channels, just maybe they would include all drivers in their updates. Heck no, just the favs over here too. Gordon gets the big interview after the race with a 13th place finish. The other drivers get no recognition.
I think I am done. They have destroyed my sport, and are so one sided to the popular drivers that it sickens me.
was i the only one who had the thought that when kyle was walking over to get the flag and jeff and tony were doing their parade lap, that just maybe they would drive through the smoke of kyle's burnout and accidently run him over?
:slap: :nana: :2thumbs: :drive: :stirthepot:
Once I knew Kyle was going to win again, I turned off the race. As it was, I slept through 3/4 of it. Nascar is pretty much dead. Looked like less then a 1000 people in the stands last night, and maybe around 5000 today if that. Someone that is a friend of a friend of mine that lives in Indy, said there was VERY little promotion of the race. So little, there was people thinking they weren't even running there this week.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 22, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
Kinda. I liked his stubbornness and he was always a interesting topic for the race announcers.
Yeah...
He really did bring some freshness into Nascar.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 24, 2016, 07:35:48 PM
Once I knew Kyle was going to win again, I turned off the race. As it was, I slept through 3/4 of it. Nascar is pretty much dead. Looked like less then a 1000 people in the stands last night, and maybe around 5000 today if that. Someone that is a friend of a friend of mine that lives in Indy, said there was VERY little promotion of the race. So little, there was people thinking they weren't even running there this week.
They raced this weekend? :smilielol:
I'm sure with the over hype of the 100th Indy race most of the locals could have cared less and the speedway knew they had all the local money so they might have figured why wast advertising money :slap:
You guys saw that Keselowski crash? That looked very scary indeed. Glad he is OK.
Quote from: peter123wallace on July 26, 2016, 09:08:11 PM
You guys saw that Keselowski crash? That looked very scary indeed. Glad he is OK.
No, and never heard anything about one that happened.
here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn1IpSkMMJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn1IpSkMMJU)
Doesn't look that bad. Looks like any other crash there.
Yeah i suppose you are right.
81 mph at point of impact. Hard enough.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 24, 2016, 07:35:48 PM
Once I knew Kyle was going to win again, I turned off the race. As it was, I slept through 3/4 of it. Nascar is pretty much dead. Looked like less then a 1000 people in the stands last night, and maybe around 5000 today if that. Someone that is a friend of a friend of mine that lives in Indy, said there was VERY little promotion of the race. So little, there was people thinking they weren't even running there this week.
With you on the dead part. This was the first race I watched this year and it seems to me there were more people there working for the race teams than fans in the stands. won't put out much effort to watch another race.
Mike
As to the comments earlier about cheating penalties & forfeiting wins -
Back in the early days of NASCAR there were a couple incidents of changing race winners after postrace teardowns, and cars crossing finish lines so close they had to review photos the next day, etc. The crowds weren't happy going home not knowing who won yet.
So big Bill France started making a point of declaring a winner at the end of the race and letting the win stand no matter what. He elected to punish cheating with fines & points losses but not yanking wins. NASCAR has mostly kept on with that policy.
anybody want to place a bet on which JGR team wins today?
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 31, 2016, 06:36:57 AM
anybody want to place a bet on which JGR team wins today?
...in front of empty grandstands and dwindling viewers. :Twocents:
:iagree: :sleep:
Quote from: odcics2 on July 31, 2016, 07:02:19 AM
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 31, 2016, 06:36:57 AM
anybody want to place a bet on which JGR team wins today?
...in front of empty grandstands and dwindling viewers. :Twocents:
actually they said the sunday race was sold out at pocono, too bad for the rain
Got to give Chris Buescher a :cheers: for the win today. That ought to make Roush happy. Hopefully, he can get in the top 30
Anyone see the Xfinity race at the Glen yesterday? Pretty wild how Derrick Copes car exploded and pretty much blew most of it off the car. As of this morning, no one still knows what caused that. Not even Napcar. Even the announcers were baffled about it. They impounded the car, just to figure out what caused that.
Looked like a violently blown tire to me... :shruggy: :Twocents:
Quote from: odcics2 on August 07, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
Looked like a violently blown tire to me... :shruggy: :Twocents:
But the tire on the side of the explosion, was not flat. You could see that clearly
I'm thinking it's a blown tire as well. The right side was flat for some reason, and there was a lot of brake dust everywhere.
Local NASCAR radio show suspected they had an alternative (not legal) gas used to fill the tire.
The NASCAR Trucks are running at Bristol tonight, 5:30 Pacific time, 8:30 Eastern time, Channel FS1
Ugh, I didn't see your post until now. I was bored too last night :P
Night race in Bristol for the cup cars at 7:30est, 4:30pst....on NBCSN
Rained out last night around lap 40. Supposed to be run today ay 1pm EASTERN time, but looking at the radar, it doesn't look good for today either. Lot of heavy rain headed their way. I'm thinking they will end up running it tomorrow :brickwall: :P
They are getting ready to restart the race right now at 3:38pm Central time. Cars are on the track. No more rain in sight.
yup..cars are on the track....channel CNBC
First lady Of NASCAR Betty Jane France dies
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Betty Jane France, a longtime community leader considered by many to be the first lady Of NASCAR, has died.
Lesa France Kennedy said her mother died Monday evening. A statement from NASCAR on Tuesday did not disclose details of her death, including her age.
France was executive vice president and assistant treasurer of NASCAR and chair of the NASCAR Foundation. France was married to the late Bill France Jr., son of NASCAR founder Bill France. Her son, Brian, is chairman and CEO of NASCAR and France Kennedy is CEO of International Speedway Corp.
France was champion of health care for children, helping establish the ''Speediatrics'' children's care unit at Halifax Health in Daytona Beach and at Homestead Hospital in Homestead, Florida.
The Betty Jane France Humanitarian Award was created in her honor in 2011.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/first-lady-nascar-betty-jane-france-dies-171142062--nascar.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/news/first-lady-nascar-betty-jane-france-dies-171142062--nascar.html)
I kinda saw this coming........
Earnhardt to miss rest of NASCAR season with concussion
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/earnhardt-miss-rest-nascar-season-concussion-141800554--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/earnhardt-miss-rest-nascar-season-concussion-141800554--nascar.html)
I bet by next season, he retires from racing.
those things add up, he may not make it back, if he does, one more good hit :brickwall: will end his career
not that I watched or anything, but how many times is a toyota going to fail post race inspection before they figure out what these guys are doing?
Truex didn't fail or did he?
yes, the car failed....
Martin Truex Jr. is advancing to the next round of the Chase, though he's advancing with the help of an illegal car.
Truex's car failed post-race inspection after he took the checkered flag in Sunday's Chase-opening Sprint Cup Series race at Chicago. NASCAR announced earlier in the week that it would take the win away from cars that had serious post-race laser inspection failures, but said Sunday that the failure by Truex's team wasn't severe enough to endanger his win.
kyle's truck failed post race after winning friday night
hasnt a bunch of winning JGR cars failed this year after winning?
Quote from: A383Wing on September 19, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
yes, the car failed....
Martin Truex Jr. is advancing to the next round of the Chase, though he's advancing with the help of an illegal car.
Truex's car failed post-race inspection after he took the checkered flag in Sunday's Chase-opening Sprint Cup Series race at Chicago. NASCAR announced earlier in the week that it would take the win away from cars that had serious post-race laser inspection failures, but said Sunday that the failure by Truex's team wasn't severe enough to endanger his win.
even though he failed it, if chase had restarted on the outside row instead of martin, I think martin would have not won
http://fortune.com/2016/09/19/nascar-discrimination-lawsuit/
I wonder if the new Nascar team owner guaranteed starting spot program has anything to do with this?
Quote from: A383Wing on September 19, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
yes, the car failed....
Martin Truex Jr. is advancing to the next round of the Chase, though he's advancing with the help of an illegal car.
Truex's car failed post-race inspection after he took the checkered flag in Sunday's Chase-opening Sprint Cup Series race at Chicago. NASCAR announced earlier in the week that it would take the win away from cars that had serious post-race laser inspection failures, but said Sunday that the failure by Truex's team wasn't severe enough to endanger his win.
:flame: :brickwall:
I honestly think they need for all teams, not just the teams I like, re-write the ride height rule. Add more tolerances or something. Of course a car will settle after a race.
Quote from: Chargen69 on September 19, 2016, 10:12:00 PM
kyle's truck failed post race after winning friday night
hasnt a bunch of winning JGR cars failed this year after winning?
Yes they have :yesnod:
at the moment, not many others are failing the post race laser. and not many others are regularly winning either, there has to be a connection
I bet Chad K is beating himself up every day trying to figure out what the toyotas are doine
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-not-penalizing-jimmie-johnson-and-martin-truex-jr-for-inspection-failures-222051527.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-not-penalizing-jimmie-johnson-and-martin-truex-jr-for-inspection-failures-222051527.html)
now they are saying JJ failed too
NASCAR Hall of Fame damaged in Charlotte protests :icon_smile_angry:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-hall-fame-damaged-charlotte-protests-132709668--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-hall-fame-damaged-charlotte-protests-132709668--nascar.html)
I was at the race today, and when Denny blew up, everybody around me cheered like crazy
QuoteI was at the race today, and when Denny blew up, everybody around me cheered like crazy
You mean all 6 people within shouting distance?
Tough race for chasers....
where I was in turn one it was about half full... so a few more than six. looked like turn 4 had nobody in it.
my point was nobody paid to go see denny win a race
in fact, I only saw one flag for the 18, and that was the only toyota anything we saw, no shirts no hats no nothing
But how many cheered for J.J. when he won? :brickwall:
about 1/4 of the people in the stands we were in, including me
anyone know time an stationof talledega to air later or rerun later ??? ??? thanks DJ out west :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: djcarguy on October 22, 2016, 02:54:11 AM
anyone know time an stationof talledega to air later or rerun later ??? ??? thanks DJ out west :popcrn: :popcrn:
go to www.nascar.com and you will find what you need to know
http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm
2:00 pm eastern time on nbcsn.
YES!!! I been waiting for NASCAR to do something about this. Specially Kyle Busch winning every damn race he is in. Takes the fun out of the lower class races when the cup guys win everything.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/10/26/2017-limitations-sprint-cup-drivers-xfinity-truck-series-races.html (http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2016/10/26/2017-limitations-sprint-cup-drivers-xfinity-truck-series-races.html)
Was that a world speed record for a pump jack on Sunday!! :lol:
It's been an ongoing problem for years. At least it opens the door for more rookie drivers in the series.
I went to the Xfinity race Yesterday at TMS, It was fun but Brad led the race all day. Got a little boring.
The last restart was fun. Kyle Larson pulled it out with a great push from Saddler. :2thumbs:
Lets not talk about what happened tonight. :cheers:
It was a fun race.
I thought Carl was too aggressive with the block on Joey but He did what He had to do, Joey was going to beat Him.
I really didn't want to see JJ win another championship.
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 20, 2016, 08:10:54 PM
I really didn't want to see JJ win another championship.
yea, me either....
I'm am good with NO toyota winning it.
and Joey's stupid helmet looked so bad I am glad he didnt win it.
so...........
go 48!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:popcrn:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2016, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: 400/6/PAC on November 20, 2016, 08:10:54 PM
I really didn't want to see JJ win another championship.
yea, me either....
Me either :icon_smile_dissapprove: :brickwall: :rotz:
:drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive:
get ready to hear "7 time" ALL next year :icon_smile_big: :rofl: :slap:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 20, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
:drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive:
get ready to hear "7 time" ALL next year :icon_smile_big: :rofl: :slap:
I'll just watch the races, mute the tv, and listen to music, lol.
jimmy is a good driver but the pre-madona drivers of today dont equal to what the drivers in the past had to go thru. no air conditioning, additional safety gear, safety walls, good brakes, power steering, being flown to all the races, huge car haulers, exc...a frail little girl could race the cars of today. so he may be 7 time champion but he is not equal to petty or earnhardt.
Quotejimmy is a good driver but the pre-madona drivers of today dont equal to what the drivers in the past had to go thru. no air conditioning, additional safety gear, safety walls, good brakes, power steering, being flown to all the races, huge car haulers, exc...a frail little girl could race the cars of today. so he may be 7 time champion but he is not equal to petty or earnhardt.
On the other hand the field of competitors was not as tight as it is now. Petty or Earndhardt might have been dealing with 3 or 5 serious competitors in a given race. Now there will be a dozen cars with a shot at winning. Somebody like Petty in the 1960s could also afford to run more races than most teams. And everyone was still finding WAY,
WAY bigger holes in the rulebook & inspections than today.
It's hard to really compare the two eras.
On yet another hand, Petty ran against Pearson, Yarbrough, the Allison Brothers, Foyt, Baker, Glotzbach, Jones, Gurney, Isaac and others with good equipment equal to his...
Most of the guys today "can win", but hardly ever do.
Biffle to part ways with RFR after 19 Years.
He say's It's a mutual agreement.
I wonder where He's going or if He might retire with smoke. :scratchchin:
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 21, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
It's hard to really compare the two eras.
Absolutely right. At the minimum you can say that Petty, Earnhardt and Johnson are the best of their own eras.
While apples to apples is hard, I will say this: Johnson has won 7 titles in 15 years. That is no BS. With the number of drivers competing on superteams that are all "haves" , it is much harder to win repeat titles today than it was in in the not so recent past.
Johnson has won titles in each of the three formats:
1- the original "Winston Cup" points system,
2- the first version of the Chase
3- the current "winner take all" Chase
I have no doubt that some people do not like Johnson because he's vanilla. He's not flashy. He does not speak badly of others. He's like a machine clicking off laps.
When Johnson was interviewed on track before going to victory lane, he thanked a bunch of people. One of them he mentioned was Al Schill Jr. Al's father is a living short track legend in Wisconsin. His son Al Jr was also a racer with talent that passed at the age of 24. When Johnson was learning how to race oval track pavement cars in ASA (at the time, he wasn't all that good), he hung out with Al Jr and they would race cars around the family junkyard. At night. In the dark. When Johnson mentioned Al Jr, whom almost no one tuning in would know, that was total class move.
If you consider Johnson to be a silver spoon driver, please read this piece from 2007.
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html (http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html)
That article is a good read.
My favorite quote:
"You say I'm a silver-spoon kid? It would have made life a lot easier for me. But my mom's a school bus driver and my dad is a heavy equipment operator."
No more Sprint cup series.
Starting 1/1/17 it will become the Monster energy cup series.
i thought they were dropping the word "cup"
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2016, 10:03:12 AM
When Johnson was interviewed on track before going to victory lane, he thanked a bunch of people. One of them he mentioned was Al Schill Jr. Al's father is a living short track legend in Wisconsin. His son Al Jr was also a racer with talent that passed at the age of 24. When Johnson was learning how to race oval track pavement cars in ASA (at the time, he wasn't all that good), he hung out with Al Jr and they would race cars around the family junkyard. At night. In the dark. When Johnson mentioned Al Jr, whom almost no one tuning in would know, that was total class move.
If you consider Johnson to be a silver spoon driver, please read this piece from 2007.
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html (http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html)
That IS cool of Johnson to do that, but I still don't like him. He just seems to "cocky" to me.
Saw this on Facebook, thought it is worth posting here too....
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 04, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2016, 10:03:12 AM
When Johnson was interviewed on track before going to victory lane, he thanked a bunch of people. One of them he mentioned was Al Schill Jr. Al's father is a living short track legend in Wisconsin. His son Al Jr was also a racer with talent that passed at the age of 24. When Johnson was learning how to race oval track pavement cars in ASA (at the time, he wasn't all that good), he hung out with Al Jr and they would race cars around the family junkyard. At night. In the dark. When Johnson mentioned Al Jr, whom almost no one tuning in would know, that was total class move.
If you consider Johnson to be a silver spoon driver, please read this piece from 2007.
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html (http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/29325009.html)
That IS cool of Johnson to do that, but I still don't like him. He just seems to "cocky" to me.
if anybody has the right be cocky it may be JJ, I mean, he has been whipping the dog mess out of jeff gordon since he has been there
Chrysler eyes return to NASCAR racing
http://www.news-journalonline.com/sports/20161204/chrysler-eyes-return-to-nascar-racing (http://www.news-journalonline.com/sports/20161204/chrysler-eyes-return-to-nascar-racing)
"DAYTONA BEACH — Sergio Marchionne, who is the CEO of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, said he spoke with NASCAR vice-chairman Jim France and International Speedway Inc. CEO Lesa France Kennedy about the return of Dodge to the stock-car series.
The three had dinner Saturday night during the Ferrari Finali Mondiali at Daytona International Speedway. Marchionne, who is also CEO of Ferrari, was in town for the Ferrari-only World Finals and Sunday's Formula One exhibition.
Dodge returned to NASCAR in 2001, then exited in 2012 just after Brad Keselowski won the Cup Series championship for the American-made nameplate.
Asked about the return to NASCAR, Marchionne said, "Yes," then explained it.
"I talked to Jim France about this (Saturday) night," he said. "I was the one who made the decision to pull out of NASCAR. I am the guilty party at the table. In 2009, we came out bankruptcy and tried to race NASCAR (but) with the big bills and make payroll was a stretch.
"We are in a different place now. I think it is possible we can come back to NASCAR. I think we need to find the right way to come back in, but I agreed with both Jim and Lesa we would come back to the issue."
France confirmed that he had spoken to Marchionne about bringing Dodge back into NASCAR's top series, now sponsored by Monster Energy.
"Yes, we talked," France said. "He is a very intelligent man. We had a good discussion."
So according to this timeline they would be 2 years out at best :shruggy:
Any manufacturer wanting to come into NASCAR for the 2017 season would have had to make a formal request by September 2015. The current NASCAR rules require race-car renderings for new models to be submitted by more than a year before they ever are raced on the track. The deadline is Oct. 1 (more than 15 months before the actual debut), if the production car is already in production, and Jan. 1 (13 months before the debut), if the production car will start being sold in the year the Cup model debuts. A full-scale race car must be submitted to NASCAR by April 1 prior to the year of debut. To accomplish those tasks, an incoming manufacturer likely would have to hire some top personnel away from current NASCAR teams, and that has yet to happen (ESPN)
People are tripping all over Sergio's comments. If there is one thing that Sergio loves, it is the sound of his own voice. He is a narcissist of the first order.
He really said nothing, other than "it would be nice to be back". Yet he says killed the program. He killed the Viper race program the day after they won the title.
What Sergio did not say is who would pay for everything. The Dodge dealers covered the cost of the last go 'round. The other question is, "Who are the teams that would come back to Dodge for start-up program?" The teams won't do it on their dime. You think it's any cheaper now compared to when they pulled out? It would be very expensive.
It would be nice to have Dodge back. But I think this talk is nothing more than "making nice" for the media at a company event at Daytona.
Quote from: bristol on November 22, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
That article is a good read.
My favorite quote:
"You say I'm a silver-spoon kid? It would have made life a lot easier for me. But my mom's a school bus driver and my dad is a heavy equipment operator."
More. This is Johnson's home where he grew up. #silverspoon
I aint a carl fan at all, but this is shocking
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/carl-edwards-will-not-race-in-2017-to-pursue-other-interests-153715718.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/carl-edwards-will-not-race-in-2017-to-pursue-other-interests-153715718.html)
That is a surprise. Who would have thought. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. It must be pretty big whatever he's going to do to quit on top of his game.
Quote from: JB400 on January 10, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
That is a surprise. Who would have thought. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. It must be pretty big whatever he's going to do to quit on top of his game.
So, aside from the plausible "personal / health / family issues" explanation, 'they' are saying maybe Dodge offered him a boat load of money to be their guy when they come back in '18 and 'retiring' was a way to get out of his JGR deal.
Interesting theory. We'll have to wait and see if Dodge does officially come back. I wonder what teams will make the switch to Dodge.
Quote from: Ponch ® on January 10, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: JB400 on January 10, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
That is a surprise. Who would have thought. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. It must be pretty big whatever he's going to do to quit on top of his game.
So, aside from the plausible "personal / health / family issues" explanation, 'they' are saying maybe Dodge offered him a boat load of money to be their guy when they come back in '18 and 'retiring' was a way to get out of his JGR deal.
I'm betting he got his bell rung pretty good a couple of times this year and maybe had concussion things that he only let his Dr wife know
This has a better explanation for why Edwards is leaving racing. In this, it sounds like he just doesn't want to race no more.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carl-edwards-steps-away-nascar-avoids-retirement-153441304--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carl-edwards-steps-away-nascar-avoids-retirement-153441304--nascar.html)
Carl Edwards makes pure and private decision to leave NASCAR
Carl Edwards pauses as he speaks to the media during a news conference at Joe Gibbs Racing in Huntersville, N.C., Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2017. Edwards announced he was stepping away from racing. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)
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HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- Carl Edwards listed reason after reason for stepping away from full-time NASCAR competition this season, less than two months removed from nearly winning his first Cup title.
He's content with his career accomplishments. He wants to spend more time on his outside interests. He's healthy and doesn't want that to change.
Edwards, one of NASCAR's top stars and driver for a top organization, really seemed at peace with a personal decision he made right before Christmas. But for a brief moment, he had to turn his back to the audience and compose himself.
''Yeah, I just want to be a good person, you know?'' he said, his bottom lip quivering.
Edwards quickly recovered and returned to script. He has so many outside interests - aviation, agriculture, a possible career in politics - that he literally has no idea what will come next.
''There's no life raft I am jumping on to, I'm just jumping,'' he said. ''This is a pure, simple, personal decision.''"
Quote from: TruckDriver on January 11, 2017, 04:49:25 PM
This has a better explanation for why Edwards is leaving racing. In this, it sounds like he just doesn't want to race no more.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carl-edwards-steps-away-nascar-avoids-retirement-153441304--nascar.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carl-edwards-steps-away-nascar-avoids-retirement-153441304--nascar.html)
Carl Edwards makes pure and private decision to leave NASCAR
Carl Edwards pauses as he speaks to the media during a news conference at Joe Gibbs Racing in Huntersville, N.C., Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2017. Edwards announced he was stepping away from racing. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)
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HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- Carl Edwards listed reason after reason for stepping away from full-time NASCAR competition this season, less than two months removed from nearly winning his first Cup title.
He's content with his career accomplishments. He wants to spend more time on his outside interests. He's healthy and doesn't want that to change.
Edwards, one of NASCAR's top stars and driver for a top organization, really seemed at peace with a personal decision he made right before Christmas. But for a brief moment, he had to turn his back to the audience and compose himself.
''Yeah, I just want to be a good person, you know?'' he said, his bottom lip quivering.
Edwards quickly recovered and returned to script. He has so many outside interests - aviation, agriculture, a possible career in politics - that he literally has no idea what will come next.
''There's no life raft I am jumping on to, I'm just jumping,'' he said. ''This is a pure, simple, personal decision.''"
This is gonna start happening more and more (athletes retiring while still in the prime or competitive), especially in the high risk sports like racing, football, hockey, fighting. They are becoming more and more informed about the long term risks and make too much money to keep hanging for another paycheck - unless theyre glory hounds, like Peyton Manning.
Good for Carl. Hes basically saying "screw it...gonna enjoy life while im still young"
I hope he excels in his next endeavors as well as he did in Nascar....my thoughts are with him and his family.
Thanks for the ride Carl, it was great
personally I havent cared a thing about carl since this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlge72GS6rU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlge72GS6rU)
cheered against him ever since
I totally agree with you 110% Ponch. And other then what you said, why not, he already has more money then you and me and probably ALL of us on the forum will ever have. Well, maybe not more the Troy because of his rock star status after creating this forum :smilielol:
Quote from: The70RT on February 19, 2008, 11:02:46 AM
Someday I want to get a 60's Belvedere and make a Petty stocker for the street ::)
I have a 1981 #42 STP Regal Street Legal Tribute car.
Just bought a 1974 #43 STP Dodge Charger Street Legal Tribute car.
Not sure how to post pics on here yet.
If you got to Street Legal Stock Car Tributes on Facebook you can see them
Nice cars. The main part of adding pics is to reduce the size of them. There are threads on this subject which can walk you through it.
....or just use photobucket....no resizing, no renaming and it just generates a link especially for forums that you just copy paste in the post...don't even have to use the "insert hyperlink" tab when posting....simples!
Quote from: Aero426 on November 22, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 21, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
It's hard to really compare the two eras.
Johnson has won titles in each of the three formats:
1- the original "Winston Cup" points system,
2- the first version of the Chase
3- the current "winner take all" Chase
I have no doubt that some people do not like Johnson because he's vanilla. He's not flashy. He does not speak badly of others. He's like a machine clicking off laps.
No to nitpick (and i know this is 2 months late), but his first Cup was in 2006 - the chase had been in place for 2 seasons. Still doesnt take away from the fact that hes absolutely dominated the sport.
Plus, according to those who like to figure out that kind of thing, he would have run away with one or two more if the old season long points system had been in place. Sure, there are other factors out there, but you lose some because of the rules and you win some because of the rules.
NASCAR will not permit damaged race cars to return to track
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-creates-traveling-safety-team-2017-153555856--nascar.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-creates-traveling-safety-team-2017-153555856--nascar.html)
NASCAR will not permit damaged race cars to return to the track this season unless the repairs can be made on pit road within a tight window.
The ban on wrecked race cars continuing to compete was announced Wednesday in a series of a rule updates for the 2017 season.
Beginning later this month at Daytona, if a car receives enough damage during an on-track incident that it must go to the garage for repairs, the team will not be allowed to repair it in an effort to get back on track. Damaged vehicles can be repaired on pit road during a five-minute cumulative time limit.
Under the new process:
- Body repairs are limited to the removal or reattachment of original parts with fasteners and tape.
- Rods and supports may be used to reinforce original panels.
- New or previously unused body panels are prohibited.
A good read on the new rules.
http://jeffgluck.com/grading-the-latest-nascar-tweaks/ (http://jeffgluck.com/grading-the-latest-nascar-tweaks/)
Looks like there'll only be 10 cars on the track, running by the end of Martinsville and Bristol
Nascar's changing the points system some more:
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2017/1/23/new-nascar-race-format-2017-announced.html
Quote from: JB400 on February 08, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
Looks like there'll only be 10 cars on the track, running by the end of Martinsville and Bristol
Or Daytona, Talladega, Dover or even after next Saturday's Shootout where it is only a few cars to start with.
I am totally done with nascar. I may watch daytona 500, maybe. but that will be it. I aint wasting no more of my life hoping it will get better
:slap: :brickwall: :flame: :'(
NOT MY NASCAR
Its probably a good rule. Nothing worse to watch than a car w no front end riding around in 37th place and getting lapped for 2 hours just to get an extra point or two. Its gotta suck for the drivers too.
That being said, they also need to adjust the points so that being out of the race isnt a huge penalty. Like cutting points altogether if you finish beyond a certain spot (25th) like F1 does. Plus the new points system will allow a driver to get some points even if they dont finish.
On the other hand, NASCAR is gonna have a headache trying to police drivers from taking each other out on purpose to screw the other guy over.
QuoteIts probably a good rule. Nothing worse to watch than a car w no front end riding around in 37th place and getting lapped for 2 hours just to get an extra point or two. Its gotta suck for the drivers too.
That being said, they also need to adjust the points so that being out of the race isnt a huge penalty. Like cutting points altogether if you finish beyond a certain spot (25th) like F1 does. Plus the new points system will allow a driver to get some points even if they dont finish.
On the other hand, NASCAR is gonna have a headache trying to police drivers from taking each other out on purpose to screw the other guy over.
Why not just quit awarding points for finishing way down at the back of the pack? They wouldn't need to ban driving damaged cars.
I gotta hand it to NASCAR: Every time I start thinking they've made the sport as corporate-ized & micro-managed & inoffensive as it possibly could be, they find something else to clamp down on.
Quote from: Chargen69 on January 12, 2017, 11:45:59 AM
personally I havent cared a thing about carl since this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlge72GS6rU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlge72GS6rU)
cheered against him ever since
Same for me, he showed his true colors that day...
I think he was paid to sit out this year by his sponsor so the sponsors son could take over. Carol only had one more year left on his contract why not drive one more year and then hang up??? Something fishy and time will tell.
New rules new look same ol BS I'll still record the race and watch the highlights tell 10 laps to go...
For anyone complaining about this, maybe you should check out the pit road girls of Indy and F1
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/02/monster-energy-girls-nascar
:lol:
Yah.. made my day too Truckdriver! He caused the situation, but of course little Kyle does nothing wrong... :hah:
If I'd had the windows open I probably could have heard the community cheering.
What a thug!
If by thug, you mean entitled cry baby, yes I agree!
I made it to the race Sunday afternoon at Texas Motor Speedway. Nice day and some good racing even though Johnson won again. Been a while since I have been to a race, forgot how loud it can be, my ears are still ringing. The stand where about 2/3 filled, kind of surprised me.
Anybody else go?
Mike
he is done
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/dale-earnhardt-jr-retire-cup-series-2017-131327664.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/dale-earnhardt-jr-retire-cup-series-2017-131327664.html)
I just jumped on the Jimmy train.
choo choo
You could see that coming. I was pretty excited i got to shake his hand and get an autograph yesterday before the race. Got to love rain outs I got 2 tickets and pit pass from some Yankees (didn't ask where they were from) that had to get home for $100.
Quote from: bristol on April 25, 2017, 12:52:27 PM
You could see that coming. I was pretty excited i got to shake his hand and get an autograph yesterday before the race. Got to love rain outs I got 2 tickets and pit pass from some Yankees (didn't ask where they were from) that had to get home for $100.
:cheers:
I'm surprised Dale Jr waited this long to retire. IMO he had no business on the track anymore after last year.
People look at his hit against the wall last year in Michigan and say, "those hits are a lot harder than they look on TV." I'm sure that's true. But it doesn't change the fact that it was almost nothing compared to how hard a NASCAR wreck can get. If that one was too much then he basically cannot take any hit at all. I'm not calling him a pussy but he is past his body's limits. There's no shame in it. It can happen to the best athletes.
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
Congrats on the experience. Hope you get to enjoy it.
I wonder how much of an effect it had on him that he could wind up going the way his daddy did.
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
That will be a great experience. I was telling my wife today that I don't really care whose in the cars just being there smelling the fuel when they fire the engines, the patriotism, the sounds it's just a cool environment to be in. I'll be going to martinsville and Kentucky later this year.
Ok, Darrell Waltrip has to be sitting in the booth kissing Jimmy Johnson pictures and wishing for a date. My gosh man, get off the "I love Jimmy" trip.
Quote from: nvrbdn on April 26, 2017, 06:04:26 PM
Ok, Darrell Waltrip has to be sitting in the booth kissing Jimmy Johnson pictures and wishing for a date. My gosh man, get off the "I love Jimmy" trip.
:iagree:
Quote from: bristol on April 25, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
That will be a great experience. I was telling my wife today that I don't really care whose in the cars just being there smelling the fuel when they fire the engines, the patriotism, the sounds it's just a cool environment to be in. I'll be going to martinsville and Kentucky later this year.
Quote from: JB400 on April 25, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
Congrats on the experience. Hope you get to enjoy it.
I wonder how much of an effect it had on him that he could wind up going the way his daddy did.
Thanks all.
Went to Charlotte last year during the summer with the wife & kids as part of a road trip. Got to watch some of the Bojangles series with the outlaw type cars. Actually won 2 tickets to come back last October for the Race for the Cure event on a Friday night.
Drove down 10 hours only the have the race rained out by Hurricane Matthew! was able to see a couple hours of practice so I did get to see some actual NASCARS on the track....hopefully this time will be different.
Quick question to the seasoned veterans.....hearing protection. Are full ear muffs necessary or can you get away with just the ear plugs?
I always wear ear plugs, but I use the muffs on the grand kids. :cheers:
Dale Jr is retiring at the end of 2017.
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 26, 2017, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: bristol on April 25, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
That will be a great experience. I was telling my wife today that I don't really care whose in the cars just being there smelling the fuel when they fire the engines, the patriotism, the sounds it's just a cool environment to be in. I'll be going to martinsville and Kentucky later this year.
Quote from: JB400 on April 25, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 25, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Im heading to Richmond International Raceway for this Sunday's race. This will be my first "official" NASCAR race!
Congrats on the experience. Hope you get to enjoy it.
I wonder how much of an effect it had on him that he could wind up going the way his daddy did.
Thanks all.
Went to Charlotte last year during the summer with the wife & kids as part of a road trip. Got to watch some of the Bojangles series with the outlaw type cars. Actually won 2 tickets to come back last October for the Race for the Cure event on a Friday night.
Drove down 10 hours only the have the race rained out by Hurricane Matthew! was able to see a couple hours of practice so I did get to see some actual NASCARS on the track....hopefully this time will be different.
Quick question to the seasoned veterans.....hearing protection. Are full ear muffs necessary or can you get away with just the ear plugs?
Monday was my first race with ear muffs. I'll never go without them now. Got them at Walmart a black set and pink set $10 each. We put them on after about 5 laps and took them off during cautions to scream at each other but that's just Bristol. :lol:
I didn't see this posted:
Former NASCAR and IndyCar driver John Andretti revealed this week that he is fighting Stage 4 colon cancer.
Andretti, 54, said he is undergoing chemo treatments and faces surgeries in June.
I wish him the best.........
Andretti, who raced 17 seasons and won two races in NASCAR's top series, also made five starts in the Indianapolis 500.
When you are intentionally a total jag off in the post race interview, this is what happens.
Funny! I laughed my ass off when I saw the "drop the mike" interview. Like everyone else, I don't like the guy but I'm glad he's around for the entertainment value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtK3PRuohc
Quote from: RallyeMike on June 02, 2017, 04:12:54 PM
Funny! I laughed my ass off when I saw the "drop the mike" interview. Like everyone else, I don't like the guy but I'm glad he's around for the entertainment value.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
And now he is whining about everyone ragging on him. Well... Duhhhhhh, like when your supposed to act like a professional and act like a 7 year old instead, what do you think is going to happen. What a moron. I have hated a lot of drivers over the years, but none as much a KB.
Truex is sure on a roll this year....I hope he can keep it up and take it to the end and win the Championship
Quote from: A383Wing on July 09, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Truex is sure on a roll this year....I hope he can keep it up and take it to the end and win the Championship
I agree.
And I have a feeling we will see Kenseth in a Hendrick car next year, either the 88 or the 5.
Quote from: TruckDriver on July 09, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 09, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Truex is sure on a roll this year....I hope he can keep it up and take it to the end and win the Championship
I agree.
And I have a feeling we will see Kenseth in a Hendrick car next year, either the 88 or the 5.
He could be a Hendrick driver for sure. But I think Matt may swap rides and wind up in the 77 if Gibbs brings Erik Jones back in house. Remember, the deal was they were loaning Jones for a year to Furniture Row. Regardless, Matt will bring a lot of good to anywhere he lands. At 45, his skills have not eroded at all.
2018 Silly season News - - -
Tuesday's announcement of Erik Jones as the replacement for Matt Kenseth in the No. 20 Toyota by Joe Gibbs Racing could be the first in a multitude of driver moves for the 2018 Cup season.
There are many drivers, sponsors and teams whose plans for next year have yet to be revealed, as was discussed on Tuesday's NASCAR America with Carolyn Manno, Steve Letarte and Slugger Labbe.
Here is a rundown of who could be headed where and with whom:
ANNOUNCED RIDES
—Erik Jones will be in the No. 20 Toyota (pushing out Matt Kenseth).
OPEN/POSSIBLY OPEN RIDES
—No. 88: Team owner Rick Hendrick hasn't tipped his hand on a direction for the ride, telling reporters at Daytona there was no timetable for naming Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s replacement.
–No. 5: This car virtually has no sponsorship announced for next season, and Kasey Kahne's status is uncertain. Hendrick Motorsports seems committed to remaining a four-car team next year.
—No. 77: Jones is returning to Joe Gibbs Racing after one season in Furniture Row Racing's new car. Team owner Barney Visser said after Kentucky that "we have nothing concrete. ... Our hope is to have two cars." 5-hour Energy has an option to return in 2018 and can't leave for another team. There is speculation Furniture Row Racing might move 5-hour Energy to the 78 with Martin Truex Jr., which would seem to leave the ride's future in doubt.
—No. 10: Sponsorship has yet to be announced for next season, and Danica Patrick's contract is in its last year with the team.
—No. 41: Monster is mulling whether to return as a team sponsor in addition to its series title sponsorship. Monster must inform NASCAR within the next few months if it's picking up the option on its series title sponsorship (which is a two-year deal with a two-year option). Co-owner Gene Haas has indicated Stewart-Haas Racing wants to stay at four cars. But if sponsorship isn't there, contraction could become an option for the team.
—No. 2: Still awaiting Brad Keselowski to be re-signed ... if he were to leave, Miller Lite is expected to stay and is said to like Ryan Blaney (whose social media persona and youth would seem a good fit for a beer company).
AVAILABLE DRIVERS
—Brad Keselowski: Still hasn't re-signed with Team Penske. There are conflicting reports on whether the deal is virtually done or negotiations are at an impasse. The sticking point is believed to be more support from Ford for his Brad Keselowski Racing truck team, similar to the way in which Toyota Racing Development helps subsidize Kyle Busch Motorsports' trucks. (Keselowski sparked an interesting discussion last week by saying that NASCAR needs more manufacturers.)
—Matt Kenseth: Is out at Joe Gibbs Racing but wants to remain in a championship-caliber ride. Hendrick's Nos. 88 or 5 seems the most likely landing spots, and he has a good friend in Dale Earnhardt Jr. to lobby on his behalf. Stewart-Haas Racing seems as if could be a possibility.
—William Byron: Hendrick Motorsports has gauged the 19-year-old's comfort level about a promotion to Cup. Rick Hendrick and Axalta (which has sponsored Byron in Xfinity races and likes his personality and potential) would like to move him up.
—Kurt Busch: The 2017 Daytona 500 winner said at Daytona he is waiting for Stewart-Haas Racing to pick up his contract option and was optimistic that it would because "I deliver for the team." Also mentioned there were many "moving parts" involving Monster and NASCAR.
—Kasey Kahne: Has a deal through next season, but the team controls the option to keep him, and it's widely thought it could be his last year at Hendrick.
—Ryan Blaney: Roger Penske said recently he wants to bring Blaney into the fold as early as next season, possibly in a third full-time car (or perhaps in the No. 2 if Keselowski were to leave).
—Danica Patrick: In her final year with Stewart-Haas Racing. She said last month she intends to drive next season, but the sponsorship uncertainty leaves her status murky for next year.
—Alex Bowman: If Hendrick goes young, he possibly could be in play for the No. 5 if the team puts Byron in the No. 88. Also in play for the No. 9 at JR Motorsports if Byron goes to Cup
—Paul Menard: Hasn't been announced as returning to Richard Childress Racing, and the Menards sponsorship could be on the move (it already sponsors Team Penske in the IndyCar Series).
—Aric Almirola: Hasn't been announced yet as returning to RPM next season. Has been tied closely to sponsor Smithfield, which also had been mulling a move in its contract year but which just had a key decision-maker leave.
—GMS Racing/Spencer Gallagher: The team is mulling a move next season to Cup from the Xfinity Series. At Kentucky, Gallagher told SiriusXM that racing in Cup "definitely is a subject that has been broached, and we've put a lot of thought into it. We've always known that is our long-term goal to be racing in Cup. We're looking at different ways we might do it and different times in which it would be best. It's still in the formative stages."
wow, There is a lot of uncertainty in the ranks. I for one am ready for the shake up and move to the younger drivers. There are so many "stale" drivers/teams out there that don't care if they ever compete for a top five spot/win. But just adding new blood isn't going to change the big picture as long as the owners are providing equipment that can't compete. Perfect example is Ryan Newman. 2 years in a row he is the most consistent driver in Nascar. RCR gives him junk to drive and he is lucky to stay on the lead lap. Several of the guys I like to watch have moved to "stale positions". Maybe some new blood and some new energy to the teams will charge things up a bit and get some excitement back into cup racing.
I would love to see ryan Newman at hendricks
Quote from: Chargen69 on July 13, 2017, 12:23:36 PM
I would love to see ryan Newman at hendricks
:iagree: :iagree:
That would be great, but since he just re-signed with RCR I do not see it happening.
Dodge is not returning to NASCAR.
http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/20048765/dodge-return-nascar
I would love to see Dodge back in and BK back behind the wheel!
The trucks are racing on dirt tonight at Eldora Speedway.....televised on Fox Business Network....channel 656 up here on Comcast
Hendrick Motorsports officials announced Thursday that Alex Bowman will replace Dale Earnhardt Jr. in the organization's No. 88 Chevrolet for the 2018 season, with sponsorship from Nationwide and Axalta.
NASCAR considering further restricting Cup drivers from competing in Xfinity Series races
https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2017/7/21/16013086/nascar-limit-cup-drivers-competing-xfinity-series-races?yptr=yahoo?src=rss (https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2017/7/21/16013086/nascar-limit-cup-drivers-competing-xfinity-series-races?yptr=yahoo?src=rss)
"The proposed limit could restrict drivers with more than five years of Cup experience from entering more than five Xfinity races per a season -- none of which can be during the seven-race playoffs or any of the four Dash 4 Cash races. Currently Cup veterans are permitted to make as many as 10 starts per season in non-playoff or Dash 4 Cash races.
"We have been in talks with teams about even limiting the number of races more or stay where we're at," Auton said. "Those conversations are ongoing. Stay tuned. I think some announcements will be coming out here pretty soon on what the garage area has asked us to look at."
NASCAR makes midseason rule change, abolishes Overtime Line immediately
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-midseason-rule-change-abolishes-overtime-line-immediately-213822138.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-midseason-rule-change-abolishes-overtime-line-immediately-213822138.html?src=rss)
NASCAR decided it couldn't wait until 2018 to get rid of the Overtime Line.
The sanctioning body said Wednesday afternoon that as of Sunday's race at Watkins Glen, the Overtime Line was gone.
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 02, 2017, 07:04:45 PM
NASCAR makes midseason rule change, abolishes Overtime Line immediately
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-midseason-rule-change-abolishes-overtime-line-immediately-213822138.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-midseason-rule-change-abolishes-overtime-line-immediately-213822138.html?src=rss)
NASCAR decided it couldn't wait until 2018 to get rid of the Overtime Line.
The sanctioning body said Wednesday afternoon that as of Sunday's race at Watkins Glen, the Overtime Line was gone.
Its not really gone its just back to the Start\finish line where it belongs... In an event that goes past the advertised distance, drivers must reach the Overtime Line (now consistently the start/finish line) under green-flag conditions following the restart. If the leader does that, the next flag will end the race. If the leader does not reach the Overtime Line under green, that will force another restart.
http://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/08/02/nascar-overtime-line-start-finish-line/
No real surprise here
Kasey Kahne out at Hendrick Motorsports after this season
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/a411d523-63dd-312d-8e65-8bbb76ab9cd8/kasey-kahne-out-at-hendrick.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/m/a411d523-63dd-312d-8e65-8bbb76ab9cd8/kasey-kahne-out-at-hendrick.html)
Hope Kayne gets a good ride for next year.
In other news, Chevrolet is racing the Camaro next year in the Monster Energy series:
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/08/11/chevrolet-camaro-to-join-monster-energy-nascar-cup-series-in-2018.html
No more sedan. Hope Ford will do the same thing, and make Toyota put out something cool in the future.
Quote from: JB400 on August 12, 2017, 09:58:04 PM
Hope Kayne gets a good ride for next year.
In other news, Chevrolet is racing the Camaro next year in the Monster Energy series:
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/08/11/chevrolet-camaro-to-join-monster-energy-nascar-cup-series-in-2018.html
No more sedan. Hope Ford will do the same thing, and make Toyota put out something cool in the future.
I forgot to post this, but yes I agree with you. But IF my memory serves me right, this was the plan to eventually have the Camaro and Mustang's in the cup series.
Personally, I'd think you'd want to have your performance flag ship front and center as much as possible. Nothing but Corvettes and Camaro's have run in the sports car series. Only the Aussies and Europeans would run sedans. :nana:
To bad Dodge is no longer running NASCAR.....would love to see the Challenger doing battle with them (again)........
I will be putting these bodies on in the near future. Little known fact. The green house on these cars, that is the portion of the car representing the windshield, roof back glass , side windows, the A,B and C pillars, essentially everything above the door ledge where you would rest your arm is the shape of the 2013 Dodge Charger. I worked on the submission car for the current GM car back then and Nascar did not want Dodge to leave the sport so their car was based primarily on their street car. In order to make all the OEM's aerodynamically match they had to use the same shape greenhouse and decklid. Only the nose ,hood ,tail piece and the side sheet metal reflect the body lines of the other manufacturers. The base line car was and still is the 2013 Dodge Charger. In fact before the Chevrolet stock car sheet metal was available I had to use a stock Dodge Charger roof skin to start the build. Weird Huh?
Quotewould love to see the Challenger doing battle with them (again)........
(challenger) Again?
I'll settle for Dodge in Nascar (again) though....
I read an article as well that states they are going to use bolt together body panels in the Xfinity series in a few races to minimize cost.
Quote from: JB400 on August 14, 2017, 09:39:51 PM
I read an article as well that states they are going to use bolt together body panels in the Xfinity series in a few races to minimize cost.
Minimize cost. That is hilarious. Every time they make a "Cost Cutting Measure" it costs more. The sides of the cars used to be made out of .023 mild sheet metal (steel) and were hand fabricated. Presently they are stamped pieces from venders used by the manufacturers that need to be hand fitted. The cost of materials for a side went from about $30.00 a sheet to $700 to $1000 per side with that cost cutting move. A complete set of templates in 2005 would cost about $3000. The present grid cost around $30,000.00 I don't know what the flange fit bodies cost because I work in the Cup series but they are made of kevlar and presently the nose and the tail of our cars are made of this. They cost roughly $1500 together. More like cost transfer from fabricators in the sport to high end series approved vendors. ;)
Quote from: Stevearino on August 15, 2017, 05:03:30 AM
Quote from: JB400 on August 14, 2017, 09:39:51 PM
I read an article as well that states they are going to use bolt together body panels in the Xfinity series in a few races to minimize cost.
Minimize cost. That is hilarious. Every time they make a "Cost Cutting Measure" it costs more. The sides of the cars used to be made out of .023 mild sheet metal (steel) and were hand fabricated. Presently they are stamped pieces from venders used by the manufacturers that need to be hand fitted. The cost of materials for a side went from about $30.00 a sheet to $700 to $1000 per side with that cost cutting move. A complete set of templates in 2005 would cost about $3000. The present grid cost around $30,000.00 I don't know what the flange fit bodies cost because I work in the Cup series but they are made of kevlar and presently the nose and the tail of our cars are made of this. They cost roughly $1500 together. More like cost transfer from fabricators in the sport to high end series approved vendors. ;)
Thanks Steve, for sharing !!
Still just a rumor: http://fcauthority.com/2017/08/it-turns-out-a-return-to-nascar-may-still-be-in-the-cards-for-dodge/
If people keep on talking, it might just happen.
Quote from: JB400 on August 16, 2017, 04:46:06 PM
Still just a rumor: http://fcauthority.com/2017/08/it-turns-out-a-return-to-nascar-may-still-be-in-the-cards-for-dodge/
If people keep on talking, it might just happen.
There are so many obstacles to them coming back, I just don't see it happening.
So even if FCA would spend the massive amount of money required, (while The Great Sergio tries to find a buyer for the company) who would the possible first tier teams be that have the infrastructure to handle a start-up operation for 2019 or 2020, build their own chassis and supply their own engines?
Like 1999, it seems to me it would take a new team built from the ground up.
Quote from: JB400 on August 16, 2017, 04:46:06 PM
Still just a rumor: http://fcauthority.com/2017/08/it-turns-out-a-return-to-nascar-may-still-be-in-the-cards-for-dodge/
If people keep on talking, it might just happen.
One of the biggest obstacles would be the present uncertainty of the ownership of the company. Rumor has it that the Chinese are looking to own it. The cultural priorities would definitely be different. I have seen companies just change leadership and go from racing to golf because of the new CEO's personal interest. I cannot imagine how the new owners of a Chinese Chrysler would prefer to spend their advertising dollars.
Quote from: Stevearino on August 15, 2017, 05:03:30 AM
Quote from: JB400 on August 14, 2017, 09:39:51 PM
I read an article as well that states they are going to use bolt together body panels in the Xfinity series in a few races to minimize cost.
Minimize cost. That is hilarious. Every time they make a "Cost Cutting Measure" it costs more. The sides of the cars used to be made out of .023 mild sheet metal (steel) and were hand fabricated. Presently they are stamped pieces from venders used by the manufacturers that need to be hand fitted. The cost of materials for a side went from about $30.00 a sheet to $700 to $1000 per side with that cost cutting move. A complete set of templates in 2005 would cost about $3000. The present grid cost around $30,000.00 I don't know what the flange fit bodies cost because I work in the Cup series but they are made of kevlar and presently the nose and the tail of our cars are made of this. They cost roughly $1500 together. More like cost transfer from fabricators in the sport to high end series approved vendors. ;)
So do you think the owners want to cut labor cost hoping the parts last longer that the labor to build new panels?
Or do you think na$car is getting a kickback in licensing fees and that's the reason for the change?
It's interesting to hear directly from an insider and I understand if there are some thing you cannot or shouldn't say.
I still love the sport but it's a changing...it's BIG business and with the new ownership charters I don't see many new players coming in or manufactures coming back if you can't buy one of the top 5 teams. Who wants to pay millions to run 25th every weekend? Try and sale that to the board of dictators...😎
Darrell Wallace Jr. to replace Almirola at RPM in 2018 :2thumbs:
Aric Almirola is set to replace Danica Patrick in the Stewart-Haas Racing No. 10 car next season, and new SHR sponsor Smithfield also has agreed to continue a relationship with Richard Petty Motorsports, sources said.
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 04, 2017, 11:49:41 AM
Aric Almirola is set to replace Danica Patrick in the Stewart-Haas Racing No. 10 car next season, and new SHR sponsor Smithfield also has agreed to continue a relationship with Richard Petty Motorsports, sources said.
As one media personality put it yesterday, "Danica, with a dick." :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Matt Kenseth will step away from Cup in 2018 :'(
The last cup driver I really like.
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 04, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
Matt Kenseth will step away from Cup in 2018 :'(
The last cup driver I really like.
:iagree:
Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 04, 2017, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Stevearino on August 15, 2017, 05:03:30 AM
Quote from: JB400 on August 14, 2017, 09:39:51 PM
I read an article as well that states they are going to use bolt together body panels in the Xfinity series in a few races to minimize cost.
Minimize cost. That is hilarious. Every time they make a "Cost Cutting Measure" it costs more. The sides of the cars used to be made out of .023 mild sheet metal (steel) and were hand fabricated. Presently they are stamped pieces from venders used by the manufacturers that need to be hand fitted. The cost of materials for a side went from about $30.00 a sheet to $700 to $1000 per side with that cost cutting move. A complete set of templates in 2005 would cost about $3000. The present grid cost around $30,000.00 I don't know what the flange fit bodies cost because I work in the Cup series but they are made of kevlar and presently the nose and the tail of our cars are made of this. They cost roughly $1500 together. More like cost transfer from fabricators in the sport to high end series approved vendors. ;)
So do you think the owners want to cut labor cost hoping the parts last longer that the labor to build new panels?
Or do you think na$car is getting a kickback in licensing fees and that's the reason for the change?
It's interesting to hear directly from an insider and I understand if there are some thing you cannot or shouldn't say.
I still love the sport but it's a changing...it's BIG business and with the new ownership charters I don't see many new players coming in or manufactures coming back if you can't buy one of the top 5 teams. Who wants to pay millions to run 25th every weekend? Try and sale that to the board of dictators...😎
The owners have been chompin at the bit to cut labor for years and they are finally getting their way but they are trading the cost of labor for the cost of everything else so while they are spending more they are spending on stuff and not people which they seem to prefer. There are a lot of people who have spent their entire life in the sport who are being cast aside as we speak. There has always been a situation of the well connected getting sweet vendor deals. I am just hoping to hang on for a few more years but it is getting like a game of "bop a mole". :lol:
Danica calling it quits:
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/11/17/danica-patrick-steps-away-full-time-driving/
I say Kyle Busch or Harvick for champion this year, although I'm rooting for BK
Which is fine, she is field filler anyway. She brought in great sponsorship money for SHR and now since that is gone shes not worth keeping around.
If Kenseth cant get a ride for next year, Danica sure as heck wont.
Jerr-Dan will be looking for work too then. :yesnod:
Truex won the race at Homestead, and also won the Cup...great for him and his team..they deserve it
Quote from: A383Wing on November 19, 2017, 09:53:15 PM
Truex won the race at Homestead, and also won the Cup...great for him and his team..they deserve it
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
:iagree:
I thought Kyle Busch was going to start crying when he was being interviewed just after the race for his second place finish......
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
:iagree:
I thought Kyle Busch was going to start crying when he was being interviewed just after the race for his second place finish......
:iagree: X2
A good ending for the season. Congrats to the Truex team - a lot of people rooting for them including me.
Typical Kyle Bush :'( pouting and blaming, contrasted heavily by the multiple following interviews by the true sportsmen who took the opportunity to thank their team, sponsors, family, and owners .....
Truex and his team are the kind of Champions that NASCAR desperately needs to make things interesting once again. Not a high dollar team with multiple cars that can throw money at their problems. They have overcome so many issues and hardships, on their way to the Championship...truly earning the Championship...they never gave up........
This was the first race in a long time that I actually got excited about.....loved the last 20 or so laps....
:2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 21, 2017, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
:iagree:
I thought Kyle Busch was going to start crying when he was being interviewed just after the race for his second place finish......
:iagree: X2
First champ west of the Mississippi and great story! Typical Kyle Busch blaming others, the 22 for blocking him in this case, for is lack of skill. He had 17 laps with no one between him and the 78 and still couldn't pass him. And no acknowledgement of Truex's driving ability or car performing well or congratulations. :rotz:
Truex driving ability??
where has that been all this time. no offense, but if it was driver he'd been here before. and i like him, dont get me wrong, I am glad he won that race, but the fact is toyota's apparent advantage helped him win so many times this year
didnt half of his wins come from this year?
Proof positive that Clint Boywer and Michael Waltrip Racing didn't need to cheat to make Truex a champion.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 19, 2017, 09:53:15 PM
Truex won the race at Homestead, and also won the Cup...great for him and his team..they deserve it
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
Agreed.
Great race :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Chargen69 on November 22, 2017, 05:30:46 PM
Truex driving ability??
where has that been all this time. no offense, but if it was driver he'd been here before. and i like him, dont get me wrong, I am glad he won that race, but the fact is toyota's apparent advantage helped him win so many times this year
I mean, who knows...is it the driver or the equipment? We can argue in circles about that for days. Was Richard Petty really "The King" or was it the fact that during his peak his team had more resources than the others?
Truex spent the first decade+ of his career with mediocre teams. He got to DEI when it was already in decline and then he went to MWR, which was, well MWR. The equipment he had was good for a win or two a season, and thats what he got.
Sure, Furniture Row is kind of a JGR/Toyota satellite, but what he did is still impressive. Sometimes everything falls right into place - the driver gets in a "zone", the crew runs like a well oiled machine, and the equipment is on point - and thats what happened.
JJ wins 8 in a year and everyone bashes him saying they are cheating
a likeable guy wins 8 in a year and everyone says its about time
::)
It's always been that way though. Richard Petty is my idol. Dale Sr. I really liked a lot. But J.J. and Chad K are big cheaters. They were in their short track days as well, and were known for it.
Nascar is a wonderful forum for car builders but it now has no connection with the street cars!
Even the 1969 Dodge Charger 500 in my garage has no connection to the track cars of the day, except the exterior sheetmetal.
So what does a Moparman do these days for Nascar action?
Support a Toyota, as I sure won't support any other make of car, its the opposition of OLD!
Motor sport in general has gotten so far removed from its street driven counterparts.
I'm just happy to have seen motorsport 'as it was', not this gazzillion dollar/pound farce...
$100,000 for a smallblock engine and you don't even own it, its on LEASE?
Lets go back to the beach-course with dealer supplied cars and some beer-swilling rednecks driving them PLEASE... :pity:
Maybe a twenty five State prohibition will get us back to reality... :smilielol:
One of my next years trip will be to Watkins Glen with the boys going to bring the RV never been so hoping it will be fun .
Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 22, 2017, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 21, 2017, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
:iagree:
I thought Kyle Busch was going to start crying when he was being interviewed just after the race for his second place finish......
:iagree: X2
First champ west of the Mississippi and great story! Typical Kyle Busch blaming others, the 22 for blocking him in this case, for is lack of skill. He had 17 laps with no one between him and the 78 and still couldn't pass him. And no acknowledgement of Truex's driving ability or car performing well or congratulations. :rotz:
Jimmy Johnson was born & lives in CA.
Quote from: odcics2 on December 04, 2017, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 22, 2017, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 21, 2017, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 20, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
This is a good win for the sport. Truex ran consistently well all season, like champs used to do back in the day. Its also good to see a small team beat the JGR/Hendricks/SHRs for a change.
:iagree:
I thought Kyle Busch was going to start crying when he was being interviewed just after the race for his second place finish......
:iagree: X2
First champ west of the Mississippi and great story! Typical Kyle Busch blaming others, the 22 for blocking him in this case, for is lack of skill. He had 17 laps with no one between him and the 78 and still couldn't pass him. And no acknowledgement of Truex's driving ability or car performing well or congratulations. :rotz:
Jimmy Johnson was born & lives in CA.
I think he's talking about the race team, which is based in Colorado (I think?)
Otherwise, there have been plenty of Cup champs from west of the Mississippi - Gordon, Harvick, the Labonte bros, the Busch bros, and Johnson
Richard Petty Motorsports, Richard Childress Racing to align
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-richard-petty-motorsports-richard-161113940.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-richard-petty-motorsports-richard-161113940.html?src=rss)
"Richard Petty Motorsports will switch from Ford to Chevrolet, be aligned with Richard Childress Racing and relocate to the RCR campus in Welcome, North Carolina"
I highly doubt that the change will do them any good.
Quote from: TruckDriver on December 07, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Richard Petty Motorsports, Richard Childress Racing to align
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-richard-petty-motorsports-richard-161113940.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-richard-petty-motorsports-richard-161113940.html?src=rss)
"Richard Petty Motorsports will switch from Ford to Chevrolet, be aligned with Richard Childress Racing and relocate to the RCR campus in Welcome, North Carolina"
Two wrongs don't make a right... :Twocents:
And Danica dumped Ricky!!
Quote from: JB400 on December 18, 2017, 07:07:37 PM
I highly doubt that the change will do them any good.
Theyve been aligned with some big names over the last 15 years or so, with no real results. So yeah, no.
Footage of Nascar races prewar have surfaced:
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2017/01/19/lost-film-showcases-raymond-parks-talent-ahead-of-hall-induction/
this would be cool to watch.
Very cool footage. There is a very good book called "Driving with the Devil" which chronicles the pre-NASCAR era and focuses a lot on Parks, Lloyd Seay and Roy Hall.
Might start seeing Kasey Kahne racing sprint cars again. This is a decent read. Sounds like he is happy to get out of Hendrick's car, and is happy to be with his new team
Just one of Kasey's quotes "When I signed up, I wasn't (restricted) at all. They said I could do whatever I wanted and enjoy it," Kahne said. "A year later, I was restricted from everything and wasn't able to do that anymore. Last year, they were pretty cool about it. But it always felt like you were making somebody mad."
http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2018/01/Kasey-Kahne-Ready-for-New-Beginning.aspx?src=rss (http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASCAR-Sprint-Cup/News/Articles/2018/01/Kasey-Kahne-Ready-for-New-Beginning.aspx?src=rss)
Not NASCAR (technically) but it is stock car racing (ARCA). A friend/acquaintance, Jesse Iwuji, will be making his debut at Daytona in the ARCA 200 next month. He's an active duty US Navy officer who's been slowly but surely working his way up the ranks of racing, starting with the drag racing his daily driver SRT Challenger and Corvette, then stock cars at local NASCAR events, up to the K&N West series. Met him through our local Challenger club about 8 years ago when he was stationed in San Diego and have been keeping up with his adventures on social media and when I run into him at car events. I'm pretty excited...I think he's going places.
http://www.speedwaymedia.com/?p=131788
Cool! I love ARCA racing. I wish they would air all the races.
The guys here are starting a nascar fantasy league, but you don't have to pick anything. 5 bucks a week. 10 guys play. each week a number from 0-9 is drawn for each guy. if you have 0, any car with 0 for the last number is your car. if a car with 0 wins, you win the money. Makes it an easy way to play and root for different drivers every race. :2thumbs:
I may actually enjoy the race a bit more this year with this new way of rooting. :yesnod:
Teams will pit cars with five people going over the wall instead of six and using standardized pit guns instead of their own creations.
https://sports.yahoo.com/pit-road-rules-present-challenges-224443951.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/pit-road-rules-present-challenges-224443951.html?src=rss)
I also read in a different article, that they are going to be using a laser system now scan the cars as they go through inspection.
Now, get rid of splitters and side skirts.
Skirts belong on women, not stock cars!
I say the big difference in the pit stop will be what the jack man does.
As far as the inspection goes, they done away with lasers and the claw. Now, the car is scanned by a bunch of cameras, put into a cad profile, then compared with a master car. Takes 3 minutes to do a car.
The Bumper Car 500 let Danica go out doing what she did best..... CRASH! :2thumbs:
:slap:
The 3 lived up to it's reputation yesterday. :P
I agree. typical action by the 3 car. I felt he just plain ran over him. Was it just another blocker getting pushed out of the way, or bully not caring what he does?
A win is a win, no matter how you get it. As far as I'm concerned, Dillion just dumped him, in the typical Earnhardt no. 3 fashion.
Quote from: JB400 on February 19, 2018, 09:24:55 PM
A win is a win, no matter how you get it. As far as I'm concerned, Dillion just dumped him, in the typical Earnhardt no. 3 fashion.
It sucked. But if Dillon had lifted, the train behind him would have run him over. This is just a product of pack racing.
Almirola laughed at the reporter when asked if Dillon had maliciously dumped him. He said they were both trying to win the Daytona 500.
positions reversed the exact same thing happens, the numbers dont mean anything. any driver with that chance would "dump" their daddy for the win
oh yeah, racing still doesnt mean anything either.
not when you have a champion who almost didnt race half the season the other year
and I cant stand austin, but if he starts dumping people on mile and 1/2 tracks I might start watching nascar again... didnt even watch yesterday
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Quote from: Chargen69 on February 20, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
not when you have a champion who almost didnt race half the season the other year
he won under the same rules as everyone else. If I recall correctly, both Lee and Richard Petty won a couple of championships when there were 60 races in the season and you could handpick the ones you wanted to race at, since no one had the means to race the full schedule.
i'm saying the rules SUCK and I'm not wasting life watching it anymore.
never said kyle did anything wrong, I just think its stupid that races dont matter anymore
and from aric himself, he said austin wasnt aggressive:
Aric Almirola – Finished 11th: "It was the last lap and we're all trying to win the Daytona 500. It's the biggest race of the year and it's a career-changing race, so we were just racing really aggressively. I put every move I knew to try and stay in the lead and, unfortunately, I just wasn't able to hold on. He got to my back bumper and was pushing and just hooked me. My heart is broken, but the beauty is we'll go to Atlanta and we've got an incredible race team here at Stewart-Haas Racing and we'll have another shot next week. ... (Dillon wasn't) driving too aggressively, he's trying to win the Daytona 500 just like I was. I saw him come with the momentum and I pulled up to block and did exactly what I needed to do to try to win the Daytona 500. I wasn't gonna just let him have it. I wasn't gonna just stay on the bottom and let him rail the outside, so I blocked and he got to my bumper and pushed and I thought I was still gonna be OK and somehow I got hooked. ... I'm just devastated."
Stewart Haas finding a way to cheat? flexible roof? https://racingnews.co/2018/03/05/kevin-harvicks-rear-window-at-las-vegas-motor-speedway/
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ex-nascar-truck-series-driver-arrested-allegedly-trying-arrange-sex-minor-155634782.html
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2018, 09:23:48 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ex-nascar-truck-series-driver-arrested-allegedly-trying-arrange-sex-minor-155634782.html
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
That was a WOW news article when it broke over the weekend. Rick Crawford is a journeyman driver. Well respected. And apparently a pedophile. He will be likely be going away for a while.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 06, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2018, 09:23:48 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ex-nascar-truck-series-driver-arrested-allegedly-trying-arrange-sex-minor-155634782.html
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Rick Crawford is a journeyman driver. Well respected.
Not any more.... :rotz:
Danica has found her a ride for the Indy 500. It'll be interesting on how she transitions back to the indy cars.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/03/danica-patrick-to-pilot-the-no-13-ecr-chevrolet-at-the-2018-indy-500/
Kenseth returns to Cup for partial schedule. Shares the 6 with Bayne
Nascar buys out the ARCA series :rotz:
http://autoweek.com/article/nascar/breaking-nascar-acquires-arca-racing-series (http://autoweek.com/article/nascar/breaking-nascar-acquires-arca-racing-series)
In a move that has widespread industry implications, NASCAR announced on Friday morning at Talladega Superspeedway that it has acquired the ARCA Racing Series effective immediately.
With that said, ARCA will continue operating independently until after the 2019 season, at which point NASCAR plans to better align its interests beyond just the three national tours -- currently known as Monster Energy Cup, Xfinity and Camping World Trucks.
What wasn't made clear on Friday was to what extent NASCAR had purchased the assets of ARCA. In addition to the national series, ARCA also owns Toledo Speedway (Ohio) and Flat Rock Speedway (Mich.) and also sanctions two Super Late Model tours based out of Indiana (CRA) and Wisconsin (Midwest Tour), respectively.
NASCAR driver James Hylton dies in highway accident
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-driver-james-hylton-dies-highway-accident-180757904.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-driver-james-hylton-dies-highway-accident-180757904.html?src=rss)
James Hylton, 83, who raced for more than half a century at NASCAR's Cup level, died Saturday in a traffic accident after leaving Talladega Superspeedway. Hylton's son James "Tweety" Hylton Jr. also died in the wreck.
How long till we can kiss ARCA goodbye? I don't see Nascar keeping a series in the US that basically mirrors the Xfinity
Quote from: JB400 on April 28, 2018, 04:58:20 PM
How long till we can kiss ARCA goodbye? I don't see Nascar keeping a series in the US that basically mirrors the Xfinity
Exactly.
Quote from: TruckDriver on May 02, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: JB400 on April 28, 2018, 04:58:20 PM
How long till we can kiss ARCA goodbye? I don't see Nascar keeping a series in the US that basically mirrors the Xfinity
Exactly.
It's always been a 4th tier series (behind the trucks), so itll probably be rebranded as a step between the K&N series and XFinity. You're not wrong that it could go away entirely tho...
:o :o :o :o :o
France family exploring sale of NASCAR
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-france-family-exploring-sale-nascar-194740381.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-france-family-exploring-sale-nascar-194740381.html?src=rss)
According to reports from Reuters and CNBC, NASCAR executives are "working with investment bank Goldman Sachs Group Inc to identify a potential deal for the company." Talks are in the exploratory stage and a NASCAR spokeswoman did not deny the Reuters report, saying the sport had nothing to add at this time. Why a spokesperson's non-denial is significant In many instances like this, a spokesperson will deny a report of this nature even if there is truth behind it. In this report, NASCAR spokesperson Steph Harris said, "We don't have anything to add," to an inquiry from Reuters.
When a spokesperson typically makes a statement like that it is a tacit confirmation that the reporting is correct. If that is true in this case, it's a massive, massive scoop that NASCAR's only ownership family is considering a way out — even partially — of the ownership side of the biggest auto racing series in North America.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/exclusive-majority-owners-explore-sale-of-nascar/ar-AAwU66a?ocid=spartandhp
Rats leaving a sinking ship...
Lowes is parting ways with Johnson after this year
Quote from: JB400 on May 25, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
Lowes is parting ways with Johnson after this year
J.J. is a "has been" now like Kasey Kahne. Plus Napscar is dying off too.
Now this is disturbing ::)
https://sports.yahoo.com/danica-patrick-leaves-racing-claim-best-female-driver-american-history-132935924.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/danica-patrick-leaves-racing-claim-best-female-driver-american-history-132935924.html?src=rss)
Danica Patrick leaves racing with a claim to be the best female driver in American history :smilielol: :eek2: :smilielol: :lol:
Well, she ended her career with a bang, or a crash, however you want to out it
I wasn't surprised, lol.
Got to give her credit though. Other top drivers lost their cars as well
This is sad.... :'(
John Andretti's colon cancer has returned, spread
https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2018/05/29/john-andrettis-colon-cancer-has-returned-spread/?src=rss (https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2018/05/29/john-andrettis-colon-cancer-has-returned-spread/?src=rss)
Andretti, 55, had been in remission since November when he finished 12 chemotherapy treatments. Andretti's initial surgery after his diagnosis removed 12-14 inches of his colon and scans showed the cancer had spread to his liver and possibly his spleen.
thats not good at all
Liver cancer is terminal.... :'(
Quote from: odcics2 on June 26, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Liver cancer is terminal.... :'(
Can't they just replace the liver in a transplant to cure it?
Quote from: TruckDriver on June 30, 2018, 08:04:57 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 26, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Liver cancer is terminal.... :'(
Can't they just replace the liver in a transplant to cure it?
Because the returning cancer has spread through the body, it's whack a mole. I would presume not every type of liver cancer is suitable for transplant and that the wait time for a transplant can be a problem.
Toyota's new choice for Xfinity. The Toyota Supra
Maybe they can put a wing o it and it can be a Suprabird.
It doesn't look like any kind of Supra I have ever seen.
I heard this about 2 weeks ago. And yeah...... Looks NOTHING like the factory version :lol:
Kasey Kahne announces retirement from racing in NASCAR full-time
https://sports.yahoo.com/kasey-kahne-announces-retirement-racing-nascar-full-time-125334327.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/kasey-kahne-announces-retirement-racing-nascar-full-time-125334327.html?src=rss)
"Kasey Kahne has become the latest recognizable NASCAR driver to call it quits on his driving career.
Kahne said Thursday that the 2018 season would be his last driving full-time in NASCAR. He's been driving for Leavine Family Racing this season after parting ways with Hendrick Motorsports at the end of the 2017 season."
Elliott Sadler retiring to spend more time with his family
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/08/15/nascars-elliott-sadler-retiring-to-spend-more-time-with-his-family.html (http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/08/15/nascars-elliott-sadler-retiring-to-spend-more-time-with-his-family.html)
""It's time for me, as a Dad, to help my kids pursue their dreams. Wyatt is 8 and Austyn is 6 and both of them are very active at school and in extracurricular activities," Sadler wrote on social media."
I didn't think Kayne was going to get to stick around for very long.
Here's a shocker:
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2018/09/04/furniture-row-racing-cease-operations-2018-season/
Quote from: JB400 on September 05, 2018, 12:24:29 AM
Here's a shocker:
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2018/09/04/furniture-row-racing-cease-operations-2018-season/
14 race sponsorship hole. Gibbs raised the price of providing the cars and technical assistance. Team owner had a heart attack. Sounds like his family is not crazy about racing. They have won a championship. He has been to the top of the mountain. What else is there to gain by spending his own money?
Gibbs has already scooped up Truex and Cole Pearn. Suarez will be driving something else in 2019.
Vote for Most Popular Driver
https://www.nascar.com/mostpopulardriver
Bayne is out of the 6. https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2018/09/12/jack-roush-trevor-bayne-will-not-return-to-team-in-2019/
Ryan Newman to drive No. 6 for Roush Fenway Racing in 2019
https://sports.yahoo.com/reports-ryan-newman-drive-no-6-roush-fenway-racing-2019-213352955.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/reports-ryan-newman-drive-no-6-roush-fenway-racing-2019-213352955.html?src=rss)
Hope he can help turn Roush Fenway around. The young blood isn't getting it done
ok everybody, buy the new T shirts, hats and die cast!! :lol:
50 career wins now for Kyle Busch
Be thankful he doesn't have 7 or more championships:
And 7 Daytona 500 wins.
:Twocents:
Quote from: JB400 on September 21, 2018, 10:08:29 PM
Hope he can help turn Roush Fenway around. The young blood isn't getting it done
The engineering on the Roush cars is fundamentally screwed up. They talk about making progress. But still, if you put Harvick or Kyle Busch in that seat, I don't think they could win.
Maybe with the new Mustang body, they'll get back to their winning ways. Newman should be an accent. Bayne never really showed his potential like he did when he was in the Wood Bros. 21. I'm kind of surprised Stenhouse still has a ride. He's scored a couple wins, but that was due to a gutsy crewchief
Quote from: JB400 on September 24, 2018, 01:15:16 AM
Maybe with the new Mustang body, they'll get back to their winning ways. Newman should be an accent. Bayne never really showed his potential like he did when he was in the Wood Bros. 21. I'm kind of surprised Stenhouse still has a ride. He's scored a couple wins, but that was due to a gutsy crewchief
Perhaps the biggest incentive for them to hire Newman is if he has several races with Caterpillar in his pocket. The first criteria for these teams has now become: "Do you have any money to bring with you?"
Quote from: Aero426 on July 07, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Maybe they can put a wing o it and it can be a Suprabird.
It doesn't look like any kind of Supra I have ever seen.
Lol!
But how long since the last car in Nascar looked like its showroom equivalent? :)
What was JJ thinking - Lol.
The way almost everyone slid through that restart....does make me think there may have been track issue.
Happy for Penske.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 01, 2018, 10:00:22 AM
What was JJ thinking - Lol.
The way almost everyone slid through that restart....does make me think there may have been track issue.
Happy for Penske.
That was a very uncharacteristic move for JJ.
The late wreck with Brad K and others had to be a track issue. Should have been blown off. Most of the cars looked like they had been to Talladega at the end of the race.
The guy hadn't won all year. Can't blame him for going for it. Killed my roster though when he took out Truex.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 01, 2018, 10:30:25 AM
That was a very uncharacteristic move for JJ.
The late wreck with Brad K and others had to be a track issue. Should have been blown off. Most of the cars looked like they had been to Talladega at the end of the race.
I don't know. K.B. said it was just old tires. He would of been the first one to bring up there was something on the track if it was that.
But I bet next year, they will either change the track layout or have added that sticky stuff in the corners, which I hate them using it because it takes the driving out of the driver. I thought the track was cool, but the race mostly was still boring to me. They hyped it up more then the race really ended up being. Hate me if you want, but I like beating and banging and door to door racing. It adds excitement. Most people do. That is why Monster trucks and demo derbys are so popular. Yes the cars cost a lot, and no one wishes to see a driver hurt. But seeing beat up race cars after a race means the race was good compared to seeing races where all the car after the race still look new. :Twocents:
Quote from: JB400 on October 01, 2018, 04:19:06 PM
The guy hadn't won all year. Can't blame him for going for it. Killed my roster though when he took out Truex.
So is it just a down year for JJ or is he in that awkward stage of his career in which an otherwise legendary driver spends the last few years riding around the back or finishing 15th at best?
I remember when I first started following the sport (late 90's), I had no idea that Darrell Waltrip had once been a badass, because by then he was always crashing out or finishing 6 laps down in his Kmart car. Earnhardt Sr. would still win a race here and there but never really contend for the Championship. In the mid 2000's it was the Terry Labontes and Rusty Wallaces who were previously racing on borrowed time....
NASCAR makes major rules changes on cars for 2019 season
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-major-rules-changes-cars-2019-season-173034495.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-makes-major-rules-changes-cars-2019-season-173034495.html?src=rss)
QuoteSo is it just a down year for JJ or is he in that awkward stage of his career in which an otherwise legendary driver spends the last few years riding around the back or finishing 15th at best?
I remember when I first started following the sport (late 90's), I had no idea that Darrell Waltrip had once been a badass, because by then he was always crashing out or finishing 6 laps down in his Kmart car. Earnhardt Sr. would still win a race here and there but never really contend for the Championship. In the mid 2000's it was the Terry Labontes and Rusty Wallaces who were previously racing on borrowed time....
It's pretty clear that JJ is done winning championships. He's been on a gradual decline for years.
But JJ in his prime . . that's setting the bar pretty high. At 42yo he can probably still embarrass a lot of 22yo guys.
If anyone raced for too long it was Richard Petty.
I can't blame him for doing what he loved as long as he could. But man, think of his image if he had retired in about 1980.
That's what we got with Dale Earnhardt Sr. He timed his last ambulance ride pretty well. IMO that did a lot to elevate his legendary status in the sport.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 02, 2018, 02:50:30 PM
QuoteSo is it just a down year for JJ or is he in that awkward stage of his career in which an otherwise legendary driver spends the last few years riding around the back or finishing 15th at best?
I remember when I first started following the sport (late 90's), I had no idea that Darrell Waltrip had once been a badass, because by then he was always crashing out or finishing 6 laps down in his Kmart car. Earnhardt Sr. would still win a race here and there but never really contend for the Championship. In the mid 2000's it was the Terry Labontes and Rusty Wallaces who were previously racing on borrowed time....
JJ's champion days are over. He hasn't been winning for a while and he is like 42 years old.
But JJ in his prime . . that's setting the bar pretty high. JJ in his 40's can probably still embarrass a lot of 22yo guys.
If anyone raced for too long it was Richard Petty.
I can't blame him for doing what he loved as long as he could. But man, think of his image if he had retired in about 1980.
That's what we got with Dale Earnhardt Sr. He timed his last ambulance ride pretty well. IMO that did a lot to elevate his legendary status in the sport.
Gordon also timed his retirement fairly well. Another guy who was good for 1-2 wins a season but probably wasn't going to get another Cup.
Quote from: Ponch ® on October 02, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: JB400 on October 01, 2018, 04:19:06 PM
The guy hadn't won all year. Can't blame him for going for it. Killed my roster though when he took out Truex.
So is it just a down year for JJ or is he in that awkward stage of his career in which an otherwise legendary driver spends the last few years riding around the back or finishing 15th at best?
I remember when I first started following the sport (late 90's), I had no idea that Darrell Waltrip had once been a badass, because by then he was always crashing out or finishing 6 laps down in his Kmart car. Earnhardt Sr. would still win a race here and there but never really contend for the Championship. In the mid 2000's it was the Terry Labontes and Rusty Wallaces who were previously racing on borrowed time....
I was lucky enough to see Allison, Allison, Baker, Glotzbach, Isaac, Hamilton, Petty, Pearson, Yarbrough and Yarborough run together at the same time in aerocars.
Well, this should make a few of you guys happy :yesnod:
NASCAR: Restrictor plates won't be used at Talladega in 2019
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/article_03b401ff-897e-56e9-b7d8-bc83483baebd.html?src=rss (https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/article_03b401ff-897e-56e9-b7d8-bc83483baebd.html?src=rss)
LOL, they will be using vintage Cox .049 engines. :lol:
Before I leave this Earth, just once I would like to see Nascar do a race with the following "rules"
Teams could use any past or present body style that was offered
Teams could use any V8 engine that was available for the body style that they chose
I got into Nascar a bit too late to see the Aero cars run on the tracks......or I was born too late, or both
I guess I'll just keep watching the Aero cars on Youtube and other sites
But it would be interesting to see what makes & models the teams would run
Bryan
Vintage Nascar series would be great to watch. Stick these newer drivers in them and enjoy the show.
Quote from: JB400 on October 03, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
Vintage Nascar series would be great to watch. Stick these newer drivers in them and enjoy the show.
yup no Air Conditioned Suits or Power Steering , i can here them all crying now
Quote from: odcics2 on October 03, 2018, 01:27:54 PM
LOL, they will be using vintage Cox .049 engines. :lol:
:smilielol: :lol:
Quote from: moparstuart on October 03, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: JB400 on October 03, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
Vintage Nascar series would be great to watch. Stick these newer drivers in them and enjoy the show.
yup no Air Conditioned Suits or Power Steering , i can here them all crying now
:yesnod:
Quote from: A383Wing on October 03, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
Before I leave this Earth, just once I would like to see Nascar do a race with the following "rules"
Teams could use any past or present body style that was offered
Teams could use any V8 engine that was available for the body style that they chose
I got into Nascar a bit too late to see the Aero cars run on the tracks......or I was born too late, or both
I guess I'll just keep watching the Aero cars on Youtube and other sites
But it would be interesting to see what makes & models the teams would run
Bryan
I can see a bunch of current and/or recently retired drivers (the Busch Bros, Tony Stewart, Harvick) being up for this, but the suits probably wouldn't let them do it because of "insurance reasons".
Quote from: moparstuart on October 03, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: JB400 on October 03, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
Vintage Nascar series would be great to watch. Stick these newer drivers in them and enjoy the show.
yup no Air Conditioned Suits or Power Steering , i can here them all crying now
x3.
:cheers:
So, Nascar thinks making changes to the car will encourage other manufacturers to join back in.
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2018/10/02/rules-package-help-shape-seventh-generation-stock-car-entice-new-oems/
I don't see it happening, although the Charger would look good back on thr track.
Why do I get the feeling that NASCAR is more interested in a brand like Honda than in Chrysler?
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 04, 2018, 02:02:31 AM
Why do I get the feeling that NASCAR is more interested in a brand like Honda than in Chrysler?
A shame that Dodge is not in there. They would be NASCAR's most relevant brand as they actually have a RWD V8 powered car. Am sure that NASCAR would welcome ANY nameplate that wanted to compete these days. They are becoming more and more off on their own island in terms of relevance to justifying a motorsports program. NASCAR's current fuel saving technology is to shut the car off and coast during caution laps. :yesnod:
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 04, 2018, 02:02:31 AM
Why do I get the feeling that NASCAR is more interested in a brand like Honda than in Chrysler?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/3afe3ed8edf488c1a69b68984c9070bb/tumblr_o2x77aHZ081uope3no1_500.gif)
If NASCAR thinks their diehard fans are gonna pay money to watch a Toyota/Honda rivalry . . .
Quote from: Aero426 on October 04, 2018, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 04, 2018, 02:02:31 AM
Why do I get the feeling that NASCAR is more interested in a brand like Honda than in Chrysler?
A shame that Dodge is not in there. They would be NASCAR's most relevant brand as they actually have a RWD V8 powered car. Am sure that NASCAR would welcome ANY nameplate that wanted to compete these days. They are becoming more and more off on their own island in terms of relevance to justifying a motorsports program. NASCAR's current fuel saving technology is to shut the car off and coast during caution laps. :yesnod:
Chrysler is selling vehicles without Nascar. Not a lot of marketing reasons to get back in... (other than us old guys on forums that miss the old days)
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2018/10/02/us-auto-sales-september-2018/1495761002/
Chrysler even outsold Ford last month. All major players are down in sales, except Chrysler.
Quote from: odcics2 on October 04, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
Chrysler is selling vehicles without Nascar. Not a lot of marketing reasons to get back in... (other than us old guys on forums that miss the old days)
Ford and Chevy could certainly do the same.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 05, 2018, 09:54:21 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on October 04, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
Chrysler is selling vehicles without Nascar. Not a lot of marketing reasons to get back in... (other than us old guys on forums that miss the old days)
Ford and Chevy could certainly do the same.
Maybe if the cars actually looked more like what's sitting in the showroom, they could use NASCAR as a marketing tool.
QuoteMaybe if the cars actually looked more like what's sitting in the showroom, they could use NASCAR as a marketing tool.
I would love to see the car bodies looking visibly closer to stock, put a limit on the total area that can be covered with sponsor logos, and they have to run one of the OEM paint colors for the base. Make it look more like production cars pulled off the street and covered in decals.
Chad Knaus won't crew chief for Jimmie Johnson after 2018 :2thumbs: :lol:
https://sports.yahoo.com/chad-knaus-wont-crew-chief-jimmie-johnson-2018-213119881.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/chad-knaus-wont-crew-chief-jimmie-johnson-2018-213119881.html?src=rss)
"Jimmie Johnson won't have Chad Knaus has his crew chief for 2019 and beyond. Hendrick Motorsports announced Wednesday that Knaus would become William Byron's crew chief and Johnson's crew chief in 2019 would be Kevin Meendering, who currently works for JR Motorsports in the Xfinity Series.
"It's no secret that Chad and Jimmie have experienced their ups and downs over the years," Rick Hendrick said in a statement. "They're fierce competitors, great friends and have immense respect for one another. They also fight like brothers. All three of us agree it's finally time for new challenges and that a change will benefit them and the organization.""
And if Johnson doesn't perform like he should, he'll end up retiring, or move to Xfinity. I don't think he has a lifetime contract like Gordon
Mr. H dont like that fighting like brothers, just ask Jr and tony jr
they've always fought, and been able to get in a room and work it out, sounds to me like somebody may have crossed the line of respect somewhere
Quote from: JB400 on October 10, 2018, 09:57:56 PM
And if Johnson doesn't perform like he should, he'll end up retiring, or move to Xfinity. I don't think he has a lifetime contract like Gordon
JJ is signed through the 2020 season. He says he is still hungry. I think that when he stops, Hendrick will offer him something within the organization. Kind of like the mentoring role that Ganassi offered Jamie McMurray for this coming year. Rick Mears has done this for RP for years.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 09, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
QuoteMaybe if the cars actually looked more like what's sitting in the showroom, they could use NASCAR as a marketing tool.
I would love to .... put a limit on the total area that can be covered with sponsor logos.....
lol you'll see them running 4 door, 4 cyl front wheel Camrys before they give up any surfaces that can be sold...
Quotelol you'll see them running 4 door, 4 cyl front wheel Camrys before they give up any surfaces that can be sold...
The problem is not the ads. It's the inconsistent (and sometimes incoherent) visual look of the paintjobs. I don't mind my favorite driver having an orange & white Home Depot car or whatever. But it's a problem when the ads are so complex that I can't even tell what the base color is supposed to be, and I don't care because it's liable to be something totally different next week anyway.
Imagine what it would do to Football or Baseball or Hockey if they had no more team colors and just let the sponsors-of-the-week determine the uniforms. This is basically how NASCAR is operating now. It's another one of these "little things" that doesn't create any obvious measurable problem but it hurts the sport overall. The backbone of this sport is fans having specific drivers they love and hate. Constantly changing appearances is hobbling that process.
6yo kids don't remember "Today Junior is sponsored by XYZ instead of ZYX so his 14-color paint scheme has changed for the 3rd time in the last 5 races." They remember "Junior drives the red #8 car."
The problem is the fact that they've gotten so big that they have to have sponsorship, and multiple ones at that. No sponsorship, and after a couple races, you're done. Gone are the days where one primary sponsor is enough. Gordon run primarily with DuPont/ Axalta. Dale Sr. run GM Goodwrench. Rusty run Miller. Right now, you hardly see who the primary sponsor is anymore.
Quote from: JB400 on October 12, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
The problem is the fact that they've gotten so big that they have to have sponsorship, and multiple ones at that. No sponsorship, and after a couple races, you're done. Gone are the days where one primary sponsor is enough. Gordon run primarily with DuPont/ Axalta. Dale Sr. run GM Goodwrench. Rusty run Miller. Right now, you hardly see who the primary sponsor is anymore.
Right. The costs are out of control where it takes multiple primary sponsors to get through the season. (JGR has over 400 employees!) The days of a single sponsor are pretty much over.
Agreed. The enormous costs seem like the biggest problem of all. It's killing the sport.
The rulebook describes a fairly cheap car. The teams drive up the costs in spite of that as they pursue every possible advantage. IMO the most effective cost-cutting method (in the big picture) may be taking more of the parts out of the teams' hands. As in, NASCAR hands out more parts on the day of the race and gets them back when the race is over. If the teams can do less to build & test the cars, then they also need fewer employees to transport & store & test & handle everything. The savings multiplies.
The teams would complain about being locked out of their cars . . . The fans would complain on their behalf . . . but the sport would survive better.
You know the optical scanner thing that NASCAR implemented in tech? The top teams have now all bought this same scanner system so they can play with the cars at the shop. Ridiculous!
A lot of these rule changes to make things "fair" have unintended consequences.
QuoteYou know the optical scanner thing that NASCAR implemented in tech? The top teams have now all bought this same scanner system so they can play with the cars at the shop. Ridiculous!
A lot of these rule changes to make things "fair" have unintended consequences.
That's my point.
You can regulate a body, but you cannot stop the teams from spending a zillion hours getting on the ragged edges of all the spec limits. You can make them use a cheap brand of wheel rim, but you cannot stop them from buying 100 rims and picking out the 20 most perfectly round ones in the group. Etc.
Every part of the car that the team has control over is another place where they will escalate the costs trying to get a competitive advantage.
Regulate too much, and you end up with the IROC series. A money cap would be a better option. Put a limit on the number of sponsors a team can have
QuoteRegulate too much, and you end up with the IROC series.
Yeah I know, but I see no other way of holding costs down and keeping the racing competitive. NASCAR has been steadily moving in the direction of IROC as the teams squeeze out every ounce of speed year after year.
The problem is, you cannot let car-building be a big factor in the sport without having it turn into a money-spending contest. It's inherently a compromise. The more the car-building matters, the more money matters. The more money matters, the less the driver does.
Fans get awestruck about something like Richard Petty's amazing 1967 season with all those wins, 11 in a row . . . and 2 minutes later the same people are complaining that NASCAR got pretty boring when Jimmie Johnson was winning all the time. That's not any different.
QuoteA money cap would be a better option. Put a limit on the number of sponsors a team can have
It could help. But they would need to watch for unofficial & indirect support if they started putting "salary caps" on sponsorships.
Well, with Almirola winning today, and doing pretty good this year, does that give indication of the actual performance of the team that Danica had, or is Almirola doing a better job of relaying what he actually needs from his team to get the performance that he needs to win?
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Well, with Almirola winning today, and doing pretty good this year, does that give indication of the actual performance of the team that Danica had, or is Almirola doing a better job of relaying what he actually needs from his team to get the performance that he needs to win?
SHR moved numerous crew people from the old 10 car around for this season, including a new crew chief. Is the answer that the 10 car is performing better as a whole? The answer is yes. Is Almirola a better driver than Sparkle Pony? I would say yes.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 14, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Well, with Almirola winning today, and doing pretty good this year, does that give indication of the actual performance of the team that Danica had, or is Almirola doing a better job of relaying what he actually needs from his team to get the performance that he needs to win?
SHR moved numerous crew people from the old 10 car around for this season, including a new crew chief. Is the answer that the 10 car is performing better as a whole? The answer is yes. Is Almirola a better driver than Sparkle Pony? I would say yes.
:iagree:
The King said it best about Sparkle Pony a while back. His quote was: "She can drive. But she can't race."
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Well, with Almirola winning today, and doing pretty good this year, does that give indication of the actual performance of the team that Danica had, or is Almirola doing a better job of relaying what he actually needs from his team to get the performance that he needs to win?
he is better than her, BUT he got lucky. no way was he driving around kurt or kevin for that win
Kasey Kahne's NASCAR career appears to be finished. *IS finished.....
The driver announced Tuesday on Twitter that he has not been medically cleared to resume racing in the Monster Energy Cup Series, bringing a premature end to his final season on the circuit.
Kahne, 38, announced in August that he would step away from full-time racing after the 2018 season, with health issues a prominent factor in his decision. He said at the time he suffered from heat exhaustion at several races last year, and the situation came to a head at Darlington this September. He admitted following that race he was having a hard time keeping his eyes open during the final 100 laps, and he vomited after the race.
Kahne had hoped to run at least one more time in 2018 but that won't happen. He said in his statement Tuesday that he was not cleared by doctors after a test session last week at Charlotte Motor Speedway.
*Haven't seen much of him at the front of the pack for some time.........
Quote from: Chargen69 on October 15, 2018, 06:03:54 AM
Quote from: JB400 on October 14, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Well, with Almirola winning today, and doing pretty good this year, does that give indication of the actual performance of the team that Danica had, or is Almirola doing a better job of relaying what he actually needs from his team to get the performance that he needs to win?
he is better than her, BUT he got lucky. no way was he driving around kurt or kevin for that win
Also true. His only other Cup win was at Daytona was on a rain out.
Talladega is historically a dark horse track. It is refreshing to see someone other than the regulars win once in a while.
The Stewart Haas 1-2-3-4 train was impressive.
Not much of a race was it?
I'm surprised Kahne is retiring over heat issues in this era of cool-suited drivers.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 15, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Not much of a race was it?
Pretty clean and uneventful race. Last lap with the four cars would have been interesting had there not been that last yellow.
Quote from: Aero426 on October 15, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 15, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Not much of a race was it?
Pretty clean and uneventful race. Last lap with the four cars would have been interesting had there not been that last yellow.
True. It would have been really interesting if there were 2 lines.....but without carnage - if that's possible :)
I had a discussion with a friend awhile back regarding the present state of NASCAR Racing since he was (and still is) a huge fan for many years. I wanted to get his take on what fans today think about "Stock Car" Racing.
I myself have pretty much stop watching as my favorite drivers are no longer active. Having said that, one thing I would like to see would be a change to the cars as they are today. I understand that the "Green House" or "Cockpit" area of the cars were enlarged to enable drivers to exit and enter much easier...making it safer and quicker to get out after an accident. So I have no real issue with this area of the car. However, I would like to see the cars use the same front clip (bumper area, fenders and hood) that you would find on production cars as well as the rear area comprising the deck lid, quarter panels and rear bumper. With, of course consideration given to mods for safety, such as front and rear spoilers, covers for headlights, etc. This would help to do away with the "funny car" with decal look. That way we could actually tell what kind of car it is and perhaps even relate to what we drive to the race. I also like the idea that another member put forth, that of putting a limit on the total area that can be covered with sponsor logos. This would make the cars look much cleaner, much as they did in the '60's. It might also give manufacturers the incentive to build a car such as the Monte Carlo SS with its aero front end. Giving us enthusiasts a car we can actually be excited about. (No, I don't see anyone building another Daytona or Superbird). That way it would be up to the manufacturers to build something that can both win on the high banks as well as on the showroom. Just my two cents.....either way, NASCAR needs to do something to get people in the stands....or in front of the TV. :scratchchin:
(Perhaps, shorter races that don't last four hours.........??) :shruggy:
Random thoughts in no particular order.
I think that no matter what NASCAR doe, someone will complain. Because "it isn't like what it was in (insert decade here)."
We have brand identity front and rear, but a total fantasy between the cowl and rear bumper cover because of common templates. "Gotta have parity for the show!"
I think the current cars look MUCH better than the twisted sister look of the early 2000's. Those car looking back are grotesque.
If I want to see production based Mustangs and Camaros race, I can see them in the Continental Tire Series (now owned by NASCAR).
I have accepted that the current Cup cars are McRacecars and that the toothpaste is out of the tube.
While the on track cars are irrelevant to production, Ford Chevy and Brand X are lots of TV time out of the deal. Unless the manufacturers lean harder for some additional relevancy, I don't see much changing. Heck, they are moving away from cars. "Sedan" is now a dirty word.
QuoteHeck, they are moving away from cars. "Sedan" is now a dirty word.
Ford is quitting all sedans in the US market.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/ford-is-basically-giving-up-on-us-car-business-and-gm-is-not-far-behind.html
Going by the concept of the sport, NASCAR's top series should be running "crossover" minivan/wagon/SUVs.
What's Joey's odds of winning the championship this year? :D
Quote from: JB400 on October 28, 2018, 05:54:24 PM
What's Joey's odds of winning the championship this year? :D
Notgonnahappen.com
He is screwed.
Old timey racin' !!!!!!!
Go at it, boys! :2thumbs:
Keeping with the 'old timey' theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meCZ5hWNRFU
Quote from: odcics2 on October 28, 2018, 07:59:22 PM
Old timey racin' !!!!!!!
Go at it, boys! :2thumbs:
Keeping with the 'old timey' theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meCZ5hWNRFU
It was old timey. Pretty good race. I am no fan of JL, but glad to see the Brand X car get beat.
I have always been a fan of everything Penske has done in all forms of racing over the last few decades....including being the last Mopar team to win the (insert name here) cup championship. So, that leaves JL to cheer for I guess. Blaney or BK would have been preferable.
Truex needs to stop crying. That was classic Martinsville. I do like Truex as a racer/person.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 29, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
I'm have always been a fan of everything Penske has done in all forms of racing over the last few decades....including being the last Mopar team to win the (insert name here) cup championship. So, that leaves JL to cheer for I guess. Blaney or BK would have been preferable.
Truex needs to stop crying. That was classic Martinsville. I do like Truex as a racer/person.
Agree.
Martin may get his chance to even the score. Even though Martin raced him clean, what Logano did was not particularly dirty. But it certainly leaves the door open for a payback. NASCAR had to love it.
I like penske pretty well, but seriously if JL is a champion over the big three that have dominated all year, I'll quit watching the three races that i do watch
Quote from: Chargen69 on October 31, 2018, 06:48:31 AM
I like penske pretty well, but seriously if JL is a champion over the big three that have dominated all year, I'll quit watching the three races that i do watch
But Napscar will say "Everyone likes a underdog" :smilielol:
Yes, but not a a$$hole underdog.
Bump and run.
Standard practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXiT-_L-1QA
:coolgleamA:
Looks like Harvick got busted with an illegal spoiler. https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2018/11/07/kevin-harvick-team-penalty-texas-40-points/
Truex joins JGR for next year: https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2018/11/07/martin-truex-jr-cole-pearn-join-joe-gibbs-racing-2019/
and people wondered why hardly anybody could touch them
Quote from: JB400 on November 07, 2018, 01:47:45 PM
Truex joins JGR for next year: https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2018/11/07/martin-truex-jr-cole-pearn-join-joe-gibbs-racing-2019/
:o I missed that somewhere. I'm no JGR fan though, but it is not surprising because him being a Toyota guy
Your final 4: Harvick, Truex Jr., Kyle Busch, Logano.
Made for a good race today at Phoenix.
Prediction Harvick or Busch for champion.
Quote from: JB400 on November 11, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
Prediction Harvick or Busch for champion.
I'd like to see Truex take out Logano.
Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 12, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 11, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
Prediction Harvick or Busch for champion.
I'd like to see Truex take out Logano.
I would like to see
anybody take out Logano
We lost David Pearson:
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2018/11/12/nascar-hall-of-famer-david-pearson-obituary/
Quote from: A383Wing on November 12, 2018, 07:47:46 PM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on November 12, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 11, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
Prediction Harvick or Busch for champion.
I'd like to see Truex take out Logano.
I would like to see anybody take out Logano
Aric doesnt have anything to lose now
:2thumbs: :cheers: :drive:
Out with a whimper. Homestead this weekend is the last time the Challenger body will be eligible. Carl Long's Xfinity car.
It'd be cool to see Dodge come back, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon.
Quote from: JB400 on October 28, 2018, 05:54:24 PM
What's Joey's odds of winning the championship this year? :D
Looks like it was pretty good odds this year. However, Kyle Busch won the regular seaon.
Well crap..... :brickwall:
That totally sucked!!!!!! Truex should have moved the punk. He had the chance earlier to do it. He failed. I know he was trying to be clean, but come on. I knew when they lined up that Logano was faster for 20 laps on new tires. Everyone across the nation knew that Logano was faster for the first 20 laps on new tires. What were Truex and his team thinking was going to happen? It was time to back up your mouth and you didn't do it. Just sucked!!!!!!
Quote from: Aero426 on November 15, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
Out with a whimper. Homestead this weekend is the last time the Challenger body will be eligible. Carl Long's Xfinity car.
Last of the Mohicans for now I take it..
Not my favorite driver - but happy for Penske. He is a mans man and all class. Could have been worse....like KB.
I personally would have taken Kyle over Logano. He whined and cried saying Newman was racing him too hard last year and they should have just rode around till the end, then race. Newman said, I thought we were here to race. Can't stand him no matter who he's driving for.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 19, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
Not my favorite driver - but happy for Penske. He is a mans man and all class. Could have been worse....like KB.
agree.
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 19, 2018, 10:10:22 AM
That totally sucked!!!!!! Truex should have moved the punk. He had the chance earlier to do it. He failed. I know he was trying to be clean, but come on. I knew when they lined up that Logano was faster for 20 laps on new tires. Everyone across the nation knew that Logano was faster for the first 20 laps on new tires. What were Truex and his team thinking was going to happen? It was time to back up your mouth and you didn't do it. Just sucked!!!!!!
Yea, Truex even said that he would move him even before the race even started.......I was waiting for it....never happened
Maybe he got orders from the boss not to take Joey out....maybe he wanted to be remembered that he was a clean racer......either way, it was an opportunity that was missed
Hell....even Joey said that that's the way he races and he's not gonna change his style......he should be fair game to everyone out there from here on out
I am not really a JL fan, but I appreciate it was a clean race that didn't have wrecks at the end and several overtime restarts. Maybe if Truex had gotten back to his bumper at the end, he would have moved him. I certainly have respect for Martin and how he races. Glad to see an American brand win.
Quote from: odcics2 on November 21, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 19, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
Not my favorite driver - but happy for Penske. He is a mans man and all class. Could have been worse....like KB.
agree.
I actually hate JL more then KB. ::)
Quote from: TruckDriver on November 22, 2018, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on November 21, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 19, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
Not my favorite driver - but happy for Penske. He is a mans man and all class. Could have been worse....like KB.
agree.
I actually hate JL more then KB. ::)
And I hate Toyotas, most of all.
:patriot:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 21, 2018, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 19, 2018, 10:10:22 AM
That totally sucked!!!!!! Truex should have moved the punk. He had the chance earlier to do it. He failed. I know he was trying to be clean, but come on. I knew when they lined up that Logano was faster for 20 laps on new tires. Everyone across the nation knew that Logano was faster for the first 20 laps on new tires. What were Truex and his team thinking was going to happen? It was time to back up your mouth and you didn't do it. Just sucked!!!!!!
Yea, Truex even said that he would move him even before the race even started.......I was waiting for it....never happened
Maybe he got orders from the boss not to take Joey out....maybe he wanted to be remembered that he was a clean racer......either way, it was an opportunity that was missed
Hell....even Joey said that that's the way he races and he's not gonna change his style......he should be fair game to everyone out there from here on out
Nice guys finish... last? Ask Dale Sr. about his style... :2thumbs:
Yep, Dale Sr. was the dirtiest driver in NASCAR. Was never a fan. It kinda soured my feelings about Jr. just because of the relationship. But I sure loved to root against him!!!!!
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 22, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
Yep, Dale Sr. was the dirtiest driver in NASCAR. Was never a fan. It kinda soured my feelings about Jr. just because of the relationship. But I sure loved to root against him!!!!!
And that's what fans on both sides came to see.... :Twocents:
Quote from: odcics2 on November 23, 2018, 12:41:00 PM
Quote from: nvrbdn on November 22, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
Yep, Dale Sr. was the dirtiest driver in NASCAR. Was never a fan. It kinda soured my feelings about Jr. just because of the relationship. But I sure loved to root against him!!!!!
And that's what fans on both sides came to see.... :Twocents:
I completely agree. THAT is what fans want to see. Rubbing is racing where I grew up. I love it when they lean on each other hard, or race side by side hard. Football would be boring with no tackling, just like races are VERY boring with no contact in them. I know it costs teams a lot of money to fix cars, but it is the reality of racing. Contact is what makes figure 8 racing exciting, or demolition derby's exciting. In all sports, it is the thrill of something crazy happening. That is why I find all sports other then racing and football BORING. Sorry, just being honest.
I loved Dale Sr. And a lot of people say that he was dirty, but also forget the other drivers that were just as, or dirtier then Dale Sr. There were a few, just not as successful. Mr. Excitement for one, Jimmy Spencer, Ernie Irvan (swerven Ervan), Juan Pablo Montoya, Kevin Harvick when he was younger, Robby Gordon, Tony Stewart, Cale Yarborough, Lee Petty was known for being very aggressive. Even Darrel & Michael Waltrip. Dale Sr. was just racing before all the overkill rules that nascar invented. When you could get away with a lot more. Everyone always point to to Dale SR because he was always in the spotlight, yet there were all those other guys that raced with him, that were doing a lot of the same type of driving. And there always will be drivers like that.
Tony Stewart was one of the worse drivers out there for inflicting punishment, probably in second behind Sr.. He was always causing controversy. I agree with that. :2thumbs:
Kurt Busch to drive No. 1 car at Chip Ganassi Racing in 2019
https://sports.yahoo.com/finally-happening-kurt-busch-drive-no-1-car-chip-ganassi-racing-2019-180159175.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/finally-happening-kurt-busch-drive-no-1-car-chip-ganassi-racing-2019-180159175.html?src=rss)
Defunct Furniture Row Racing's NASCAR Cup charter bought for 2019
https://sports.yahoo.com/defunct-furniture-row-racing-apos-160443958.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/defunct-furniture-row-racing-apos-160443958.html?src=rss)
"The now-defunct Furniture Row Racing team that ran Martin Truex Jr to the 2017 NASCAR Cup series title has had its charter bought ahead of the '19 season.
The charter, which guarantees entry and the right to prize money, has been bought by the Spire Sports + Entertainment company, which has clients in NASCAR including Chip Ganassi Racing driver Kyle Larson."
John Andretti still battling colon cancer after chemotherapy
https://sports.yahoo.com/john-andretti-still-battling-colon-190035169.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/john-andretti-still-battling-colon-190035169.html?src=rss)
"I just ran out of ride tickets on the #chemocoaster," Andretti announced in a tweet. "We still have to deal with the cancer. Will know more following scans in a couple of weeks." :'(
really?? Jeff??
https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-hendrick-wants-jeff-gordon-151056881.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-hendrick-wants-jeff-gordon-151056881.html)
A.J. Allmendinger finds new home after losing Cup ride
https://sports.yahoo.com/j-allmendinger-finds-home-driving-173354647.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/j-allmendinger-finds-home-driving-173354647.html?src=rss)
"Allmendinger and NBC Sports Group reached an agreement for the driver to be a part of the network's exclusive IMSA coverage and he'll also frequently contribute to the NASCAR America during the season as well."
Iconic NASCAR track Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway set for revival
https://sports.yahoo.com/iconic-nascar-track-nashville-fairgrounds-155802174.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/iconic-nascar-track-nashville-fairgrounds-155802174.html?src=rss)
""I believe with the help of SMI the track can return to its glory days. I couldn't be more pleased and excited for the future of the track."
Current stars such as Kurt Busch have recently called for NASCAR to return to its roots, with Nashville falling into that category and seen as a link to its early days.
If Fairgrounds Speedway makes a NASCAR return, it is expected to initially host Xfinity and Trucks series races rather than rejoining the Cup calendar."
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Quote from: Chargen69 on December 14, 2018, 09:03:03 AM
really?? Jeff??
https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-hendrick-wants-jeff-gordon-151056881.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-hendrick-wants-jeff-gordon-151056881.html)
makes sense. he is already part owner and you would imagine he's built a ton of equity - both financial and reputational - in HMS. Plus, Hendrick doesn't really have an heir to take over anymore.
I agree. Supposedly, he's already part owner in JJ's ride, and was the one who picked Johnson to be in the ride. He knows the sport from just about every aspect. Pretty good choice I say
:'( NASCAR Hall of Famer Glen Wood, co-founder of Wood Brothers Racing, dies at 93 :'(
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-hall-famer-glen-wood-071044675.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-hall-famer-glen-wood-071044675.html?src=rss)
Glen Wood, a pioneering driver and co-founder of stock-car racing's longest-running team, died Friday morning. He was 93.
Wood's passing was announced by Wood Brothers Racing. Until his death, Wood was the oldest living member of the NASCAR Hall of Fame, inducted into its third class in 2012.
Quote from: JB400 on December 21, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
I agree. Supposedly, he's already part owner in JJ's ride, and was the one who picked Johnson to be in the ride. He knows the sport from just about every aspect. Pretty good choice I say
I don't know that he knows the sport from every aspect or not. my opinion is that Jeff for a long time only knew what his crew chief told him. case in point, his commentary. when he got out of the car and started talking on tv he let on how much he didn't know. a whole bunch of tv time was spent with DW correcting jeff instead of calling the race. it got old fast.
and having money doesn't always mean you know business.
NASCAR to disqualify cars — yes, even the winner — for post-race inspection failures
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-disqualify-cars-yes-even-winner-post-race-inspection-failures-185828877.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-disqualify-cars-yes-even-winner-post-race-inspection-failures-185828877.html?src=rss)
"The sanctioning body announced Monday that it would start disqualifying cars who fail post-race inspection for significant violations. NASCAR has previously been issuing points deductions and fines to cars and teams who had failed post-race inspection. The change means a race-winning driver and team will officially have the victory taken away from them if the car fails post-race inspection."
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 06, 2019, 07:04:10 PM
NASCAR to disqualify cars — yes, even the winner — for post-race inspection failures
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-disqualify-cars-yes-even-winner-post-race-inspection-failures-185828877.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-disqualify-cars-yes-even-winner-post-race-inspection-failures-185828877.html?src=rss)
"The sanctioning body announced Monday that it would start disqualifying cars who fail post-race inspection for significant violations. NASCAR has previously been issuing points deductions and fines to cars and teams who had failed post-race inspection. The change means a race-winning driver and team will officially have the victory taken away from them if the car fails post-race inspection."
What took them so long????? :shruggy:
That's what they used to do.
Bill France got burned a couple times in the beginning of the league (1940s/50s) when people went home thinking one person won the race, and then it changed later. It caused blowback and he decided it was bad policy. So they only enforced penalties in other ways.
In those days inspections & cheating were a smaller part of the sport in general. It was a MUCH smaller rulebook, they ran mostly dirt tracks so the car's details didn't matter as much, etc.
Looking for that "Unfair Advantage" has always been a big part of "Stock Car" Racing. Crew Chiefs against Inspectors has always been a part of the sport that made it interesting.
I don't see it stopping, so it will be interesting to see what happens when one of the major teams is caught and has it's victory taken away........it will happen......
QuoteLooking for that "Unfair Advantage" has always been a big part of "Stock Car" Racing. Crew Chiefs against Inspectors has always been a part of the sport that made it interesting.
I don't see it stopping, so it will be interesting to see what happens when one of the major teams is caught and has it's victory taken away........it will happen......
Oh yeah, secretly modifying cars was always a big part of the sport. The teams didn't do it any less 60-70 years ago. The league just enforced fewer rules against it. And the whole sport was operating with less precision. Dirt tracks, slower speeds, sloppy assembly-line tolerances on all the parts, etc.
The only reason why those early teams hadn't found all the modern ways to cheat on 0.1" yet, is because they were cheating in much bigger/easier ways and getting away with it.
Old School NASCAR Fans: "'cheating' and being 'creative' with the rules are inherent to the sport and part of what made it great. Blah to these new rules! They're ruining the sport!"
Jimmie Johnson fan: "damn, can you believe he's won 7 titles?"
Old School NASCAR Fans: "please...he and his crew chief were cheaters and thus not deserving of any praise whatsoever!"
Pretty much.
The sport's whole attitude about building cars and cheating is a contradiction at the core: The racers should put together their own car, do it the best they can, but everyone should be racing the same stock cars and you shouldn't be winning with better equipment.
"We encourage you to add 1+1 together but we don't want anyone having 2."
I wonder how much longer before Nascar just makes their own cars, and the teams just rent them from Nascar? All Nascar is doing is raising the cost of racing with each rule change.
QuoteI wonder how much longer before Nascar just makes their own cars, and the teams just rent them from Nascar? All Nascar is doing is raising the cost of racing with each rule change.
The audience would rebel if they did a standardized spec car. Witness the backlash lately about the different brands' bodies getting too similar.
That's what the IROC series was - a whole race of fully identical cars (supplied by the league) with only fine-tuning changes allowed. It was never popular like NASCAR has been.
The audience wants totally contradictory things. They want the cars to have all the 'individualizing' moves. Different bodies & engines for each brand. Each team builds their own, looking for any edge they can find. But the audience also wants exciting (read: close) races. They get frustrated when any driver develops a big lead with better equipment. That pressures NASCAR to keep the cars as even as possible.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 07, 2019, 01:27:50 PM
Old School NASCAR Fans: "'cheating' and being 'creative' with the rules are inherent to the sport and part of what made it great. Blah to these new rules! They're ruining the sport!"
Jimmie Johnson fan: "damn, can you believe he's won 7 titles?"
Old School NASCAR Fans: "please...he and his crew chief were cheaters and thus not deserving of any praise whatsoever!"
My all time favorite driver, and one of the most popular drivers of all time (sorry Jr.)......Richard Petty was caught more than once being "overly creative" with his cars.
But, no one ever said he was "not deserving of any praise"....ok more than one competitor back in the day wasn't overly happy with his winning ways.
It seemed that back in the day NASCAR was more concerned with the cars on the track matching the body templates as their main area of compliance. (Thank you
Smokey and your Black and Gold Chevelle). Is there an answer? It seems as if NASCAR can't seem to find one. Changing rules when one team starts to
dominate is like closing the barn door AFTER the horses got out.....and like it's been said....only adds dollars to a team's effort.
:Twocents: :Twocents: :Twocents:
Quote from: JB400 on February 07, 2019, 07:32:56 PM
I wonder how much longer before Nascar just makes their own cars, and the teams just rent them from Nascar? All Nascar is doing is raising the cost of racing with each rule change.
can anybody say IROC racing... there wasn't enough money in it was there?
Personally, I enjoyed IROC. Only issue I seen, was not enough drivers for a race. It didn't showcase the full talent of the drivers, like it was intended to.
Well, JJ starts the new season off with a bang......if ya can't beat them, beat up on them to win
:flame:
Yep, if yah can't beat'm .. wreck'm ! "I saw it was raining in the next turns, so I decided it was time to get to the front" ! :slap:
Yea....I think Menard had that race won if JJ hadn't taken him out.....Paul didn't move his car at all until Jimmy hit him in the left rear and turned him
used to work pretty well for dale sr
Quote from: birdsandbees on February 10, 2019, 06:16:30 PM
Yep, if yah can't beat'm .. wreck'm ! "I saw it was raining in the next turns, so I decided it was time to get to the front" ! :slap:
Earnhardt say that? :icon_smile_blackeye:
Quote from: odcics2 on February 11, 2019, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on February 10, 2019, 06:16:30 PM
Yep, if yah can't beat'm .. wreck'm ! "I saw it was raining in the next turns, so I decided it was time to get to the front" ! :slap:
Earnhardt say that? :icon_smile_blackeye:
No, Jimmy Johnson said that yesterday after he won the race in the interview
Don't forget about the Twin Duel races tonight at 6pm eastern time. (about a half hour from now) On FOX SPORTS ONE.
:drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :popcrn: :2thumbs: GREEN FLAG FEW MINUTES :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
I hope it is more exciting then the Xfinity race was yesterday. My god that was boring..
Well, that sucks for the 95. Had a great run going for such an under rated team.
Damn Toyota won. :flame:
BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I get the feeling that Toyota's biggest mistake was coming into NASCAR and getting too good too fast.
If they had started off terrible, spent 6 or 7 years working their way up, not running unpopular drivers, and kept their cheating busts below average . . . it might have gone over a lot better. More people would be feeling like they had 'paid their dues' by now.
I couldn't believe I had dropped to a new low.
I WAS ACTUALLY PULLING FOR KYLE BUSCH TO WIN.
anybody but JL...
Quote from: Chargen69 on February 18, 2019, 12:12:32 PM
I couldn't believe I had dropped to a new low.
I WAS ACTUALLY PULLING FOR KYLE BUSCH TO WIN.
anybody but JL...
Really? :smilielol:
I was rooting for Kyle or Denny to win, this was dedicated to the passing of JD Gibbs.....
I'll root for anyone as long as JJ, JL, or BK don't win
Bryan
Quote from: odcics2 on February 18, 2019, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: Chargen69 on February 18, 2019, 12:12:32 PM
I couldn't believe I had dropped to a new low.
I WAS ACTUALLY PULLING FOR KYLE BUSCH TO WIN.
anybody but JL...
Really? :smilielol:
yes, I am ashamed to admit it to myself even. when it looked like JL was destined to win, I heard that thought roll through my head, I'd rather Kyle win it
Anyone other then BK or JL.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 17, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
I get the feeling that Toyota's biggest mistake was coming into NASCAR and getting too good too fast.
If they had started off terrible, spent 6 or 7 years working their way up, not running unpopular drivers, and kept their cheating busts below average . . . it might have gone over a lot better. More people would be feeling like they had 'paid their dues' by now.
Aside from Kyle Busch and occasionally Hamlin, they really weren't all that great for the first 6-7 years they were around (no championships, no Daytona 500 wins, etc) until 2015-2016.. And that's because their flagship team (JGR) was already a powerhouse. Red Bull Racing, MWR, and so on...they were all a shit show at best. I'd say they paid their dues. Even if the Billy Bobs are still hung up on the "not 'murrican" nonsense.
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2019, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 17, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
I get the feeling that Toyota's biggest mistake was coming into NASCAR and getting too good too fast.
If they had started off terrible, spent 6 or 7 years working their way up, not running unpopular drivers, and kept their cheating busts below average . . . it might have gone over a lot better. More people would be feeling like they had 'paid their dues' by now.
Aside from Kyle Busch and occasionally Hamlin, they really weren't all that great for the first 6-7 years they were around (no championships, no Daytona 500 wins, etc) until 2015-2016.. And that's because their flagship team (JGR) was already a powerhouse. Red Bull Racing, MWR, and so on...they were all a shit show at best. I'd say they paid their dues. Even if the Billy Bobs are still hung up on the "not 'murrican" nonsense.
Lot of the "Billy Bobs" left Nascar already.
Letting Toyota in was a mistake and Nascar is paying for it with less attendance.
https://jalopnik.com/the-daytona-500-is-sold-out-but-only-after-the-track-r-1823115572
And there were STILL empty seats in the upper tiers...
:scratchchin:
Quote from: odcics2 on February 19, 2019, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 19, 2019, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 17, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
I get the feeling that Toyota's biggest mistake was coming into NASCAR and getting too good too fast.
If they had started off terrible, spent 6 or 7 years working their way up, not running unpopular drivers, and kept their cheating busts below average . . . it might have gone over a lot better. More people would be feeling like they had 'paid their dues' by now.
Aside from Kyle Busch and occasionally Hamlin, they really weren't all that great for the first 6-7 years they were around (no championships, no Daytona 500 wins, etc) until 2015-2016.. And that's because their flagship team (JGR) was already a powerhouse. Red Bull Racing, MWR, and so on...they were all a shit show at best. I'd say they paid their dues. Even if the Billy Bobs are still hung up on the "not 'murrican" nonsense.
Lot of the "Billy Bobs" left Nascar already.
Letting Toyota in was a mistake and Nascar is paying for it with less attendance.
https://jalopnik.com/the-daytona-500-is-sold-out-but-only-after-the-track-r-1823115572
And there were STILL empty seats in the upper tiers...
:scratchchin:
I doubt its Toyota. More than likely, the "novelty" of the mid 90's-00's wore off and there simply aren't any drivers who are marketable/likeable enough - there's really no semi-household name who can fill the "face of the sport" role like Earnhardt Sr or Gordon did. Also, yeah, the racing is somewhat boring.
If Toyota hadn't come in when it did, esp. with Dodge pulling out and Chevy/Ford cutting back, the sport may have died or actually become a one manufacturer spec series.
I personally know guys that gave up season tickets at MIS when Toyota got in... :Twocents:
Yeah, Nascar has way more problems than that, though.
How do they get folks back when there is a general lack of interest?
Saw a post once that said Nascar died when Dale Sr. did.
Some truth to that, perhaps?
I say it's partly true. The introduction of the CoT really brought things down for NASCAR. It was safer for the drivers, but it didn't put on that exciting of a show. Plus, it didn't have enough brand identity to it.
Sports have peaks & valleys in popularity. Lots of factors play into it.
15 years ago NASCAR was at a high point. Now it's in a deep valley.
Quote from: JB400 on February 17, 2019, 06:27:46 PM
Well, that sucks for the 95. Had a great run going for such an under rated team.
They are now a full throated Gibbs operation and should be competitive. Gibbs cars. Gibbs engines. Gibbs personnel. Think "Furniture Row East"
Here's a neat summary of the race: Start. Drone on. Pit stops. Drone on. Pit stops. Then continue droning on until Lap 190. Then it's run, crash, run, crash, red flag, run, crash, red flag, overtime, checkered flag. Done. And they call this "The Great American Race?"
Quote from: Aero426 on February 20, 2019, 10:26:58 AM
Here's a neat summary of the race: Start. Drone on. Pit stops. Drone on. Pit stops. Then continue droning on until Lap 190. Then it's run, crash, run, crash, red flag, run, crash, red flag, overtime, checkered flag. Done. And they call this "The Great American Race?"
:cheers:
Quote from: Aero426 on February 20, 2019, 10:26:58 AM
Here's a neat summary of the race: Start. Drone on. Pit stops. Drone on. Pit stops. Then continue droning on until Lap 190. Then it's run, crash, run, crash, red flag, run, crash, red flag, overtime, checkered flag. Done. And they call this "The Great American Race?"
well that's another thing. Does anyone really want to watch a 400-500 mile/lap race that lasts 4 hours? Sure, a car/driver that lasted a 500 mile race may have been a technological achievement in the 50s and 60s, but nowadays its "meh". Id rather watch a short race that is exciting vs. a long race that only warrants your attention for the first 10 and last 10 laps - with 3.5 hours of boredom in between. Of course, NASCAR and tv dont want to give up precious advertising time...
I dunno, if they can't cut a race in half bc of tradition and financial motives, then maybe they should consider turning them into heats, or breaking them up like they already do with the Duels. I mean, the whole "stage" thing theyve been doing for the last couple of years seems to be leading to that.
The answer is:
Nascar Drag Racing
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
I'd like to see a pair of Toyotas hit in the "X"! Fun times. :smilielol:
Also - Secret photo found of the next Gen -7 Nascar racer, said to do away with the need for clean air.
Please don't spread this around the 'net!
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
NASCAR trailer races!
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
NASCAR trailer races!
GREAT IDEA! Looking forward to seeing pit stops!
Crew chief to driver: "What ya think? Take 2, 4, 8, 16? Or gas and go?" (250 gallons)
Driver to crew chief: "12! Take a 1/2 pound out of 3, 5, 8 and 9. Add a 1/2 pound to 1, 6, 10 and 12."
Quote from: odcics2 on February 26, 2019, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
NASCAR trailer races!
GREAT IDEA! Looking forward to seeing pit stops!
Crew chief to driver: "What ya think? Take 2, 4, 8, 16? Or gas and go?" (250 gallons)
Driver to crew chief: "12! Take a 1/2 pound out of 3, 5, 8 and 9. Add a 1/2 pound to 1, 6, 10 and 12."
was thinking more along these lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alZnEqO-uFo
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 26, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on February 26, 2019, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on February 25, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on February 23, 2019, 02:26:43 PM
Nascar figure 8 racing will bring viewers, lol.
NASCAR trailer races!
GREAT IDEA! Looking forward to seeing pit stops!
Crew chief to driver: "What ya think? Take 2, 4, 8, 16? Or gas and go?" (250 gallons)
Driver to crew chief: "12! Take a 1/2 pound out of 3, 5, 8 and 9. Add a 1/2 pound to 1, 6, 10 and 12."
was thinking more along these lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alZnEqO-uFo
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Strangely quiet from the BK and JL haters..... :shruggy:
that's because we don't watch racing anymore... duh
Quote from: Chargen69 on March 09, 2019, 08:35:09 AM
that's because we don't watch racing anymore... duh
:smilielol:
Schedule shake-up: 2020 NASCAR Cup Series slate gets a makeover
A totally different scheduled, and completely different final 10 races, and more "off" time for teams.
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2019/03/26/2020-nascar-schedule-revealed-playoffs-championship-race-changes/?linkId=100000005594450&fbclid=IwAR3XEYEKp_y4FXLhDBTZkNexKmU6GzgmcHOHDbIqrv-8jveVX4N2TZ3Oz20 (https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2019/03/26/2020-nascar-schedule-revealed-playoffs-championship-race-changes/?linkId=100000005594450&fbclid=IwAR3XEYEKp_y4FXLhDBTZkNexKmU6GzgmcHOHDbIqrv-8jveVX4N2TZ3Oz20)
Looks like Dolly Parton is sponsoring a car this weekend.....It's pink
https://www.google.com/amp/gmauthority.com/blog/2019/04/dolly-parton-enters-nascar-as-a-sponsor/amp/
(https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NASCAR-Dolly-Parton-1.jpg)
Well, I am sad to see that this will make a lot of you sad here :lol:
Pretty good read though.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-on-fox-analyst-darrell-waltrip-will-retire-in-2019-192547213.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-on-fox-analyst-darrell-waltrip-will-retire-in-2019-192547213.html?src=rss)
Waltrip revealed Thursday to the Tennesseean that he'll retire after Fox's NASCAR coverage concludes this summer.
Personally, I'd rather see his brother retire first, but that's just me
Quote from: JB400 on April 04, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
Personally, I'd rather see his brother retire first, but that's just me
I'm tired of listening to both of them.....but that's just me
Quote from: A383Wing on April 05, 2019, 11:57:18 AM
I'm tired of listening to both of them.....but that's just me
They were both ready to go out to pasture back when they got rid of Digger and Friends.
I will miss him.....another name from the past is leaving (moving on).....He was a colorful driver in days past who left his mark on the sport.
However.....I will not miss hearing his catchphrase....."Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, Let's go racing boys" at the start of the race! :slap:
Darrell.....enjoy your retirement.... :2thumbs:
Mario Andretti History....on this date in 1959
April 25, 1959
The legendary driver Mario Andretti makes his racing debut, winning at the Nazareth Motor Speed-way (Pennsylvania) in a 1948 Hudson.
NASCAR returns to single-car qualifying for Cup, Xfinity and Trucks
https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-returns-single-car-qualifying-194854380.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-returns-single-car-qualifying-194854380.html?src=rss)
Single-car qualifying is returning to the NASCAR Cup, beginning this weekend at Dover International Speedway.
For remainder of the season, qualifying for the Cup, as well as in the Xfinity and Truck championships', will move to a single-car, single-round format at all race tracks except road courses.
At oval tracks measuring 1.25 miles in length or less, qualifying will consist of two timed laps.
But at oval tracks measuring more than 1.25 miles in length, qualifying will consist of one timed lap.
The group qualifying format will remain in place at road courses, and the qualifying order draw will be determined by the previous race's starting lineup.
In the Cup, the top 20 starters from the previous race will draw to take their qualifying lap in positions 21-40, which will take place in the second half of qualifying.
The remainder of the drivers will draw to qualify in positions 1-20.
In a different article on this subject, they also said NASCAR its self was not happy how drivers waited until the last few seconds of qualifying to go out.
Now they realize they did it right the first time
:lol: NASCAR's plan to boost attendance and ratings: Betting on races
https://alabamanewscenter.com/2019/05/12/nascars-plan-boost-attendance-ratings-betting-races/?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss (https://alabamanewscenter.com/2019/05/12/nascars-plan-boost-attendance-ratings-betting-races/?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss?src=rss)
"Gentlemen, place your wagers.
NASCAR has signed an exclusive data partnership with Genius Sports, a deal the U.S.'s largest racing series says will lead to an in-race betting product and help battle sagging attendance and television ratings.
Genius will use up-to-the-second data points like car speed and track position to build a betting product that the London-based company can sell to global sports books. Exclusive access to the data will allow Genius to create a betting platform that provides traditional wagers – like who will win – and prop bets such as how many lead changes there will be or whether a Chevy will end up in victory lane.
Financial terms weren't disclosed."
wow. as if conspiracy theories didn't already exist about nascar and the outcomes of some races, this will do nothing to make it better
why is that going to make me want to buy a ticket?
NASCAR Acquires 12 Major Racetracks in $2B Merger with International Speedway
https://www.onallcylinders.com/2019/05/28/nascar-acquires-12-major-racetracks-in-2b-merger-with-international-speedway/?fbclid=IwAR3CuyH0a7nYHshwwyiTx2NqV-yjphiFtc49MBlQiTYU7sjkn-MERGQA9j0 (https://www.onallcylinders.com/2019/05/28/nascar-acquires-12-major-racetracks-in-2b-merger-with-international-speedway/?fbclid=IwAR3CuyH0a7nYHshwwyiTx2NqV-yjphiFtc49MBlQiTYU7sjkn-MERGQA9j0)
The 12 International Speedway Corp.-owned tracks which will now be under the control of NASCAR per this deal are:
Auto Club Speedway in Fontana, CA
Chicagoland Speedway in Joliet, IL
Darlington Raceway in Darlington, SC
Daytona International Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL
Homestead-Miami Speedway in Homestead, FL
ISM Raceway in Avondale, AZ
Kansas Speedway in Kansas City, KS
Martinsville Speedway in Ridgeway, VA
Michigan International Speedway in Brooklyn, MI
Richmond Raceway in Richmond, VA
Talladega Superspeedway in Lincoln, AL
Watkins Glen International in Watkins Glen, NY
Also included in the deal is Iowa Speedway in Newton, IA, but NASCAR already had control of it prior to the merger.
don't races switch off fox this weekend?? what is time an station of june 30 ? race?/ THANKS,, my putor is not shreaching at all..DJ :2thumbs:
Quote from: djcarguy on June 27, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
don't races switch off fox this weekend?? what is time an station of june 30 ? race?/ THANKS,, my putor is not shreaching at all..DJ :2thumbs:
3PM eastern on NBCSN.
Cole Trickle is going to run at Darlington: https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2019/08/01/william-byron-brings-back-thunder-with-darlington-throwback-scheme/
On another note, JJ gets a new crew chief effective immediately
Looks like Bubba Wallace will do a tribute to Adam for Darlington:
(https://www.nascar.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2019/08/Victory-Junction-TB-2019-CHEVY-F-3-4-1b-768x418.jpg)
Just to bad, RP can't get better running cars. Bubba's average finish is what? 22/23.
Brad's running my favorite version of Rusty's car:
(https://www.nascar.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2019/08/DAR-19-888336-Paint-Scheme-Social-Assets_Brad-Keselowski-1-1472x1472.jpg)
Quote from: TruckDriver on August 09, 2019, 10:12:00 PM
Just to bad, RP can't get better running cars. Bubba's average finish is what? 22/23.
Sorry, the 1974 Charger is not legal!
:popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: Darlington 6ET an 3PT :drool5: :drool5: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Not even a full grid for todays race. :rotz:
Quote from: odcics2 on September 01, 2019, 11:40:50 AM
Not even a full grid for todays race. :rotz:
Race was great. Too bad came down to JGR vs JGR. The Cup cars are now able to run flat through turn 1 & 2. Amazing.
Hard to have a bad race at that track, ....and with all the throwback coverage. Its no wonder that the track sells out.
I enjoyed watching it. First race I've watched in a few months
Not a Austin Dillon fan, but the black and gold tribute car to Richard Childress was by far the prettiest ones out there. I never got to see the end. I was falling asleep and went to bed at the second stage ending.
Empty grandstands at Indy. Sad.
If its anything like our Formula One races in Europe its the average earning race fan being priced out of being able to go.....
Quote from: alfaitalia on September 08, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
If its anything like our Formula One races in Europe its the average earning race fan being priced out of being able to go.....
F1 might be the most fan-unfriendly racing on the planet. It is intentionally exclusive. You can buy a seat for any NASCAR Cup race for $100 or less. It is all the other costs that can add up. Hotels have been known for gouging since 1969.
Paul Menard out of the #21 for 2020. Guido in after being dropped out of the #95. Seems like a positive move for the Wood Brothers. The #21 is the unofficial 4th Penske car.
Hopefully, Matt will put the 21 back in victory lane. He's doing pretty good with last years Gibbs equipment
Richard Childress to drive car Dale Earnhardt won last race in at 'Dega
https://sports.yahoo.com/richard-childress-drive-car-dale-192815413.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/richard-childress-drive-car-dale-192815413.html?src=rss)
Richard Childress will once again climb behind the wheel of a race car – but it won't be just any race car and it won't be at just any race track. Childress announced Wednesday that he will pace the field prior to the start of the Oct. 13 Cup playoff race at Talladega Superspeedway, driving one of the most renowned cars in the sport: the same No. 3 GM Goodwrench Chevrolet Monte Carlo that the late Dale Earnhardt drove to the 76th and final win of his Cup career nearly 19 years earlier in the Winston 500 at Talladega on Oct. 15, 2000.
And to no surprise...
Christopher Bell in the 95 next year.
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2019/09/24/christopher-bell-2020-leavine-family-racing-nascar-silly-season/
Personally, I'm surprised they didn't put Jones in this ride and put Bell in the 20. But he's a favorite from the Xfinity series.
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.yahoo.com/news/roush-replacing-stenhouse-chris-buescher-172023355.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/roush-replacing-stenhouse-chris-buescher-172023355.html)
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's going to be the driver to turn Roush around and into victory lane.
no but ricky needed to go
Surprised there is no mention of the spec chassis by Dallara for all teams!! :rotz: :rotz: :rotz:
https://racer.com/2019/08/31/dallara-tipped-to-build-new-gen-7-nascar-chassis/
Rick Hendrick confirmed it. A lot of talk on some sites, pro and con....
Quote from: odcics2 on September 08, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Empty grandstands at Indy. Sad.
Did you see how many empty seats there were at Bristol? I remember just a few years ago how there was a 2 year waiting list to get tickets.
The tickets themselves might be cheap, but everything else isn't.
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 26, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 08, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Empty grandstands at Indy. Sad.
Did you see how many empty seats there were at Bristol? I remember just a few years ago how there was a 2 year waiting list to get tickets.
The tickets themselves might be cheap, but everything else isn't.
Didn't see it. Sounds like a lot of others didn't see it either!
Perhaps Nascar is (was?) a fad that's past the due date.
Quote from: odcics2 on September 26, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 26, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 08, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Empty grandstands at Indy. Sad.
Did you see how many empty seats there were at Bristol? I remember just a few years ago how there was a 2 year waiting list to get tickets.
The tickets themselves might be cheap, but everything else isn't.
Didn't see it. Sounds like a lot of others didn't see it either!
Perhaps Nascar is (was?) a fade that's past the due date.
IDK...if you read through some of my past posts in this thread, I keep saying "the racing isn't any more boring than it was 30 years ago" BUT I have to admit that all of these rule changes (Stage wins, and whatnot) have somewhat turned me off. That, and a lot of the guys who were driving back when I got into it in the late 90's / early 00's have either retired or are no longer competitive. I mean, who's left? Kurt Busch, Johnson, Harvick?
On the other hand, the racing at Indy
is boring as hell to watch. And from what I've read, looks like hotels and other businesses near Bristol were getting a little too trigger happy when it came to gouging race fans to the point where it may have backfired on them.
The sport's core demographic doesn't have any money to spend. They haven't in over a decade. That has a little something to do with it.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 26, 2019, 04:55:04 PM
The sport's core demographic doesn't have any money to spend. They haven't in over a decade. That has a little something to do with it.
What are you talking about? We have the best economy in years. Lowest unemployment rate, I tell you. Huge numbers. And it's only going to get better. You're not going believe it. Incredible. Best of all time.
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 26, 2019, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 26, 2019, 04:55:04 PM
The sport's core demographic doesn't have any money to spend. They haven't in over a decade. That has a little something to do with it.
What are you talking about? We have the best economy in years. Lowest unemployment rate, I tell you. Huge numbers. And it's only going to get better. You're not going believe it. Incredible. Best of all time.
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :lol:
The big change with the new spec chassis car coming for 2021 will be devastating for the existing NASCAR industry. In short, NASCAR is going to one chassis supplier (Dallara). The cars will arrive in kit form and be assembled by the teams. They will get a Five Star composite body (similar to truck and Xfinity). It will have a transaxle and independent rear suspension. Maybe, it will retain 5 lug wheels. It is estimated it will put 1500 trades people out of work in the Charlotte area. No more chassis fabricators, no manufacturing of in-house parts. No body hangers.
Nascar is taking a big gamble with this spec car. It's either going to bring closer racing or it's going to drive fans away. Makes it hard to route for certain drivers though. There will not be a Petty, Yarborough, Waltrip, or Earnhardt.
The spec chassis isn't a bad idea. Seems like it would reduce costs.
Fans will bitch but their demands have never been realistic. They ask for stock/hand-built cars. Then they would complain when cars win races by 30 laps and only multi-millionaires could afford to drive them.
But the cars really need to LOOK brand-specific on the outside. You can't sell an illusion if you don't bother to keep up the illusion. NASCAR is pretty stubborn about ignoring this problem.
https://racer.com/2019/10/07/cup-series-2021-next-gen-prototype-on-track-this-week/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/10/nascar-drops-more-info-on-new-2021-car/
ACUDANUT is gonna lose his shit if he sees this...
https://jalopnik.com/hybrid-nascar-could-be-here-as-soon-as-2022-1838950895
QuoteACUDANUT is gonna lose his shit if he sees this...
https://jalopnik.com/hybrid-nascar-could-be-here-as-soon-as-2022-1838950895
Well it's said the fans want "stock" cars.... after hybrids, next will be auto transmissions and lane assist steering.
Quote from: RallyeMike on October 10, 2019, 05:16:04 PM
QuoteACUDANUT is gonna lose his shit if he sees this...
https://jalopnik.com/hybrid-nascar-could-be-here-as-soon-as-2022-1838950895
Well it's said the fans want "stock" cars.... after hybrids, next will be auto transmissions and lane assist steering.
As along Android Auto works... :2thumbs:
I'm happy for the 12....and for Penske. :cheers:
It'll be really interesting if Penske can get all 3 teams in the final 4
Quote from: RallyeMike on October 10, 2019, 05:16:04 PM
QuoteACUDANUT is gonna lose his shit if he sees this...
https://jalopnik.com/hybrid-nascar-could-be-here-as-soon-as-2022-1838950895
Well it's said the fans want "stock" cars.... after hybrids, next will be auto transmissions and lane assist steering.
I will promise you, I will complete stop watching already boring Nascar is they do one or all of that.
Quote from: Ponch ® on September 26, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 08, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
Empty grandstands at Indy. Sad.
Did you see how many empty seats there were at Bristol? I remember just a few years ago how there was a 2 year waiting list to get tickets.
The tickets themselves might be cheap, but everything else isn't.
I quit watching NASCAR when the Dodge's/ Plymouth's left. First back in the 70's... then again back in the 2000's.
The same thing with NHRA Pro Stock.
You see, I've have always been the car fan first... drivers not so much.
Unless that driver sticks with Mopar.
My son calls me a car racist... I loath anything other than Mopar.
I suppose he's right.
But guess what... all he owns is Mopar's. :icon_smile_big:
"NASCAR pushing to go full electric."
One of the reasons for attending a NASCAR race in person is for the sights and SOUNDS of the cars. Without the roar of the V-8s you might as well stay home and just turn the volume down. I guess I am just old and don't like change that much, but it appears as if each time NASCAR tries to draw in a younger crowd they lose more of those fans that made NASCAR so successful in the past. Personally, I stopped watching the races years ago...now I just watch the beginning and the end of any races that interest me. I feel as if I am wasting time if I sit in front of the TV for several hours when I could be doing something productive in the garage.
They lost me when the cars became all alike and only the decals make them different. Back in the day you could pull for the driver that was racing what you had in the driveway...Not today. And yes I understand that it's unrealistic to actually race factory stock cars at the speeds they are now going...it would become something more akin to "Death Race", something NASCAR learned back in the 1960s. But, is it asking too much to have manufactures race something that actually looks like what is sitting ion the showroom? Plus, I no longer have a favorite driver since all the "old guard" have retired. Richard Petty will always be my favorite driver.....
Perhaps NASCAR will have car owners install loud speakers on the cars with recordings of V-8s, since the electric cars will never sound as powerful. :shruggy:
*Maybe some country artist should write a song about the "good old days" of NASCAR and how many long for those days............ :'(
So if you thought the COT from 2008 was "different", just wait til you see the new car for 2021. It will be a spec McNASCAR chassis with independent rear suspension and a transaxle. All teams will do is assemble it. No fabrication. They will hang the spec plastic body. Expect to see the hybrid component come in 2022.
They will eventually add an electric hybrid component to the gasoline engine. It may be a push to pass device. But the car will still make noise. This is being driven by the manufacturers demanding to use technology that is relevant to their street offerings.
New manufacturer? The hot tip is Honda, and it makes sense. Honda and Penske have been involved in IMSA which is now owned by NASCAR. With a generic chassis, it makes the point of entry easier for new manufacturers to come in.
If you are an old school fan, all you can do is hold your nose. Or walk away.
I agree about the noise of racing...but that does not mean the full electric racing can't be exciting. Go onto youtube and take a look at Formula E...pretty exciting racing and they actually have a sound that belongs in a sci-fi film. You watch the battery running down on the screen and they risk running down to very low battery levels before they change cars. It's not like real Formula 1...but far from boring. I can't see hybrids racing....all the manufacturers are really try to go full electric...as hybrid will never be the solution....It's the worst of both engine types. Full electric or stick with gas.....until it's outlawed.
Full electric racing?? Big deal!
I grew up with slot cars! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
They should stick with alcohol and v8's. I doubt anyone wants to watch a full bodied formula one car go around the track. I will say at least F1 gives the manufacturers a little leeway in the design of their cars.
QuoteSo if you thought the COT from 2008 was "different", just wait til you see the new car for 2021. It will be a spec McNASCAR chassis with independent rear suspension and a transaxle. All teams will do is assemble it. No fabrication. They will hang the spec plastic body. Expect to see the hybrid component come in 2022.
They will eventually add an electric hybrid component to the gasoline engine. It may be a push to pass device. But the car will still make noise. This is being driven by the manufacturers demanding to use technology that is relevant to their street offerings.
New manufacturer? The hot tip is Honda, and it makes sense. Honda and Penske have been involved in IMSA which is now owned by NASCAR. With a generic chassis, it makes the point of entry easier for new manufacturers to come in.
If you are an old school fan, all you can do is hold your nose. Or walk away.
Is the independent rear end confirmed? I've heard a lot of "it's been discussed" but I haven't read any confirmation of it yet. (If they do, I'm wondering what platform they took the IRS from.)
The spec chassis -
Right now the top teams in the sport can't keep their heads above water because of high costs. Something major has to give. This will help. It would have been nice if they had given the contract to a local American outfit though.
The body -
plastic . . . if it reduces costs significantly then okay. If it's only marginally cheaper than steel then IMO It was a bad move.
IMO the league is being idiotic about the appearance of the bodies. For years people have asked for those cars to look closer to stock, and NASCAR just won't listen. They change a few decals or the shape of a rear quarter window and they expect that to make a difference? That's a joke. There's a lot of room to bring the bodies closer to stock before they start getting dangerous at 200 mph. NASCAR could offset the aero advantages between brands with restrictor plate & weight breaks (yeah, I know the evening-out wouldn't be perfect, but nothing ever is).
I've never understood the big backlash against having Toyota or Honda on the track. Nobody is required to cheer for them. Racing can use villains as well as heroes. The sport runs on rivalries.
Quote from: odcics2 on October 25, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
Full electric racing?? Big deal!
I grew up with slot cars! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Yep.
My Aurora set that I still have, and set up when I get the urge...
(https://i.imgur.com/jqChiY3.jpg)
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 25, 2019, 05:59:56 PM
QuoteSo if you thought the COT from 2008 was "different", just wait til you see the new car for 2021. It will be a spec McNASCAR chassis with independent rear suspension and a transaxle. All teams will do is assemble it. No fabrication. They will hang the spec plastic body. Expect to see the hybrid component come in 2022.
They will eventually add an electric hybrid component to the gasoline engine. It may be a push to pass device. But the car will still make noise. This is being driven by the manufacturers demanding to use technology that is relevant to their street offerings.
New manufacturer? The hot tip is Honda, and it makes sense. Honda and Penske have been involved in IMSA which is now owned by NASCAR. With a generic chassis, it makes the point of entry easier for new manufacturers to come in.
If you are an old school fan, all you can do is hold your nose. Or walk away.
Is the independent rear end confirmed? I've heard a lot of "it's been discussed" but I haven't read any confirmation of it yet. (If they do, I'm wondering what platform they took the IRS from.)
The spec chassis -
Right now the top teams in the sport can't keep their heads above water because of high costs. Something major has to give. This will help. It would have been nice if they had given the contract to a local American outfit though.
The body -
plastic . . . if it reduces costs significantly then okay. If it's only marginally cheaper than steel then IMO It was a bad move.
IMO the league is being idiotic about the appearance of the bodies. For years people have asked for those cars to look closer to stock, and NASCAR just won't listen. They change a few decals or the shape of a rear quarter window and they expect that to make a difference? That's a joke. There's a lot of room to bring the bodies closer to stock before they start getting dangerous at 200 mph. NASCAR could offset the aero advantages between brands with restrictor plate & weight breaks (yeah, I know the evening-out wouldn't be perfect, but nothing ever is).
I've never understood the big backlash against having Toyota or Honda on the track. Nobody is required to cheer for them. Racing can use villains as well as heroes. The sport runs on rivalries.
Each team now has 15 - 20 cars PER DRIVER. The cars are specialized, per type of track.
The need THREE cars: speedway, short track and a backup. Period. That would drop the cost !!
Tremendous amount of info on various threads on allpar.com
https://www.allpar.com/forums/forums/motorsports-racing-news.59/
QuoteEach team now has 15 - 20 cars PER DRIVER. The cars are specialized, per type of track.
Is the number still that high? FFS, no wonder NASCAR is taking action. I knew the number was creeping up years ago. But I thought the rulebook had gotten that habit under some control already.
I'm surprised the teams can still find so many ways to weld a car together, given how tight the rulebook is now.
Either way I'm not sure how anything is enforceable. If they cannot write the rulebook tight enough to prevent a dozen variations of the hand-built cars, then I don't know how a spec chassis is going to do it either.
Just give each team 3 cars! :D
watching the race yesterday with my mother trying to explain all the BS rules and the playoffs she said,
"well that's just stupid, the champion ought to be who wins the most races in a season, if you win a race you get a point, if not, you get nothing, the driver with the most points at the end of the season wins."
I like it
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 25, 2019, 07:59:34 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on October 25, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
Full electric racing?? Big deal!
I grew up with slot cars! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Yep.
My Aurora set that I still have, and set up when I get the urge...
(https://i.imgur.com/jqChiY3.jpg)
Yes.
My first set was from Eldon....big scale.
Then Aurora ....was it called Model Motoring then?
Then it became Aurora A/FX I believe.
I think I still have a bunch of track somewhere.....
I still love slot cars.
[/quote]My first set was also Eldon around '63.
My dad had many skills... setting something up that required some assembly that involved electricity... not so much. :icon_smile_big:
Yes indeed, it was Model Motoring. Those first cars were horrible handling little beast.
I got my first set in '66. I've since replaced all of the early stuff with the A/FX / G-Force parts.
My collection has grown to an impressive amount of track and cars since I first started.
I've even built my own transformers to handle the load of the larger tracks.
As soon as I get my '70 Charger out of my second garage for the hanging of the big metal, I'm setting up the track for a few weeks.
Serious racing will ensue! (https://i.imgur.com/RVhkGwY.gif)
Roger Penske is going to have a new playground:
https://www.jayski.com/2019/11/04/indianapolis-motor-speedway-sold-to-penske-corporation/
that's a little confusing considering he turned down buying into the Carolina panthers because he said he would to old to see the appreciation of his investment
3 Toyotas in the finale? :shruggy:
RIGGED!!! :o :o :o
Quote from: odcics2 on November 10, 2019, 09:37:09 PM
3 Toyotas in the finale? :shruggy:
RIGGED!!! :o :o :o
And owned by the same team
they're def doing something different from everybody else, but rigged? no, if nascar was rigging stuff Dale Jr would have won a lot more races and been a champion.
rigged is the whole stupid playoff stuff, rigged for stupidity like this, rigged where a guy can miss multiple races and still win a championship.
if nascar was rigging stuff they would figure out a way to put people in the stands.
at least Lagono isn't in the running.....I kinda hope Hamlin wins....
Bryan
Quote from: A383Wing on November 11, 2019, 05:34:48 PM
at least Lagono isn't in the running.....I kinda hope Hamlin wins....
Bryan
I'm all for logano being out
I'm sorry Logano is out. I am a Penske fan. The man has class and is a racer. Also he was the last owner that won the championship in a Mopar. Would I prefer Brad K or Blaney instead of Logano - yes.
Three Gibbs cars out of 4. Snore.
KB - Need I say more?
Truex - I still like him but still remember how he cried last year. Lost a lot of cred with me.
Hamlin - A total knob.
I'd pull for truex if he had dumped logano last year like he promised
I'm also a Penske fan and was kinda hoping Blaney would have gotten in. That would have been a nice upset. However, got to show respect to Gibbs for getting 3 cars in the final 4. Personally, I think they should have pit Bell in the 20, but will have to wait for the stars to align for that to happen.
What are the chances of Dodge ever returning to NASCAR? & If the Challenger, Camaro and Mustang all looked more like the street version it would be way more interesting.
Also they need a 2 mile figure 8 track. I drew up a design for it once.
Quote from: 73chgrSE on November 12, 2019, 10:51:58 AM
Also they need a 2 mile figure 8 track. I drew up a design for it once.
Was it shaped like an 8?
Yes. Straight aways were roughly 3/4 mile long. Over pass/ under pass in the center with the elevation inclines and declines in the turns. They would need to set up the cars to turn right as well as left.
I'd like to see the Coca-Cola track built from the NASCAR video game from 2003
it was like 3 miles long, grossly high banked corners.
this is not me, but this is what it looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgr1ZR3ZLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgr1ZR3ZLA)
either that or a completely round circle 3/4 of a mile long, no straightaways and high banked
Quote from: 73chgrSE on November 12, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
Yes. Straight aways were roughly 3/4 mile long. Over pass/ under pass in the center with the elevation inclines and declines in the turns. They would need to set up the cars to turn right as well as left.
Over/underpass in the center? That's not real figure 8 racing! Let em crash!
https://youtu.be/6ZZyP7VlZcM
That's a little too real for the nascar guys. :rofl: Fun too watch though.
QuoteI'd like to see the Coca-Cola track built from the NASCAR video game from 2003
it was like 3 miles long, grossly high banked corners.
this is not me, but this is what it looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgr1ZR3ZLA
IMO they should be going the other direction.
The cars are already going as fast as NASCAR is gonna let them go. If a bigger new track allowed more speed then NASCAR would just plate them back down again.
I'm not sure how much faster this kind of track at that size would be. My intent was just to get them to turn right on a superspeedway. They should not slow down though, they'll lose the audience. They need to get back to the days when the race cars looked more like the actual models. Win on Sunday sell on Monday.
Let the drivers be drivers again. We all remember the fight in turn 3 at Daytona and the beating and banging before it. There's more to racing then cars going around the track.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on November 12, 2019, 09:20:18 AM
I'm sorry Logano is out. I am a Penske fan. The man has class and is a racer. Also he was the last owner that won the championship in a Mopar. Would I prefer Brad K or Blaney instead of Logano - yes.
Three Gibbs cars out of 4. Snore.
KB - Need I say more?
Truex - I still like him but still remember how he cried last year. Lost a lot of cred with me.
Hamlin - A total knob.
agreed Hamlins a total ass in person
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 12, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
QuoteI'd like to see the Coca-Cola track built from the NASCAR video game from 2003
it was like 3 miles long, grossly high banked corners.
this is not me, but this is what it looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgr1ZR3ZLA
IMO they should be going the other direction.
The cars are already going as fast as NASCAR is gonna let them go. If a bigger new track allowed more speed then NASCAR would just plate them back down again.
yes, the cars are going as fast as the can while maintaining spectator safety (like cars not coming over the fence)
if the track safety was designed correctly the Coca-Cola track could exist. 200 to 230 aint that big a jump
2-3 NASCARs get tangled up at 200 mph, air gets underneath and they start lifting off . . . that's basically the force of a small airplane crashing into the fence.
As crashes get faster the energy ramps up by the square. 2 times the speed = 4 times the energy.
Doing the math, 230 mph is about 133% as much kinetic energy as 200. That's a big increase in danger for only a small difference in the entertainment value.
Your maths is off....a twofold increase in speed, the kinetic energy will increase by a "factor" of four. So in your example of going from 200 to 230 mpg the kinetic energy would INCREASE by around 155% so that car at 230mph would carry about 255% percent of the kinetic energy the same car would at 200mph. This also partially explains why it takes why it takes so much more energy (and horsepower) to get a car from 200 to 230 than it does to get if from 170 to 200....energy that it carries with it.
QuoteYour maths is off....a twofold increase in speed, the kinetic energy will increase by a "factor" of four. So in your example of going from 200 to 230 mpg the kinetic energy would INCREASE by around 155% so that car at 230mph would carry about 255% percent of the kinetic energy the same car would at 200mph. This also partially explains why it takes why it takes so much more energy (and horsepower) to get a car from 200 to 230 than it does to get if from 170 to 200....energy that it carries with it.
Knock it down a decimal place and look at it again. Going 23 mph is not 2.5x the crash energy of going 20 mph. KE ramps up faster than the velocity but not that fast.
Ok...I'll admit I'm no expert so in looked up the formula on a few sites and filled in the numbers...and within a few percent they came to much the same. Happy to be proved wrong though. Obviousy the results will be very different at 23 mpg...the figures go up virtually exponentially as the speeds get higher.
Here's a basic calculator for kinetic energy. Type in 3700 lbs and the speeds. The 230 mph result is about 132% of the result for 200 mph.
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/kinetic.php
I thought there was a bunch of know-it-alls on this site... just didn't know y'all actually knew it all
Since you guys know everything, how fast did Bill Elliott go at Talladega before they put plates on?
212 ??
But remember, plates were first used in August, 1970 at MIS for the first time.
I know. I was there.
yep, he did 212, no side skirts, no front splitter.
the cars today have a lot less air under them than when he hit 212, 230 could easily been done on a track designed to keep the fans safe
Elliot's stupid-fast cars in the 1980s looked visibly too narrow. They were legal because the inspectors were way behind the ball.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 14, 2019, 03:42:11 PM
Elliot's stupid-fast cars in the 1980s looked visibly too narrow. They were legal because the inspectors were way behind the ball.
Huh...now that you mention it...I went looking on YouTube and it does seem that way.
Tim Richmond: Hold my beer.
Tim Richmond was quite a force back then. You wonder what he might have done if he'd lived longer.
QuoteHuh...now that you mention it...I went looking on YouTube and it does seem that way.
Yeah. I think they may have been short too (height missing from the lower half of the body). But the cars were definitely narrowed at the nose and maybe narrowed entirely.
Whatever it was, NASCAR wasn't letting him get away with it on purpose. They inspected the hell out of his cars constantly.
In fact Elliot has said that was what finally slowed him down. The constant scrutiny. It's a lot of labor to tear down & rebuild the whole car and eventually the team got burned out.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 14, 2019, 04:49:55 PMYou wonder what he might have done if he'd lived longer.
Lots of chicks and lots of coke. :2thumbs:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-cole-custer-replace-daniel-185725478.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-cole-custer-replace-daniel-185725478.html)
no loss
Cole's got talent but it sure doesn't hurt when your dad is the president of Stewart-Haas and COO of the haas f1 team.
Quote from: Dano 1 on November 15, 2019, 02:05:52 PM
Cole's got talent but it sure doesn't hurt when your dad is the president of Stewart-Haas and COO of the haas f1 team.
Ding! Ding!
The #41 is Gene Haas' pet car. He can fund it with his walking around money when he chooses to.
It remains to be seen how Custer will do at the top level. It's a big jump.
Suarez said SHR gave him a number for funding he had to bring to keep the ride. He said most of it was in place, but a small portion wouldn't meet the deadline. So they let him go. That puts Suarez in a pretty tough spot. Not the first time SHR has been pretty cut throat at the end of the season.
Quote from: Ponch ® on November 14, 2019, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 14, 2019, 03:42:11 PM
Elliot's stupid-fast cars in the 1980s looked visibly too narrow. They were legal because the inspectors were way behind the ball.
Huh...now that you mention it...I went looking on YouTube and it does seem that way.
There was no rule on minimum width, just maximum. Bills guys found a grey area and exploited it.
The car at the Ford Museum looks 7/8ths. scale.
QuoteThere was no rule on minimum width, just maximum. Bills guys found a grey area and exploited it.
The car at the Ford Museum looks 7/8ths. scale.
Didn't they have the chassis legislated enough to pin down the basics by then, like framerail placement & track width? I would assume Elliot's guys had to shrink the body down around the existing rollcage & tires.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 15, 2019, 08:51:05 PM
QuoteThere was no rule on minimum width, just maximum. Bills guys found a grey area and exploited it.
The car at the Ford Museum looks 7/8ths. scale.
Didn't they have the chassis legislated enough to pin down the basics by then, like framerail placement & track width? I would assume Elliot's guys had to shrink the body down around the existing rollcage & tires.
Nope. Bills boys did what they needed to!! It would be cool to actually measure the cage, distances between rails, length of control arms, etc. and compare to another vintage T Bird race car. They had no cage rules, just generic guidelines.
I thought Smokey Yunick had done enough monkey business with frames & suspension arms back in 1960s to force some baseline measurements of it all. IIRC he tried offsetting things laterally for cornering gains. Elliott's crew was building T-birds fully 20 years later.
LAST RACE TODAY??? this YEAR is over??? :RantExplode: :P :'( :'( :'( :icon_smile_question: :icon_smile_question: :eek2:
Good to see the regular points champ win the big cup, even if it is KB.
Quote from: JB400 on November 17, 2019, 06:22:32 PM
Good to see the regular points champ win the big cup, even if it is KB.
it was a decent race....any one of them could have taken the cup, even Hamlin had a shot at the end
Bryan
and they wonder why fans are leaving... :brickwall:
Bad thing about the race was it looked rigged. Only the final four led laps and got coverage today.
if it was rigged, there would have been the traditional "debris caution" to tighten up the front
7-time NASCAR champ Jimmie Johnson to retire after 2020 season :2thumbs: :yesnod: :ricky: :woohoo: :boogie:
https://sports.yahoo.com/7-time-nascar-champ-jimmie-johnson-to-retire-after-2020-season-175642892.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/7-time-nascar-champ-jimmie-johnson-to-retire-after-2020-season-175642892.html?src=rss)
Lost his crew chief, lost his sponsor, losing races, doesn't surprise me.
makes sense. you're a 7 time champ and cant run better than 15th. that would suck enough to not be fun anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bhTqWRh5E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bhTqWRh5E)
I remember the wreck, hadn't really thought about it until I saw this on youtube
Why hang around and tarnish your record like other drivers have done?
Smart move on his part! :yesnod:
Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bhTqWRh5E
I remember the wreck, hadn't really thought about it until I saw this on youtube
Wasn't JJ already on a downturn by the time that wreck happened?
Even so, the video may be onto something. Those kinds of lateral jolts are pretty bad for causing concussions.
Jr. called it quits because of multiple concussions.
With the HANS device, it appears that without the head moving as much, the brain does.
The sudden changes in direction have to be "dissipated".
Yep. They fixed the neck-breaking deaths with the HANS & the big padded wings on the seat to hold the helmet in place. Now concussions are the next weakest link in the body's chain.
It's gonna be harder to fix this one. The only option is to slow down the impact in a bigger sense. There isn't really a fix in the area of the driver's outfit/helmet/seat.
Most of these concussions are still rooted in hard hits against the wall. They still need to pad the wall better, which means more collapsing space on the hard hits. That means either they bite farther into the top lane on the tracks or they move back the concrete entirely.
I remember Smokey Yunick bringing up the wall problem back in the 1990s. He called for softening the walls. NASCAR didn't act until that rash of neck-break deaths in 2001.
Sounds like bumper cars will be the way to go!
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 23, 2019, 12:35:46 AM
Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bhTqWRh5E
I remember the wreck, hadn't really thought about it until I saw this on youtube
Wasn't JJ already on a downturn by the time that wreck happened?
Even so, the video may be onto something. Those kinds of lateral jolts are pretty bad for causing concussions.
he had already won 3 races that season right before this wreck, hasn't won since
Quote from: odcics2 on November 23, 2019, 01:59:39 PM
Sounds like bumper cars will be the way to go!
in a few yrs THEY WILL BE DRIVING ELECTRIC BANDALARO CARS ??? Now used by 8 to 12 year olds?HAHAHA
Quote from: odcics2 on November 22, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
Why hang around and tarnish your record like other drivers have done?
Smart move on his part! :yesnod:
this.
I started watching in the late 90's. Darrell Waltrip was just some guy that ran 37th and finished 6 laps down every week. I had no idea the guy was a legend.
QuoteI started watching in the late 90's. Darrell Waltrip was just some guy that ran 37th and finished 6 laps down every week. I had no idea the guy was a legend.
Richard Petty really did that. He could have retired in the early 1980s and it would have been considered a full-length career. But he stayed until almost 1993.
Going by the career paths of many modern drivers, Petty might have retired as early as the mid-1970s. He was around 40 years old and his driving was on the downslope by then.
But the 1970s was a fun time to be at the top of the sport. Popularity meant resources which meant a faster car. The gap between the 'have' and the 'have-not' teams was pretty wide at that time. Petty's career was definitely elevated & prolonged by better equipment.
Quotehe had already won 3 races that season right before this wreck, hasn't won since
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Maybe Petty should have retired after winning number 200?
QuoteMaybe Petty should have retired after winning number 200?
Yeah. That was, what, 1983 or '84?
IIRC even that one was an anomaly. The president was attending the race and an aging superstar driver suddenly did better than usual & scored a big career benchmark. Hmm. It would have been right out of NASCAR's standard playbook to slip him a bigger restrictor plate or play loose with the templates just for that race.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 25, 2019, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteMaybe Petty should have retired after winning number 200?
Yeah. That was, what, 1983 or '84?
IIRC even that one was an anomaly. The president was attending the race and an aging superstar driver suddenly did better than usual & scored a big career benchmark. Hmm. It would have been right out of NASCAR's standard playbook to slip him a bigger restrictor plate or play loose with the templates just for that race.
Yeah, Petty was winding down a few years before the July 4th win in 1984.
IIRC, no plates on small blocks until Elliot was blowing it up later in the decade!
QuoteYeah, Petty was winding down a few years before the July 4th win in 1984.
IIRC, no plates on small blocks until Elliot was blowing it up later in the decade!
Oops. Brian fart. They didn't run plates anywhere in 1984.
Petty already had declining numbers in the later 1970s. His famous 1979 D500 win (during Cale's title bout with the Allisons) came amidst a serious losing streak.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 25, 2019, 10:43:57 PM
QuoteYeah, Petty was winding down a few years before the July 4th win in 1984.
IIRC, no plates on small blocks until Elliot was blowing it up later in the decade!
Oops. Brian fart. They didn't run plates anywhere in 1984.
Petty already had declining numbers in the later 1970s. His famous 1979 D500 win (during Cale's title bout with the Allisons) came amidst a serious losing streak.
Yeah, I was there for that. Sitting near turn 2. The cars look like they are stuck on a wall when they come by.
Saw Cale and Donnie zoom by, lots or smoke into 3. Heard radios telling what was going on!
Saw Richard cruise by with Waltrip behind. Good Times! :coolgleamA:
That's something to remember. I wish I coulda seen that in person.
NASCAR may add street racing in 2021
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/nascar-street-racing-2021?fbclid=IwAR3T2maXnGE-C2TF-zBDOiovmsw6JgUja_Zb6p5H7xNazjK53wT_-zgCVtI (https://www.foxnews.com/auto/nascar-street-racing-2021?fbclid=IwAR3T2maXnGE-C2TF-zBDOiovmsw6JgUja_Zb6p5H7xNazjK53wT_-zgCVtI)
"The racing series is considering adding temporary tracks in city centers or sports stadium parking lots to the season as soon as 2021, Sports Business Journal reports.
Along with its signature oval tracks, NASCAR currently competes on two road courses (Sonoma Raceway and Watkins Glen International) and a so-called "roval" set up in the infield of Charlotte Motor Speedway. Sources tell SBJ that NASCAR is aiming to add 8 new markets by 2022, which would likely require the elimination of several current events."
it's just like WWE, the fans speak and they do the opposite
Well, here is a look at the "Next Gen" car. Looks like road racing type wheels, but the rest doesn't look to bad.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phoenix-test-offers-closer-look-132503532.html?src=rss (https://sports.yahoo.com/phoenix-test-offers-closer-look-132503532.html?src=rss)
SRT wheels !! :yesnod:
The cambered rear wheel in this pic makes me wonder if the IRS rearend rumors are true. AFAIK they still haven't given an official answer about that.
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/dWFh1zo5vvWVlLB4tgXOVA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/autosport_578/4ab1739d63db55854170c6c0f1df49dd)
I'll have to wait until they put the manufacturers' noses on. That one is just a generic body.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on December 10, 2019, 10:36:37 PM
The cambered rear wheel in this pic makes me wonder if the IRS rearend rumors are true. AFAIK they still haven't given an official answer about that.
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/dWFh1zo5vvWVlLB4tgXOVA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/autosport_578/4ab1739d63db55854170c6c0f1df49dd)
It was discussed on local radio here prior to the car being announced that the car would have a transaxle and IRS. Being that Dallara is building the cars, I certainly can't see them doing a live axle . The new car seems like it is going to be "IMSA lite".
Interesting looking car. Reminds me of Carbon Fiber Lightning McQueen from the Cars video game.
What's up with the alloy wheels?
They're stepping up to 18 inch wheels to make the cars look more like what's on the street
Quote from: JB400 on December 10, 2019, 11:31:55 PM
I’ll have to wait until they put the manufacturers’ noses on. That one is just a generic body.
SOUNDS like 1 nose Fits All ??? 1frame an 1 body an teams put different stickers and paint an calls it a Toyota or Honda ???
Nascar is going to let the manufacturers design certain parts of the car within parameters. I say this nose is to test those parameters.
OEM cars are all very aerodynamic from the factory now.
The OEMs go many years between restylings now.
With NASCAR's switch over to composite racing bodies, it won't be such a PITA to build & repair intricate body lines on the racers.
If this set of circumstances had existed in the 1980s/90s, NASCAR would never have moved away from stock-looking car bodies.
But I don't expect them to go back to stock bodies any time soon. That would make too much sense. And it's not the path of absolute least resistance for the league.
I have also heard and read that the new cars have a good chance, but still not certain, of having the single lug nut like Indy cars. I forget the exact name used right now.
QuoteThey're stepping up to 18 inch wheels to make the cars look more like what's on the street
I thought the whole reason for a steel wheel is that steel typically bends under contact while alloy is more likely to break. 2021 will be interesting.
Quote from: RallyeMike on December 14, 2019, 12:39:02 AM
QuoteThey're stepping up to 18 inch wheels to make the cars look more like what's on the street
I thought the whole reason for a steel wheel is that steel typically bends under contact while alloy is more likely to break. 2021 will be interesting.
So much for "Rubbins Racin." Now it'll be "Rubbins Wrecking!" Hmm, could draw a few more fans that like wrecks.
Tell Nascar the word on the street is 22". Again, behind the times...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlNoAsoRN8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlNoAsoRN8)
BOOM
Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlNoAsoRN8
BOOM
Thanks - I enjoyed that throw back.
Darell was partly right, however, grass-roots loss is way bigger than just Nascar business decisions. Outlaw short tracks have dried up and disappeared because new generations have been absorbed into e-reality. When we raced hobby stocks 1989-1998 there were 100 registered cars in class. The tracks we raced at are now gone, and the local track to me now might have 4-5 cars per night, and they don't even run every Saturday. It's not because you can't buy a cheap pile and race it on a short track. The e-generations don't want to get dirty, hot, cold, or be separated from screen time. This is the most significant grass-roots loss :rotz:
QuoteDarell was partly right, however, grass-roots loss is way bigger than just Nascar business decisions. Outlaw short tracks have dried up and disappeared because new generations have been absorbed into e-reality. When we raced hobby stocks 1989-1998 there were 100 registered cars in class. The tracks we raced at are now gone, and the local track to me now might have 4-5 cars per night, and they don't even run every Saturday. It's not because you can't buy a cheap pile and race it on a short track. The e-generations don't want to get dirty, hot, cold, or be separated from screen time. This is the most significant grass-roots loss rotz
Meh.
Racing has always been a money-losing operation for most of the people doing it. The ones who aren't losing money are still usually working too hard just to financially tread water. That's the same thing as losing money if you value your time.
In 2019 non-wealthy America just doesn't have any money to spare. It's been a downward slide for the last 40 years in the big picture. Combine that, with the fact that car ownership/driving in general is no longer much fun for kids . . . bad combination for the future of racing.
I think leaving places like rockingham and north Wilkesboro has had more of an effect than anybody gives it credit for. Leaving the roots of racing to chase the $$ paid off for the short term. Sure they went and found places to host big races and draw a lot of people. but where are those people now. They all came to see a few races, and checked it off their list. now that nascar has been changing every thing trying to get people in the stands, they lost the diehard people that never missed a race. we've been to our share of races, and we never EVER missed one on tv. now I don't care if I see a race. if I see one fine, if I don't fine. until nascar goes back to rewarding the driver that is shows up and does well week in and week out, I don't care what they do. They had a chance to hang on and catch a second wind, and then the chase happened. there's no draw to hang in there weekly when you have the possibility of having a "Champion" that didn't race 1/3 of the season. now you could win 10 races in the season, one in every elimination round and come in 2nd in the final race and somebody else is the "champion" give me a break that's stupid and everybody knows it, that's why they don't watch anyone. that's why you can get a ticket to the next Bristol race without having to wait 2 or 3 years. that's why they're pulling and have pulled thousands of seats out of tracks.
:flame: :brickwall: :soapbox: :soapbox: :violin: :flush: :flush: :flush: :flush: :flush: :fireangry: :fireangry:
Hall of Famer Junior Johnson dies at 88 :'( :'(
https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2019/12/20/nascar-hall-of-famer-junior-johnson-dies-at-88/ (https://nascar.nbcsports.com/2019/12/20/nascar-hall-of-famer-junior-johnson-dies-at-88/)
Sad day... R.I.P. Jr. Johnson
As far as the new car is concerned they have awarded the contract to produce the chassis to a company in Michigan called Technic. They currently supply the center section roll cage components and are gearing up for production. The transmission is located at the rear of the car and it is has independent rear suspension. Front and rear clips are to be a bolt on affair. It has a full belly pan. Aluminum wheels. Wider tires. What you see in the picture is the Nascar generic base car. The manufacturers are developing there own body panels from the greenhouse down so they will have common roofs , windshields back glass, A,B,and C pillars as well as common deck lids and body under pans. The manufacturers bodies must conform to a small aerodynamic box dictated by the generic body. They have talked about the desire to faze in hybrid and also stand alone electric motors ( we will see) All pieces of the car must be purchased from Nascar approved vendors. There will be no components built by the team shops. Here at Hendricks that means an end to our Carbon Components, Suspension components, body and chassis fabrication, our C and C operation ect. You get the picture. Lot's of people going home for good once this car is in place. While it is being sold as a cost cutting measure it is more a wealth consolidation program from where I stand. Lots of unhappy folks going to have to learn to code.
Quote from: Stevearino on December 22, 2019, 06:37:19 PM
As far as the new car is concerned they have awarded the contract to produce the chassis to a company in Michigan called Technic. They currently supply the center section roll cage components and are gearing up for production. The transmission is located at the rear of the car and it is has independent rear suspension. Front and rear clips are to be a bolt on affair. It has a full belly pan. Aluminum wheels. Wider tires. What you see in the picture is the Nascar generic base car. The manufacturers are developing there own body panels from the greenhouse down so they will have common roofs , windshields back glass, A,B,and C pillars as well as common deck lids and body under pans. The manufacturers bodies must conform to a small aerodynamic box dictated by the generic body. They have talked about the desire to faze in hybrid and also stand alone electric motors ( we will see) All pieces of the car must be purchased from Nascar approved vendors. There will be no components built by the team shops. Here at Hendricks that means an end to our Carbon Components, Suspension components, body and chassis fabrication, our C and C operation ect. You get the picture. Lot's of people going home for good once this car is in place. While it is being sold as a cost cutting measure it is more a wealth consolidation program from where I stand. Lots of unhappy folks going to have to learn to code.
:'( :rotz:
Sounds like Nascar just bought the C7 Corvette, slapped it's own body on it, and is making an IROC car out of it.
How fast do you think the presidential limo went around the track?
I bet it set a track record.
Quote from: Stevearino on December 22, 2019, 06:37:19 PM
As far as the new car is concerned they have awarded the contract to produce the chassis to a company in Michigan called Technic. They currently supply the center section roll cage components and are gearing up for production. The transmission is located at the rear of the car and it is has independent rear suspension. Front and rear clips are to be a bolt on affair. It has a full belly pan. Aluminum wheels. Wider tires. What you see in the picture is the Nascar generic base car. The manufacturers are developing there own body panels from the greenhouse down so they will have common roofs , windshields back glass, A,B,and C pillars as well as common deck lids and body under pans. The manufacturers bodies must conform to a small aerodynamic box dictated by the generic body. They have talked about the desire to faze in hybrid and also stand alone electric motors ( we will see) All pieces of the car must be purchased from Nascar approved vendors. There will be no components built by the team shops. Here at Hendricks that means an end to our Carbon Components, Suspension components, body and chassis fabrication, our C and C operation ect. You get the picture. Lot's of people going home for good once this car is in place. While it is being sold as a cost cutting measure it is more a wealth consolidation program from where I stand. Lots of unhappy folks going to have to learn to code.
Quote from: chargerperson on February 16, 2020, 04:30:53 PM
How fast do you think the presidential limo went around the track?
It was the perfect lap.
:D
QuoteAs far as the new car is concerned they have awarded the contract to produce the chassis to a company in Michigan called Technic. They currently supply the center section roll cage components and are gearing up for production. The transmission is located at the rear of the car and it is has independent rear suspension. Front and rear clips are to be a bolt on affair. It has a full belly pan. Aluminum wheels. Wider tires. What you see in the picture is the Nascar generic base car. The manufacturers are developing there own body panels from the greenhouse down so they will have common roofs , windshields back glass, A,B,and C pillars as well as common deck lids and body under pans. The manufacturers bodies must conform to a small aerodynamic box dictated by the generic body. They have talked about the desire to faze in hybrid and also stand alone electric motors ( we will see) All pieces of the car must be purchased from Nascar approved vendors. There will be no components built by the team shops. Here at Hendricks that means an end to our Carbon Components, Suspension components, body and chassis fabrication, our C and C operation ect. You get the picture. Lot's of people going home for good once this car is in place. While it is being sold as a cost cutting measure it is more a wealth consolidation program from where I stand. Lots of unhappy folks going to have to learn to code.
I guess select source sealed engines will be next. Then the conversion to the National Association of Giant Dwarf Car Racing will be complete.
Update on Ryan Newman: a doc says his condition is "serious but not life-threatening." Keep the fingers crossed.
That was a damn scary wreck. Hit the wall hard & spun around, then get overturned & T-boned in the driver's window (!), and end up with the window opening against the pavement and the car on fire. Back in the muscle era that might have killed him 2-3 times over.
He's very blessed to still be alive. That was a very hard lick. Hopefully, the next gen car will take this accident into account.
Back when Ryan Newman drove a Dodge he was on the pole about every other week. The Rocket Man! I really hope he makes a full recovery. I remember when he was a rookie driver. Hope he can race again.
Quote from: JB400 on February 18, 2020, 05:55:23 AM
He's very blessed to still be alive. That was a very hard lick. Hopefully, the next gen car will take this accident into account.
not sure how you could build a car to handle hitting the drivers side of the car at 190mph without transferring that energy to the driver
He didn't get hit in the left-side door. He got hit in the left-side window.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 18, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
He didn't get hit in the left-side door. He got hit in the left-side window.
did I say left side door?? NO I said drivers side of the car, how is that that much different than left side window??
It appeared to me the hit was angled across the window opening and roof, which is why it was so scary. There are only a few bars up there compared to the door area.
I'm not sure there is a worse angle too be hit! The facts that he survived is a real testament to the safety focus of the last decade or so... and they will probably learn even more from studying the remains of the #6 car.
As with everyone, hoping he has a speedy and full recovery.
when I said "hitting the drivers side of the car" what I was talking about is that slam up against the wall. if you go back and watch it, more of the nose hit first, but that body slam sideways into the wall is what I don t think they can really do anything to soften the drivers on
Quotedid I say left side door?? NO I said drivers side of the car, how is that that much different than left side window??
You're right, I misread your comment. Sorry.
QuoteIt appeared to me the hit was angled across the window opening and roof, which is why it was so scary. There are only a few bars up there compared to the door area.
I'm not sure there is a worse angle too be hit! The facts that he survived is a real testament to the safety focus of the last decade or so... and they will probably learn even more from studying the remains of the #6 car.
Yeah, he found a perfectly bad way to get hit. There may not be a worse place/angle on the whole car.
There isn't much else to do with wrecks like that, that's the problem. IMO it wouldn't hurt to double-up some of the tubing around that area though. Or just add raw thickness to the existing tubes.
Another update: Newman is awake and talking.
maybe they can add a cushion of air around the entire driver... to go along with that automatic transmission they are kicking around
Iron man Newman walked out of the hospital!!
:2thumbs:
Unreal.
Whew! I'm sure many people are SO relieved.
Ross Chastain to fill in for Newman
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/02/19/ross-chastain-ryan-newman-las-vegas-fill-in-no-6-car/
I am amazed and very happy he is OK! :cheers:
WTF ?????
https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/nascar-center-locking-wheels-nut/4711047/
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Quote from: odcics2 on March 03, 2020, 07:36:42 AM
WTF ?????
https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/nascar-center-locking-wheels-nut/4711047/
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Yup. Just another nail in the coffin for the old fans. I'll stick to my boring steel five on five off.
Quote"One of our main goals with the Next Gen car is to provide a vehicle that better replicates what our OEM partners sell in the showroom – both in looks and relevant technology..... ," said NASCAR Senior Vice President of Racing Innovation John Probst.
I guess I'm out of touch not having bought a new car for awhile. They all come with single lug wheels now? :lol:
I wonder how long this will last. I see a lot of broken wheels in wrecks compared to bent wheels, and teams will be stripping out hubs instead of lugs. Strip a hub, and they're done.
leave it loose and their done too
The end started with restrictor plates. All down hill since then.
First plate race was in August, 1970.
yea, but only on the 7litre engines. All the others were exempt.
Nascars' new gimmick, Busch Clash at Daytona next year on the road coarse:
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/03/04/nascars-season-opening-busch-clash-moving-to-daytona-road-course-in-2021/
I for one, am glad to see some more road course action with stock cars.
Quote from: DownZero on March 04, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
yea, but only on the 7litre engines. All the others were exempt.
There were no other engines used at that time.
Quote from: DownZero on March 04, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
yea, but only on the 7litre engines. All the others were exempt.
They were all 7 litre engines in 1970.
Quote from: RallyeMike on March 04, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
I for one, am glad to see some more road course action with stock cars.
I'm all for more road courses, however the BC is like the prelude of the Daytona 500. Putting it on the road course makes it like a continuation of the 24 hrs of Daytona. They should have a race on Road America
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2020, 07:24:45 AM
Quote from: RallyeMike on March 04, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
I for one, am glad to see some more road course action with stock cars.
I'm all for more road courses, however the BC is like the prelude of the Daytona 500. Putting it on the road course makes it like a continuation of the 24 hrs of Daytona. They deerve a Cup race should have a race on Road America
I have to believe Road America is on the shortest of short lists for tracks not having a Cup date. Road America consistently is among the biggest crowd draws for a stand-alone Xfinity race. They need a date that fits their already packed schedule (might be the biggest problem) and they would have to pony up the sanction fee to NA$CAR.
As to the Clash on the road course, I'm actually all in for it. I will pay to see the full size Cup cars run the road course. It's a non-points and they are using old cars. So all they have to bring back is the steering wheel. They will still be able to have the Big One coming to the flag.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 05, 2020, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2020, 07:24:45 AM
Quote from: RallyeMike on March 04, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
I for one, am glad to see some more road course action with stock cars.
I'm all for more road courses, however the BC is like the prelude of the Daytona 500. Putting it on the road course makes it like a continuation of the 24 hrs of Daytona. They deerve a Cup race should have a race on Road America
I have to believe Road America is on the shortest of short lists for tracks not having a Cup date. Road America consistently is among the biggest crowd draws for a stand-alone Xfinity race. They need a date that fits their already packed schedule (might be the biggest problem) and they would have to pony up the sanction fee to NA$CAR.
As to the Clash on the road course, I'm actually all in for it. I will pay to see the full size Cup cars run the road course. It's a non-points and they are using old cars. So all they have to bring back is the steering wheel. They will still be able to have the Big One coming to the flag.
"the big one" :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
One has to stop and think, there's only going to be 20 cars or less on track. Not everyone can throw a car around the curves. Looks like it's going to be a drawn out field. Not very entertaining to watch. Some of the lesser known teams have good road course guys. The odds of them being in that field are pretty slim. The Daytona road course needs its own date with a full field.
Quote from: JB400 on March 05, 2020, 11:25:21 AM
One has to stop and think, there's only going to be 20 cars or less on track. Not everyone can throw a car around the curves. Looks like it's going to be a drawn out field. Not very entertaining to watch. Some of the lesser known teams have good road course guys. The odds of them being in that field are pretty slim. The Daytona road course needs its own date with a full field.
All the top drivers now are excellent road racers. They have almost a full year to play in the simulators too. There was discussion of the second Daytona race being on the road course in the future. So that could happen.
I don't see how the show could be less craptastic than the six cars running at the finish of the Clash this year. And the winner had been wrecked.
Due to the virus, the next two Nascar races will have no fans.
So, the 3 of you can stay home. :slap:
Quote from: odcics2 on March 12, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
Due to the virus, the next two Nascar races will have no fans.
So, the 3 of you can stay home. :slap:
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nascar-suspends-season-until-may-reschedule-events-230001589--nascar.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nascar-suspends-season-until-may-reschedule-events-230001589--nascar.html)
my prediction is they are done for the year and Jimmy will come back for one more
👍
The latest I read was that all the racing events will be postponed until May
They're doing eNASCAR, in other words, online video games, and broadcasting those.
QuoteThey're doing eNASCAR, in other words, online video games, and broadcasting those.
I randomly caught the one for Texas Speedway on Sunday and decided too watch it. I think they did a great job of it, but it will be only one I watch. Interesting to see once, but any time you watch others playing video games how long can you really stay interested?
:popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Today i saw a nascar classic on fox,it was the 88 500 from Arizona. was good see Pettys and dale sr,an favorite old drivers. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: djcarguy on April 04, 2020, 10:56:47 PM
:popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: Today i saw a nascar classic on fox,it was the 88 500 from Arizona. was good see Pettys and dale sr,an favorite old drivers. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Lots of real racing from the 60-70s on youtube...
Looks like Kyle Larson maybe done:
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/04/13/nascar-suspends-kyle-larson-indefinitely/
I guess he won't be allowed to race this weekend.... :scratchchin:
He's done.' 42 is an empty seat.
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMic2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmVzcG4uY29tL3JhY2luZy9uYXNjYXIvc3RvcnkvXy9pZC8yOTAzNDM3MC9uYXNjYXItc3Rhci1reWxlLWxhcnNvbi1maXJlZC11c2luZy1yYWNpYWwtc2x1ci12aXJ0dWFsLXJhY2XSAYABaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZXNwbi5jb20vcmFjaW5nL25hc2Nhci9zdG9yeS9fL2lkLzI5MDM0MzcwL25hc2Nhci1zdGFyLWt5bGUtbGFyc29uLWZpcmVkLXVzaW5nLXJhY2lhbC1zbHVyLXZpcnR1YWwtcmFjZT9wbGF0Zm9ybT1hbXA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
What a dummy... :icon_smile_blackeye:
Newman is ready to return......
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/04/26/ryan-newman-plans-to-return-to-no-6-ford-when-racing-resumes/
Quote from: JB400 on April 27, 2020, 01:17:13 AM
Newman is ready to return......
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/04/26/ryan-newman-plans-to-return-to-no-6-ford-when-racing-resumes/
to video games. :lol:
Darlington Sunday :boogie:
:2thumbs:
Newman in the 6
Kenseth in the 42
Great to see Newman back!! Kenseth too. Enjoying the race so far. Especially with Hendrick cars struggling!!! JJ out!!! :2thumbs:
Looks like the lads are a tad rusty! Wrecked car on lap one and Jimmy rear ends a guy and wrecks 100 yards before winning the first phase.. :lol:
Harvick wins the Corona 400.
Jimmy for the next two days: :brickwall:
It would have been nice to see him get a win or even a good finish.
Quote from: odcics2 on April 27, 2020, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: JB400 on April 27, 2020, 01:17:13 AM
Newman is ready to return......
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/04/26/ryan-newman-plans-to-return-to-no-6-ford-when-racing-resumes/
to video games. :lol:
This would not be a bad plan. You only get so many get out of jail free cards. Ask Neil Bonnett.
I like this aero idea from F1. Maybe Nascar should do something similar:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.fia-approve-reduced-2021-f1-cost-cap-and-new-sliding-scale-rules-for-aero.7Hkn5yOebeUXnCes3v22L.html
Banning the Confederate flag I just don't know
I think it's someones first amendment right if they want to hang it or not on their RV.
I have a General Lee golf cart up camp with the Confederate flag on the front I can't wait to see this weekend when I drive it around what kind of reaction I'm going to get
Quote from: billssuperbird on June 11, 2020, 02:00:44 PM
I have a General Lee golf cart up camp with the Confederate flag on the front I can't wait to see this weekend when I drive it around what kind of reaction I'm going to get
So is a time coming where the Confederate flag will be illegal to display at all because some consider it associated with hate? Then all the General Lees....
As a former stockcar driver my desire to follow nascar has been fading with their poor choices over the past few years.
But now it is not about the cars, drivers and the tracks its political correctness and that puts the nail in the coffin for me.
The days of stopping everything on a nice sunny day to watch a nascar race are over.
Race cars and racing is still the same with or without a rebel flag flying.
I do wonder what they tell the attendees at the gate who have it tattooed on their arm, chest, shoulder, leg, forehead, etc. No admittance :shruggy:
If NASCAR wants to ban rebel flags, that's their right. Just like the NFL has the right to ban players from kneeling during the anthem. Freedom of speech laws don't apply. These are corporate events on private property.
NASCAR is not in the politics business. If there was a politically-neutral way to handle the flag then I'm sure they would take it. But there isn't one anymore. NASCAR has to make a choice and they won't go against the mainstream & younger crowd. The sport needs a future. They are in deep financial trouble and their fan base is pretty old. Sacrificing a 15yo fan to please a 65yo fan is not good business.
The thing is 65 year old fans have the money to spend, not the 15 year olds.
QuoteThe thing is 65 year old fans have the money to spend, not the 15 year olds.
True.
But rebuilding a younger fan base is not a 6-month process. It takes years to do it. The investment pays off for decades after that.
I love seeing the comments in NASCAR's social media accounts:
"You went political, I'm out"
"Shut up and drive, no politics!"
"But my first amendment right!"
My favorite one was one that I wont repost here, let's just say it integrated a racial slur into the word "NASCAR" and suggested that's how it should be known from now on.
NASCAR has been about as political as it gets since it's inception. It just happened that the politics were the kind that its fans were ok with so no one complained bc either they didn't care or simply didn't see it. The military worship, having Presidents as guests, allowing campaigns to sponsor cars, etc.
Mike DC, as usual, is on point. NASCAR needs a bigger fanbase and the $ that comes with it. As we have seen, people are not willing to be ok w a corporations questionable stands on certain issues. Unless Cracker Barrel or Joe's Brake and Transmission Emporium is willing to spend the 8 or 9 figures it takes to sponsor a team/series, they need to do whatever they need to do to keep the coca colas and McDonald's and Targets happy. They may be losing a few die hard old timers, but this latest move is garnering a lot of good publicity that offsets those lost fans.
We can - and God knows we have, to no end - get into a debate about what the flag means, but ultimately this was a business decision by NASCAR.
This thread reminded me about something that I laughed off as just talk and had forgotten about. Over 30 years ago I was part of a conversation in the pits at an Indy car race. The topic was the fan base of Indy staying the same and Winston Cup rising. And one gentlemen said its all about Timexes and Rolexes. Everyone laughed (all were Indy guys) but I didn't get it so I asked him to explain. He said the watches they wear. He said Indy and for that matter Formula racing overall is marketed is to an specific crowd "the Rolex's" which is a far smaller group than the "Timexes" which is the stock car fan base. He said Winston Cup Racing will grow until they abandon the Timex's for the Rolex's. At the time I took it to be just about the income level but thinking back I think he was just being nice to a young stockcar guy. I believe his real meaning was what he thought of the stereotypical stock car fan. NASCAR has been trying to distance itself from the "stereotypical stock car fans for years now and are looking past the Timexes to the gain the approval of the Rolexes. Remembering that conversation behind the Foyt team trailer so long ago clears up any question I had about what NASCAR'S intent is. What do you all think? Is NASCAR looking to unload Timex fans like me for a new Rolex?
QuoteNASCAR has been about as political as it gets since it's inception. It just happened that the politics were the kind that its fans were ok with so no one complained bc either they didn't care or simply didn't see it. The military worship, having Presidents as guests, allowing campaigns to sponsor cars, etc.
Mike DC, as usual, is on point. NASCAR needs a bigger fanbase and the $ that comes with it. As we have seen, people are not willing to be ok w a corporations questionable stands on certain issues. Unless Cracker Barrel or Joe's Brake and Transmission Emporium is willing to spend the 8 or 9 figures it takes to sponsor a team/series, they need to do whatever they need to do to keep the coca colas and McDonald's and Targets happy. They may be losing a few die hard old timers, but this latest move is garnering a lot of good publicity that offsets those lost fans.
We can - and God knows we have, to no end - get into a debate about what the flag means, but ultimately this was a business decision by NASCAR.
Pretty much (and thanks for the compliment). The sport is on the ropes. Big winning teams are struggling to make it. Appeasing fans who like a controversial symbol is a luxury that they don't think they can afford anymore.
QuoteThis thread reminded me about something that I laughed off as just talk and had forgotten about. Over 30 years ago I was part of a conversation in the pits at an Indy car race. The topic was the fan base of Indy staying the same and Winston Cup rising. And one gentlemen said its all about Timexes and Rolexes. Everyone laughed (all were Indy guys) but I didn't get it so I asked him to explain. He said the watches they wear. He said Indy and for that matter Formula racing overall is marketed is to an specific crowd "the Rolex's" which is a far smaller group than the "Timexes" which is the stock car fan base. He said Winston Cup Racing will grow until they abandon the Timex's for the Rolex's. At the time I took it to be just about the income level but thinking back I think he was just being nice to a young stockcar guy. I believe his real meaning was what he thought of the stereotypical stock car fan. NASCAR has been trying to distance itself from the "stereotypical stock car fans for years now and are looking past the Timexes to the gain the approval of the Rolexes. Remembering that conversation behind the Foyt team trailer so long ago clears up any question I had about what NASCAR'S intent is. What do you all think? Is NASCAR looking to unload Timex fans like me for a new Rolex?
The next generation of
Timex-wearers do not like the flag as much as previous generations did. That's what is different now.
If the flag's mainstream image had been as problematic a generation ago as it is now, NASCAR would probably have banned it back then. NASCAR follows the money. Always has. Bill France didn't name it "Grand National" to sound like a down-home rural Southern series. He was always looking for mainstream acceptance.
I think with this coronavirus, it has proven that NASCAR is willing to run without the fans support. It's all about pleasing corporate money. What you want, and what I want, means nothing to NASCAR
QuoteI think with this coronavirus, it has proven that NASCAR is willing to run without the fans support. It's all about pleasing corporate money. What you want, and what I want, means nothing to NASCAR
NASCAR wouldn't be financially viable without selling tons of tickets to each race. The virus changes are temporary.
The top teams are struggling to keep sponsored. The league's long-term TV contract ends in a couple more years and they doubt next one will be as good. The recent changes are not signs of indifference, they are signs of desperation.
NASCAR is in a tough spot with a traditional fan base that absolutely hates any type of change - be it on/off the track. Just look at the hissy fit some in the Timex crowd threw when the single hub wheel was revealed a couple of months ago.
QuoteNASCAR is in a tough spot with a traditional fan base that absolutely hates any type of change - be it on/off the track. Just look at the hissy fit some in the Timex crowd threw when the single hub wheel was revealed a couple of months ago.
I agree with the older fans about that.
The races are made interesting because of uncertainties like pit stop goof-ups. There is no need to increase pit stops speeds. The 5-lug deal wasn't posing a safety threat. Changing tires is one of the only remaining things in racing that the normal guy can relate to doing with his own cars.
Not a big deal. I just see some minor downsides to the single lug and no real upsides. Why do it? Change for the sake of change?
But then, I would run things so differently if I was in charge . . . . don't even get me started.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 17, 2020, 12:30:53 PM
QuoteNASCAR is in a tough spot with a traditional fan base that absolutely hates any type of change - be it on/off the track. Just look at the hissy fit some in the Timex crowd threw when the single hub wheel was revealed a couple of months ago.
I agree with the older fans about that.
The races are made interesting because of uncertainties like pit stop goof-ups. There is no need to increase pit stops speeds. The 5-lug deal wasn't posing a safety threat. Changing tires is one of the only remaining things in racing that the normal guy can relate to doing with his own cars. I see a downside to the change and no upside.
But then, I would run the league so totally differently if I was in charge . . . . don't even get me started.
The way you phrase your objection is pretty rational though. As opposed to "this is all part of a libtard/communist conspiracy to ruin the sport" which is more or less the argument presented by 87.3%* of the old timers when it comes to these changes.
*Scientifically accurate number 😂
QuoteThe way you phrase your objection is pretty rational though. As opposed to "this is all part of a libtard/communist conspiracy to ruin the sport" which is more or less the argument presented by 87.3%* of the old timers when it comes to these changes.
*Scientifically accurate number 😂
Wait . . . . are you telling me Hillary Clinton
didn't play some role in the switch to single lugs? :confused:
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 17, 2020, 05:39:20 AM
NASCAR wouldn't be financially viable without selling tons of tickets to each race. The virus changes are temporary.
IMO NASCAR's $$ bottom line are not directly related to fans in the seats (a dollar profit from a fan in a seat is a lot of work)
sign a TV contract worth $Ms takes lawyers and a few executives
making $Ms at a venue involves hundreds of contracts, thousands of vendors, 10s of thousands of employees, 100s of thousands of fans (the logistics to allow/make this all happen) all to net less profit than a single multi-year TV contract
If the grandstands are empty then TV viewership will be down too. It's a major indicator for fan enthusiasm in general. This Covid lockdown is a temporary exception.
Nobody in the sports world seems to think NASCAR's next TV contract will be as good as their existing one.
The 2001(?) Fox deal was supposed to be NASCARS big moment. Then the wheels came off (pun intended): DE Sr. died, Gordon started to decline*, over expansion into too many cookie cutter tracks and the COT (again, legitimate complaints about the on track product), Toyota (bc Pearl Harbor!), 7 years of the #48 dominating**, and the 2008 crash made for a bad decade. It has not recovered since.
* You either loved Gordon or hated Gordon. Either way you tuned in or went to the track to see him win or wreck.
** Not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, an impressive feat to watch. Just not good for the entertainment/competition aspect of the sport.
Read today that Jimmie Johnson has COVID-19 along with his wife.
He's missing the Indy race tomorrow.
Hearing that Maurice Petty died.
RIP.
:'(
Sounds like Nascar is going back to its roots with the Truck series pitstops:
https://m.nascar.com/news-media/2020/07/29/nascar-modifies-pit-stop-procedure-for-stand-alone-gander-trucks-race/
I believe this was the original pitstop format
They had basically the same rules for xfinity. You had to be in the pits for 60 seconds. And could be there up to 80 seconds. As long as you didn't break any rules, you retain your spot and no one can advance due to pit stops.
Quote from: nvrbdn on August 09, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
They had basically the same rules for xfinity. You had to be in the pits for 60 seconds. And could be there up to 80 seconds. As long as you didn't break any rules, you retain your spot and no one can advance due to pit stops.
I believe what they ran at Road America, you could change tires or add fuel, but not both at the same time.
That's right!! Plus if you had rain tires on, if you came in for tires you had to put dry tires on. it was confusing to me. If you want gas, you can't have tires. If you want tires you can't have gas. If you change tires, it has to be different tires than what you are using. No gaining spots while in the pits. Next they will have you pit by car colors, and everyone gets a participation trophy. NASCAR has become the most boring thing out there. With all these stages, point systems, "the Chase", every car has to be exactly the same etc..... Every year it goes down hill. The same 4-5 cars are in the top 5 every race. But then you can have a guy that can't get a top 10 if every other car wrecked out, and if by some freaky accident he wins a race, he automatically gets into the chase. Doesn't matter if he was in last place in points. Only winners should be in the chase (according to NASCAR) so with that one lucky happening, someone with tons of points that hasn't won a race gets knocked out of contention. Just stupid. Ok, I am done.
William Byron - first win at Daytona wreckfest.
He really wheeled it threw the middle of the wrecks last night.
Quote from: odcics2 on August 30, 2020, 07:39:21 AM
William Byron - first win at Daytona wreckfest.
Does he gets a free session with Becki Falwell?
Quote from: Aero426 on August 31, 2020, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on August 30, 2020, 07:39:21 AM
William Byron - first win at Daytona wreckfest.
Does he gets a free session with Becki Falwell?
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Looks like Ray Evernham is at it again, this time, starting a new IROC based series called SRX. Bill Elliott, amongst a few others, will be racing.
https://racer.com/2020/10/01/bill-elliott-joins-srx-series-field/
Bowman is in the 48 next year. It'd be nice to see Hendrick bring back the 5 or 25
Jimmie Johnson's ride for next year :drool5:
Congrats Chase :cheers:
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Jimmie Johnson's ride for next year :drool5:
Wonder what the CD is of his new ride?
6 races in, what's everyone's opinion on the new car?
It certainly looks like the playing field has been levelled... at least for now while everyone figures it out. The rear toe bar needs to be beefed up for collision resistance so there can be more door banging without the consequence of bending that thing.
I agree!! A different winner every week. The cars are really equal. The new drivers are running the show. The tires suck. If you spin, you are getting flats. The single lug holding the wheel on is causing some problems. Teams are trying to figure out how to cheat and Nascar says they will be harder on the ones that get caught. The cars seem to take a little more punch before they fail. That being said, I am not a fan of the new wheel/tire combo. I am totally ok with every camp having a shot at the win instead of 2 race teams winning every weekend.
It seems they are having about the same % of lug problems they have with one lug versus five. Previous years we were always hearing about errant lugs and loose wheels too. Thing is though.... shouldn't the problems be 1/5th as frequent? :lol:
Although we are seeing variety in the winner's circle, it seems the same top 15 or so cars/drivers seem to still be be mostly populating the front of the pack. ....And let's hear it for old guys last week :coolgleamA:
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